Yes, the 2023 Lexus LS 500 F Sport is Nearly $88,000: Here's Why That's an Awesome Deal!
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2023
- ( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The Lexus LS has a reputation as a solid luxury limousine, but this F Sport changes things up a bit by offering a compromise that leans toward handling and being more fun to drive. At $88,000, this LS 500 isn't "cheap", but it is a bargain against the competition. Nathan explains why in this review!
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In 1991 an LS 400 sticker price was $44,100 which today is nearly $100K. So yes..88K is probably not bad.
base price was like $36k
@@tinhinnh still great value!
was a game changer in 91 ahead of the competition & time now its middle of the pack at best
@@B86432it was reliable and cheaper than the germans, thats how it got started. it wasnt bc its the fastest or best handling
@@tinhinnh Wrong, reliability wasn't known from day one. The original LS400 had a few recalls at first, but that isn't the point. The point is that the original LS400 provided the same or a better experience than a 420SEL for the price of price of a 190E 2.6 or 300E. The LS500 is more reliable then the Germans, and the S and 7 outsell it. Reliability isn't enough nor was the only thing the original car made it's claim on.
For an even better deal pick up a 2-3 year old version of the LS (same body style as the new model)with under 30k miles for around $45-50. Saw several nice examples in my area in that price range.
There are quite a few LS460s at 100k miles for around 10,000.00, which is about where the 430s have been at for over 5 years
Definitely the way to go!
Make you sure you get the 2021 or later. There are few issues with 2018-2020
@@beekaye1496 yeah, I am now thinking what my next car will be in a couple years after my son goes off to college. A 2-3 yo LC500H or LS500 F Sport. Currently I am leaning toward the LC, still missed my 94 SC400 I had a long time ago.
that is crazy!! a 2-3 year old LS in the UK is still £65-70k
This is a gorgeous machine in and out. Will outlast any other luxury sedan. Can't go wrong with it
LOL, yet it's being run out of the market. Lasting isn't enough when you're years behind in the everything else.
Priced cheaper than a similar Audi, Mercedes, BMW and Jaguar. But it is as good - and will outlive all those 4 moneypits.
fax!
It has one problem that people spending this kind of money have a problem with. The badge on the front doesn’t make the same statement in the car park, the club, the office, or the driveway. Plus it looks like a big ass Camry.
but it is not as good. Still very much worth it since it's cheaper.
@@toxin7883with blacked out emblems it will keep ppl guessing with what you’re driving
Outlast all 4 combined 🤣💯
Awesome underappreciated machine; and if you have one you will not see them all over the place like you do with S class and seven series. And unlike those, this one will be trouble free and last a very long time
Gotta love it. Once the best seller, now it’s under appreciated lol. No it’s an also ran, that has been passed by the completion years ago. That is why it doesn’t sell anymore. Lexus is not under appreciated. This car is no bargain either, the G90 is.
@@MercOne and the g90 is a better car
@@naveenthemachine lmao in what world???
@@naveenthemachine Who paid you to say that??!
@@allentoyokawa9068 So tell me where the LS beats the competition besides reliability, I'll wait.
The original LS 400 and the Infiniti Q45 were baller vehicles. In the late 80s & early 90s, if you were a rapper, you had to have one of these cars or a Ac Legend coupe, preferably. Times changed as people's money got longer and the price of a S Class or 7 series pushed farther away from the LS. People wanted cars that others couldn't afford, and the LS was affordable on a good lease deal as customers left for Bentleys and RRs. The LS appeals to me still as a reliable family car with elegant style.
LMAO Lexus has never had Bentley and RR customers in a chokehold. Let's be serious.
@uberenthusiasts yes they did thats why RR and Bentley went into mass production, look up the original ls 400 , it shook up the whole auto industry
Factssssss 😊
his reviews are the most honest and genuine. he's never lead me wrong in terms of a purchase.
45k is the difference between this and the S CLASS
I just had to laugh at that comment. The price difference is a rav4 !
@@Anti-socialSocialClubfully loaded too!
That's crazy!
And that Mercedes turd will fall apart once its 3 year life span is over
@@awareofvacuity4238 Do you think a 2023 Genesis G70 3.3T will hold up over time with proper maintenance and no mistreatment? I'm a Honda and Lexus guy but really like the g70. Thoughts?
