Pro Tour Battle for Zendikar Semifinals (Standard): Ryoichi Tamada vs. Jon Finkel
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- It's Japan versus the United States as the legendary Jon Finkel tries to make yet another Pro Tour finals. Standing in his way? Ryoichi Tamada and his Jeskai deck.
Tamada's sideboard plan was absolutely insane. Almost his whole sideboard in and choosing to draw -- some crazy preparation must have gone into coming with that plan.
Lmao. "Someone who is the best... against someone who isn't..."
Way to make a guy lose all confidence.
I know I’m 8 years late but holy shit ahhahahahaha
I like Tamada. I like that Finkel duresses him and he shows his hand, but then he's like, "not polite enough," so he goes back and turns the cards around for Finkel, but then he's like, "still not polite enough," so he goes back again and fans them out.
That's incredible to see Finkel still playing so well, even though he doesn't take the game nearly as seriously as he once did 15+ years ago. He's the one guy who the game just can't pass by.
NOTE: I realize he didn't win this match, but top 4 of a Standard Pro Tour is still an incredible feat for the legend of the game.
I was fortunate enough to play a casual game with Jon Finkel and he is intimidating to play because of how fast he plays, and how he presents himself but he was very friendly (but quiet) and I thanked him for the opportunity for the game and it was pretty cool, he helped me after with some game play stuff and he was encouraging but also still in a way that helped me fix a few mistakes down the line
what the hell was that intro
+Carter Bergeron yeah what a dick thing to say lol i mean i laughed but i shouldn't have
+Cody Culp thought the same.. its not only a dick thing to say.. it may not even be true
+Carter Bergeron I mean, like it or not it's still kinda true, Jon is easily the best person to ever play the game, just statistically. And look, it didn't matter. Tamada mopped the floor with Jon in games 2 and 3.
***** Still a rude way to say it.
Carter Bergeron Fair, but the magic community is kind of full of rude people xD.
Someone who is the best player of all time against someone who isn't, but will it matter? What an idiotic thing to say.
That's rich hagon for you....so lame
Alex Davis I find it funny that he loses
Seriously. This guy actually has skills,whereas Rich is just a shitty announcer who barely knows the game. It baffles me that he lasted as long as he did with those kind of remarks.
yes it matters. it makes the gameplay more interesting knowing the players background.
@@nehuenbec 100% they set up a classic underdog match and most people instantly choose a favorite. It definitely made the match more interesting and I don’t get why people can’t understand that
The commentators talked up Finkel heeeeeaps and I kinda enjoyed watching Tamada win
Same here. I instantly rooted for him after that remark.
Coverage sucks. Uncalled for and useless remark
@@DiabloTommaso coverage was fine, I think he was THE number one player in the world so it isn’t uncalled for. Coverage is there to make a story as well as explain what’s going on and why the players are doing what they are doing.
@@AIMLESS-NAMELESS you didnt get my point. Yes you can say one is the best without talking shit about the opponent. The only good point of coverage is lsv explanation. It s ok if you know the game
I think the commentators wanted to blow .. Jon Finkel 😳
the feeling is that tamada has practiced a lot more jeskai mirrors than finkel did. i'm absolutely sure the sideboard mindgames were not an improvisation . you don't chose to be on the draw without EXCELLENT reasons to do it
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+Eyeforaneye So what WOULD the excellent reasons to do it in the context of this match? I ask because I just wanna learn a little more about the meta game and im sure after a while I COULD come up with the reasons but Id like to incite some discussion so ALL of us can understand it. :)
@@H3x2nerd the one on the play is generally who dictates the pace of the game, they play a threat and the one on the draw has to answer it. Tamada's sideboard plan was to go from a midrange deck designed to drop threats, to a deck that can answer whatever Finkel played. Therefore, he gained not only a card for going on the draw, but he gained the ability to react to Finkel, by allowing Finkel to play his threats first.
Wait... did we just see Tamada outplay Jon Finkel?
Damn,the better you are in Magic and dedicated to it,the more fun these matches feel.Great games!
Insanely good G1 and brilliant sideboarding from Tamada in G2 and G3.
Tamada still blows my mind, his play in this pro tour was amazing!
