Porsche 997 Long Term Review [10K km] | EP077
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- In 2018 I bought my 2011 Porsche Carrera 4S with the intent to daily drive it and use it as my every day 911 alongside my weekend driven 993 Carrera 4S. This Long Term Porsche 997.2 Review video is the first of many check ins at every milage milestone to discuss the following:
What I like
What I don’t like
What went wrong
Operating Costs
Upcoming Costs
General Feedback
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I always appreciate a real life user review of a 997. A previous poster asked what the point was of this vid. The point is it is way to teach folks that are considering purchasing a 997 what to expect. It is not a fanboy review. It is the good and not so good points that are reviewed. Again, I appreciate the education. Jacob does a fine job at it.
Thanks so much for sticking up for me Jonathan! It's true, this is completely my intent with all of the videos, just to SHARE my cars and Porsche experiences with people who are on the fence about buying one or dream of owning one, or own one and want to see another owner's perspective. I'm never trying to emulate amazing and legitimate journalist/presenters like Chris Harris for example :) On the other hand, if you do come to my channel expecting polished content like that, I can see how you'd be leaving disappointed. LOL, Thanks again!! :)
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Just put a deposit down on a 997.2 C4S PDK 2009 with 62000 miles and now I’ve watched this, I can’t wait to get it! 🙂
Amazing!!! Huge congrats! You're going to love it! :)
Congrats!! How’s it been with the new ride??
Constantly thinking about what my next car should be, and since I have been watching your videos over the last week or so, I am now seriously considering a 997. Absolutely love yours! Keep up the great content, I look forward to tuning in every Thursday 👍
Thanks so much Aaron! Happy to hear that you're getting a kick out of the videos and possibly join the dark side!! :) Cheers!
I’ve said this before, but.........hands down the best background music of any UA-cam channel. If anyone thinks differently, they just haven’t seen 911 Percent! Another wonderful video. Thanks for all your hard work to produce this great content.
Thank you so much for tuning in! I really appreciate it! :)
Hello mate, are you ok? Can’t find any new videos, I hope all is well in your world.
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I have to agree with all these points! I bought a 2008 C2S in November and have already put 3k miles on it. Fantastic cars that can really do it all!
Thanks for tuning in Kellin! Great to hear you're enjoying yours too! Cheers! :)
10,000 miles a year is the way to go for passionate drivers ! Nick Murray hit 20 K in two years , and i only see that is how 911 owners should be, good on you Jacob !
Thanks for watching...Not 10000 miles, I put on 10000 KM in 8 months - which is about 6214 miles. Not as awesome as Nick! But I definitely try to use it as much as I can! I love this car. :) Cheers!!!
i've put 10,000 miles on my 997.2 since last march. best car ever. huge smile on my face every time.
Awesome!! Happy Motoring!!!
Okay Jakob, really enjoyed the update at 10K km, liked the explanation on why you got a PDK transmission but it was cool to see your helmet for boarding is close at hand!! Nice video!
Thanks for tuning in Charles! I had my boots behind the seat too. I shred anytime I can! :)
Excellent video as always Jacob, just purchased a 997s PDK with 37,000 miles and a high spec...fabulous car to drive and a massive improvement over my 996 Carrera4S ( its a garage queen), a real evolution .
Best regards from Sussex England.
Happy new year mate, here’s to another 10,000k 👍
Cheers! Thanks Steve!! :)
Happy to hear things have been going well with the 997. I had a feeling you would really enjoy it. Some may complain that it is too new or too electronic, but that fades away once you drive it and see what it's all about. I don't know how much sporty driving you've done with the car, but I'll say that the AWD system is very grippy and provides so much confidence while driving fast. Great video and I'm looking forward to what's going to be on the channel in 2019.
(P.S. The only gripe I have with the 997.2 is that the spark plugs are hard to change)
Jack, thanks for tuning in man! Long time! Happy New Year! I didn't know about the spark plugs location being a PITA. Good to know, not going to DIY it lol. Hopefully I'll run into you at an event somewhere. Take care!
Driving the car year round like it's meant to be driven. 4S is a great platform...best of both worlds!
It's the only way! The car is meant to be driven, I love every minute of it. Thanks for tuning in! Cheers
More great content from 911% Hopefully I can purchase a 997 this year. Thanks Jakob.
Thank you so much for your support Nick! Make it happen!!!
Happy New Year!
