Been wanting to do this as well. You can just run chain and sprocket to the factory gearbox I’m sure it’s gonna take some ideas and machining to adapt it but anything is possible. Good luck!
I’d love to pick your brain about that sometime, mind emailing me your phone number so we can chat about it and I can hear what was good and bad? :) TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com
Appreciate that! Not going to lie - pretty dang stoked that you guys commented on one of my videos!!! I definitely hope to meet you guys once it’s done!! 😎😜🤘🏼
Hopefully soon - just picked up another X3 to start building it so that way we do not have to tear apart the race car! Subscribe to see the build series and the drives!
Diesel won't hurt the injectors. If anything, it's more lubrication. The fuel pump shouldn't have enough residual that it causes an issue. First prime and crank will get rid of it.
Awesome concept, I will subscribe. But with that being said, Those Yamaha yxz1000r with paddle shift sound amazing and rev high and your able to turbo and build that engine to make big power. I know this will be a different animal due to the yxz suspension being horrible. But your main things you wanted where a better sounding , high Erving engine with a real paddle shift tranny
That’s exactly what happened, there was diesel in the new fuel pump (I’m guessing for testing and shipping) and that was getting pushed through everything!
Hey awesome idea…. I have a friend who used a twin turbo hayabusa in a stream liner bonnaville car. The engine was making around 1000 hp. They engineered the whole car from scratch. It’s not an X3 but he may be able to shed light on some good soultions or steer you in the right dissection. They have since broke it and replaced with a toyota engine. Let me know in a reply if you want to talk to him and I’ll put you in touch with him…. Good Luck
That’s awesome! We actually have been to Bonneville and ran a streamliner too! Such a small world! A twin turbo Busa motor must be an absolute MONSTER!!! That awesome!
Yea I have, I was thinking once you need to make custom axles and then do all the wiring etc, I was thinking it would likely be the same price, and plus I was thinking this would just be a little different :)
@@thejourneyretold not sure which side of the drive is on the Hayabusa but it shouldn't be too bad matching up the x3 secondary to the 4 inch Harley drive sprockets or even a super charger belt drive.. I'm also not sure if the busa clutch is going to enjoy 4wd drag so that 4 inch belt drive on secondary will need to be ratio'd accordingly. It'll be fun testing it at least 😀👍
@@thejourneyretold SCS gearbox looks Strong. Wonder what the loss is and or do they have a variety of dual idler gear sets to choose from.. So much easier 2 WD you sure you wanna be the first 4wd 😁
Yea to me keeping it 4WD is everything because we actually do so much snow wheeling up here. Literally 60% of the riding we do is actually snow - so 4WD is a must! If I can get it to work it’ll be worth it…hopefully there’s enough low end grunt in the Busa motor after a supercharger or turbo. We’ll see tho.
The really cool thing will be the paddles once we prove that the system works I want a paddle shift system like they have on the Radical SR3’s with the auto clipper for downshifts. Would be sweet!
Should of used kawasaki H2r motor supercharged 1000cc (244hp/113tq) factory specs. Or a Ducati v4 998cc v4 (234hp/94tq) factory specs The H2 sounds amazing w/high reving online 4cyl w/blow off valve The Ducati v4 has a deep sound bottom end and a super deep high rev v4 Or the other option would be the v-twin off 2010 Yamaha raider xv19czr 1883cc/113cui 140hp/137ft/tq
Fuuuuu dude I never even considered an H2!!!!!!! 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ that would’ve been so sick!!! A Ducati would be absolutely epic too, but realistically I cannot do that to a Duc - I would have to turn it into a piece of art and leave it in the house. lol
THAT is a good idea - I wonder how much power that could hold? Only reason I was thinking a blower belt is because it’s a cogged belt, but just a little fatter. But your idea would definitely not suck up near as much power
If you run a chain to the output shaft on the stock x3 transmission, you’ll keep 4x4. Just because you’re using the stock cvt transmission doesn’t mean it’s only going to be one gear. The hayabusa has an internal 6 speed transmission which means you’ll have 6 speeds and can still choose to be in low or high and have reverse. A chain is the easy option for the conversion, just keep a spare chain with ya
Also find out what the final drive gear is in high and in low and look up a gear calculator online. Use that and also the gearing from each gear from the hayabusa to figure out your sprocket size. It’ll probably be a small sprocket.
