Canon 5ds and 5dsr Long Term 2021 Camera Review
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In this video I give a detailed and un bias review of the Canon Eos 5ds and Canon eos 5dsr camera systems for commercial food photography.
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B&H has 5DSr for $1,500 right now if you want to snag another.
I purchased the Canon 5Ds because it was $1299 and the Canon R5 was $3899 from Adorama. With the money saved I purchased a Tamron 90 f/2.8 VC macro and a Canon 16-35 f/4 IS L lens. I love to shoot macro and landscapes and the 5Ds is perfect for these applications.
Great to see that the 5dsr is still getting some love here, I have been using it for commercial architectural shoots for more than 4 years, its a reliable partner and life saver in many occasions (works like a charm for TS24 and 70-200 combination). Only downside is its weight though, the newer mirrorless are much lighter and less of a burden to carry around especially for outdoor shoots.
His paradigm isn't yours.
Too heavy for ya huh
The weight is not a problem in the studio sitting on its tripod. For outdoors I have a nice camera backpack that allows quick access to the camera and bullet proof protection. A Rolls Royce weighs more than an economy car and the thick 5Dsr magnesium frame and mirror dampening gears and overall quality build is satisfying compared to the cheap flimsy plastic feel of the newer mirrorless models. For the studio and short handheld shots this is still the best camera other then a high-end medium format - but how many of us are doing old fashion printed outdoor billboards?
Really enjoy watching your videos, I am thinking about investing in a 5DSR. I have used the 5D mk1 classic for 15 years photographing over 350 weddings, would like to try the 5DSR with a tilt/shift going back into the landscape. Keep making the great videos.
That was the most level headed, non hyped and honest review of this camera I've seen on UA-cam. Thank you!
I found a 5DS on the used market for a very appealing price hence me watching this video
Take it from someone who just picked up a Hasselblad H1 and P45+, Scott is right, a high resolution 35mm system is a better investment. The reason older backs are coming down in price now is because the CCD limitations (lack of usable live view and high ISO) coupled with the lack of USB tethering (firewire tethering is being phased out by Mac OS Big Sur and current supported Windows 10 builds) means that even though the files for studio and daylight are incredible, the process of image capture is slower, less refined and low light is near impossible. The value for money is still in 35mm DSLRs and we are spoiled for choice in all price ranges on the used market.
Does the 5DSR not have Live View?
Great technical review! I don't shoot your kind of work but I love hearing how you assess your gear for your specialty.
I love the 5DsR files even over the 5D4. Just something about the aesthetic and look out of camera. Question for me is do I add a 2nd 5DsR or a 5Ds. either way they will do me for the next 10 years no problem.
Anyone considering the R5 over the 5DsR.. if you shoot in the studio and don't need the video features go 5DsR.. you can almost buy 3 for the price of one R5. No brainer.
Your thought echo mine on this camera System Scott. Thank you for the video.
First, if you reply, my notifications are not set to let me know. But I used a 5DS and 2 x EOS R bodies for redwoods and portraits. I think the color of those two is similar and I like both. I sold one EOS R and bought an R6 but want another 3rd body that's high resolution. Moire' is rarely reported with the 5DS R so right now I'd say skip the 5DS because the 5DS R has very slightly more detail viewed 100% or 200% and the 5DS prices used are as high or higher for some reason. That leaves whether choosing the R5 which I've considered. But i rarely print portraits or wedding photos 30 inches and the R6 has a bit better dynamic range than the R5 so I've heard. But I'm still almost needing to flip a coin between the 5DS R and the R5. It may be that I love the real-time exposure shown in the new EVF of mirrorless. Now consider this video link where a photographer Sonder gets into the color of the R5 vs. Hasselblad. But carry that thought over into what then would the 5DS R be like for color compared to the R5? For that, I don't have the answer fully. But here >>> ua-cam.com/video/O0AhwX0ViGc/v-deo.html
@@TallTreesClub Ended up with a kit of two 5DsR and called it a day. Also have the 5DIV in the kit still for when I need a faster camera.
