CONVERTING Punk Fan to Suicidal Tendencies Fan - You Can't Bring Me Down (REACTION)
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Welcome to Dastardly Hamster, where we attempt to convert each other into fans of our favourite bands. Watch as we compete in a dastardly contest to convince the other of the superiority of our musical tastes.
Liam will attempt to convert Mika to:
- Punk
- Pop
- Folk
- Ska
Mika will attempt to convert Liam to:
- Metal
- Alternative Rock
- 60's & 70's
- Classical
... and more!
Got suggestions? Throw them in the comments!
Getting a punk fan to like a classic punk band shouldn't be much of a challenge.
Thing is, the earliest Suicidal is definitely punk, but their sound evolved, even here, to be if not half-metal, than mostly metal.
@@Teraxx23 By the standards of crossover thrash they're definitely more punky than most, even at their most metal.
@@Teraxx23Still
Punk/Metal bands are in Punks menu and Crossover bands are part of the scene.
i love how st siwitches to punk hc to metal to trash to punk again over the years and albuns
My thoughts exactly. Clearly not a punk fan 😢
Besides being criminally underrated and never mentioned, Rocky George was one of the first to use a 7 string.
Facts.
TELL EM WHAT’S UP ROCKY
Yep. It was him and Steve Vai ... and they used them so very differently! 🙂
Justice for Rocky
He crushes it.
If you notice the bass player here is Robert Truillo who joined Metallica in 2003 after Jason Newstead left the band. Robert also was a huge part of ST's side project called "Infectious Grooves" in the 90s. That project was more of a "funk" feel. I saw ST in 1989 in a small club in Syracuse, NY. Still one of my top 2 shows of all time.
Suicidal Tendencies started as a punk rock band, especially their debut album (Songs like 'Institutionalized' ... 'I saw your mommy' ... 'I shot the devil'... 💀) ... Mike Muir (vocals) reformed Suicidal Tendencies and incorporated thrash metal into a subgenre called "crossover" - speed metal fused w/ punk rock... on ST's 2nd album 'Join the army' (1987) when Rocky George (lead guitar) joined the band... "How will I laugh tomorrow" (1988) was a more diverse effort and the 1989 EP 'Controlled by hatred' was another standout record.
ST's next album "Lights camera revolution" in 1990 included Robert Trujillo (bass) and Mike Clark (rhythm guitar) and followed it up w/ 'The art of rebellion' in 1992... This line-up re-recorded their debut album in 1993 as "Still cyco after all these years" ... and their last album was 'Suicidal for life' in 1994 before the band broke up in 1995.
'Cyco Miko' Muir released a solo album "Lost my brain (Once again)" in 1996 - it was re-recorded as a Suicidal Tendencies album in 2018 as "Still cyco punk after all these years"...
Mike Muir reformed Suicidal Tendencies in 1997 to tour again after their former label released a compilation album 'Prime cuts'... but only Mike Clark (rhythm guitar) returned from the last line-up.... Dean Pleasants (lead guitar) joined the band from Muir's other band Infectious Grooves... The band returned to their punk rock roots w/ the albums 'Freedumb' (1999) and 'Free your soul and save my mind' (2000)... but fans were not happy w/ those records.... ST toured often but did not release any new music before Mike Clark left the band.
Suicidal Tendencies finally released the album '13' in 2013 and was a return to their 'crossover' sound... Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo joined for a while and recorded the album 'World gone mad' in 2016... They also released another EP in 2018 - 'Get your fight on!'
Currently, Suicidal Tendencies is touring w/ Mike Muir (vocals) & Dean Pleasants (lead guitar)... and former Slipknot drummer Jay Weinberg... former Dillinger Escape Plan rhythm guitarist Ben Weinman... and Tye Trujillo (bass), the son of former ST bassist Robert Trujillo (who is currently in Metallica)
Didn't know Rob's son was in the band. Cool. Last I heard Rocky was in Cro-Mags. Love Cro-Mags but miss Rocky in Suicidal.
I saw Fishbone a few years ago with Rocky on guitar, kicked ass
Rocky George joined Suicidal Tendencies in 1984.
💯
@@mattjohn4731 Right, I knew he had been in Fishbone. Wonder why he's never returned to ST? Oh well.
Rocky George kills this track. I've always liked that his solos took the time signature as a suggestion.
Tell 'em what's up, Rocky!
How is a punk fan not already a Suicidal fan?