I’ve heard a chain just burns up (cooks the o-rings out) really quick though? I’d rather something a little more long term… How’d you get the sprocket onto the transmission input shaft? I’m assuming the splines don’t line up stock, or what sprocket did you get that did line up with the X3 trans?
I found that, but not sure then how to mate that upto the x3 transmission so I can still have reverse, park, and 4WD. I was thinking an SCS gearbox or a belt drive like a Harley or…??
Tried this on a Smart Car, hated it and sold it as a project. The thing is lack of low end grunt "tourque" on these engines makes you have to downshift a lot and that killed the enjoyment factor ! Bottom line, it's a cool project to do for the UA-cams and stuff, but won't be enjoyable unfortunately !
I never thought about that part - probably have to ring its neck all the time to keep it up in the power. Did you put a turbo on it or just NA? I was thinking a turbo or a super charger (supercharger would be nice because then the added power is always there instantly vs waiting for it to spool)
@@thejourneyretold if you throw your email, I can email you some photos of the build. Or we can FaceTime and chat a bit. A turbo won’t help in my case as the torque was lacking quite a bit !
I’d love all the info I can get! TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com What about a supercharger? At least that way there’s no lag…? You do bring up a very valid point about the low end grunt that I never considered… basically I’d have to drive it like it’s a 2 stroke dirt bike and keep it up in the RPM a solid bit…
@@thejourneyretold That's what they are made to do, keep the rpm's up and/or get your gearing ratio right between the engine factory trans. My 600's I always used a 15t front and 60th rear and could still do well over 120. My stock 120hp maverick will do 80 plus so if you can figure out what tooth sprockets to use, that 130cc will pull that thing along just fine. I actually have a bad secondary clutch that I cut the center spline section out of to do this in the future. Id run a 15-17 in the front and make the rear sprocket where it bolts on so you could change it out easily until you figure out what setup you want
Its like i found this video by synchronicity because i was just thinking of a steertbike engone in the can am or razor since they are already making four cylinder sxs 😎
You know, I’ve been riding dirt bikes and motorcycles since I was 4…you’d think I would’ve remembered that! lol sometimes I get nervous on camera and my brain goes out the window lol
You’ll never not be messing with the chain. I built a r1 rhino and to gear those motors to handle the weight you’ll melt chains. Not saying it’s not fun but your reliability is going way down.
The problem is the hayabusa transmission lower the gear ratio , the x3 trans lower it too. So you have to gear it up between the 2... so the drive sprocket need to be at least twice as big as the driven one and it is turning too fast for a chain. I think you should try a very big timing belt but i m not even sure it will last because of the load and rotating speed due to the gearing. If i was you, i know it may sound weird, but i would try pulley with multiple v belt like a lawn tractor
I was thinking a blower belt or a SCS gearbox. I’m just not sure which one I want to try first. I KNOW the SCS gearbox will hold, it’s just heavy and will rob some power, but I know that part will be bulletproof! Lol
@@thejourneyretold i will sound a bit negative but doing a hayabusa swap is not a good idea... you will end up with a sxs that has 3 gear box... it won t be reliable... you should choose another type of engine and put one good sequential gearbox if you really wanna do a swap...
Sequential gearbox - and I want to add boost to it right away. 300hp Busa is actually really easy and reliable. BUT the truth is overall it’s just a fun project, it won’t be great at anything, but it will be a lot of fun :)
I know I know and I’ve been riding bikes for over 30 years so idk what I was thinking - I get nervous on camera still and panic so I’m going to chalk it up to that lol
@@thejourneyretoldI love what you are doing tbh , the Yamaha is the funnest car to drive IMO but you are correct the whoops kill it . The fix is the avid suspension kit for these cars but it’s also a lot of work and expensive . I always wanted turbo yxz drive train in a x3 .
I've already done it to my rzr..6 speed sequential..with the H L N R..gearbox..it absolutely screems..oh and its still 4x4
HOW DID YOU GO FROM THE BUSA TO THE RZR GEARBOX?????? Email me so I can pick your brain: TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com
@@thejourneyretoldlooks like he used a chain.
Yes I used a high quality chain..and it's been working very well so far
How many miles are on the setup?
Also how’d you get the sprocket onto the RZR transmission?
Been wanting to do this as well. You can just run chain and sprocket to the factory gearbox I’m sure it’s gonna take some ideas and machining to adapt it but anything is possible. Good luck!
YES!!!!! I am 4 seconds in and I had to comment. I had a gen 1 in my single seat car and I have been wanting to do another build...Ok, back to it.
