2022 Jayco Pinnacle 32RLTS, I like the Jayvoice, especially if you enter the RV in the dark, Say "Jayco" pause " living room Lights" and they come on. Great when your hands are full. Also, works great going to the dark bedroom. Works well in my opinion. One downfall, maybe...is it will not recognize my wife's voice....LOL It has selective hearing 🤪
This is absolutely perfect ... If it didn't have floor vents. But even with them, I still wouldn't say no. Any nitpicks I have are very minimal. 👍✅✔👌✔✅👍 #nerdherd #rvnerdherd I just love the separation of the spaces, the placement and size of the appliances, and the thoughtful way it's been set up, with some great storage. (In the 'stowing' seats I'd have stuff I wanted to keep away from the kids. High up is no good, I think my kid grew up part monkey) #nerdherd #rvnerdherd I expect to see you in Strictly Come Dancing in the next season! 😂
Nice. One of the few times I don't have some nit-picky criticism, though the Schwintek bed slide could be pointed to (but far better than a cable slide). I really like the back end, looks like a Class A.
I’m pretty sure you were on my flight from Fort Wayne to Dallas this morning. I hoped to catch you to let you know how much I enjoy your channel, unfortunately I missed you when we deplaned. Keep up the good work!
Love this Rv! Love the hard wood cabinets. Love the colors. I would get this with full body paint. Love the bedroom. Nice to have all that space. Thank Josh big fan of this Rv!
I agree, I love this model. I'm thinking I might order one, I have always wanted full body paint but the new standard body looks really good. To me, it might look even better than full body paint. Plus the paint has already been out a few years. I wish they updated that also. But I am truly struggling on weather or not to order FBP.. oh, the decisions!! 😂
Hey Josh, another great walk through. This would have been our new RV but we couldn't get passed the toe stubber kitchen and floor vents. So after 2 Jayco RVs we're waiting for our Brinkley to arrive.
Z2900 for the larger floor space in the washroom, closet at the entrance and North South bed for night tables and more quiet for sleeping@@JoshtheRVNerd
I think they do the toe kicker slide in the kitchen because it gives them more room to add bigger water/waste tanks underneath. Correct me if I am wrong. This is a beautiful 5er!!
I love the full-sized king bed and the 6-point leveling system in a shorter 5th wheel, and I like the high quality and finish. Camp side windows are superb, table and chairs are best, and I am so happy they also included a convection microwave. The TP holder inside the under-sink door is the same as our Newmar and it is great, you will love it. As for colors, I guess Diamond, but I wish manufactures would use more blue tones. If we were 5th wheel people, this would be high on the list. Oh, it does have a sexy looking rearend.
Good evening, Josh. I'm looking at this Pinnacle after listening to you and JD the other night and what you said about Pinnacle. I like this little guy. For its size it has a lot to offer. When you talked about "shaving down the bed platform,' that got my ears to perk up. Unfortunately, I don't have my hubby any longer and really don't even need a queen. But I do believe that the box supporting the bed platform is about the size of a standard full-size bed. Would it be possible to 'shave down" the bed plate form to the same size as the box underneath it and put a standard full size bed mattress on it? That would allow for a lot of walking room around it and some really awesome little nightstands. What do you think?
Really nice rig. I wish Jayco would install low profile ac units from either Dometic or Mach 8. I'd expect that from their top of the line models. Also, is this on a BAL or Lippert frame?
I'm not familiar with any BIG fifth wheels like these on a BAL frame. the FWs I have seen on a BAL frame were typically smaller and nearly no FW builders use that now Sorry - short answer: Lippert frame Each mfg has lippert make their frames to their specs. About 6 years ago jayco had an issue with a north point model flexing. They had lippert add extra bulking to prevent it on ALL their floor plans. Not a coincidence jayco frames are heavier in weight, more costly, and their name has been all but absent from flex conversations
I could do without the shelf thing by the table (I know it would lose the outside tv too - not an issue), and chairs and just have a freestanding table with 4 chairs with storage in the seats. I HATE THE PLEATHER! Plenty of room in the bedroom as we would opt for a Queen
Thanks for the review! Very helpful. I am looking at this unit, would you get the abs with sway control or the independent suspension with disc breaks? Thanks!
