Fix shower faucet that is only hot or cold. Valve cartridge replacement.
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2020
- In this video we show how to fix a shower that won't get hot (the fix also works if it won't get cold). All it takes is a screwdriver, pair of pliers, and a replacement cartridge!
And yes, I said 'vice grip' pliers a few times, I meant 'channel lock' pliers. Although either could work just fine.
Replacement cartridges can be found at most hardware stores or online.
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The cartridge for this faucet is the Moen 1222:
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I saw a perfect tip for cartridges that won't move -- use a hair dryer and warm up the cartridge for 5 minutes. It works!
That's a great tip! Thanks for sharing!
I got the heat gun works for alll you single Guys
That’s a great tip thank you because that’s the hardest part of this job getting the old cartridge out
I just reattach the handle, wiggle and pull.
@@curtisharwood6626 leverage
This worked for me after having my shower not be able to turn off for seven days. (It took me two days to figure out how to turn off the main water supply for Hot AND cold water.)
One suggestion:
I’ve watched many videos for this specific problem with the Moen bath handle. None of the videos say what Allen wrench size key you need. It’s 7/64”. Please add that to the description to save us time and effort. I have so many different sizes of Allen wrenches but I did not have that size which costed me two trips to the hardware store before a thorough Google search.
Allen wrench key size needed: 7/64”.
Thank you! 😊
Thank you for making this so straight forward! Very helpful!
Awesome! Glad you found it useful!
Thanks for showing THE WHOLE process and not hiding what could go wrong. Great video!
Thank you for uploading an honest video showing the struggles that can happen!
You bet! It's definitely not always as easy as they show on This Old House 😄
Looks like that is exactly what I need to do with mine. Thanks so much for the video.
Thanks for your help. I will be changing the hot/cold water mixer valve and hope that fix’s the problem. Thanks again!
Thanks for posting this repair! Big help!!
thanks for this video and the comments. made everything so much easier.
Glad it helped!
Thank you for showing the strugge!!
You save my time and money a lot because I was ready to open my dry wall thinking there might be a leaking. Great job and explanation. Thank you very much
Glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for watching!
Hello... how do I get cold water to come out of the faucet in the shower all I get is hot water in the shower turn it to get the cold water the hotter it gets I don't understand what's going on what's going on can you please give me some tips.
Excellent! Thats just the way it goes. Nothing is easy.
You got that right!
Awesome, simple and easy vid!!
Thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful!
This makes so so much sense thank you!! Our actual handle wasn’t on the cartridge very well at all. Eventually it just wouldn’t turn and it would fall off constantly. Eventuality it wouldn’t go back on or turn it and so we had to use a vice grip to take showers or baths. I think eventually the tool damaged the cartridge piece cause now it’s only hot, like steaming hot and hurts bad hot lol
Thanks for this very helpful!
This is not how you should remove it . Those are not vise grips !! There is a tool for this removal .
Nice video. So much better than the paper instructions included with the new cartridge. Thank you!
Awesome! Glad to hear you found the video useful 👍🏼
we did similar job recently.Yes the moen part is extremely difficult to pull out.Another issue I'd like to put different set but it is not possible,because it should same type shower faucet.Anyway you did good video thumbs up
Great video, but the tip in the comments about using a hairdryer, saved me the 20 minutes that you spent struggling to pull it out. I really appreciated that you named the part number; Amazon had it here in a few days.
Awesome, glad you found it useful! That was a good tip, I just pinned it to the top so hopefully others see it as well.
Thanks ! Very helpful
Omg. Channel lock. Couldn't resist however cool video.
Excellent video! Thank you very much
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Great job. Now I can go fix mine. Thank you.
Glad you found it helpful!
Our shower valve was stuck and we didn't have the tool, but by accident found a way to get it out without any effort. We had taken off the shower head and put an end cap on it since it was leaking some water and turned the main water valve back on to do laundry. In just a few minutes the stuck shower valve was pushed out by the water pressure (the retaining clip was removed). Just have some one ready to turn off the water supply when it comes out.
Nicely done! Thank you.
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks. I had the same symptoms and replacing the cartridge on my delta shower faucet got it working again. I've never seen anyone else show these symptoms. Also I put the new cartridge upside down and I was wondering why I had pressure but no hot water and then remembered your video saying to turn it around if that's the problem.