I’d love to pick your brain about that sometime, mind emailing me your phone number so we can chat about it and I can hear what was good and bad? :)
TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com
Genial por fin un vídeo.. Llevo 4 años pensando como se podría instalar un motor Hayabusa .. Saludos cordiales desde Patagonia Chile
Thanks! I think it’s going to be a blast, looking forward to it!
Very cool project! Looking forward to it!
Appreciate that! Not going to lie - pretty dang stoked that you guys commented on one of my videos!!! I definitely hope to meet you guys once it’s done!! 😎😜🤘🏼
Do you have a video of you driving it? That would be cool to see driving it
Hopefully soon - just picked up another X3 to start building it so that way we do not have to tear apart the race car! Subscribe to see the build series and the drives!
Diesel won't hurt the injectors. If anything, it's more lubrication. The fuel pump shouldn't have enough residual that it causes an issue. First prime and crank will get rid of it.
Still probably should’ve cleaned them out first tho 🤦🏼♂️
What about a chain in a oil bath to keep it from overheating? can you build a sealed case around it to keep the oil in?
From what I’ve read about the hayabusa sand rails, the chain setups don’t seem to last too long
@@coreyfincham3417 I'm going to see how long mine lasts..
Awesome concept, I will subscribe. But with that being said, Those Yamaha yxz1000r with paddle shift sound amazing and rev high and your able to turbo and build that engine to make big power. I know this will be a different animal due to the yxz suspension being horrible. But your main things you wanted where a better sounding , high Erving engine with a real paddle shift tranny
They definitely are insanely cool, I just think this could be really cool and different - IF I can figure it out lol
@@thejourneyretold yea fairy simple budd..I'll get some vids tomorrow
Please do a send them too me please: TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com
Its missing bad check the plugs do a psi test it might be the diesel fuel in it let it run some more after it cools down hope this helps ya out !
That’s exactly what happened, there was diesel in the new fuel pump (I’m guessing for testing and shipping) and that was getting pushed through everything!
I think a chain to belt like a big cruiser streetbike or a carbon belt drive to the track like on the new snowmobile
I’ll have to check out the sleds and their belt system
Hey awesome idea…. I have a friend who used a twin turbo hayabusa in a stream liner bonnaville car. The engine was making around 1000 hp. They engineered the whole car from scratch. It’s not an X3 but he may be able to shed light on some good soultions or steer you in the right dissection. They have since broke it and replaced with a toyota engine. Let me know in a reply if you want to talk to him and I’ll put you in touch with him…. Good Luck
That’s awesome! We actually have been to Bonneville and ran a streamliner too! Such a small world!
A twin turbo Busa motor must be an absolute MONSTER!!! That awesome!
have you considered a YXZ drivetrain? paddle shift with 4wd and diff lock
Yea I have, I was thinking once you need to make custom axles and then do all the wiring etc, I was thinking it would likely be the same price, and plus I was thinking this would just be a little different :)
Maybe look at those Harley belt drive units with the 4 inch belt.
I'll be here the entire build 👍😀
That’s a good idea - or I was thinking like an SCS gearbox on its side.
@@thejourneyretold not sure which side of the drive is on the Hayabusa but it shouldn't be too bad matching up the x3 secondary to the 4 inch Harley drive sprockets or even a super charger belt drive.. I'm also not sure if the busa clutch is going to enjoy 4wd drag so that 4 inch belt drive on secondary will need to be ratio'd accordingly. It'll be fun testing it at least 😀👍
@@thejourneyretold SCS gearbox looks Strong. Wonder what the loss is and or do they have a variety of dual idler gear sets to choose from.. So much easier 2 WD you sure you wanna be the first 4wd 😁
Yea to me keeping it 4WD is everything because we actually do so much snow wheeling up here. Literally 60% of the riding we do is actually snow - so 4WD is a must! If I can get it to work it’ll be worth it…hopefully there’s enough low end grunt in the Busa motor after a supercharger or turbo. We’ll see tho.
The really cool thing will be the paddles once we prove that the system works I want a paddle shift system like they have on the Radical SR3’s with the auto clipper for downshifts. Would be sweet!
Use a temperature gun to check the exhaust manifold temp on each cylinder to see if those injectors wake up.
That’s a really good idea, never thought of that!
Good luck!
Thank you!
I can’t offer any build help but I’m on my second X3 and tossing you a sub so I can follow this awesome madness 😂
Welcome and thank you for the support! I sure hope it’s as fun in the real world as it is in my head! Haha
Should of used kawasaki H2r motor supercharged 1000cc (244hp/113tq) factory specs.
