Halo Shouldn't Keep Relying On Nostalgia
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Am I the only one who doesn't want this? It seems like 343 is going after nostalgia instead of trying to create new stories in the Halo universe. I want new Halo spin-offs, not another remake of a game we've all played to death.
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When we said we wanted Halo to go back to it's roots, this is not what we meant
I imagine it's beneficial to train the new staff at 343i on the identity of Halo via contributing to a Remake. Now that Frank O'Conner is gone, his nonsensical ideas for Halo are no longer pertinent/relevant to literally anyone left making, and/or possibly caring, about Halo. I guarantee you that, if a Remake is genuinely being made, that the people currently making it have VERY little love for what 343i made from 2011-2024.
I completely agree honestly I really don't think that we need another remaster of Halo one, I think we need to move on and we really need to focus on the future up and coming games.
@FootedGhost get a life and just be happy that we the Halo Fans are get more Halo games.
@@bigdaddynero That excuse makes 0 sense as getting new 343i staff to remake Halo 1 as 'beneficial training' will just result in the end product will be worse than the original remake. Why? Because as you said, they know nothing about Halo's identity. There is no 'genuine' in this scenario unless it's being done by the fans like the Halo 3 CE project.
343i don't care much to anything about Halo's identity if you've stuck around the past 13 years and Halo not being xbox exclusive will be the final nail in how Microsoft threw their flagship IP in the garbage can.
Agreed Halo 3 remaster would be so much better:/
Dont know why they dont remake Halo 3
Right?! Halo 3 anniversary would print money for 343 and Microsoft.
Yes they do!!! REMAKE HALO 1 HALO 2 AND HALO 3 AND ASLO REACH IN ***UNREAL ENGINE 5 GOATED 🐐 ##🎉🎉🎉
Oh how ignorant you people are. They won't because 343 knows halo 3 is THE top halo. They won't because they know people would rather play halo 3 than halo infinite. Unlike you bootlickers@@FootedGhost
@@FootedGhostyou bootlickers fail to realize that 343 won't do anything they can't put a micro transaction riddled store like infinite
@@FootedGhostquit your dayjob man. Do fallout things. Halo is absolutely dead. There's a reason you're hearing about fallout right now more than halo OR the garbage halo show. But keep bootlicking
It comes down to remake vs remaster, it’s a RE4 situation.
True that's going to be the interesting thing I guess. Still, I'd rather 343 focus on new stories and spinoffs instead of remaking/remastering Halo CE.
@@FootedGhost yeah
but number company is absolutely NOT the studio to do this.
@@thetower8553 343 is a completely different entity than it was when it made infinite
@@FootedGhostwell clearly 343 isn't very good at making new stories so it doesn't really matter what you think
You’re not the only one, sick of remakes and remasters
If it is real, then I really hope this remake will include cut content. Still gonna be cautious about it.
That would be cool to see, so there's positives and negatives to this imo
@FootedGhost It's just positives. The biggest one being that it'll launch on PlayStation and it'll be on Unreal Engine
@@dwallace8731that doesn’t seem like much of a positive to those who have already experienced this story. An engine update is fine and all for this game but it’s more important for halo’s future projects, that was the whole reason infinite almost drowned. PS players have already voiced they don’t really care about halo enough to go out and purchase it as a large majority. If they want to experience that story, then just port MCC to PS, so that way they can genuinely enjoy chief’s story uninterrupted. It just seems like a lame excuse to double back on what was already so beloved and try to make your own thing of it whether that be from cut content or concept art, and we’ve already seen, when 343 tries to do their own thing with halo, they tend to taint the story and vision their trying to create while hurting the reputation of the masterpiece that was already set with CE. I think halo fans are so starved of content that we see this as a huge plus because we’re finally getting halo content again, just because it’s nostalgic content doesn’t mean it’s going to be a major success, especially when a lot of people are going to say “I already have MCC, why would I buy the same game a third time”. People already did it with Skyrim special edition and GTA. All people want is further development of a greatly written story, whether that’s with the characters we know already, or with new characters showing the impact they also have within that universe, that’s why ODST is so damn good.
But then theyd have to change CE's story. Why is that a good thing?
No resources for infinite campaign dlc, but all the time and money in the world for a CE remake
ok
it's incredibly stupid to move back in time.... AGAIN. like if we had to choose between, say, 2 spin-offs and 1 mainline game or 1 spin-off, 1 remaster, and 1 mainline game, we would all say screw the remaster, let's get more NEW content. at least that's what I feel like
I just want the franchise to move forward.
I don't know if that's possible anymore, but don't let me keep your hope down.
Please don’t do it 343
THANK YOU!
I literally have been scratching my head since yesterday over the positive reactions from all the other halo youtubers.
I know that we want more Halo, and Microsoft wants to introduce this to rival consoles, but like you said: "Just bring the MCC".
