I’ve just picked up the p line and I can feel the difference for sure between sufix pro mix and the p line Fluor clear. I’m also from north Indiana as well!
I love to impart fishing knowledge, but I spent so much money on line because I used to fish at least 2-3 days per week during the warm weather months years ago. As a writer I'm always typing away at home now-lol. Thanks again.
I tried alot of different lines.... tried mono, fluro, braid....my favorite..copolymer. I keep the braid for top water...the rest I go full on copolymer. I've tried many copolymer brands..some are very expensive and found the one that works for me is dirt cheap.
What line are you using . Memory is really bad with copolymer lines. P line ccx is really strong and abrasion resistance . But the memory is almost unbearable .
Copolymer is hands down my favorite line. I like the suffix tritanium. Your right about detecting hits. When I'm using rippin raps I will catch 4 to 1 in terms of numbers of fish using raps compared to my buddies who aren't using it. It also a great main line for my steelhead center pin rod.. problem for me is nobody carries it near me and I've always been reluctant to buy a bulk spool thinking it would go bad before I've gotten through the spool.
Ralph Barton, I've never seen the Sufix Titanium on shelves by me, or what's left of store shelves in 2018-lol. You can buy a bulk spool and keep it in a ziplock type bag. I keep my line in the basement in a cool spot. Line will last indefinitely when stored like that. You can rest assured you won't waste money on that bulk spool. Thanks for the continued support. Let me know if you've got any questions.
Tate Jackson thanks for the feedback. I agree about the proline. It's hard to get good quality fishing line for an economical price. I'm glad you found the video informative. Take care.
hey Frank thanks for the review I bought a spool each of 6 lb 8 lb and 12 lb P-line. Seems pretty good so far. I didn't check the specs but the diameter is narrower than the seaguar fluorocarbon i was fishing before.
Thanks Frank!! I'm from the Old school on Line!! Have been using Ande Tourney Green 4 over 30 years on both Inshore & Offshore Reels with Xcellent results. Tried Braid & got fed up with Wind Knots & having 2 use Albright or Blood Knots 4 L 2 L connections. Reely didn't know a Co-Polymer existed. Great Info...I'll check it out!! Liked & Subscribed.....
Thanks for subbing back. I worked in a ma and pa tackle shop years ago. Ande was a very popular Lake Michigan and tributary trout/salmon line. Now it really isn't, but it's still the best fresh/saltwater bulk monofilament ever made. I'll check out some more of your videos.
Thomas Drelich, I was unaware of this line. Berkley pioneered some truly great lines throughout the decades and I believe when I hear positive feedback regarding their lines. Take care.
It’s relatively new evolution of copolymer line . Just released last year. I tried the vanish fluorocarbon and didn’t like it. You can buy a 3000 yard spool of the fluroshield for 55 direct from Berkeley . I use 6lb for trout fishing
@@THOMASDRELICH thanks for the feedback on the fluroshield. I know Vanish was the first fluorocarbon line I saw. They may not have changed the formula much.
Greetings from north central Indiana, Just bought some silver thread AN40 as my first copolymer and I hope it can perform better than my trilene xl I use for my ultralight creek setup. (4lb)
My experiance with sensation is its junk i have tryed 30 knots with it and they all break when i tye knots with the old trilene green line the nots dont break
I also liked cabelas products. I didn't use the Proline because it was a little bit thick, but Cabelas Salt Striker line was amazing before BPS took over. It was super thin diameter, very strong, for the diameter. I really wonder what line it was or whose shop it came from. A few years ago that salt striker line became thicker and I suspect it was rebranded Ande line. Unfortunately, it seems that basspro is basically gutting the business and its products.
Bravo old chap at last someone and it's an American brother whose got sense keep your braid and give it to the old girl to construct a nice pair of boxers for those cold days we have here in good old England that's what I say. Brainwashed braid users whatever next,ROPE,mind you we're famous here for ROPE in Portsmouth,home of the royal navy.So glad you brought this up my friend c'mon you copolymer and c'mon u spurs. Regards Rob from good old blighty. 👍
Rob, thanks for the feedback. The main use for braid by me in the Midwest is for fishing for musky. You don't want to cast 80 lb. mono w/ heavy lures, otherwise I see your point. Thanks for viewing!
