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Now get to work on year end case review with overall best case before I install my new pc in an old PBR cardboard box. Ps I love you like a fat kid with a funnle cake... with longing and urgency.
As someone who has an Intel cpu: I don't actually understand any "scheme" AMD does. It honestly seems like their stuff is named accordingly, even if some CPUs basically are marginal step ups. It's at least really clear to understand, as someone without an AMD cpu. However modern intel is confusing as hell. I just use a lot of legacy software and single core software. I'm also still rocking Intel 9th gen
Definitely the marketing department going off the rails here. I highly doubt any senior engineers or even the CEO would sign off on this ridiculous presentation.
@@berenvalaria CEO will never sign off on presentations like this, they simply do not care and do not want to see them anyways. They have different things to do
@@Minecraftrok999 For a company of the size of Intel, no. But that's a pretty strong generalization, the main job of a CEO in a startup for example is to create hype slides like this and go around getting investors. Maybe not slides like this.
thats just good publicity, but as a fact intel systems do get steadier latencies with overclocking, for a top end system for someone that cares about steady framrates intel is still the option for them. but a answer to which side you should "be" on is totally depending on the user
I'm surprised you didn't talk about their criticism of "not all cores may have the same performance" when they were literally the ones that introduced this into the x86 space, selling 2 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores as "10 cores". The sheer gall of that left me speechless.
I actually think their architecture is pretty clever but yeah who thought that was a good marketing point. Your entire product line is based on the benefits of unequal cores haha.
The efficiency cores on my 13700k are still better than the cores on my old Ryzen, it's not like they are weak or anything they are pretty bulky for how small they are. Sure its not a 16 core as in the 7950x would beat it, but it's closer in price to the 7900x which is a 12 core, which it beats by a tad which is fine for them both being 24 thread, apart from cp2077 seems to brick itself if you have hyperthreading enabled or don't set the affinity
I mean, I got my engineering degree in Computational Technology (a bit of software development, robotics, networks) with an Intel Pentium of god knows what gen and 16 GB of RAM. Top of my class but boy, did that poor thing suffered with Android Studio
Funny enough at work we use a laptop with an AMD CPU (Ryzen 5 4600H) and I've seen more and more laptops that use AMD for their components. This was my first experience with the brand and now my first PC Build next to me uses a Ryzen 9 7900X
@@ivancillo8797 Ryzen has been killing it in the Builders market, the fact that they keep the same socket for more generations of CPUs than Intel alone makes it worth it to a builder, because a cheap drop in upgrade is only going to require you buying a single component and often times a new one, if you have an older intel cpu and you want to upgrade you are likely going to have to buy at least a motherboard as well or settle for hunting down a used i7 or i9 that is often going to come at a dumb premium because it was a flagship cpu in it's time. If you built a Ryzen 7000 today youll likely have 4 generations of CPU upgrades to choose from in the future. And today even for budget builders if you picked up a Ryzen 1700x or something you could upgrade to a 5800x3d or similar for a reasonable price and a bios update. The performance is just the iceing on the cake.
Just like in court, if you can't pound the facts (prove your case) then instead pound the table (yell and scream about unfairness and other invented absurdities)
They did this in the P4 days too especially when the first AMD64s dropped into market (and verified they obliterated the P4, Xeons, etc). The opteron (for example) was so hated by Intel they saturated the market with BS claims of them overheating, etc, and you couldn't leave them without AC cooling. No one leaves servers un-cooled by AC (central, or otherwise) no matter the hardware. They didn't run much hotter than Xeons (the Opteron), and were perfectly happy at 70ish F (ambient). Every watt was better spent on the AMD64 and not only could AMD prove it, every test anyone threw at it did as well. It should have made Intel #2 (seriously it was that big of a deal). Sure Intel implemented x64, but it wasn't as good until they figured out AMD just "64bit-titized" the Athlon (well... sort of). P3s were good, and they were again: Core2 (this time we figured out how to make them go vroooooooooom x64). AMDs answer was bad ('dozers), and here we are: core 9 (23u23829837293723ure23hf 2u3hrfh23 fuh32iur823 93293ru8hf KV-KKKKKKK-N-K-PEWPEWLVL7). I think I lost my point, but I agree!
I'm still not convinced this deck isn't a mass hallucination. If anyone but Intel did that, they'd spend next 5 years apologizing and hoping they're not sued...
Honestly, all this does is advertise AMD it seems, and it even explains how the mobile SKUs are named... for their competitor! I won't be surprised if Dr. Su looks at this (the slide deck) and has a laugh.
After having all the factory tours and discussion videos with all those engineers, now we need a series where you visit big companies and talk to the marketing team.
@@trued2010People say GN is biased anyways. Pretty much any review of an Intel, AMD, or nVidia part sees them accused of being paid shills for the product reviewed as well as paid shills for that product's competition.
No, we don’t. Marketers aren’t people. Why would you think that any sincere and relevant question would yield a response more coherent than a Twin Peaks fever dream?
@@samuelrodgers2742 That's because smaller number better, unless it's not then bigger number better, unless it's dates then latest number better, unless it's a number from AMD in which case it's always worse.
@@samuelrodgers2742If you check out laptop tests the i7 1260P was actually comparable to the Ryzen 7 6800H (6nm) at the same power usage and the transistor density of that node also surpassed Samsung 8nm so they were kinda right at renaming it.
I just love the Monty Pythonesque video edit. The way that this entire presentation has no visual continuity. Popping out from behind things, suddenly in your car. Suddenly in a field and back on foot. Walking towards the camera and in a later shot you’re further away from the camera. And now for something completely different…
That's exactly what I was thinking. This was written by someone with very loose knowledge of the products. Nobody arranges CPU classes by age group? Wait, maybe I can use that one slide as a way to steer people away from buying Celerons at my shop. "Look, these are for 5yo kids, what you need is an i9 for teenagers."
Buzzword buzzword, meaningless statement, buzzword, graphic, chart chart, buzzword, picture of someone smiling using their computer, buzzword buzzword. Do not question us, buzzword graphic chart.
Almost has intern written all over it. I honestly can't even assume that Intel as a whole is this bitter, just this person or people involved. But I could be wrong.
And here I am with a 14900KF and ASUS 4090, with an ASUS mobo, get a 850watt PSU they said, it's is more than enough they say. ASUS 4090 hitting 500watt on stock boost, 14900KF hitting 250watt on stock bo-- ahem, updated BIOS on ASUS mobo enabling MCE on default removing limitations, causing the CPU to hit 350watts and throttle at 100 degrees. 500+350, good thing I got a 1000watt PSU huh. Should have gotten an AMD for stable temps cause the 14900KF even with MCE disabled on a 360mm AIO Rad spikes up to 60-70 degrees multiple times a minute while the system is idle.
... with inference for that AI model run on a threadripper pro, of course. Because performance is important for us 30+ year olds who have skills and education needs that grow our compute needs lol
Intel has always been involved in legally-gray-zone if not downright illegal marketing and anti-competitive behavior, so this doesn't surprise me, but seriously, these slides are absolutely hilarious. I am so glad AMD is going strong enough to put them in their place and make them cry like this, because the consumer needs strong competition. Ideally, though, I would like to see competition based on honest performance metrics, rather than misleading consumers.
@@casnub5484 and the truth is amd naming theme really suck as. Those amd marketing incompetents simply can’t keep consistency. They get 1700x out, then 2700x, 3700x, then suddenly skips 4000 from reason and jumps to 5000, and again skips 6000 for no reason jump to 7000. Seems like in those incompetents mindset, bigger numbers mean better. So they give no fk about naming themes skips 4000 bc they want use bigger number. Even it breaks consistency. A good company should care a lot about consistency so that customers may trust their product and they can build the reputation. However amd don’t care about consistency, those incompetents in amd simply can’t realize the importance consistency do to long term growth. that is why amd a garbage company. It’s a garbage company with incompetents only sees short terms. Being a loser forever is what amd deserve
Whenever current technology reaches its zenith and the engineers tell the executives that they will be unable to pull any large performance gains in future iterations, that is when companies start to turn towards collusion and lying to customers. In the case of electron-based lithography, we are reaching that zenith. This is why the change towards smearing one another and trying to mislead the customer. Until a new realm expansion of technology comes down the pipeline, this will be the state of things to come for the next 5-7 years. It is akin to when AMD64 and Pentium III/4 (funny that Core2 went back to the Pentium III architecture) started to stagnate. Core 2 Duo was Intel's way out of this. It stopped all over AMD until the Core i architecture started to turn out mediocre gains. Thankfully, we saw AMD launch Ryzen, real competition with Intel, and the expansion of innovation through parallel processor core computing. Not sure what will follow, but it will be interesting.
And what is funny is that this was very preventable.They dumped engineers when they thought AMD couldn't compete anymore.If they had not done that 14 and 10 nm would have been on track and Ryzen would have failed.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 in all honesty ryzen would have never failed bcz AMD is completely capable of adding more cores to lower tier processors with thei power consumption rn but their margins would be reduced but if they have already gambled the company on ryzen they wouldnt back down - intel just made it easier
"Coming from a company whose market cap is 178 billion dollars... for now anyway." As of 3 August 2024: Intel Market Cap is $96.76 billion. Wouldn't have needed to sell modmats if you'd have put in a short. Wow.
The funny thing is most companies consider their marketing department responsible for revenue and the engineering side is just an expense. Well maybe this isn’t funny at all.
I mean they'll lay off workers if things go good. Laying off workers is just standard corpo thing that happens on a nearly yearly basis these days to continue the illusion of infinite growth for shareholders.
