Kickstarter Disaster DreamWorld MMO Turns Into Major Scandal, Scams & Unethical Practices Exposed

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  • @YongYea
    @YongYea  3 роки тому +488

    Uh... yeah... there's a lot here.
    SURPRISE MECHANICS (MERCH): www.yongyea.com
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    TOP PATRONS
    [CIPHER]
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    [BOSS]
    - Gerardo Andrade
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  • @pivotkid85
    @pivotkid85 3 роки тому +3604

    it literally looks like the kind of "fake video game" you see actors playing in movies and tv shows.

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 роки тому +17

      I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear pi

    • @nanashi1173
      @nanashi1173 3 роки тому +239

      @@AxxLAfriku go away

    • @ultimamage3
      @ultimamage3 3 роки тому +101

      @@nanashi1173 Just report the dude for spam as soon as you see his comment

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 3 роки тому +4

      @@AxxLAfriku i love u axle

    • @arigat-s0244
      @arigat-s0244 3 роки тому +54

      @@ultimamage3 He still keeps coming anyway, even when reported, that's literally why everyone is annoyed by the guy.

  • @MephiticMiasma
    @MephiticMiasma 3 роки тому +666

    "The last game you'll ever play"
    ...is that a threat?

    • @nyos22
      @nyos22 3 роки тому +74

      It is so horrible, you will never want to play video games again.

    • @GAMER_PUNK247
      @GAMER_PUNK247 3 роки тому +14

      It's the Ring of videogames

    • @danteblack1141
      @danteblack1141 3 роки тому +12

      @@nyos22 right, far too many people think theyll get rich quick by making a video game, but as dev time continues they realize theyre not making as much as they wanted to and drop the project claiming "we ran into too many issues and have decided to end development", which translates to "we got bored with not making a shit load of money and have decided to abandon the project, thank you to everyone who gave us free money tho"

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 3 роки тому +6

      Because it’s so bad, that it will give you a fatal brain aneurism.

    • @thaliacrafts407
      @thaliacrafts407 3 роки тому +9

      I think so. They are talking about adding a pause menu. Seeing as this is an MMO, that means they found a way to alter the spacetime continuum.

  • @MichaelB-jw5po
    @MichaelB-jw5po 3 роки тому +714

    "3 Devs are going to create an entire MMO in 8 months"
    How did this statement not immediately discourage everyone from backing this game?

    •  3 роки тому +45

      Technically TECHNICALLY, you could make a very basic MMO in a day. Not saying it would be a good one.

    • @anonshrimp8299
      @anonshrimp8299 3 роки тому +48

      @Frank Marano I have seen naive adults. There's legit adults who think they put microchips in Vaccines and those Vaccines make you a walking magnet. What's make you think there aren't similar adults who would believe this.
      Even still, idc how naive the person was, this is still illegal bussiness practices. They could be arrested for threatening peoples security.

    • @anonshrimp8299
      @anonshrimp8299 3 роки тому +3

      @Frank Marano I hope he does.

    • @lebitelexie9350
      @lebitelexie9350 3 роки тому +31

      People are not familiar with game development. Not even on the basic level. They don't realize how much money, resource and time it takes even with a large staff. I tend to remind people that Red Dead Redeption 2 were in development for around 7-8 years with a crew of over 4000 people.

    • @anonshrimp8299
      @anonshrimp8299 3 роки тому +14

      @@lebitelexie9350 Im taking a game design class and yeah, even making something like a simple game, it is REALLY difficult.

  • @jorgemigueltavares6041
    @jorgemigueltavares6041 3 роки тому +643

    Wish folks would stop calling them “developers.”
    *They're just conmen.*

    • @aaronadethegamer
      @aaronadethegamer 3 роки тому +11

      Developer conmen

    • @MyShiroyuki
      @MyShiroyuki 3 роки тому +24

      I hate there’s enough gullible people to make these scams profitable.

    • @meangreen8873
      @meangreen8873 3 роки тому +10

      They developed the con. Ayyy

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 3 роки тому +9

      How dare you sir.
      That is slander.
      I’ll have you know, they can badly implement door physics in 2 weeks and they’ve added non existent treasure chests into the game.
      Do you know how long it takes to code a door opening animation? Do you sir?
      These amazing examples of game developers, used their otherworldly skills, to code that door opening animation and implement into this groundbreaking game, in just 2 weeks.
      Not only that, but they managed to get the doors to open in 45 degree increments, over a single axis…….You just don’t get the level of skill needed, to even comprehend the level of coding and logic, that goes into an amazingly advanced feature like that.
      I’ll have you know, that anyone else, without the skills of these fine specimens, would take a whole 120 seconds to code and implement that very advanced feature.
      Have you seen their “speedy sidewalks” sir?
      Have you seen them?
      That also only took them 2 weeks to code and impliment…….That’s around 2 minutes work to us mere mortals.
      These developers are truly Gods among men.
      You should be ashamed sir……Calling these icons of the gaming industry “conmen.”
      Shame on you sir…..For shame!

    • @CapnRetro
      @CapnRetro 3 роки тому

      Jorge I second that.

  • @MyShiroyuki
    @MyShiroyuki 3 роки тому +447

    Sometimes I see these stories and think “Why don’t I just scam people for money since it’s so easy?” But then I remember I have the smallest shred of decency and actually give a crap about my fellow human beings.

    • @DragonballZDeep215
      @DragonballZDeep215 3 роки тому +17

      Lol yeah your the best bro.

    • @oompalumpus699
      @oompalumpus699 3 роки тому +27

      I had the same thoughts but with 'Magic Healing Rocks.' The area I lived in before had these smooth, shiny rocks and I was planning to just sell them online and make up BS about how the rocks can cure cancer because it's an alternative form of medicine.

    • @stanleyelliott6891
      @stanleyelliott6891 3 роки тому +37

      ​@@oompalumpus699 Making unsupported actual medical claims like that would get you in legal trouble. You'd need to claim that they are good luck charms or promote spiritual wellness.

    • @_pizzaboy9631
      @_pizzaboy9631 3 роки тому +7

      @@oompalumpus699 Hey I know those rock, they draw positive energy from the nature, the moon and all that shit right ? Then if you wear it as a necklace or on the wrist the rocks will suck the negative energy out of your body and therefore healing cancer etc... I thought we only have it in China and on Alibaba though

    • @trickyricky4731
      @trickyricky4731 2 роки тому +3

      That and when you get caught your life is effectively over

  • @JoshStrifeHayes
    @JoshStrifeHayes 3 роки тому +1983

    Yongs here, The cavalry has arrived

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +168

      Now we wait for when Jim Sterling comes with the eagles.

    • @karalarsen2634
      @karalarsen2634 3 роки тому +58

      Sound the horns lads, the reinforcements are here!!!

    • @Morninqstar
      @Morninqstar 3 роки тому +41

      I just name dropped you, told ppl to watch your videos, and scroll down to see you comment. Good shit bro.

    • @sarrakitty
      @sarrakitty 3 роки тому +34

      @@Rabbitlord108 Eh, Sterling has kinda lost their touch IMO. Always late to the party, never on the latest news.

    • @darkgather2808
      @darkgather2808 3 роки тому +15

      omg josh you are commenting everywhere u magnificent bastard! keep it upXd

  • @corbasm2
    @corbasm2 3 роки тому +603

    "The Last Game You'll Ever Play"
    Yeah, because by the time you're done hackers will already have remote access to you PC.