Been thinking about trying a different line, I don't have a lot of vegetation so braid is not what I'm looking at, how is the detection of light bites in copolymer compared to monofilament?
Jay Wack the quality control on Sufix is phenomenal. It's a remarkable even, smooth, and consistent line. I've spooled thousands of yards over almost 11 years. You should be very pleased w/ the line. Take care, & thanks for commenting & viewing.
-I've fished with Trilene XT & XL my entire life. About 10 yrs ago I switched to braid and now I've become "one of those guys" that cannot move away from it. I will use fluorocarbon as a leader in certain applications, but I know that I need to spool at least one reel with a non-braid line. There are so many lures that "require" it. My intention next season is to spool my Shimano Curado DC 6.2:1 with a non-braid line for crankbaits, etc. I'll probably go with 10 or 12 lb. I'm not concerned with economy. I want one of the best. What I'm looking for, in order are: Limpness Thickness Strength Can you recommend something? My first instinct after watching your video is to give the Trilene Sensation a try.
@@NorthernMike Trilene Sensation's a great line, and has remained unchanged for many years. The Trilene XT is much limper than in the past, and a line I always recommend on a baitcasting reel. Straight Fluorocarbon is not abrasion resistant and can snap if rubbed against. The P-Line fluorocarbon coated coplolymer line is what they use for salmon & trout (almost exclusively) by me in the creeks.
@@frankracz6736 -I have a Gander Outdoors in my area that is going out of business. 60% off everything. Needless to say, I've been there 3 times in the last 10 days. I picked up the P-Line that you mentioned in 12 lb. (said fluoro on front, copolymer on back so I assume it's the same). I think I'll give this a whirl on the baitcaster unless you can think of reasons why it wouldn't be a good idea.
Welcome to te “trend “. I’ve been running yo-Zuri hybrid for 20 years now on everything that isn’t braid, which for me is only the frog rod and the punch rod.
For economy copolymer line the Bass Pro Excel has bulk spools, but I haven't fished it. In mono economy Berkley Big Game is an old standby, or Ande. I've fished those. I hold onto my receipts, and return line if I'm dissatisfied.
@@frankracz6736 might have to try that excel co-polymer then. Not a fan of mono at all. Braid and co-polymer for me. Thanks for the help man, I appreciate it 👍
Hey anytime-they call me the "lineologist" at work-lol-I even know fly line. There's a lot-really-of misinformation on line, and it's such a critical link, and most folks don't have time to experiment & want to use the right line the 1st time out.
So....do they still make the pro line? Not seeing it on cabelas site. Struggling to figure out best situation for spinning. Me and my 9yr old been crappie fishing with lighter weight jigs and such. I use 30-50lb braid on all my baitcasters and have the spinning reeels also set up with 20lb braid. Love being able to tie on differnt leaders. But just can’t get the casting distance on the spinning with this lighter weight tackle. Sometimes if we’re using a weighted bobber it’s ok. But just the jig by itself it doesn’t go too far. Been really struggling with line twists and such with pure mono or fluoro. Tired that and lived the cast ability but just always ends up in a knotted disaster. Yeah we flip the bail by hand...next time I spool I’m going to do the thing where you flip the spool over as you see twists forming. Previously I’ve only did “label up” technique so maybe that was the problem.
Oddly enough they discontinued the Pro Line after the video was made. P-Line would be the next closest equivalent, higher price but higher quality line. Lighter rigging involves many variables, the spool size and design, length, action, and parabola (bend) in the rod, and line choice. Braid has no stretch and isn't the best choice for distance. Try Berkley Trilene XL for this. It's still probably the best handling line/best casting distance option on the market for the buck. Bear in mind you'll have to change it more than copolymer and much more than braid, but it's great for lighter rigging. Take care.