Im not onboard since there is such a large margin of error.
The atmosphere may not be captured, the gunplay, the physics, the feel of it; it's on the unreal5 engine after all (or so I've heard). Halo can't risk another stumble like this, less on a remake of such an amazing classic.
I agree 100%. I really didn’t understand if it’s just delusional fanboys or amnesia. Like Microsoft can say “hey, here’s lazy nostalgia” and everybody is happy like we haven’t experienced the shit show state Halo has been in.
Finally a youtuber talking about this. Halo is too big to keep releasing remakes, remasters, etc. I've seen a lot of people say "oh but it's a remake, no a remaster", but the point still remains. Even if they add things, it's still the same story and campaign that we've been playing for years. This isn't what we need, especially when we've had 2 new games in the last 7 years (one being an RTS).
It’s lazy, but the fact that UA-camrs are excited about it is showing Microsoft that lazy sells lol
Good perspective, man! Keep it up!
Thanks my man!
I'm going to bet this will be the biggest split in the community (half of everyone will love it and the other half will be disappointed)
I've got a suspicion that 343 is doing this just to get some experience shipping a full game in the unreal engine. It might also help them to nail that halo feel in an unfamiliar engine. Really I agree with that sentiment. I also think it could be a strong initial step to bringing Halo to other platforms. I will say though where we do not have a Halo 3 remaster as you said and the community is quite vocal that they want one. I would not be opposed to a "remake" that re-tells chiefs story Halo 1 - 3 in a single long form game. It would be great to experience Chiefs story with gameplay, narrative, and visual consistency. I also think it could be what the gaming community has been asking for in regards to more story driven games. Imagine a 30 - 40 hour Halo campaign, call it "The Reclaimer Saga" and put in all the cut content and perhaps tighten the story threads across the titles. Installation 00 has a great video on what Halo Infinite Campaign could have been and this would be seem to be a ripe opportunity to deliver something similar without the need to write a new story.
You need a remaster if you’re going to do a full retcon of other games.
With that being said, if there is a remaster, I want more. I want more levels. I want more horror. I’d love a level where you play as an ODST or Marine. I want more banter from Cortana. I’d love a post Halo animation of Chief finding Johnson.
Just MORE.
I'd be down for all of that, but I would have preferred for 343 to just focus on Halo 7 as well as other spinoff halos, while another developer creates the Halo CE/2/3 remasters. Regardless, I'd love to see some cut content added back into the games, and as you said "MORE" of just everything :)
That would be a remake, not a remaster
@@GallowayJesse also wrong a remake is remaking the game from
The ground up but keeping the same story or adding to it. You’re thinking of a reboot in which all previous canon is forgotten and rebooted to a new story
Resident evil and dead space are remakes they keep to the original story and change very little unless it’s to improve gameplay or story
I do agree with this, although a proper Remaster for CE would be amazing I want nothing more than a halo 3 remaster and I think CE doesn't really need to be "fixed" again just yet. I do understand this could be a perfect setup for halo to release on PlayStation as it would get new players excited and want to play the games that come after and what better game for that than CE to start their journey on this franchise, because nobody wants to start a new game series on the 3rd game.
Glad you agree Caleb, I'd say 343 should bring Halo MCC to playstation, so those guys can experience all the games from the beginning, and then 343 could try release Halo 3A to Xbox, PC, and PlayStation. I feel that would be the best-case scenario for this.
@FootedGhost This remake is for new players. Not the 50 people who played CE and are still around today. The series needs a shot in the arm. Same way Resident Evil got a relaunch.
@@FootedGhostI don't think PlayStation players would even play halo anyway if they did they wouldn't play it because halo is great it would be to "own" Xbox players.
I couldnt possibly disagree more. CEA still haunts my dreams bruh. Fix that shit
I agree. If they want Halo 1 on Playstation, give em the MCC. I also want to see new stories fleshed out. There's so much lore to explore with the banished and what happened with the Infinity. Make ODST 2 but instead of New Mombasa you're stuck in a Banished occupied section of seta Halo or something
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I agree with you 100% we going back coz they dont have idea to make a game
I mean, considering this is rumored to be a REMAKE (similar to DS and RE4) and not another remaster, as well as CE’s initial remaster not being well received, I’m not sure I have a problem with this. At least not yet.
True, and that's a fair point. A remake would be very different, although I'd be scared to see what changes 343 would make to the overall game. It would have to be done very well, let's just say that!
From what's going around after this came out it sounds like Microsoft might be making a push for remakes to make the games line up with the tv show. If that's the case halo is doomed.
@@zulerisgaming8523 . . . What are you on about? Why would they do that?
@nicholasshealy9040 black rock and other company's that give large amounts of money to have you pander or push agenda. Microsoft is already a client of sweet baby Inc. Thats what I'm on about give Microsoft the chance they will turn halo into an abomination.