Anyone else but me seeing the open mouth face on the cabinet above the “coffee counter”?? 🤣🤣🤣 looks kind of like this -> 😃 except a square mouth and the handles make the eyes. 🤣
Wow! Josh if that's the smallest of Jayco's Luxury line of RV's what else can Jayco do? Looks Great so far👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊 I'm going to finish watching the rest of of your review l8tr 2day👍😊
@@alanb.4660 thanks! I have an f150 but feel like if a 250 can't pull this then idk about the RV life. I can't see affording a 350 nor would I want to, they are not good looking trucks imo
@joshthervnerd, there is an option for a 3rd awning for the 32RLTS, can you please explain where that is located by chance. Appreciate the video, always looking forward to see what you are reviewing.
Question on door window shade… why do you prefer it to be bottom up? In my camper, the door shades were that way, I flipped them to be top down. What is the advantage of it being top down?
ok, i have to know how your keeping the bed locked in the up position? i have seen you do this on our model the jayco 25rb and i dont see how it is locked in the up position. ya, i’m a newbie.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Regardless of make or model, I think they all should be located on the rear bumper or inside a storage compartment for easy access and have two of them for redundancy and safety. I guess I must be the nerdy nerd of the class, because about three or four years ago, my son and I drove from IL to TX with the cargo trailer to pick up the family sleigh 🛷 and we had two flats in two days both left sides with only one spare. Obviously I had to buy tires and rims so after that experience I don’t want to pull a trailer without a minimum of two spares. Perhaps I’m gun shy now or just overly prepfull; regardless having a flat on I-35 or anywhere else isn’t pleasant. And being a 55 year old old fart with more of a spare tire dad bod than you, It’s getting hard to move around on the ground, so don’t knock yourself down; you’re still a pup yet but you’ll graduate with the rest of us old timers and catch up. 😆That’s why I can appreciate things like spare tires 🛞 in convenient places. Let’s meet sometime for pizza and Coors Light. First round on me. Thanks for everything you do professor. I believe you are changing the industry. I enjoy being in your class. Cheers 🍻
Spare works great...just like a truck spare. I've had them on bumper and in basement...underneath is the best. 17.5" tires you only need one spare...not two.
Hey Josh...your suggestion was Perfect!!! Love it....just change bathroom fan and for Me change out gold hardware. Nearly Perfect!! Thanks alot Josh! 🤗💙
Pro Tip...Face forward when in road mode and trying to get to frig. Much easier to hang gut on and over the ledge facing forward than rubbing gut against the slide edge.
Voice command is a kool feature. Love the special water to the tap and fridge. Actually the air conditioner noise doesn't bother me at all. We had a drop at type right over the sink stove area. So it was right above my head while I cooked and washed dishes. It never bothered me. Night light are a nessary in rural areas, I use them in my house now, one in each bedroom, kitchen, bathrooms and even 2 in each end of my T shaped hall. Yeah queen bed, I'd still prefer a double for 1 person, but it's still kool being able to have a real queen. Washer/dryer please! I don't like 5th wheels but this one ticks off my entire list of wants! Only downfall is the steps to the bathroom. Is it possible to take out the steps and put like a Tommy lift that goes up when you step on it stays up untill you step on it again to get back down? Generator yes and the largest Solar package I can get! Of course I'd have the factory third air. Not that I'd run all three at once, I only use the one air in the area I'm in. So how cold/hot will this model be safe in for an extended peroid of time?
This floor plan has been out for quite a while so there’s definitely plenty of people with one. Though a properly equipped single rear wheel 1 ton could work I think a dually is the smarter and safer answer overall
We feel this is the competitor to Brinkley. Look at that front cap storage area. It’s all boxy and unusable. Might as well get the gen at that point. No more chair storage. Still Our Fav…
Someone on a different channel was doing a review of an RV which had sticker wrapped draws. The first one he pulled out had the sticker pulling away from the particle board. He said "Oh! They'll fix that when you pick yours up." Or words to that effect. He went onto say that a sticker covering the pulp was an "upgrade". Really? He had to be kidding me! It's the worst crud possible. Ok. So the price was $25k below this one, but the extra cost here is well worth it.
I wanted a GD but because of all the "Frame Flex" issues I have decided the Jayco would be better. I cant find any newer (few years old) videos or anybody complaining bout frame flex in a Jayco. I don't know about their customer service but if there is no frame flex, hopefully we don't have to use them to find out!