Todd if the question is if copolymer line is good for either spinning or casting it's the most versatile line for both in most freshwater situations where heavy test isn't required. As for the Berkley line I've never tried it or heard feedback. Thanks for watching!
Copolymer is fine for still fishing. No, it does not sink. Fluorocarbon line sinks yet offers less abrasion resistance than copolymer. Hope that helps.
jeohavany delgado, co-polymer line doesn't float. The only non-fluorocarbon line that floats to my knowledge was a line called Hydrofloat by P-line. Thanks for the view & the compliment. If you have any questions feel free to ask, and good fishing.
Does copolymer line float? I want to throw topwater plugs & shallow diving cranks. I fish rivers off my kayak and one rod has to to have multiple uses.
Hey man! Quick Q I just got pline CXX recently switched from braid with a floro leader. Does this line sink? It has almost no stretch and feels real dense! Thanks for any input !
That's such a great question. I guess it's no longer made but was a top recommending pick by a great bass angler to me years ago. Yes, it was copolymer.
Derek Smith that's a good question. I believe Copolymer line sinks only a bit faster than mono from my experience. Fluorocarbon line would sink much faster than copolymer-same weight. I hope that helps.
I have some Cabelas ProLine Premium Copolymer. Is this the same as the Pro Line you are talking about? I bought this on a closeout a few years ago. 7,900 yards 6lb. made in Indonesia. Needless to be said, I have a lot left to used !
james lyman your line is different. I've never used it. I believe it was made by P-LIne, like the line I showed. If you're not keeping it in a zip bag away from heat and sun then do that to prolong the life of your line.
james lyman, Copolymer or mono line will deteriorate over time if not enclosed in a sealed bag. Usually if you run your hands over the line and it's a bit rough than it's certainly bad.
Dazmon3434 Berkley nano filament is good for a few reasons. The fibers that comprise the line are stronger than steel per diameter, like Fireline, except nano filament is much thinner. It's only recommended for spinning reels. The only downside is I've heard because it's so thin it can dig into a spool. I've never fished it personally, but have sold it since it came out around 6 years ago. Thanks.
What would you say is the best copolymer line ? I wanted to try p line cxx but I heard it retains a lot of memory not sure if that’s true ? It’s for a baitcaster btw. Thanks in advance!
As I referenced in the prior post, the cxx should offer superior abrasion resistance. If you're spooling it on a baitcaster the memory issue isn't going to be anywhere as pronounces compared to spinning gear. W/ the baitcasting gear you may be looking for abrasion resistance against trees and vegetative edges, that way you won't be changing as much line. You certainly don't want thin diameter line on baitcasting, as it can dig in. I'd say the cxx 10 lb. or higher should be a good pick, but let me know if you need anything else. Thanks!
Frank Racz thank you bro appreciate it ! Bought some 10 pound line and when out to try it it cast very well and the memory isn’t as bad as people say lol I guess they were using spin gear or they’re just cry babies I like the line so far !
I haven't tried Sufix advance, but no doubt it's good line. As I probably mentioned in the video, it may be a bit thicker than other brands, but the Sufix I've casted handled very well. The brand is also very abrasion resistance, and offers a real controlled stretch.
East Texas Bass that's a good question. I always use low vis-green for my fishing. Berkley makes Transopic line that's orange above the water. P-Line makes a mint color across. Those are the dual color lines I'm aware of. I hope that answers the question.
I have used copolymer line for 40 years. Silver Thread came out in the 70s and I discovered it at Kmart back then. I tried it because the Kmart line was so shitty. As my experience and techniques got better I tried the Silverthread. It was a great line and kept with it for ever. It didn't catch on until about the late 90s. I used to buy 3000 yard spools for respooling back then for $12 from Cabelas. Once folks found out how well it performed it went to $60 for 3000 yard spools at Cabelas. I think the only SilverThread left is AN40 I have used Silver Thread, McCoy and Cajun Red which are all copolymers. The Cajun Red is so cheap but works great for times you are introducing kids or newbies to fishing. I don't think Cajun Red is still made. Copolymer line rocks.