@@nicholasshealy9040 yes indeed unfortunately. The new model for MC is molded after Pablo Schrieber, they've already released model prototypes
Halo needs to go forward and explore new stories. not going back to the same old
Spot on 💯
I think the idea is to get the team at 343 re unified and the best way to do that for them seems to be to go back and have them do a Halo game from the ground up and that starts by remaking Halo 1, sorta like the way Capcom went back and started remastering/remaking Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3. As a fan, I’m glad to be getting some news finally. Halo 7 may be 5-6 years away, and the team needs to learn how to make a Halo game and the mentality might just be, learn from the roots.
Not bad strategy, but if Halo 7 is ~2030? Its over. 15 years between Halo 5, a story they still have not finished, and the successor to Infinite just doesn't work. Infinite was unfortunately the last game for a lot of people because they are aging out, and Microsoft biffed it.
The original trilogy was made in 6 years. All this to say I think you scrap the Reclaimer saga story, and make spinoff games. They missed the train on making mainline Halo sequels.
You get it. It's almost like a series relaunch.
@@kekkonr7773 I agree, if it takes them until 2030, the series can take a major hit. But other franchises have been able to come back after long hiatuses between entries (Kingdom Hearts 2 to 3, and to 4)
I’m not a tech analyst or industry insider. I don’t know what it’ll take to get the next entry out sooner. But what I do know is people and teams. After Halo Infinite, 343 seems like it’s in shambles. So the team needs to rebuild itself from the ground up. That means training people to do the jobs that the studio needs to produce the game. In addition to building their skills, they need to cultivate the passion amongst the team to really get their wheels spinning. A Halo 1 remake is the just the kind of project to get them accustomed to working in the Unreal Engine 5 and build a Halo game and a Halo culture. Maybe some of these tools and pipelines they develop while making Halo 1 remake will help them develop a strong foundation to go into Halo 7 with.
@@dwallace8731 I felt like Halo Infinite was meant to be the series relaunch, even down to the cover art of Halo Infinite mimicking the art of the Halo:CE cover art.
Going back to Halo 1 at this point, especially with the switch to Unreal Engine 5 feels like this is going to be a series overhaul, which I think the series needs after drop off in the players from the launch to now of Halo Infinite and the less than stellar acclaim of the Halo TV show.
I kind of agree. I would love a great CE, or hell, H3 remaster/remake, but I would MUCH rather we get a new title that would push the story forward.
FootedGhost is the only Halo youtuber with a brain
I think it would be more disastrous if they DON'T fix what they broke with CEA. Give us a faithful remaster of CE and then we can move on to everything else, like H3A and hopefully a reboot of the 343 games
Big agree. CE deserves this if its true. Halo 3 also deserves it but it wasnt wronged like CE was lol. Fix CE then we can talk about H3.
90% chance it's a separate smaller studio, maybe even Certain Affinity, working on this project.
Don't let certain affinity anywhere near it they fucked Halo CE.
@@thomasford2032 certain affinity only worked on the Reach anniversary multiplayer. The campaign was made by Saber interactive in collaboration with 343.
Am I the only one who doesn’t want a remake or remaster?
Just make a competent Halo game with no BS like a Battle Pass or yet another 5v5 hero shooter or even a battle royale… none of that please!
Just do a Halo game with a lore accurate, advancing story between two characters, Master Chief and Arby…
or if we want to do that well known Halo 343i innovation… forget about the Arbiter and let us do one half of the story as perhaps a playable brute fighting alongside the Banished against a new flood outbreak on Zeta Halo that somewhere down the lines intertwines with Chief’s storyline? Maybe?
I would actually like that depending on how it goes…
Booo
@@dwallace8731 what you mean “booo”? 😂
You like having overpriced games resold to you just in updated graphics?
Especially when we know for a fact that if 343i is gonna make it a “remake”, it’s gonna have a pretty bad twist to it that messes up the OG lore or massive contextual/plot issues etc…
The atmosphere, feel, in game balancing is all at stake… because 343i dipped their toes in it… they did it with MCC and Halo Infinite…
Do you believe we should even at the slightest trust 343 with a Halo CE remake?
I know, Halo is too big to keep doing remakes or remasters.
People don’t really seem to get into a company mindset. This isn’t about the old or current fans or even nostalgia, it seems much more like a tactics for potential future profits. A game at its core fundamentals is profits, a company needs it to get money for money and for game design. There is even a potential it would do a lot more good for a Halo 3 Anniversay
Looks at the new generation and compare it to the halo series, the halo series is like a movie, if you enter into halo from halo 3 you may get the story but not the full lore and you miss chunks of halo. Some people care about the flashy graphics to entices them to play a game, all you need is big name, interesting look, flashy aspects, and nice graphics and it can draw in people and kids who have NEVER played halo.
It would bring them into the first halo game. And think about what happens if they like the first halo game? What would they do? It may incentivize them to buy Halo 2, then Halo 3, and so forth.