Tedward BOTH of you guys GREAT content but I argue the 987 Cayman might be the better VALUE proposition right now. Not necessarily the better car. We’ll be arguing that on the forums FOREVER. More Cayman/Boxster content guys. I can’t be your only subscriber who owns one🤣. Love 911% and Tedward channels. Keep up the good work
Happy New Year brother!! All the best :)
Ha, thanks Nate! I'll try to finagle a mid-engined car to make some videos with in the spring..And actually if it wasn't for the kid seat(s), I totally would be driving a 981 GTS instead of the 4S :P
mmm i love the 981 GTS. its basically the modern definition of a sports car
911Percent I wasn’t even thinking of “face off” type content but that is GREAT idea. I have a 4 month old myself and if I didn’t have a stupendously boring but stupid reliable Honda Accord I wouldn’t have my 2010 Cayman. Keep up the great content👍🏾
I always hit the like button before I even watch the video in case I forget. :) This is certainly a dream daily driver, it looks good (not a fan of black wheels tho), it's reliable, about the same cost for parts as my Mercedes, has ample amount of power for street use and a super fun car to drive! I would really like to see you race a Civic one day. lol
You're the man, thank you Vincent!
First one in commenting! ;-)
Happy New Year! Keep up the good work! Nearly crossed 10K subscribers proves you are doing it right! Whenever you make it to Miami let me know, we'll go for a ride in my 996 Turbo and check out all the crazy car shows, sometimes 5 per weekend.
Bests,
Bjoern
Yaaas! Thanks man, and Happy New Year to you too! I'll definitely give you a shout if I'll ever head down there. I'm bummed I'm missing the DRT in Feb! Huge bummer!
Only just come across your channel, great content with quality presentation. Easy sub
Thanks for tuning in!
@@911Percent - You have good content, but where is it?
Great review. I've got an 08 997.2 with similar mileage. I use mine daily and it is perfectly capable of the daily grind. My only MAJOR gripe is the interior squeaks and rattles. The back seats, passenger seats if no-one is sitting there and other random areas, it just drives me nuts!! Probably woouldn't be an issue so much if it was a weekender.
Thanks for tuning in Nathan, You know, I should've talked about that, it seems to be a common complaint amongst 997 owners. I too have slight squeaks in my '11 on cold days, particularly in the front seat that drives me bananas. Luckily it comes and goes. :)
Diggin' the black wheels.
Thanks Bo! I love the new menacing demeanour the black wheels gave the car :) Thanks for watching
+993 ... Hot Damn! .. Time flies. .. When looking at 997.1's, were you casting about for the model S or would the base C4 coupe do? .. Congratulations! .. This 993 C2S owner is following suit, on the prowl for a suitable 997.1 S coupe to be a daily driver.
Michael, thanks for watching!! Time does fly! When I was looking for my car, I wasn't specific about the 3.6 vs 3.8. I was after the best car, in the best condition I could find within budget. And that took forever! There are a few items that are nice to have with the S cars, bigger brakes, a bit more power, etc, but even the base cars will put a HUGE simile on your face. Good luck with your search!
I drive a simple c4, and it's very handful. Precise and fun to drive, can do 280kmh on autobahn (GPS verified), and 3.6 is a nice sounding engine. I'm coming from 964 background and frankly 997 has about 90% of the classic 911 feeling, with a few great modern touches. It lacks a bit the looks and rawness, but probably easier to live with daily.
Jakob,
There is one major structural flaw in the 997.2 you will have to admit. The cup holders really don’t like to swing out from their home in the dash. (Try attaching a piece of ribbon to them which hangs out over the cover).
Great video Jakob.
David, thanks for checking out the video. I agree, they can be a little finicky, but mine have been operating properly. I find the trick is to be super gentle both taking out and putting them back in. Also, I don't put in big heavy drinks in there, so it's been fine. Good advice on the ribbon/string; Ill do that when I sense them loosing the click/lock into the dash.
I have owned one for 5 years and have loved every second. Only issue was my washer fluid bottle cracked and needed replacement at a whopping $90. Rest just servicing. And I have lost zero money on the car can sell it for a smidge less than I paid its not an investment but it aint an M3 or other pretender to the throne that will smoke you 50% or more in 5 years.
Very informative and neutral content, awesome tunes as always. Interesting that you're planning to use this as your daily, and 10k is a bit of mileage in 8 months considering you have several other rides.
Great video,thanks
Thank you for tuning in!
Swear I saw this already but I guess I’m late to the party. Another great video! I love your C4S. When the time comes for me, I believe I will have to compare the C4S with the S. Not sure I want the added weight and mechanicals in the 4S, but those hips tho...... Decisions, decisions!! Unfortunately, I’ve got some time to make up my mind. Keep ‘em coming!
Great Vid! Noticed you're putting Petro Can 94 octane at 7:17. As my porsche mechanic says "why pay to put water (he means ethanol) in your car?" Use shell 91. No ethanol in 91 octane. His recommendation is to use it whenever you can.
