Meta Quest 3S vs. 3 vs. 2: A Deep Dive Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @VirtualMoose
    @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +11

    There are 2 pretty big features on the Quest 3S that I forgot to mention in this video:
    ❌It has no headphone jack, meaning you’ll have to rely on Bluetooth headphones or the speakers.
    ✅It has a physical button to swap between passthrough and full VR.
    Apologies I don’t know how I missed these!

    • @Zeninari
      @Zeninari Місяць тому +2

      don't remember if you actually made the point sorry if you did but i didn't hear it, but:
      ❌️the quest 3s has no depth sensor, it is unknown how this will actually impact pass-through games at this time but its something to note.
      if you said this ill delete the comment once you respond.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      @@Zeninari no need to delete the comment, I don’t think I mentioned it…it is worth mentioning, I imagine it will mostly effect things like automatic guardian boundary setup, but we will have to wait and see 😬
      Thanks for mentioning it!

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay Місяць тому +25

    I love that there's a more affordable option. I don't get why people are pushing back against it. It's good for VR and even Quest 3 owners who want more support for the headset they paid for. It's been statistically proven that when prices go down on VR headsets sales go up. The Quest 2 outsold the Quest 3 for a reason. The PSVR2 sales shot up when the price went down. Plus, people are acting like they didn't know what the 3S would be and are suddenly surprised when the headset leaked months before its announcement. If you can't afford or justify the price of the Quest 3 get on board with the 3S you won't be disappointed! 😁

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +3

      Totally agree, I think it's a great deal - especially when you consider it's literally the same price as the Quest 2 but with massive upgrades. I believe the Quest 3S is Meta's attempt to get mixed reality to the masses, and drive the industry forward. Like you said, cheaper headsets sell. All in all a good addition to the Quest lineup I'd say!

    • @IntenseVR
      @IntenseVR Місяць тому +1

      Yes. One thing I hate about quest3s is fresnel lenses which really makes it feel more 2d and less real. However, it’s a nice cheaper option to dive into colored mixed reality 😊

    • @lesterkennethtimbang9019
      @lesterkennethtimbang9019 Місяць тому +1

      @@IntenseVR don't worry you only say that because you experienced the pancake lense. I can't unsee it myself.But for those who havent tried the pancake lense it wont make much difference.

    • @emmamcgorrin2478
      @emmamcgorrin2478 Місяць тому +1

      Ive got mine today just charging it up and away I go

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      @@emmamcgorrin2478 awesome, hope you have fun with it!

  • @korysovec
    @korysovec Місяць тому +9

    Personal anecdote: I went from Lenovo Explorer to Quest 3 as upgrade to Quest 2 seemed too minor. But after using Quest 3 I tried my friends Quest 2 for the first time and was surprised how good the picture looks in it. So even though Q3S and Q2 fresnel lenses aren't as good as pancake lenses, they are damn good fresnel lenses.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks for sharing dude, I get a similar experience when I go back to use my Q2 every now and again. The visual quality is of course not as good, but I'm always expecting it to be worse than it is and am pleasantly surprised.
      I bet it was nice to go from the Lenovo Explorer to the Q3 though 😅

  • @PGandPickle
    @PGandPickle Місяць тому +2

    Cant wait to see the review from your channel for quest 3S!

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      That's if I get one, I have a Quest 3 so not really necessary...but maybe my wife will want one hehe

  • @gregfreeze8649
    @gregfreeze8649 17 днів тому +1

    Great comparison video! Subscribed 👍

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  16 днів тому

      Thank you so much! Look forward to having you around the channel 😃

  • @KaleahVR
    @KaleahVR Місяць тому +2

    This thumbnail is insane!! Great video 🎉

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much! Love it when my thumbnails get recognition haha 😆

  • @korysovec
    @korysovec Місяць тому +3

    Also, the fact that there is almost no warping in passthrough nowadays is insane. And the white balance/dynamic range improved a lot as well. Whenever I am playing something I can just go into passthrough and message someone on my PC/phone totally fine. I can also clean the apartment/fold my clothes in passthrough no problem.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Yes I'm so glad there have been multiple updates to improve the passthrough quality, it's a lot better now than it was at release. Fingers crossed we still keep getting upgrades to it 🤞
      The Quest 3 passthrough makes doing chores so much more entertaining haha, only thing I'm still not 100% confident in is cutting vegetables in passthrough 😅

    • @korysovec
      @korysovec Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose yeah anything with high precision is probably not ideal, but it is in some sense a glance into the future.
      With Orion coming out in a couple of years, having head mounted displays while walking around the house will be pretty much normal.
      Couple of things that would be now nice would be the ability of anchoring the virtual windows with UA-cam or some light game to your body so you don't have to constantly move it around yourself.
      As a RuneScape player I could see myself continuing the grind on a side, even when paying other fully immersive games. And personally I would also welcome a screen mirroring/streaming from Linux PC.