@Outdoor Mishaps. Sorry I missed this earlier. This is a good question, one I don't believe I've been asked. Yes, it would be good for frogs or a buzzbait, but most folks who excel at those baits recommend braided line-probably at least 30 lb. Those two baits are probably the ones I know the least about. I can only go by the best recommendation I can give. Thanks for watching!
@@frankracz6736 thanks, I am mostly a kayak or bank guy and I dont wanna be like the big bass boat guys and carry 14 different rods so I am looking for a rod spooled with the MOST versatile line I can get... something I can fish a frog with, and then tie on ... i dont know... a senko or something. know what I mean?
@Outdoor Mishaps this is perhaps my favorite question. Berkley Big Game or Ande fishing lines are the best all-around functioning strong abrasion resistant lines for price; however, they're not the most castable on spinning gear. Those are my picks for overall economy. For performance Berkley Trilene XT (not XL) is a fine bass fishing line choice-fresh-made in Iowa, like the Big Game. The XT offers the best compromise of castability, abrasion resistance, and price I know of. The XL is for spinning gear-open water.
steve4321able yes, Trilene Sensation is a copolymer, and regarding as one of the best in the industry. I've landed some of the biggest bass on it-great knot strength & castability both.
Bass and bucks I would estimate nothing more than 8 lb. for stream trout, 17 lb. for lake trout, & around 10 lb. for steelhead. Those are rough estimates. If you tell me what trout & bodies of water you target I could give a better recommendation. Thanks.
In copolymer (fluorocarbon coated or regular), or monofilament 6 lb. is good for spring, clear water, and little cover. 8 lb. is a better choice is summer when vegetation is higher. Heavier cover requires 10 lb. If you use braid it's very thin, and up to 20 lb. is fine. I don't recommend pure fluorocarbon on spinning, as it will have memory (tangles). I hope that helps.
That a very good question. It would depend on the pound test. Yes, in theory braid has no memory, but in the lower pounds w/ it not having stretch it can puff out, creating a memory that way. Otherwise generally I've recommended one line for the price-Berkley Trilene XL.
Thank you for this, very informative and educational
You're welcome
Thanks, great info! I have used Berkley Trilene XL for my 4lb mono for years (panfishing). Couldn't agree more, it is fantastic stuff.
For some reason no manufacturer has been able to make a better thin diameter casting mono. Stren's as good, actually made by the same company. Thanks.
I use the solar green sensation and blaze orange and never had any problems besides line twist once in a blue moon
I’ve just picked up the p line and I can feel the difference for sure between sufix pro mix and the p line Fluor clear. I’m also from north Indiana as well!
MrWhiteboy573 I hope the p line fishes well for you.
I agree I love copolymer fishing line because of strength I use mono for leaders alot though
Fishin N Stuff thanks for the feedback.
It's great that you're sharing your knowledge with your fishing community. That's a lot of money to spend on line, but worth it I'm sure
I love to impart fishing knowledge, but I spent so much money on line because I used to fish at least 2-3 days per week during the warm weather months years ago. As a writer I'm always typing away at home now-lol. Thanks again.
I been using Sufix Tritanium and man it has became my favorite line, its freakin awesome,great video and insight on these brands 👍
Fishing With JBT thanks for the sub and feedback. I'm glad you're liking the Sufix.
I tried alot of different lines.... tried mono, fluro, braid....my favorite..copolymer. I keep the braid for top water...the rest I go full on copolymer. I've tried many copolymer brands..some are very expensive and found the one that works for me is dirt cheap.
Experimental Fishing copolymer lines were ignored for some time, but have made a stroing comeback during recent years.
What line are you using . Memory is really bad with copolymer lines. P line ccx is really strong and abrasion resistance . But the memory is almost unbearable .
@@timg185 I've gone to braid on all my rods
Copolymer is hands down my favorite line. I like the suffix tritanium. Your right about detecting hits. When I'm using rippin raps I will catch 4 to 1 in terms of numbers of fish using raps compared to my buddies who aren't using it. It also a great main line for my steelhead center pin rod.. problem for me is nobody carries it near me and I've always been reluctant to buy a bulk spool thinking it would go bad before I've gotten through the spool.