    • @Puddingskin01
      @Puddingskin01 3 роки тому +4

      Just to Old Yeller your poor PC because you have that garbage game on it.
      If anything they are doing you a service.

    • @andrewn8002
      @andrewn8002 3 роки тому +1

      More like: "The Last Game You'll Never Play." 😂

    • @ArchmageOfAnarchy
      @ArchmageOfAnarchy 3 роки тому +5

      Its framed like a threat though. "This is the last game you'll ever play, cos when you die in the game you die in real life! Mwhahahaha"

    • @UNIRockLIVE
      @UNIRockLIVE 3 роки тому +5

      Under rated comment

    • @UNIRockLIVE
      @UNIRockLIVE 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😆😂 had to comment twice too good 🤣

  • @piotrszczupak
    @piotrszczupak 3 роки тому +523

    I wonder who after watching this trailer thought: "Hmm that's totally legit game and not rough cluster of assets from free banks, i will fund it!"

    • @ShinyUmbreon106
      @ShinyUmbreon106 3 роки тому +56

      People are too dumb they see the promises and think they will all be in the game

    • @piotrszczupak
      @piotrszczupak 3 роки тому +58

      @@ShinyUmbreon106 In addition these goals seems to be so vague, none of them talks about actual plan, just: "Woo, ultra, biggest mmo ever made, for everyone, you can do everything, it's endless. Details are for losers with actual plan xd"

    • @gundamnit3594
      @gundamnit3594 3 роки тому +36

      You really have to ask? There are people who actually think the world is fucking flat now.

    • @aemo16
      @aemo16 3 роки тому +21

      Truly, a fool and his money are quickly parted

    • @TheNameCannotBeFound
      @TheNameCannotBeFound 3 роки тому +13

      It took me a double take to realize what was happening and gaming is my biggest hobby. Now imagine the THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of children with their parents' CC, teenagers, naive older folks, etc, and it's not hard to see how people fall for this.
      You severely underestimate how insightful you are about this because you've been in the middle of it your whole life. Many just pick up games casually. Many more don't even give a flying fuck if they get ripped or what they payed for. (Presumably) You follow news about gaming, you play many games, you're constantly reading headlines about games, you think every single gamer out there is as connected and involved to this as you are?
      The question was never ''I can't believe people fell for this'', but instead ''How many will fall for this before they get caught''.

  • @jacobszymczak9323
    @jacobszymczak9323 3 роки тому +84

    "The Last Game You'll Ever Play"
    "Indie developed MMO"
    "Goal, $10k"
    And people "invested" in this?

  • @Superboologan1
    @Superboologan1 3 роки тому +436

    Y'know? In a sense, I'm kinda happy this happened. We haven't had a good shady indie dev story in a while

    • @the_furry_inside_your_walls639
      @the_furry_inside_your_walls639 3 роки тому +8

      Haven't heard this much of an uproar about an indie dev since the Day of Dragons fiasco. What happened to that game anyways?

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 3 роки тому +15

      I you think this is crazy bad, look up "Earth 2"

    • @blazingcynder6617
      @blazingcynder6617 3 роки тому +2

      @@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 I was just wondering the same thing after learning about this today from Gym Leader Ed warning his community about this scam. Has it improved or has it really shown its face to be a scam?

    • @dachel683
      @dachel683 3 роки тому +2

      @@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 never herd of day of dragons,whats up with that?

    • @duskblade1119
      @duskblade1119 3 роки тому +7

      @@dachel683 In theory? The Isle, but with dragons. In reality? See the above video, but with dragons. That's the short version.

  • @TheFallofTheEleventh
    @TheFallofTheEleventh 3 роки тому +485

    Fun fact: the blank white character model in this “game” was actually slightly modified by the makers to have nipples but that’s it. That’s literally the only thing they added to the model. Nipples…….64 grand folks

    • @vocalcalibration8033
      @vocalcalibration8033 3 роки тому +50

      Priorities.

    • @chinchilla505
      @chinchilla505 3 роки тому +48

      These dudes snorted a bunch of Adderall, watched a bunch of unity (unreal*) tutorials, then decided it was time to cash out XD

    • @warhawk_yt
      @warhawk_yt 3 роки тому +50

      Lol. From just briefly looking at it I instantly recognized it as the default unreal engine character model. That’s funny that they didnt even create a character they just gave the default one nipples.

    • @rudeboyjohn3483
      @rudeboyjohn3483 3 роки тому +12

      @Slak Kap beat me to it, caped crusader

    • @johnratfink7343
      @johnratfink7343 3 роки тому +2

      It's a good change!

  • @michel0dy
    @michel0dy 3 роки тому +428

    In design college we often say that: "if you say your target audience is everyone, then your target audience is no one."

    • @historyafficionado478
      @historyafficionado478 3 роки тому +36

      Same concept as When Everyone is Super
      No one will be. Such a simple yet unfathomable concept for some people its insane.

    • @j.l.z.m6172
      @j.l.z.m6172 3 роки тому +14

      Same goes with sales and marketing 🤣 learn the hard way

    • @thewhompingwampa2671
      @thewhompingwampa2671 3 роки тому +32

      Making a game is like making a cake. You can't just throw every ingredient into it at once or it'll taste terrible.

    • @ALG2691
      @ALG2691 3 роки тому +20

      The everyone and no one line is so versatile.
      “when it’s everyone’s job, it’s nobody’s.”
      “If it’s nobody’s problem, then it’ll become everyone’s.”
      There are many others, but two will suffice for now.

    • @jmoney1139
      @jmoney1139 3 роки тому +9

      @@ALG2691 give two more now daddy please

  • @Skellington77
    @Skellington77 3 роки тому +123

    Who legit looked at that game trailer and said "Yeah that seems like a real product with real goals. I'll give it 300 dollars"

    • @4TheWinQuinn
      @4TheWinQuinn 3 роки тому +17

      *People who aren’t very smart. period.

    • @theangrywig3905
      @theangrywig3905 3 роки тому +15

      "Yeah this looks like ass, drop $300"

    • @johnratfink7343
      @johnratfink7343 3 роки тому +9

      Blind People who thought they were ordering insulin money off of Amazon.

    • @TG-ge1oh
      @TG-ge1oh 3 роки тому

      @@johnratfink7343 I died 🤣🤣🤣

  • @antikiller8472
    @antikiller8472 3 роки тому +166

    This looks exactly like the kind of game I made using unreal when I was studying my game design bachelor's in college.

    • @Not_An_EV
      @Not_An_EV 3 роки тому +12

      We had to use unity to make a game level and pixel game maker to also make a level. I think these guys should just invest in pixel game maker and learn that instead.

    • @Gordoxgrey
      @Gordoxgrey 3 роки тому +2

      Looks like my Greybox level from one of my personal projects haha

    • @nexxyproto3495
      @nexxyproto3495 3 роки тому +1

      this is the stuff i used to do with unity and it's assets years ago when i understood the platform

  • @clarkecorvo2692
    @clarkecorvo2692 3 роки тому +129

    this is amazing. they literally promised EVERYTHING and ppl give him money.. i wanna become a con-artist aswell now!

    • @arteljus983
      @arteljus983 3 роки тому +11

      They learned it from CDPR and Cyberpunk 2077.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому

      Hearing about this makes me wanna watch The Music Man (The good version. Not the crappy Disney version)

    • @arteljus983
      @arteljus983 3 роки тому +9

      @Mr.Springtrap What? CDPR Promised one thing and we got something else. It was not just the bugs. Parts of the game are missing, core game mechanics are missing, cop system was done in last few days so there would be something there...It´s all made to misslead people. Release was made to mislead and controll the outcome. The game we ware promised was years away. Maybe not 5 but at least 2. And what do you mean "you guys"? I told people that there ware many red flags but i was jump on because it´s CDPR and it´s gonna be perfect. Just few people ware also seeng problems but majority was blown away buy that superb PR.