Nice review, thanks for taking us along! I prefer smaller cars, but I like seeing it glide down the road.
I always appreciate your reviews Nathan.
You guys really know what a good car should feel, drive and sound....and look.... one of my favourite car channels on UA-cam...thanks ....
Great job with this review of the LS!
I have owned 3 versions of this car including their hybrid models and they are my favorite luxury cars. Having the solid reliability, quality and power but still comfortable are all wins for me.
Great review of a great car! My only complaint is that they chose to NOT use the infamous 5.0L naturally aspirated V8, the same one used in the LC500. That could have made this the perfect ride.
true. 100%
Rear tires should've been made a lil bit wider.
True dat
On the other hand, the TTv6 is set up for quick torque off the line, and it pulls around 30mpg highway. The v8's torque doesn't really snap to until your foot's into the pedal quite a ways. I think they did the right thing by the car and how it'll be driven BUT it cost Lexus the "prestige" of being in the "big v8 sedan club". I think the 460's v8 was tuned a bit differently than the current 5.0.
Awesome car!!! Best in class!
No it’s not. Literally nobody agrees with you
Nathan, thanks for a great review! Have a ‘20 LS500 F-Sport rwd and love it! Beautiful evolution from my ‘08 LS460. Still assembled in the Tahara factory, these vehicles are solid, reliable, well thought-out, and fun to drive! They’re just so superior in every way!
Love the way you do the review guy no BS. I love the most Jeff 😂
I had a 91 LS ! loved that car ! It was so comfortable
I’d buy it it’s reliable and will long for a very long time
4:00 0-60 4.6 secs
6:00 One of the best all around rides
11:30 Infotainment; dash
16:30 Better than the axed GS
Also Nathan they don’t pip the noise in through speakers there’s just a simple induction pipe at the firewall. 😊
88K is a bargain for this class of luxury sedan!
116k for base model S class 😅
@@mez6256 Yes and the S class has inferior build quality, durability and reliability compared to the Lexus.
@@electrikoptik to be fair those purchasing an S-Class new wont really have to deal with any of that though.
@@ALMX5DP They will have to deal with the car being in the repair shop. That's a minor inconvenient.
@@electrikoptik maybe once in their ownership, likely being given a pretty sweet loaner in the process.
For the price it’s a good deal
Always like the subdued styling (inside and out) of Lexus sedans. One issue I have is from 25 feet away, is it an LS or an ES?
Yes and that’s every luxury brand. Look at a c class e class and s class and you’ll do a double take or two as well 😅🤷🏾♀️☺️
@@LafemmebearMusic Clearly not every luxury brand. The BMW 3 and 7 don't look alike in the least.
ls 2016-2017
@marcusjj1973 what about the BMW 5 & 7 series?
@@curtisames3554 Have you seen both of them? You should be able to answer that yourself.
Agree, great value!
Liked the ‘20 and older headlights more, subtle z pattern that really beautifully blended w/ the sheet metal.
I have a 2001 and is the nicest car I own, I prefer it over newer vehicles.
I’ll never forgive Lexus for not giving this the 5.0 NA V8 from the LC!! Or the iforce max power train found in some Toyotas.
nothing wrong with over 400hp/400lbft tq
That is a sweet car! In the UK the LS starts at £89,000! Seems like a good deal in the states!!
Almost 90k is still a lot of $$ but its still far less than the big 3 (or 4 if you incl genesis); and peace of mind is priceless..
I love this car and I love ur interview 👍
I have the ls460 Fsport…great road car (I drive a lot …in sales)…love the new ones..but I’ll drive my V8 until it won’t go anymore. Same sentiments for the last generation. You get the appearance package, better brakes, tires, and option package. It’s the sporty upgrade to the lux-o-barge. I love it.
I had the same car drive till about 140k sold it to a private guy who basically was after me to sell it. Bought a gsf because I just love that v8 . But I do like these ls500s out of the box they handle and perform amazing that’s one of my gripe with the the ls460 just a little soft but again absolutely AmZing cars. I had 0 issues with it it was more reliable than my older 05 ls430
I drove mine today after 4 months in the garage. Washed and waxed it yesterday. What a beautiful day and a super clean luxury car out for a ride. What more could you want 🏖️
i had the LS 400 1995 growing up and it was an amazing ride!! Sadly I dont think i'll ever get a new gen LS in my lifetime with the prices.
do not give up my friend 👍.
