One reason I love Gardiner's handling of Bach is that he brings out Bach's text coloring, and accentuates Bach's contrapuntal attach by paying close attention to the stresses contained within the German language itself. He has the innate ability to put vocal weight on a line of music not from a purely music idea, but giving total commitment to language which, after all, is what Bach (a committed Lutheran) would do.
Thank you for summarizing so well why I admire and respect Gardiner. Let me add that Gardiner provides the "Full-HD" resolution of Bach's work. There is this incredible transparency and you hear every "pixel" of the music. Greetings from Germany!
However, one of the great mysteries is how a person who can render such profound interpretations can be pretty unpleasant in real life, accusations of physical violence in the workplace, deeply angry and with.a strange reverence for hierarchy and cosying up to the establishment. How blessed he has been to be able to work in this space and craft these unbelievable works of art and yet he has so frequently brought violence and aggression into these spaces.
This is one of Bach's first cantatas, probably written for Easter 1707 when he was barely 22 years old. 00:30 Sinfonia, Orchestra 01:48 Versus 1, Chorus, Christ lag in Todes Banden (Christ lay in the bonds of death) 05:50 Versus 2, Soprano-Alto Duet, Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt (No one could overcome death) 11:16 Versus 3, Tenor aria, Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn (Jesus Christ, the Son of God) 13:04 Versus 4, Chorus, Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg (It was a wondrous battle) 14:58 Versus 5, Bass aria, Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm (Here is the true Easter lamb) 19:20 Versus 6, Soprano-Tenor Duet, So feiern wir das hohe Fest (Thus we celebrate the high feast) 20:56 Versus 7, Chorus, Wir essen und leben wohl (We eat and flourish) Discussion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_lag_in_Todes_Banden%2C_BWV_4
00:30 1. Sinfonia [Symphony] 01:49 2. Christ lag in Todesbanden [Christ Lay in Death Bonds] (Chorus) 05:54 3. Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt [No one can force death] (Chorus: S, A) 11:17 4. Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn [Jesus Christ, Son of God] (Aria: T) 13:04 5. Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg [It was a wondrous war] (Chorus) 15:00 6. Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm [Here is the right Easter lamb] (Aria: B) 19:21 7. So feiern wir das hohe Fest [This is how we celebrate the high feast] (Duet: S, T) 21:00 8. Wir essen und leben wohl [We eat and farewell] (Chorus)
Gardiner gets underneath the skin of this exceptional piece, drawing the listener into the power and meaning of the text. The music goes far beyond simply accompanying the words, it embodies them. As Gardiner rightly says, Bach is the musical gold standard. I cannot comprehend how it is possible for someone in his early 20's to compose such a magnificent, complex piece of work. Thanks to JEG, MC &. EBS for an excellent and memorable performance.
Extraordinaire « Den Tod » la puissance dramatique est à son apogée avec la retenue des paroles chantées et la lenteur du tempo .. No Words. Magnifique suspension du temps .
Beautiful beautiful music....and a wonderful choir....fantastic....I so enjoyed this clip. I saw this on the BBCProms a few days ago and then found it on YT...LOVE it !
Always thrilled how Gardinier and his fantastic musicians bring light to J. S. Bach. Transparent layering and rhythm finally contradict the depressively clerical swamp of German interpretations and traditions of German performers of the past 40 years. My God what clarity! I assume Bach is grinning in his grave. :)
Good grief UA-cam, the midroll ads really ruin the performance, particularly when they interrupt a movement! I wish we didn't have to use UA-cam!! Ads have totally ruined the platform.
Einfach wunderbar. Vielen lieben Dank. Gesegnet eure wunderschöne Darbietung, und Johann Sebastian Bach würde sich ganz sicher darüber freuen. Ehre sei Gott.
Adoro a Gardiner... lo he seguido siempre, y se ve guapo todavía... y a propósito de la Cantata 4.... no había escuchado unos aleluya tan rápidos.... magnífico.
Le génie à l'état pur, qui peut faire mieux ? Händel, Rameau ou Vivaldi ? mais étant Français j'adore tellement la musique bouleversante et unique de Rameau et de Couperin, que je m'interroge ? J'adore aussi l’allégresse inégalable de Vivaldi, l’âme italienne dans sa plus belle expression, une pure merveille, un génie absolu comme Scarlatti et Pergolese, mais JS mon ami, reste le maitre absolu avec Rameau , et que dire de Purcell, le génie anglais qui a finalement tout engendré, je pense que Allemand, italien, Français et anglais, nous avons tous un monde à reconstruire comme avant, car nous sommes de la même graine et le temps presse !!!