I am asking myself that same question... ~Liam
Love Suicidal Tendencies. Lights Camera Revolution is a great album. You Can't Bring Me Down is an all time classic and my favorite Suicidal Tendencies song. Rocky George guitar solo shreds. 🎸🤘
My Fav ST album. Alone, How can I laugh tomorrow, Discos out murders , this song, the whole album is awesome!!
Amen. That album is the best.
There is nothing like seeing ST live. Singer Mike Muir brings so much energy, I've seen them several times over the years and never a bad show.
For me, of all the bands I saw live this was the best concert I've ever been to.
He babbles way too much between songs lol. They could play at least three more songs if he'd keep his intros to a minimum
My Fav ST album. Alone, How can I laugh tomorrow, Discos out murders , this song, the whole album is awesome!!
This whole album is/was a game changer and is very good from beginning to end. Rocky George MIGHT BE the most underrated guitar player I can think of in the history of music. Henry Rollins played a lot of scary gigs during his time in Black Flag, but the most scared he ever said he was at a gig was at a Suicidal Tendencies show he played as a young guy. Suicidal was not only more established than Black Flag in LA at the time, but they had won over local street gangs so the whole backyard show was filled with gun-toting 80s gangsters and fights. More established in LA than Black Flag and playing shows that scared Henry Rollins. People dont know what Suicidal Tendencies brought to the table decade after decade.
ST and Anthrax were my goto bands in the mid to late 80's.
My first concert was Suicidal Tendencies in Belfast, 1989 when I was 15.
I love this band! Not enough people react to them! My favorite line in a song ever- you wouldn’t know what crazy was if Charles manson was eating fruiting loops on your front porch!
I saw Suicidal Tendencies open for Metallica in '94, back when Robert Trujillo was bassist for Suicidal Tendencies, & before being bassist for Metallica. And after Robert was Infectious Grooves' bassist.
Same here. Candlebox was part of that tour as well, at least in Cali where I saw them in Sacramento.
@@rww71 I saw that concert in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and Candelbox had just dropped out. A girl sold me her ticket cuz she only wanted to see Candelbox.
@@Billy-zv6gv fans gave Candlebox a hard time that day. Booing, throwing shit - their singer Kevin stopped after their first song and said they had 40 minutes or whatever it was and they were using all of it so either waste your time mad or enjoy some rock and roll and then they tore it up. Suicidal kicked ass after and then Metallica of course is Metallica. Good memory, I’m glad you mentioned that tour!
@@rww71 I hear ya! In 'Burque, a "fan" threw a lit road flare on stage and hit James Hetfield in the leg, so he was pissed! But real fans beat the hell out of that dude, so it got good again.
I give y'all 10 Hamsters!!!!! I love this reaction ❤
Thank you so much, I give your reply 10 hamstars! We are just getting started, so subscribe if you would like to see more! ~Liam
I'm very glad I came across this channel! Music is about unity and the crossover genre is MEANT for the both of you to enjoy. Cheers!
Mika...love your analysis of the distinction between punk and metal...spot on
Thank you for saying so! There are so many great elements to both that need to be appreciated for own sakes... but there's nothing that gets me quite like metal. ~Mika
Real punk fans should already know suicidal tendencies from their 83 debut album which is considered one of the best hardcore punk albums of all time. You are listening to their metal phase, which by now all the punks pretty much disavowed them and they got a whole new fan base
During this era Suicidal sounded more akin to thrash really. This is my favorite era, this album and The Art of Rebellion kicked ass. Rocky George was an awesome lead guitarists. Trujillo is one of my favorite bass players. Classic shit man.
Sorry, but Rocky George sounds absolutely nothing like Dimebag!! Both are elite metal guitarists, but sound nothing alike!!
Ya rocky is better for sure ,
Suicidal tendencies came out before Pantera did you ever Suicidal on Miami vice ,as far is I am concerned alot of great musicians came out of 80s that style like nirvana and so forth just to boring unlike Suicidal tendencies, megadeth, Metallica and so forth,got to love that apology, that my kind
He is just trying to get his point across, play trip to the brain,if you remember they were not able to play at alot of places due to violence at their shows, also you need to play something off how will I laugh tomorrow when I can't even smile today it their best album
I too heard pantera, but that's because I didn't know this song till now
Pantera started as a glam band in the 80s
You've never heard of Suicidal Tendencies? Buddy, you need to listen to more music.
It’s still really weird to me how no one seems to know that Suicidal Tendencies, and a huge portion of their rabid fanbase, came out of an LA. street gang. There was the Suicidals, the LADS (Los Angeles Death Squad… pure white boy gang), and a few others who weren’t “gangtsa rap” bullshit. People like us… street kids who’ve seen utter hell.