I have no idea what's going on but it's pretty interesting.
I loved this matchup. Super fun to watch.
Can they just never have rich hagon do commentary? Captain Obvious, that one.
I absolutely hate the dude for the idiotic shit that spews from his mouth.
Agreed. That guy is awful.
@@oddjob4212 he's an older version of Riley Knight
This was one of the first pro games I ever watched, when I was first getting into mtg. While I didn’t understand everything that was going on, I understood how well Tamada played and how next-level his transformational sideboard was. The flip cards, the graveyard use, the manifests, attacking, counter magic, this game had it all and I was hooked.
I hate watching Arena. Part of me getting hooked on mtg was the art of physically handling the cards.
This game made me such a fan of Tamada myself, and was also right when I was getting into MTG. I had the Jeskai deck from that era, and it was so amazing watching the skill level of this guy.
Back when standard was fun... :( I miss khans
The intro was so bad Rich Hagon
He must brush his teeth with poop,cause everything he says is shit.
What a great game 1
Spoiler Alert. Finkle is Einhorn.
meowsthi einhorn is a man oh my god
Lmao,yes!
Like most 90s media, and you, this has not improved with time.
If finkle played that monastery he might of had a shot
I am kinda new to magic so forgive my ignorance, but I thought you could only have 1 planeswalker of the same type out at a time. How did Tamada get to play 2 Gideon, Ally of Zendikars?
Jon played a Dig Through Time in response to the second gideon then after it was resloved he got rid of the other.
How much people did compete in this pro tour?
+BananaBread 370 something I think.
Zendikar packs are defenitly worth a buy!
living a "jeskai-charmed life." oh the puns...
I don't want to watch the build up, just the final. If anybody bothered to watch could they post the result please, I want to know how Finkel did.
+Ashley kitchin
just watch it lazy
that was a crazy match
question, in game one Tamada plays a second gideon, ally of zendikar. would that not kill them both as they are both mythic rares?
I haven't seen a boneheaded misplay by a Finkel since Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.
I am not a great magic player but I did not understand Jon's rational by fetching for an untapped red source and then not casting Dragonmaster Outcast, if he was not going to use the mana I thought he should have just played the Mystic Monastery. Of course its easy to say "he should have done this" after seeing the result, but even when I was watching this live I thought that it was a strange play
Even if I got stomped, I would love to go against Jonny magic!
Since when are you alllowed to have 2 of the same planeswalkers on the field? (18:00)
+BananaBread He played a second one to trigger prowess on the seeker, it was sitting around because Finkel played a Dig in response
Some of their lands look like old cards but like I thought Standard was just the most recent sets, so what's up with that?
You can use older arts if the cards are still legal. Basic Lands are always legal so you can use any of them, same with non-basic lands and other cards. People like certain art
Common sense man, it can get you places
idk man, I would have played that monastery land and played the dragon master and just cross your fingers that Tamada didn't have a burn spell to answer the dragon master since you were already going to be dead on board in a heart beat...
Each time that Finkel make a move, drawing, playing, tapping. It's slow, but idk why I find that so intimidating.
People pace in this way to make it seem like they have answers.
lol Jon Finkel plays the wrong land to lose in the finals of the pro tour
it’s an out but LSV notes that it wouldn’t have helped
How can both players have an jace in game one?
I love tamada, he was my favourite player for this pro tour!
Question though: he played 2 Gideon's at the same time, but I thought you can only play one of the multiples at a time, can someone explain this?
He played it, but DTT was played as a response to it (since it's an instant) so it hadn't resolved yet. Then, it resolved after and the first one was removed.
P. de Phile oh ok, thanks
Jesse Lukes Anytime :)
game 1 was amazing
Definitely
couldn't finkel have flipped the mastery manifest and done the same as tamada? just producing manifests?
+screwthisnaming he can flip creatures only
+Serhiy Garnyk oh i didn't Know that,i thought all permanents
I thought there can't be the same planeswalker out on the battle field at the same time?
+nick poop you need to sacrifice one of your choice
How do you draw in a pro tour? O.o Finkel has 3 draws, anyone want to explain?