Thank you so much for your help, as you saved me so much time and money
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you, perfect vid.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks, 42Pursuit! You just saved my sister a few hundred dollars! 👍🏻
Sweet! Glad it was helpful!
The trouble you had getting that out was SO realistic for how these things really go when you get in there. Good work. I have a mixer valve that 's bad but I need to get in there to look and confirm what's what.
So true! It never goes as easy as the tutorial videos seem to show.
Good luck on getting your mixer valve fixed!
@@42Pursuit Fixed! All smooth, needed the cartridge puller tool for sure, though I can tell it's been opened before and returned. I may do that too.
Great job and explanation. Thank you very much
You are welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Good job
Thanks so much. Mine just broke today. Btw you are so fine 😊
THANKS. very useful video
Big thank you !
Thank you so much we had no clue what was going on.
Glad the video helped you out!
Great video. Thanks for not editing this to make it perfect. Good to know the possible struggles I may face 😉
Thanks! I was tempted to edit out the struggle, but I'm glad I didn't as you're not the first to say they were glad to see what issues may come up.
Thanks for watching and leaving a kind comment :)
Whoa how neat that hole is in drywall
thanks a lot guy i have a moen as well and is doing exactly that I knew it was the valve but I did not know what to buy cheers.
Glad I could help!
Thanks, great instruction video. Home Depot had free replacement valves from Moen and the job was a 10 minute miracle success.
Fantastic! If you have a second, could you explain how you got a free replacement valve from Home Depot? I hadn't heard of that before. Thanks!
Yes please explain
@@42Pursuit I think what he was saying is that you go to HD to get the replacement while you call Moen to send replacement cartridge. Replace the old with the HD replacement valve, then when the replacement valve comes in from Moen, return that one to HD. Otherwise he meant to return the defective one to HD.
Thank you!
thanks for sharing your information.
My pleasure! Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you 🙏 great video 👍
Glad you found it helpful!
Saved me a lot of money and hassle, thanks mate!
Heck yeah! Glad it helped!
@@42Pursuit What's difference between 1222 and 1222B cartridge?
@@riverocean4380 There is no material difference between the 1222 and the 1222b. The only difference is that "b" in the 1222b stands for "bulk." So, when large distributors like The Shower Head Store buys large bulk quantities of this cartridge, the packaging will show "b" for bulk.
@@42Pursuit Thanks for the prompt reply. We live on a farm with very hard water. Though we have a water softner, we still have issues with the cartridges. Some of them last years, some we have to replace every couple of years. So there is a difference between 1225 and 1222 I believe.
Thank you so much
You get a thumbs up cause I thought I was the only one who DIY stuff and things don't go as planned. Hahaha!
Hah, yeah, every project has it's challenges. I'm convinced most videos edit that part out 😄
I have this issue in my shower and it's SO ANNOYING! Thanks for the vid!
You bet! Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you
Good video, definitely got me going in the right direction. My cartridge also wouldn't budge and I also destroyed the little plastic tool that came with the new valve. So I tried the hair dryer trick, no luck. So back to the big box store (Lowe's), bought the Moen core puller for about $15. Got the old cartridge out in about 2 minutes and was all done within 5 minutes from that point.
My recommendation is to buy the core puller when you buy the cartridge because you will probably need it but if not, just return it next time your at Lowe's or wherever you bought it from.
Great point! Get the core puller just in case and save your receipt 👍
Thanks for watching and adding a valuable comment!
aww DANG I'M HOOKED, I LOVE THIS STUFF. :) Its fascinating
Pretty cool to see how things work and to learn how to fix stuff, that's for sure :)
WELL SAID!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
You bet! Glad you found the video helpful!
your was rhe best, I did have to turn the whole cartridge
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
good job bud. Thx. Good video
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for letting me know!
Thank you 👍👍
Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you for the video. I have to do that now.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks so much!!!!
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for this! This is the exact same issue we are having with our master bath shower with only getting warm water during a shower. We were told that the cartridge might need to be replaced, but the part could cost up to 300.00 depending on the make. 🤔😲
Cartridges are sometimes covered under manufacture's warranty. Check on that before you buy a replacement.
@@42Pursuit Much thanks!
