As a 997.2 4S PDK owner, I have to say the only replacement model I keep looking at as a daily driver is the 991.2. The only reason is I think the 3.0T engine would be great for traffic conditions. Other than that, the 997.2 is the (almost) perfect 911. Mine's not going anywhere anytime soon.
First let me say: I love your YT channel........wonderful content, great editing, fantastic settings. So, please don’t take offense at anything I say! I’ve been driving Porsches as my daily drivers for 40+ years and I just have a few comments about this video. 1. I’m always amazed at Porsche owners who seem enthralled with the Launch Control feature. I just don’t get it..........Porsches are not big muscle dragsters. So, why? And, I only drive manual gearbox Porsches, so it makes even less sense except for the Dynamic Engine Mounts. 2. Every time I hear the word Taycan and see how almost all reviewers are over-the-top in their reviews, makes me want to cringe! The fact that we, as drivers, are literally being forced into an “electric world” of cars really rattles my cage! You didn’t do that, but you mentioned the model as possible replacement (?) for your 997, possibly the finest of all 911s ever made. And, I now drive a 991.2 which I absolutely love. But, the overall size of your car is so much better than mine! I guess this is just an “old man” rant since I’m now 75 years old, but I love driving so much that I still drive somewhere every single day just for the joy of driving and hearing the mechanical sounds of combustion-engine car and a Porsche’s glorious sound. This will all disappear with electric cars. I don’t really care how fast they are........it doesn’t interest me. PS: I raced motorcycles for 15 years, was a PCA DE instructor, and tracked Porsches for 10 ten years. My only saving grace is I’ll probably be six-feet-under by the time it all comes to an end. That, I’m happy about! Keep up the great job on your YT channel...........I truly love it!
Well said, I'm 58 and I feel electric vehicles are deplorable. My goodness will future Bose surround systems contain vintage 997 mechanical sounds?? I ride a BMW motorbike and cannot imagine shifting up through without hearing um nothing! The 997 review was fantastic it was honest, I'll be waiting for his next installment. As for you, just keep driving motion is a beautiful thing. Cheers 🇨🇦🏍👍
In the 997.1 the radio knob pulls straight off, wipe it down with some wd40 or dish soap and a rag, and the stickyness comes off making it brand new again
The car is solidly built. I’ve had mine since 2009 and nothing has gone wrong except a few minor parts like door locks mechanism and hood struts needing replacement.
Finally I find closer brethren in terms of car. I too have a 2011 997.2 S, only mine is not all wheel drive; don't need it in TX. Other than that, very similar to yours: meteorite gray, PDK, PSE, PASM, clear tail lights, etc. It has camel leather and 19 inch turbo wheels. Like you I love my 911. When I bought it, it only had 10K+ miles and as of May 2020 I'm coming up on 35K miles, so it is not my daily driver - I'd say more 30% to 50% of the time I drive the car. But I do drive it hard sometimes and it is simply put sublime on the asphalt, in curves with elevation. I haven't tracked it yet, but have driven it hard in Sport Plus. Hit me up if you want to learn more about my experience with the car.
i've had my '09 4S for a year and a half now, daily driver in Utah. It's been a similar experience to yours - just great. I too am not that big a fan of the electronic oil level. I have a 6 speed and it's just an amazing joy to drive.
I, too, dislike electronic oil level indicator. What if that sensor goes bad? I also love your shots of unique architectural shapes from the areas that you travel. Always cool to take notice for a moment. A 911 is art as is many of the things that you capture.
My first time here and I've found a great channel, having recently spent time in a 997 I'm agreeing with most points, I shall be perusing your videos over the coming days, I'm subbed !
"Poking around for other Porsches"! *I battle this all the time. Oh to be wealthy and have a fleet of them to choose from... I think you have two of the best of the best 911's made honestly. My dream car is a 997.2 GT3. OMG so much want.
I also drive a 997.2 c2S, but in Mexico-City! Tell me about rough roads! Nevertheless, even though it might seem crazy or senseless, I don't see myself letting go of this car for rational reasons. A fantastic driving experience and love to take it out on the weekends. No problem with that radio tuning button yet though...great video, keep it up!