I have a 2021 LS mica blue w/ white leather. The car is truly a SCRE AMING bargain. It looks and rides like a dream🏖️
The suspension does change it has adaptive dampers I know cus I own one 😊 that’s why those corners come better when you put it in spot plus
What's spot +?
@@allanb3222a typo 😂lol you knew that ya dork
I had a GS so I know this car is amazing.
I still have one and it’s the awd f sport and I live on mountain roads 😊sooooo much fun and then so cushy when I want it to be 😊
The GS is a very nice vehicle and they always have classic styling.
Same here. 2013 Nebula Gray, FSport.
beautiful car
I would really like to see how the LS500 f sport and inspiration measure up against the LS 600H L executive package. From on ending era 2015 to the new one will say 2022-2023 modles. Still will take the LS 600HL over the new models.
Non-luxury brands have gotten so expensive these days that Lexus no longer feel expensive and a really good deal, especially the Lexus ES.
The ES is just a tarted up Camry
@@naveenthemachine since 2013 the past two generations of ES have been based off the larger Avalon. Much nicer with huge legroom.
@@chrishackworth3182 but the Avalon has always been based off the Camry…
Yes, but the fact remains that it is a "tarted up Avalon". That's what I've even called mine in the past. My 94 ES300 was indeed a "tarted up Camry"
The Avalon(now discontinued) is longer, wider, and lower than a Camry, has a longer wheelbase, larger interior and trunk, as well as fuel tank.
Just look at other manufacturers as they share platforms and engines. Take VW/Audis MQB platform for example. It would be a little disingenuous to call a Q3 a tarted up Audi A1 or A3(mqb), as it's currently based on the longer(mqb) VW Tiguan.
Lexus/Toyota use that 3.5L in many vehicles to save $ and because it's smooth and reliable.
Both our 14 RX and 13 ES have that 3.5L V6 with 430k combined trouble free miles. Completely different story with our previous, and slightly more fun to drive, MB's and BMW's. My next daily Lexus will be an LS.
That headrest is killing me!
Excellent review! We boomers ❤it!
Even the oilcheck stick is something physical and reliable!
Was a passenger in the middle of the back seat a few times in an LS 500, and it was not a good experience. The driveline hump is huge and kills any foot room for the middle passenger. That low head room the Nathan mentioned in even worse in the middle position since it's elevated compared to the outboard positions. This is really a 4 seater. If looking to haul a 5th passenger, look elsewhere.
your fault for sitting there
Lol nobody is searching for 5 seater LS
Very reasonable for what you get. Econobox Volvo 40 EV priced at 62k just for comparison.
These depreciate like crazy so I might scoop one in 4-5 years
They don't depreciate any more or less than your house.
BEST LUXURY LIMOUSINE EVER 🤔👍🏻LEXUS THE PERFECTION
This car a is big Meh, with no v8 option
Lexus cars always get better with age
If you buy this used, it is a bargain. Won't break the bank like the Benz even if out of warranty , therefore priceless peace of mind. Super quality interior, extremely comfortable (this car floats on harsh pavement), but also surprisingly maneuverable in the twisties.
I like the fact that you don't see many on the road. Go ahead, be mainstream., I'll be the exception 😉
A Lexus is just as expensive to fix as a German luxury brand.
@@clearcut6818 but will it break as often as the Germans? 😃
I really don't like what the Germans have done to their latest offerings in this class. I'd certainly look at this and the new G90. Both offer great quality, performance, reliability, and value.
The new twin turbo scoots pretty good, just can’t replace the harmonious melancholy of their V8
Also, at the price point....its like having a fat wife
Jeff looks really comfortable to me
real buttons! why we love Lexus. aside from 10 other reasons
Next spring, all black LS 500 f sport
Lovely car for that price
I'm considering the Kia K900 (hate the name) for it's overall amenities,design & bargain pricing @ 65k! Love the understated look, the refinement,& the interior design coming from a Korean brand competing with the big boys for less dough @ 20k!! This Lexus is nice by all means but that front grille (spindle design) just doesn't gel with the overall theme to me compared to the smaller F versions,the RCF or the IS F particularly. How does the Kia's overall quality & maintenance issues stack up,well hopefully there's a comparison test out there soon to review by these guys Roman or Nathan or both for that matter! BMW, Mercedes & Audi better not fall asleep at the wheel if they know what's good for them,by the way c'mon Cadillac your presence is definitely missing from the luxury automobile segment since discontinuing the CT6/XT6 especially the Blackwing version!