It’s a tactics to get more new fans to gain more profits.
Link this with Halo 3 Anniversary then, with more potential fans and more money, they can now then contribute more money and development to Halo 3 anniversary so that both the old and current fans get what they want, but additionally, the new fans who may have now bought halo 2 may also hope on this and want halo 3 anniversary as well.
If halo 3 anniversary were to be made now, who would it cater to? Only to current and old fans? They would have put a lot of money into it but not gain much of a larger player base or vast profit.
A game at is core is about profits for the company, you make the players happy to get the profits, but at times there are paths in the way.
I came into halo via halo 2 and halo 3 about 13 years ago, I had never played halo CE until like a few months ago, for a long period of time, what drew me in was the gameplay, they I started only playing halo 2 and reach since the graphics and gameplay are what kept me and what also kept me immersed.
While I don’t mind the old graphics, there is something in particular with the new graphics which immerses people, for existing players, a revamped halo CE may not do much, but for new players, it could draw a lot of new potential customers.
Now all of this could fail, but company wise this is a semi-strong way they could possibly get a large profit and new player base
just make a new story i understand and like the idea of more people experiencing halo from the start but we dont need a complete graphical overhall and if it is add it to MCC as a option to play on Xbox and PC
A new story or a continuation from Infinite is all I want lol
CE absolulty needs a new remaster, especially after the insult that is CEA
Bro seriously where is Halo 3 anniversary
If they do this RIGHT then this could be a HUGE moment for Halo and the community with gaining new players and allowing our community to grow and be a top dog just like how it was before
While I think it'll be great for people who haven't had the opportunity for halo, it really needs a big selling point for people who are already familiar with CE.
I'm not going to draw any conclusions yet, seeing as it's early days, but I'm not exactly reaching for my wallet yet.
I agree.
My biggest fear is that they approach the remake in a similar way the re-told Modern Warfare games have. Of course I'm conscious that remake/remaster/reboot have different meanings but not always clear-cut, can intermingle a bit which makes me uneasy...
Playing devil's advocate;
A remaster or re-telling of CE for the purpose of dipping into the PS market sounds like a pure business move directed by Microsoft, but also a testing-bed of sorts for things that 343 +auxiliary studios have learned over time perhaps.
If mainline Halo games are rumored to be on Unreal for the future, then this sounds like a good way to 'flight' and test this approach as they don't have to break 'industry moulds' with a remaster. 2 birds 1 stone.
If this is 100% happening and in the works,
A remake that is extremely faithful yet brings the art-forms into the modern light would be pretty cool and bring some short-lived novelty, but feels a little overkill at this stage..
A spin-off feels like time and resources better spent in my opinion.
Halo CE from another perspective perhaps?
If it’s a remake, then yeah I’m all for it. Like hiddenxperia was saying they could add cut content and add stuff from the books. But if it’s a remaster, I wouldn’t mind, but I would rather have a new game, say a halo 3 remaster.
A remake of Halo CE that features a fully revitalized campaign that incorporates and draws from all the expanded lore, and stuff that's gotten more fleshed out over time that incorporates all the enemies and weapons that "should have been there" after later games were made and expands on the open world/exploration aspect could actually be really great. Make Marvin Mobuto, Johnson's escape, etc. missions you can unlock after beating the core campaign.
I've been kind of in the same sentiment for it, more so asking myself, "I want to be excited for this. But should I?"
Don't get me wrong, as someone who hopped on to the franchise starting out on this game, I wouldn't mind seeing this, considering there's true heart and passion given into the project to make this a truly faithful remix of old and new, a spin into the story that brings elements from the novel HALO: The Flood, as well as many other quality of life improvements among other things that'll up the ante for this game as a remake.
Now, one reason I can think why a remake is happening in the first place, is that this would 343 Industries' first standalone product that isn't running on their old BLAM engine (if we remember, they made the switch to UE5 long ago), and the remake is more or less a testing bed for them to try and "emulate" the feel of HALO's gameplay loop, which I support in good faith since it has already been done several times in MCC as well for the sake of HALO Infinite. But then again, if they are trying to test things out, a spin-off title, in that context, would actually be a safer bet to play for 343, considering it wouldn't be something big as a remake of a major title, so now that you bring it up, it does feel confusing.
Now on the topic of why not HALO 3...the only logical reason I can think of why that's not happening is, a species in this world called "HALO 3 purists" exist, and you DO NOT want to mess with them LMFAO.
Conclusion: I don't think the existence of a HALO: CE remake is necessarily bad - far from it, and considering recent changes at 343, there actually might be some hope for this project, that reassurance that maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't be disappointed with it. But then again, you remember this is 343 Industries we're talking about, and putting faith on them is a game of "hit or miss". I don't mean to be disrespectful towards the developers, I only wish to speak my concerns with the people who would see, review and approve the final product before handing it over to us, the fans of this franchise. Which is where I believe things have a chance of going horribly wrong.
