J.S. Bach - Cantata BWV 12 "Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen" (J.S. Bach Foundation)

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    From the protestant church Teufen in Switzerland
    Choir and Orchestra of the J. S. Bach Foundation
    Rudolf Lutz - conductor & harpsichord
    Soloists
    Margot Oitzinger - alto
    Bernhard Berchtold - tenor
    Wolf Matthias Friedrich - bass
    Johann Sebastian Bach - Cantata BWV 12 "Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen" (Weeping, lamenting, worrying, fearing)
    00:00 Concert on 19.04.2013
    00:30 Sinfonia
    03:05 Chorus: Weinen, Klagen
    10:13 Recitative (alto): Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal
    11:00 Aria (alto): Kreuz und Kronen sind verbunden
    17:06 Aria (bass): Ich folge Christo nach
    19.22 Aria (tenor): Sei getreu, alle Pein
    23:48 Chorale: Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @davidswan3071
    @davidswan3071 2 роки тому +17

    What an accomplished oboist. Such sublime beauty.

    • @ricklarsen852
      @ricklarsen852 Рік тому +3

      Same with the trumpet player. Beautiful control and musicianship.

  • @JohannSebastianBach2138
    @JohannSebastianBach2138 12 днів тому +1

    Weimar, den 22. April 1714, die Uraufführung, ich beschloß, sie in Leipzig zu wiederholen, dagegen war und ist sie eine der schönsten Kantaten, die je unter meiner Feder gewandert sind. Wunderbar Herr Lutz.

  • @klausfleck6855
    @klausfleck6855 3 роки тому +14

    Herr Lutz macht Bach lebendig. Bach wäre stolz auf ihn!

  • @Chunkfterbi7183
    @Chunkfterbi7183 4 роки тому +37

    Uncompromising and homogeneous precision of choir in dynamics (Angst und Not, Angst und Not), text work, listening and ornamentation (not only, but prominently Soprano). Miraculously subtle and blossoming crescendi and resolving decrescendi and transfer from one voice to the next ( in what I’m tempted to call Crucifixus). Great soloist work of all three of them (the mild, floating blend of trumpet and tenor). And then the string section is just a dream , such transparency and such a groove (bass aria), and again a stunning listening capacity. This performance is all about breathing music arising from perfect mastery of all aspects, carefully elaborated and performed with max attention. And not to forget: the visual recording is perfectly directed, the camera perspectives revealing how much the musicians in the orchestra but also in choir look at each other as well as to the conductor who in reverse sculptures the performance most subtly. Lutz keeps upping the the ante. Bravi, bravi!

  • @thelilia54
    @thelilia54 4 роки тому +17

    Zum Weinen schön! Herrliche Musik von grösster artistischer Qualität: Danke!

  • @bernd-hartmutbeuter5584
    @bernd-hartmutbeuter5584 3 роки тому +16

    Wunderschön! Vielen Dank an die J.S. Bachstiftung, dass sie diese unvergleichlich schöne Musik am Leben erhält.

  • @arthursoghoyan3471
    @arthursoghoyan3471 4 роки тому +23

    AMAZING PERFORMANCE !!!!
    GOD BLESS YOU ALL !!!
    Perhaps the best performance of Aria : Sei getreu, alle Pein.
    Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.

  • @francoisbloch7772
    @francoisbloch7772 3 роки тому +8

    Comme toujours Margot Oitzinger très professionnelle, émouvante, puissante, délicate.

  • @michaelpinker7618
    @michaelpinker7618 Рік тому +5

    Bernhard Berchthold's voice in the tenor aria is so sweet, so true, I could listen to this aria for hours on end....

    • @pianodoir
      @pianodoir 6 місяців тому

      Sei getreu, alle Pein 19:22

  • @StrammerBursche
    @StrammerBursche 4 роки тому +8

    Es hat mich zu Tränen gerührt vielen Dank!

  • @joshsussman9432
    @joshsussman9432 3 роки тому +6

    Another spark of genius from the Bach workbench.

  • @peterwatchorn411
    @peterwatchorn411 4 роки тому +15

    One of the most extraordinary in a series that is in itself extraordinary. Exquisite.