Thanks! The 997 needs 93+ octane, so I'm filling it with the recommended Ultra94. My 993 however, I only ever put in Shell 91. Ethanol does a number on older plastic fuel components, so I agree with the mechanics - keep that crap out of your classics! Cheers!!
Good video bro
My 987.2 is great
Except not in Snow
Love the top down fast free experience butttt
If i could move to 911
Prob the pdk 4s would be best value
Personally love my pdk sport chrono adaptive lights
Adds i would if i could time travel to time of order
Pasm
Man loving u having this beauty!!
Cheers
Beers on me if u make a drive to colorado!!
Oh boy your 997 4S looks better from the back then mine does. Kinda jealous ! My control vents are broken as well. The previous owner said they broke because they got stuck after the car was out in the sun for some very hot days.
LOL, why do you think it looks better? I sometimes wonder what mine would be like with the regular red tails vs the GT2/Speedster clear ones..Yeah bummer about those vents, I wonder if I can get them to come together again or if it's going to be a $1400 each side trip to the dealer hahah. Cheers Leon!
@@911Percent the allwheeldrive Porsche's got the red stripe on the back and the way bigger backend that let's look wider and more curvy :)
I bought used vents and installed them myself haha. Charged me around 250 euro:)
Thanks for the car wash information. I drive by there all the time. Any drives planned for the spring? The trips down to Niagra and up to Weber’s looked like fun. My ride comes out April 1. Regards Peter
well done J!
Thank you my friend!!! :)
Happy new year Jakob! I wish you all the best for you and your family!
My question for your next video is, when did you actually had a crush on Porsche 911, and if you set your life in a way that you could afford one, or it's just happend to have the privilege to own one.
Much love and support from Greece!
Thanks bud, Happy New Year to you too! Thanks for the question!!
I’m having serious withdrawals here, man. Come back soon!
Cheers, thanks man. Soon hopefully :)
10K km is long term? My 981 is at 50K miles! Drive 'em more!
OH! Your kms not the cars! got it! doh! sweet! a loved car
LOL, yeah I picked it up preowned with 86K kms on the odometer, now it has just over 96. Car gets driven, trust me! Sun, snow, rain, sleet, whatever :) Thanks for tuning in!
What size wheels and tires are you running? Looks great!! I’m thinking about putting 18s on mine the streets in my city are awful!
Hey Jakob, love the vids. I own a 997.2 C2S and have two kids under 4 yrs old. My son is always asking to ride in “daddy’s Porsche....vroom”. Would love your thoughts on the car seat you chose and comparison with any others looked at.
For your q&a... What are your thoughts on the 2003 996 also what about the normal Carrera without the s... Thinking about getting into my first Porsche so looking and cheap and reliable and something I can work on
Hey dude, no new videos for a while? All ok ?
Oil change??
Easy no??
If u can do brakes!!
Beautiful 997 C4S!! If you got a chance to choose again, will you stick with the PDK or go with the stick if you dont need to share your car?
Thank you! I am a big fan of PDK. If I was to buy a 997.2 again, I would no question get a PDK box... I do not miss driving stick in it. But I think my answer would be different if I didn't have a manual 993 in the garage.
Thank you for the video. Just put deposit on 2009 997 4S cab with PDK to use as a weekend car. It currently has only 7500 miles. Wondering as to your experience driving it as a primary vehicle as to its reliability. Is a third party warranty necessary in your opinion on a 10 year old car with so few miles?
Great content! Rooting for Toronto local UA-camrs like you! :)
How much is a PDK service?
Looking at a one-owner 2009 C4S with a C$29k front end collision claim on CarFax. How would you comment on this?
Did you end up purchasing the car? What were your thoughts?
Clek fllo is $429?! Damn, looking good
The car I’ve always wanted but it’s quite a large price jump from 996 to 997 :(
997s are still dipping down, it's just a matter of finding the right car!
Jacob I noticed you took your car to a drive through car wash. Which location do you use? I’m a Humbervalley 911 owner and I use the spray booth at Dundas and Scarlett. I’m nervous taking my car through a drive through. Any thoughts? Peter
Hi Peter, it's the touchless wash at the Esso on Islington/Queensway, north/west corner. You basically drive into a glass box without a track and a big robotic arm sprays and washes the car without touching it. The "luxury" wash has the high pressure spray for under the car in the beginning - this is what I get. I don't get fuel there, but they have a discount if you buy gas. I have never used the bays on Dundas/Scarlet, I will check it out -- it's pretty close to me. Cheers! :)
for the AMA segment. What do you think of the 996 C4S?
