Jon Finkel: The Greatest Player in Magic: The Gathering

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2011
  • In this episode we bring you a mini-biography of Jon Finkel's career as a Magic player.
    Interviews:
    Mark Rosewater
    Aaron Forsythe
    Brian David-Marshall
    Chris Pikula
    Steve O'Mahoney-Schwartz
    David Williams
    Jon Finkel
    Photos and multimedia provided by Wizards of the Coast.
    Music by Kevin MacLeod
    www.incompetech.com/
    #magicthegathering #mtg #insidethedeck
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  • @grabbity
    @grabbity 7 років тому +72

    watching this now cracks me up. "maybe one day fate will smile and I'll get another top 8." 5 top 8s later...

  • @fenot1992
    @fenot1992 10 років тому +118

    I like the part when they say "you know" :)

  • @Sylpharos
    @Sylpharos 17 днів тому +1

    This video was my introduction to Jon Finkel’s backstory a long time ago when I really first began to discover the pro magic scene and it made me a forever fan. I’m not sure it you guys still do mini-documentaries like this but after hearing the news today about Kai Budde it made me also wish there was something like this made for him to honor his legacy to the history of Magic. Thank you for making this video I’ve still never forgotten about it.

  • @Th0ughtf0rce
    @Th0ughtf0rce 3 роки тому +15

    I love how they credited Chris Pikula as "Meddling Mage"

  • @The_Red_Comet
    @The_Red_Comet 12 років тому +12

    One thing hasn't changed between his old and new videos: He still says "You know" a lot. :P

  • @krim7
    @krim7 6 років тому +10

    Since this video was published, he has gone on to be in the top 8 of six more major tournaments.

  • @adambutt5137
    @adambutt5137 6 років тому +47

    Undoubtedly Jon finkel is an incredible magic player but I feel like people too easily dismiss kai budde as a very serious contender for the title of best player ever

    • @peterrevilla1828
      @peterrevilla1828 3 роки тому +2

      Kai Budde is the best player ever. Period. But the video has to draw you in with its claim. Still, 2nd best ever is amazing too.

    • @gearsocfenix
      @gearsocfenix 3 роки тому

      @@peterrevilla1828 Finkel made a rip off of kai's wildfire deck that won world on year later!

    • @joe.5103
      @joe.5103 3 роки тому +5

      I honestly don’t get this argument. I grew up watching both but only Finkel has continued to demonstrate his prowess. Kai is amazing but hasn’t really put up any consistent PT results since he came back.
      Jon was a prodigy and while the average MTG player is way better now than 20 years ago, Jon has continued to grow and show he is still miles better than most pro players. Conversely, Kai did his best when mtg players were much worse on average.

    • @AIMLESS-NAMELESS
      @AIMLESS-NAMELESS 3 роки тому

      How can he be the best if I’ve never heard of him
      Edit and anyways pretty sure finkle was up for player of the year. And I watched it and did not notice this at all

    • @derrickpiche1119
      @derrickpiche1119 3 роки тому

      Especially when it's the Deck that wins.

  • @TheDriftingsmoke
    @TheDriftingsmoke 12 років тому +5

    Man, this video covers exactly what I love about this game.

  • @wehavemagnums
    @wehavemagnums 12 років тому +1

    Awesome to see the archive footage making its way in, your videos seem to be getting better, more interesting and better composed each time. I hope you get the chance to do more interviews with the greats and make more of these!

  • @NinjaDaemen
    @NinjaDaemen 8 років тому +5

    Amazing tech! Can't wait to play this!

  • @acquineus
    @acquineus 12 років тому +9

    I would love to see an exhibition match between all the hall of famers. Mark Rosewater and his team should design a special set just for that match, with the hall of famers as planeswalkers hehe. even if not, it would be awesome to see the decks, and the competition.

  • @dmm2315
    @dmm2315 12 років тому

    Excellent video. Look forward to many more!

  • @Jaryism
    @Jaryism 12 років тому +1

    It's cool that you can always look back at the awesome memories of him, great player to watch, good times

  • @_donny_9473
    @_donny_9473 6 років тому

    Thanks for sharing this!

  • @petersonkendon
    @petersonkendon 8 років тому +55

    drinking game: drink every time someone says "ya know."