Or a Ducati v4 998cc v4 (234hp/94tq) factory specs
The H2 sounds amazing w/high reving online 4cyl w/blow off valve
The Ducati v4 has a deep sound bottom end and a super deep high rev v4
Or the other option would be the v-twin off 2010 Yamaha raider xv19czr 1883cc/113cui 140hp/137ft/tq
Fuuuuu dude I never even considered an H2!!!!!!! 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ that would’ve been so sick!!! A Ducati would be absolutely epic too, but realistically I cannot do that to a Duc - I would have to turn it into a piece of art and leave it in the house. lol
Not sure where you are located. I have a X3RS, needs a motor. central CA. $8,000
Shoot me an email with some pictures if ya can: TheJourneyRetold@Gmail.com
Any luck on getting me an email? I’d love to hear more about it and see if we can make something happen!
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3:30 minutes in and i gotta ask lol, Why not just buy a yxz and put a factory turbo on it?
Ever driven a YXZ in the whoops? Garbage lol
Plus I think it would be a fun project.
Timing belt drive system with timing belt pulleys? Just thinking from the top of my head.
THAT is a good idea - I wonder how much power that could hold? Only reason I was thinking a blower belt is because it’s a cogged belt, but just a little fatter. But your idea would definitely not suck up near as much power
If you run a chain to the output shaft on the stock x3 transmission, you’ll keep 4x4. Just because you’re using the stock cvt transmission doesn’t mean it’s only going to be one gear. The hayabusa has an internal 6 speed transmission which means you’ll have 6 speeds and can still choose to be in low or high and have reverse. A chain is the easy option for the conversion, just keep a spare chain with ya
Also find out what the final drive gear is in high and in low and look up a gear calculator online. Use that and also the gearing from each gear from the hayabusa to figure out your sprocket size. It’ll probably be a small sprocket.
I'm using a 17t on my gsx and a 15t on my gearbox..seems just perfect
I’ve heard a chain just burns up (cooks the o-rings out) really quick though? I’d rather something a little more long term…
How’d you get the sprocket onto the transmission input shaft? I’m assuming the splines don’t line up stock, or what sprocket did you get that did line up with the X3 trans?
@@thejourneyretold u press the centre out of the secondary..then machine it to fit a round disc on end..tig weld it..drill tap fit sprocket on end
@thejourneyretold I can get some vids tomorrow on how I did mine..if u like
An much more reliable engine
In a street bike they’re super reliable, but I have a feeling the gearbox won’t be too reliable - but we shall see! 🤘🏼😎
They make a axle adapter for the busa it bolts on their the sprocket goes
I found that, but not sure then how to mate that upto the x3 transmission so I can still have reverse, park, and 4WD. I was thinking an SCS gearbox or a belt drive like a Harley or…??
Tried this on a Smart Car, hated it and sold it as a project. The thing is lack of low end grunt "tourque" on these engines makes you have to downshift a lot and that killed the enjoyment factor ! Bottom line, it's a cool project to do for the UA-cams and stuff, but won't be enjoyable unfortunately !
I never thought about that part - probably have to ring its neck all the time to keep it up in the power.
Did you put a turbo on it or just NA? I was thinking a turbo or a super charger (supercharger would be nice because then the added power is always there instantly vs waiting for it to spool)
Also how’d you get the power from the countershaft sprocket to the car transmission or tires?
@@thejourneyretold if you throw your email, I can email you some photos of the build. Or we can FaceTime and chat a bit.
A turbo won’t help in my case as the torque was lacking quite a bit !
I’d love all the info I can get!
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What about a supercharger? At least that way there’s no lag…? You do bring up a very valid point about the low end grunt that I never considered… basically I’d have to drive it like it’s a 2 stroke dirt bike and keep it up in the RPM a solid bit…
@@thejourneyretold That's what they are made to do, keep the rpm's up and/or get your gearing ratio right between the engine factory trans. My 600's I always used a 15t front and 60th rear and could still do well over 120. My stock 120hp maverick will do 80 plus so if you can figure out what tooth sprockets to use, that 130cc will pull that thing along just fine. I actually have a bad secondary clutch that I cut the center spline section out of to do this in the future. Id run a 15-17 in the front and make the rear sprocket where it bolts on so you could change it out easily until you figure out what setup you want
Hell Yeah!!!!
Should be sick!