Ralph Barton, I've never seen the Sufix Titanium on shelves by me, or what's left of store shelves in 2018-lol. You can buy a bulk spool and keep it in a ziplock type bag. I keep my line in the basement in a cool spot. Line will last indefinitely when stored like that. You can rest assured you won't waste money on that bulk spool. Thanks for the continued support. Let me know if you've got any questions.
Store it in the dark (the ziplock bag is a good idea too). UV light makes it break down quicker
Thanks for referencing the fact line should be stored in the dark.
I have a bulk spool of 4lb gamma. Over 10 years old and still good. Kept in a zip lock in a cool dark place
Great info...love the proline, best line I've used for the price!
Tate Jackson thanks for the feedback. I agree about the proline. It's hard to get good quality fishing line for an economical price. I'm glad you found the video informative. Take care.
Awesome video
Thank you for watching.
Best price to performance ratio copolymer: Yozuri Hybrid
hey Frank thanks for the review I bought a spool each of 6 lb 8 lb and 12 lb P-line. Seems pretty good so far. I didn't check the specs but the diameter is narrower than the seaguar fluorocarbon i was fishing before.
Wissahickonwild thanks. The memory should be significantly less on the P-line. Tight lines.
Thanks Frank!! I'm from the Old school on Line!! Have been using Ande Tourney Green 4 over 30 years on both Inshore & Offshore Reels with Xcellent results. Tried Braid & got fed up with Wind Knots & having 2 use Albright or Blood Knots 4 L 2 L connections. Reely didn't know a Co-Polymer existed. Great Info...I'll check it out!! Liked & Subscribed.....
Thanks for subbing back. I worked in a ma and pa tackle shop years ago. Ande was a very popular Lake Michigan and tributary trout/salmon line. Now it really isn't, but it's still the best fresh/saltwater bulk monofilament ever made. I'll check out some more of your videos.
I sold a lot of the Trilene sensation when I worked at a sporting goods store! That stuff is great!
Yes Sensation was one of the best lines I've ever fished.
Likin the Berkeley fluroshield. It’s a copolymer coated with fluorocarbon
Thomas Drelich, I was unaware of this line. Berkley pioneered some truly great lines throughout the decades and I believe when I hear positive feedback regarding their lines. Take care.
It’s relatively new evolution of copolymer line . Just released last year. I tried the vanish fluorocarbon and didn’t like it. You can buy a 3000 yard spool of the fluroshield for 55 direct from Berkeley . I use 6lb for trout fishing
@@THOMASDRELICH thanks for the feedback on the fluroshield. I know Vanish was the first fluorocarbon line I saw. They may not have changed the formula much.
I've never fished copolymer line, but I think I need to try it now!
I'm glad the video helped inform you about the line.
me too. just bought the sufix advance 17 and 20
Awesome tips brother, thanks for sharing
As always, thanks for viewing and leaving feedback.
Greetings from north central Indiana, Just bought some silver thread AN40 as my first copolymer and I hope it can perform better than my trilene xl I use for my ultralight creek setup. (4lb)
budgetgamer2017 A friend of mine fished tournaments using only silver thread. It should work well for you. Thanks for watching.
I love P-Line! P is good for the price! I buy P-Line CX Premium at academy for like $8. Great line. Really tough.
Michael Gonzales, I agree, you can't beat P-Line for the money at $8 it's a good value on today's market.
Great video, very useful, subscribed.
Feral Grandad thanks for the sub & feedback.
My experiance with sensation is its junk i have tryed 30 knots with it and they all break when i tye knots with the old trilene green line the nots dont break
Great tips.
This is my most watched video, and few know about line like me-honestly. Thanks for viewing.
I also liked cabelas products. I didn't use the Proline because it was a little bit thick, but Cabelas Salt Striker line was amazing before BPS took over. It was super thin diameter, very strong, for the diameter. I really wonder what line it was or whose shop it came from. A few years ago that salt striker line became thicker and I suspect it was rebranded Ande line. Unfortunately, it seems that basspro is basically gutting the business and its products.
