Why I Stopped Making Beats With Samples, Kinda.

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  • @DJPain1
    @DJPain1  Рік тому +46

    My new sample pack won’t get you in trouble: djpain1beats.com/sound-kits

    • @BKLYN_TZU
      @BKLYN_TZU Рік тому +2

      Wow that's horrible losing majority of your rights to your beats is ridiculous i have a question I'm now getting into producing beats but I create my own original beats I want to use vocal samples is that just as problematic as sampling other artists instrumentals if you can answer my question I definitely would appreciate it thank you.

    • @travishall4740
      @travishall4740 Рік тому +1

      I'm guessing the Dead man was either Marvin Gaye or Isaac Hayes. I wish I could know

    • @BKLYN_TZU
      @BKLYN_TZU Рік тому +2

      @@travishall4740 Travis Hall that's definitely the Gaye Family they don't play and they win majority of these lawsuits.

    • @GOGETTAMUZIC2010
      @GOGETTAMUZIC2010 Рік тому +2

      As far a sampling goes...How much is the difference between actually "sampling" the music and "duplicating" the music with a different instrument?

    • @AdamElteto
      @AdamElteto Рік тому +3

      @@GOGETTAMUZIC2010 One is master license, the other is mechanical license for the composition. You have to properly clear licensing for both. It is always better to recreate, sampling is just way too complicated these days, and no matter how much people are claiming it is "art", it will never be as original as your own composition.

  • @DillyDGIB
    @DillyDGIB Рік тому +48

    I respect the fact that you're pushing through all this bs to continue to spread the truth and give value to the community.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Appreciate your energy bro

  • @broussardbeats
    @broussardbeats Рік тому +69

    Sampling is one hell of a drug.

  • @sagcap7927
    @sagcap7927 Рік тому +25

    Absolutely right! I used to be a sample based producer until I learned this part of the business. After knowing this. I learned how to arrange and layer instruments. I do miss the obscure sounds I use to find with sampling, but now I’m on to something different and also fun. Plus original. Don’t have to be worried about clearing samples of other published and recorded work. ✊🏾

    • @AdamElteto
      @AdamElteto Рік тому +3

      Hear it for originality!

    • @Gboyrecords
      @Gboyrecords Рік тому +1

      What if u replay a sample do u still have to clear it?

    • @sagcap7927
      @sagcap7927 Рік тому +1

      @@Gboyrecords if you reply it and replay the melody. Yes! Because a composition is really the lyrics and melody. Sometimes riffs. But how the notes of the melody are phrased. Belongs to the original songwriter or composer.

  • @jboogzbeats
    @jboogzbeats Рік тому +49

    bro you don’t understand how helpful you’ve been throughout my entire time doing this music shit appreciate you🙌🏾

  • @TheTrueChrisA.K.
    @TheTrueChrisA.K. Рік тому +23

    Still use samples,
    but it's more a love of the game thing,
    as just keep 'em in the archives.
    Much respect & appreciation
    on what U do, Pain 🙏🏼🤲🏼✊🏼💯

    • @astroidroach1873
      @astroidroach1873 Рік тому +6

      🎯Same I make beat as a therapeutic realese when I’m stressed I jump on the mpc 🫡

    • @djquanta6748
      @djquanta6748 Рік тому +1

      💯 keep it underground. Respect the elements 👊🏿 #Nas

  • @jamesking6583
    @jamesking6583 24 дні тому +1

    The minute you start capitalizing off your music you have that eye on you. Great video on the music business. Keep being informative for the community brother. Appreciated☝️

  • @flip4253
    @flip4253 Рік тому +27

    Bro I wish to elevate in music production enough to even have these kind of problems 😭 but when I do I’ll be glad I heard this. Fr thanks for breaking off the knowledge and doing the footwork where I didn’t even know I needed to do

    • @darkemperor418
      @darkemperor418 Рік тому +7

      Best to back up your stuff with external hard drives. I've lost hard drives and I felt like I lost a part of myself that I could never get back.