Beau commentaire. J'approuve. À reconstruire ou à construire ? Et peut-être pas comme avant. Il faut quelque chose de radicalement nouveau, qui ne contredit pas l'ancien, mais l'accomplit : " Le ciel n'annule pas la terre, il l'accomplit." Sri Aurobindo, Savitri
BWV-4 polish text: Chrystus leżał w mocy śmierci za nasze grzechy wydany, Ten też zaś mocny, wstał zmartwych, i przyniosł nam żywot wieczny, ztąd się wszyseh weselmy, Boga chwaląc wdzięczni bądźmy, śpiewając Hallelujah, Hallelujah! Christ lag in Todesbanden Für unsre Sünd gegeben, Er ist wieder erstanden Und hat uns bracht das Leben; Des wir sollen fröhlich sein, Gott loben und ihm dankbar sein Und singen halleluja, Halleluja!
I know we are dealing with Master Gardiner BUT I still dare to question such a big choir and orchestra. It feel quite extemporaneous. I had the chance of doing this cantata with Thomaskantor herr Hans-Joachim Rotzsch and we were a choir of 16. What herr Rotzsch did exctly as sir Gardiner were the lines marked in the scores as "duets" and "solos" with the whole string, i.e., no soloists in the cantata, all the choir as a team.
Please remember, this performance took place in the Royal Albert Hall before an audience of 4000. Bach himself surely never performed in a venue of that size. For this performance I suspect Sir John has augmented the ensemble.
This originalist argument is really so dull. Imagine if there was only One Right Way to play a piece. Why even continue to perform? Where's the fun in that? How about we judge each performance on its own merits. I enjoyed this performance very much, and I enjoy other performances equally.
What a fabulous performance - congratulations to all involved! Bach wrote this, it's reckoned, when he was aged about 22. If he had got run over by a bus the next day and written nothing else, he would surely still be accounted a god. I'm not entirely sure about Mr Gardiner's pink sleeve linings - who does he think he is, Wagner? Or maybe there are practical considerations, like at 12:34 when he wipes his nose.
There are parts that would be better with soloists and not chorus sections (common sense) fortunately the choir is good, good quality, and the orchestra is great, but the soloists are missed.
I agree. Check out the album 'ricercar' by Christoph Poppen with members of the Hilliard Ensemble and the Munich Chamber Orchestra. That's a great recording of the Cantata with a much more slim arrangement, including soloists.
@@dzospir6859 I love this version (a favorite live version) that you recommend, but some choral parts would be fine in some moments and not only soloists (it is the opposite case of Gardiner) A combination of choir and soloists would be ideal (more varied and interesting)
Being a troll here. In my opinion.. @ 4:37- 5:03 "Und Singen Alleuia"...ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL. @ 5:04-5:40...Much too fast..not joyous as he said in his intro video..The singers sounded frantic and towards the end they sounded like they were shouting.
I usually love what Gardiner does, but this performance has "I'm so bored of Bach I no longer know what to do with him" written all over it. Bach's music is pretty good the way it is, really. If you feel it needs "enhancement", maestro, maybe you should look for something else to perform.
muzikay: sadly, yours has the uneducated and impertinent commentary written all over it. Maybe you should look at some lesser JHS maestro's performance...................
Muzikay, you might want to consider the venue. This ensemble and director most often performs and records in acoustical spaces that are more appropriate to the music, not vast halls like Royal Albert. And they usually perform without enhancements, while here they appear to have lots of microphones on them, I assume because a small group like that could not fill the space without the enhancement. These changes certainly necessitate things such as chorus instead of soloists, and a more pointed and separated style lest it get too muddy. And the audience is probably less familiar with the music, so making it a bit more dramatic or exaggerated was probably a good move. There is not much cause to assume that Elliott is simply 'bored with Bach'......
Hmmm. There is no accounting for taste. In my opinion this is a tremendous and sensitively attuned response to Bach’s score and Bach’s meaning. And ‘bored of Bach’? On the contrary, Gardiner relishes him!
I agree. It's not Bach he's performing. It's more like he's dealing with Helgoland of Bruckner or something else from that period. Technically it's outstanding what they are doing. But it's not performing Bach, imho.
