Harbor Freight Garage Update
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- We are replacing a wind damaged HF 10 x 17 portable garage with a new one. I incorporate viewer suggestions and new tips that came up after putting together 5 of these. I also show design changes/improvements made to the garages which make them much better overall.
I bought and constructed the 10x10 size and when it came to screwing in the anchors, I could not get them to drill into the hard, clay ground here in TN more than 3 or 4 inches. So, I got the idea to use rebar, and I bought four 3/8 x 48 inch rebar and bent a hook with about 12 inches at one end and pounded them into the ground over the corner legs. It's only been up for about a week, so time will tell. But just looking at it, I'm pretty hopeful that it will stay anchored.
I did the same thing with one of ours plus the sandbags. So far it has stayed put. Ours are all showing their age since I got them for "temporary" storage and haven't been treating them with UV protection. Unfortunately, our house build has taken WAY longer than anticipated so the temporary has been 2 years... Other than weather damage they have held up pretty well.
Awsome video! I like the idea that you can buy another end panel with a zipper!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. A viewer actually commented about being able to buy a second door. I had used parts of a damaged tent to get an extra door previously. Thanks for watching!
Excellent suggestions, Tony. I'm sure you thought of this, but I was wondering about cross ties (or heavy pipe) down the sides, with sand bags on top if needed for extra weight, so there's no gaps between sand bags for the wind to get through. You've done this enough you're getting good at it.
I think anything that holds the sides down is good. I added 3 more sand bags on each side and they seem to be doing the trick with the new anchor system. I couldn't get the original anchors in the ground so I used big tent stakes and fewer sand bags. Basically, the wind got under the ends and lifted the whole thing like a parachute.
@@ozarksethic ok, one question and a couple of ideas for you. Question, I just got done putting mine up (lagged to 4x4 framework staked with 3/8"×12" rebar stakes) but thinking I may have put too much tension on the canvas. How tight should it be? I went back to my old AF CE days and pulled pretty snug before tightening the lower rails.
Ideas for ya. I also did the duct tape, but in true military over-engineering form I will be adding self tappers. I used 5/16 lags for all attachments to the 4x4s. After the fact, I was wondering how to hold the closed end down. I found that 1" PVC will slide into the corners nicely. With a little finagling, you can use the bottom pocket on the back and slide it all together with it going most of the way to the corners. I just ran my 2-1/2"lags on the end through the material and then poked my ratchets through. On the front corners I used 13" bungee to snug at these corners. I may add an eye-bolt and eye-nut to connect the ratchets and bungee to for tidying it up.
Wish I had thought to pre-assembled the ends with the tarp like you did.
@@Tonyrd3000 Your layout seems pretty solid. I think tighter canvas is better since there will be less whipping in the wind and flexing of the entire structure. When I put EMT in the "pocket" of the door I weighed it down with sand bags. I wish they would put a flap like the sides in addition to the pocket.
Thanks for watching!
When I put it together solo, I put the roof together first. Then add the legs on one side, then the other. After the roof is assembled, put the cover on before you put on the legs.
That's the method I used in my first video that I referenced in this one. I wanted to try something more like the instructions recommend in this one. Solo it is much better to do the roof first.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for an awesome video! Yes, you found a better way to assemble it! Well done sir! Your Helper did a great job as well. Carry On Sir!
You're welcome and Thanks for Watching!
Big Ass Nails! 🙃 lolol Thank you for your service Tony and Thank you for such a GREAT Video!!!
You're Welcome! Thanks for Watching!
I haven't bought me one of these to put up yet since my wife organized the metal building for me. My plan now is to use one for air drying some lumber. I got a hoot out of watching you put it together "bassakwards" at the beginning. I'll be cussing that thing I know. When I do get around to it I'll watch this again for sure.
It was definitely aggravating. Typical when I get in a hurry.
I had thought about using one for lumber drying as well. I think the double door would be a necessity, as well as an elevated floor, to encourage ventilation for moisture control.
@@ozarksethic I think its doable. If I can get caught up on a few projects I'll give it a try
It is noticeably warmer inside them. If you could rig up a fan at the peak and maybe cut a ventilation flap like a wall tent you could have a low budget kiln. Keeping the moisture from condensing on the roof would be a problem.
@@ozarksethic we're all about low budget projects around here.
Here too! Too many projects to dedicate all of the resources to one.
I found moving the leg outta the way makes putting the anchor in so much easier and you can use a longer bar
I can see how that would help. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!
I will be working alone. It occurs to me I could use my riding mower to hold the end piece in place while I climb up to connect the second rib. Fasten some tarp clamps and tie some rope to the mower. Let it lean just a bit so It won't fall in on me and then pull the rope to bring the pieces together.
Attaching the ends to the frame was smart, instead of putting pipes together then climbing up to separate the pipes and weasel the strap into place.
I will spray it with 303 UV protectant. It helps repel sunlight and keep the material flexible.
Thanks for the compliment. Anything that will act as an extra pair of "hands" should be helpful. The other way I put one up in the first video worked pretty well for me. Thanks for watching!