Like Cortana once said, "If I still had fingers, they'd be crossed."
I actually disagree here. Because ce is my favorite and it’s still great to play. But I want a good accurate remaster
I think its the other way around, a remaster is not only a safe option but it also tests the waters for how halo will perform on unreal (if they are using thhat engine for the remaster) and it’s going to sell because of familiarity and nostalgia. They have Halo 2 Anniversary to follow aswell so im sure its going to perform very well.
Its only drawback is resources as you said, less people will be working on other titles. But this could also be great for bringing in new and old and make a profit depending on the length of time it will take to create. Which id imagine would be around 1-2 years from now.
If it's a faithful remaster of CE that honors the original art style/direction, I'm mystified as to why anyone would NOT want this. I've been waiting for this since CEA destroyed the original in the new graphics.
@@Arander92
It's crazy bc with CEA I never believed we would get a remaster and 3 would be the one that gets the attention, still got my fingers crossed for that! But tbf all the games still play great, I think my only question would be how faithful they'll be to the gameplay.
@@abirdwitharms shouldn’t change at all imo. Just remaster the graphics, maybe add some unlockable side missions, a little splitscreen co-op and BOOM you got your remaster
I'd honestly love to see modern day remakes of the entire trilogy as long as they're faithful to the original games. Would make them a lot more playable/enjoyable for younger people.
A remake or remaster is the LAST thing they should be doing right now, a spinoff however would be very fitting, giving 343 some creative breathing room while they try to figure out where to go from infinite, potentially avoiding another "wipe the slate try again" situation. Halo is in a tough spot right now, and having a remake/remaster is something that is not helpful in the slightest. Halo infinite was in development hell for 6 whole years, Microsoft is in shambles, and the community is on fire. 343 needs time to wind down and work on something other than the jolly green giant himself. Focus on other things, perhaps a co-op centered spartan ops type campaign revolving around the 6 months chief was down for the count. The entire story was basically during those 6 months in the audio logs. Perhaps if you play Solo you play as Thomas Horvath, and in Co Op you play as one of the SIVs at the Reverie and the campaign ends after the Reverie falls.
I want a Doom 2016 style reboot. Time to hit reset on the story, try something new.
imagine a halo 2 remaster where there are far more missions in high charity and u see in high charity outer space battle , imagine new flood missions in new graphics and imagine odst or halo 3 in a more polished way and odst lets say is not on mombasa its on another planet, or lets imagine things that were cut out because of budget etc etc so in my opinion it could be a success story or a disaster , i think it would be smarter to make a halo 7 that plays after infinite
If nothing else, they needed to have a Halo game set back in the good old days where it was us vs the covenant and all of humanity was on the line.
Yeah 343 really messed up the feeling of halo by getting away from the gritty boots on the ground, humanity on the ropes, your the best tech and chance for survival against a superior enemy feeling. Humanity went from an almost extinction event in Halo 2/3 to oh look we have this mega ship the Infinity and oh we can make super Spartans with normal marines in less than 5 years after Halo 3's conclusion. Should have started with humanity rebuilding.. slowly.. like it would happen in reality.. lacking equipment and supplies to keep that on the back foot feeling.
I'm 50/50 on it. I really think we need a new story more than anything else!
No one said we're not also not getting a new story.
@dwallace8731 No, I get that, but priorities you know 🙂
I don't want a remake either. However, they could have events that were behind the scenes playable. Like playing as Private Jenkins up to the point where he gets infected, followed by cutscenes of his gruesome transformation. We could play as Marvin Mobuto making his way towards the index in the library. Even see cutscenes of Zuka Zamamee preparing to hunt down chief with Yayap. Overall, I think a remake is redundant and I would rather them focus on games that progress the story.
I personally want to see a proper remake that's closer to Bungie's original vision since they had to restart the project from scratch and weren't able to implement a lot of their ideas.
All that aside I do like that, if that part about being released on Playstation is true, then people that only own a Playstation can finally experience a Halo game.
I’m on the side thinking that this is the step we need to take. Combat Evolved’s Anniversary was hardly a remaster, let alone remake. The way I see it, 343 knows that CE/A is bad, and they are going back, fixing their mistake. I feel as if this is only good news. A CE remake paves the way to an even better Halo 3 Anniversary.
I think the idea to remaster CE on UE5 might not be stupid because by redoing the game on UE5 they gain experience with the engine before making the sequel and learn how to import a lot of what made CE great and replicate it on UE5 like the physics
What you’re ignoring (respectfully) is context. Halo being a new experience in FPS is also what added to it being special. I’m sorry, but we can never get the flood introduction again, or the marvel of experiencing the story for the first time. The more we become content without, the easier it will be to grow because whatever is rehashed will more than likely be disappointing based on 343’s track record.