That was painful. It's supposed to be a somber piece, not a pop concert. Both tempo and balance are very bad. There are much better interpretations on YT.
Glory to God, for this beautiful and heavenly music, bless is the memory of our Master Bach.
Glory to Bach, credits where credits belong
One reason I love Gardiner's handling of Bach is that he brings out Bach's text coloring, and accentuates Bach's contrapuntal attach by paying close attention to the stresses contained within the German language itself. He has the innate ability to put vocal weight on a line of music not from a purely music idea, but giving total commitment to language which, after all, is what Bach (a committed Lutheran) would do.
Thank you for summarizing so well why I admire and respect Gardiner. Let me add that Gardiner provides the "Full-HD" resolution of Bach's work. There is this incredible transparency and you hear every "pixel" of the music. Greetings from Germany!
Beautiful comment!!
Gardiner and Bach's music are a match made in Heaven!!
However, one of the great mysteries is how a person who can render such profound interpretations can be pretty unpleasant in real life, accusations of physical violence in the workplace, deeply angry and with.a strange reverence for hierarchy and cosying up to the establishment. How blessed he has been to be able to work in this space and craft these unbelievable works of art and yet he has so frequently brought violence and aggression into these spaces.
@@jackbchfan So true, and unmistakably human.
@@dancertmt
Heard this for the first time today and was completely bowled over.. JS Bach, the gift that keeps on giving
This is one of Bach's first cantatas, probably written for Easter 1707 when he was barely 22 years old.
00:30 Sinfonia, Orchestra
01:48 Versus 1, Chorus, Christ lag in Todes Banden (Christ lay in the bonds of death)
05:50 Versus 2, Soprano-Alto Duet, Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt (No one could overcome death)
11:16 Versus 3, Tenor aria, Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn (Jesus Christ, the Son of God)
13:04 Versus 4, Chorus, Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg (It was a wondrous battle)
14:58 Versus 5, Bass aria, Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm (Here is the true Easter lamb)
19:20 Versus 6, Soprano-Tenor Duet, So feiern wir das hohe Fest (Thus we celebrate the high feast)
20:56 Versus 7, Chorus, Wir essen und leben wohl (We eat and flourish)
Discussion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_lag_in_Todes_Banden%2C_BWV_4
Thank you!!!
Thanks
Thanks, this is great
@vsevsad9376 👋 If you paste this table with the time codes in the video description, UA-cam will automatically create chapters from it.
00:30 1. Sinfonia [Symphony]
01:49 2. Christ lag in Todesbanden [Christ Lay in Death Bonds] (Chorus)
05:54 3. Den Tod niemand zwingen kunnt [No one can force death] (Chorus: S, A)
11:17 4. Jesus Christus, Gottes Sohn [Jesus Christ, Son of God] (Aria: T)
13:04 5. Es war ein wunderlicher Krieg [It was a wondrous war] (Chorus)
15:00 6. Hier ist das rechte Osterlamm [Here is the right Easter lamb] (Aria: B)
19:21 7. So feiern wir das hohe Fest [This is how we celebrate the high feast] (Duet: S, T)
21:00 8. Wir essen und leben wohl [We eat and farewell] (Chorus)
Bach is the legend of all time. Thanks for uploading.
What an amazing rendition! The Monteverdi choir is so fabulous, and Sir Gardiner is such a genius!
Depuis la RD Congo, j'aime beaucoup votre façon de faire!
Je suis un musicien et je vous respecte !
Félicitations
Bravo
Gardiner gets underneath the skin of this exceptional piece, drawing the listener into the power and meaning of the text. The music goes far beyond simply accompanying the words, it embodies them. As Gardiner rightly says, Bach is the musical gold standard. I cannot comprehend how it is possible for someone in his early 20's to compose such a magnificent, complex piece of work. Thanks to JEG, MC &. EBS for an excellent and memorable performance.
I’d like to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for this treasure trove.
It's Lent - had a rough few days here - I stumbled across this video today and it brought me comfort. I shall bookmark it for the future.
This displays even more dramatic development than the earlier recording on UA-cam. Deeply moving; glorious!
Bach makes me feel more close to happiness. Thanks
Moderator sounds like commeting a football game. "now gardner is back on the field. will he score this time even more..... ohh, elliot gardiner!"
Exactly my thoughts!
This performance is clean! The "Den Tod" is just exquisite. This should be one of the best performances ever.
Extraordinaire « Den Tod » la puissance dramatique est à son apogée avec la retenue des paroles chantées et la lenteur du tempo .. No Words. Magnifique suspension du temps .