Cool video! I am a Toronto transplant to LA. What no one has posted yet is the cost of maintenance. I have a 2016 991.1, that I had to get the 4 year maintenance done on, even though I only have 24,000 miles. It is required by Porsche, so regardless of milage, they look at time. My 3 year was just over $600, but my 4 year was $2,800. Ouch! To maintain the warranty, you need to follow their requirements, and this is at the dealership. Great car, but I feel we are getting screwed over on this. When the warranty is up, it will no longer be going to a Porsche dealership.
Take the radio knob off, pull it off, take a rag and IPA and wipe off the knob numerous times with lots of IPA, the sticky finish will come off and you will be left with a non sticky, new feeling, knob. Did this on my 997.1 GT3.
Very enjoyable video. I really liked the artistic scenery purposefully placed with the review. Thanks for the information. Loved the train going by then into slow motion at the end.
Replaced the radio knobs on mine, $9.92 - I felt it was worth it and trying to stop the process of further stickiness, well not worth my time. All in all one of the best cars I’ve had the pleasure of living with. You do truly become brand obsessive - well I am. Great video, great content. Mine - metour grey, terracotta full leather... love it. Cheers
I drove 140K km with my 997.2 C4S and I would say nearly the same as you. I have also the problem with seat (I dislike it too) but not the one with the radio button. I had a few parts to change (get ready for that if you drive in the snow, as said)... For sure, this car is really good and even if mine is now 13 years old, it is such a good car that I don't to want change it yet.
I’m using a 2011 c2 as a daily driver in Los Angeles. I feel exactly the same way about the car. Obsession. My only issue is more with the poor quality of LA roads than the car. Streets are incredibly rough around where I live so I’ve popped in a DSC pasm controller which helps quite a bit. If you upgraded what should you get? A newer GT3 touring would be on my dream list. I have a bit of a thing for the Carrera Ts. But I’ll also looking at 2011ish GTS coupes. A little more punch, the standard sports exhaust, and finding one with XM radio would be awesome. Great channel!
Great video and editing. What to get next? My wife says that her Macan GTS is the ultimate car -- like a 4 door 911 in Sport mode with lowering air suspension. On the other hand, I think the Taycan is spectacular, but over $200K in Canada.
Hi, I had the same issue with the sticky volume knob, Solution: cotton bud dipped in whiskey and a little patience, worked a treat. just keep rolling the cotton bud until it lifts all the goo.
Good review very informative very well shot video I like your production I wonder why you chose to go with pdk was it strictly because of Toronto traffic City and suburban driving or other reasons. I have a 996 c4s 6-speed manual and absolutely love it and it has a dipstick!!
Ah yeah a 997.2 C4 GTS would also be an amazing choice. Quite a novel car with beeing the 1st modern GTS. Otherwise you can't really replace a 911 with something else.... Cayman would be downgrade. Maybe a 991.2 Carrera T when the prices come down, but finding one with the rear-wheel-steering is nearly impossible.
Lol. Because sometimes when you get into the car and wanna drive away, it doesn't.. That's why you need a Porsche 997. Thanks for sharing your experiences though.
Great video, I agree with your points...they are awesome cars and with a little tweaking can be tuned to be a truly unique ...... I think these are keepers ... hard to swap it for another model...I would tweak it rather than swap...eg Evoms tune, and Sharkwerks tweaks.
Great video. I have the Turbo in the 997.1 same color. I think you misspoke at 7:12 of the video saying yours was "...air cooled of course..." honest mistake. Your rattles and squeaks are unusual. My 2008 with 50k miles doesn't make a single sound. Strange.
I too am still loving my 06 c4s manual trans, it has 65k on it now, purchased it last November and 0 issues so far. But I still eye bowling 2014 - 16s M6s comp package... I’ve been looking for the roof rack you have. Do you happen to have the link for it? Thanks for your vids man, I really enjoy them.