Maybe the execs have all left early for their holidays in Aspen, France, etc - middle management has taken the wheel, and they just slammed into a ditch.
I saw CrossMark, (2:51) and that was enough. I am from Poland, and recently there was a bill, that all 4th-graders (~10 y.o.) at school are to receive government-funded laptops, and one of the requirements for specs was 1100 points in CrossMark, which is known to very heavily favour Intel. Ryzen 9 5980HX reached 1098 points (not enough to be considered), while dual-core i3-1115G4 - 1118 points.
This is what happens when you have career politicians and/or corporate trust fund babies make big decisions regarding things they know absolutely nothing about.
Intel guy 1: "Do we maybe spot check the AI generated marketing campaign at all before we launch?" Intel guy 2: "Nahhh, let her rip tater chip." Two dudes at Intel, probably.
I have to assume some marketing director completely lost their marbles (and presumably now their job) and pushed this through before anyone could stop them.
Just when they were on a good streak with Arc steadily improving, Alder and Raptor being well received and IFS being on track, Intel relapses with this crap smh...
I think the GPU division is somewhat autonomous from the CPU division. The CPU division is just having a tantrum right now and is making the entire company look bad, still behavior like this is just childish.
Geeze really!!! I was just starting to like Intel again with all the recent improvements to the Arc GPU's. Then CPU marketing demons had to start opening their slide decks.
@@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 I won't be specific but I worked at a company that made public claims that their new army land vehicle design was ready for production. I was on the engineering team. We had only produced one demonstrator vehicle and it wasn't even proven to drive under its own power yet at that point. Not only that, we knew it would've required a complete ground-up re-design before being ready for production anyway. That's how much of a disconnect there was between the marketing team and reality.
They are but hurt because they need 4 generations of i9 to Beat the r7 5800x3d but AMD aß assholes aß they are released the r7 7800x3d 😮 and at the top of the AMD middlefinger they released the treadripper 7960-7995 that IS unmatched by Intels Xeon cpu's for years from on😂 and i saw a Video how someone overclocked all 96 Cores to over 6 GHz 😂 even AMD themself updated the Benchmark with Ther treadripper Score and got besten by someone WHO got a even Higher Score with that CPU 😂 Intel meanwhile looking Back at the Times where they can RIP Off customers with a i7 4c/8t for 6 to 7 generations and Charge every time 400-600$ and If you wanted more Cotes you Had to pay over 1000$ 😂
@@juveboy01033what on earth are you talking about what are you smoking? I use both Intel and AMD to run my company and I promise you on the higher end AMD absolutely wipes the floor with Intel. It isn't even a small a small lead I run servers with AMD processors which Intel don't even have an answer for. They physically don't have a CPU or basically anything which can be classed as competing. I use Intel for my laptop and desktop computers but when it comes to servers I like most people won't even look at Intel. AMD literally wipe the floor with Intel there is no comparison so I think you need to be going back on your statement and asking the question " am I simply talking about myself am I a fanboy?" You buy what you need for your business and for your day-to-day usage you don't just come out with stupid statements like that. Here on the internet you will get destroyed for statements like that. You make yourself look so stupid. Buy what you need need but don't spread information about because you are a fanboy of Intel. And let me assure you Intel I'm not a fanboy of you and neither are AMD by what you need because no company gives a crap what you think and just want your money.
Got to say that this is the video I watched more than any other, and although it's no longer the latest, it's still the best. Great delivery, editing and nice scenery shots.
Even better is the notion that you have to give up on Intel completely and go buy AMD anyway after you reach 16 simply because they don't make anything above an i9
@@chrisrib05 Hey, be fair. It always depens of what the kid is useing for. If he/she´s asking for an 4090 playing GTA5, No. Playing Fortnite, Maybe (Nanite is powerfull and needs alot of power). Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Yes.
@@aladdin8623 Just buy them second hand. Let the rich people, who buy them anyway go puff there chests with them and when they are bored of those cards, they sell them for half the price to someone who actually has a practical use for such a card.
tinfoil hat me would love to believe this was some sabotage employee planted in secret by AMD in the Intel ranks, cold war style anti-propaganda espionage/sabotage
AMD is launching Hawk Point at CES in 1 month & Strix Point in Computex 2024. Intel’s MTL has to compete with both in 2024. Spoiler: it will get obliterated.
9:13 An odd chart indeed, I would never recommend an i3 for content creation, and how is esports more power hungry than AI? At 11:35 they suggest that coding requires a future proof machine. People are still coding in Python on XP - practically any basic machine will handle coding/compiling. At 12:20 we can see where they didn't properly align the icons and the middle of the page looks awful. All this and they completely failed to mention one of the most CPU intensive process of all: bitmining. They couldn't even stick to the blue/orange color scheme they started with - towards the end they just look like someone made them in MS office.
The part that always gets me with stuff like this is that an entire team of people almost certainly worked on this and entire different team of people approved it. This flew by god knows how many eyes and they all went "Yup, this kills". Never feel like you aren't good enough folks, we live in a world full of clowns failing upwards and so can you! Seeing stuff like this is truly inspirational.
I'm pretty sure there is a good amount of people involved in this, that clearly knew what is going to happen. But they either couldn't voice their opinion, didn't care to voice their opinion or simply got shut down by someone higher than them. I mean, if I get paid for doing some lazy ass stupid slide that I am absolutely 100% sure it's going to fail horribly anyway, I'd only put in enough effort to "please" the higher ups and enjoy the light work. Heck, if I'm feeling funny and/or desperate, I would even go out of my way to make things "more interestingly". If the train is going to crash anyway, why not enjoy the right and make sure we get a nice firework out of the crash? At the very least, I get occasionally get similar vibes from these Slides here.
I dunno man, depending on how Intel operates internally, this might have been done by a small marketing team that takes care of that specific page/blog. But who really knows
@@JVCA44 My thought as well. Though I believe the page they showed is one of Intel's "Document" sites. One with a ton of material on it, and probably with far too many people having permissions on the back end.
It’s finally happened. Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing. Edit: I made this comment within the first 120 seconds. By the end of the video it was so much worse. I genuinely can’t believe this managed to make it past even the most junior of marketing teams.
Honestly by the end I was just confused. They should hire an autistic 5 year old so he can scream "WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE" halfway through the presentation.
Let's talk about "Intel 7". The most ludicrous snake oil thing I've seen in tech in recent years. Intel renaming their 10nm manufacturing process, that made it sound as if they had the same 7nm transistor gate length as competing AMD CPUs. Intel has no room to talk about questionable marketing.
@ I have the bad feeling Covid had nothing to do with it ;p
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@@deadmanschest4322i mentioned Covid times since that intel presentación wherebthe clips were extracted were from the CES presentation from 2020! Quarantine era!
I'm still waiting on userbenchmark's 🔥🔥🔥 review on 14th gen Intel. It's been a month and a half since the release and they've still got nothing to say. :(
As a materials scientist, pyrolitic graphite (“stacked graphene”) has abysmal thermal conductivity in the Z axis. It’s actually used as thermal insulator.
@@JohnWiku one needs to add in the sound of salt creation , they cancel each other out. One needs be careful about the source of the salt though . Salt coming from Reddit posts can result in wailing and nashing of teeth background noise. Salt sourced from e-sports losers results in a high pitched whine.
This was my 1st impression... It was written by AI My 2nd though was that each slide was written by a different marketing intern and no one higher up bothered to read the whole thing.
Imagine working for a tech giant and seeing Steve Burke in flesh in front of your company sign actively gesturing and recording some agitated speech. I bet that's unforgettable feeling of either existential dread or immense pride (and the latter probably happens much less often).
@@CNGTunesthis video has over half a million views and reaches an audience who is intrested on this subject. How is that something gou can ignore as a company?
They are marketing to the people who buy laptops for schools. It's a large market, at least in my backwater district in Ohio we had at least one laptop for every kid. When I was that age, every school had those crappy Windows 7 Celeron netbooks with 5200rpm HDDs that took half the class to boot. Swing by the walmart laptop section and you'll notice AMD has recently taken over a large chunk of the laptop market that intel once hed, not to mention ARM chromebooks & the fact that Apple's new laptops don't use Intel. IMO Intel pushed their products into schools before they were ready for that kind of application, and gave the Celeron a bad rep for wasting valuable classroom time. Hence why they're now saying a 5-10 year old needs an i3 for programming, and are trying to associate that bad reputation they've created for Windows netbooks with AMD. The benchmark thing is especially funny, it's like they know an underpowered chromebook will do the job just fine and there's no need for an i3 but they just need something to point at and say theirs is better.
Thats easy to answer, different teams make different things. I have no doubt intel has good professional teams making the actual chips. But im interested what was actually the team that made that "but but snake oil and latest is latest and greatest but not greatest and not latest" abomination. Who are those people and why were they paid to make that abomination ? And by whom ? Now that would be interesting to know.
To me this comes across as a showcase of letting your intrusive thoughts win. It’s one of the most chaotic digital presentations I have seen from a very big company. Steve even says at the end of the video ”I don’t even know what this is about anymore”
The entertainment value of your videos has increased exponentially without being less informative. Truly appreciate Steve, the staff, and the entire channel as a whole.
Hey Intel, student here. The most hardware-demanding job I had to do on my (otherwise several thousands of dollars worth) computer was a literal excel spreadsheet with calculations. No, I do not need an i9 for that, nor do I need it for any other Uni activity.