Beautiful beautiful music....and a wonderful choir....fantastic....I so enjoyed this clip. I saw this on the BBCProms a few days ago and then found it on YT...LOVE it !
Always thrilled how Gardinier and his fantastic musicians bring light to J. S. Bach. Transparent layering and rhythm finally contradict the depressively clerical swamp of German interpretations and traditions of German performers of the past 40 years.
My God what clarity!
I assume Bach is grinning in his grave. :)
I've seen this a couple of times and still applaud every time. You hear something new every time.
Gardiner's slow tempo on the Den Tod part is simply exquisite. What a genius.
I do prefer the NBV's version though.
I wonder if the continuo played out of tune on purpose.
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@@aksuli1I thought I was imagining it!
¡Simplemente hermoso!
GRACIAS
Good grief UA-cam, the midroll ads really ruin the performance, particularly when they interrupt a movement! I wish we didn't have to use UA-cam!! Ads have totally ruined the platform.
Use adblockers, I don" t get to see any ads at all with my AdBlock
Yeah, that sucks. Especialy when you have the App.
Absolutely excellent performance!
An outstanding performance. In every respect ! thank you.
Pela milésima vez. Quase todos os dias. Eu estou aqui ouvindo essa celestial composição.
I love the early cantatas of Bach. They're so inventive and full of youthful vigour
4:40 to 5:40 -- Maybe the best minute of music Bach ever wrote!
könnte sein und er hat viele gute minuten geschrieben.
@@hermannhunzinger8881 Ja, viele davon! ...Natürlich, wären es bei jeder anderen Aufführung seine besten ZWEI minuten gewesen!
Einfach wunderbar. Vielen lieben Dank. Gesegnet eure wunderschöne Darbietung, und Johann Sebastian Bach würde sich ganz sicher darüber freuen. Ehre sei Gott.
Adoro a Gardiner... lo he seguido siempre, y se ve guapo todavía... y a propósito de la Cantata 4.... no había escuchado unos aleluya tan rápidos.... magnífico.
Le génie à l'état pur, qui peut faire mieux ? Händel, Rameau ou Vivaldi ? mais étant Français j'adore tellement la musique bouleversante et unique de Rameau et de Couperin, que je m'interroge ?
J'adore aussi l’allégresse inégalable de Vivaldi, l’âme italienne dans sa plus belle expression, une pure merveille, un génie absolu comme Scarlatti et Pergolese, mais JS mon ami, reste le maitre absolu avec Rameau , et que dire de Purcell, le génie anglais qui a finalement tout engendré, je pense que Allemand, italien, Français et anglais, nous avons tous un monde à
reconstruire comme avant, car nous sommes de la même graine et le temps presse !!!
Beau commentaire. J'approuve.
À reconstruire ou à construire ? Et peut-être pas comme avant. Il faut quelque chose de radicalement nouveau, qui ne contredit pas l'ancien, mais l'accomplit :
" Le ciel n'annule pas la terre, il l'accomplit."
Sri Aurobindo, Savitri
... le temps est écoulé...
I would wish for a performance of this magnificent work somewhere in Ukraine as soon as possible.
But they would not be strangers to the work.
Amo a Bach y adoro a Gardiner. La belleza suprema de la cantata 4
"Compared to Bach we all suck." - Pat Metheny
I like how Martin Luther’s hymn runs through the entire piece like a thread.
Sir Gardiner is top 10
Superbe !
Thanks again.
Fantastic
Happy Easter!
BWV-4 polish text:
Chrystus leżał w mocy śmierci
za nasze grzechy wydany,
Ten też zaś mocny,
wstał zmartwych,
i przyniosł nam żywot wieczny,
ztąd się wszyseh weselmy,
Boga chwaląc wdzięczni bądźmy,
śpiewając Hallelujah, Hallelujah!
Christ lag in Todesbanden
Für unsre Sünd gegeben,
Er ist wieder erstanden
Und hat uns bracht das Leben;
Des wir sollen fröhlich sein,
Gott loben und ihm dankbar sein
Und singen halleluja,
Halleluja!
I know we are dealing with Master Gardiner BUT I still dare to question such a big choir and orchestra. It feel quite extemporaneous. I had the chance of doing this cantata with Thomaskantor herr Hans-Joachim Rotzsch and we were a choir of 16. What herr Rotzsch did exctly as sir Gardiner were the lines marked in the scores as "duets" and "solos" with the whole string, i.e., no soloists in the cantata, all the choir as a team.