    • @EarDrumBeatz
      @EarDrumBeatz Рік тому +3

      @@darkemperor418 this comment. Been four years bro but i havnt been the same ever since

    • @TKDmasterX
      @TKDmasterX Рік тому +1

      @@darkemperor418 Yep! more people should follow this. There's a saying along the lines of "If it's not in 3 places, it doesn't exist"

    • @darkemperor418
      @darkemperor418 Рік тому +1

      @@EarDrumBeatz I feel you bro 😭

    • @flip4253
      @flip4253 Рік тому

      @@darkemperor418 definitely bro thanks for the tip

  • @keejay12
    @keejay12 Рік тому +20

    We need more producers like Pain. Alot of these other producers scared or too egotistical to drop gems to help everybody especially those new to the business side. That's why I'm always here commenting and showing love because it's respect

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate your support

  • @beatbuildersstudio
    @beatbuildersstudio Рік тому +10

    Thanks for sharing the info. I don't use many samples in my music but it's good to understand clearance. I make music for television so I try to stay away from samples. It just makes it easier.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +5

      For synchs, absolutely, avoid sampling

  • @m.u.c.h.o.li.o
    @m.u.c.h.o.li.o Рік тому +3

    appreciate how real and transparent you are ,especially on this kind of topics, thanks Pain

  • @YoPaulieMusic
    @YoPaulieMusic Рік тому +6

    You are the truth teller in this community. Thanks for all that you do.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate that

  • @donroo6398
    @donroo6398 Рік тому

    💎💎 OG Pain 1! Good looks on the info!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Thank you so much, I appreciate that!!

  • @TheatreOfDelays
    @TheatreOfDelays 5 місяців тому +1

    can i get into trouble when i use loop to cut out samples(mostly drums) from splice?

  • @axmirmusic
    @axmirmusic Рік тому +4

    I just want to thank you on the behalf of all those that actually want to learn the business. WE appreciate you.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      Thank you 🙏🏽

  • @petejacobmusic9
    @petejacobmusic9 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this! So many songs on the radio today are interpolations of existing songs!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +4

      Yessir, which helps I guess because you don’t have the clearance fee working against your future royalties and it’s fun.

  • @xxreyoxx
    @xxreyoxx Рік тому +5

    Im not even a producer and find this information valuable to my music friends. Something to share when we choppin it up. Been a fan since Slaughterhouse's "Off Shore", good to see you being a life boat for the community.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! And that beat didn’t have samples in it

    • @xxreyoxx
      @xxreyoxx Рік тому +2

      @@DJPain1 oh im aware now, i admittedly always thought u did til i saw your breakdown. Masterful shit you put together man. Brought the pain, pun intended.

  • @jaybeillproductionz7245
    @jaybeillproductionz7245 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Pain for the info! I’m a very sample heavy producer myself so this video was definitely the one for me! I’m aware of the issues that may arise in the future so I definitely wanna educate myself a little bit now before I blow up haha.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Happy it was helpful!

  • @robertaguilar4162
    @robertaguilar4162 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all the gems. I think the hate comes from the fact that these people are good at something but they are finding out that there is a huge brick wall that may be un-climbable. Its better to know what they should do than catch one and not have shit to show for it.

  • @Kyduh
    @Kyduh Рік тому +4

    Thank you for putting us on so much game for so long man

  • @olivermunkholm1
    @olivermunkholm1 Рік тому +1

    Always appreciate your 2 cents Pain. Thanks!

  • @thie523
    @thie523 Рік тому +2

    Good looking out👍⛔

  • @simviciousmusic
    @simviciousmusic Рік тому +2

    Respect for this information DJ Pain, as an upcoming producer this is very helpful. It's better to create your own samples, but sometimes when you find something really nice on the internet and you reverse chop pitch, flip it up. It's sad to delete it just because it's not your own sample even if it doesn't sound like the original sample in any way, If I get sued or I don't receive any royalties because of sampled material I won't let that stop me from creating amazing music. Music should not be just for money or protection, most of all music is Art, Connection, Passion.

  • @hatibeats
    @hatibeats Рік тому +23

    There's some people that prefer to stay ignorant. Let them be

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +5

      I don’t really have a choice, you’re right

    • @threedeezmp
      @threedeezmp Рік тому +3

      Ppl are wierd yo

  • @TapDaddyBeats
    @TapDaddyBeats Рік тому +11

    Thank you for normalizing the use of sample packs. People don't understand, sample based production is still very much alive and well. It just looks different, and is much more accessible now.

  • @ryanregan00
    @ryanregan00 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate your knowledge and guidance.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @mikebysonart
    @mikebysonart Рік тому +7

    thanks for sharing. It's wild how unfair the legality of samples is. I could be wrong but I think it's because it's mostly labels that own the music. I bet if artists owned more of their music (which should be the case regardless) then we would see more freedom with sampling. Charging $10k for a sample that hasn't made any money yet is ridiculous. If you sample a song, you should only have to pay a percentage of the money you make, in my opinion. And that percentage should be decided by the artist who created the sample.