@@huesoftheheart139 What youre ignoring is that this isnt about you. It's about newcomers getting to experience this wonderful story for the first time in updated graphics. Don't you want other people to understand why we love Halo so much? Dont you think its a little selfish to cry that WE are not getting a new experience?
"Halo being a new experience in FPS is also what added to it being special. I’m sorry, but we can never get the flood introduction again, or the marvel of experiencing the story for the first time."
We may not ever get that experience again, but OTHERS will! Doesn't that matter to you?
@@Arander92 I appreciate the perspective and I’m not ignoring that. I just think the context of Halo CE’s impact on gaming HEAVILY drove it’s success. “We” (the halo community) are the main reason Halo has any relevance today. I’m all for new incoming Halo experience, but give them something new so they can go back, I’m willing to bet this remastered business model is leaning on old fans nostalgia because 1) we’ll always show up for new halo 2) they’ve constantly failed at expanding their Halo “broader audience” approach.
@@huesoftheheart139 I get that, but I just don’t agree the “new” thing should be a bastardized version of the original installment. The baseline experience the whole franchise is based on should not under any circumstances be “remade” or “reimagined” or “recontextualized”. I find the idea to be offensive, if we’re being totally honest. Whatever is new for the old school fans, let it be whatever the new mainline entry is. We shouldn’t be resorting to tainting classic experiences just because we’re desperate for something new that WE can chew on. I’d rather have not anything at all tbh
@@Arander92 100% agree 💯
I want to see a new Halo project focusing on Spartan Teams. I'd like to see a "Spartan Ops" game. Have focus on squad like in Halo Reach. Everyone talks about AI, how about using it in game! Also allow coop - 2 player for a single console. Four player coop online.
I think part of it is a lot of other UA-camrs are pushing the news and showing excitement because we are so starved for positive news
I genuinely feel like the current cannon is so convoluted it needs to start again. You need a Masters degree to explain Infinite to a Halo newbie. You never got that with the older games...
If they were to start again, start further back than CE, and do more than just a trilogy for the Covenant war. Sprinkle some spinoffs in there for added seasoning.
CE deserves a proper remaster/remake. Probably will be 343s test run of the Unreal Engine as well allowing cut content and added content. Theres no way the whole team would be working on this, and I see it as nothing but a positive thing.
What if 343 does what we've been seeing with cod modern warfare? Where it's technically the same game it follows the same story but it's a complete rework? This was my first thought when I heard about this, I think it could be neato mosquito
I was actually sort of wondering if we would get a Halo 3 Anniversary announcement at the Xbox Games Showcase as well for Halo 3's 20th year anniversary coming up in a couple of years but, with this Halo CEA 2 rumor, that's probably not gonna happen, unless they're trying to release a Re-Remaster of the whole trilogy and release it on all platforms to bring in new people into the Halo franchise with the best games of the series. Idk, I'm not ALL for it but I'm still excited. Kind of agree that it's a bit of a shame that it's gonna be on Halo CE and not Halo 3 tho, we've already had 23 years to play Halo CE and, for most of the community, I'm sure we're all already played through it more times than we can count.
Halo CE is amazing. I would love a proper remake of it, but I also just wanna know what's gonna happen in the story next and where the hell all my favorite characters have been. Infinite's story was the most one note, barebones thing they could've possibly put out and I am starving for more campaign content personally.
If this is a ground up remake there's a lot of really cool potential
You'd be surprised with how many people are stubborn with playing older games. If they do it right, it'd be a great reintrodueing to a modern audience who don't have patience for older games. All we can do is hope though.
Honestly, I agree that a new story would be awesome, but I think a full remake of CE would be a huge benefit. If done well, this could be an opportunity for the new 343 to really show that they mean business and ground themselves in the classic Halo experience. Besides, a good CE remake could make way for Halo 2 and 3.
I think it’s safe to say most Halo fans love the original CE. I always will. But to be fair, some of my friends can’t get into it. There’s definitely elements of CE that have shown their age, and while I love the character this adds to the game, not everyone does. A good remake of this game (100% faithful to the spirit of the original and adds to it) could be something great for old and new fans alike.
They could do the resident evil 4 route and add more to the game. We could literally get a halo the flood game, and if dlc is considered we could get a halo first strike dlc. I mean the possibilities are infinite.
Hell we could get another dlc similar to RE4s separate ways dlc where we are focusing on the pov of other characters such as Zuka zamamee, Silva and his odsts, Rtas vadumn, and hell even Johnson.
I remember when they were first making halo vr anniversary they started with it using halo reach assets and I was pretty excited for that
But then I was disappointed when they decided not to do that
All points are fair. I am just gonna say, there are new and new players coming in who have no clue what Halo is. While the main line Halo can focus on continuing the franchise.. it doesn't hurt to capture new audiences and younger ones too.