Please remember, this performance took place in the Royal Albert Hall before an audience of 4000. Bach himself surely never performed in a venue of that size. For this performance I suspect Sir John has augmented the ensemble.
This originalist argument is really so dull. Imagine if there was only One Right Way to play a piece. Why even continue to perform? Where's the fun in that? How about we judge each performance on its own merits. I enjoyed this performance very much, and I enjoy other performances equally.
Amazing
Thanks.
wahnsinnig gut
Beautiful. That is all.
Sublime🧡
Some very tidy playing, indeed.
What a fabulous performance - congratulations to all involved!
Bach wrote this, it's reckoned, when he was aged about 22. If he had got run over by a bus the next day and written nothing else, he would surely still be accounted a god.
I'm not entirely sure about Mr Gardiner's pink sleeve linings - who does he think he is, Wagner? Or maybe there are practical considerations, like at 12:34 when he wipes his nose.
Thank you for this.
Please could you upload Handels Dixit Dominus from the same concert. BBC seems to have removed it.
As splendid a performance.
Немного пафосно , но иначе никак, все же Альбертхолл , все превосходно , хор ,оркестр ну и Сэр конечно!!!
Thank you for Subscribe!!
PLEASE REPOST GARDNER'S VERSION DIXIT DOMINUS BBC PROMOS 2021!!
Hi, it was on some other channel now seemingly deleted 😬
Cant you post?
I don't have it
@@vsevsad9376 😭😭😭
Wow
Where are the trombones?
,6:08love this part
There are parts that would be better with soloists and not chorus sections (common sense) fortunately the choir is good, good quality, and the orchestra is great, but the soloists are missed.
I agree. Check out the album 'ricercar' by Christoph Poppen with members of the Hilliard Ensemble and the Munich Chamber Orchestra. That's a great recording of the Cantata with a much more slim arrangement, including soloists.
There is this older performance where only soloists are singing: ua-cam.com/video/C_PinoZvY5Q/v-deo.html. Also very much Bach to me.
@@dzospir6859 I love this version (a favorite live version) that you recommend, but some choral parts would be fine in some moments and not only soloists (it is the opposite case of Gardiner) A combination of choir and soloists would be ideal (more varied and interesting)
I very much agree.
20:56
quando dici la perfezione............
Kub Burgs
04:30 oi
Being a troll here.
In my opinion..
@ 4:37- 5:03 "Und Singen Alleuia"...ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL.
@ 5:04-5:40...Much too fast..not joyous as he said in his intro video..The singers sounded frantic and towards the end they sounded like they were shouting.
5:04 FASTER! *FASTER!!!*
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Does Gardiner know any German? I'm sure he does, but it's not apparent from his interpretation of this piece.
Too many "artificial" details.
I usually love what Gardiner does, but this performance has "I'm so bored of Bach I no longer know what to do with him" written all over it. Bach's music is pretty good the way it is, really. If you feel it needs "enhancement", maestro, maybe you should look for something else to perform.
muzikay: sadly, yours has the uneducated and impertinent commentary written all over it. Maybe you should look at some lesser JHS maestro's performance...................
Muzikay, you might want to consider the venue. This ensemble and director most often performs and records in acoustical spaces that are more appropriate to the music, not vast halls like Royal Albert. And they usually perform without enhancements, while here they appear to have lots of microphones on them, I assume because a small group like that could not fill the space without the enhancement. These changes certainly necessitate things such as chorus instead of soloists, and a more pointed and separated style lest it get too muddy. And the audience is probably less familiar with the music, so making it a bit more dramatic or exaggerated was probably a good move. There is not much cause to assume that Elliott is simply 'bored with Bach'......
Hmmm. There is no accounting for taste. In my opinion this is a tremendous and sensitively attuned response to Bach’s score and Bach’s meaning. And ‘bored of Bach’? On the contrary, Gardiner relishes him!
I agree. It's not Bach he's performing. It's more like he's dealing with Helgoland of Bruckner or something else from that period. Technically it's outstanding what they are doing. But it's not performing Bach, imho.
Disturbing and unnatural choices of tempo in my opinion ...
The mark of a aging and out-of-date Maestro...
That was painful. It's supposed to be a somber piece, not a pop concert. Both tempo and balance are very bad. There are much better interpretations on YT.