  • @ZoneyRegalBeats
    @ZoneyRegalBeats Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the education and info always dropping fire 🔥

  • @MrEllipsis423
    @MrEllipsis423 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate this video...I was going to ask about Splice but as I was writing this you started to break it down. Going to just use my own sounds and melodies from now on

  • @majormindsbeats7740
    @majormindsbeats7740 Рік тому +1

    Dj pain one your one of my mentors that really breaks things down not just the process of beat making but the business side thank you and others like ave mcree ,busy works beats, curtis king and many more thank youqq

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +2

      That’s an honor

  • @GA5aLaProd
    @GA5aLaProd Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this - It honestly astounds me the misinformation going around about sampling

    • @GA5aLaProd
      @GA5aLaProd Рік тому +1

      I even had one producer adamant that UA-cam clears it for you... Like W-T-F

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky Рік тому

      ​@@GA5aLaProd naw, man 🤣

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      @@GA5aLaProd 🤯

  • @AdamMundok
    @AdamMundok Рік тому

    You the realist. much love to you and thanks 🙏🏼 for sharing your wisdom (knowledge plus experience)

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @chadoworld
    @chadoworld Рік тому +31

    💯 As an individual who uses 100% samples from commercially released music you told zero lies!
    It absolutely makes sense to find alternatives to get your rightful share of your composition.
    It's just something about sampling commercially released music from vinyl that sonically is most appealing to me personally. But eventually I'm going to have to adapt for the business side to make sense! Salute for dropping gems! ✊🏾

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +11

      It’s sonically the most appealing to nearly everybody, the sound is unparalleled

    • @chadoworld
      @chadoworld Рік тому

      @@DJPain1 No doubt!

    • @fentanyljones6956
      @fentanyljones6956 Рік тому +1

      Same!

  • @MrJonblundmusic
    @MrJonblundmusic Рік тому

    I really appreciate you sharing info. Thank you man.

  • @chriskraves8301
    @chriskraves8301 Рік тому +1

    this is why your always in my top 10. always solid production always willing to lend a bit of your time to educate the masses. Keep it up

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      appreciate you watching

  • @MarcCeeOnTheBeat
    @MarcCeeOnTheBeat 10 місяців тому

    Been learning so much from ur vids man u be dropping gems

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  10 місяців тому

      Appreciate that 🙏🏽

  • @kickcloudstv
    @kickcloudstv Рік тому +2

    Great video, very informative on a topic that that is confusing to a lot of people. Thanks for sharing your experience
    Would be cool to hear you talk about the different ways royalty splits work, or how to hold your back up when negotiating/pricing your beats to sell to labels (though I know this might be very subjective). Especially hearing you prolly could have gotten 10k v 4k, there’s probably some jewels there

  • @4EverEvolving1
    @4EverEvolving1 Рік тому +1

    Just like quite a few of your videos, great content, explained very well for those of us that are new to all of this. There are a lot of aspects to trying to sell beats that are intimidating (only speaking for myself).
    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. This video is a gem.
    Peace...

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @VivaCoast
    @VivaCoast Рік тому

    Bro! I f#$% with the content. Knowledge and inspiration. You got a sub

  • @Cnova544
    @Cnova544 Рік тому +2

    Great video Fam!!! You drop some gems on this one!!!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for listening

  • @DJ_Sin1Luv
    @DJ_Sin1Luv Рік тому +1

    Thank you

  • @zakdahitmaker5286
    @zakdahitmaker5286 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the knowledge and keep up the good work. I'm loving the work you did on the song Out the barrel by Royce da 5'9

  • @drp111
    @drp111 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the valuable insights!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @bLiNdEDM
    @bLiNdEDM Рік тому

    Subbed to you finally. Im not really into hip hop or beatmaking persay but I do make sample packs for house producers. I love your takes on things and I feel taken care of after watching your videos

  • @rogerdjezddefreese1135
    @rogerdjezddefreese1135 Рік тому

    Nice job well explained ... Down to earth THE TRUTH HURTS

  • @wylatron
    @wylatron Рік тому

    Keep on speaking truth. Just because the fools don’t have the ability to process it, doesn’t make it your bad.
    Super useful information!

  • @carlosgil4196
    @carlosgil4196 Рік тому

    I like this concept you have great knowledge into this sampling now I know what I need to do if I ever decide to promote my own work thanks

  • @Pauly2Chill
    @Pauly2Chill Рік тому

    Knowledge is key! Thanks for the information. 👍

  • @mrshyst
    @mrshyst Рік тому +1

    I love how you break the truth down with comedy and in a tone that pisses ya haters off even more, don't ever stop bringing the real... I cannot thank you enough

  • @justam_ess
    @justam_ess Рік тому +1

    It's very disheartening that so many ignorant people are so mfn LOUD!!!
    I'm Forever Grateful for your gems and content, Pain... fr fr.. i've learned A LOT from you and the MEC

  • @zzzombyy2808
    @zzzombyy2808 Рік тому

    "Bloodpressure looked like an unmixed beat...." .hahah. Great man. Love you for that. I laughed my head off.