You hit all of the points on why this camera is most likely the best 35mm studio camera ever made! A 2015 camera that Canon never promoted as we former Hasselblad D- Back users now are loudly embracing and promoting to our fellow artists - even in 2022!
The days of big outdoor billboards are over - LED signs have killed them, medium format is no longer relevant when we have the Canon 5dsr!
This camera can do a Vogue front page without breaking a sweat!
The Canon 5dsr is more than is needed for printed artwork and mega overkill for online. Unlimited cropping of files, brilliant RAW Kodachrome 64 like colors are there if needed, certain depths of field give an almost 3D magical feel. Canon scared buyers away with warning them about MOIRE - my 5dsr cameras and those of others do NOT have Moire , and if the image did have a slight amount it only take a second on the slider to remove it - so the Moire issue is TOTAL BS in the real world. This camera is not a sports photographer point and shoot - it is a camera for artists and perfectionists who want only the best image with unlimited post processing range. In 2022 it is still has the edge on image quality!
Your videos are really good! You seem to break through the UA-cam artifice and thats a breath of fresh air
Agreed! I really really do love my 5dsr. It loves to be on a tripod, Hand held... yeaaa no. Great video. No marketing cr*p and specs and numbers and gimmicks, just a dam good camera for what it does.
5dsr hand held works fine for me. Significantly better than the 5dmiii that I had.
@@markrigg6623 I'm getting used to it more and more, I find it's a bit more sensitive than the mk4. this past weekend I didnt have many throw aways. Maybe I'm just too shaky!!!!
@@MacPassion Yes it pays to be a bit higher in shutter speed when it's possible to do it. Obviously the particular lense affects things as well.
this is the best review of these cameras.
Canon could not have produced a better ad! Also, you often talk about your TILT-SHIFT lenses and again, multiple times here. I would love to see a video, step-by-step, using the tilt-shift lens for your specific type of work. My real estate friends use them for buildings, but hope some day you do one for FOOD! Thanks!
Love our 5Ds' for our commercial work. Came from the Hasselblad H4D over to Canon because of the range of lenses and cost of investment ... great review true to form we still use Medium Format for contract works. Keep up the great work.
Can't find a used 5DSr for as good a price as B&H has for a NEW one. So, it's a new 5DSr from B&H for me! Thanks for the clarification with regard to the moiré issue and the greater detail from the DSr vs the DS. Great information, as always.
I was thinking about moving to mirrorless next summer and sell my 5d3s but until then after the weddingseason is over im really tempted to sell one of the 5d3s and buy a 5ds(r) for portraits just to try it out. Great video man
5DSR is the best Canon camera for stills. Hands down. Nothing can beat it. Maybe Canon can top it in 2022 but in 2021, a 2015 camera is still the best.
Agreed - 2015 technology and heavy quality build beating out the latest 2022 35mm models on image quality. L- lenses and this body with a little post processing and you can blow away a Hasselblad!
@9:07 Yes the color bit depth is better on the PENTAX 645D and PHASE ONE IQ280. I own all 3. Canon Pentax first, 5Ds second & Phase One third. Now I have all 3.
Thanks for confirming what I told myself, I just picked one up earlier this week!!!
Thanks for the review really help. I make short documentary films. But because of my health I plan to give up documentary films next year as I am currently commited to these projects but once the are complete I plan to sell all my gear and buy a canon 5DSR Body with EF lensses and go back to doing photography. Like you said on the used market they go for a steal and they are great photography cameras. It's not necessary to get the RF cameras as a 5DSR will be great for many years to come.
Spot on as usual Scott. Perfect setup for anyone looking to take the next step without remortgaging!! Some of the older Phase One backs have connectivity issues particularly if you’re using the latest Mac OS so these high megapixel 35mm systems make sense.
had a mark II for years black and white fine art landscape...bought the 5dsr and what a game changer...i print most of my images large format on german etching paper with an epson...old images pale by comparison ... your vid was excellent...thanks....
How would u compare the high iso performance of the 5dsr compared to your old 5dii? Im wondering if the 5dsr is as good or better.