  • @jameslane2326
    @jameslane2326 Місяць тому +4

    Everyone brings up the lower PPD as a negative, but it does have a positive as well. seeing as how the 3 and 3 s share the same cpu and gpu, the lower resolution means better more consistent frame rates and or lower heat output on the 3s.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      I’m hoping that’s the case, it’d be a silver lining for the Quest 3S, but I guess we will see soon once it’s been reviewed!

  • @MissLittleMarmalade
    @MissLittleMarmalade День тому +1

    Glad I found this video! i just got my Quest3s feel day ago!

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  День тому

      Glad you found this video too, Marmalade!

  • @DarrellChat
    @DarrellChat Місяць тому +12

    I know for a fact that I'm not that bad at math, but for the quest 3S. It's $299 and for the quest 3. It's $499 that's a $200 difference. Not a $100 difference. What am i missing here lol

    • @Djangodashhh
      @Djangodashhh Місяць тому +1

      You can get the 128gb quest 3 for 399 at certain places

    • @Djangodashhh
      @Djangodashhh Місяць тому +2

      And the quest 3s is 399 for the larger memory

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Yup that’s spot on 👌

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +4

      I probably didn’t make it clear enough in the video - the $100 difference is if you choose the higher storage version of the Quest 3S. At that point you might as well just get the Q3 if you’re spending that kinda money!

    • @ylorenzo2009
      @ylorenzo2009 Місяць тому +1

      My humble opinion is that the games are improving in their stories and graphics, which it translate to bigger files and more memory is going to be use.... 128g is just to small of a memory..... I would rather spend the extra 100 or 200 and get the 512g with better pixel density. Thank you

  • @No.Name-Y-T
    @No.Name-Y-T Місяць тому +3

    Regarding the IPD, there are in-betweens and you can adjust the lenses easily to those, by just moving them carefully in that in-between position so it’s a bit more adjustable than the numbers suggest. I speak from experience

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Oh really? Never knew that, I’ll have to try it on my Quest 2. Thanks for the tip!

    • @No.Name-Y-T
      @No.Name-Y-T Місяць тому +1

      @@VirtualMoose Yeah I did it all the time, me personally I had my lenses between 1 and 2, so that both numbers were seen with respectively one half.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      @@No.Name-Y-T just tried it on my Quest 2 - it works! Do you find it stays in place while playing though, or does it want to snap back to one of the preset positions?

    • @No.Name-Y-T
      @No.Name-Y-T Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose It always stayed in place for me, except once in an extreme intense Superhot session xD.. I think it was actually my nose that somehow pushed it into another setting 😅..

  • @parkerbrooks
    @parkerbrooks Місяць тому +4

    Exact video I was looking for. Thanks for breaking it down for us, great video

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      No problem, hopefully it was useful! Appreciate the comment 🙏

  • @steffendetrick
    @steffendetrick Місяць тому +4

    There’s a little caveat or * in regards to the resolution. The quest 2 never ran at native resolution because of the chip set. The Quest 3S does run at native resolution because of the more powerful chipset. So it’s still a downgrade from the 3 but an upgrade from the 2 in regards to resolution. And the gap is still $200 if you get the 128gb

    • @matthews4159
      @matthews4159 Місяць тому

      nicely put

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +2

      Great point, thanks for mentioning it. It's like a said in the video, the details on paper aren't the only thing to consider, you've got to look at the whole picture. I think for the same price, the Q3S will be a big step up from the Q2.
      The 128gb Q3S is a great steal, it's when you're looking at the 256gb version that it becomes unclear whether to just pay a bit more for the Q3...

  • @janetwoodville3643
    @janetwoodville3643 Місяць тому +1

    The Quest 3 is worth its price. I love the color pass through and mixed reality. There’s a mixed reality game called first encounter. It’s a lot of fun.