Parts are usually under warranty foras long as you own the home.
@@42Pursuit would i need a receipt
Great video as I have same faucet but mine was a nightmare. Due to our hard water the cartridge would not budge. And while barely pulling the metal piece that sticks out broke off which left nothing to pull on. Drilled out the metal center of from the that broke off and screwed in a coarse screw to give me something to pull on. Tried al the tricks I could find and nothing worked. I had to carefully drill out the plastic all around and the the middle metal part came out and that had to chip out the rest of the plastic as is was basically welded to the pipe. Over 4 hours later I have working shower again and decided time to get water softener. If you have hard water like mine and house 20+ years old prepare for no water for hours and an epic fight.
Wow, that sounds like a tough replacement! Nice work sticking with it and getting it working! Hard water can be a huge pain long-term for sure.
Lifesaver ❤
Great video. Is there a way to clean / repair the cartridge that is only letting hit water through? I rinsed it as good as i could from any visible setamint and it helped a bit, but still not great.
I'm wondering if soaking it in CLR overnight or something would help as Im not able to get to a store as we are at a remote location... thanks everyone!
Thank you for the instruction in this video. This was the problem in the master shower. I had to call upon Jesus to pull that cartridge out, man it was in there. This saved me allot of money by not having to call the plumber.
Glad it helped!
I feel ya, those can get _REALLY_ stuck in there sometimes!
What size alley w to use been trying to take mine off for 45 min I was told it shouldn’t move maybe mine is stript
Our problem was a bit different. From operating normally to you either get ice cold water or scalding hot, there was no middle ground (no mixing). And the gandle also seemed to be loosening. It came off in my hand today (the attaching screw went somewhere, but then my son said it happened to him a few days earlier but didn't bother to say anything to me). I'm hoping it's the screw issue, but something tells me it's the mixer.
There's a tool for removing stems called a " Moen/danco cartridge removal". Makes removing cartridge so much easier.
Totally! That's a great tip! I was trying to do without to save the cost but it probably would've been worth it to get one to save the hassle.
Im, having the same problem , but my faucet does not have brand name looks exactly like this Moen but dont know howcto buy the cartridge any help will apreciate thx
Thanks for the demonstration. Can you please say, what size Allen key was used? Thanks again
7/64"
@uneicag posted it above
Thanks.
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful 👍🏼
It gets worse when the brass cartridge breaks off entirely. I had the pleasure of drilling a hole into the center of the spool and driving in a 3/8 tap, then pulling that out with the use of pb blaster and a torch on the valve body. Great valve when its not stuck!
Any advice on a faucet that performs as such from left to right - off, hot, warm, hot, off? Pressure is fine throughout. Think this could be a potential fix?
I'd really like to be able to finish my showers with cold water.
Does the handle spin 360 degrees around or does it stop at the end before it makes it all the way around? If it doesn't stop at the end or it stops really far around it may be an end-stop issue. Check the white plastic pieces that are typically right behind the handle. Pull them apart and rotate one a few notches and see if that does anything.
It also sounds like hot and cold are backwards which is an easy fix by pulling out and rotating the mixer core 180 degrees and then reinstalling it.
I noticed the cartridge that you took out has an O-ring and each end. The new cartridge you installed only had the one O-ring at the control end (Knob shaft). Is the second O-ring not necessary?
I assume that they updated the design for some good reason, so I'd say that if your replacement cartridge didn't have the second o-ring that it should be fine.
Mine is hard to turn will that fix my problem
This is the exact step where I got stuck and called a plumber. He used his handy dandy cartridge removal tool and replaced in just 5 mins. It cost me $150 CAD through :( Thank you for your video through.
Shoot! Yeah, that cartridge puller is a handy tool, but for most people it'd be used only once. Still might be worth it though.
That's real different from mines cold and hot has its on fixtures and the shower head as well
great video! thank you.
What could be the problem with my single handle shower knob that it doesn’t have a stopping point? you can twist it to turn it on, and you can twist it to turn it off, but if you twist too far, it just goes on again …. you can keep twisting!
So you have to very very carefully and specifically twist it to the “stopping point” and it’s hard to get it just right!
This is crazy making! Everyone knows the handle should just twist to an Off position and stop automatically. Do you have a cartridge problem??!!