    • @arteljus983
      @arteljus983 3 роки тому +7

      @Mr.Springtrap If you told me that before CP2077 i would not believe that either. But they did it. Their intention from the begining was not to scam peole but something happened in the developement fase. They cut out what they could use and released it. So many lies and restrictions on the release. Also no reviews on consoles on release day. It was all conciously manipulated because they whanted to make as much as possible before the true got out. They scammed people. Even Sony removed the game from their store...How many has this happened on a release on AAA game? Never! CDPR are not what they ware before and i will never buy anything from them again. Not because of how bad CP2077 was but what they did to cover up and lie on the release to scam people of money. I hope others do the same and never buy their products again. Things like this should never be tolerated.

    • @clownworld4655
      @clownworld4655 3 роки тому +6

      @@arteljus983 man someone’s real butthurt. There is a major difference between a scam and a game that was released a few years too early

  • @TrueDiox
    @TrueDiox 3 роки тому +310

    When a game has to present itself explaining how "we know this looks like a scam but we promise it's not a scam", you can be preeetty sure it's a scam.

    • @JPogi690
      @JPogi690 3 роки тому +2

      If I were you guys. You need to check "Ashes of Creation" they are the most promising mmo to be released in the future. In fact they have UA-cam Channel to show their progress. Just type "Ashes of Creation YT Channel".

    • @gamerinatrance3618
      @gamerinatrance3618 3 роки тому +16

      I mean you can tell it's going to be rough when it uses the default Unreal Engine character models and UI fonts and has no artistic cohesion whatsoever.

    • @sh1leshk4
      @sh1leshk4 3 роки тому +9

      It's one of those telltale signs like "I'm not trying to be racist, but ..." which means it's gonna be a racist statement.

    • @TrueDiox
      @TrueDiox 3 роки тому +3

      You can tell it's gonna be rough when devs boast about who's funding it.

    • @Fenriswolfer77
      @Fenriswolfer77 3 роки тому

      @@JPogi690
      Yes, that game looks so good, I'm looking forward to it, since first hearing from it

  • @grimsprice
    @grimsprice 3 роки тому +122

    "The story gets crazier as..."
    I don't believe you.
    (60 seconds later)
    ..... ok. You right.

  • @Gogo32monkey
    @Gogo32monkey 3 роки тому +286

    "Every genre!"
    Can't wait to play the world's first ever racing shooter puzzle action adventure horror platformer RPG sports title

    • @LaserStorm117
      @LaserStorm117 3 роки тому +28

      Hell yeah! Point and click, SRPG, racing RTS

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 3 роки тому +2

      Somewhat like _Ratchet & Clank_ meets any Halloween theme game.

    • @MrCreamster20
      @MrCreamster20 3 роки тому +6

      @@JamesDavy2009 Atleast the R&C series has a unique identity of 3rd person adventure shooter with a story, comprehensive game mechanics, visually stunning environments and well designed weapon systems. There's elements or other things like racing/rail riding/parkour etc.. but it's core identity remains the same and these additional elements fit the scene in which they are used.

    • @hazim9529
      @hazim9529 3 роки тому +12

      @@JamesDavy2009 Except Ratchet and Clank is a successful franchise, unlike this 'game' here.
      Also, apart from R&C, another franchise that incorporates mishmash of genres is probably the Yakuza series. Mood whiplash is real in that one.

    • @MisterKetch
      @MisterKetch 3 роки тому +2

      @@hazim9529 yea but the yakuza games are cohesive. The main core of them all are typically incredibly serious/dramatic story lines grounded in at least a semi plausible real world. Then it branches off into wacky hijinks sub stories/quests. Then throw in whatever mini game the developer wanted to work on (slot racing, drone racing etc)
      From a development stand point Yakuza games make sense and don't seem like they'd be more difficult then any other title to develop.

  • @moedelaun
    @moedelaun 3 роки тому +65

    That guy reminds me of every jerk I graduated with that now “works at Self Employed” and posts nothing but bait for their weight loss pyramid schemes. I know one that made his own website to sell his services. It includes a rather endearing description of himself in the third person. Very punchable face as well. 10/10 for entertainment.

  • @Dante02d12
    @Dante02d12 3 роки тому +75

    I've started learning Unreal Engine a few weeks ago. I recognize almost every single asset from this """game""". They're all free on the UE marketplace.
    This shit is hilarious... in a kinda sad way.
    Also, "the last game you'll ever play" is a terrible marketing approach, lol.

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 3 роки тому +1

      Hows the gamedev life going.

    • @YAUUN
      @YAUUN 2 роки тому +2

      Makes me think it will mentally scar you so badly that looking at a console or opening Steam will give you flashbacks.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 11 місяців тому

      Two years later and I still can't believe they took a card out of the hats of the people who were selling UnitZ on Steam.

  • @vocalcalibration8033
    @vocalcalibration8033 3 роки тому +418

    "Import 3D models from anywhere"
    Everyone would have been naked.

    • @transfo9985
      @transfo9985 3 роки тому +81

      Aight lemme just import my 50 quintillion polygon model of my butt and crash everyone's PC including the "devs", why ? Because the devs gave us this ability, i damn well am gonna use it

    • @5calambres
      @5calambres 3 роки тому +28

      Millions of players and everyone use his own skin. Damn to load the game you have to download stuff for 300 days untill you can start xD

    • @Breeezylol-
      @Breeezylol- 3 роки тому +25

      Not a great idea considering you can import *ANY* 3D model. Next thing you know there'll be imports of..

    • @TR33ZY_CRTM
      @TR33ZY_CRTM 3 роки тому +39

      @@Breeezylol-
      ...3D big tiddy anime waifus everywhere

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 3 роки тому +6

      @@TR33ZY_CRTM I was think of something more.... illegal

  • @SanelyRed
    @SanelyRed 3 роки тому +221

    DreamWorld "The last game you'll ever play" Is that a threat?

  • @jpm8288
    @jpm8288 3 роки тому +77

    If you ever doubted your ability to start a business, remember that there were customers who gave money to a game that looked like this.

    • @Bobobox95
      @Bobobox95 3 роки тому +2

      Don’t blame the people that funded it, the MMO scene is so dry that really anything you can get your hands on you want to believe in.

    • @BichaelStevens
      @BichaelStevens 3 роки тому

      MMOs today are just 100000 WoW clones

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco 3 роки тому

      I mean only several hundred and less than $100 each, but still.

  • @-42-47
    @-42-47 3 роки тому +18

    The tech demonstrated in Dreamworld is impressive, the game lacks functional lighting yet it's exceptionally shady.

  • @DawnOfTheOzz
    @DawnOfTheOzz 3 роки тому +51

    Dreamworld devs: We're naming our game "Dreamworld."
    Dreamworld Theme Park owners: Should we sue or should we go now?

    • @hanro50
      @hanro50 2 роки тому +2

      ... likely will end in a lawsuit if a DMCA claim/cease and desist doesn't stop them first. If you're curious why, it won't be because the theme park owners are jerks. It'll be their obligation to sue due to how copyright law works.

