Man fires Byrna at intoxicated suspect
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- A man said he fired his Byrna at an alleged intoxicated suspect when he became aggressive. Listen to what he said happened.
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Man had a right to protect himself. He did NOT use deadly force. Nothing in our constitution dictates that we have to run from aggression.
actually, in certain states like minnesota you have a DUTY to retreat before protecting yourself
POM, Byrna, Taser, blackjack, firearm, grenade. You are your own first responder.
As a registered gun owner and self defense instructor, the Byrna is appreciated as an alternative for some users. However, listen to this accounting. The Bryna has 5 shots. His first shot was the kinetic round, and the second was the Max. He, then, completely discharged the weapon. The guy finally started to cough and rub his eyes (This was against a SINGLE person from distance). Then the person was capable of running away. Imagine if you were a 90lb woman in a darkened parking lot or facing a person, not intoxicated, but on drugs. Or facing more than one person. 🤔 Luckily, for this man, he was facing an unarmed, yet drunk, individual.
Glad to here this event ended without lethal force being used. Ordering a Byrna for my daughter.
Get plenty of spare C02 and practice rounds for her. It's worthless if she doesn't know how to use it without thinking.
@@johnpauljones9310
No different than a gun. If you don’t have rounds or don’t maintain it, it’s useless. If you don’t train with a weapon, it’s useless.
This is the future. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A BYRNA
Why?
@@j.m.youngquist419 Why not?
@@j.m.youngquist419Because crazy stuff happens and you never know when or where.
Sounds like byrna employees
See if everyone had these, it'd be a whole lotta cryin' and nobody dyin'. That's a win in my book.
These absolutely are capable of killing someone or getting you an aggrivated assault charge in the right situation, such that the level of respect shown firearms still applies.
@@Harlem55 I still would hope people wouldn't pull these at any lil disagreement. I know they're dangerous. You would hope before things got dicey people would think "is this misunderstanding worth not being in excruciating pain, unable to see or breathe for a couple minutes?"
@@c.d.j300 The problem with that in theory is that this device appears to be a firearm, and as such can get you criminally charged with unlawful display of a firearm if youre not careful. This isnt something you can legally have out waiving around in public or in an argument like a can of pepper spray.
@@Harlem55 oh this will most definitely get you shot by the police. All I'm saying is of these are the concealed weapons people got licenses for, and used in trying situations, there would be a lot less meaningless deaths in my opinion. Of course it would be useless against a real gun. But in an ideal world where there are fire arms, these would be it. Just imagine a bunch of dudes in a warzone crying with bruised skin and egos.
@@c.d.j300 I agree with you that civillians have a need for less lethal weapons given that a firearm is rarely the appropriate tool. However, these ahould be required to have orange blaze to differentiate them from firearms, given the popularity of .50 cal handguns- and the manufactuer ought do training materials as to know and articulate the level of threat sufficient for intermediate force, how it relates to deadly force, and how it relates to lesser levels of force such as areosols. Rather, the law enforcement continum of force model doesnt translate well to the civilian world because civillian self defense doesnt rely on Graham v. Connor, in classic application of Grahm as to the factors to be considered the basic legal guide as to evaluate reasonableness of force such that we can easily determine the most appropriate weapon without becomming a test case. The government most probably doesnt like these weapons because they apparently think theyre about to start showing up at Antifa or Maga rallies and so fourth. And then you have the whole issue of high schoolers lacking any real discretion or self control getting their hands on these - hence the reason im not so thrilled to see these on Amazon.
You initiated the contact! Let the police do their job so you don't have to engage!
That is what I was thinking there is nothing to say after the police call. Just stay out of the way at that point. What if he had a real firearm on him
Some people just don't get it! this situation is exactly where the Byrna comes into play, a firearm would have been to much! FYI I do carry a firearm but depending on what I'm doing or where I'm going I carry the Byrna launcher. Having a choice of tools is great!!
And the other guy takes out his Real Gun and shoots you!