I may be the valve but there's often a plastic ring that's visible right after you remove the handle. It is the piece that usually limits the rotation of the handle. In your case it sounds like it may have been installed incorrectly, or is broken. Remove just the faucet handle and see what things look like just behind it. It may be an easy fix or require a replacement plastic piece.
After you place the retaining clip, wall plate, silver sleeve, turn on the water... (the white and black caps not yet installed) try to turn the knob clock-wise to the point water turns -off. Now put the white cap aligned with the silver sleeve. Now this is the solution part. Place the outer black plastic cap such that that screw hole is facing down not up.
The screw hole side of the black cap does not need to be align to the white cap.
(this was my mistake before)
This way, when you screw the handle pointing down (the hole of the handle is facing down and so with the hole of the black cap is also facing down). When installed, the handle is facing down position and the water is off position as well.
Yes, I agree you can twist the metal part over and over as if there is no stopping point. But when the white cap when installed, that white cap is in fix position. When last black plastic cap is installed and screwed, it has stopping point when you rotate it.
i replaced the cartridge and the problem was instantly and beautifully RESOLVED, thanks everybody !
Wow, thanks. I need to try this tomorrow. Our bath faucet all of sudden is very hard to shut off. Also, I have another bathtub but this one has two valves, all of sudden when I turn on the hot water it barely comes out but cold water comes out really nicely. Do you have any idea why? Thanks.
Hmm, not sure but it sounds like some sort of blockage to happen quickly like that. Sometimes hard water minerals will build up and then release as a clump.
I replace my value but only hot come out but no cold ? Just little amount of water can someone know what i did wrong
My shower is to hot both cold and hot water work but trying to get it not to hot is impossible. My faucet has the clear plastic handle and it doesn’t have the white plastic piece I’ve seen others adjust. Any help would be appreciated
What great video .....I 66 yrs old and don't know much PLUMBING.....have 66 yr old. house .I think this might be my problem...Whe I TAKE shower the hot water takes over ....I sometime reluctant to fix things cause these things are meant to last MY al.9st got hernia trying to get .y shower head off .....Just waiting 4 my younger plumber to fix.
How much for this job
Appreciate the video - easy to follow…didn’t help my problem at all though 😫
Bummer! Sorry to hear that.
Did you end up getting the issue figured out? I'm curious what the problem was.
mu home is less than 2 years old. 2 of the shower have this problem. would the core be the problem here?
Hmm, hard to tell. Seems like both shouldn't fail that fast but it might be worth replacing one and seeing if that fixes the issue.
I have the same faucet and the same problem. I changed the cartridge like you did and problem is not fixed. What else do you think that might causes it?
Hmm, all I can think of is maybe a bad cartridge, or there's some issue with the water supply from either hot or cold, like a blockage or restriction or something upstream from the faucet.
It worked for me too but, the same issue came back. Now i have to replace the cartridge again and its only been 3 months. Could there be another reason ? Thank you!
They have a core puller that makes it easier
True, but it seems a shame to buy it to only use it once. Definitely the solution for stubborn removals though.
This little ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
The plumbers screwed up and the cold and cold is reversed, so is it true that if the h/c tab is on the bottom that should reverse it back to normal?
Yes, I believe that is how this one is designed. Most faucet mixers have a way to flip it if the hot and cold are backwards.
I have a moen control. I am not able to take the clip off, the control is recessed in the wall. Think I will call the plumber.
Thank you for the video! How dangerous is cartridge replacement if I won’t turn off the water? I live in a studio and don’t have access where I can turn water off unfortunately. Do you think I can replace cartridge without turning water off?
Don't do it! The water has to be shut off or once the cartridges removed you'll have a geyser of water coming out that the cartridge used to be blocking. You must turn the water off before the valve or you're going to have a bad time.
Is this a serious question?
Great, how did you find out what cartridge you need for your faucet?.
There's only a few variations out there, and with a little bit of research you can generally figure out which one is in your faucet. You may have to take off the handle and cover to see what the mixer assembly looks like, and I bet if you take a picture of it and show someone that works in a home-store plumbing department they can point you in the right direction.
I can’t remove the set screw. So how can I remove the handle. I thought about cutting it off, then I have to get a new handle. And idea’s please.