  • @luizalbuquerque5099
    @luizalbuquerque5099 4 роки тому +8

    One of the best performances of the serie. My new favorite for this particular Cantata. The aria Kreuze und Krone sind verbunden gains a new dimension.

  • @larrybrandes304
    @larrybrandes304 4 роки тому +27

    Wonderful, exquisite. My favorite part starts at 29 seconds and ends at 24:33. I listened four times in a row and it is still my favorite part.

    • @ewestner
      @ewestner 3 роки тому +2

      My favorite part too!

    • @ef416
      @ef416 Рік тому +1

      😆

  • @stufarnham
    @stufarnham 4 роки тому +13

    Lovely performance throughout. Kudos to the oboist in the sinfonia, the trumpeter in the tenor aria, and to the soloists. This rendering captured the grace, the sorrow,and the hope of the text magnificently. Wonderful job by all. Thank you.

  • @deekobald9260
    @deekobald9260 4 роки тому +18

    Wow the tenor was amazing! Thanks for the upload!

  • @timotheuspeter734
    @timotheuspeter734 3 роки тому +16

    Very great! I often think that Bach would be astounded by the quality of performances & recordings like this..

    • @PM.68
      @PM.68 3 роки тому +6

      Oh he definitely would! He wasn´t afraid of change and progress.

  • @johannesbrahmsfan9228
    @johannesbrahmsfan9228 2 роки тому +8

    This must be the best version of this cantata available to listen to! Choir, soloists, musicians and director Lutz; all are at top notch here. Thanks to God!

    • @leonardoiglesias2394
      @leonardoiglesias2394 2 роки тому

      You mean it is better than Suzukis? In what sense?

    • @aliasreco
      @aliasreco 2 роки тому +1

      @@leonardoiglesias2394 Thanks to Suzuki - I can listen to all of them. But the echo I like less. Suzuki makes it emotional. But Lutz too. Different but sometimes personally I prefer one above the other. (And I sang in a choir like this - so it reminds me of my young days...)

  • @user-pk8dk5wq7p
    @user-pk8dk5wq7p 9 місяців тому +5

    Je trouve la musique de cette Cantate écrite d'une manière trop complexe , en comparaison d'oeuvres postérieures, plus faciles à écouter et non moins belles. De toute façon cette musique , splendidement interprétée, mérite amplement d'être jouée et partagée. Grand merci à la Bach Foundation pour toutes ces oeuvres partagées gratuitement sur UA-cam !

    • @variflex9991
      @variflex9991 Місяць тому

      C'est pas trop complexe, tout le contraire, simple et esentielle.

  • @p.maillard1544
    @p.maillard1544 4 роки тому +4

    Interprétation très chrétienne des cantates de bach , un grand merci .

  • @Yusuf-the-wanderer
    @Yusuf-the-wanderer Рік тому +1

    A piece of art. Feeds my soul. Rest in peace Mr. Bach.

  • @marcbaumann-organiste9514
    @marcbaumann-organiste9514 3 роки тому +2

    Remarquable, constant, inspiré, tout est fait ici pour servir JS BACH. Quel bonheur! Superbe.

  • @user-sm9ik8yh7g
    @user-sm9ik8yh7g Рік тому +1

    Это невообразимо небесная, неземная музыка, Бах - точно её подслушал у Бога! Такая скорбная и красивая музыка!!!✝️🏛️🎹🎻👏

  • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
    @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +8

    A lovely equilibrium between singers and instruments. The chors are just perfect. An impressive and serioues rendering of this work of art

  • @carolynclark1724
    @carolynclark1724 3 роки тому +4

    Beautiful performance! Really enjoyed the tenor aria with the trumpet.

  • @katringiordanengo7665
    @katringiordanengo7665 Рік тому +1

    Tiefgreifende Musik! Tiefgreifend musiziert! Herzlichen Dank!

  • @mauropalerma4977
    @mauropalerma4977 Рік тому

    Grazie infinite, momento estatico di alta qualità . Siete fantastici.