  • @teddyloet6731
    @teddyloet6731 Рік тому +3

    Thank GOD for Tracklib !!!

  • @markjackman1712
    @markjackman1712 Рік тому

    Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @smizzomgmt9957
    @smizzomgmt9957 Рік тому +2

    Pain I hope you still do sometimes,I've heard some fire sample beats from you.

  • @afrosymphony8207
    @afrosymphony8207 Рік тому +2

    This is why my chosen way of sampling is to rearrange and distort the original song so much its absolutely impossible to recognize where it came from. i've never sampled any stings songs and i'm definitely going to right now lool

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +5

      I mean best of luck

  • @1zeusthegod
    @1zeusthegod Рік тому +1

    I always listen to your stuff. Thanks for your input to the comminity. I started making beats using third party samples and I find making my own samples way more fun anyways! But if you make soul based beats it hits different digging into some old 70s soul records. The downsize is that it is hard to clear it.

  • @Hbargang
    @Hbargang Місяць тому +1

    OK, can you elaborate on what a SAMPLE is ? I use single shots from dawn stock sounds and as well as loopcloud single shots , I stop using loop samples and sampleling from songs because of this fear

  • @nelsonleeroy
    @nelsonleeroy Рік тому

    Going to our "rough mixes, pre-prod" folder to auto-sample ourselves could be a fun solution without any clearance issues...

  • @phatwave
    @phatwave Рік тому

    Thank you for explaining the Splice sample topic. I am using a lot of em and got a bit scared of not being able to upload some of them beats to CONTENT ID.

  • @cosmo5179
    @cosmo5179 Рік тому

    😂 the picture of the video ❤
    I learned from you to "create" my own samples with vinyl plugins and all other kinds of processing 😅

  • @DJL609
    @DJL609 Рік тому

    Thank You "Pain" Very Informative keep the content coming bro

  • @drenolynbeats
    @drenolynbeats Рік тому

    Once again spot on my brother. We appreciate you Pain 1!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      thank you for watching

  • @TheProducer77051
    @TheProducer77051 Рік тому +3

    They usually take it all, in most cases, because the sample wasn't cleared before its release. If you negotiate it ahead of time (assuming they allow you to use it at all) you will usually, in most cases, come out with a better outcome. that's been my experience. I definitely feel you because i stopped using samples as well. It only took seeing -42k for sample licsensing on my first royalty statement to change my approach, and this was in the early 90s

  • @mosai-music
    @mosai-music Рік тому +3

    Samples are for the pleasure of putting on vinyl and DJing out, or selling directly to fans. Underground. Non samples are for business! pitch and place and upload all day!

  • @taybucksbeats3927
    @taybucksbeats3927 Рік тому

    Great informative video , I've been avoiding using samples for about the last 3 weeks .

  • @johncollins3046
    @johncollins3046 Рік тому

    I appreciate the real examples and numbers 🎶

  • @IanJamesBeats
    @IanJamesBeats Рік тому

    Another great video man.

  • @i.q_music
    @i.q_music Рік тому +1

    Thanks bro, very helpful and informative

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +2

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @Psypher_sage
    @Psypher_sage Рік тому +1

    You earn a new subscriber cuz of this information❤❤❤❤

  • @ThabzTheeAnimator
    @ThabzTheeAnimator Рік тому

    I don't know how your video came up on my feed, but because of this info, Ima subscriber now, and wondering why I haven't been a subscriber before😁👍

  • @BLACKW3LLMUS1CK
    @BLACKW3LLMUS1CK Рік тому +1

    Great video as always!!! Thank you for all the useful info brother🙏

  • @killorfill6953
    @killorfill6953 Рік тому +1

    So good of you for posting this. Not enough professional producers talk about this. Using samples is fun until money gets involved. I'd stay off of twitter where possible :)

  • @joncjb
    @joncjb Рік тому

    Thank you !!

  • @xMaSSxHyST3RiA
    @xMaSSxHyST3RiA Рік тому +1

    I feel you bro. The game is f***** up now, the game is all f****** up now!!!!!!!!

  • @pedech
    @pedech Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing all this info.