I have four of these. I got two of them as soon as they came out and then two more later on thinking the first two were getting old and might break on me but, they never did.
I can’t find another camera I like better in that price point. Super sad that they may stop making these. (Shocked at the new price. I paid quite a bit more the ones I have) I was hoping they’d upgrade it to 80 mp though.
I bought and extra one and keep it as a spare - They like tripods, but for short handheld work on the go an experienced shooter has no issues. I too am sad that even Canon never realized that the RD SR is one the best 35MM cameras ever built!
This camera is for artists and perfectionists!
I always loved the 5dsr from afar .. sadly with the price points almost the same, I had to go with 5dm3 because i needed a few stops of iso in low light. Someday if this industry makes me money, I will get the 5dsr for studio (unless something better comes along). awesome vid . keep it coming
This cameras are great for studio work only of course.....after seeing the video I am thinking in getting some used one for the studio Thank you Scott
Great video! I also work with the 5dsr and its a trusty workhorse and im also very happy with the files, exept like you said, the red tones for colorcritical work. Skintones are nice too. Also the violet banding is fixed in comparaison to the 5dm3 when raising shadows. DR is only ok @ iso100-800 but i learned to work around these problems. I also use an Otus lens from Zeiss, and the difference is huge in comparasion with older glass. All in all for 900-1000bucks highly recommended👌
This is the best camera for prints no other canon can print like this camera at all
Fascinating stuff, chap! Reminds me of our geekouts we used to have!
I bought a 5DS that was advertised as a 5DSr with low shutter count. The reason I bought it was for the 50 MB files for landscape photography.
I still use the 5DSr in 2023 ..... and as a matter of fact I just bought a brand new one .......
Awesome informative video! Thanks for making it. It's exactly the info I was looking for.
My 5dsr is 7 years old and still my workhorse.
Great video, makes perfect sense. I'm looking at upgrading to a 5Ds to add to my RP and 5D Mark II. If you could have one mid-range lense for mainly portraiture, what would you choose? EF 85mm f/1.8 or 24-70 L f/2.8 or something else? Thanks!
great video Scott inspirational as always
Great comments. I love both the 5dsr and 5ds, but Canon doesn't seem to be making them any more, and the major sellers don't have any, except used.
Man if you would make a course about how to rig that camera with cables into the computer and everything around that, and hence how to do the controlled shots, I think it would sell like the hot cakes. I would buy it directly.
I had a drink every time you said “go to camera” ffs.
Nice rundown! Interesting stuff.
Great review. Fascinating. Many Thanks! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic practical review of the cameras - combined with your earlier video about pro gear - convinced me to invest in a slightly used 5DS-R and 5DS over the R5 / forthcoming R5S. Be great to get an appreciation for the TS-E lenses ( especially in studio work vs architecture ?)
What’s better the 5ds or the 5dsr
Love using this camera
Hi Scott! Wondering what your thoughts are on the new Fuji GFX100S which basically comes at 6.000 USD with a medium format 100 MP sensor. I know you don't usually comment on new gear releases, but since you mentioned a number of medium format options I thought I'd ask...
I'm considering one too. Waiting to find a used one with its primes. Bass 7a22a dakke.
@@EpicsodeOne it's a mouth watering camera from what I've seen, and yes it's coming close to full frame prices but it's still a lot of money!
@@fadiheterjag Yyap.
looking forward to this one
Hope its useful for you
5Ds is an amazing value for a studio still life, got a used body for €500 few months ago. I’m curious, what’s your method of using a Colorchecker with C1?
If 5DSR has a bit sharper edges than 5DS, i suppose those edges not only require less sharpening, but survive noise reduction better, cut through the noise so to say.
Is that correct?
So you say its better to use this camera on a tripod and not to good on hand held? Just because im thinking to upgrade my canon 6D.... but im watching all the reviews.... so what you think? i do a lot of product shoot with tripod, but some good part of the time i do model photos with the camera on my hand. The new price its super super interesting for the image quality right?