I am genuinely curious about the age bracket us Halo fans come into.. I am willing to bet, it's on the older side.
Though I’d prefer halo 3 remaster, if this is an actual CE remake there should be an extra Sergeant Johnson mission and even a Covenant mission about the Sangheli who was trying to assasinate Master Chief in the Flopd book.
I’m not on the mind of remaking Halo games but I wouldn’t mind seeing a new rendition of Halo CEA. I’m so used to the one in 2011.
I also agree that if a remake comes out it’s gonna divide the community into shambles than it already was with how Halo has been handled. Nobody can be pleased these days and it’s these people that are out of their minds. I don’t think Halo 3 should be remade because it still runs good and looks well from 2007.
I really hope it’s a different studio making it so 343 can work on the next game because if it’s just a remaster not a remake it is genuinely a waste of time for me. A remake would be cool but I’ve played ce millions of times so it would have to be an expanded ce like HALO: The battle for alpha halo, with new missions, weapons and vehicles and even throw in the arbiters pov for some missions halo 2 style because new graphics and slightly improved gameplay isn’t different enough for me to care and just puts the next NEW campaign further and further away
I really hope "advanced movement" isn't included in this remaster
I actually love the fact that halo CE is getting a remaster the last time it got one it wasn't much likied i hope this next one is great
I see where your coming from and I do agree... but also as someone who didn't grow up playing CE and who didn't really appreciate the game as much as others do, I love a reason to explore a version of the game more if you know what I mean.
I'm not to bothered as long as another studio or a small branch of 343 is working on it. More the merrier
Honestly at this point, i just hope the remake doesn't go down like halo infinite with it's playdough type feel (and that it has blood like the original Halo CE)
It comes down to the fact that the IP's change in direction, in terms of story/lore with Frank O'Conner behind the wheel, have ultimately resulted in the IP plummeting in relevance and care. It plummeted so low to the point that irreversible damage has been done that simply cannot be undone without utilizing mass retcons of all 343i-added lore/content.
Believe it or not, but trucking forward and simply making MORE Halo, with the backbone 343i created, would ultimately result in the death of Halo. People simply DO NOT CARE about anything 343i (Frank O'Conner) created.
A remake, a genuine recreation of the idea of Halo with the SAME story created by the original lead Bungie devs, is 343i's only way to distance themselves from the failure that Halo has become between 2011-now. The Resident Evil Remakes come to mind. So too do the FF7 remakes.
Take a second to imagine who replaced the people that were fired from 343i.
The extreme negatives to this are what if they retell the story or redo any aspects in a way that alienates Halo and what it is or just screw things up? What if it looks unfaithful again? What sort of projects would it be putting in the trash can? Why is CE priority again? It would be cool if it worked out, but it’s not what we need and I can guarantee you a remake with the mindset of making for modern audiences probably would end bad just with their track record.
Halo Ce unlike many older games isn’t really held back gameplay wise by the technology of the time. Sure theirs are some graphical issues, theirs only run animation so you run regardless of speed, but I don’t trust their not gonna change as much as possible to fit their “silver timeline” so they can make a halo trilogy In their image.
I keep hearing the words remake and remaster get thrown around but whats the point of another remaster if they have the MCC. if its not a remake then its even less pointless than the idea of a remaster but personally I want Halo to stretch its legs and walk into uncharted territory. We had Halo Wars do this and it was a great game, Halo ODST did a new type of story telling and it was one of the best halos. I love halo but I started to branch out into places like ARMA 3 or Xcom 2 Mods to just get a new type of Halo experience. We need something new, not just another FPS with the same multiplayer we had in the last games.
100% agree. It may be good, but there are so many Halo Games I would rather see. You can play CE in so many ways, hell play SPV3 if you dont like HCEA, but investing time and money into another remake is just so unnecessary.
First of all I’ll believe it when I see it, and secondly, I already know I’m going to prefer the original over anything they think they can do to make it better.
I think there are a few reasons for CE over 3.
1: Right the wrong of CEA (although I dont mind CEA and anytime I play through, i use the CEA style)
2. Halo 3 doesn't look as dated as CE and 2 did when they got their remasters.
3. It's probably the first UE5 Halo game and the first on PS, so why not start from the beginning of the franchise.
Also, I did hear some people speculate that this was a remake of the MP only, which never got a remake in CEA it was just Halo Reach. So i wonder if this would be the predicted September Halo MP only game
I do kind of agree with this. As much as a new remake would be cool, right now halo really needs new content. A remake of an old game, that already has a remaster, sounds much less interesting to me than a new halo game. And it's true, if this is done poorly again, it could be really bad. I wouldn't mind seeing this be made made later on, I mean the more halo content the better, but I think first we need a brad new halo experience of some sort. Maybe that's the plan to make it later after other content, but I'm not sure.