@@JoshtheRVNerd: No, Josh, all three of my FW’s were Kestone products. But, if you look up countless videos of their brand new fifth wheels being torn apart due to frames cracking, (which I actually believe it is due to our shi&$y freeways and highways,) it is a serious problem, which could hurt not just the person towing it, but others beside, behind said vehicle. I honestly don’t even know why I care about this, as we are downsizing to either an Ember or Geo Pro, but the video evidence is clear. The company who welds the frame for their fifth wheels is not competent. Watching today work force, it’s no surprise.
“Frame flex” is designed into most all wheeled chassis’s. Some flexing must happen to prevent a sort of rock on rock outcome. “Frame FAILURE” is a different beast. A very large number of 5th wheels with frame failure in the gooseneck area have been in older RVs and the majority were second owners. Not an excuse, just laying out the stats I’ve found. Having an overloaded unit, especially in that over-cab area, can cause this. An overweight condition period can contribute. Seems a significant number of folks don’t get on a CAT scale to weigh their GVWR and the axles. Some load the storage areas well beyond that GVWR and don’t balance that cargo. BTW, with the reading I’ve done Grand Design has the majority of complaints. In fact, I’ve only come across a couple of Jayco’s. I feel for these second owners. They have no idea how the unit was driven (rough roads, etc, are no no’s) and they’ve no idea how long that first owner drove it overloaded. I feel for them.
Mine is sitting in my backyard right now. Delivered three weeks ago.
It’s a beautiful thing, retiring in May and hitting the road.
Wow congrats!
@@davehuber6949
I thank you for spamming my comment with your own troubles. I haven’t had a single issue with mine.
Perfect floorplan and RV as equipped👍👍👍with no “1950’s diner” booth dinette or Dollar Store 4” fart fan💥💥💥
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 32RLTS, I like the Jayvoice, especially if you enter the RV in the dark, Say "Jayco" pause " living room Lights" and they come on. Great when your hands are full. Also, works great going to the dark bedroom. Works well in my opinion. One downfall, maybe...is it will not recognize my wife's voice....LOL It has selective hearing 🤪
Don't we all when it comes to our wives? LOL!
Really? Only recognizes one voice? That's super weird
Have your wife try Jayco - lights.
Say nothing else and see if that works
know problem with female voices@@JoshtheRVNerd
doesn't work for her...tried 10 times or more at different tones volumes etc.@@TheDesertdawg1
This is absolutely perfect ... If it didn't have floor vents. But even with them, I still wouldn't say no. Any nitpicks I have are very minimal. 👍✅✔👌✔✅👍
#nerdherd #rvnerdherd
I just love the separation of the spaces, the placement and size of the appliances, and the thoughtful way it's been set up, with some great storage.
(In the 'stowing' seats I'd have stuff I wanted to keep away from the kids. High up is no good, I think my kid grew up part monkey) #nerdherd #rvnerdherd
I expect to see you in Strictly Come Dancing in the next season! 😂
Nice. One of the few times I don't have some nit-picky criticism, though the Schwintek bed slide could be pointed to (but far better than a cable slide). I really like the back end, looks like a Class A.
👍🏻 it really does
I’m pretty sure you were on my flight from Fort Wayne to Dallas this morning. I hoped to catch you to let you know how much I enjoy your channel, unfortunately I missed you when we deplaned. Keep up the good work!
That was me! I’m over at A11 for a bit if you’re around
Sorry I missed you. I actually have some stickers on me just in case I bumped into someone
The bathroom storage area is always way too deep anyway so it makes sense to integrate the space into the pantry! Really like this model!
Ty!
Flat ceiling 👍
With that many windows, needs power shades 👍 I don't need to skip arm day
I could see the power shades in something like this actually
At 5:10 was hoping you would straighten the pendant light📏🚥🚦
I like the diamond and steel.
I do too
Love this Rv! Love the hard wood cabinets. Love the colors. I would get this with full body paint. Love the bedroom. Nice to have all that space. Thank Josh big fan of this Rv!
I agree, I love this model. I'm thinking I might order one, I have always wanted full body paint but the new standard body looks really good. To me, it might look even better than full body paint. Plus the paint has already been out a few years. I wish they updated that also. But I am truly struggling on weather or not to order FBP.. oh, the decisions!! 😂
Which paint package would you get?
@@JoshtheRVNerd The gray paint full body paint!