  • @DaengieDraws
    @DaengieDraws 3 роки тому +91

    Not even the seatbelt was able to save me from the amount of whiplash I experienced learning people actually invested their cash into this.

    • @DisDatK9
      @DisDatK9 3 роки тому +9

      Seriously, just looking at the Kickstarter I was like “Who would even want to play this piece of shit? Obviously those are false promises.” But nope, apparently it’s not that obvious.

    • @almalone3282
      @almalone3282 3 роки тому +1

      look up earth 2 its even worse

    • @Xonarag
      @Xonarag 3 роки тому

      I'm thinking/hoping that at least some of them were fake backers to raise attention I mean it was probably a scam from the start so I don't see why they wouldn't do other scam tactics.

    • @johnratfink7343
      @johnratfink7343 3 роки тому +1

      I heard they are going to launch a crypto soon, DreamCoin. Git in quick b4 to the moon!

  • @Aussie_Tom
    @Aussie_Tom 3 роки тому +67

    I have to thank Dreamworld, if it wasn't for this 'game' I would have never discovered Josh Strife Hayes, Callum Upton and KiraTV

    • @CallumUpton
      @CallumUpton 3 роки тому +23

      💜 the real dreamworld was the friends we made along the way

    • @Aussie_Tom
      @Aussie_Tom 3 роки тому +7

      @@CallumUpton Thank you for your service kings ❤

    • @awolf6473
      @awolf6473 3 роки тому +2

      This is rather wholesome and I can actually agree with this, I'd of never discovered them if this whole thing didn't blow up so much.

    • @ate_my_wheaties
      @ate_my_wheaties 3 роки тому +3

      Skiazos too! He overloaded the server with 250,000 peppers, it’s a great part of this whole story

    • @awolf6473
      @awolf6473 3 роки тому

      @@ate_my_wheaties ahh yes I saw one of Josh Strife Hayes' videos on it, I'm glad Skiazos went from being a die hard defender to seeing the scam's true colors.

  • @JackDeLexus525
    @JackDeLexus525 3 роки тому +144

    "The Last Game You'll Ever Play"
    Hmm... Maybe It can mean that The game will be so bad, that you'll quit gaming entirely. If that's the case, That's kinda makes sense.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 3 роки тому +4

      It'd be up there with Hong Kong '97, Big Rigs, ET and Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +7

      @@JamesDavy2009 Don't forget edgy crap like Ride To Hell Retribution.

    • @ratboi535
      @ratboi535 3 роки тому +2

      A good cure for gaming addiction, the dev will surely get a nobel prize for that

    • @67byte20
      @67byte20 3 роки тому

      @@JamesDavy2009 Those games have an art direction, gameplay, music and work done.
      I'd say each one of those games is 100x better lol

  • @divagaciones1628
    @divagaciones1628 3 роки тому +85

    The fact that Yong, a youtube outside the MMO community is discussing this, says a lot lol

    • @kiddhkane
      @kiddhkane 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, it says that he didn't have anything actually interesting to talk about and the views are dropping lol

    • @tyran5996
      @tyran5996 3 роки тому

      Well he lost a lot of support from his blatant shilling of Cyberpunk. Gotta make up for it somehow.

    • @BBaaaaa
      @BBaaaaa 3 роки тому +7

      @@tyran5996 I'm kinda on edge about that, really didn't want to stop supporting him but reading about it in comments and stuff makes me want to rethink it. He really messed up

  • @SwitchbackCh
    @SwitchbackCh 3 роки тому +4

    Kaplan sounds the kind of guy who was pampered and told all his life that he was going to change the world just by existing.

  • @misakamikoto8785
    @misakamikoto8785 3 роки тому +86

    Employer: Why should we hire you?
    Me: I had 10 years of experience in several SP 500 companies.
    My resume: McDonald's cook, Wendy's cashier, Chipotle's delivery driver.

    • @elgigante2001
      @elgigante2001 3 роки тому +32

      Reminds me of the guy that got a job because in his resume he wrote he handled the daily transactions of a multi million dollar company. They later found out he was a cashier for McDonald's.

    • @themurmeli88
      @themurmeli88 3 роки тому +7

      That's still a 100x better and more impressive, than having "diversity officer" as job experience.

    • @chronenojysk5107
      @chronenojysk5107 3 роки тому +24

      @@elgigante2001 i mean he is not wrong, lmao.

    • @shinon748
      @shinon748 3 роки тому +7

      @@elgigante2001 i mean he's not wrong though.

    • @SaintAlessa
      @SaintAlessa 3 роки тому

      @@themurmeli88 what’s a diversity officer?

  • @MisogynyMan
    @MisogynyMan 3 роки тому +316

    "Can't have a security issue if there's no security!"

  • @patentedorganism1557
    @patentedorganism1557 3 роки тому +327

    I tell ya, from watching people playing the “alpha”, this whole fiasco is a wild ride.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 3 роки тому +3

      I think you mean 'playing' the 'alpha'. :) I think Star Citizen is a wilder ride but that is taking a long time. It might be 2030 before that thing finally implodes.

    • @def-po8tu
      @def-po8tu 3 роки тому +4

      @@Jordan-Ramses the amount of money Star citizen had made is ridiculous

  • @zanza7929
    @zanza7929 3 роки тому +60

    Something to note: Zach's idea's of "Core Aegis" and the city of Elyisum ingame seem to be ripped ideas straight out of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 lol

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +11

      I hope Nintendo sends them a C&D for doing that.

    • @moistloaf3854
      @moistloaf3854 3 роки тому

      IM REALLY FEELING IT

  • @monarksrgendemrkeand3412
    @monarksrgendemrkeand3412 3 роки тому +14

    Before I say anything else, I sincerely think that you have a clear speaking voice with good pronounciation. It's nice to listen to it and I appreciate things like this :)

  • @thrace_bot1012
    @thrace_bot1012 3 роки тому +61

    Con Artists like these are the reason Kickstarter has harnessed such a foul reputation, despite it having fostered projects which turned out to be absolute Masterpieces like Hollow Knight.

    • @Kim-py3iv
      @Kim-py3iv 3 роки тому +14

      Don't forget about it Shovel Knight and Bloodstained. I can't say the same thing for Yooka Laylee even though I do like that game.

    • @Xfushion2
      @Xfushion2 3 роки тому +9

      Honestly is more of the backers fault. Almost all failed game kickstarters are like this game: an asset flip that promised features that not even AAA devs can't implement.
      One of the most recent ones I can remember is Day of dragons. Its initial demo was a unity HD environment a with a dragon character running around with bad animations and still got 500k, and the game still in a early beta state with no primary gameplay implemented.
      Like if people continue to back obvious asset flips they shouldn't be surprised at all the project never comes out.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 3 роки тому +4

      Much as its reputation for video games is terrible,it actually has a very Good reputation (or, well, did last I checked) when it comes to boardgames. It probably helps that, with the possible exception of the owners of the largest publishers, no one ever actually gets Rich making board games. The best creators make a decent living off it, the rest do it mostly as a side job or as a hobbie that occasionally pays for itself.

    • @leaningtower201
      @leaningtower201 3 роки тому

      Holy shit I didnt think Hollow Knight would be from Kickstarter

    • @leaningtower201
      @leaningtower201 3 роки тому

      Holy shit I didnt think Hollow Knight would be from Kickstarter

  • @PurposelessRabbitholes
    @PurposelessRabbitholes 3 роки тому +855

    I’m only like 3 minutes in but I love how Yong can barely keep a straight face here lmao

    • @PurposelessRabbitholes
      @PurposelessRabbitholes 3 роки тому +52

      How the fuck were people duped by this

    • @tldr365
      @tldr365 3 роки тому +31

      @@PurposelessRabbitholes You have no idea how stupid people can be.