The intended audience is pretty clearly people with influence on the purchasing decisions for school districts. Which makes it incredibly predatory. You know, it might be worth teaming up with the Teacher's Associations or similar to do a series on shady marketing practices and inducements in education tech, because there are a LOT!
I was under the assumption that schools mostly use Macbooks or chromebooks. Schools didn’t use PC’s when they were the better option, why would they start now?
@@WARnTEA Probably because the IT department got itself some strong voices. Either that, or I wasted my entire high school co-op course imaging Toshiba laptops for nothing.
Yes that clearly marketed to stupid people that know nothing about computers that buy in bulk for school A 15 year old kid absolutely needs i9 for school lol that ridiculous
I had similar thoughts on the intended target for the slides. This also reeks of ai tomfoolery, but it's just barely good enough, cohesive enough,and presented in a way to think MAYBE a human wrote it. What really bothers me though is that I don't think AMD has a good way to fight this since it's not all lies but preys on the ignorance on the viewer to not know that ,while attacking AMD, Intel are simultaneously utterly destroying their own products.
The filmography of this video is just a ton of fun, I love all of these comedic shots of Steve walking and talking, especially after the editor was nice enough to forewarn me of his descent into deranged mania.
If by fun you mean awful then yeah I agree. I get that's kind of the point but shooting something lazily and terribly as a "joke" doesn't really land for me. It's more like you unironically produced crap. With that being said the script was great.
@@SpartanArmy117 It was funny you are just mad for no reason, no shit this whole video was done "fast" it was meant to be a mostly laughing at intel video not anytihng serious
@@theguy8412 Mad? Why does everyone on the internet assume anger when it's just an observation. I understand it was done "fast" but doesn't he literally roast companies and other people for not taking time and producing good products\content. I'm not saying it needs to be a masterpiece but in my opinion it's not "quirky" to frame a shot like crap "on purpose," it's just lazy. He just wanted to get back to enjoying the city, which is fine but he could've just done this later.
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473lol, you're the one who got triggered by the idea of "men dressed as women" so much you brought it up in an intel video. You're projecting, bub. Typical. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, wtf does "validating my delusion is your responsibility" even mean? You seem to have constructed an image in your head and are imparting onto me things I never said. I just said you're coping. Cause you are. You got triggered by cross dressers in a video that doesn't have any cross dressers. That's called an obsession, by definition. Have a nice day.
@NoSpamForYou If the Engineers at Intel were allowed to be as creative as they could be the world would have its first nuclear powered desktop, I joke but engineers are some of the craziest people I've ever seen and must be reigned in 90 ish percent of the time lest they wipe us all out with their inventions.
I really love the videos where Steve flims outside of the GN studio which brings more versatility in the journalism, including taking feedback from pigeons.
@@GamersNexusthat pigeon got out of there quick, so I don’t know if I would call that a “constructive interview”. Still although you didn’t get a constructive interview, I still thank you for asking the questions to the individuals we all wanted.
Consider how badly Intel fucked over Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh customers well after they printed this abysmal travesty. Intel have refused any recalls for their set to degrade products out of the box, apart from a substandard Intel Default Settings BIOS placebo that massively reduces processor performance with far less efficiency than AMD Ryzen. It appears the Core Truths was that Intel was always the Snake Oil salesmen here. A class-action lawsuit could be devasting for many, not just Intel. I don't want Intel to fail at all, less competition means more stagnant and mediocre products from every company, even NVIDIA and AMD. The fact that Intel paid competitors to either not buy AMD or make AMD underperform or be unable to run the same programs as Intel processors in the past, doubles down on the Snake Oil Salesman behavior from Intel, so ready to accuse AMD, a FAR better computer processor manufacturer currently with the Ryzen platform, while all Intel is doing is projecting their insecurities onto AMD. Intel has become the master of shooting themselves in the foot, I just didn't expect them to triple down on the feet sawed off double-barrel so rapidly.
I wanted to upgrade to one so bad but they're so damn expensive I had to settle for a 5700X 😔the good part is if I find one for cheap in the future I can give this pc one last revitalization lol.
Imagine being in Chinatown and seeing Steve walk by mumbling to himself about "the latest"? Damn, the industry finally broke the man. Excellent video guys, I laughed and cried. How did Intel ever greenlight this presentation??
Because intel sees their revenue shrinking since their overpriced old stuff is mostly not bought anymore bcs they don’t really innovate that much anymore like they once did
Fucking baffles me how anything even remotely close to this quality of official document leaves a cubicle/office of a corporation, not to mention gets posted on the internet. Truly amazing times we're living in.
@@MikehMike01What, exactly, do you think you gain from this? Think Pat Gelsinger is going to show up at your house to tug one out for you and give you a complementary 14900K?
You know, capitalism might be dying when multi-billion dollar corporations are marketing their products with less dignity and professionalism than a 5 year old explaining why Batman is the best superhero. Why are all the executives insane and/or stupid?
i moved from a 13900k to a 7950X3D. Efficient, great on games, and great on productivity. 253 watts vs 130 watts on the same workload. intel is sweating.
Holy crap that table with the age groups and "multi-tasking ability" is hilarious. Feels like something out of a fever dream when you take any consideration as to what it means
I actually bursted out laughing seeing Esports as the most intense cpu task there is. Also digital content creation should definitely be above programming & coding.
Wasn't there an Intel slide few years ago talking about having a 20% larger army or something? Maybe they're talking about Starcraft micro/macro multitasking...
@@jogeem5480depends on how you look at it. Programming explicitly is the creation of digital content. Compiling chromium will take 30 minutes up to multiple hours depending on the CPU you are using.
I've built 4-5 pcs and this time for the first time I went with a amd cpu. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. All I do is game and the 7800x3d is a beast. Only £300 and very power efficient. Using about 80w.
I'm glad you made this video. I couldn't believe the slides were real when I saw them a few days ago. "There's no way the company that released Skylake more times than Bethesda released Skyrim and whose current generation is identical to it's last generation would open themselves up to this kind of criticism" I thought
I'm not sure if I can get in contact with you all via email so I figured I'd drop a comment here since it's fairly relevant. I'm noticing lately a lot of tech outlets are recommending ancient (i.e GTX 1660/RTX 2060) GPUs as "deals" when they're being sold on Amazon for literally twice as much as you could get a GPU for on the used market, or just get a modern GPU for the same damn price. I just recorded a completely unhinged rant about the topic because it GENUINELY pisses me off. What caused me to spiral out of control on the topic is an article from PC Guide with the headline "EVGA midrange 20 series gaming GPU’s price plunges in Amazon deal." Like, why the hell is the author recommending four year old GPUs that get destroyed by even low end GPUs of this generation? Why are they $300? Why did they do zero research and just copy and paste the marketing? And most egregious: WHY ARE THEY COMPARING TO A SEVEN YEAR OLD GPU? I'm seeing this ABSOLUTELY everywhere. If it's LAST GEN stuff I get it, but more and more I'm seeing tech outlets recommending ancient stuff as "deals" when if you did just a LITTLE research you'd find that's not the case
Intel throwing huge cash at fabs makes it obvious what they're doing. They're planning to dip out of taking the raw design space seriously since it's obvious they're slipping hard, and just go to focusing all their efforts to doing contract fab work for the huge AI giants like Nvidia and... well, probably AMD too. Ride the coattails of the current geopolitical climate, which is decidedly not business friendly. Which is perfectly valid, but potentially leaves some market holes in the x86 space that ARM/RISC/etc may start gobbling up once AMD goes back to being complacent.
"As students progress, their activities place increasing demands on their computers" and in the previous slide they said kids should have i3 and i5... if that statement is true you should be slapping an i9 into every kids device so that they won't have to upgrade their chips every few years, and "the latest isn't the best" so I guess an i9 today will still be great in 10 years. It's the most anti-marketing I've ever seen.
10:20 Gee, I was about to buy a 12600k for my 10-year old to play minecraft on but now that Intel has graced me with knowledge I now know that they deserve nothing higher than an i3. Thanks intel!
Get your 10 yr old a 5800X3D and be happy with the fact that Intel is still struggling to overcome that CPU, even now and seemingly very salty about it.
@@AliceC993 intel is literally selling CPU feature subscriptions, where you would have to pay monthly for access to certain features. Currently that only targets servers, but I'm sure they are gonna try the same thing for the consumer market at some point.
As someone who just bought a 14700k, and whose son just bought a 14900k, while my other son runs a Ryzen, I can assure you that things are not always "the latest", nor are they always what they seem. The Ryzen is built on a 7nm process, and runs relatively cool peaking about 60C even with overclocking and no special cooling. The 14900k and 14700k are fast, yes, but since they are built on a 10nm process, in order to get that speed, they eat power, and crank out heat. They are designed to run at 256 watts, and peak at more. That takes at least a 950 watt power supply, and a massive amount of cooling. We had better than average cooling, but it still was peaking at over 90C at times, way too hot for a long life. We are moving up to a Dark Cool Assassin IV, Thermal Grizzly liquid metal, some 6000 RPM bitcoin mining fans, and some quieter 2-3000 RPM fans. In addition, we throttled the CPU down to peak at 170 watts. I expect that we can get the temperatures to peak at maybe 70 C, which is still pretty hot. Now, let's talk about who is selling snake oil. My understanding is that Intel has been unable to get their 7nm process running on schedule, so they are renaming their 10nm process to be called "Intel 7", and that when the 7nm process gets running, it will be called "Intel 4". If this is incorrect, someone, please correct me, but if it is correct, then that is disingenuous, sorry Intel. Are the 14700k and 14900k the "latest and greatest" or are they somewhat dated, using an older 10nm process to make them? In my opinion, the latter, and had I realized how much heat they put out, I would definitely have gone with a 7nm Ryzen.