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext 8 років тому

      +bob thesaget Ya know, it will be super hard ya know.

    • @petersonkendon
      @petersonkendon 8 років тому

      haha

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext 8 років тому +2

      bob thesaget
      I cant watch this ever again without only hearing the ya knows.

    • @petersonkendon
      @petersonkendon 8 років тому +1

      haha my bad.

    • @thisislesbomaya
      @thisislesbomaya 8 років тому +2

      +bob thesaget thats how Mark rosewater works

  • @mtl10
    @mtl10 12 років тому

    this video is awesome! definitely just added it to my favorites

  • @Lornext
    @Lornext 8 років тому +23

    I counted 68 "You know"s.

  • @iTadakimAsu85
    @iTadakimAsu85 7 років тому

    So many awesome memories going to Neutral Ground as a kid and a teenager...miss that place.

  • @SchmittySchmitz
    @SchmittySchmitz 12 років тому

    This was really good, Castle. Keep it up!

  • @zachoryfostor7368
    @zachoryfostor7368 Рік тому +2

    Also depends on the timing, when to play what spell, what cast is best for curval spells in a balanced deck, what plays well with others and what to sideboard, he is a genius no doubt! I am a long term yearly MTG vet and I understand how he works with his cards and what calls to you at the right times! You gotta look deeper into what you want and analyze the situations before you start, know what is the biggest out there and play against it, be different and learn the deck multiple times before you get out there.

  • @Poeman
    @Poeman 8 років тому +6

    I met the guy about 15 years ago and got 4 shadowmage's signed by Finkel. He's a nice and I'd say normal guy, I like how this video makes him out to be a legend in history lol

    • @JeffHoopAdventure
      @JeffHoopAdventure 7 років тому +11

      Poeman he's certainly a legend in the Magic community.

    • @chad0x
      @chad0x 2 роки тому +2

      He *is* a legend in history

    • @Poeman
      @Poeman 2 роки тому +1

      5 years later....yeah he is a legend 👏🏽

  • @ReMeDy_TV
    @ReMeDy_TV 6 років тому +5

    Wow, Jon playing Magic must have really made him an articulate person! It's like he took dating or speech courses to improve himself. I wouldn't have recognized him as a junior at all next to who he is today.

  • @TempusKing
    @TempusKing 12 років тому +27

    I like how even Jon Finkel himself admits he can just waltz into a tournament and win.

    • @aethertech
      @aethertech 6 років тому +8

      Jon Finkle, Louis Scott-Vargas, and Brian Kibler, all waltz into a tournament, who wins?
      The viewers.

    • @danacoleman4007
      @danacoleman4007 4 роки тому +2

      I thought we were talking about a card game, not dancing

    • @PlayWaves1
      @PlayWaves1 3 роки тому

      He said several times during this video that he’s lost.

    • @dellebelphine-moralez3510
      @dellebelphine-moralez3510 2 роки тому +1

      He’s basically the Yugi Muto of Magic

    • @namesurname7172
      @namesurname7172 Рік тому +1

      @@dellebelphine-moralez3510 Except he is real.

  • @aitshi
    @aitshi 11 років тому

    Yes, John. Now I know. Thank you for showing me the way.

  • @urparentsdivorcepapers
    @urparentsdivorcepapers 4 роки тому

    Wow also how incredibly humble he is about everything

  • @Pistone84
    @Pistone84 12 років тому

    Nice work!

  • @hottchikkillz16
    @hottchikkillz16 7 років тому +8

    I had the honer to play JF at a PTQ back in 98 it was just for funHe was playing the classic mono red burn...and I was playing a noob blk
    ed first strike knights and some burn cursed scrolls and volrath stronghold.I was nearly at deaths range for a fireblast but bottle nomes saved my ass for the win with scroll EPIC battle

    • @danacoleman4007
      @danacoleman4007 4 роки тому +2

      I'm just amazed you could play a game of magic and harmonica at the same time

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 4 роки тому +1

      next you can work on your spelling.

    • @hottchikkillz16
      @hottchikkillz16 3 роки тому

      @@lracseroom8286 grammar Nazi smh

  • @megaflippo1
    @megaflippo1 11 років тому

    Great Vid, great player, great person as it seems...

  • @StevenWilsonGP
    @StevenWilsonGP 11 років тому +3

    It is my dream to follow in these guy's footsteps...