@@runeplate123 first off! yes that could be a posibility! second bad people are going to do bad things any way when doing bad things. 3rd situational awareness goes along way before, during and after a situation! A fire arm is not always the best tool! The bad guy gets to pick when where and who they attack! you will always be on the defence! There are many videos of robberies where defenders had a firearm but never got a chance to use it. what I'm saying is this, situational awareness and a choice of tools is your best offence. For me if I use my Byrna and the other guy pulls a firearm, he is going to get 5 to the face then I'm going to leave/run if able! For some people haveing a firearm is not an option but the Byrna is! Any tool if used correctly could increase your chance of surviving an attack, but even with a firearm your chances of not getting hurt or killed is not guanteed! If I have a choice when being attacked of haveing nothing, or something! I will always pick something......
Maybe where you live in Massachusetts if you shoot someone in the face when you could have easily got away your going to jail LOOK IT UP in my state if you have easy route of escape your right to shoot is gone this would be considered same charges as shooting a person a pellet gun a felony none the less not sure exactly how charge would read but my guess would be assault and battery with dangerous weapon.
It's much better than a stun gun actually since its blinding and an irritant combined. My opinion.
Awesome to hear, Byrna got the job done and nobody goes to the morgue, what a great line of products.
Unless it doesn't work and you go to the morgue.
or prison
@@freedomofspeech361 You haven't been in the position where the next second decides if you live.
@@ponispal Doesn't matter, I'd rather have a much better choice and have all my bases covered. Not saying though that this isn't a good alternative in certain situations, but it wouldn't be good in every situation. It could also possibly get one killed if attempted to use it in the wrong scenario.
That's messy. All kinds of paperwork
whether or not you wouldve confronted this guy or not is up to you. it seems that this time the byrna stopped an aggressive individual and noone got seriously hurt. que sera sera.
Recently I had the opportiny to chat with on of our local officers and asked him about the Byrna. His response was this, yes I can use that to protect my live AND property without getting in trouble. In short this is the only offensive weapon I own.
I don’t believe this story because the police sounded reasonable.
Oh my goodness! You mean they didn't act Stupidly!!!!! (like Obuma would say) . LOL.
And that is why we carry a Byrna at all times even right outside our home. It's no joke it does the job and nobody dies....
I agree but don't put yourself in a situation he should had just called the police and let them handle it there was no need to inform the guy that the police wanted to talk to him that is why the guy came at him be smart out here guys
@@MrGameChangers So 3 days ago a Coyote and his friends snuck up on my pit bulls out outback should I have let the dogs handle it , call the police or handle it myself as a red blooded American????? My dog's didn't set eyes on them but they started running at us one got popped in the head And now I watch them from a distance the last 3 days because they're too scared to come on my property... might I add a lesson was learned and Nothing died........
Sir if you read my original comment you will clearly understand and that we both said the same thing
@@MrGameChangers Sorry maybe I wasn't clear what I meant was if you can handle it yourself you never call for another........
Absolutely agree with you, I EDC carry my byrna, for 2 years now, rather be ready than sorry.
Well done!
I dont see how you would get out of that in georgia unless he made physical contact
Really? I thought Georgia's pretty tight w/2A & self defense laws.
I would never trust my life to a co2 cartridge and halapeno peppers.
I don't agree with his approach he should had called the police and let them come and deal with the situation period. If the guy had a real gun and they got into a shootout it could had been real bad for him. Please people don't put yourself in a situation that you can avoid. Only be prepared if trouble comes looking for you.
@@ghostdog2898 mwahaha
If somebody runs at you on your own property No matter what they've said to you you have the right to use it.....
Relisten to the story. The police had been called. What would you have had him done? let him get back on the tractor and do more damage or kill someone? He did the right thing.
I love this because this is the issue that all of you guys are missing. If I see someone cause damage to my vehicle or other people stuff I will just call the police. That is the reason I have car insurance to replace my car or get it fix for stupid things when they happen that's for one. Two it's amazing how all you guys want to play John Wick and feel like you have to defend and directly put yourself into a situation. For this guy story yeah this time it worked out but for many other people it didn't workout so much. Take the same story of Ahmaud Arbery, three white guys thought that this young man was stealing in the neighborhood. They decided to involve themselves, follow this young man, decided to engage with him and now two of them is doing life in prison. All of this could had been avoided if they just called the police and let them do there jobs. People stop trying to be gunho out here I am sure that the guy who created Byrna doesn't want people out here getting into unnecessary altercations. Now if the guy who was telling the story had said he was minding his business and a intoxicated man just walk up to him and became violence towards him and he had to use his Byrna I would supported that but it wasn't smart to walk up to the intoxicated man and tell him that the police is on the way and you need to stay here, that could had became a bad situation for him if the intoxicated man had a gun himself, stay smart out here people stay smart.