I’d be embarrassed to tell the public that the competition, thats blowing us out the water in terms of performance, was created 3 years ago while our project, that doesn’t give as much, came out this year 🙃
You should check out that time that Intel forgot the name of its own products: ua-cam.com/video/aFHBgb9SY1Y/v-deo.html
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I bought an AMD video card… it was such a miserable experience that I’m never buying anything from AMD again
Now get to work on year end case review with overall best case before I install my new pc in an old PBR cardboard box.
Ps I love you like a fat kid with a funnle cake... with longing and urgency.
throwing stones from a 14th gen house
@@MikehMike01I bought an AMD video card... not sure what your issue is.
@@MikehMike01 Good thing for Intel then you never tried to buy a graphics card from them yet! :)
Probably hired a previous user benchmark employee as their head of marketing for this campaign
🤣
You mean that site wasn't funded by them and Nvidia to begin with?
average ubm actions
Nicely played good sir
My thought exactly.
You know whats funny? They explain AMD's naming scheme but they dont explain their own naming scheme.
Extremely on point
Nailed it.
As someone who has an Intel cpu:
I don't actually understand any "scheme" AMD does.
It honestly seems like their stuff is named accordingly, even if some CPUs basically are marginal step ups. It's at least really clear to understand, as someone without an AMD cpu.
However modern intel is confusing as hell. I just use a lot of legacy software and single core software. I'm also still rocking Intel 9th gen
And Intel's naming is about to get even more confusing. smh.
Their new naming scheme is worse than the old one.
Imagine having such a good marketing department, that your marketing department is doing marketing for your competitor too.
lol 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like the marketing department needs a raise!
@@nowenbeadle7643 yeah, for working *twice*
Its like their marketing was done by my angry edge lord nephew.
AMD during Bulldozer era now Intel is doing the same and it's incredibly sad.
Their marketing boss literally came from AMD. I'm not joking.
Seeing a multi billion dollar company be this insecure about their own products gives me the confidence to speak to my major crush
You got this bro.
Go for it!
Just major crush? What about junior crush?
* fbi agents watching this conversation * 🤔🤨
Just tell us how it went.
"The worst that shr can say is no"
Edit: good luck either way
Intel: latest doesn't always mean better performance.
Ryzen 7 5800x3d: *Agree*
The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
Ryzen 9 59X0x3d please....
@@erikkarjala5990X3D but on AM4 pls
7800X3D laughing behind 5800X3D-chan: *Cute*
Ryzen 9 7900x3d : Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.
I'm happy for the userbenchmark guy. Looks like he finally landed his dream job :)
Truly a gold level comment
Exactly thinking of this lmao 😆
And people say that shilling for companies never pays off...
Funny enough the userbenchmark guy didn't write a review for the 14900k, meaning that not even him has the guts to keep justifying intel products
yeh, first thing that came to my mind, that sht really sounded like the guy on that site lmao
Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.
Definitely the marketing department going off the rails here. I highly doubt any senior engineers or even the CEO would sign off on this ridiculous presentation.
and it's not like the engineers have that much goodwill after 14th gen anyway lol.
@@berenvalaria CEO will never sign off on presentations like this, they simply do not care and do not want to see them anyways.
They have different things to do
@@Minecraftrok999 For a company of the size of Intel, no. But that's a pretty strong generalization, the main job of a CEO in a startup for example is to create hype slides like this and go around getting investors.
Maybe not slides like this.
I will never buy intel again.
Not since 2017
When AMD gives you one of those marketing engagement surveys asking where you heard about their product, Intel should be on the list of options
thats just good publicity, but as a fact intel systems do get steadier latencies with overclocking, for a top end system for someone that cares about steady framrates intel is still the option for them. but a answer to which side you should "be" on is totally depending on the user
@@ReptilezDzn Not your fault, but comments like this have aged like the finest of milk steaks.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about their criticism of "not all cores may have the same performance" when they were literally the ones that introduced this into the x86 space, selling 2 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores as "10 cores". The sheer gall of that left me speechless.
I actually think their architecture is pretty clever but yeah who thought that was a good marketing point. Your entire product line is based on the benefits of unequal cores haha.
ive seen older amd parts marketted as core count = cpu cores + gpu cores for cpus with on board graphics
I have one such cpu on my laptop and it's surprisingly performant.
Or that they were the ones that called AMD out for using "gluing together" CPUs which they immediately copied in their next generation cpus
The efficiency cores on my 13700k are still better than the cores on my old Ryzen, it's not like they are weak or anything they are pretty bulky for how small they are. Sure its not a 16 core as in the 7950x would beat it, but it's closer in price to the 7900x which is a 12 core, which it beats by a tad which is fine for them both being 24 thread, apart from cp2077 seems to brick itself if you have hyperthreading enabled or don't set the affinity
Congrats to Userbenchmark for finally making his dream come true and land his dream job as Intel's official head of the marketing department.
😂
lmao thats exactly what it sounds like
lol
How dare you..?! 🤣
As both a software engineer and a gamer, I love that they think an i3 is adequate for coding tasks, while an i9 is needed for esports. So insane.
here at intel we tell the truth i3 for coding i9 for esports !!
lol, compiling any non-trivial C[++] project on an i3 doesn't sound fun, not to mention an i3 won't exactly come with 32 GB of RAM :D
I mean, I got my engineering degree in Computational Technology (a bit of software development, robotics, networks) with an Intel Pentium of god knows what gen and 16 GB of RAM. Top of my class but boy, did that poor thing suffered with Android Studio
Funny enough at work we use a laptop with an AMD CPU (Ryzen 5 4600H) and I've seen more and more laptops that use AMD for their components. This was my first experience with the brand and now my first PC Build next to me uses a Ryzen 9 7900X
@@ivancillo8797 Ryzen has been killing it in the Builders market, the fact that they keep the same socket for more generations of CPUs than Intel alone makes it worth it to a builder, because a cheap drop in upgrade is only going to require you buying a single component and often times a new one, if you have an older intel cpu and you want to upgrade you are likely going to have to buy at least a motherboard as well or settle for hunting down a used i7 or i9 that is often going to come at a dumb premium because it was a flagship cpu in it's time. If you built a Ryzen 7000 today youll likely have 4 generations of CPU upgrades to choose from in the future. And today even for budget builders if you picked up a Ryzen 1700x or something you could upgrade to a 5800x3d or similar for a reasonable price and a bios update. The performance is just the iceing on the cake.
It's so laughable when a company resorts to something like this rather than just releasing better products/lowering their prices 😹
it's almost like they are shitty.
Just like in court, if you can't pound the facts (prove your case) then instead pound the table (yell and scream about unfairness and other invented absurdities)
They did this in the P4 days too especially when the first AMD64s dropped into market (and verified they obliterated the P4, Xeons, etc). The opteron (for example) was so hated by Intel they saturated the market with BS claims of them overheating, etc, and you couldn't leave them without AC cooling. No one leaves servers un-cooled by AC (central, or otherwise) no matter the hardware. They didn't run much hotter than Xeons (the Opteron), and were perfectly happy at 70ish F (ambient). Every watt was better spent on the AMD64 and not only could AMD prove it, every test anyone threw at it did as well. It should have made Intel #2 (seriously it was that big of a deal). Sure Intel implemented x64, but it wasn't as good until they figured out AMD just "64bit-titized" the Athlon (well... sort of). P3s were good, and they were again: Core2 (this time we figured out how to make them go vroooooooooom x64).
AMDs answer was bad ('dozers), and here we are: core 9 (23u23829837293723ure23hf 2u3hrfh23 fuh32iur823 93293ru8hf KV-KKKKKKK-N-K-PEWPEWLVL7). I think I lost my point, but I agree!
a low priced good product is already a better product, they're not really 2 different things
I'm still not convinced this deck isn't a mass hallucination. If anyone but Intel did that, they'd spend next 5 years apologizing and hoping they're not sued...
Legit it doesn’t feel real, and I feel stupid for having purchased their products in the past now lmao
Honestly, all this does is advertise AMD it seems, and it even explains how the mobile SKUs are named... for their competitor! I won't be surprised if Dr. Su looks at this (the slide deck) and has a laugh.
@@CalculatedRiskAK amd just reissues the same slide deck and rolls the dice
@@scimbrelo With the background painted red
@@scimbrelo????
After having all the factory tours and discussion videos with all those engineers, now we need a series where you visit big companies and talk to the marketing team.
Nah. Then people would say GN is biased. Even if GN didn't get paid in any way. Gn is independent and we want them independent.
@@trued2010People say GN is biased anyways. Pretty much any review of an Intel, AMD, or nVidia part sees them accused of being paid shills for the product reviewed as well as paid shills for that product's competition.
He tried it once with Newegg, was an interesting video.^^
No, we don’t. Marketers aren’t people. Why would you think that any sincere and relevant question would yield a response more coherent than a Twin Peaks fever dream?
Intel: but... but..... We make cpus for eVeRYonE, PlAYErs DoeSNT MattER
players: WE ARE EVERYONE
This is pretty rich coming from the company that brought us 14nm++++++++ year after year.
And Intel also rebranded their 10nm Enhanced SuperFin node as ‘Intel 7’ and their 7nm node as ‘Intel 4’ in order to seem more competitive with TSMC.
@@samuelrodgers2742 That's because smaller number better, unless it's not then bigger number better, unless it's dates then latest number better, unless it's a number from AMD in which case it's always worse.