  • @carlospita8935
    @carlospita8935 2 роки тому +1

    ein brillanter Mann setzte sein Talent ein, um den heiligen Namen Gottes zu verherrlichen.

  • @mrroneill99
    @mrroneill99 4 роки тому +3

    Very special! Bravo Bach! Thanks for uploading. ❤️👼🎼🎵🎶👏☘️🇮🇪

  • @zigosepalum5641
    @zigosepalum5641 4 роки тому +1

    Le choeur d'entrée nous plonge d'emblée dans l'univers fascinant de cette cantate, très belle interprétation.

  • @johngustafson2605
    @johngustafson2605 7 днів тому

    Gorgeous oboe playing !!

  • @vaniapedronetto4894
    @vaniapedronetto4894 3 роки тому +2

    Che bella esecuzione! Margot, sei sempre più brava!!!

  • @valtergilenardi2639
    @valtergilenardi2639 Рік тому +3

    Quando ascolto Bach entro in contatto con la parte migliore del mio Cuore...Bach è Divino Saluti da Lecce 👋 😎🤗🌌🙏❤

    • @bernhildhohmuth5189
      @bernhildhohmuth5189 Рік тому

      Bach verkündet mit seiner. wunderbaren Musik das Evangelium und ist darum der 5. Evangelist

    • @bernhildhohmuth5189
      @bernhildhohmuth5189 Рік тому

      und ganz lieben Dank an alle künstler der Bachstiftung und Herrn Rudolf Lutz.

  • @govertteijgeler9244
    @govertteijgeler9244 4 роки тому +3

    Wat een voorrecht om deze Bach Cantates te kunnen volgen via het internet.
    Ook deze top-uitvoering heeft mij weer tot tranen toe bewogen. Schitterende dynamiek en fantastische inleving in de tekst, gecombineerd met een loepzuiver orkest, waarin de Spielfreude in de beelden mede een geweldige rol spelen. Hartelijk dank !!!!!

    • @rjwusher
      @rjwusher 3 роки тому +1

      Hier sluit ik mij van harte bij aan! Grote dank aan de Bachstiftung voor deze wonderschone uitvoeringen.

  • @soundscript33
    @soundscript33 4 роки тому +3

    Magically! Thanks for this music!

  • @manuelagiasi4306
    @manuelagiasi4306 2 роки тому

    Che bellezza, che bravura. Una meraviglia. Grazie.

  • @fritsvanderblom8881
    @fritsvanderblom8881 Рік тому

    Briljant! A masterpiece on it's best! Thanks 💕

  • @steveistheman84
    @steveistheman84 3 роки тому +2

    thank you Bachstiftung! lutz and herreweghe are the two best bach conductors. the slower tempo makes it way more brutal. heaviest music out there!

  • @albrechtkling4213
    @albrechtkling4213 3 роки тому +3

    17:06. aria basso Ich folge Christo nach
    19:22. choralbearbeitung tenore Sei getreu - Jesu meine Freude TROMPETE
    23:48. choral Was Gott tut das ist wohlgetan TROMPETE

  • @yuichibencoolenhrs5527
    @yuichibencoolenhrs5527 4 роки тому +2

    (Comment from Japan, Kamakura) It is beautiful. Soprano voices are clearly recorded than other ones. I love this video. Thank you for sharing the beautiful piece.

  • @freegracetruthembrace7188
    @freegracetruthembrace7188 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you Jesus .
    Your glory alone is magnified .
    Your certain Guarantee of unending life (John 3:16) is the unmerited gift that delights unto the uttermost .
    It is in this spirit that this transcendent music resonates .

  • @michaeldiakakis4581
    @michaeldiakakis4581 4 роки тому +2

    OUTSTANDING!

  • @ollehedstrom3536
    @ollehedstrom3536 4 роки тому +3

    Wonderful cantata!

  • @ronwalker4849
    @ronwalker4849 4 роки тому +3

    Nº.2 is a musical interpration of weeping and crying. There is always lots of that in all Christian art work through the centuries.
    Rachael dry your tears.