@@MrGameChangers I don't know what to say to someone like yourself other than I wish you weren't so brainwashed. What would you do if a drunk person walked by you on the sidewalk and spits in your wife's face: Think about what your grandfather would have done It would not be the same as you ... you'd ask him why hes having such a bad day you'd ask him to stand there while you call the police .......A man would hit him in the face with a brick...... The difference between a lion and an elephant is not that The lion is stronger or that the lion is faster or that the lion is bigger It's just the lion's mindset It's why hes king . he sees the elephant and thinks lunch the elephant sees the lion and thinks run....... Your mindset is off..... You don't need to be stupid it's all about common sense but man up....
Pepper balls need to be legal in California.
They are not? This is why I wonder about Hannity sometimes, because he states "Legal in all 50 states". This is a great story and I want one, but reality is if this guy were on crack or was determined in some way he would not have stopped. I have seen the video of the former Navy Seal that completed his firing practice course while someone else was shooting him with the Byrna and it was misfiring half the time. I would caution against over hyping this as someone is going to be over confident and the lawyers are going to be confident.
Pepper balls contain chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm 😅
they are you just need to get a chemical agent permit
Since I'm in California, where the Byrna max rounds cannot be used without a security guard certificate, I wonder if you think the kinetic round(s) alone would have stopped him.
Doubtful since they're .50 cal or .68 cal ranging from 280 fps- 330 fps pepper ball rounds would be suggestively used in similar situations and not just Cinetic rounds. Again, my opinion.
PS. You have Gavin Newson as Govenor; he's an Idiot.
Discharged his weapon 🤣
Reasonably could have avoided confrontation in this situation. I have the SD
What are the different rounds that the burn of fires and what are their volatility?
It's a good thing it was a Byrna and not an actual firearm since the intoxicated man didn't have a weapon of any kind. Byrna saved both their lives. Buying a Byrna is on my bucket list.
Since you did not kill the crazy neighbor did he exact any revenge on you when he bonded out the next day?
This is exactly what I was thinking??? Like now you gotta just sleep a couple houses down from the guy you shot 2 days ago
@@alexglaser_ At the very least it will be very awkward every time they see each. Hey Bill sorry for shooting you the other day lol
You can say that for almost any case in which one neighbor gets into it with another neighbor. The issue is once the cops have been involved usually someone backs down. Usually.
@@alexglaser_ most sane people aren't going to try something like that twice, there's a risk, but the outcome could end up exactly the same for him, why should he risk that?
@@BigWheel. because perhaps he's NOT a sane individual.....
It's only a matter of time before a rookie cop does something like arrest you for defending yourself with an air pistol.
What state were you in
First round was kinetic, 2nd was Max, what about the rest? We’re they all Max after? Do you guys think the Pepper found would have been just as effective? Is paying more for the Max worth it and necessary?
Everyone thinks these guns are better than killing the person but man now you gotta live down the street from the guy, I wouldn't trust him not to come in my house at night and kill me or some shit.
That is why you have the option, most people I know have both real weapons and also the Byrna
@@chrisfry436 I only have a real weapon, if they don't break in my house they'll never see it. pretty simple imo. I don't believe in less than lethal, you never know what people are on
Can you discharge the Byrna in your home and it not affect the homeowners?
Not the pepper. That would contaminate your home and require a lot of cleaning up, so I hear.
@@nihonbunka , Not true! It's literally the same as spilling a spoonful of cayenne pepper.
A non-firearm weapon legal in all 50 states that can non-lethally stop and incapacitate a fully clothed grown man from distance.
Got my Byrna last week. I always carried a semi but was nervous as hell if I had to shoot someone because law-abiding citizens face way more legal hassles than perps. This is perfect.