Check out Boos by Smith. Greg is who you will talk to. He does his own electronics, gauges and does a lot with Hayabusa related stuff.
Badass man I’ll do that!
Ant got no gas in it.
When Reading this you cannot help but say it with the accent from that viral video lol
I want to see this
Well I just bought another X3 2 days ago specifically to cut up for this - so subscribe and tag along! 👍🏻😜😎
Its like i found this video by synchronicity because i was just thinking of a steertbike engone in the can am or razor since they are already making four cylinder sxs 😎
Great minds think alike!
Aprilia is Bristish now?
I know I know I get nervous on camera still and my mind went blank!
@thejourneyretold just joking man. Can't wait to watch this build.
No no all good - it makes me laugh how I panic and get so nervous about it haha
Not the first. There’s a guy that has a busa x3 that comes to our local track
Oh, and it’s turbo with cvt still
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Technically not the same - they’re using the CVT still. I want to use the gearbox in the hayabusa instead.
Aprilia is Italian.
You know, I’ve been riding dirt bikes and motorcycles since I was 4…you’d think I would’ve remembered that! lol sometimes I get nervous on camera and my brain goes out the window lol
@@thejourneyretold your good, keep up the good work my man!
You’ll never not be messing with the chain. I built a r1 rhino and to gear those motors to handle the weight you’ll melt chains.
Not saying it’s not fun but your reliability is going way down.
I totally agree and that’s exactly why I do NOT want to do a chain
Not first one in Michigan look on race rebuild repeat race they put on
That one was driven with the CVT and didn’t use the gearbox in the Busa - but it’s definitely cool AF!!!
So,you want a yxz...
Last thing I want is a YXZ… suspension/chassis geometry is trash for desert. BUT for Short course tho and a fun 4WD golf-cart - YXZ is king!
Aprilia British? I dont think so, try Italy.
Good call!
The problem is the hayabusa transmission lower the gear ratio , the x3 trans lower it too. So you have to gear it up between the 2... so the drive sprocket need to be at least twice as big as the driven one and it is turning too fast for a chain. I think you should try a very big timing belt but i m not even sure it will last because of the load and rotating speed due to the gearing. If i was you, i know it may sound weird, but i would try pulley with multiple v belt like a lawn tractor
I was thinking a blower belt or a SCS gearbox. I’m just not sure which one I want to try first. I KNOW the SCS gearbox will hold, it’s just heavy and will rob some power, but I know that part will be bulletproof! Lol
@@thejourneyretold i will sound a bit negative but doing a hayabusa swap is not a good idea... you will end up with a sxs that has 3 gear box... it won t be reliable... you should choose another type of engine and put one good sequential gearbox if you really wanna do a swap...
Grind hard plumbing! On you - tube. Can help with your dilemma
I’ll check it out!
Why would u put that motor when a stock x3 more hp just wondering I get idea but seams pointless mybe that why no one done it
Sequential gearbox - and I want to add boost to it right away. 300hp Busa is actually really easy and reliable. BUT the truth is overall it’s just a fun project, it won’t be great at anything, but it will be a lot of fun :)
Idea is great but bro you talk way too much. Just do it for crying out loud karen
Sounds good man, next video if you just mute it there’s less talking 😜👍🏻
I have a Can-Am 2018×3 with a blown engine for sale
Where approx are you located?
Aprilia is Italian not British
I know I know and I’ve been riding bikes for over 30 years so idk what I was thinking - I get nervous on camera still and panic so I’m going to chalk it up to that lol
@thejourneyretold good man! I wasn't trying to be funny but thanks for your honest response, good luck with it 😉👌
@andybowyer3602 I’m always honest - it’s much easier than being something you’re not
Your feelings are important..no
Thank you for this very valuable information! 👍🏻😎
WHY? The rotax has more HP from factory, and is a better platform to build on. This seems like a huge waste of time and money...?
Boosted Busa motor will eat a Rotax motor for lunch
LOL you're over thinking it man go buy Yamaha and tarbo kit and be done
Ever driven a YXZ through the whoops? Plus then I’d be like everyone else!
I will say, the YXZ’s sound AMAZING!!!!
No I haven't I'm a polaris guy myself best of luck to you
@@thejourneyretoldI love what you are doing tbh , the Yamaha is the funnest car to drive IMO but you are correct the whoops kill it . The fix is the avid suspension kit for these cars but it’s also a lot of work and expensive . I always wanted turbo yxz drive train in a x3 .