If they remake it, it would be sweet if they added online support for MP
I agree with you I feel like they should make spin-offs and Halo 3 anniversary and also Halo 7 I'm not looking forward to another Halo 1 anniversary I respect halo 1 for what it did but it is the least interesting one out of all of them
All they have to do is combine, halo 3, reach, and halo wars 2 together. Update the graphics like normal, and hsve a check list of the things fans ask for and their game would be perfect. Oh and a solid, long campaign.
Sounds fun to me. I think it could be really fun to play a remake of halo CE. I would love to play a modern version of halo ce multiplayer with no sprint.
I have a really bad feeling this will be their reboot.
Agreed!
I love CE, but I don't want to go back to it again especially after waiting YEARS for the cliffhangers for Infinite and Halo Wars 2 to be resolved, let's wrap those storylines up first please. Or let's at least get a new spinoff or H3 + ODST Remaster instead.
Not against a CE remake some day, I'd love to see cut content and some elements from the books brought into it, but this just feels really pointless right now
They are doing it to introduce halo to new fans on playstation which seems like the ideal move with a Combat Evolved remake and then from there if the game does good they prob remake everygame in unreal giving them more time to work on halo 7 which will also prob be in unreal engine and will allow player to adjust to the new feeling of halo on the new engine
Their best bet would be making a flood horror style game, Remastering Halo 3, making a flood type firefight or just continuing the story. We do not need the same game remade a million times
Halo Fans: Give us Halo 3 Remaster.
MS: No.
I don’t want another CE remaster/remake either. Halo 3, ODST, and Reach could use the H2A treatment though.
There is no point in CEA2 unless it's a remake MASSIVE upgrade with all the cut levels,maps, and weapons. I would still prefer a spinoff or a H3A.
It's going to be on Unreal Engine. So it's going to be a full blown remake. Not just a simple remaster.
Honestly i think Halo 3 looks fine as is. Like you said, I'd much rather play an interesting spin off game instead experiencing CE's story for the 4th time (yes I'm including the book, the additions are small)
Tbh, while I agree that I would HEAVILY prefer a spinoff or new mainline halo game, I feel like we haven't had a true remaster of Halo CE, and if it is going to be a remake with restored cut content, I think that would be pretty cool
Well let me ruin it for you because from sounds of it Microsoft wants to remake the past games to fit the tv show.
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Need something new. This franchise has lived off of Halo 1-3 for almost 30 years. Leave the masterpieces alone, 343 will screw it up anyways. Shocked the community is excited by this.
I completely agree with you bro. We need some new Halo games to get excited about. We've all played the old ones to death, and we certainly don't need another remaster of CE.
@@FootedGhost amen, so glad you spoke your mind on this man
We are excited because it would be cool to see a beloved game in modern graphics, 343 has a higher chance of screwing up anything new anyways so what’s your point?
@@3lectric220 the more resources 343 dumps into a not-needed remake is a waste, just because you want new graphics doesn’t cut it. Halo needs to be focused on new experiences that capture newer audiences. The fans excited about a remake are the same fans that have been around for 30 years, hence why Halo has slowly died. Given Microsoft is cutting studios left and right, Halo needs all assets focused on new experiences that yield returns. Elden Ring, God of War, Zelda, Mario etc all continue to innovate and are not focused on milking past successes.
I'd certainly rather they do something new. But if this is the foundation of adding PS support AND they spent some time re-adding and finishing some cut weapons / enemies / levels, it might not be the worst thing.
We don't need Anniversary 2. But if it is to be ported to PS5, sprucing it up with the full treatment of sandbox additions, brutes, engineers, ODSTs, maybe an alpha base level ... not the worst idea.
On the other hand, a full reboot that throws out the legacy timeline and starts completely fresh ... that would be the worst possibility.
Yeah I agree no point to remasters or remakes, it screams of creative bankruptcy
This is the only sound take, if we got a new halo every year like cod, sure but we get halo every 3 years minimum so imagine this trying to live more than a year everyone would be bored of it and allocation of resources would be wasted
I just want 343 to continue what they've currently established with their universe and make an original game. I've played CE dozens of times, I don't need to experience it again.
I'm betting on this rumour to be fake until proven otherwise, because the reveal of another remaster of Halo CE would just tell me 343i is creatively bankrupt.
A remaster of halo 3 or reach were they got the old halo devs. Working on it would be awesome ❤
Exactly also they STILL haven’t finished a single story they made
If the goal is to remake the bungie games in unreal I’m for it but I’m highly skeptical knowing it’s 343. It sucks we have to be skeptical on our beloved franchise because it’s handled so incompetently
I'm worried they're gonna mess this up somehow, but if by some miracle they don't and it ends up being a proper remake then I'll be satisfied. But I have no faith in 343/Microsoft so I'll wait and see
Xbox slowly becoming Sega
They already are.
With console market dying out as a whole, maybe for the best...