Great information!
HB Maverick I replied to this, but it didn't save. Thanks for the feedback on the video. I'll swing by to check out your videos. Take care.
Bravo old chap at last someone and it's an American brother whose got sense keep your braid and give it to the old girl to construct a nice pair of boxers for those cold days we have here in good old England that's what I say. Brainwashed braid users whatever next,ROPE,mind you we're famous here for ROPE in Portsmouth,home of the royal navy.So glad you brought this up my friend c'mon you copolymer and c'mon u spurs. Regards Rob from good old blighty. 👍
Rob, thanks for the feedback. The main use for braid by me in the Midwest is for fishing for musky. You don't want to cast 80 lb. mono w/ heavy lures, otherwise I see your point. Thanks for viewing!
Wow
Been thinking about trying a different line, I don't have a lot of vegetation so braid is not what I'm looking at, how is the detection of light bites in copolymer compared to monofilament?
Technology at its greatest - in theory. Just ordered some Sufix Advance can’t wait to try it out on the rip rap!
Jay Wack the quality control on Sufix is phenomenal. It's a remarkable even, smooth, and consistent line. I've spooled thousands of yards over almost 11 years. You should be very pleased w/ the line. Take care, & thanks for commenting & viewing.
-I've fished with Trilene XT & XL my entire life. About 10 yrs ago I switched to braid and now I've become "one of those guys" that cannot move away from it. I will use fluorocarbon as a leader in certain applications, but I know that I need to spool at least one reel with a non-braid line. There are so many lures that "require" it.
My intention next season is to spool my Shimano Curado DC 6.2:1 with a non-braid line for crankbaits, etc. I'll probably go with 10 or 12 lb.
I'm not concerned with economy. I want one of the best. What I'm looking for, in order are:
Limpness
Thickness
Strength
Can you recommend something? My first instinct after watching your video is to give the Trilene Sensation a try.
-I have some friends that are telling me to go with fluorocarbon, but I'm just not sure if that's the right move.
@@NorthernMike Trilene Sensation's a great line, and has remained unchanged for many years. The Trilene XT is much limper than in the past, and a line I always recommend on a baitcasting reel. Straight Fluorocarbon is not abrasion resistant and can snap if rubbed against. The P-Line fluorocarbon coated coplolymer line is what they use for salmon & trout (almost exclusively) by me in the creeks.
@@frankracz6736 -I have a Gander Outdoors in my area that is going out of business. 60% off everything. Needless to say, I've been there 3 times in the last 10 days. I picked up the P-Line that you mentioned in 12 lb. (said fluoro on front, copolymer on back so I assume it's the same).
I think I'll give this a whirl on the baitcaster unless you can think of reasons why it wouldn't be a good idea.
-btw, I was in Chicago on 3 day vacation in August. On the way home I stopped in your store.
@@NorthernMike wow. What did you think of the selection? Too bad I didn't see you,.
Sufix ProMix is not a copolymer line, nor was Cabela's Pro line. Sufix Advance and Tritanium Plus are Sufix only copolymer monofilament lines.
I hate braid/rocks breaks like butter. ..65 lb !! Hate fluoro…. like bailing wire. "leaders only" Trilene XL gets my vote.
plutoplatters Trilene Xl has been the bar standard in fishing line since I started selling it in the mid-90's. It's still great stuff.
How does the bass pro excell line compare to Cabela's pro. The bass pro says it's a copolymer fourmla..I use it all the time
I remember in the 90s when P line copolymer line was awesome to use copolymer line just felt stronger
Vinfish 46 P-line is making a huge comeback in Great Lakes fishing and the Midwest. I don't know about the rest of the country
Salut mon ami super vidéo un grand merci à toi à bientôt
Thanks.
Welcome to te “trend “. I’ve been running yo-Zuri hybrid for 20 years now on everything that isn’t braid, which for me is only the frog rod and the punch rod.