  • @thevoiceofhumanitynetwork72
    @thevoiceofhumanitynetwork72 4 роки тому +2

    the sixth section is one of the pinnacles of human music.

  • @dieterpeszat2105
    @dieterpeszat2105 4 роки тому

    Neben Komposition und Aufführung begeistern mich immer wieder die guten zusammengestellten Videoaufnahmen.

  • @josemariacuedejuana813
    @josemariacuedejuana813 4 роки тому +2

    Extraordinary!

  • @carlostellogonzales1174
    @carlostellogonzales1174 7 місяців тому

    me quede sin manos de tanto aplaudir

  • @cristinabergamini6475
    @cristinabergamini6475 3 роки тому

    tutto perfetto musicisti solisti coro magistrali un momento di estasi mille grazie

  • @legato6999
    @legato6999 4 роки тому +8

    The beginning sounds like "Crucifixus" from the Mass in B minor. Still lovely.

    • @ronwalker4849
      @ronwalker4849 4 роки тому +4

      The beginning sounds only like tears flowing down ones´s face in it´s own inimitable way.

    • @joaobarbosa6262
      @joaobarbosa6262 4 роки тому +7

      Dear Mr. Legato:
      No wonder, Mr. Legato. The Crucifixus is an arrangement of this same choir. By the way, many movements of the Mass are arrangements, in which Bach always changes some things, always for the better.
      As to Mr Parker, I don't know about his inimitable tears; what I know is that he doesn't know the mass as well as you, Mr. Legato. Congratulations.

    • @timotheuspeter734
      @timotheuspeter734 3 роки тому

      @@joaobarbosa6262 good comment! I think, however, it is possible to both know of Bach‘s self-parody and cry to his music.

  • @a.luisf.prieto4880
    @a.luisf.prieto4880 3 роки тому +3

    Sensacional Cantata del más Grande. La Sinfonía de la introducción y el Aria final antes del coro te pone los pelos de punta. Maravilla.

  • @jameshaney171
    @jameshaney171 4 роки тому +1

    I am waiting for the action to begin, the oboe wind solo is calming but not the way to open, as it calms too much. The Chorus is where the magic happens, I am feeling heaven. I am feeling peace, I can fold my hands and rest.

  • @Bakho.N
    @Bakho.N 4 роки тому

    Bravo à toutes et tous

  • @flemmingranch8777
    @flemmingranch8777 3 роки тому

    Rigtig dejlig og melodisk musik og flot korsang.....

  • @Violinlesson-Venice
    @Violinlesson-Venice 2 роки тому

    Bravissimi!

  • @josehenriquez7610
    @josehenriquez7610 4 роки тому

    Sin palabras....

  • @mariod7473
    @mariod7473 4 роки тому +4

    absolutely airy and lovely, I also appreciate a woman alto as opposed to a man.Bravo maestro et all.

  • @MarkusSaurer
    @MarkusSaurer Рік тому

    Grandios!

  • @tomasmarz6713
    @tomasmarz6713 4 роки тому

    Das war einfach herrlich! Danke 🙂

  • @manualonso7
    @manualonso7 2 роки тому

    How beautiful is that 18:18- 19:00

  • @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
    @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 6 місяців тому

    3:06 - This chorus is another version of the Crucifixus chorus from the Mass in B minor. I knew I had heard this before!

  • @francescacompagnone2903
    @francescacompagnone2903 4 роки тому +2

    Note musicali come lacrime che rigano le guance

  • @pascalpatrick3009
    @pascalpatrick3009 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for hearing a woman as alto and not a man😀

  • @johanneskolbneuhaus3664
    @johanneskolbneuhaus3664 3 роки тому

    welch ein schoener Klang wuerde ich sagen und hoere ebenfalls den in der h moll Messe auf lateinisch gesungenen zweiten Satz, vielen Dank !

  • @uabpsab
    @uabpsab 4 роки тому +9

    As usual, fantastic! Where does he find all these musicians and singers? Schola Cantorum? Sad to see so few young people in the audience tho.