Well let me say I also carry the SDXL that being said just cause we carry this none lethal tool it does not mean we should put ourselves in situations in wear we need to use it we should follow all rules as if it's a real weapon , if that was me yes I would call the cops but I would never engage with him in any way because you don't know if he has a real weapon or if he is on drugs, it would be a shame to loose your life over a mail box, carrying the byrna shouldn't make you feel like you have bigger balls and confront people we should have the same mind set as carrying a real weapon and that is to only use it when the situation is unavoidable to walk away from, we are living in crazy times in were minding your business or avoiding conflicts means making it to your job the next day...🤔
If he was drunk all you had to do was move out of the way. Don't call a Byrna a weapon
The Byrna is a self defense weapon, just like a baseball is a self defense weapon.
Is in damaging to springs in magazine to leave kinetic balls in magazine for a long period of time? Thanks
Springs don't really lose tension or get damaged from being loose or compressed for long periods of time, they do wear out from being compressed and released over and over.
@@reprobaterenegade2594 Thanks!
I'm kind of on the fence about purchasing the byrna now..you said you unloaded the whole clip on your attacker & "he kind of stopped" after the pepper round hit him....listen, theres men over 6ft & 250lbs + that if they were enraged enough or on drugs could probably eat those byrna rounds for breakfast...either they start making stronger rounds or its just not strong enough for my liking. If I shoot this thing at somebody in the face, neck or chest I wanna know that they are too fucked up to come back at me.
The point is it's non lethal. You can only get so close.
@@BigWheel. that's true, but I'm sure they can make rounds that can knock out or break bones of your attacker. Ive seen ppl experiment getting shot with byrna rounds, it looks like a marginally stronger paint ball effect. Just because something is non lethal, doesnt mean it can't seriously fuck somebody up & send them to the hospital when they get hit.
@@dl5014 check out the Grimburg HP68 rounds. They're rifled and will break glass at over 90ft away. They have actually caused death multiple times.
@@Studiotek thanks for the info!..you can use those rounds in the Byrna?
@@dl5014 you can shoot the Grimburg JUL through the Byrna, but to shoot the HP68, I think you need a rifled barrel like the First Strike FSC (which has interchangeable barrels).
Some states don't allow pepper spray without permission. Check your states info FYI
Good use of your byrna
So you go outside from the safety of your home to confront someone over property damage and attempt to prevent his leaving, giving half a dozen verbal commands, then after drawing his attention, shoot half a dozen jalapeños balls at him that made him cough.
And byrna considers this good publicity.
What should he have done? The dude was drunk he wasn't in his right mind shooting him would have been Overkill but if that guy had gone at him for just even telling him to stop screwing around it could have gotten really bad. This is sort of that Middle road most people can now take that they probably couldn't before.
@@frankrecinos7158 He should have have called the police and stayed inside. He knew where the perp lived. Suppose the perp had a real gun? Different story. Will the perp look for revenge now?
“You need to stay here, the police wanna talk to you” yeah okay buddy cause we ALL finna listen to that 🙄
Seems like avoidance was also a possibility here. Confrontation can escalate a situation. Just my opinion.
I want to get one, but sadly here in Canada I can't get the Chemical rounds which I think is Key to subduing assailants.
I will tell you that the kinetic only projectiles are very very effective.
You guys can have sawed off shotguns why would you need this
@@Drizo41 Because I enjoy hearing and am not fond of killing people.
@@shellhalvesinthesea700 no one is found of killing people but when some one comes after my live I’m not pulling my bryna
@@Drizo41 I would just for a couple of reasons. I have had to use a firearm indoors without earpro. As soon as you pull that shot, you are disoriented and I threw up and could not stand. I will use any method to try to survive the attack but my first choice will NOT be a firearm again. I have several options for not harming myself in the process of defending myself. So a Byrna is a good option as a first resort and the firearm being the absolute last resort. The most ironic part is the firearm was loaded with #6 birdshot that I had tubed from using the previous day. So not only was I hurt more than he was but just being hit with birdshot was enough to stop the attack so it was little more effective than being hit with a kinetic projectile. I have 30 percent hearing in one ear and less than that in the other. I cannot drive anymore because my balance is off and on top of that anytime you have to fire a weapon at someone you get arrested and I had to spend lots of money in my defense. yeah I would use a byrna.