ST came out at the same time as Motley and Metallica and weren't received as well as them along with Savatage. ST and Savatage both have criminally underrated guitarists in Rocky and Cris Oliva!
I saw suicidal tendencies before they were banned in LA. Great old school punk/metal crossover one of the first to do it along with D.R.I.
Agent Orange- Bloodstains, Circle Jerks- wild in the streets, The Vandals- And now we dance, Bad Brains- I against I, The Meatmen- pissed hot for weed & Anna Moose. Some older punk rock that you should should check out if you haven’t heard already.
This song makes my face scrunch up and my head rattle... can't prevent it..... EMBRACE !
New sub y'all this channel looks really fun cant wait to see you grow keep it coming
Thanks so much!! ~Mika
To this day, they open almost every show with this song. Suicidal 4 life!
The self titled Suicidal Tendencies album should really be a must listen. One of the classic California hardcore albums and it sounds as fresh today as it did back in the early 80's
GOTTA REACT TO THE BAND HELMET,SONG,IN THE MEANTIME 🤘
I agree. Helmet, the Melvins, the Butthole Surfers, Ministry and on and on.
Lights...Camera...Revolution! Their best album
Apparently Jay Weinberg just joined them.
This was a great react. We'll done mates
I liked that by this point the camera knows who's playing those leads. Last one, 'War Inside...', cameras/director didn't twig 'til near the end.
Nice discovery for passing an evening.
This song is very specifically an anti-censorship song, a direct response to the Parents Music Resource Center and the attempts to regulate what music could be published through legislation. Fourth track on the same album, Lovely, is also a direct response and specifically name drops Tipper Gore, one of the founders of the PMRC.
ST members formed a second band at one point called "Infectionus Grooves" it was more of a funk type sound, more silly. it's been a LOOOONG time for me, so I can't recall any songs to suggest, but it was an interesting angle for them. used to have a couple of disks, but now I'm down to "The Plague That Makes Your Booty Move" which, if I recall correctly was their first album under this name.
Good reaction and breakdown of the song.
Liam - getting into the world of metal, you are going to have to put aside your desire for songs to be short. Most punk songs are about half as long as most metal songs from my experience (and let's not even touch on songs from Symphonic of Power Metal which can be way longer).
Ouch, those censor beeps really Bring Me Down, lol. Was that you or was the video censored?
Hi,
the beeps are in the official song but if you check in YT you can find a version without this censor beeps. I think you already discover the words that are censored but without the beeps the song sounds better.;)
Saw em in RVA....opened 4 queensryche
I’ve seen Suicidal twice and they are legit. They’re guitarist shreds your face off and the riffs & vocals are pure punk/thrash metal. Also Opera singers know how to keep your voice healthy so it’s the best advice you can get. BTW Hamsters are evil flesh eating creatures that are not meant to be pets. I think your hamster rating system is strange. But thanks for the reaction.
such a great song, i ahev been a suicidal fan since i was a teen in the mid to late 80s.. still enjoy them
"What's with the censors?" No shit! I guess I knew there was a radio cut? Having heard this on the radio before. The radio didn't use actual beep sounds, I'm sure. That'd have jumped off the page at me. They probably just blanked the curses. In any case, I listened to this off the album/CD about 100x more than I heard it on the radio so in my head it's just entirely uncensored. What I don't understand, is why someone uploaded a radio version to YT. You can curse on the internet.
ST = Punk + Metal. Have you heard their first album? All punk....
What sort of a Punk fan doesn't know ST.. They're west coast punk metal legends...
How is it that Waking the dead never gets the attention that it deserves? It is one the my favorite ST songs.
Crazy that Thundercat was part of Suicidal Tendencies in their 2002 incarnation
Suicidal was originally "Skater Punk". "Join The Army" was their first album release. Their foray into metal came later with this album.
The self titled was their first album release. Join the Army is their second album
Go back and do your research lol
saw them a few yrs ago w/ BEN WEINMAN (dillinger escape plan) & DAVE LOMBARDO-now they have JAY WEINBERG on drums still going hard!
I forgot how good this song is!!🤘🏾🤘🏾
The entire catalog is timeless 🤟🏻🍺
I've always appreciated the diversity of ST. Plus they they rock.
He should love this...One of their best...
Suicidal Tendencies was classified as skate punk at their begginning.
For me they were and they still are a Cyco punk band because their style is very unique.
Just a last word about your reactions. I discover you with Cemetery gates from Pantera and as a big fan of suicidal tendencies I was very happy to see a new reaction to one of their song but please..... don't stop a song in the middle of a guitar solo. You did it on cemeteray gates and you did it here. Thanks.