  • @OliverEnding
    @OliverEnding Місяць тому +2

    That thumbnail tho 💯

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Appreciate the thumbnail love 🙏👊

  • @MRNAZIZOMBIE11
    @MRNAZIZOMBIE11 Місяць тому +2

    Worth noting the 128gb regular quest 3 model is discontinued now & been replaced by the 512gb for the same price as the old 128gb model. They only was selling the 128gb for a limited time at $409, just to get rid of the excess stock of the 128gb since it’s no longer being produced anymore

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      I did notice it was out of stock on the website, but wasn’t sure if it was coming back.
      Makes sense that it’s discontinued after seeing the pricing of the Quest 3S. Thanks for letting me know! 👊

  • @jdarg4163
    @jdarg4163 Місяць тому +4

    The only thing the Quest 3s wins at the performance on the headset will be alot smoother because it doesn't have to render the games at a higher resolution and it uses the same chip so performance will be better in games and apps but just with a lower resolution and downgraded lenses but on a performance level it will be better than the Quest 3 as it has less to run with the same chip

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Interesting point, I imagine that's true but I wonder if the increase in performance will be significant enough to be noticeable in practice 🤔 We'll have to wait and see...

    • @mrdrawman3340
      @mrdrawman3340 Місяць тому +1

      This is sadly not true. The Quest 3 and 3s will run at the same resolution. Although the resolution of the displays is different, Quest 3/3s games render at a lower resolution than the displays. The baseline for both is 1680x1760 per eye.

  • @rodneyabrett
    @rodneyabrett Місяць тому +1

    I know a few people that bought used Quest 2 units just to play PCVR at an affordable price point. Especially the older 64GB unit. I'm seeing these on Ebay going for as low as $120 w/controllers which is very cheap. One of my friends isn't really interested in standalone VR or MR, but has a decent gaming rig that he just wants to play PCVR on without spending too much money on an VR HMD.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      That’s another great use case for the cheaper headsets! If you’re not super into VR/MR but like to dip into the occasional PCVR game, you don’t need to spend as much to get the experience.
      Thanks for sharing 😀

  • @rzival
    @rzival Місяць тому +2

    Great comparison! One more week until the 3S ⏲

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks broski! Not long to wait now...are you picking one up?

    • @rzival
      @rzival Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose yep! Honestly just for the channel though. The Quest 3 will still be my main headset

  • @WhatIsAPM
    @WhatIsAPM Місяць тому +1

    If you choose VR for the children, keep in mind minimum IPD - it is 53 mm foq q3 and 58 for q3s. 5mm is alot!

  • @alexander8200
    @alexander8200 Місяць тому +2

    Im getting the 3s because its serviceable and imo better looking. And then I’ll get the quest 4 if they have eye tracking

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Solid plan, and agree I think the 3S is better looking. I’d probably recommend the same for most new VR users - get the cheaper Q3S that can do 90% of the Q3, and if you fall in love with VR you can shell out for the Quest 4 later on. Eye tracking would be a must I reckon.

  • @Elicoptr23
    @Elicoptr23 Місяць тому +2

    nice video bro!

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Thanks a lot bro, appreciate it!

  • @THEBESTmug
    @THEBESTmug Місяць тому +3

    For me a 3s is cheaper and i'm a new meta user + i'm broke. a 3s is a good option for people that cant buy the quest 3

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Quest 3S is a great option if you don’t have the budget for a Quest 3. It’s the same price as the Quest 2 was, with a ton of upgrades. It’s capable of running the same games and experiences as the Quest 3, just with reduced visual quality (but still good).

  • @stevengilley5107
    @stevengilley5107 Місяць тому +2

    Was gona go a quest 3 but im gona do a 3s and hold for deckard. Because I guess after so many year waiting on valve is just part of my personality 🤦‍♂️

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      That’s a solid plan. Man I really hope Valve don’t mess it up, it’s been a long time waiting haha

  • @matgamer6422
    @matgamer6422 Місяць тому +3

    i liked the rings for the quest 2 :(

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      For real? 😅 What did you like about them? For me they always got in the way of things like reloading guns, so happy to see them go haha

    • @stopmotionguy312
      @stopmotionguy312 Місяць тому

      you can still connect them to the quest 3 and 3s i think

  • @SadAmourRoblox
    @SadAmourRoblox Місяць тому +2

    Meta quest 3s is for the people who don’t have that much money to upgrade to meta quest 3 so there upgrading to meta 3s or someone who doesn’t play alot but want to try it out for fun or someone who is poor

  • @jashansidhu9728
    @jashansidhu9728 Місяць тому +2

    I'll go for 3s

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Nice one, I think it’s a great deal honestly. Hope you enjoy it!