Ah the intel Quad-Core dark ages
14nm# (programming joke)
@@samuelrodgers2742If you check out laptop tests the i7 1260P was actually comparable to the Ryzen 7 6800H (6nm) at the same power usage and the transistor density of that node also surpassed Samsung 8nm so they were kinda right at renaming it.
I just love the Monty Pythonesque video edit. The way that this entire presentation has no visual continuity.
Popping out from behind things, suddenly in your car. Suddenly in a field and back on foot. Walking towards the camera and in a later shot you’re further away from the camera.
And now for something completely different…
Still better than an Intel presentation that contradicts itself multiple times.
Makes more sense than Intel's marketing...
This entire presentation has "graphic design is my passion" energy.
That's exactly what I was thinking. This was written by someone with very loose knowledge of the products. Nobody arranges CPU classes by age group?
Wait, maybe I can use that one slide as a way to steer people away from buying Celerons at my shop. "Look, these are for 5yo kids, what you need is an i9 for teenagers."
I know right?! Im learning a lot from this and taking notes.
Buzzword buzzword, meaningless statement, buzzword, graphic, chart chart, buzzword, picture of someone smiling using their computer, buzzword buzzword. Do not question us, buzzword graphic chart.
Almost has intern written all over it. I honestly can't even assume that Intel as a whole is this bitter, just this person or people involved.
But I could be wrong.
the new inclusion and diversity hires im shure@@DeltaSierra426
When Steve is on-location, you know it's gonna be good.
Or bad ... From intels point of view.😂
Thanks, Steve!
Did someone say ARTESIAN BUILDS? Lol
Steve was on ALL the locations.
Now he needs to go back to Microcenter and film himself buying a computer for a fan again.
For a document like this to go out, it has to go through multiple stages of approval… that’s nuts to think about
Not only that, someone from leadership most probably insisted on putting in/keeping some of the dumbest points in that deck.
Now I want to see what didn't make the cut. It's such a missed opportunity.
all it really takes is one unhinged manager doing some skunkworks with a graphics person
shows how desperate they are in intel
And here I am with a 14900KF and ASUS 4090, with an ASUS mobo, get a 850watt PSU they said, it's is more than enough they say.
ASUS 4090 hitting 500watt on stock boost, 14900KF hitting 250watt on stock bo-- ahem, updated BIOS on ASUS mobo enabling MCE on default removing limitations, causing the CPU to hit 350watts and throttle at 100 degrees.
500+350, good thing I got a 1000watt PSU huh.
Should have gotten an AMD for stable temps cause the 14900KF even with MCE disabled on a 360mm AIO Rad spikes up to 60-70 degrees multiple times a minute while the system is idle.
this is the best 5800X3D ad I've seen yet
This deck was made at 2 in the morning by a new marketing hire that woke up sweaty and hyperventilating from an "AMD ate my homework" nightmare
This sounds like someone trained AI on UserBenchmark "reviews" and prompted it to make a marketing campaign.
LOL 💯
This
... with inference for that AI model run on a threadripper pro, of course. Because performance is important for us 30+ year olds who have skills and education needs that grow our compute needs lol
Intel has always been involved in legally-gray-zone if not downright illegal marketing and anti-competitive behavior, so this doesn't surprise me, but seriously, these slides are absolutely hilarious. I am so glad AMD is going strong enough to put them in their place and make them cry like this, because the consumer needs strong competition.
Ideally, though, I would like to see competition based on honest performance metrics, rather than misleading consumers.
Amd marketing team is worse.
@@zihechen3111for real lol.
What? Most of the time Intel didn't do any marketing at all.^^
@@casnub5484 and the truth is amd naming theme really suck as. Those amd marketing incompetents simply can’t keep consistency. They get 1700x out, then 2700x, 3700x, then suddenly skips 4000 from reason and jumps to 5000, and again skips 6000 for no reason jump to 7000. Seems like in those incompetents mindset, bigger numbers mean better. So they give no fk about naming themes skips 4000 bc they want use bigger number. Even it breaks consistency. A good company should care a lot about consistency so that customers may trust their product and they can build the reputation. However amd don’t care about consistency, those incompetents in amd simply can’t realize the importance consistency do to long term growth. that is why amd a garbage company. It’s a garbage company with incompetents only sees short terms. Being a loser forever is what amd deserve
Whenever current technology reaches its zenith and the engineers tell the executives that they will be unable to pull any large performance gains in future iterations, that is when companies start to turn towards collusion and lying to customers. In the case of electron-based lithography, we are reaching that zenith. This is why the change towards smearing one another and trying to mislead the customer. Until a new realm expansion of technology comes down the pipeline, this will be the state of things to come for the next 5-7 years. It is akin to when AMD64 and Pentium III/4 (funny that Core2 went back to the Pentium III architecture) started to stagnate. Core 2 Duo was Intel's way out of this. It stopped all over AMD until the Core i architecture started to turn out mediocre gains. Thankfully, we saw AMD launch Ryzen, real competition with Intel, and the expansion of innovation through parallel processor core computing. Not sure what will follow, but it will be interesting.
0:32 “This level of petty is coming form a company whose market cap is $178 billion dollars, for now anyway” this has aged like fine wine
The fact they posted this after 14th gen release has to be satire.
As they talk about the 11th gen, over and over.
you see this often, people project their own faults onto others to rationalize their problems. and reassure themselves they are doing well.
I mean, they have done shit like this already, not their first time, they are the main character when talking about bullshitting.
Sadly and pathetically it's not.
Something must be wrong with new gen sales. Oh wait, sales of new gen names.
This is what companies like to do when they're pissy because they lost their monopoly status and are forced to compete again.
And what is funny is that this was very preventable.They dumped engineers when they thought AMD couldn't compete anymore.If they had not done that 14 and 10 nm would have been on track and Ryzen would have failed.
They deserve every bit of this.
Nice profile picture🤝
@@naamadossantossilva4736 in all honesty ryzen would have never failed bcz AMD is completely capable of adding more cores to lower tier processors with thei power consumption rn but their margins would be reduced but if they have already gambled the company on ryzen they wouldnt back down - intel just made it easier
@@eliasroflchopper3006 Yeah its what they get for trying to sell us the same quad-core processors for a fucking decade.
Userbenchmark: "Send me in coach, I'm ready!"
Intel: "..."
"Coming from a company whose market cap is 178 billion dollars... for now anyway."
As of 3 August 2024: Intel Market Cap is $96.76 billion. Wouldn't have needed to sell modmats if you'd have put in a short. Wow.
So when the Intel CEO said AMD was in their review mirror at the 12th gen launch, what he really meant was "We cannot stop thinking about AMD".
No, I think he was just driving the car in reverse.
@@frommatorav1 Ah yes, now it makes sense. Thank you good citizen.
As soon as I read the word 'mirror' I imagined that Buffalo Bill mirror scene in Silence of the Lambs, except an Intel exec doing it.
"Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear"
@@frommatorav1no, intel spun of the road and ended up backwards in a ditch. And could see AMD slowly disappearing in the rear view mirror
If intel is gonna lay off workers when things go bad they should start with their whole marketing department
They can't just axe their most innovative department like that
The funny thing is most companies consider their marketing department responsible for revenue and the engineering side is just an expense.
Well maybe this isn’t funny at all.
I mean they'll lay off workers if things go good. Laying off workers is just standard corpo thing that happens on a nearly yearly basis these days to continue the illusion of infinite growth for shareholders.
It's great to see intel's new AI doing something.
Right? Seems Intel's presentation was pretty much AI generated 😂
bro that's an insult to AI
@@Real_MisterSirAgreed. Nvidia’s AI will at least talk you in a creepy way!
I agree the arguments they confect in this convoluted mess are highly Artifical... not so sure about Intelligent
Actually a very good point and probably the whole explanation. This has to be AI generated.
What's worse is that some people are falling for this marketing currently and are 100% oblivious to it
How that presentation got approved is beyond my comprehension.
Maybe the execs have all left early for their holidays in Aspen, France, etc - middle management has taken the wheel, and they just slammed into a ditch.
Perhaps whoever runs UserBenchmark is in charge of making that slide.
The people that made that presentation and approved it are probably going to lose their jobs lol, this is too bizarre even for Intel standards.
i can imagine that pat personally approved it...
lol their "CPUpro" writers, yes!@@tsjeriAu
I saw CrossMark, (2:51) and that was enough.
I am from Poland, and recently there was a bill, that all 4th-graders (~10 y.o.) at school are to receive government-funded laptops, and one of the requirements for specs was 1100 points in CrossMark, which is known to very heavily favour Intel.
Ryzen 9 5980HX reached 1098 points (not enough to be considered), while dual-core i3-1115G4 - 1118 points.
Bruh what. Intel bribing your government or what
so basically like userbench but in benchmarking software
What in the fuck did Intel pay the government ☠️☠️☠️☠️
This is what happens when you have career politicians and/or corporate trust fund babies make big decisions regarding things they know absolutely nothing about.
Someone should tell them how computers work, then.
Intel guy 1: "Do we maybe spot check the AI generated marketing campaign at all before we launch?"
Intel guy 2: "Nahhh, let her rip tater chip."
Two dudes at Intel, probably.
You forgot the line they snorted beforehand
"Let her rip tater chip." is my new slogan now. Thanks.
@@Yellowredstone Where can I get a clip of Duke Nukem saying this?
someone respond to me on this so that way i remember to use let her rip tater chip lmao
@@GigaChadAlucardlet her rip tater chip
I have to assume some marketing director completely lost their marbles (and presumably now their job) and pushed this through before anyone could stop them.