Try spending time at a Kia dealership and get back to me on the value proposition. A BIG part of the purchase of a Lexus is the dealership experience. I would not consider a Kia/Genesis as a premium vehicle until they invest in stand-alone premium dealership experiences.
@@grisa12345 Well you do know you have to crawl before you walk & Hyundai & Kia are doing just that considering there time in the industry. It's just a matter of time until their entire franchise go upmarket providing better service & quality befitting of an automotive company. I just think they're giving more bang for your buck which to me is an excellent form of competitiveness.
@@justmy2cents_ Not necessarily true. Tesla walked first by building out a supercharger network before they owned the EV market because they knew it would be a smart investment. If the Koreans want to be taken seriously in luxury they need to understand the experience from A-Z, making a great car isn’t enough.
@@grisa12345 Ok and Tesla also had major major issues that continue today.Vehicle catching fire, autopilot issues, software update issues & also some interior quality issues that at the current asking price shouldn't be an issue but it is because of growing pains trial by "fire" the crawl before you walk scenario. Kia keeps it simple but sophisticated especially with the K900 & their latest EV EV6 plus with their industries best warranty 5yr or 60,000 limited warranty/10yrs or 100,000 on power train you can actually relax much easier. But to each his own, that's why they have numerous amounts of automobiles to choose from my friend.
Baller baller!!
The maintenance schedule is really close to a RX 350. The service cost is just a little more.
88k and bargain does not belong in the same headline, people have lost their freaking minds paying these prices, The car companies won’t be getting any on my money until prices and interest are more reasonable.
Love it
But can I plug in my iPod?
The run flats are horrible. Switched mine out for normal Continental tires. Made a huge difference. So much better.
Are the Continental's noticeably quieter after the switch out?
Same
@@GMacIIyes. A lot. That’s the main reason I switched out.
Would you rather get this or a used BMW M8 Grand Coupe for around the same price?? This is a nice car but I’d take the M8. It’s more updated and more power!
Lexus is far better, and German cars are endless money pits
@@GeoBob-xf3hh True 👋
I would rather have a LC500 with less headaches.
The LS is not a sport sedan. It's never been a sport sedan and was never intended to be one. I don't know why it's trying to be one now. It's sad that it's not the elegant, dignified V8 luxo-barge that it was originally intended to be. Flagship luxury sedans have become really odd though. You've got the 7-series that looks like an army tank, the S-class whose interior looks like a tacky Vegas casino, and now this LS trying to be a sport sedan. Weird times we live in. The automotive symbols of affluence just seem so unclassed and undignified nowadays, which I find odd. Maybe it's a difference between new money versus old money.
Well at least they have their respective niches covered. And I think it’s just a matter of being with the times and reflecting the target markets they’re in. That said I do want Toyota to bring over the Century as their or Lexus’ flagship. Will never buy one but just seeing more of them would make me smile.
@@ALMX5DP I agree. I think they're covering their demographics and it's reflective of the times we live in. I just find it sad and uncompelling that this is what affluence looks like today.
And that change of course is in part why it doesn't sell anymore. The interior is tight, the ride isn't as smooth as before and the loss of the V8 all caused people to walk. They made a critical error in leaving the previous LS460 on the market for so long allowing the competition to leave them behind by a generation. They may as well do what Audi is doing with the A8, make the next LS an EV an just start over.
The Genesis G90 is a traditional luxury vehicle. However, I personally still like the LS500.
@@350zlover2 I totally forgot about the G90. It's perhaps the most old-school big traditional luxury car around under $100k. A very elegant design. I personally like it, though that enormous Superman grill is kinda gross.
That 🐻 in the back seat 🤣
Having the same engine like in 4runner is certainly better than having engine from rangerover😂
The current 4Runner doesn’t have this new twin turbo engine but I hear what you’re saying definitely
DONT GROW UP ! Have fun YOLO
But it’s 30k more than its stablemate ES which itself is a good car and comfortable. So hard to justify this one even at its bargain price. That’s probably why in 9 months driving a lot on the interstates in Florida I’ve only seen one.