  • @GreelTheMindRaker
    @GreelTheMindRaker 12 років тому

    Very interesting watch,

  • @simonholmes6473
    @simonholmes6473 2 роки тому

    I knew Jon when he was young, back when MTG was pretty new and didn't have a single expansion out and he was unbeatable even then.

  • @chad0x
    @chad0x 2 роки тому

    4:45 I remember Jon looking like that. He used to have BIG hair too!

  • @soapbox187
    @soapbox187 12 років тому

    I strongly agree! kai put together some awesome decks!

  • @Disburden
    @Disburden 12 років тому

    Jon Finkel....Amazing.

  • @israell4409
    @israell4409 7 років тому +14

    " YOU KNOW "

  • @Samael1349
    @Samael1349 11 років тому

    do you have a Video talking about the game in general?, like a documentary of MTG, or history? I consider this series the best quality MTG films ever, and I´d love to introduce many friends to MTG by seeing these vids, or just to show the magic of this game in the best way.

  • @TheMaskedHero
    @TheMaskedHero 6 років тому

    Its weird to think about 6 years separate the clip of Finkle and BDM at his Hall of Fame ceremony and this video. The quality jumped up so much in a half a dozen years. Even understanding that Wizards wasn't going for documentary quality in 2005.

  • @yeahno6053
    @yeahno6053 5 років тому +3

    why do i feel like we need some breath mints anytime i watch these videos?

  • @Zoomsoldier5
    @Zoomsoldier5 12 років тому

    He's so good

  • @DrJack144
    @DrJack144 6 років тому +5

    Whatever argument there may have been for a different GOAT in 2011 doesn’t exist anymore. There’s separation between Finkel and guys like Kai or PVDDR

    • @futuropasado
      @futuropasado 4 роки тому

      So Finkel is not as great as Kai or PVDDR right? I agree

  • @androkguz
    @androkguz 6 років тому +4

    So... can anyone tell me or show me one of his impresive displays of thinking ahead instead of just saying "yeah, it was awesome"?
    Please?

  • @AkatsukiZetsu100
    @AkatsukiZetsu100 10 років тому

    residentzombie actually, he played Mono-blue Devotion in pro tour Theros this year

  • @juanGonzalez-wt5mj
    @juanGonzalez-wt5mj 3 роки тому +2

    Love how Swartz admits they cheated with hand signals hahaha

  • @johnyramble
    @johnyramble 10 років тому +54

    Wow... so as a teenager he was fat with huge nerdy glasses but a nice, full set of hair and now he has matured into a very handsom gentleman with a giant bald spot on the back of his head. Life is so unfair. (That probably wasn't the point of the video though)

    • @whatdothlife4660
      @whatdothlife4660 7 років тому +7

      Only if you think your hair is a big deal.

    • @joshshin6819
      @joshshin6819 5 років тому +2

      So you compliment him and insult him but this man played magic to the point he is good in life.
      Bald spot or not. He's rocking

  • @Anyguy4321
    @Anyguy4321 12 років тому

    Finally! This footage has been in the intro since PT Philly. Was rrally looking foward to this.

  • @Pringlesman
    @Pringlesman 8 років тому +11

    Video released December of 2011. His next top 8 was 2 months later in Honolulu.

  • @dannyweisman1153
    @dannyweisman1153 8 років тому +4

    omg so many ya knows

  • @lp1653
    @lp1653 9 років тому +5

    He looks like Manu Ginobili :P

  • @haloman123123
    @haloman123123 11 років тому +2

    I have a playset of Shadowmage Infiltrator :D

  • @MalikarVampire
    @MalikarVampire 11 років тому

    finkel is just the best

  • @MoBoRoS
    @MoBoRoS 12 років тому

    I would love to see an inside the deck Shuhei Nakamura...

  • @manudosde
    @manudosde 12 років тому

    Why you guys aren't working for WotC yet is beyond me. Awesome content, awesome.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero 6 років тому +1

      He's a poster boy that's why. He doesn't have any real value to the game except being pushed by MTG as a 'legend'. Just because you can play a game doesn't mean you're creative or good for a game development company.