For the cost of 5 of these thing you might as well build a shed. At current prices you can build a 10x20 shed for about $1500. Looks like you need more than one but if you build one every couple years they will last longer and you will save money down the road. I’m building my first harbor freight shed just to get some things under cover for the winter knowing that im going to build a shed next year. Just my 2 cents. An in this economy. Thats worth less than it ised to be 😂
These are temporary. 2 of the 5 were replacements due to storm damage and were covered by the extended warranty. We've had to expand storage for materials for the house and to keep tools & equipment out of the weather. When the house is done I will be building a shop and barn. We talked about building a more permanent structure but we got much more storage space without taking labor/time away from the house.
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I don’t know how it is where he lives however where I live if we build anything on the property we get taxed for it however they will not tax Harbor freight or shelter logic or something along those lines type shed
Black duct tape (supposedly stronger) is exactly how I do it especially when I'm by myself
Yep, I felt kind of silly using the screws after the comment about the tape on the first one. It's a much faster way to put them together.
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I think you could get another short eyelet to chuck down in a drill, use a bolt to fasten the chucked eyelet to the stake, and drive it in with the drill.
Maybe in a place with nice loamy soil but not here. The rocks are crazy. I was actually surprised I got them in as well as I did. The old version just twisted and the eye opened up but the new ones actually went in. Thanks for watching!
Gorilla brand duck tape red green on steroids lol😊💕
It is surprisingly good but spendy! Thanks for watching!
Thank You!!!
You're welcome! I hope it was useful information for you. Thanks for watching!
Thx,just bought mine. I’ll put mine up in a couple weeks.I’m using reg duct tape. Still debating about a secondary tarp over the top,heavier with reflective cover. I’m in NE Ohio we get some snow sometimes,still debating 4 x4 runners for footing.
We discussed adding a tarp to ours and decided against it but you might find it worthwhile. As for snow & ice, I just used a push broom from the inside and lifted the canvas to knock the accumulation off a few times during the storms. We just put ours on the ground since they are temporary. If we reuse them after we're done with the house we'll probably put them on platforms of some type. I'd say anything that helps keep the wind from getting under them and lifting would be beneficial. Hopefully your assembly process will go smoothly.
Does this tarp break down over time with UV light? Most dry out and crack.
We've had 5 up for over a year and they are still shedding water. I'm sure they are experiencing some degradation but so far, so good. There are spray on UV protestants available but we haven't gone to the trouble since these are temporary.
Thanks for watching!
@@ozarksethic
Thanks for replying. I plan on footings in the corners as a solid base. In NM we get 60mph gusts at times and a overkill on footings is a must. Thanks so much
Thomas, you're welcome. Wind and ice have been our concerns. The updated designs with tie downs has mitigated the wind problem for us. We use 303 Aircraft Protectant on our fifth wheels vinyl decals and it has kept them from fading for 7 years. Another option you might look at is one of HF's sun screen shades.
303 is good UV repellent
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"And beer" LOL 😆😆
Putting the canvas up singlehandedly:
I threw a few "clothes line" ropes over the top. Attached to the canvas ( mine had o-ring holes) and the just pulled the ropes alternately and the canvas came right over.
JME 😁😁😎😎
Tony. We used to use screw type "dog stakes" for emergency portable airplane tie downs, and used 3000 pound nylon ropes. Weld the big eye closed. They are 5/16" metal and 4 loops.
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The ropes are the way they recommend doing it. I tried it on one and it was, in my opinion, putting too much strain on the structure. We did one with my helper pulling on ropes while I worked it over the ridge and that worked ok. The only reason I got it over the way I did is that it was relatively calm. A little more wind and all bets are off.
@@ozarksethic I just threw mine over a bit at a time and used a cargo strap to hold one corner while I worked the other. Took less than five minutes this way. Many TEMPER tent installs (Google that one) definitely helped on this one.
@@Tonyrd3000 I get the reference. I have about 25 years experience with tents from the GP Tiny through Maintenance Shelters, TEMPERs, SICUPs, etc. I found that experience to be very useful and it caused me to question some design decisions. Of course, based on your earlier comment, you chose more wisely. AF has a much better standard of living in garrison and deployed than the Army. LOL!
I would buy some 8x8's and screw the feet down to them. I'd also still install sand bags.
That would work for a more permanent installation. Ours are temporary and will be moved to new locations once we finish our house. I plan to put one by the garden on a more permanent base. You definitely have to do something to prevent the from blowing away in higher winds.
Thanks for watching!
I put mine on landscape timbers and have bent rebar going into the ground. It has lasted well almost 3 years, until these recent storms came through and ripped the top. But to be fair we had 80 to 85mph winds, and trees down all over, as we had several tornadoes about. I just got a replacement cover in for it. But we have storms coming in tonight so the make shift tarp I threw over it is going to have to do for another night.
I buried dead man anchors log or a 5 gal. pail with cement at each corner
That would work well. I didn't go that route since I didn't want' to deal with all of the rock. Just getting the screw in anchors set was enough of a PITA. Thanks for watching!
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I had to throw in some Army humor. LOL!