Hi Jacob,
Since you drive in the winter, did you undercoat your 997 with 'Rust Check' ?
Thanks
Mark
I did not, nobody really recommends that. I talked a bit about it in my Winter Mode video I posted before the holidays. The cars are galvanized as well as coated with cosmoline. There is no worries. I make sure to wash with a high spray under the car thoroughly once a week or after I come back from snowy/salty roadtrip to the ski hill.
@911Percent what size wheels are those, they look perfect. i have 20's on my 997 and i dont like the ride at all..
What color is the car?
Its a beauty but why not get the turbo? Also the car would be more fun if it was manual would it not? I had one auto car in my life and will never buy another again. When the computer is the one in charge of my revs, the sound my engine makes and the connection that i can have with my car its just not the same. Why did the brakes cost so much? Could you not find a euro tuning shop for parts and do it yourself instead of spending that much money?
He drives in manual most of the time. You can be in charge of the revs with the PDK.
there is a 2009 997 4s near me for sale at 55k with 33k miles. pdk and chrono. whatcha think?
How’s the Motul oil working for you? I am considering switching from Mobil 1 synthetic to Motul.
It's been great. Hard to tell really vs the old oil that was in there. When I bought the car, the shop I did the PPI at did an oil change with Mobil 1 (as per service record), I drove the car x-country and then I switched to the Motul when I got home. Car is always running at the right temp and it has always had zero oil consumption, even with the Mobil 1. I've always heard great things about it Motul, also the GT3 Cup teams I work with pour it into their race cars so...lol.
You lost me at the drive through car wash.
What happened to this Channel?
You going to bring it or the 993 out to any PCA DE days?
I missed the sign up on the 1st!! It's all on waiting list status :(...and not the 993 lol, the 997 is definitely going on the track :)
@@911Percent awesome... hope to see you out there!
Very nice video and nice car indeed , I was smiling when you talked about the social status of the car , wearing this shitty outfit and then filming the car in a complete different outfit and isolated location. I guess you would like to be a little bit like Magnus Walker . I didn't know this car is so versatile . Where can I get the tow hitch to pull my yacht ? LOL
You only made 10000 km and call it a long term? That thing was made to hit 1million km
My car was interesting
What’s the info on the helmet & goggles?
My snowboarding brain bucket..I left it on the seat that day.
Nice color, great color. Now KEEP IT OUT OF THOSE AUTO CAR WASHES! Polish that Baby.
Haha, everyone always makes a comment about the wash. I should make a video about it :) .it's a glass box with a robotic arm that orbits around the car. it's 100000% touchless, no tire/wheel track, you drive in, it sprays from all directions and dries it. :) It's that or salty residue on the car when I park indoors which is no good. :)
You call 10k km "long term"? That's cute. Report back when you hit 100k man!
Yeah man, this is the first check-in. Plenty of kms left to go! Cheers
Did you watch the video? The car has 96,000k kms on it.
I really hope you’ve watched the latest Petrolicious video ?
Doh ! I just watched a 2 year old video from petrolicious about the 964
You should install the aero kit cup wing👍🏼
God damn that popping sound is annoying!
Why do you use a car wash? Is your paint covered by film?
A 911not hand washed but through a automated car wash. SmH.
Class A Perpetrator
Gentlemen, if you would like to come by my place in January to hand wash my 911 in freezing temperatures by all means, please do, but bring your own warm water. What's worse a 100% touchless wash once a week or road salt coverage?
@@911Percent own a Porsche, should have a garage. Unless you're in a igloo in Alaska
Ok?..lol...Lloyd, my car is garaged with my other 911 every day..What does that have to do with me washing the salt off at a touchless high-pressure wash?
@@911Percent wash it in the garage with luke warm water. IDK, it's what I do
I stopped watching when I saw the automatic car wash murder of the paintwork
Only thing I don’t like about this video...taking the 911 through an auto car wash. No no no. Wash by hand...coin wash.
Thanks for tuning in...If you want to swing by to wash my car by hand in -12C winter weather be my guest! The automated wash is 100000% touches, no wheel/tire guide, no brushes..only high powered water spray and keeps the car salt free in the winter. Warm weather, yes, by hand on the driveway.
Hahaha fair enough. Although I enjoy washing my car, washing the car by hand in the winter....no fun. I don’t drive my Porsche in the winter.
Post more videos!
watching this is kinda pointless. It's a 997 4S. It's great, obviously. Well made, looks good, sounds good, fast, comfortable, decent space in the car....
flatkreative
Automatic, gas-station car wash .... yikes /// bye
2 min of my life in, learned nothing. Hate this new youtuber format. Quit the advertising, get on with it.