If the set screw can't be moved due to hard water, try soaking it and the surrounding are with vinegar for some time. If it's due to rust, try soaking it with hydrogen peroxide or some penetrating fluid like PB Blaster.
If those options don't work, cutting off the handle could work if done carefully. Replacement handles are easy to find as well.
I do not have the tub spout, just the shower head. I have Moen as well. My problem is I have hot water on, I have cold water on, but can't get both hot and cold water. I am turning left and right, but is there an in and out as well?
Hmm, that seems like a different cartridge design. So when the position is between hot and cold, is no water coming out then? It sounds like it could still be the cartridge but I think furtherer research is required to know for sure.
@@42Pursuit Correct. When the handle is in between hot and cold, there is no water. Hot water when in hot position and cold water when in cold position. I think handle was mounted upside down to begin with.
@@AndrewAlvarez-py1zz I might be wrong but with your comment about the handle upside down, it almost sounds like something inside is rotated 180°. Sometimes there's a ring inside the handle that provides the end-stops for the handle position. See if you can remove just the screw holding the handle on, slide the handle off and see if there's something behind it limiting it's rotation, often a plastic ring of some sort, if so, see if it can be slid out and out and rotated 180° before putting the handle back on.
I am experiencing the exact same problem presented in video. Thank you for the presentation; I just hope that I don’t experience the same trouble removing cartridge. LOL On another note, my unit is 17 years old and there is lock on the Moen lever; and I cannot remove with a hex wrench.
Picking up a cartridge removal tool might be worth it. At least to have on hand, and return if you don't need it.
What sort of lock on the lever? If it's crusted from hard water, try wrapping a rag soaked in vinegar around it to help dissolve the mineral deposits.
How do you increase the water pressure. I don’t see a hot and cold water control valves
I don't believe water pressure is adjustable for this kind of valve. Pressure would have to be increased up-stream from the lines going into the valve body.
How to know what part number is mine?
is replacing the cartridge also helpful for drips?
It certainly can be as there's o'rings around the cartridge and if they get old, water can start leaking past and cause drips.
@@42Pursuit Thanks. I also have the dripping problem after about 5 years of usage.
Since these valves can go bad over a short time It would be wise to get the extraction tool made for these valves. Also for replacing the valve it isn't necessary to remove the plate as this will hold the inside valve body in place. And always make sure to use the lubricant made for these valves and never Vaseline or oil products. Believe me I have dealt with these valves in two homes I have and Moen can really make a simple DIY project a real job. Thats why they are called MOOOEN!!!!! You grunt while working them out!!!
All great points! A proper extraction tool would've been really great to have on this swap-out.
Thanks for watchin!
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Hi guys, mine look’s like moen style but there’s no brand what should I do? I’ll appreciate your help thx
Hard to know for sure. If it looks like a moen there's a good chance the parts will cross over, but it's not guaranteed.
@@42Pursuit thank broo👍🏼
Mine giving issue removing it too 🙏🏼
Swap that out and you'll be good to go! Good luck!
The handle doesn’t have an Allen key. What do I do? It looks like a small brass star head thingamajiggy. Please help.
Sounds like a Torx bit to me. You might have to get a set of that style of bits to take it apart. But don't worry, they're useful to have around and you'll certainly use them again in the future.
Hi, how do i know which model of cartridge i need to buy?
There's only a few different ones, and each fit in a different type of fixture. www.moen.com/moen-101/cartridges/standard
Some quick googling should get you there pretty quickly. The 1222 valve is standard for single handle Moen shower faucets. I can't speak to other brands.
@@42Pursuit thank you very much.
Please help i cant find the right wrench to take the handle off, what do i do?
It's either metric or imperial sized. If none of the sized work in one set, try the other kind.
@@42Pursuit for what it is worth, I had a heck of a time getting my handle off. It turns out it was not a set screw that required an allen wrench, but, instead, it was a torx set screw. I then replaced the cartridge with no problem and replaced the set screw with one that requires an allen wrench.
I get warm water on every faucet. Would it be the same problem or a water heater problem?
Probably not the same problem if every faucet is only warm water. Sounds like a supply issue, I'd trace your hot and cold water lines from the source where it enters your house and see if there's a valve that's turned off or down somewhere.