    • @ricklarsen852
      @ricklarsen852 Рік тому +1

      The younger people here seem to only to be members of the Bachstiftung. All I could see in the audience unfortunately was a lot of gray hair. Today's young people are really missing out on these quality performances

    • @electricalychalanged4911
      @electricalychalanged4911 Рік тому

      There are not many young people in the church anymore and to appreciate this music you need to learn it. Not many people do anymore. So no wonder. But this is the type of shut up an listen music that is not revant for you people anyway.

  • @michellemalaise1816
    @michellemalaise1816 4 роки тому

    Très beau ensemble et harmonie des choeurs... Pour une fois les sopranes n écrasent pas les autres voix

  • @GaborDrSeres
    @GaborDrSeres 2 роки тому

    Ebéd utáni csendes emésztéshez jót tesz Bach...

  • @sunayaras5360
    @sunayaras5360 3 роки тому

    👼😇👼

  • @davidlai1996
    @davidlai1996 Рік тому

    Beautiful performance!!! However, there's one thing I don't understand. The cantata is performed a whole tone too high. The opening 2 movements are in F minor, but this recording played it in G minor. I wonder why this change / difference? Thanks for your explanation!

  • @karstensturm4198
    @karstensturm4198 2 роки тому

    Jost Ammon: Es ist eine sehr sanfte Darbietung. Das kann ich auf englisch nicht so gut schreiben. In der Langsamkeit liegt die Hingabe, die Bach ausdrücken wollte.

  • @franciscoespinozagamboa6490
    @franciscoespinozagamboa6490 4 роки тому +1

    ¿Por que no se menciona como solista a la brillante y destacada oboísta ?

  • @woodmanpierre9742
    @woodmanpierre9742 2 роки тому

    6:58 DE FINOM !

  • @sasjavanginkel8281
    @sasjavanginkel8281 4 роки тому +1

    Who plays the oboe?

    • @Bachstiftung
      @Bachstiftung  4 роки тому

      Sasja Van Ginkel Hello, it is Katharina Arfken. You can always find all the information on bachipedia.org. Best regards

    • @sasjavanginkel8281
      @sasjavanginkel8281 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your reaction! I think she's very good! I looked at the Bach Stiftung site, but could't find it....

    • @sasjavanginkel8281
      @sasjavanginkel8281 4 роки тому

      On the site bachipedia.org no names from the members of the orchestra unfortunately...

    • @Bachstiftung
      @Bachstiftung  4 роки тому

      @@sasjavanginkel8281 That's not quite correct. We listed them all. Please check this link: www.bachipedia.org/en/works/bwv-12-weinen-klagen-sorgen-zagen/. Best regards

    • @sasjavanginkel8281
      @sasjavanginkel8281 4 роки тому

      Finally found! Thank you very much!!!