    • @dantethewanderer4989
      @dantethewanderer4989 3 роки тому +17

      @@PurposelessRabbitholes I guarantee it's because they know barely _anything_ about how games are made, how game development works, and how somethings just aren't technologically possible at the moment.

    • @ludwigtheholyblade777
      @ludwigtheholyblade777 3 роки тому +6

      @@dantethewanderer4989 yeah but you would think they know you need more than 60k to create a mmorpg

    • @stronk8107
      @stronk8107 3 роки тому +1

      @@PurposelessRabbitholes Desperate people probably

  • @ConnorTheUndying
    @ConnorTheUndying 3 роки тому +255

    "Promising the moon, making promises that even triple-A mmo's can't touch."
    I think Endwalker has something to say.

    • @Kinchansan
      @Kinchansan 3 роки тому +18

      "Ffxiv has entered the chat"

    • @johnratfink7343
      @johnratfink7343 3 роки тому +6

      **Star Citizen walks into the room.**
      "Allow us to introduce ourselves"

    • @Slaggedfire
      @Slaggedfire 3 роки тому +38

      @@johnratfink7343 Haha. I admire your optimism that the game will ever release.

    • @Superbattheman1
      @Superbattheman1 3 роки тому +3

      Does anyone recommend ffxiv? I’ve never played an MMO and this would be my first

    • @kodiak6389
      @kodiak6389 3 роки тому +12

      @@Superbattheman1 Hell yeah the start before the first dlc heavensward is a bit slow (but still very good) and after that its just amazing its like a addictive netflix series and the community is absolute lovable :)

  • @dh1380
    @dh1380 3 роки тому +21

    "The most game ever" has already been made and it is called Deadly Premonition

  • @fernandofaria2872
    @fernandofaria2872 3 роки тому +50

    This guy is probably a compulsive/pathlogical liar.

  • @JackChappleShow
    @JackChappleShow 3 роки тому +668

    ooooo boy I was hoping for a video on this haha

    • @madhero9915
      @madhero9915 3 роки тому +8

      Wait until yandere dev's turn

    • @r3gret2079
      @r3gret2079 3 роки тому

      Riight?

    • @Glad_I_Could_Help
      @Glad_I_Could_Help 3 роки тому +1

      Bigfry and Sid Alpha hit this up a day or two ago with also discussing the earth 2 controversy

    • @nBasedAce
      @nBasedAce 3 роки тому +1

      @@Glad_I_Could_Help Yeah, YongYea is always late to the party. I wonder why he ever reports on the news since he always does it days after everyone else does. His original Cyberpunk 2077 reviews shows just how comitted he is to reporting on the news.

    • @mrcrazy8032
      @mrcrazy8032 3 роки тому

      Oh boy 3am!

  • @HonduranMegatron
    @HonduranMegatron 3 роки тому +176

    “We want 10 grand to make an MMO with an infinite open world”
    Yeah, good luck with that

    • @eile4219
      @eile4219 3 роки тому +8

      You should not expect anything in return when you fund those kickstarter or fundme. They are 70% scam.

    • @HonduranMegatron
      @HonduranMegatron 3 роки тому +7

      @@eile4219 Exactly, Kickstarter is like gambling, putting money into it is a huge risk since there’s no certainty that the project will succeed or fail

    • @blas_gamedev
      @blas_gamedev 3 роки тому +2

      To be fair, minecraft is technically that. But these clowns are just asset flippers.

    • @Carnage7209
      @Carnage7209 3 роки тому

      Not even enough to run the server lolol

    • @HonduranMegatron
      @HonduranMegatron 3 роки тому +3

      @@blas_gamedev But at least Minecraft didn’t promise “millions of players in one server”

  • @Hotlooksamerica
    @Hotlooksamerica 3 роки тому +72

    I would respect them if they named it something honest like “Stock Asset Kickstart Moneygrab”

    • @sivartb7273
      @sivartb7273 3 роки тому +5

      ...survive"

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +1

      Now I bet someone will try to do a Kickstarter where part of the footage is just UnitZ.

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 3 роки тому +1

      Thatd be a kinda funny gag, a spoof game of the kickstarter scams.

  • @halcyonzenith4411
    @halcyonzenith4411 3 роки тому +19

    These "developers" didn't need to create DreamWorld, they were already living in one

  • @Akairen
    @Akairen 3 роки тому +34

    When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Don't be like DreamWorld.

  • @judeivanguevarra1687
    @judeivanguevarra1687 3 роки тому +76

    it seems betraying the backers' trust is becoming a bit too common for kickstarters

    • @Ramen-ms9xn
      @Ramen-ms9xn 3 роки тому +8

      it was already screaming "SCAM MMO HERE" to everybody already

    • @yoloswaggins2161
      @yoloswaggins2161 3 роки тому +14

      If you back something that looks like that it's your fault that your money is gone.

  • @Lovuschka
    @Lovuschka 3 роки тому +88

    Yong: "There's copyrighted music in the game!"
    Me: "Well, that's a good thing. At least something they made themselves."
    Yong: "They didn't pay for the license."
    Me: "Oh, nevermind. It's someone else's copyright!"

    • @Skellington77
      @Skellington77 3 роки тому +16

      "Yeah we have licensed music"
      "Oh sweet so how long did you take making it"
      "Yes :^)"

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +4

      This is Fur Fun using Banjo-Kazooie music levels of sleazy.

  • @Matagatsu
    @Matagatsu 3 роки тому +455

    Your english teacher: " *This is why you NEED TO read carefully* "

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 3 роки тому +12

      Or even learn how to actually read English. Devil in the Details.

    • @Breeezylol-
      @Breeezylol- 3 роки тому +20

      READ NIGGUH REAAD

    • @ragnarok7976
      @ragnarok7976 3 роки тому +1

      There is something fishy about English classes too. 8 years in elementary school, 4 more in high school, then 50% of my classes are English style book report classes and my "electives" had to be the same... I took programming in college, not English. Seems like there are a bunch of people with useless English degrees and they do the hiring.

    • @Altares_V
      @Altares_V 3 роки тому

      @@ragnarok7976 you serious? There isn't such thing as English degrees. Lol you just need to have a firm grasp on the language cuz believe it or not a lot of people in America can't utilize the language to a useful degree. English teachers do however have the capability to influence more teachers in general. There's nothing nefarious about it on a surface level but Homework does turn out to be worthless to most individuals.

    • @ragnarok7976
      @ragnarok7976 3 роки тому

      @@Altares_V There is such thing, believe it or not. One of my teachers in college had an English degree, a PHD actually (I know because she insisted on being called "Doctor", and brought it up every chance she got). Couldn't find anything she published, or any citations of her work though.
      Well case and point, English is a massive part of public curriculum but most people can't use it very effectively.
      I don't think what I said has to be nefarious. People with these English degrees think they have value so when and if they hire they look for that. It's more so incompetence and narcissism, as far as I'm concerned.

  • @cornishdinosaur
    @cornishdinosaur 3 роки тому +5

    Personally I've had nothing but positive experiences with Kickstarter, the idea that some dirty scammers might tarnish that reputation for other users saddens me.