He was 12-1 which put him at 36 points. 37 points was a lock for top 8 so him and his last 3 opponents intentionally drew and got 3 points putting them at 40 and locking top 8
dig for fiery impulse+mantis instead of 2 mantis,fiery with prowess on the stack to kill the seeker then untap and mantis rider for the win in the first game
Tamada had already ultimated his Gideon. I suppose John could have dug in response to the Gideon ultimate.
@@380138013801 seeker is 2/2,+1/+1 from the emblem now a 3/3,tamada casts gideon and trigger prowess with no cards in hand,there is where finkel missplayed
@@Revengex2012 Finkel has to delve away his graveyard so fiery impulse loses spell mastery.
I agree there is a window, but it had to be in response to the Gideon ultimate
i have no clue what im watching just got into the game any tips to learn faster?
watch something basic this is not good for first tim
+good ghost kk thx just used to knowing every card in the set it's weird to start something new.
+Pokemonunboxed yeah I fell you.
Watching MTGO streams on Twitch is a good way to familiarize yourself with cards and interactions.
Play the game a lot too :p you will eventually start to learn all the cards names and what they do.
That must've been intentional... 11:24 "Kolacunts command..."
why would Jeskai play Canopy Vista when there are no green spells? Is it so you can have access to more variations of white with the fetchlands?
+snowren24 Yeah, he fact that there are only 5 fetches and battlelands now in standard means you have to get a little tricky with lands. he plays Canopy Vista so that his Wooded Foothills can fetch either red or white. He also play Cinder Glade so that Windswept Heath can get all 3 colors.
decklist?
Jon finkel is seto kaiba
+reservoir steve i missed the episode where seto kaiba donates money to charity
And I'll summon, the thunder break regent!!!!!!
*slams card onto table and then explains in painful detail what the card does*
Oh, 😢
Good game. But I hate it when people say sar-kin instead of sar-con. Sarkhan isn't an abzan member.
He is in my eyes :(
+joshua sanal It's Sar-Karn, not Sar-Con. Khan is pronounced 'karn'.
How can there be two Gideon's on the battlefield
+Ambush251 (assuming you are referring to 17:32)
The second Gideon is on the stack (which is why it does not have a dice yet).
The first one died as soon as it resolved (after Finkel finished resolving his Dig Through Time)
Finkel's got a terrible tell lol
game one was like out of yugioh or something.
g1 almost sickness
GG.
I love magic the gathering!
28:33 he says TOMATO lmao
Finkel looks tired as hell.
He should just shave his head his hair looks silly
This is some great shit. Game one
Tamada!! Take ur nails cut moderfaca!! :D
Tamada's fingernails...
Brian David-Marshall, I can't stand that guys voice. He sounds like how LSV would sound if he pinched his nose while speaking...
Pleassssse get new announcers.
what the fuck is this game, ?....
magic the gathering
Magic the gathering
Did you get lost on the way to watch yugioh?
So dull, pompous, and nothing like MTG used to be.
Sigh...how does the best player of mtg forget he can put seeker of the way's trigger on the stack, fiery impulse him before he becomes a 4/4 lifelink, and then attack with mantis rider for game. The misplays
+thechanpionofyugioh
Fiery impulse has spell mastery at this point, so it deals 3 damage, not 2
i am aware...what is your point?
what time in the game are you refering to?
17:12
oh, right
Jon only has dig and tasigur at that point in his hand?
Lol spoiler alert Abzan is op😀😀😀😀😀
+John Gles no it's not. it wasnt even the best deck in this match
Abzan? It was Jeskai vs Dark Jeskai...
+JayJayPea1 no like the finals it was also a joke
First?
+Yami -chan and you tube live stream
I DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING!!!! Why they dont tap lands like on MTG online? The caster dont explain what the cards do !!! Men this suck!! I like the game but you need to copy heartstone way of cast matches...
I strongly suggest you that you know every single card of these sets in order to understand properly.Usually MTG players who understand and love these matches are the ones that know pretty much most of the cards.If you don't it can be very tricky since they dont even zoom or anything.
i thought all planeswalkers were legendaries and if another comes into play the old one gets put in graveyard
That's correct. That's what happened.