Hey Josh, another great walk through. This would have been our new RV but we couldn't get passed the toe stubber kitchen and floor vents. So after 2 Jayco RVs we're waiting for our Brinkley to arrive.
On congrats! A Z or a G?
Z2900 for the larger floor space in the washroom, closet at the entrance and North South bed for night tables and more quiet for sleeping@@JoshtheRVNerd
Brinkley has the sway control, ABS and all.
Yep. Same system on the G’s
I think they do the toe kicker slide in the kitchen because it gives them more room to add bigger water/waste tanks underneath. Correct me if I am wrong. This is a beautiful 5er!!
It can definitely help
I like the sand finish.
Ty
Could put books, newspapers, small games and such in the dining chairs. Where would you put a CPAP? The shelves beside the bed don't look big enough.
They wouldn’t fit on those stands for sure. You’ll need to come up with a solution like a little bedside stand
I do like the Pinnacles. Very nice looking. Thanks for the great review.
Thanks for watching!
I love the full-sized king bed and the 6-point leveling system in a shorter 5th wheel, and I like the high quality and finish. Camp side windows are superb, table and chairs are best, and I am so happy they also included a convection microwave. The TP holder inside the under-sink door is the same as our Newmar and it is great, you will love it. As for colors, I guess Diamond, but I wish manufactures would use more blue tones. If we were 5th wheel people, this would be high on the list. Oh, it does have a sexy looking rearend.
Ty so much!
Very nice 5th wheel! I think the sand color is a show stopper! Very little not to love here. ❤
I agree with you
Good evening, Josh. I'm looking at this Pinnacle after listening to you and JD the other night and what you said about Pinnacle. I like this little guy. For its size it has a lot to offer. When you talked about "shaving down the bed platform,' that got my ears to perk up. Unfortunately, I don't have my hubby any longer and really don't even need a queen. But I do believe that the box supporting the bed platform is about the size of a standard full-size bed. Would it be possible to 'shave down" the bed plate form to the same size as the box underneath it and put a standard full size bed mattress on it? That would allow for a lot of walking room around it and some really awesome little nightstands. What do you think?
Unsure on going smaller than a queen but our folks may be able to measure that up for you
Really nice rig. I wish Jayco would install low profile ac units from either Dometic or Mach 8. I'd expect that from their top of the line models. Also, is this on a BAL or Lippert frame?
I'm not familiar with any BIG fifth wheels like these on a BAL frame. the FWs I have seen on a BAL frame were typically smaller and nearly no FW builders use that now
Sorry - short answer: Lippert frame
Each mfg has lippert make their frames to their specs. About 6 years ago jayco had an issue with a north point model flexing. They had lippert add extra bulking to prevent it on ALL their floor plans. Not a coincidence jayco frames are heavier in weight, more costly, and their name has been all but absent from flex conversations
I could do without the shelf thing by the table (I know it would lose the outside tv too - not an issue), and chairs and just have a freestanding table with 4 chairs with storage in the seats. I HATE THE PLEATHER! Plenty of room in the bedroom as we would opt for a Queen
Thanks for the review! Very helpful. I am looking at this unit, would you get the abs with sway control or the independent suspension with disc breaks? Thanks!
Unless I were going down steep inclines I’d stick with the abs
Anyone else but me seeing the open mouth face on the cabinet above the “coffee counter”?? 🤣🤣🤣 looks kind of like this -> 😃 except a square mouth and the handles make the eyes. 🤣
Well now I can’t unsee it..
I really love this one, we’re looking to buy in 2025 ❤
We'll be ready when you are!
Wow! Josh if that's the smallest of Jayco's Luxury line of RV's what else can Jayco do? Looks Great so far👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊 I'm going to finish watching the rest of of your review l8tr 2day👍😊
Thanks 👍
I was wondering if this would be ideal for an f250?
nope, would be over payload unless you have a 2wd, single cab, gasser, with no passengers.
@@alanb.4660 thanks! I have an f150 but feel like if a 250 can't pull this then idk about the RV life. I can't see affording a 350 nor would I want to, they are not good looking trucks imo
What? What difference is there between a 250 and 350 other than payload?
Josh, i seen the video all the blocks fit in the square hole. 😂😂
Hahaha I know exactly the video you mean!
Can you please do a video like this on the new 2025 38KPTS
I can't promise to get to it QUICKLY but I will get that one for you!