  • @rhuanhollands
    @rhuanhollands 3 роки тому +46

    “A Caplan’s Diamond” should become a turn of phrase imo lol, it would have the same meaning as fake gold

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg 3 роки тому

      We already have that phrase: "Have you heard about that new MMO scam, DreamWorld? Yeah, it's nothing but Fool's Gold."

  • @peterc5264
    @peterc5264 3 роки тому +132

    DreamWorld- The Last Game You'll Ever Play
    Me: "Good thing I'll never be able to play it."

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco 3 роки тому

      Comment section over.

    • @jpeake13
      @jpeake13 3 роки тому +1

      Don't talk like that, God forbid they make a flat level for you to walk around in and call it "game done" lmao

  • @flipergonzalez3878
    @flipergonzalez3878 3 роки тому +29

    That grey dummy is the character template that comes with Unreal engine, that "trailer" was basically made using unreal's third person perspective game template and adding a bunch of bought (or pirated) assets into it. You could make that trailer in a day without needing to know much.

    • @rawrdino7046
      @rawrdino7046 3 роки тому +5

      It's kinda depressing that people backed it .-. Didn't someone tell people it was just basic assets! Hell it even look like assets taken together

    • @gamerinatrance3618
      @gamerinatrance3618 3 роки тому

      True, it even uses the default font in the UI and the widgets for it aren't aligned properly either.

  • @dawnsluna5702
    @dawnsluna5702 3 роки тому +167

    "The last game you'll ever play" sounds like a threat

    • @alastoralken2728
      @alastoralken2728 3 роки тому +9

      Cuz with all the problem the game have , its going to give you a spontaneous brain Aneurysm

    • @TR33ZY_CRTM
      @TR33ZY_CRTM 3 роки тому +1

      That's because as mentioned in the video, hackers can gain remote access to your PC, and you'll never be able to play another game again

    • @SatanicBarbeque
      @SatanicBarbeque 3 роки тому +4

      It is 🤣 you'll never be able to afford another game again once your identity gets stolen 40 times before you even finish creating your character lol

  • @jamesbullo
    @jamesbullo 3 роки тому +15

    2 devs without ever shipping a game is enough to know to stay away.

  • @djkk666
    @djkk666 3 роки тому +91

    "A fucking Frankenstein of cut and paste code," I'm dying 😂

    • @luisf2793
      @luisf2793 3 роки тому +8

      And I thought I was a horrible script kiddie

    • @kaze0fox
      @kaze0fox 3 роки тому +3

      Even the shittiest skiddie user knows to a general account if something is totally shit.

    • @jack-exzolt9858
      @jack-exzolt9858 3 роки тому +6

      Reminds me of Yandere Simulator.

    • @Araneus21
      @Araneus21 3 роки тому +1

      @@jack-exzolt9858 they could hire him to help with the code, it could use some spaghetti !

    • @tazdivil6527
      @tazdivil6527 3 роки тому

      Where was that line?

  • @nickharper8682
    @nickharper8682 3 роки тому +60

    This looked sus from the outset, I don’t understand how people could back this.

    • @shanobian
      @shanobian 3 роки тому +23

      Never underestimate stupidity

    • @sivartb7273
      @sivartb7273 3 роки тому +6

      Anything in a high concentration is bad.

    • @ajoajoajoaj
      @ajoajoajoaj 3 роки тому +4

      @The censored Racist
      Imagine calling people retarded when you can't tell the mathematical difference between 4% and 0.02%.

    • @moenibus
      @moenibus 3 роки тому

      The muricans and their big problem with literacy. "Sus". Knob. Is that hard to write suspicious?

    • @moenibus
      @moenibus 3 роки тому

      @@ajoajoajoaj and your point being? He is completely right. Muppet

  • @Drakulas77
    @Drakulas77 3 роки тому +48

    Well, someone just guaranteed themselves a successful career in the triple A games industry. EA and Activision are going to be fighting over who gets this guy.

    • @joshuameeks3689
      @joshuameeks3689 3 роки тому +5

      Probably EA since the guy has such a punch able face. Andrew would shake hands with him no doubt.

    • @kinryuten
      @kinryuten 3 роки тому

      @@joshuameeks3689 He looks like Charlie Day on meth.

    • @Breeezylol-
      @Breeezylol- 3 роки тому

      They wouldn't want that guy anyway since he knows nothing about making games

    • @joshuameeks3689
      @joshuameeks3689 3 роки тому

      @@kinryuten lol now I cant unsee that 🤣

    • @hankjones4692
      @hankjones4692 3 роки тому +1

      @@Breeezylol- but making games isn't EA's or Activision's main priority... making money is.

  • @ant0ine2
    @ant0ine2 3 роки тому +36

    Infinite MMO.
    These people probably watch ready player one and thought, "hey, we could do that".

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +4

      And the "Last game you'll ever play" tagline could be a reference to the one life thing the book and film (Alongside a CERTAIN ANIME that gets a lot of hate) use.

  • @SA-mo3hq
    @SA-mo3hq 3 роки тому +21

    "I'm the ideas guy" - The Game

  • @cycomiko73
    @cycomiko73 3 роки тому +6

    The scandal kicks in as soon as you see the guys happy face after the trailer!! He was almost giddy bc he knows he just scammed thousands of dollars from trusting people. Lol

  • @justintantiongloc6987
    @justintantiongloc6987 3 роки тому +18

    I'm so glad you're covering this - the MMO community has been following this scam for months now, and it deserves a lot more widespread attention because of how f'ing ridiculously egregious it is

  • @travissloan9411
    @travissloan9411 3 роки тому +55

    Lotta MMO scandals these past few weeks: Destiny 2 Transmog, Avengers being shit, New World pay to win microtransactions, and now this.

    • @NightmareBlade10
      @NightmareBlade10 3 роки тому +9

      MMOs have been the source of scandals for years. They do so many shitty things that they've long gotten away with simply because it's been the norm for ages now.

    • @Anonymoouss13
      @Anonymoouss13 3 роки тому +5

      I mean, yeah the destiny drama is lame, but that s mostly because Destiny 2 player cry about litterally everything

    • @travissloan9411
      @travissloan9411 3 роки тому +2

      @@Anonymoouss13 yeah, but it's actually something worth complaining about this time.

    • @skybreaker1333
      @skybreaker1333 3 роки тому

      Wish my sex life as scandalous as them :(
      .
      .
      .
      Cries in Covid-19 loneliness

    • @NightmareBlade10
      @NightmareBlade10 3 роки тому +2

      @@Anonymoouss13 Umm no. Literally all of the Destiny 2 hate has been warranted. If you've ever played the first game you would know how shitty the second one was.

  • @tekelupharsin4426
    @tekelupharsin4426 3 роки тому +251

    The Culling 2: I'm the most embarrassing game launch ever!
    The Culling Origins: Hold my beer!
    DreamWorld: Hold my pants!

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 3 роки тому +8

      Now Mighty No9 does not seam bad at all

    • @V742
      @V742 3 роки тому +11

      @@paradoxzee6834 In trying to be everything, DreamWorld will be nothing. Mighty No9 truly turned out to be bettrr than nothing after all

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k 3 роки тому +10

      "hold this totally real diamond ring!"

    • @steeljawX
      @steeljawX 3 роки тому +2

      Fallout 76 stands over a cliff with it's **** boldly flapping in the wind and the tattooed "AAA" glistening in the sun. DreamWorld steps up next to it with an even more massive **** with the word "INDIE" tattooed on it. . . . . No one is impressed either way as they both s*it themselves.