  • @ThisIsVersatile
    @ThisIsVersatile Рік тому

    This was dope & informative 🫡

  • @fentanyljones6956
    @fentanyljones6956 Рік тому +1

    I’d love to hear your take on tracklib. I think it’s an amazing service. I’d like to see a lot more of certain styles of music on it but i think any producer could say that about any source including their own record collection.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      I have an interview with the founders on my channel

  • @mwdrum
    @mwdrum Рік тому

    A lot of good info there, I sold several thousand dollars of my drumtracks to Madlib, Bork, then it went dead. I’m looking more to nft options.

  • @sunrisingrecords6578
    @sunrisingrecords6578 Рік тому

    always great videos

  • @RicoGotThatFye
    @RicoGotThatFye Рік тому

    Great video! Very informative

  • @grantasticbeats
    @grantasticbeats Рік тому +1

    Saving this vid Pain to pass to artists when they ask why I won’t sample uncleared material for customs….very well explained!

    • @sontwisted
      @sontwisted Рік тому +2

      Theres a twist in here and its their job to clear the sample anyway so if they are willing sample away

    • @grantasticbeats
      @grantasticbeats Рік тому +1

      @@sontwisted I like to be upfront with them and they usually have no idea about how it works or what royalties may be taken away from them

  • @JRegoMusic
    @JRegoMusic Рік тому

    Great video bro thank you for this 🤜🏽🤛🏽💯🙏🏽🔥

  • @scottrim143
    @scottrim143 Рік тому

    love the video

  • @OneWangMusic
    @OneWangMusic Рік тому

    thanks for this

  • @juhxofficial
    @juhxofficial Рік тому

    thanks for the knowledge og

  • @michaelsmith4498
    @michaelsmith4498 Рік тому

    To the point knowledgeable inspirational insightful and informative need to know facts. Continue leading to the water Pain a lot of us are drinking

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @daerriznoize-hardcore
    @daerriznoize-hardcore Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @realballplayer200
    @realballplayer200 Рік тому +1

    keep sharing so producers like me can avoid legal problems

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      Absolutely 🙏🏽

  • @IamElijahHarvey
    @IamElijahHarvey Рік тому

    I feel like this was a DTP record what was your first placement? Was it that sample? I think I was around that time bro. Happy to see you winning.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому

      ?

    • @IamElijahHarvey
      @IamElijahHarvey Рік тому

      @@DJPain1 It's me "LX" I met you through DTP If I recall lol I thought it was a placement for Small World or Luda. I could be wrong and I meant to say FOR DTP

  • @aalonboots
    @aalonboots Рік тому

    I tried to use a loop from my software in a beat. Facebook muted it, smh

  • @snaggletooth1881
    @snaggletooth1881 5 місяців тому

    it's crazy how many intricacies are involved in copyright laws ... I recently watched an interview with a well-known producer. He spoke on another producer regarding sampling.... apparently some producers just say FCK IT and just hope for the best ..... idk... I think that's kinda dope.

  • @T1C3
    @T1C3 Рік тому

    I used one sample and never got caught, but if it ever caught steam they can have it. It's best not to do it or deal with any thing that you cant call your own. Its a a headache, so the community appreciates the samples you create from scratch.

  • @DjchizzleBeatz
    @DjchizzleBeatz Рік тому

    Bro please do more videos about this subject a lot of producers do not have a clear ideal about this me included

  • @MJ10K_TMTR
    @MJ10K_TMTR Рік тому

    It’s so much hate out here bro. Once you get to a certain level all you want to do is provide info & build with others. Keep going Pain thanks for continuing to share your journey & wisdom🤘🏾

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      It’s crazy how many stones they throw at the people handing them food

  • @ADMBeatz
    @ADMBeatz Рік тому

    🎯💯

  • @TheArchersTungsten
    @TheArchersTungsten Рік тому

    When everyone started rocking the korg keyboards in the early 2000s and dumped sampling the beats were sounding crap for awhile before the majority of samples came back.

  • @nothingbeatsproducing4750
    @nothingbeatsproducing4750 Рік тому +3

    Pain, if you made an E book for producers about the music business, I would buy it.📒

  • @allinonethegreat
    @allinonethegreat Рік тому

    Only 2 minutes in and the valuable information you gave is tremendous

  • @smtbeats3674
    @smtbeats3674 Рік тому

    This is the day I decide to get out of samples. Thank you bro

  • @succanproduce
    @succanproduce Рік тому

    Just saw Royce had one of your beats up. Thats sick. 👊

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  Рік тому +1

      I did most of the beats on his new album

    • @succanproduce
      @succanproduce Рік тому

      @@DJPain1 He's dope. Thats awesome man, congrats. Ill check it out.