@joshthervnerd, there is an option for a 3rd awning for the 32RLTS, can you please explain where that is located by chance.
Appreciate the video, always looking forward to see what you are reviewing.
There is not as it turns out
You are correct, the page I was looking at was an archived and for an older model. Sorry for the trouble.
Question on door window shade… why do you prefer it to be bottom up? In my camper, the door shades were that way, I flipped them to be top down. What is the advantage of it being top down?
With it halfway up from the bottom you really maintain privacy while still being able to peek up/out easily
good video josh
Ty!
#RVNerdHerd 🎉 😊 🎉
ok, i have to know how your keeping the bed locked in the up position? i have seen you do this on our model the jayco 25rb and i dont see how it is locked in the up position. ya, i’m a newbie.
Pinnacle beds have struts to hold them up. Feathers do as well.
No worries about being new. Ask lots of questions. I’ll do my best to help
This is beautiful! Road mode isn't bad. At least you can get to the bathroom.
yep yep!
Indeed very nice.
Thank you kindly
Diamond paint preferably
Lovely unit. Seems to be perhaps a worthy competitor to Brinkley in many respects.
This is a little more in line with what something like the Brinkley model R will be like next year or so
What is the pin weight
2395 pounds
3200 lbs. scaled pin weight for me with Generator and 4 x 6 volt batteries upfront loaded to camp.
We prop our emergency window up. With a stick
lol whatever's clever!
Nice rig. Hate that the spare is underneath 😞
Where would you prefer it?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Regardless of make or model, I think they all should be located on the rear bumper or inside a storage compartment for easy access and have two of them for redundancy and safety. I guess I must be the nerdy nerd of the class, because about three or four years ago, my son and I drove from IL to TX with the cargo trailer to pick up the family sleigh 🛷 and we had two flats in two days both left sides with only one spare. Obviously I had to buy tires and rims so after that experience I don’t want to pull a trailer without a minimum of two spares. Perhaps I’m gun shy now or just overly prepfull; regardless having a flat on I-35 or anywhere else isn’t pleasant. And being a 55 year old old fart with more of a spare tire dad bod than you, It’s getting hard to move around on the ground, so don’t knock yourself down; you’re still a pup yet but you’ll graduate with the rest of us old timers and catch up. 😆That’s why I can appreciate things like spare tires 🛞 in convenient places. Let’s meet sometime for pizza and Coors Light. First round on me. Thanks for everything you do professor. I believe you are changing the industry. I enjoy being in your class. Cheers 🍻
Spare works great...just like a truck spare. I've had them on bumper and in basement...underneath is the best. 17.5" tires you only need one spare...not two.
@@alanb.4660 after a trip from IL to TX with my cargo trailer and having two flats in two days, I always travel with two spares on my trailers now.
Love Jayco
Why has everyone not gone to the pullout storage behind the shower wall making it much more convenient so you’re not reaching way back to find stuff?
Probably costs and extra six bucks lol
This is Beautiful but bigger than we want. Would you suggest some high quality options around 30 to 32 feet? Thank you so much Josh!! 😊
Maybe something like this? ua-cam.com/video/JkOrP18MoBw/v-deo.html
Hey Josh...your suggestion was Perfect!!! Love it....just change bathroom fan and for Me change out gold hardware. Nearly Perfect!! Thanks alot Josh! 🤗💙
Pro Tip...Face forward when in road mode and trying to get to frig. Much easier to hang gut on and over the ledge facing forward than rubbing gut against the slide edge.
love it. ty lol :)
I take soft fabric anyday. Same for my vehicles
My 2022 32RLTS, with Gen, and 4 x6 volt batteries scaled pin weight 3200 lbs. Pulling with a Dually and would recommend to others to do the same.
That's great input ty. I think dually on pinnacles makes sense
Whoever invented the "no wasted space" front cap configuration deserves a promotion. 💯
It's fantastic!!