I am thinking about one of these units for my wife and daughter, when I am not around, while adding a less than lethal option for my armory
And if he had just NOT confronted tractor man and let the police handle it, he would not have had to discharge his Byrna. He knew where tractor man lived and could have directed the cops. Carrying a Byrna actually encouraged or emboldened him to involve himself in the situation where there was no imminent danger to life..when, for true non lethal self defense, he should not have engaged himself in the situation. tough guy with a pepper spray gun.
This is a good point, this kind of tool drastically reduces the threshold of what becomes self defense. And with very little liability combined with people carrying them all over they really just want to use it
either way, seems like a legitimate use, and a reliable self defence tool
A good example of a situation that does not call for lethal force. In this case the Byrna owner would have to kill a man and then face all kinds of consequences (rightfully so) or turn a blind eye to an intoxicated menace to him and others. Destroying property and possibly hurting someone badly. His injuries are, in the end, non consequential and perhaps saved another person great harm, yes, even the drunken idiot. Any number of things could’ve happened in this scenario, most of them bad. The citizen did the right thing with the right tool. Most cases of street self defense of self or property can and should end this way. At the end of the day everyone concerned can go home with, hopefully, lesson learned.
❤ it cost nothing to mind your own business! 😂
Can we trust that drunk tractor man was no longer a danger to others or himself? He had already damaged other people's property. All the OP did was ask him to stay here because the police wanted to talk to him.
Wheres video?
They will allow you to bring that to school?..if so,im shocked
No, def not. If we're talking public high school, I remember I couldn't even have pepper spray.
Being in the north east, for whatever reason, I still can't find a Bryna video where folks are discharging their Byrna rounds at someone with a thick jacket. Ain't nobody got time to buy one if the rounds are going to simply bounce off. Anyone have a link to this sort of video? I feel like every video shows folks in California wearing t-shirts and flipflops getting pelted or big dudes with their shirts off, featuring their chest tattoos and man-boobs.
I seen one last night. Dude put on a black leather jacket. This crap bounced off him like ping pong balls... The money for this crap is a joke...
Heres the video you been looking for... ua-cam.com/video/JUIX2rPhExI/v-deo.html
@@defensivecitizen873 saw that video....thats shit hurt
My only question is, how did you know this guy was drunk? You have no authority to make that assumption. That guy might have been on illegal drugs. You can not make that statement. From a legal standpoint, that guy could sue you for slander on your assumption. NEVER assume what condition a suspect has. Defend yourself, absolutely. NEVER call a Byrna a weapon. Then you open yourself up to a possible felony charge. Byrna is a non-lethal self-defense launcher, PERIOD. I might sound negative, but the world we live in will sue you in a heartbeat for what you might or might not say in your statements. Be aware of what you are saying.
agree
Best to not say anything or few things as possible also can you get insured for carrying a Byrna?
@@caseG80 I subscribe to USCCA since I have concealed carry permit, so USCCA.
Check with your insurance company and get liability insurance.
This guy did everything wrong I would not have put this story on social media unless he’s looking for some gratification for doing absolutely nothing to change anything
You sound a little unhinged. Calm down a little, ok?
I’m glad that no one was seriously injured BUT, there was absolutely no reason to confront the drunk on a tractor. Be ready to defend yourself? YES! Be a good witness to what the drunk man was doing? YES! Confronting that person (and ordering him to stay)? NO!!! That was a stupid thing to do! Life is not a movie and, you could have gotten yourself killed…and for what? A drunk guy hitting a couple of mailboxes!?! Be ready but, be smart!
i dont feel like hes telling the truth he skipped the whole middle part of the story and went straight to saying "a little while after that he started running towards me" how we know he wasnt the one being aggresive just so he can tic the guy off just so he can use his byrna
In Canada, they would have arrested you for defending yourself!
That's why you get rid of that dictator Trudeau. Feed him to the sharks. 💯💯💯
Sad.
You discharged your paintball pistol😂
Its OC and CS gas, thats gonna have someone crying whether they want to or not
I would love to see the police report.
What would happen if a person of color did what you did??? Would the cops say self-defense????