It's just not as luxurious as the S Class or A8.
Make my LS in Nori Green with a buckskin tan interior and I think I will drive it to my grave ☠️💀
Will pick one up in 5 years or so when it’s significantly cheaper 😊
Love this car, but I'm unable to appreciate the tail lights. It reminds me too much of an Altima. The old tail lights were better looking imo.
Too bad it’s so slow compared to the competition
It may go into park automatically when you shut the car off.
Lexus has announced a twin turbo V8 in the near future - Who knows, maybe it will end up in the LS as well?!
You are years behind. No such engine is coming. It was cancelled YEARS ago.
@@MercOne Okay 😮💨
@@MercOnewrong. it will be in the new LFA. try again
@@tinhinnh Wrong, the LFA replacement is an EV. Try again. The TT V8 was cancelled long time ago per industry rumors. Unless you have something that shows otherwise?
@@MercOne Wrong. new LFA is being tested at the Ring now with hybrid TT V8, check out the vids
If you don't care about the newest tech and plan on keeping the car this is the perfect alternative to the germans.
looks like the ES
Doesn't get any better than this for the price!
Yeah it does lol
G90 g80 5 series e class I can go on LOL
@@naveenthemachinewhich all of those do not compare to the reliability of Lexus
@@evansilander9418 who cares about reliability at 100K?
Oh yeah no one 😆
Better luck next time
@@naveenthemachine nobody wants to be stuck at the side of the road after they have spend lots of money on a car. Much rather have a car that I don’t have to worry about breaking down leaving you stranded. Your Genesis will blow up leaving you have to spend more money
@@evansilander9418 most people lease these kinds of cars. And they don’t keep it for long. Plus a genesis Mercedes bmw won’t break down that soon
I hate run-flat tires...
This is a RWD right???
Only rwd.
I'd rather get 540i instead. Same kind performance better fuel consumption. Better looking. Better price. So many better.
0-60 is not 4.6 seconds. It’s more like 5.2
You got it backwards ,the tundra has a Lexus engine.
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Sorry Nathan. The Genesis G90 and S-class are in a different league.
I think I prefer the Lexus LS over the Toyota Camry I know the Lexus LS is competing against the Mercedes and BMWs but I think the Lexus LS is the nicer looking car then the Camry and it should be for $88,000
Seems like a good deal but I can’t afford 88k.
Nathan never grow up! Don't listen to the old farts!
Nathan, you need to answer the question of why, after decades of owner loyalty, no one more loyal than a Lexus owner, then why oh why did that demographic run away? 2022 sales were no more than 280 units/mo in the US. I submit for your consideration "it's the ride." None of the reviewers address the difference between the previous LS generations vs. your 2018-2023? "It's the ride" that the target demographic is using for buy or no buy. The runflats are the reason that buyers have fled. I'm not talking about non-demographic-buyers...they wouldn't be buying anyway. "It's the ride."
Over priced cars and SUV days are over brother
I can’t believe it cost less than the Germans . Crazy
That sticker price is nothing realistically that’s a 100k car and you know what else’s that I can get from Lexus around that price point an LX, GX or Landcruiser… you have to be crazy to spend that much on just a car….especially from a boss move perspective.
6'8 looks like I can't fit inside
It's crap at $88k. Genesis has several models $15k cheaper with better features. Jaguar F Pace is cheaper and nicer. My sister in law had a LS500 and it was at the dealer getting repairs several times a year.
Very few billionaires are tall, check it …. So it’s perfect
Since when did Lexus cost less than Kia, I meant Huyndai, sorry I mean Genesis.
It's a gas guzzler and slower than all compition, still very nice but no. An e is it a bargain
Today, it’s irrelevant all the good comments / narrative to a huge audience when it comes to any vehicle with a 60k price tag and over. Let’s be realistic people.
Nope , , ,
For $80,000, you can buy a used LC500.
Best care Lexus has made to date (with possible exception of LFA)
That screen is hideous. It's a very obvious afterthought. It doesnt fit with the design at all.
who the hell thinks spending 80k on a Hyundai makes any logic?
Far superior to ANY European brand... Also, you will happily still be driving it in 20 years with 250k miles on it!