  • @scupking
    @scupking Місяць тому +1

    I just ordered a refurbished 128GB Quest 3 for $374. I currently have a Quest 2.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      That’s a good deal, enjoy your new Quest 3 - it’s a big step up from the Quest 2!

  • @SaoGalaxVr
    @SaoGalaxVr Місяць тому +3

    Ipd is not automatic on the quest

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Yes you’re right, I meant you don’t have to manually adjust it - my bad

  • @RomantheREDex
    @RomantheREDex Місяць тому +1

    thank you
    and nice video

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      @@RomantheREDex You’re welcome, appreciate your comment 😄

  • @HandsumVR
    @HandsumVR Місяць тому +2

    I have a quest2 and the lenses and screen are not bad but the preformence and visuals are shit , that's why I want the quest 3s

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Performance is significantly better on the Q3 and I imagine the Q3S, you’ll notice the difference for sure

    • @HandsumVR
      @HandsumVR Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose I need the performance of the 3s so I can record

  • @Kor3Gaming_Ghost
    @Kor3Gaming_Ghost Місяць тому +1

    Don't worry Q3S made for me lol currency's is different in some places so for me its 800 dollers for it which is good. cant wait to get it. Resolutions dont matter as along we have games to play were good

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Agreed, the resolution is good enough, what matters more is smooth performance and lots of options for games/apps. Enjoy your new Q3S!

  • @mA_0049
    @mA_0049 Місяць тому +1

    They said the resolution should be a little bit better than the question 2

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      I imagine it would be, the stats on paper don’t show the full picture in most cases

  • @CoinNix
    @CoinNix Місяць тому +2

    The music is a bit much lol but this is a amazing video

  • @LeroyJenkins781
    @LeroyJenkins781 Місяць тому +2

    How does the psvr2 have such a high fov when it has fresnel lenses every time I go back and use my Quest 2 it feels like I'm looking through two cups I'm holding up to my eyes

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Never tried the PSVR 2 but you’re right about the 2 cups thing on Quest, that’s one thing I’m really hoping they upgrade on the Quest 4. Fresnel lenses affect the focal sweet spot, but not so much the FOV.

    • @LeroyJenkins781
      @LeroyJenkins781 Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose the psvr 2 it always feels like I'm always outside of the sweet spot no matter what and it drives me insane

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      @@LeroyJenkins781 dang that’s gotta be annoying. I thought it had eye tracking to make sure that doesn’t happen?

    • @LeroyJenkins781
      @LeroyJenkins781 Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose it does but the lenses cause it not the screen there's nothing to fix the fact that the lenses are fresnel lenses and I think the fact that the strap is always a little loose is another Factor

  • @MCCIOARA
    @MCCIOARA Місяць тому +2

    can you play pc vr on this new 3S

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      Yes you can, same as on the Q3

    • @MCCIOARA
      @MCCIOARA Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose ty so much

  • @matinusdisseque
    @matinusdisseque Місяць тому +2

    It seems like you can play with your controllers in total darkness with the Quest 3s but not with the 3.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому

      Oh really? Where did you see this?? Would be curious to know 🤔

    • @matinusdisseque
      @matinusdisseque Місяць тому +1

      @@VirtualMoose I will try to find the source but basically, it would be because quest 3s has infrared cameras instead of depth ones

    • @matinusdisseque
      @matinusdisseque Місяць тому +1

      @@VirtualMoose So, it will be better then the 3 in lowlight conditions but I don't know if this will result in you being able to play in the dark. This is to be tested. Here is the name of the new sensors: IR flood illuminators.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      @@matinusdisseque oh yeah I remember reading about those, but wasn’t sure what they did exactly. Would be cool if that’s the case, I’ll have to test it out if I ever get my hands on a Quest 3S!

  • @jdogofoz3642
    @jdogofoz3642 Місяць тому +3

    save everyone 20 min it goes 3 3s 2 😂

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +2

      Would’ve saved me many hours making this video if I just said that instead 😂

    • @matthews4159
      @matthews4159 Місяць тому

      @@VirtualMoose maybe your path lies along and another Road VR maybe it's not for you

  • @janetwoodville3643
    @janetwoodville3643 Місяць тому +2

    The Quest 3 is the best one. Quest 2 is being fizzled out soon. You forgot to mention that.