I don’t know where you would go from there if you were to replace the C4S. I guess 991? I really like the C4S with its reflector across the back, but I wouldn’t want the extra weight and moving parts if I didn’t need it (don’t live in a cold climate). I wish more 997.2s were available in general and more with three pedals. Way more 997.1s. But thanks to the recession, the “better” of the 2 997s has smaller numbers.
oil changes in the 997.2 is every 20k miles or 2 years. So if you keep changing he oil before then your wasting money. There is no need if you use fully synthetic. The electronic oil shows up EVERY TIME you put the key in the ignition. Because oil is that important, if it was just a physical stick you would never check it and when it needs oil you would know when its too late. Porsche Doesn't take chances, they don't make junk and its the most dependable car dealership ever. They do have the rare ones that have issues but not a whole line, it happens but its not common. If you care for a 911 correctly you can put "litterally" a million miles on it. Look up the million mile 911.
The oil level doesn’t show up EVERY TIME you get in it. You have to drive the car for at least 20 mins to warm up the engine to temp then park on a flat surface with the engine running and go through the oil menus to then select and sit and wait for sometimes a minute and a half to get the reading. I know I have a 997.2. I agree a dipstick would be better. Sometimes you top up the oil, drive somewhere with the intent on checking oil when you get there but forget. Then you think you will do it once you driven home before you pull onto your sloping drive then forget. Once you’ve remembered the oil indicator says, engine temp too low. Doh. Rinse and repeat.
Stupid how North American porsche need those two plastic bits on the bumper by the licence plate. In Europe we don't need to put them there. Think it's some stupid law.
If this is a daily driver as he says it is, a PDK makes much more sense then a manual especially stuck in traffic. But for a fun, weekend car I would certainly choose a manual transmission.
"Every mileage milestone"? No sir, you can't say that. You have to say "Every kilometerage milestone". Cultural appropriation and all. Please redo your video.
Starting watching your channel a year ago and broke down and bought me a 2007, 997 Turbo, black and black. Love it!
16 months on from taking delivery of my 997.2 C2S (2011) I love it. It's a special car that is looking better by the day. Ride is so dialed.
As a 997.2 4S PDK owner, I have to say the only replacement model I keep looking at as a daily driver is the 991.2. The only reason is I think the 3.0T engine would be great for traffic conditions. Other than that, the 997.2 is the (almost) perfect 911. Mine's not going anywhere anytime soon.
First let me say: I love your YT channel........wonderful content, great editing, fantastic settings. So, please don’t take offense at anything I say!
I’ve been driving Porsches as my daily drivers for 40+ years and I just have a few comments about this video.
1. I’m always amazed at Porsche owners who seem enthralled with the Launch Control feature. I just don’t get it..........Porsches are not big muscle dragsters. So, why? And, I only drive manual gearbox Porsches, so it makes even less sense except for the Dynamic Engine Mounts.
2. Every time I hear the word Taycan and see how almost all reviewers are over-the-top in their reviews, makes me want to cringe! The fact that we, as drivers, are literally being forced into an “electric world” of cars really rattles my cage! You didn’t do that, but you mentioned the model as possible replacement (?) for your 997, possibly the finest of all 911s ever made. And, I now drive a 991.2 which I absolutely love. But, the overall size of your car is so much better than mine!
I guess this is just an “old man” rant since I’m now 75 years old, but I love driving so much that I still drive somewhere every single day just for the joy of driving and hearing the mechanical sounds of combustion-engine car and a Porsche’s glorious sound. This will all disappear with electric cars. I don’t really care how fast they are........it doesn’t interest me. PS: I raced motorcycles for 15 years, was a PCA DE instructor, and tracked Porsches for 10 ten years.
My only saving grace is I’ll probably be six-feet-under by the time it all comes to an end.
That, I’m happy about!
Keep up the great job on your YT channel...........I truly love it!
I was looking for something to disagree with here but failed to do so, especially your 997 views
wow what a story
Agree. Been driving my 997 S for 10 Years. A true pleasure. When I hear Porsche going all electric, makes me mad.
so why not share youre extensive experience on YT?
Well said, I'm 58 and I feel electric vehicles are deplorable. My goodness will future Bose surround systems contain vintage 997 mechanical sounds?? I ride a BMW motorbike and cannot imagine shifting up through without hearing um nothing!