Voice command is a kool feature. Love the special water to the tap and fridge. Actually the air conditioner noise doesn't bother me at all. We had a drop at type right over the sink stove area. So it was right above my head while I cooked and washed dishes. It never bothered me. Night light are a nessary in rural areas, I use them in my house now, one in each bedroom, kitchen, bathrooms and even 2 in each end of my T shaped hall. Yeah queen bed, I'd still prefer a double for 1 person, but it's still kool being able to have a real queen. Washer/dryer please! I don't like 5th wheels but this one ticks off my entire list of wants! Only downfall is the steps to the bathroom. Is it possible to take out the steps and put like a Tommy lift that goes up when you step on it stays up untill you step on it again to get back down? Generator yes and the largest Solar package I can get! Of course I'd have the factory third air. Not that I'd run all three at once, I only use the one air in the area I'm in. So how cold/hot will this model be safe in for an extended peroid of time?
They test from 0 to 100. They may be capable of more but I cannot say for sure
Is anyone towing this rig yet, if so what size truck. Do not want to buy the wrong one.
This floor plan has been out for quite a while so there’s definitely plenty of people with one. Though a properly equipped single rear wheel 1 ton could work I think a dually is the smarter and safer answer overall
If you could alternate Jvoice to Siri would be awesome
Oooh..
Like Alexa!
We feel this is the competitor to Brinkley. Look at that front cap storage area. It’s all boxy and unusable. Might as well get the gen at that point. No more chair storage. Still Our Fav…
Sand color
Someone on a different channel was doing a review of an RV which had sticker wrapped draws. The first one he pulled out had the sticker pulling away from the particle board. He said "Oh! They'll fix that when you pick yours up." Or words to that effect. He went onto say that a sticker covering the pulp was an "upgrade". Really? He had to be kidding me! It's the worst crud possible. Ok. So the price was $25k below this one, but the extra cost here is well worth it.
Man even a lot of basic BASIC level trailers still use plywood drawers. Particle board drawers is a very conscious choice
@@JoshtheRVNerd Indeed so.
We both need to find time to "work out"!! 😂
I'll work out... how to get some tacos for lunch..
@JoshtheRVNerd Stop!! Your making me hungry!
Oooo jash...u cannot compare "similar models " because Jayco is the "2+3 YEAR KING"..sorry u can guess I have a Jayco
lol
Maybe 310RLTS North Point then :)
Looks like they ripped off Brinkley!🤔
Jayco tryin to look like Brinkley
Nice try...
🎉#NerdHerd...
Pretty aggressive pricing.
I think they have some crazy factory-forced pricing policies. Often our sale price figures are blow what we're allowed to even advertise
Smallest lightest 16000lbs. 😂. What are you smoking?
It's the smallest and lightest of the Pinnacle lineup. They get quite large quickly from here
After watching countless videos here on the tube about “frame flex”, I would never buy a Pinnacle. Their customer service is pretty lousy.
would love to hear and example of an issue you have had with Jayco?
Have you personally had experience with their team? They recently were ranked as one of the very best and most responsive teams in fifth wheels
I wanted a GD but because of all the "Frame Flex" issues I have decided the Jayco would be better. I cant find any newer (few years old) videos or anybody complaining bout frame flex in a Jayco. I don't know about their customer service but if there is no frame flex, hopefully we don't have to use them to find out!
@@JoshtheRVNerd: No, Josh, all three of my FW’s were Kestone products. But, if you look up countless videos of their brand new fifth wheels being torn apart due to frames cracking, (which I actually believe it is due to our shi&$y freeways and highways,) it is a serious problem, which could hurt not just the person towing it, but others beside, behind said vehicle.
I honestly don’t even know why I care about this, as we are downsizing to either an Ember or Geo Pro, but the video evidence is clear.
The company who welds the frame for their fifth wheels is not competent.
Watching today work force, it’s no surprise.
“Frame flex” is designed into most all wheeled chassis’s. Some flexing must happen to prevent a sort of rock on rock outcome. “Frame FAILURE” is a different beast. A very large number of 5th wheels with frame failure in the gooseneck area have been in older RVs and the majority were second owners. Not an excuse, just laying out the stats I’ve found. Having an overloaded unit, especially in that over-cab area, can cause this. An overweight condition period can contribute. Seems a significant number of folks don’t get on a CAT scale to weigh their GVWR and the axles. Some load the storage areas well beyond that GVWR and don’t balance that cargo. BTW, with the reading I’ve done Grand Design has the majority of complaints. In fact, I’ve only come across a couple of Jayco’s. I feel for these second owners. They have no idea how the unit was driven (rough roads, etc, are no no’s) and they’ve no idea how long that first owner drove it overloaded. I feel for them.