  • @franciscozavala1862
    @franciscozavala1862 8 років тому +1

    The best player ever

  • @MrJackPeppers
    @MrJackPeppers 7 років тому +10

    You know nothing Jon Snow... you know. - Jon Finkel

  • @SFTortoise
    @SFTortoise 8 років тому

    Why couldn't something like this be in the "Enter the Battlefield" Documentary, it gets 'one' into the enthusiasm....
    Note: Not talking down on the documentary

  • @rustopholis1667
    @rustopholis1667 12 років тому

    I'M FROM ROCHESTER!

  • @WhisperingWinds0
    @WhisperingWinds0 11 років тому

    Im playing for a while.. and I have a question for really pro players.. actually im running a Mono green deck in Modern.. is that good? or I must play more than one color to have a good deck?

  • @FistOfNorthStar3
    @FistOfNorthStar3 11 років тому

    It depends on your local game shops meta game and what the other players are playing.

  • @bigjohn697791
    @bigjohn697791 9 років тому +4

    I used to know this guy Jon Finkel, along time ago in a store in Woking (UK) called fun and games. I took a different route in life returned to Ireland then back to UK Joined the army. We were never friends. But its nice to see he did so well in life. He seems to have grown-up a lot since we last meet but haven't we all.

    • @joshshin6819
      @joshshin6819 5 років тому +1

      So...you knew of him but didnt know him?
      Cool.
      Everyone in the media is on this list for us as well. So do tell me again about how you knew of him before the rest of us?

  • @Combatstyles1611
    @Combatstyles1611 12 років тому

    You should do an inside the deck with Kai Budde

  • @collinbrocker2166
    @collinbrocker2166 8 років тому +8

    y'know

  • @Zoomsoldier5
    @Zoomsoldier5 12 років тому

    World champion

  • @TheCartajay
    @TheCartajay 9 років тому

    Does anybody know where I find the music that starts at 0:56 and towards the end of the video?? It seems so hard to find. Please help.

    • @baxter740
      @baxter740 9 років тому +16

      Darude - Sandstorm

  • @jindac
    @jindac 10 років тому

    I'm convinced he's a time traveler.

  • @taitchandler1461
    @taitchandler1461 3 роки тому

    Hoping the protour is still going strong... oooph

  • @troyjeffrey4311
    @troyjeffrey4311 5 років тому

    G
    O
    A
    T

  • @CharlieIsADragon
    @CharlieIsADragon 11 років тому

    Meta game is the best thing ever. Like most people in my store play Jund or mill, so playing flash is basically always a win.

  • @Checker222
    @Checker222 10 років тому +6

    12:50 Grasp of Darkness is a...

    • @ripbeni6198
      @ripbeni6198 6 років тому +2

      Checker222 yeah wtf

    • @Yonny316
      @Yonny316 4 роки тому

      @@ripbeni6198 hey you cucks, that card owned standard 10 years ago.

  • @ThePopey13
    @ThePopey13 12 років тому +3

    Can't fault him as a Magic player but... y'know...

  • @Calvert1212
    @Calvert1212 7 років тому

    I'm a "ya know" culprit as well. 😥

  • @brendanerickson2363
    @brendanerickson2363 4 роки тому

    id like to play a game of chess with Jon Finkle.

  • @KongNito
    @KongNito 12 років тому

    BDM: "it's one thing to be good at magic. It's another thing to be good at life" Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • @monkiflip15
    @monkiflip15 12 років тому

    daymn he manned up and lost weight good job

  • @helderboymh
    @helderboymh 8 років тому +1

    @0:40 someone knows which is the other one ? lsv? and does finkel still play competitively?

    • @stasislabs3725
      @stasislabs3725 8 років тому +2

      +marcel helder David Ochoa
      just kidding it's actually Kai Budde, just look up his and finkel's stats on wiki and them to LSV's (who is also one of the all-time greats), and you'll see why.

    • @helderboymh
      @helderboymh 8 років тому

      +Justin Bizlab yeah since then I have been more impressed in great magic players, and already came across his name. sily me thinking it could be lsv...haha. what I was wondering why did he almost completely stop playing after 2003. and why he was not introduced earlier then 2007 in to the Hal of fame.