The 997 review was fantastic it was honest, I'll be waiting for his next installment. As for you, just keep driving motion is a beautiful thing. Cheers 🇨🇦🏍👍
In the 997.1 the radio knob pulls straight off, wipe it down with some wd40 or dish soap and a rag, and the stickyness comes off making it brand new again
2011 is a 997.2, you have to pop off the cover plater on the knob and un-screw it.
The car is solidly built. I’ve had mine since 2009 and nothing has gone wrong except a few minor parts like door locks mechanism and hood struts needing replacement.
Finally I find closer brethren in terms of car. I too have a 2011 997.2 S, only mine is not all wheel drive; don't need it in TX. Other than that, very similar to yours: meteorite gray, PDK, PSE, PASM, clear tail lights, etc. It has camel leather and 19 inch turbo wheels. Like you I love my 911. When I bought it, it only had 10K+ miles and as of May 2020 I'm coming up on 35K miles, so it is not my daily driver - I'd say more 30% to 50% of the time I drive the car. But I do drive it hard sometimes and it is simply put sublime on the asphalt, in curves with elevation. I haven't tracked it yet, but have driven it hard in Sport Plus. Hit me up if you want to learn more about my experience with the car.
Glad to see your back with new Porsche content!
Whats his back look like
i've had my '09 4S for a year and a half now, daily driver in Utah. It's been a similar experience to yours - just great. I too am not that big a fan of the electronic oil level. I have a 6 speed and it's just an amazing joy to drive.
I, too, dislike electronic oil level indicator. What if that sensor goes bad?
I also love your shots of unique architectural shapes from the areas that you travel. Always cool to take notice for a moment. A 911 is art as is many of the things that you capture.
My first time here and I've found a great channel, having recently spent time in a 997 I'm agreeing with most points, I shall be perusing your videos over the coming days, I'm subbed !
I’m dig’n your editing style... it feels original... you got yourself a new sub, sir... just got you on IG, too... keep it up 👍🏽
"Poking around for other Porsches"! *I battle this all the time. Oh to be wealthy and have a fleet of them to choose from... I think you have two of the best of the best 911's made honestly. My dream car is a 997.2 GT3. OMG so much want.
I just got a 992 and I'm praying that when the 4/50000 warranty ends I don't regret it!
I also drive a 997.2 c2S, but in Mexico-City! Tell me about rough roads! Nevertheless, even though it might seem crazy or senseless, I don't see myself letting go of this car for rational reasons. A fantastic driving experience and love to take it out on the weekends. No problem with that radio tuning button yet though...great video, keep it up!
Very nicely done video and great to see a Porsche UA-camr from TO! Love my 996 C4S but soon moving on to either a 997.2 or 991.2 - tough choice.
You're a cool & nice person, quality content & Porsche passion!
Cool video! I am a Toronto transplant to LA. What no one has posted yet is the cost of maintenance. I have a 2016 991.1, that I had to get the 4 year maintenance done on, even though I only have 24,000 miles. It is required by Porsche, so regardless of milage, they look at time. My 3 year was just over $600, but my 4 year was $2,800. Ouch! To maintain the warranty, you need to follow their requirements, and this is at the dealership. Great car, but I feel we are getting screwed over on this. When the warranty is up, it will no longer be going to a Porsche dealership.
Take the radio knob off, pull it off, take a rag and IPA and wipe off the knob numerous times with lots of IPA, the sticky finish will come off and you will be left with a non sticky, new feeling, knob. Did this on my 997.1 GT3.
Good vid! 3 years of ownership for me and the longer I own it the more I appreciate it. For the money I don't think there is a better car.
Would be cool to see someone do a longer term review between 911 and Mercedes AMG GTS.
Just subscribed! Great channel! Im in Japan but once I get stateside again, Ill go grab a 2014 C4...so this channel is like candy to me!
Very enjoyable video. I really liked the artistic scenery purposefully placed with the review. Thanks for the information. Loved the train going by then into slow motion at the end.
Replaced the radio knobs on mine, $9.92 - I felt it was worth it and trying to stop the process of further stickiness, well not worth my time. All in all one of the best cars I’ve had the pleasure of living with. You do truly become brand obsessive - well I am.
Great video, great content.