Total bs, just a marketing ad
This is kind of a funny story about how some people who think they are smart but are really stupid, I was talking to someone that I know of, whose father was in the past, a mob henchmen, he told me his family wasn't a gun family but his father carried guns on himself, so I asked him if he carried and he said no, so then I asked him if would carry a Byrna and he asked what's that? I proceeded to tell him its a less lethal weapon that people are carrying with themselves an alternative so as to stop rather than to kill, so then I asked him, don't you worry about the possibility of a violent confrontation, of being attacked? His response was, sure, sometimes but how good is a less lethal when you really need to have a real gun? So, this response from a guy whose father was a tough guy for the mob, who carried guns to do those kinds of things and his son who doesn't carry any protection but thinks about the possibility from time to time about violent attacks and a less lethal like the Byrna is useless and won't help. Does that make any sense? To be vulnerable and allow yourself to be a victim from anyone who can't control themselves or someone who has intentions of doing bodily harm to you? When it happens and it is too late to protect yourself and or your loved ones, it really is too late.
It's always better to HAVE it and Not need it than to need it and Not have it, isn't that right? Smart money would agree. Lmao💯💯😁😁👍👍
Go make someone and offer they can't understand....
Thats because U are in the States. Try that in other place, with other police and other government ! Lawyers and prosecutors...apart.
Jesus Christ the amount of bots in here.
Sounds like BS
Why don't you explain what a Burna is? Otherwise, this is totally out of context.
Byrna is a non-lethal weapon. Basically shoots balls of pepper spray that pop.
@@FuzDoesStuff thank you, but you need to do it on your videos!
These commercials at least 80%fake
That is a bunch of B.S. I'm a security officer in Houston Texas 3 months ago exactly in March all the way up till June 1st of 2023 I was reposted in Harris County from SouthWest Houston to another job assignment because I was at an apartment complex I to own a SD Byrna I respectfully approached the guy knocking on the door while he was in the vehicle he was there after hrs looking suspect in vehicle everything turned off slouched down in seat txting I simply asked him how he was doing and what was the reason for him just chilling in parking lot he got furious and started screaming obscenities which is disorderly conduct saying come on bro your not even a f****** cop I responded we are connected with Harris County don't want no problems with you were just here to protect property as I'm walking off I take a picture of license plate and him to was on drugs was later told that he was but when I took that pic of the lic he charged at me like a maniac cursing at me in Spanish I'm not racist I am Mexican just as well I said step back he did not listen he still charged and I Drew my byrna at at him he started being a drama queen I'm going to get you I have something for your a** I was told unless he was drawing any type of weapon I still had no right to draw my byrna cause it was not justified and in this video that we just watched he pulled his byrna and shot than explained to Authorities what he did and did not get in trouble I didn't either get in Trouble but the guy was trying to state that I was in error and tried to file a civil suit against me he didn't win HE got evicted from his place of residence
Man starts fight with drunk .shoots him in the face with a ladys gun . Real hero!
What do you mean by a lady's gun?
Another hero inserting himself into a potentially dangerous situation unnecessarily. Unwise to say the least.
And cowards like you will film and try to get hits instagram
First of all you are not a police officer I guess and he doesn’t have to listen to you I guess. Let the police do their thing people go around acting like they have power over others.
Next time you hear a bump in the night.......call a drunk guy driving a tractor for help !!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Just my opinion this product is junk I was going to buy one but saw the 380$ and decided to do some homework there are tons of videos of people being shot by these don't seem to have much power at all they leave nice welts but would not stop a intoxicated person and must say 380$ for glorified bb gun is ridiculous also in today's anti gun culture if these were affective states like mine Massachusetts would be already illegal just my opinion though I will say I'm not a gun expert but did grow up using guns and see weak and ineffective when I see it.
BUT, why all 5 rounds on 1 person? surely 1 round should be enough?
I own a Byrna BTW
Charles. Because he can. And he made sure the guy wasn't going to do anything stupid. 💯💯😁😁👍👍
Yes I would do a minimum of 3 rounds to the chest on attacker... I also carry a spare magazine IWB with 5 extra byrna Max rounds.
Lol cool 😎
snitch
All the bryna fan boys came here to say “great use of your byrna”
& Basically they came to stroke they’re ego
And to feel less like they waisted $400-$500 on a C02 gun
Being politically correct has nothing to do with self defence. Somehow you are very confused
" weapon ".... lol...must suk to be a felon