  • @sandakureva
    @sandakureva 3 роки тому +3

    64k is enough to pay me and keep me housed for two years where I currently live (outskirts of Denver).
    Not nearly enough for an MMO.

  • @RadimentriX
    @RadimentriX 3 роки тому +7

    well, you *could* make a game that unites many different genres and it'd work very well but if you're trying to put ALL genres in, you basically need to make the game somehow "match-based" you can't throw together people who wanna play the game as fps with ballistics and stuff with people who wanna play the game like an mmo with "auto-aim" and just activating abilities.
    ignoring all the work needed in the back to deliver an enjoyable performance, i could see an mmo that lets you mine and build like space engineers or no man's sky while also being an fps/3rd person shooter. add to that the option to hire NPCs for different jobs (construction, combat, piloting vehicles...) i could also see how to add an rts-component to that game. with bars and clubs you could then add several different minigames like GTA or the witcher did (bowling, dart, billard, cardgames...). with a nice story, dialogue options, levelling, upgrades to equipment (kinda like borderlands, mass effect or the division) you can then add rpg-elements on top of it and it might be an awesome game. hell, if it's kinda survival-y anyway, you can also add some simulation-elements regarding food (farm simulator) and logistics (truck simulator/flight simulator to sell and deliver produced goods that you don't need)
    what i don't see however is how you'd add point&click, turn based, sidescroller etc elements in such a game, where's just too many genres that don't fit together except if you go into some "hub" region where you start (team based) matches in which you can have rules that you don't have in the regular game-world
    but even if devs could craft such a game, it'd probably run like ass (like most, if not all of these voxel-mining-in-a-beautiful-world-with-built-bases-and-vehicles-games do), even more so if you try to let a couple dozen people mine and build on the same world, not even talking about millions...

  • @thehumus8688
    @thehumus8688 3 роки тому +56

    Imagine Tasting a food that cooked by adding everything with everything.... edible, inedible, delicius stuff , disgusting stuff, Poisonus, venomus, hippopotamus

    • @shutup1037
      @shutup1037 3 роки тому +7

      Imagine tasting a food that need 10k USD to make, but they give you what you can make at home with much worse taste

    • @fahrezadhia
      @fahrezadhia 3 роки тому

      Don't forget the funds

    • @Persona-Is-Trash
      @Persona-Is-Trash 3 роки тому

      Amogus

    • @bmist4kerc674
      @bmist4kerc674 3 роки тому

      Not only that, the individual items you added in the dish are not made by you.

  • @shinkiro403
    @shinkiro403 3 роки тому +127

    "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe it."

    • @JPogi690
      @JPogi690 3 роки тому

      If I were you guys. You need to check "Ashes of Creation" they are the most promising mmo to be released in the future. In fact they have UA-cam Channel to show their progress. Just type "Ashes of Creation YT Channel".

    • @SatanicBarbeque
      @SatanicBarbeque 3 роки тому +4

      Idk man, I feel like there's probably a limit to how big you can make the lie, and I'd say these guys crossed it awhile ago.

    • @Thesamurai1999
      @Thesamurai1999 3 роки тому

      What, no way. The bigger it's the more ridiculous it becomes, I can believe a small lie, but a big one, nah.

    • @andrewn8002
      @andrewn8002 3 роки тому +1

      @@JPogi690 If I were you, I'd stop spamming the same shit over and over. It's annoying.

    • @noskillzdad5504
      @noskillzdad5504 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the GOP knows that pretty well.

  • @do3807
    @do3807 3 роки тому +93

    Josh, Callum, Kira, and now Yong's covering it. I love this trainwreck

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 3 роки тому +9

      This has Jim Stephanie Sterling's name written all over it in Boglins.

    • @do3807
      @do3807 3 роки тому +10

      @Dale Macarena not sure I can link cause spam filters. But Josh Strife Hayes, KiraTv, Callum Upton. MMO focused channels who covered this. I don't play MMOs. But the boys make good vids, Josh especially.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +9

      @@do3807 Yeah. Josh's "Worst MMO Ever" series is my favorite UA-cam series that talks about the genre.

    • @gulferamus4999
      @gulferamus4999 3 роки тому +6

      @Dale Macarena josh strife hayes amd Kiratv are super solid creators for gaming/mmos

    • @do3807
      @do3807 3 роки тому +4

      @@Rabbitlord108 ditto on that

  • @NightLexic
    @NightLexic 3 роки тому +8

    So what i got from the trailer portion you showed is that they literally just slapped together nearly every unreal asset they could get their hands on to pitch this project. Every single image showing the game on the kickstarter page is something you can find on the unreal asset store. The note about millions of people in a persistent world.... The only game that i know of that can boast thousands of people in a single instance is in Eve Online and they broke the server. If this "developer" somehow solved the issue of having large amounts of people on a single server i would tell him to prove it. Planetside 2 is one game that can boast being able to have thousands of players on a single server but in reality its more like one big server with multiple smaller servers nested inside of which players interact. Its kinda the reason why i feel that once a region is won it goes into lockdown and people are shunted into another region, its just another way for automated maintenance to happen without players seeing it as such. Its also why while you can be part of a massive battle, once a hex gets saturated with people a limit is imposed and if you die there you get shunted into a different battle area.
    Eve online also has player limit caps in each system, mainly because one its an old game, but two its because massive battles stress the servers massively. I mentioned in the first paragraph that the latest massive battle that broke an all-time record of people in a single system(instance) and then broke the game as that many people in one system just cant be calculated with precision and weird things happened even with the Time Dilation that Eve has... In all honesty i never heard of this game until this video and im honestly not surprised.

    • @Agent6472
      @Agent6472 3 роки тому +1

      And as a side note on eve, even the "regular" massive battles that break out between factions are subject to server time dilation in order to keep things from breaking. So all these huge battles are glorified slide shows. It's impressive nonetheless due to the insanity to keep that all running

  • @brentholmes4892
    @brentholmes4892 3 роки тому +1

    Sounds like they have the Bizarro John Carmack coding for them. "Me not swipe free, crap code from online to make bad game."

  • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
    @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 роки тому +27

    The girlfriend story where he lies about the wedding ring or engagement ring being fake was absolutely insane.

    • @acedianihil8208
      @acedianihil8208 2 роки тому +1

      @@tjakal this makes me sad, because the people you love, you want to believe in, even if its absurd, but thats the price for caring about others, sometimes it takes a while to finally put together that they dont deserve it.

  • @desolator4662
    @desolator4662 3 роки тому +63

    That dev has the most punch able face I'm ever seen. Plus all the deed he has done before this

    • @joshuameeks3689
      @joshuameeks3689 3 роки тому +5

      Andrew Wilson would be proud

    • @luisf2793
      @luisf2793 3 роки тому +6

      He reminds me that guy who made that fyre festival

  • @Chris_Sizemore
    @Chris_Sizemore 3 роки тому +34

    Lets talk about Game Development terms. Pre-Alpha means "before any game systems are functional". Literally you're talking about the work done after the conceptual stage. Pre-alpha generally has nothing playable to show.
    Alpha: There is enough work done that you can demonstrate some concepts of the game, but it isn't ready for play. Testing would focus on the elements the developers direct you to test. Expect massive changes from one alpha build to the next, and a lot of place holder content.
    Beta: There is enough work done to consider this a game. All major game systems should be included by this point, though that isn't always the case. Sections of the game should be "complete" but require polishing. More systesm can be added, and sections can be removed and revamped at this point. Testers should report every "bug" they find at this point even if it isn't what the developers want to focus on. Also testers should provide general feedback.
    Gold: The game is ready to ship. No further development other than bug fixes should be done at this time. Testing still continues. Generally the development team takes a break unless they know the project is a hot mess rushed out the door despite all the bugs.