I use my 5ds handheld all the time. It's fantastic. Image quality is superb. This camera will last me several more years. I'm actually going to buy a second one soon. I went from the 6D to the 5ds. You'll absolutely love it. Definitely worth it!
You get grid + level in the view finder with 5ds (activate it), you won't have any problems handheld...
I walked that path a couple years ago (from 6D to 5ds) and I'd say it's a big improvement, but I'd also say be careful while shooting handheld. Nothing dramatic, but when you shoot on a tripod you'll notice the difference.
To get the best results from 5DSr,( Perceptual Megapixels ) I thought I read somewhere ( DXOMark) that with the Canon TS-E 17mm f/4 L lens mounted, the results were very good. ( 45 megapixels ) Cannot seem to find that article. I currently have Canon glass: 50 mm 1.4, 16-35 1.4 L, 24-70 2.8 L ver2, 70-200 2.8 L ver2.
Without spending buckets of cash, what lens would give you the best results for landscape photos.( getting the best use out of the 50 megapixel sensor). Thanks, Dave
Loved this vids. Can I ask if anyone knows of a good L bracket for these cams? I shoot interiors on one and need something that will allow me to thether the cam via usb and still use the bracket in portrait orientation.
Hi! Is someone here who can help me please! I have canon 5dsr! Don’t know what’s happened, can’t change the Focus! When I’m going in meniu and try to set it manually it’s stuck on 0 zero and have no chance to move it! Maybe was switched on some functions which blocked this one? Thank you
What a privilege to witness this video. Can you tell me what you mean by "medium format gives 'extra space' in post-production" means, please?
Thank you!
When it comes to chop chop, a big sensor (bigger film format) always has better images.
Relative to the 5DM4, is the 5DS / 5DSR significantly different in image quality (based upon cost and application)?
I had Both.. (5D4 and 5DsR).. and the 5DsR its far sharper than the 5D4... for studio work its superior..
which lenses are you using ?? please do let me know
100 mm Zeiss Milvus Makro Plannar f2
Which zeis lens did you use! @ Tim House Studio
I am not a professional photographer but for animals photo end real estate I 5dsr vs 5d mark 4
Nice video thanks. What would you recommend for good EF mount lenses for the 5dsr that don't cost a fortune or may be picked up used at a good savings? (I just picked up a 5dsr.)
Exact name and model of the lenses?
Might I ask am planning on using the a7siii it's a 12 megapixel for stop motion and I mainly want to upload for social media. Any advice? As well any lenses focal length you'd recommend ?
If this is for stop motion animation, then you’d be better off with purchasing an older dslr like 6d mki or 5d mkiii. The a7siii is more of a video camera. A camera made for stills would be better to use for stop motion animation, more details and resoluton.
@@a.m.lorenzo4457 agreed it was made to shoot video not still images so they made it very low megapixel count to save space
How is it in sport photography?
Not ideal, but not unusable
Is it true that the 5DSR is noisier at base ISO (100) and has less dynamic range than its competitors (Pentax K-1, Nikon D850, Sony A7R, etc)?
It’s a noise monster compared to the Sony and Nikon. No experience with the Pentax.
@@lindsaywebb1904
Ok. Thank you. 👍🏻
@@mauriciolacruz still a great camera, and the only camera in town for architecture (imo) before stepping into view cameras. It just has to be managed because there isn’t much latitude in the shadows.
@@lindsaywebb1904
Yes, I read that time ago. Thanks. 👍🏻
That's gonna hurt my bank account 😂
35mm is full frame...
ATG was correct on predictions over 16 years ago:
Olympus 4/3 will be dead
Olympus m4/3 will be dead also
Sony A-mount will go into the history books
Pocket Wizard will be holding on
Quantum Instrument will be in trouble
You only have photo-cheaters & photo-editors, not photographers
Photographers closing their studios
Photographers are leaving the fields due to many beginners & amateurs underbids them
Paul Buff will be reaching out to ATG/Asia to make their monolight.
Hundreds of employees from photo companies/stores are let go
Canon in 2025 will be closing the EOS & EF
Nikon in 2024 will be closing F-mount & AI