Mine - metour grey, terracotta full leather... love it. Cheers
Feel the same about my ‘12 GTS. Really great cars. Enjoy!
I drove 140K km with my 997.2 C4S and I would say nearly the same as you. I have also the problem with seat (I dislike it too) but not the one with the radio button. I had a few parts to change (get ready for that if you drive in the snow, as said)...
For sure, this car is really good and even if mine is now 13 years old, it is such a good car that I don't to want change it yet.
I’m using a 2011 c2 as a daily driver in Los Angeles. I feel exactly the same way about the car. Obsession. My only issue is more with the poor quality of LA roads than the car. Streets are incredibly rough around where I live so I’ve popped in a DSC pasm controller which helps quite a bit. If you upgraded what should you get? A newer GT3 touring would be on my dream list. I have a bit of a thing for the Carrera Ts. But I’ll also looking at 2011ish GTS coupes. A little more punch, the standard sports exhaust, and finding one with XM radio would be awesome. Great channel!
Im going to have to do the same soonni think... DSC pasm controller... roads in London are horrendous
Great video and editing. What to get next? My wife says that her Macan GTS is the ultimate car -- like a 4 door 911 in Sport mode with lowering air suspension. On the other hand, I think the Taycan is spectacular, but over $200K in Canada.
Another well-made and informative video - thank you!
Hi,
I had the same issue with the sticky volume knob, Solution: cotton bud dipped in whiskey and a little patience, worked a treat. just keep rolling the cotton bud until it lifts all the goo.
Good review very informative very well shot video I like your production I wonder why you chose to go with pdk was it strictly because of Toronto traffic City and suburban driving or other reasons. I have a 996 c4s 6-speed manual and absolutely love it and it has a dipstick!!
Ah yeah a 997.2 C4 GTS would also be an amazing choice. Quite a novel car with beeing the 1st modern GTS. Otherwise you can't really replace a 911 with something else.... Cayman would be downgrade. Maybe a 991.2 Carrera T when the prices come down, but finding one with the rear-wheel-steering is nearly impossible.
Sep 28 posted. Really hope the tires make it to October. 2 day to drive easy. Great video.
Great video. Love it!!
I love this car !!!!!! 911(997)
My dream car. Stunning!
Just go on, my 997.1 3.8 carerra S have passed 160000 km, no problems
Did you just say that the radio knob is a total nightmare? How about turning off the radio at all to enjoy the engine sound?
My thoughts exactly . You have the most beautiful radio in the back put the foot down and you will hear it .
Lol. Because sometimes when you get into the car and wanna drive away, it doesn't.. That's why you need a Porsche 997. Thanks for sharing your experiences though.
Nice video with nice informations and a good production!
Slow mo Canadian Pacific going by was a nice touch 😉
Great video, I agree with your points...they are awesome cars and with a little tweaking can be tuned to be a truly unique ...... I think these are keepers ... hard to swap it for another model...I would tweak it rather than swap...eg Evoms tune, and Sharkwerks tweaks.
Awesome review man! I agree with pretty much everything you said. Cheers!
It's nice. Where are you at mileage wise now? You need to take it on a ski trip and give me snow video? I'm glad you're happy.
Love the 996 4S
Well done sir 👍🏾
great series. will there be a next one?
Great video. I have the Turbo in the 997.1 same color. I think you misspoke at 7:12 of the video saying yours was "...air cooled of course..." honest mistake. Your rattles and squeaks are unusual. My 2008 with 50k miles doesn't make a single sound. Strange.
Great video quality!
Sticky knob.
That sounds like a personal problem.
Myself got a c2s 05, absolutely love it. If upgrading I would go for 997.2 turbo, anyhow the new 911 are turbocharged
I too am still loving my 06 c4s manual trans, it has 65k on it now, purchased it last November and 0 issues so far. But I still eye bowling 2014 - 16s M6s comp package... I’ve been looking for the roof rack you have. Do you happen to have the link for it? Thanks for your vids man, I really enjoy them.
How much you purchase and how many kms? Great content!