    • @3ftninja132
      @3ftninja132 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks dude 👍

    • @kinryuten
      @kinryuten 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, I learned something and can confirm I at least made an alpha at one point in my life (a demo for college).

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 3 роки тому

      Thanks for that. I know little about how games are made.

  • @astrahcat1212
    @astrahcat1212 2 роки тому +1

    7:20 "It's one thing to market a game, it's another to actually bring it to life."
    Thank you.

  • @xandlis5216
    @xandlis5216 3 роки тому +8

    that trailer oh my god it looks like a game Vinny would find in his android trash series

  • @jonconner6107
    @jonconner6107 3 роки тому +33

    Once I read "it's going to be every game genre packed into one game!" Its over. I know right there shits a scam lol..

  • @maxyuan1314
    @maxyuan1314 3 роки тому +27

    If these guys can claim to be “devs” with that little experience, then I’m a better chef than Gordon Ramsey because I watch Chopped once in a while when I’m microwaving pizza rolls🙄

  • @cbmetalgod88
    @cbmetalgod88 3 роки тому +1

    If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I don't think I've ever seen so many red flags in a single kickstarter..and yet some people still gave them money.

  • @shy221
    @shy221 3 роки тому +2

    "...these boys are not trying to scam anyone."
    i love how she refers to her ex fiance as a boy.
    like damn, he's not even a man in her eyes

    • @christophluger793
      @christophluger793 2 роки тому

      Fake ring, fake relationship, fake man, fake game, fake everything.

  • @Freedomlander_101
    @Freedomlander_101 3 роки тому +130

    You know it gets really bad when Yongyea covers this Game lol

    • @DxBlack
      @DxBlack 3 роки тому +9

      It's *been* really bad >_>
      Don't know why Yong is covering it nearly a month after the fact, other than lacking content of his own to make these days...

    • @kwayke9
      @kwayke9 3 роки тому +1

      Now onto EArth 2, or the game more expensive than the entire real Earth

    • @Milliardo5
      @Milliardo5 3 роки тому +1

      @@DxBlack I've ben following this MMO quite a bit and was wondering when Yong would get around to it. Surprised he didn't get to it sooner with all the backlash the "game" is getting.

  • @lunabolt
    @lunabolt 3 роки тому +30

    That literally looks like "yes I watched a tutorial on unreal engine" type'a game.

    • @LuaanTi
      @LuaanTi 3 роки тому

      More like "I opened a tutorial on Unreal Engine, but it looked too complicated so I just downloaded the finished demo project and claimed it as my own" :)

  • @YThates
    @YThates 3 роки тому +5

    I don't even know how people can look at this and invest. They promised to make a single world host millions of players at once. Did nobody notice the trailer showing the engine struggle to render fireworks on a free village asset? OBVIOUSLY the dream was too big for them to even implement an unfinished game optimally for a trailer.

  • @saywhat9158
    @saywhat9158 3 роки тому +1

    If you can not recognize all the glaring elephant sized warnings signs to this being a scam or an unrealistic fantasy then you should have a conservator placed in charge of your money.

  • @oompalumpus699
    @oompalumpus699 3 роки тому +2

    24:11 Notice how Kaplan squeezes his eyes. He's doing that so his smile looks more authentic.

  • @loutimarx7718
    @loutimarx7718 3 роки тому +16

    I like how one of the models they used in the trailer is literally Unreal's default character model

  • @Rabbitlord108
    @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +43

    Taquito Bandito: Hey look another guy green screening their bedroom.

    • @JosieJOK
      @JosieJOK 3 роки тому +6

      Ha! JSH still has his sign up!

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +4

      @@JosieJOK i know. It's gonna make for a good running background gag.

    • @olliej.2776
      @olliej.2776 3 роки тому +7

      Taquito Bandito is actually my ex fiancé. He proposed last week, and when I went to get the ring adjusted, the jeweller told me it couldn't be done because the ring was fake and would melt completely if he tried to resize it. I called off the engagement straight away.

    • @maxxor-overworldhero6730
      @maxxor-overworldhero6730 3 роки тому +2

      Ah, that idiot. 🤣

    • @Justacheese
      @Justacheese 3 роки тому +1

      Wow. I did not expect a reference to this on Yong's video.
      Thanks for writing that though Rabbitlord. It gave me a good laugh.

  • @blampfno
    @blampfno 3 роки тому +9

    I used to work with a dude who called situations and folks like this 'willow trees' because they were shady from the ground up. This whole situation fits.

    • @yourface2464
      @yourface2464 3 роки тому

      Thats good
      Im gonna steal that one

  • @ItsNanino
    @ItsNanino 3 роки тому +4

    It's always a really good sign to see the standard Unreal Engine Character in a game trailer.

  • @brigandboy1425
    @brigandboy1425 3 роки тому +1

    Mark Jacobs said it a long time ago. MMOs have to be addictive on some level to be profitable.
    And scams like this rely on that heavily.

  • @mikestr0592
    @mikestr0592 3 роки тому +11

    Honestly I find it hard to empathize with the backers. The project had a ton of red flags from the start. like man if it's too good to be true it probably isn't. Whoever was gullible enough to shell out money for this deserves it.

  • @kharyrobertson3579
    @kharyrobertson3579 3 роки тому +59

    lol everything about this stunk from the beginning.

  • @MuraCasardis
    @MuraCasardis 3 роки тому +13

    Anything advertising itself as being "infinite\endless" or having infinite\endless possibilities should immediately go into the red-flag bin. I honestly have absolutely no sympathy for the people who decided to back this, as they're also contributors to the problem of Kickstarter scams.

    • @joshuameeks3689
      @joshuameeks3689 3 роки тому

      Sounds like No Mans Sky's promises

    • @joshuameeks3689
      @joshuameeks3689 3 роки тому +1

      @@talorw8930 If they do the sun will explode 😂

  • @paanjaan
    @paanjaan 3 роки тому +1

    People should go to jail for things like this, we really need to stop this trend of "hope selling"

  • @mikoto7693
    @mikoto7693 3 роки тому +3

    I'm so glad more and more people are spreading news about Dreamworld.

  • @gilolaes4725
    @gilolaes4725 3 роки тому +22

    Seeing YongYea mentally facepalming at the more ludicrous stuff is exactly what I wanted from this video.

  • @ZyxieRumor
    @ZyxieRumor 3 роки тому +27

    The game is asset flipped? Oh boy...wonder if Jim Sterling caught wind of this news...

  • @Pianet
    @Pianet 3 роки тому +9

    FYI if you let players upload random files, which merely "self identify" as 3D objects via their extension, and then have these files automatically download onto other players machines you should probably have a staff large enough to have people on network security.

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 3 роки тому

      I can feel my security senses wince at the potential malware payload...

    • @andhieyusuf7008
      @andhieyusuf7008 3 роки тому

      can't wait for players to start uploading nude SFM models

  • @Legoman775
    @Legoman775 3 роки тому +1

    this should tell everyone that we have a huge problem in the gaming industry when crap like this happens, the devs should be arrested, for illegally using assets that do not belong to them, lying, manipulation, as well as using kids to further their "game"

  • @Ant-iy7jt
    @Ant-iy7jt 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for providing your sources!
    I certainly want to grab a bowl of popcorn and read more about this.