Just when they were on a good streak with Arc steadily improving, Alder and Raptor being well received and IFS being on track, Intel relapses with this crap smh...
I think the GPU division is somewhat autonomous from the CPU division. The CPU division is just having a tantrum right now and is making the entire company look bad, still behavior like this is just childish.
@@V_0717it's the whole company
Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.
Geeze really!!! I was just starting to like Intel again with all the recent improvements to the Arc GPU's. Then CPU marketing demons had to start opening their slide decks.
@@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 I won't be specific but I worked at a company that made public claims that their new army land vehicle design was ready for production. I was on the engineering team. We had only produced one demonstrator vehicle and it wasn't even proven to drive under its own power yet at that point. Not only that, we knew it would've required a complete ground-up re-design before being ready for production anyway. That's how much of a disconnect there was between the marketing team and reality.
Can't wait for Intel to start paying companies to use their products instead of AMD again. It's been almost 20 years from the last lawsuit.
Based on the market share AMD has been taking in just about every business sector, I doubt they have the money to pull that crap at this point. 😅
@@benjaminoechsli1941I dunno man, this is right up Dell's dodgey alley
They already been doing this. 16 inch laptops almost exclusively have intel cpus
What makes you think they ever stopped?
what happened?
So AMD's old stuff beats Intel's new stuff. Wow, Intel's marketing is next level.
Because the lastest does not matter!
😂😂😂
@@juveboy01033you're the fanboy do you not realize it at this point?
They are but hurt because they need 4 generations of i9 to Beat the r7 5800x3d but AMD aß assholes aß they are released the r7 7800x3d 😮 and at the top of the AMD middlefinger they released the treadripper 7960-7995 that IS unmatched by Intels Xeon cpu's for years from on😂 and i saw a Video how someone overclocked all 96 Cores to over 6 GHz 😂 even AMD themself updated the Benchmark with Ther treadripper Score and got besten by someone WHO got a even Higher Score with that CPU 😂 Intel meanwhile looking Back at the Times where they can RIP Off customers with a i7 4c/8t for 6 to 7 generations and Charge every time 400-600$ and If you wanted more Cotes you Had to pay over 1000$ 😂
@@juveboy01033they are beating them straight for 6 years consecutive
@@juveboy01033what on earth are you talking about what are you smoking? I use both Intel and AMD to run my company and I promise you on the higher end AMD absolutely wipes the floor with Intel. It isn't even a small a small lead I run servers with AMD processors which Intel don't even have an answer for. They physically don't have a CPU or basically anything which can be classed as competing. I use Intel for my laptop and desktop computers but when it comes to servers I like most people won't even look at Intel. AMD literally wipe the floor with Intel there is no comparison so I think you need to be going back on your statement and asking the question " am I simply talking about myself am I a fanboy?" You buy what you need for your business and for your day-to-day usage you don't just come out with stupid statements like that. Here on the internet you will get destroyed for statements like that. You make yourself look so stupid. Buy what you need need but don't spread information about because you are a fanboy of Intel. And let me assure you Intel I'm not a fanboy of you and neither are AMD by what you need because no company gives a crap what you think and just want your money.
Got to say that this is the video I watched more than any other, and although it's no longer the latest, it's still the best. Great delivery, editing and nice scenery shots.
“You’re not old enough for an i9” made me laugh way too hard
Even better is the notion that you have to give up on Intel completely and go buy AMD anyway after you reach 16 simply because they don't make anything above an i9
Great thing to use against your kid asking for an overpowered/overpriced PC 😈
@@chrisrib05 Hey, be fair. It always depens of what the kid is useing for. If he/she´s asking for an 4090 playing GTA5, No. Playing Fortnite, Maybe (Nanite is powerfull and needs alot of power). Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Yes.
@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowwwSorry but no game ever justifies paying such totally exaggerated prices for gpus.
@@aladdin8623 Just buy them second hand. Let the rich people, who buy them anyway go puff there chests with them and when they are bored of those cards, they sell them for half the price to someone who actually has a practical use for such a card.
Its genuine incredible this slide show was created approved and shared, there are people getting paid for this, insane
Yeah I've seen some dumb shit working for large companies but this is next level
tinfoil hat me would love to believe this was some sabotage employee planted in secret by AMD in the Intel ranks, cold war style anti-propaganda espionage/sabotage
AMD is launching Hawk Point at CES in 1 month & Strix Point in Computex 2024. Intel’s MTL has to compete with both in 2024. Spoiler: it will get obliterated.
I want also that kind of job!
Where i can enlist?
😂😂😂
9:13 An odd chart indeed, I would never recommend an i3 for content creation, and how is esports more power hungry than AI?
At 11:35 they suggest that coding requires a future proof machine. People are still coding in Python on XP - practically any basic machine will handle coding/compiling.
At 12:20 we can see where they didn't properly align the icons and the middle of the page looks awful.
All this and they completely failed to mention one of the most CPU intensive process of all: bitmining.
They couldn't even stick to the blue/orange color scheme they started with - towards the end they just look like someone made them in MS office.
The part that always gets me with stuff like this is that an entire team of people almost certainly worked on this and entire different team of people approved it. This flew by god knows how many eyes and they all went "Yup, this kills". Never feel like you aren't good enough folks, we live in a world full of clowns failing upwards and so can you! Seeing stuff like this is truly inspirational.
I'm pretty sure there is a good amount of people involved in this, that clearly knew what is going to happen. But they either couldn't voice their opinion, didn't care to voice their opinion or simply got shut down by someone higher than them.
I mean, if I get paid for doing some lazy ass stupid slide that I am absolutely 100% sure it's going to fail horribly anyway, I'd only put in enough effort to "please" the higher ups and enjoy the light work. Heck, if I'm feeling funny and/or desperate, I would even go out of my way to make things "more interestingly".
If the train is going to crash anyway, why not enjoy the right and make sure we get a nice firework out of the crash? At the very least, I get occasionally get similar vibes from these Slides here.
I have never felt more qualified to be a CEO in my life
@@Yoshihara72these slides perfectly capture the company culture
I dunno man, depending on how Intel operates internally, this might have been done by a small marketing team that takes care of that specific page/blog. But who really knows
@@JVCA44 My thought as well. Though I believe the page they showed is one of Intel's "Document" sites. One with a ton of material on it, and probably with far too many people having permissions on the back end.
0:33 well THAT was prophetic
You know you messed up when you release a marketing piece then suddenly see Steve recording a video in front of your building.
It's the equivalent of a demon seeing doomguy is awake...
Cue music
🤣
Lol
if Steve is filming outside your office, rather than inside, you done goofed
I honestly love seeing you guys outside of the studio, I know it's a pain but it's awesome! Reminds me of old BBC shows in a good way
Brass eye?
It’s finally happened. Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing.
Edit: I made this comment within the first 120 seconds. By the end of the video it was so much worse. I genuinely can’t believe this managed to make it past even the most junior of marketing teams.
Honestly by the end I was just confused. They should hire an autistic 5 year old so he can scream "WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE" halfway through the presentation.
Intel: BUY BLUE, cause RED is BAD!! And whatever you do, DON'T believe the benchmarks!
Remember "glued together desktop dies"? Exceedingly shady "amdflaws"? There are many more.
u absolutly right...
its neanderthal marketing^^
"Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing"
There is no proof to prove or disprove that these 2 entities are not one in the same.
Let's talk about "Intel 7". The most ludicrous snake oil thing I've seen in tech in recent years. Intel renaming their 10nm manufacturing process, that made it sound as if they had the same 7nm transistor gate length as competing AMD CPUs. Intel has no room to talk about questionable marketing.
That presentation with all the "thanks Steve" moments is the gift that keeps on giving lmao
You can literally see it!
Back to you, Steve.
Oh, those COVID Times Jewels
@ I have the bad feeling Covid had nothing to do with it ;p
@@deadmanschest4322i mentioned Covid times since that intel presentación wherebthe clips were extracted were from the CES presentation from 2020! Quarantine era!
Steve: intel is pedaling snake oil
Intel: No one wants an un-oiled snake
The latest un-oiled snake
Coffee snake (refresh)
You gotta oil your snakes so those Ophidiophobes are justified in thinking snakes are slimy.
Something about "no one wants an unoiled snake" just gave me a full body shudder and a desperate need to ask for an adult.
@@KyleMc16 the *last un-oiled snake ever
It's clear to all of us that intel hired UserBenchmark's employees to come out with a presentation like that.
I'm still waiting on userbenchmark's 🔥🔥🔥 review on 14th gen Intel. It's been a month and a half since the release and they've still got nothing to say. :(
obvious XD
No they hired the latest and greatest useless humans. The business consultant. I bet it's the same guys that work for Lego.
Ohhhhh, yes, this does remind me of UserBenchmark! You called it dead-on.
In one of the AMD cpu reviews in UB, they refer buying AMD as buying an used card. Intel's presentation has car salesman on it @@DeltaSierra426
As a materials scientist, pyrolitic graphite (“stacked graphene”) has abysmal thermal conductivity in the Z axis. It’s actually used as thermal insulator.
Steve's editing team probably spent more time removing background noise in this video than intel on that slide deck.
Yah , there was probably a lot of laughter in the background
Successfully so, you might add 👍
How do you remove laughter?
Do you need to laugh backwards so it cancels out? 😂😂
@@JohnWiku forward, but you have to laugh out of phase to cancel the other laughter
@@JohnWiku one needs to add in the sound of salt creation , they cancel each other out.