I love your opinions.
Now you gotta show the ice T. / body count, institutionalized cover.
its a seven string Ibanez. Beautiful guitar.
I have nothimg to say. I could say something, but then I would be the bad guy. See what I did there? All the cusswords are in your head! Frickin brilliant!
this is crossover, much more metal than punk in the mix. it was a great time to be alive!
Okay, I subscribed but if you don't do Alone from suicidal tendencies I will continue to watch until you do.
You definitely have to try D.R.I. It´s one of the most representatives bands of this genre.
It's unfortunate that she chose the clean version with the bleeped out words lol.
Right, how do you censor a Suicidal Tendencies song about censorship?
Rocky absolutely shreds on this album
The first album is brilliant all the way through
I always thought of them as skater thrash punk. Hardly hear the word thrash anymore. Good reactions. :)
They only had "punk" on the first album. They were skate thrash from the second album on.
@@hitmixhyepock9405 Ah. Thanks. That must be why I remembered them that way.
I might get some crap for this but I hate it when someone calls "The Clash" a Punk band.
100! I'm 50, and I have never understood, or agreed with that!!
This is not purely punk. It's crossover. Its basically hardcore punk that got more thrashy.
11:28 - 11:57. AMEN SISTER!
Hahaha ikr??? ~Mika
That is the guitar doing volume swells in the beginning and dimebag was a huge fan of rocky George I think they knew each other
I don't know either Rocky's or Dimebag's (claimed) influences, but the glam era Pantera I've heard has a very obvious Eddie Van Halen style in the lead playing.
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if EVH was a direct influence for both.
@pauln6803 most definitely dime was buried with Eddie's bumble bee black and yellow stripped guitar on van Halen 2 Eddie said an original deserves an original
Rocky Gorge is a bad ass lead guitarist.
Suicidal Tendencies were a punk band when they first started.
Not trying to "gatekeep," but, Liam needs to prove his "street cred" to be called a punk fan. Really eyeliner, Liam?
Welcome aboard ST ARMY
They’re a Hardcore Punk band that crossed over into Thrash. This song is Thrash Metal.
Is real punk out there and not commercial punk. St will always be ahead.
Is DRI next, or are you already familiar?
1st album introduced me to punk in the mid 80s. They kinda turned metal after.
For good Suicidal punk try Possessed For good Suicidal metal try Emotion #13.
The lead guitar player rocky joined the cro-mags at some point after suicidal
Hey stick your toe in Infectious Grooves a funk/punk/metal/lounge band which is a shootoff of Suicidal among others. Should be fun
That's a 6 string Ibanez rg 550
See the Album "the art of rebellion " 🔥🔥 from end to end 🔥🔥
Bass player became the current bass player of metallica you have to listen when slayer drummer took over drums
Now show him monopoly on sorrow 👍😎🤘
And yes ... That Bassist now plays with Metallica.
All I wanted was a Pepsi.
I like their songs I Need More and Suicidal Failure
I want more
They were competitors s.t and pantera
They were banned in LA
Suicidal, in my opinion straddles metal, punk, thrash. I know metal fans that love suicidal, will refuse is punk. But it's all inclusive.
You definitely have to show him DR LIVINGDEAD- TEAMxDEADx and Civilized to Death! 🤘
This came b4 Pantera
That was not a 7 string guitar.
Go Skate, the redo one
1990 light camera Revolution Sucidal Tendencies
trip to the brain is another song you need to chech
the Metallica influence is there
321 action
yo gotta realize suicidal came before pantera
DRI please.
you two are such cute music nerds.. are you long distant love interests? Because maybe you should be.. ;)
*LongEVity
To call yourself a punk fan and NOT know who Suicidal Tendencies are is ridiculous. One of the most influential bands of the genre, they are the bridge that led from Bay Area skate punk into Hardcore, they are the ones who upped the ante and as is the punk way, took things too far, for those times at least.
I have been a fan of punk since Malcolm McLaren and Vivienne Westwood created it in 75/6 and launched the inimitable Sex Pistols into the world. THEY were the first band to ever be labelled as "Punk" by a Daily Mirror front page headline in 76. Also The Ramones are NOT A PUNK BAND, NEVER WERE!!!! Joey Ramone ALWAYS said they were a Rock n Roll band who played fast. Also, they formed way before 76, BEFORE THE TERM PUNK EVER EXISTED.
Here endeth the lesson from an old punk ORIGINAL.