    • @helderboymh
      @helderboymh 8 років тому

      +marcel helder interested*

    • @chrisbartkowicz2759
      @chrisbartkowicz2759 5 років тому

      Kai Budde

  • @nicht_nice
    @nicht_nice 3 місяці тому

    the magnus carlsen of magic

  • @kareem_da_ream1916
    @kareem_da_ream1916 11 місяців тому +1

    I know bro, I KNOW!! 😟

  • @apocchime
    @apocchime 2 роки тому

    @10:30 😭😭😭

  • @mikaelmagnusson3225
    @mikaelmagnusson3225 Рік тому

    I still think Kai is the bitter. 7 PRO Tour wins, still more than double than the seconds. 4 Player of the Year titlles. Tied for most Grand Prix wins

  • @griffielliott279
    @griffielliott279 4 роки тому

    I guarantee if they take the ban off some of these cards I can take him. They put the ban on these cards because unskilled players complained instead of trying to find a way to win. If fate allows us to play against each other I will win mark my words. Make sure word gets back to John Finkel.

  • @AnvilWitch
    @AnvilWitch 6 років тому +3

    doesnt have Budde the most pro tour wins? so why isnt he considered the best?

    • @teutonicorder9520
      @teutonicorder9520 5 років тому +4

      Cause he isnt american.

    • @davyfromthenavy4248
      @davyfromthenavy4248 3 роки тому

      Because of several reasons the video discusses. At least 1 guy talks about the difference between Kai & Jon. Also, in Magic, Top 8s are king. Making top 8 at the PT level is arguably harder to do, & nobody has done it more than Jon

  • @tok291
    @tok291 3 роки тому +1

    "In 10 years hopefully the pro tour will still be going strong....." Yikes.

  • @inkedblessed7904
    @inkedblessed7904 8 років тому +4

    Sold his soul.

  • @e61i
    @e61i 12 років тому +1

    if john finkel is the mj of mtg... how about saito? LBJ?

  • @Andrew-pm6uj
    @Andrew-pm6uj Рік тому

    10 years later and the pro tour and live magic tournaments are basically dead.

    • @insidethedeck
      @insidethedeck  Рік тому +1

      Pretty crazy. We never thought they would get rid of the Pro Tour and all of its history.

  • @The.Original.Potatocakes
    @The.Original.Potatocakes 5 років тому +2

    Kai Budde. That's all

  • @residentzombie
    @residentzombie 10 років тому

    Kai hasn't played Magic in over 2 years now.

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 3 роки тому

    imagine that. all those brains and he's freaking hedge fund manager.

  • @williamcrow6613
    @williamcrow6613 5 років тому +1

    I'll never forget that kibler game, should have blocked!

  • @jmac9750
    @jmac9750 6 років тому

    What a G

  • @stens.8394
    @stens.8394 6 років тому +1

    Uhhhhmm...ya'know?

  • @HughLeFitness
    @HughLeFitness 12 років тому

    I wonder how much a decent amount of money is...

    • @andykapsar4667
      @andykapsar4667 6 років тому

      hu le if you check his wiki page, says like 400k usd or something

  • @romainleonardy9380
    @romainleonardy9380 9 років тому

    HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!!! Finkle is the reason that I play "Demonic Consultation" in pretty much every black orientated deck :)

  • @agedskate3000
    @agedskate3000 12 років тому +1

    but he cant block lol

  • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
    @ToxicallyMasculinelol 5 років тому

    show don't tell

  • @RunsInTheSkinnyJeans
    @RunsInTheSkinnyJeans 9 років тому

    Steve O'MS's side burn is longer than the other and its distracting me..

  • @ROASTEDCLYDE
    @ROASTEDCLYDE 11 років тому

    Jon Finkel is great but in my opinion Alexander Hayne is one of the greatest magic players I have seen

  • @warwize
    @warwize 12 років тому +1

    if only finkel devoted his time to poker he'd be rich now lol

    • @grabbity
      @grabbity 7 років тому +1

      Ingrid he did. they wrote a book about it lol.

  • @killustrator
    @killustrator 7 років тому

    "Every sport has one person that defines it!!! That person is so dominant! Anyway, in magic there are two so this has nothing to do with what I was saying!"
    -Mark Rosewater

  • @derrickpiche1119
    @derrickpiche1119 3 роки тому

    Magic is a sport?

  • @zachattack1996
    @zachattack1996 12 років тому

    aaaaaand he can't block a wolf token