One needs be careful about the source of the salt though .
Salt coming from Reddit posts can result in wailing and nashing of teeth background noise.
Salt sourced from e-sports losers results in a high pitched whine.
This video and all of the comments were exactly what I needed today. Steve's sarcasm and incredulity never cease to amuse.
Yep
This coming after the 14 debacle is insane. This has to be an AI idea or something. No way a human thought this through.
Made by AI or a person, you are correct in that no thought was involved.
@@pkt1213nailed it. Just one addition: *rational* though wasn't involved.
AI would have done a better job, this garbage has meth written all over it...
This was my 1st impression... It was written by AI
My 2nd though was that each slide was written by a different marketing intern and no one higher up bothered to read the whole thing.
It's the Userbrnchmark guy
this presentation aged up really nicely. for AMD, that is
Just imagine what didn't make the cut for this masterpiece of a presentation LMAO
I wish the tech community would publish old Intel retail edge slides. 😉
"AMD is run by stupid doo doo heads who will rape your dog"
Imagine working for a tech giant and seeing Steve Burke in flesh in front of your company sign actively gesturing and recording some agitated speech.
I bet that's unforgettable feeling of either existential dread or immense pride (and the latter probably happens much less often).
Honestly I wouldn’t give a shit. It’s not like a big newspaper scoop about how your company is doing an Enron or similar
I would love to see the footage of Steve hiding behind that tree
@@CNGTunes And that’s why the company would fail in your case, because you underestimate the reach and power that independent media has.
@@CNGTunesthis video has over half a million views and reaches an audience who is intrested on this subject. How is that something gou can ignore as a company?
"Oh shit, is he still out there?" - "No, can't see him." - "Check his UA-cam, oh shit oh fuck."
At the end of it all we find ourselves asking "If they can't put together a presentation how can they put together a CPU?"
You can trust it because it’s the latest presentation.
They are marketing to the people who buy laptops for schools. It's a large market, at least in my backwater district in Ohio we had at least one laptop for every kid. When I was that age, every school had those crappy Windows 7 Celeron netbooks with 5200rpm HDDs that took half the class to boot. Swing by the walmart laptop section and you'll notice AMD has recently taken over a large chunk of the laptop market that intel once hed, not to mention ARM chromebooks & the fact that Apple's new laptops don't use Intel. IMO Intel pushed their products into schools before they were ready for that kind of application, and gave the Celeron a bad rep for wasting valuable classroom time. Hence why they're now saying a 5-10 year old needs an i3 for programming, and are trying to associate that bad reputation they've created for Windows netbooks with AMD. The benchmark thing is especially funny, it's like they know an underpowered chromebook will do the job just fine and there's no need for an i3 but they just need something to point at and say theirs is better.
they need to stick to making good CPUs, super hard i know
Thats easy to answer, different teams make different things. I have no doubt intel has good professional teams making the actual chips. But im interested what was actually the team that made that "but but snake oil and latest is latest and greatest but not greatest and not latest" abomination. Who are those people and why were they paid to make that abomination ? And by whom ? Now that would be interesting to know.
@@tatwood93sure but there's better ways to do that...
They are marketing solely for that one guy at userbenchmark
To me this comes across as a showcase of letting your intrusive thoughts win. It’s one of the most chaotic digital presentations I have seen from a very big company. Steve even says at the end of the video ”I don’t even know what this is about anymore”
Looks like it was cooked up by some intern trying to suck their supervisor's schlong or something. No way an actual real employee made this
The entertainment value of your videos has increased exponentially without being less informative. Truly appreciate Steve, the staff, and the entire channel as a whole.
Thanks Steve.
I love the format so far, please interview more birds in the future, Steve!
Hey Intel, student here. The most hardware-demanding job I had to do on my (otherwise several thousands of dollars worth) computer was a literal excel spreadsheet with calculations. No, I do not need an i9 for that, nor do I need it for any other Uni activity.
The intended audience is pretty clearly people with influence on the purchasing decisions for school districts. Which makes it incredibly predatory.
You know, it might be worth teaming up with the Teacher's Associations or similar to do a series on shady marketing practices and inducements in education tech, because there are a LOT!
I was under the assumption that schools mostly use Macbooks or chromebooks. Schools didn’t use PC’s when they were the better option, why would they start now?
@@WARnTEA Probably because the IT department got itself some strong voices.
Either that, or I wasted my entire high school co-op course imaging Toshiba laptops for nothing.
Yes that clearly marketed to stupid people that know nothing about computers that buy in bulk for school
A 15 year old kid absolutely needs i9 for school lol that ridiculous
I had similar thoughts on the intended target for the slides. This also reeks of ai tomfoolery, but it's just barely good enough, cohesive enough,and presented in a way to think MAYBE a human wrote it. What really bothers me though is that I don't think AMD has a good way to fight this since it's not all lies but preys on the ignorance on the viewer to not know that ,while attacking AMD, Intel are simultaneously utterly destroying their own products.
Most the schools I heard are pretty solidly in camp apple.
The filmography of this video is just a ton of fun, I love all of these comedic shots of Steve walking and talking, especially after the editor was nice enough to forewarn me of his descent into deranged mania.
it's like a 1980s music video where the singer is just walking...everywhere in the city... lol awesome
If by fun you mean awful then yeah I agree. I get that's kind of the point but shooting something lazily and terribly as a "joke" doesn't really land for me. It's more like you unironically produced crap. With that being said the script was great.
@@SpartanArmy117 I liked it
@@SpartanArmy117 It was funny you are just mad for no reason, no shit this whole video was done "fast" it was meant to be a mostly laughing at intel video not anytihng serious
@@theguy8412 Mad? Why does everyone on the internet assume anger when it's just an observation. I understand it was done "fast" but doesn't he literally roast companies and other people for not taking time and producing good products\content. I'm not saying it needs to be a masterpiece but in my opinion it's not "quirky" to frame a shot like crap "on purpose," it's just lazy. He just wanted to get back to enjoying the city, which is fine but he could've just done this later.
Intel's marketing was so bizarre, Steve had to go outside to make sure reality was still in order.
It was San Fransisco, so all the men dressed as women out of camera frame should tell him it is not
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473what a random time and place to start coping
@@Krannski triggered 2 of you "validating my delusion is your responsiblity" types in 15 minutes so totally worth it
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473lol, you're the one who got triggered by the idea of "men dressed as women" so much you brought it up in an intel video.
You're projecting, bub. Typical. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
Also, wtf does "validating my delusion is your responsibility" even mean? You seem to have constructed an image in your head and are imparting onto me things I never said. I just said you're coping. Cause you are. You got triggered by cross dressers in a video that doesn't have any cross dressers. That's called an obsession, by definition. Have a nice day.
My boss doesn't seem to think that me being the latest to work is a good thing.
I have to believe they could fire their marketing team and have engineering do it to greater effect.
Probably. Engineering *actually knows the numbers* after all.
Engineers are too busy to deal with this shit
Even the cleaning staff would do better than this, lmao.
@@lewisclark9656 Are they though? intel is back to their 5% per year improvements lol.
@NoSpamForYou If the Engineers at Intel were allowed to be as creative as they could be the world would have its first nuclear powered desktop, I joke but engineers are some of the craziest people I've ever seen and must be reigned in 90 ish percent of the time lest they wipe us all out with their inventions.
I really love the videos where Steve flims outside of the GN studio which brings more versatility in the journalism, including taking feedback from pigeons.
No one else interviewed pigeons for this story. You come to us for that level of quality.
@@GamersNexusthat pigeon got out of there quick, so I don’t know if I would call that a “constructive interview”. Still although you didn’t get a constructive interview, I still thank you for asking the questions to the individuals we all wanted.
@@americankiwi Maybe our source just didn't want to be exposed!
Steve is such a Forgotten Realms fan he's the first nerd to learn how to cast Speak with Animals in real life.
If those pigeons were on the job with IP over avian carriers, they wouldn't release their data to just any man in the middle attack, or interview.
You know it's bad when it's gone from 'other competitors' to the full product name
I bet they still do not remember the i7 "platform" cpu's name
Consider how badly Intel fucked over Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh customers well after they printed this abysmal travesty. Intel have refused any recalls for their set to degrade products out of the box, apart from a substandard Intel Default Settings BIOS placebo that massively reduces processor performance with far less efficiency than AMD Ryzen. It appears the Core Truths was that Intel was always the Snake Oil salesmen here. A class-action lawsuit could be devasting for many, not just Intel. I don't want Intel to fail at all, less competition means more stagnant and mediocre products from every company, even NVIDIA and AMD.
The fact that Intel paid competitors to either not buy AMD or make AMD underperform or be unable to run the same programs as Intel processors in the past, doubles down on the Snake Oil Salesman behavior from Intel, so ready to accuse AMD, a FAR better computer processor manufacturer currently with the Ryzen platform, while all Intel is doing is projecting their insecurities onto AMD.
Intel has become the master of shooting themselves in the foot, I just didn't expect them to triple down on the feet sawed off double-barrel so rapidly.
Still grinning ear to ear over buying the 5800x3d, appreciate you GN for including it in your shots at them!
thinking about upgrading from the 3800x to this one is it really that good?
@@ErdnußRiegel6969It is.
I've got a 5900X myself, and I'm considering the 5800X3D. I probably won't, but for gaming it's a beast.
Yes,yes and yes. Running 5800x3d and 7900xtx. Best cpu I had in a while.