I don’t know where you would go from there if you were to replace the C4S. I guess 991? I really like the C4S with its reflector across the back, but I wouldn’t want the extra weight and moving parts if I didn’t need it (don’t live in a cold climate). I wish more 997.2s were available in general and more with three pedals. Way more 997.1s. But thanks to the recession, the “better” of the 2 997s has smaller numbers.
Hey neighbour! Sounds like you're experiencing the tip of the iceberg that my 997.1 C2S has gone through up the street. Like the roof rack!
What would be a better choice a 2014 base cayman or a 2007 997 911 carerra s I can get both for about the same price maybe the 911 is a bit higher?
That fender was a different color for the door
Can’t wait to drive my new (33k) 911 c4s
I bought the exact same car in the US. What winter tires and size are you using?
for the sticky radio knob, use your left hand going forward to pick boogers hahaaaaa
The 997 is kind of too similar to your 993. For a daily Porsche I would recommend a Macan - especially regarding your growing up kid!
Sticky knobs? Try some rubbing alcohol, works like a charm!
Hey buddy i have the exact same car with the exact same colour, and year with the exact same rims. Lets take pics LOL I live in Mississauga
This city is beautiful.. where is it?
Lets hit 911 likes on that video!
I have the same dislike with that electronic oil indicator of my 997.1 and the fan control is fading like a cheap rubber...
I would get the 997.1 which has Turbo Hans Mezger engine. This engine style is STILL used in today's race engine Porsche.
997 Turbo I mean.
The Mezger engine is no longer used in the racing Porsches, that stopped several years ago.
the info regarding price is no longer accurate... especially for the second gen 997s.. good luck finding one for what you say is a bargain..
Did u say your 997 is air cooled?
Do you hold shares in the Oil company...
My dream car I'm looking for one in manual boi are they hard to find
dont get a new one , get a rebuild and repaint etc if you are dead serious about getting a new one get 997.2 c4 gts
Next up the 991.1 4S 👍🏾
So weird, same with my radio knob on my 997.2
Next car should be a Stage 1 or 2 properly modified 997 or 996 Turbo... you're welcome 🤙
oil changes in the 997.2 is every 20k miles or 2 years. So if you keep changing he oil before then your wasting money. There is no need if you use fully synthetic. The electronic oil shows up EVERY TIME you put the key in the ignition. Because oil is that important, if it was just a physical stick you would never check it and when it needs oil you would know when its too late.
Porsche Doesn't take chances, they don't make junk and its the most dependable car dealership ever. They do have the rare ones that have issues but not a whole line, it happens but its not common. If you care for a 911 correctly you can put "litterally" a million miles on it. Look up the million mile 911.
The oil level doesn’t show up EVERY TIME you get in it. You have to drive the car for at least 20 mins to warm up the engine to temp then park on a flat surface with the engine running and go through the oil menus to then select and sit and wait for sometimes a minute and a half to get the reading. I know I have a 997.2. I agree a dipstick would be better. Sometimes you top up the oil, drive somewhere with the intent on checking oil when you get there but forget. Then you think you will do it once you driven home before you pull onto your sloping drive then forget. Once you’ve remembered the oil indicator says, engine temp too low. Doh. Rinse and repeat.
How much did you pay
Stupid how North American porsche need those two plastic bits on the bumper by the licence plate. In Europe we don't need to put them there. Think it's some stupid law.
such a shame north america still insist on the stupid ugly lumps on the rear bumper, they do nothing only make the cars look crap
No likes a sticky knob 😂
Must drive it like a Nancy boy getting 21mpg. That's too high. Push the car harder bro
cool but i dont speak canadian brah
I had to watch at 1.5 speed. Just a little too boring
4x4 stance too 😆
When you daily a 997 in the city and throughout the winter you definitely don't want to lower the car
"This one has the PDK transmission, something I was looking for specifically"
Well, I've never heard that one before.
Its a really good transmission. I love it.
If this is a daily driver as he says it is, a PDK makes much more sense then a manual especially stuck in traffic. But for a fun, weekend car I would certainly choose a manual transmission.
911 by VW.
nobody likes a sticky nob. clean it daily
"Every mileage milestone"? No sir, you can't say that. You have to say "Every kilometerage milestone". Cultural appropriation and all. Please redo your video.