  • @hongkyulee8775
    @hongkyulee8775 Рік тому

    칸타타 12 흐느낌, 슬픔, 걱정, 두려움 (Korean translation)
    Jubilate (부활절 후 세 번째 일요일)
    잘로몬 프랑크의 시(1)
    바이마르에서 1714년 4월 22일,
    라이프찌히에서 1724년 4월 30일 연주
    3. 사도행전 14장 22절
    6. Johann Cruger's chorale melody for "Jesu, meine
    Freude" by Johann Franck, 1650
    7. Samuel Rodigast, final verse of "Was Gott tut, das ist
    wohlgetan," 1674
    1. Sinfonia
    2. Chorus (S, A, T, B)
    흐느낌, 슬픔 걱정, 두려움,
    열망과 억압은
    그리스도인들의 눈물의 빵들입니다.
    주님의 형상을 가진 그리스도인들의...
    3. Recit. [Dictum] (A)
    많은 슬픔들을 통해 우리는
    하나님의 왕국에 들어가야 합니다.
    4. Aria (A)
    십자가와 면류관이 함께 있습니다.
    갈등과 보석이 결합되었습니다.
    그리스도인은 항상 가지고 있습니다.
    그들의 고통과 적들을...
    그러나 그리스도의 상처가 그들의 위안이 됩니다.
    5. Aria (B)
    저는 그리스도를 따르렵니다.
    저는 그분을 놓지 않을 겁니다.
    좋을 때나 힘들 때나
    삶에서나 죽음에서나.....
    저는 그리스도의 모욕에 입맞춥니다.
    저는 그의 십자가를 안을 것입니다.
    저는 그리스도를 따르렵니다.
    저는 그분을 놓지 않을 겁니다.
    6. Aria (T) with instr. chorale
    믿음을 가지세요 !
    모든 고통은 사소한 것이 될 겁니다.
    비 온 뒤에
    축복이 꽃 핍니다.
    그리고 모든 폭풍은 지나갑니다.
    믿음을 가지세요 ! 믿음을 가지세요 !
    7. Chorale (S, A, T, B)
    하나님이 하시는 것은 잘되는 일입니다.
    저는 (동일하게) 남아있을 것입니다.
    비록 저를 험한 길
    궁핍, 죽음 그리고 불행으로 몰아가시더라도...
    하나님이 저를
    완전히 아버지 같이
    그의 팔 안에 붙드시기에...
    그러므로 저는 그의 통치를 허락합니다.
    1. 알프레드 뒤어의 책 263페이지를 보면 프랑크의 시라는 증거가
    더 자세히 있다.
    2. 이 악장의 개선적인 변형은 탄식의 소리인 ai라는 소리의 반복에
    크게 의존하고 있다.

  • @edgeplay4205
    @edgeplay4205 4 роки тому +1

    I disagree about the "homogeneous precision of choir in dynamics ". The men were great but the women's pp was in fact mp and presented a flat dynamic range compared to the men. This is some of Bach's greatest Michelangelo music. This is the music you play when you are showing images of the Sistine Chapel Ceiling. I am sure JS never heard it performed as well as this, but this would sound utterly different under Stokowski.
    In the 1 Symphonia lack of cohesion in the violins also prevented us from realizing the true awesomeness of this movement.
    Rudi and the Foundation have committed 25 years of their lives to this project. 15 years into it we can say this is the best there is. But we also come to realize that there is a whole new level at which this music can be performed that will make this look stilted and jaded. Is Rudi going to reach for that prize ?

    • @philipk4475
      @philipk4475 4 роки тому +1

      We can be grateful to have such music in our time. No doubt there will be future generations which will take what has been presented here and go further, that is the nature of things.

  • @marcogiusti1358
    @marcogiusti1358 4 роки тому +2

    Una altra cantata "sbilanciata" con la prima parte straordinaria Sinfonia e Coro sono favolosi, non allo stesso livello le tre arie

  • @lapintelaurent7956
    @lapintelaurent7956 Рік тому

    "Nicht Bach, sondern Meer sollte er heißen." 0:30... 777 6:57...

    • @lapintelaurent7956
      @lapintelaurent7956 Рік тому

      J'ai gravé l'enregistrement de Junghänel avec le premier pc que j'ai eu en 2004 pour mes trente ans ( vraiment pas un excité de l'informatique, moi !)....des années après, j'ai trouvé l'original pour 1 ou 2 euros.... je viens de les envoyer tous les deux sur CD 380 et CD 780 qui remplacent avantageusement ma TEAC 1250 1bit et ce pour le même prix (45 eur)...
      Eh bien maintenant je ne peux que constater que le son est identique... à mon oreille ! Superbes, ces petites PHILIPS 16 bits !

    • @lapintelaurent7956
      @lapintelaurent7956 Рік тому

      Pour beaucoup de "pros" de la musique, Bach est le plus "grand"... cela m'a toujours fait sourire... Händel, Vivaldi, Haydn, Mozart ou Beethoven sont-ils plus petits ?😁

  • @beatjunker1107
    @beatjunker1107 2 роки тому

    Zu

  • @flemmingranch8777
    @flemmingranch8777 4 роки тому

    Her er der ikke grund til gråd og klage. Det er smukt og følsomt både musik og sang.....

  • @petershapiro4247
    @petershapiro4247 2 місяці тому

    nice but he doesn't understand the power in the music, so it's a little boring