  • @jdogofoz3642
    @jdogofoz3642 Місяць тому

    this didnt meed to be no more then 5 min msx

  • @janetwoodville3643
    @janetwoodville3643 Місяць тому +2

    The Quest 2 doesn't fit anywhere in with the Quest 3 or the Quest 3S. My Quest 2 bit the dust,so I got the Quest 3. The Quest 3 is so much better. The Quest 2 has no place in this video. The Quest 2 is going to be useless soon just like the first one. If someone wants a really good headset, they should get the Quest 3. It won't be wise to get the Quest 3S.

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      The Quest 3 is certainly better than the Quest 2 and Quest 3S. But the reason I included them both in the video was so people coming from a Quest 2 could see how the other headsets compare before making a decision on their upgrade!

  • @GoofyGoober747
    @GoofyGoober747 Місяць тому +1

    This is the 100th comment

    • @VirtualMoose
      @VirtualMoose  Місяць тому +1

      It’s also my favorite comment, but don’t tell anyone 🤫

  • @Zephyrpenick
    @Zephyrpenick Місяць тому +1

    The quality looks like you found this in 1945

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 Місяць тому

    The quest 3s is for brokeys that can’t afford the quest 3 🤭

  • @matthews4159
    @matthews4159 Місяць тому +2

    This is a very stupid review The 3costs 500 dollars the 3s costs $300
    to Quest 2 is no longer available the quest pro is no longer available
    the choice is now 3s 128 gigabytes the 3s s256 gigabytes and the expensive 3 with 512 gigabytes
    if you've got a lot of money then the 3 is nice thing to have otherwise chooser 3S.

    • @WeirdPerson577
      @WeirdPerson577 Місяць тому +3

      Ever heard of buying secondhand? Also, what about people who have a quest 2 who are looking to upgrade and want to know if the quest 3s is worth the upgrade? How is this review stupid?

    • @DarrellChat
      @DarrellChat Місяць тому +1

      ​@WeirdPerson577 it was a great comparison video but he definitely messed up the math when considering to upgrade from the 2, brand new it's $499 quest 3 and 3s is $299 and in the video he stated that it was only $100 difference between the 2.

    • @SteveODonnell
      @SteveODonnell Місяць тому +1

      While stock lasts you can still get the Quest 3 128gb and as the 3s is either 299 or 399 then the video is correct. 299 for the 128gb 3s or 499 for the 512gb 3. 200 difference. So it will be 200 or 100 difference between the 3s or 3.

    • @matthews4159
      @matthews4159 Місяць тому +1

      @@SteveODonnell somthing else to bear in mind the 128GB machines - how big is android & meta software add on's,, if they were to take up 28 GB,, you would have 100 GB, sounds alot, but big games take up big memory,,,,, just a thaught

    • @SteveODonnell
      @SteveODonnell Місяць тому +1

      @matthews4159 after the price drop i have been tempted by the 128gb. But here in UK it's now £409.99 for the 128gb and £469.99 for the 512gb. So only £60 more for all that extra storage. Would seem silly not to go for the larger capacity now.

  • @michaelbrownlee9497
    @michaelbrownlee9497 Місяць тому +2

    The quest is for children. The games are for children.

  • @killuasbetter3247
    @killuasbetter3247 Місяць тому

    I’ve read it already in the comments, just wanted to give my penny and nickel.
    The audience that the quest 3s is for is the audience who wants to explore VR for the first time. I had that choice once:Quest 2, Index, that big screened one I forgot about, and others I also forgot. I went with the quest 2, because it’s a cheap way to see if I like it. I have a friend who bought himself a quest 2 after trying mine, solely because he loved it but couldn’t afford the quest 3. Even now he’s wanting to upgrade to a quest 3s, entirely because of the $200 difference between the 128GB and 512GB quest 3. “Save more and get the better one” isn’t the right call when most of the people buying the headsets are spending their own money to try a new hobby. At this point, why buy a precision kit when you can go to college and get a degree in engineering all to get a precision kit for free?
    Bah, but I’ve ranted long enough. Sorry to hold the reader here, hope ya enjoy your day.