I wanted to upgrade to one so bad but they're so damn expensive I had to settle for a 5700X 😔the good part is if I find one for cheap in the future I can give this pc one last revitalization lol.
i just ordered my 5800x3D, hope it holds up till rtx 50 series
Imagine being in Chinatown and seeing Steve walk by mumbling to himself about "the latest"? Damn, the industry finally broke the man.
Excellent video guys, I laughed and cried. How did Intel ever greenlight this presentation??
holy shitfuck its the youtube shorts guy !!!!!!!
Honestly it probably made him fit in more with the locals.
Because intel sees their revenue shrinking since their overpriced old stuff is mostly not bought anymore bcs they don’t really innovate that much anymore like they once did
Or interviewing a pigeon about it's views on Intel 😂
Wouldn’t be the weirdest thing in California I’ll tell you that
I love how this channel goes after everyone regardless of who they are. Integrity to the Moon!
Fucking baffles me how anything even remotely close to this quality of official document leaves a cubicle/office of a corporation, not to mention gets posted on the internet.
Truly amazing times we're living in.
That was the best promotional presentation AMD ever had.
My main takeaway from this slide deck is that everyone on the team that put it together has definitely keyed the car of at least one ex.
Shows how scared Intel is getting.
AMD is garbage
@@MikehMike01intel should hire you to make more of these slide decks
@@MikehMike01What, exactly, do you think you gain from this? Think Pat Gelsinger is going to show up at your house to tug one out for you and give you a complementary 14900K?
@@MikehMike01 Thank you Intel worker #231763, very cool.
@@MikehMike01🤓
You know, capitalism might be dying when multi-billion dollar corporations are marketing their products with less dignity and professionalism than a 5 year old explaining why Batman is the best superhero.
Why are all the executives insane and/or stupid?
i moved from a 13900k to a 7950X3D. Efficient, great on games, and great on productivity. 253 watts vs 130 watts on the same workload. intel is sweating.
Yup its pretty great, i tried out both a 7950x and x3d and the x3d is even more efficient than the x.
The 7800X3D is even more incredible. I have that thing in an ITX system and it just sips power, plus it gets the maximum out of a 4090.
Holy crap that table with the age groups and "multi-tasking ability" is hilarious. Feels like something out of a fever dream when you take any consideration as to what it means
I actually bursted out laughing seeing Esports as the most intense cpu task there is. Also digital content creation should definitely be above programming & coding.
Wasn't there an Intel slide few years ago talking about having a 20% larger army or something? Maybe they're talking about Starcraft micro/macro multitasking...
@@jogeem5480depends on how you look at it. Programming explicitly is the creation of digital content. Compiling chromium will take 30 minutes up to multiple hours depending on the CPU you are using.
Multi-tasking stopped being a marketing point in the 80s!
@@jogeem5480I genuinely laughed at eSports being above machine learning
I've built 4-5 pcs and this time for the first time I went with a amd cpu. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. All I do is game and the 7800x3d is a beast. Only £300 and very power efficient. Using about 80w.
I'm glad you made this video.
I couldn't believe the slides were real when I saw them a few days ago.
"There's no way the company that released Skylake more times than Bethesda released Skyrim and whose current generation is identical to it's last generation would open themselves up to this kind of criticism" I thought
Intel's business plan: We can compensate for our new high-power CPUs with our new lowest standards marketing tricks, and no one will notice.
but not from Steve
except wait... the new "high-power cpu" is basically the last one. well shi-
...and then they immediately regretted it after watching Steve's video...
Maybe they should invest some of the money and ear they lend to the marketing department into the engineer department
We should get a "Most WTF Marketing move of the Year" or something like that... this one is definitelly nominated.
Intel wouldn't win every year.
That was wild. I can't believe a global, multi-billion dollar corporation would produce such a poor quality shi...er slideshow.
@@spamcan9208Come on man, that wouldnt qualify as Shitpost. As a Professional shitposter, I refuse to Accept this as a valid Form of Presentation. 😂
@@BossfightmediaI can see you're a shitpost expert, as my cut off remark was actually "shit show."
Twitch definitely won that award this year.
I'm not sure if I can get in contact with you all via email so I figured I'd drop a comment here since it's fairly relevant. I'm noticing lately a lot of tech outlets are recommending ancient (i.e GTX 1660/RTX 2060) GPUs as "deals" when they're being sold on Amazon for literally twice as much as you could get a GPU for on the used market, or just get a modern GPU for the same damn price. I just recorded a completely unhinged rant about the topic because it GENUINELY pisses me off.
What caused me to spiral out of control on the topic is an article from PC Guide with the headline "EVGA midrange 20 series gaming GPU’s price plunges in Amazon deal."
Like, why the hell is the author recommending four year old GPUs that get destroyed by even low end GPUs of this generation? Why are they $300? Why did they do zero research and just copy and paste the marketing? And most egregious: WHY ARE THEY COMPARING TO A SEVEN YEAR OLD GPU?
I'm seeing this ABSOLUTELY everywhere. If it's LAST GEN stuff I get it, but more and more I'm seeing tech outlets recommending ancient stuff as "deals" when if you did just a LITTLE research you'd find that's not the case
When a company starts throwing punches like this, it usually means they've thrown in the towel on actually competing with product quality.
Exactly. They got nothin'. Intel is trying to tell us, they give up. 😂
@@JwhateverJ they need some amd glue
Except they're not?? We're not in the 14nm++++++++++++ era anymore.
@@MrHav1k We may not be, but intel has been getting thrashed fairly consistently in all markets by AMD for a few years now.
Intel throwing huge cash at fabs makes it obvious what they're doing. They're planning to dip out of taking the raw design space seriously since it's obvious they're slipping hard, and just go to focusing all their efforts to doing contract fab work for the huge AI giants like Nvidia and... well, probably AMD too. Ride the coattails of the current geopolitical climate, which is decidedly not business friendly. Which is perfectly valid, but potentially leaves some market holes in the x86 space that ARM/RISC/etc may start gobbling up once AMD goes back to being complacent.
There's an old proverb that applies to Intel right now: 'those who live in glass houses should not throw stones'.
Really appreciated the team's videography efforts here. Fun to see y'all always pushing yourselves creatively.
"As students progress, their activities place increasing demands on their computers" and in the previous slide they said kids should have i3 and i5... if that statement is true you should be slapping an i9 into every kids device so that they won't have to upgrade their chips every few years, and "the latest isn't the best" so I guess an i9 today will still be great in 10 years. It's the most anti-marketing I've ever seen.
10:20 Gee, I was about to buy a 12600k for my 10-year old to play minecraft on but now that Intel has graced me with knowledge I now know that they deserve nothing higher than an i3. Thanks intel!
Good guy Intel, saving you money 😊
Get your 10 yr old a 5800X3D and be happy with the fact that Intel is still struggling to overcome that CPU, even now and seemingly very salty about it.
@@SpeCifiC0507woosh
Should get your 10 yo a 5600x instead.
5600 or 7600 should be enough.
I remember the Spectre -30% performance. I remember when they tried to paywall overclocking.
Glad I went AMD since AM4.
They still do paywall OCing sadly, unless something has changed you pretty much need a K-sku chip and a Z-series board to do any OCing.
@@AliceC993 intel is literally selling CPU feature subscriptions, where you would have to pay monthly for access to certain features. Currently that only targets servers, but I'm sure they are gonna try the same thing for the consumer market at some point.
@@NeXtdra42 Ah yes, the BMW approach. What a time to be alive.
As someone who just bought a 14700k, and whose son just bought a 14900k, while my other son runs a Ryzen, I can assure you that things are not always "the latest", nor are they always what they seem. The Ryzen is built on a 7nm process, and runs relatively cool peaking about 60C even with overclocking and no special cooling. The 14900k and 14700k are fast, yes, but since they are built on a 10nm process, in order to get that speed, they eat power, and crank out heat. They are designed to run at 256 watts, and peak at more. That takes at least a 950 watt power supply, and a massive amount of cooling. We had better than average cooling, but it still was peaking at over 90C at times, way too hot for a long life. We are moving up to a Dark Cool Assassin IV, Thermal Grizzly liquid metal, some 6000 RPM bitcoin mining fans, and some quieter 2-3000 RPM fans. In addition, we throttled the CPU down to peak at 170 watts. I expect that we can get the temperatures to peak at maybe 70 C, which is still pretty hot.
Now, let's talk about who is selling snake oil. My understanding is that Intel has been unable to get their 7nm process running on schedule, so they are renaming their 10nm process to be called "Intel 7", and that when the 7nm process gets running, it will be called "Intel 4". If this is incorrect, someone, please correct me, but if it is correct, then that is disingenuous, sorry Intel. Are the 14700k and 14900k the "latest and greatest" or are they somewhat dated, using an older 10nm process to make them? In my opinion, the latter, and had I realized how much heat they put out, I would definitely have gone with a 7nm Ryzen.
This is what happens when the marketing team becomes the ruling class within a company.
Wouldn't be surprised if their whole presentation was *written by AI* at this point. 😂
Maybe that's the explanation. It was written by AI and posted accidentally by some fool in Marketing. That's why they took it down again.
Pretty sure AI would have done a better job
so true !!! 🤣🤣🤣
And that AI was run on Intel ARC GPUs
Copy paste text from chatGPT without reading -> get paid -> feel successful at your job = intel employees.
Talking about snake oil, if it wasnt for Ryzen Intel would still be selling us 14nm 4-8 core cpus.
This aged like fine wine
I’d be embarrassed to tell the public that the competition, thats blowing us out the water in terms of performance, was created 3 years ago while our project, that doesn’t give as much, came out this year 🙃