Good info!
I'm glad you found the video informative.
I only tried the P-Line and love it. Want to try the Yo-Zuri Hybrid but now I may have to try the Cabela's Pro-Line fo rthe value....
Jason0625 the Cabela's line is discontinued, but you may be able to find some online, but more than likely only stores may have it. Thank you.
@@frankracz6736 Yeah I saw that when I went to order some. My life story, lol...
For economy copolymer line the Bass Pro Excel has bulk spools, but I haven't fished it. In mono economy Berkley Big Game is an old standby, or Ande. I've fished those. I hold onto my receipts, and return line if I'm dissatisfied.
@@frankracz6736 might have to try that excel co-polymer then. Not a fan of mono at all. Braid and co-polymer for me. Thanks for the help man, I appreciate it 👍
Hey anytime-they call me the "lineologist" at work-lol-I even know fly line. There's a lot-really-of misinformation on line, and it's such a critical link, and most folks don't have time to experiment & want to use the right line the 1st time out.
Yozuri Hybrid replaced the fluorocarbon on my reels.
CenTex Outdoorsman I know a reputable angler who says that's the best hybrid line for the money. I love the Yo-Zuri Rattle Vibe. Thanks for watching.
So....do they still make the pro line? Not seeing it on cabelas site.
Struggling to figure out best situation for spinning. Me and my 9yr old been crappie fishing with lighter weight jigs and such. I use 30-50lb braid on all my baitcasters and have the spinning reeels also set up with 20lb braid. Love being able to tie on differnt leaders. But just can’t get the casting distance on the spinning with this lighter weight tackle. Sometimes if we’re using a weighted bobber it’s ok. But just the jig by itself it doesn’t go too far.
Been really struggling with line twists and such with pure mono or fluoro. Tired that and lived the cast ability but just always ends up in a knotted disaster. Yeah we flip the bail by hand...next time I spool I’m going to do the thing where you flip the spool over as you see twists forming. Previously I’ve only did “label up” technique so maybe that was the problem.
Oddly enough they discontinued the Pro Line after the video was made. P-Line would be the next closest equivalent, higher price but higher quality line.
Lighter rigging involves many variables, the spool size and design, length, action, and parabola (bend) in the rod, and line choice.
Braid has no stretch and isn't the best choice for distance. Try Berkley Trilene XL for this. It's still probably the best handling line/best casting distance option on the market for the buck. Bear in mind you'll have to change it more than copolymer and much more than braid, but it's great for lighter rigging. Take care.
Gamma makes the best co-poly on the market. Highest break strength on the market also. Supple & abrasion resistant.
Angler Atlarge, I haven't seen Gamms in the Chicago market in several years. I used to sell it, and everyone liked it.
Interesting good info
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I use PLine C21 copolymer on most of my reels. Really great line and very inexpensive, usually can get a 300yd spool for $5.
I've never fished C21, but have heard some great feedback. Thanks for the feedback!
What do you use Copolymer for?
So does copolymer line sink?
Great for what Frank, spinning or a bait caster ? Did you try the Berkley Fluoroshield yet ?
Todd if the question is if copolymer line is good for either spinning or casting it's the most versatile line for both in most freshwater situations where heavy test isn't required. As for the Berkley line I've never tried it or heard feedback. Thanks for watching!
Any opining on on Sufix advance
Just subbed 👊
Is copolymer ok for bait n wait?? Does it sink?
Copolymer is fine for still fishing. No, it does not sink. Fluorocarbon line sinks yet offers less abrasion resistance than copolymer. Hope that helps.
Does this line float ? For example could I fish a spook or a popper without the nose going into the water ? Great video by the way thanks !
jeohavany delgado, co-polymer line doesn't float. The only non-fluorocarbon line that floats to my knowledge was a line called Hydrofloat by P-line. Thanks for the view & the compliment. If you have any questions feel free to ask, and good fishing.
Frank Racz thank you for the feed back bro !
Anytime
looks good
The feedback's much appreciated.
Does copolymer line float? I want to throw topwater plugs & shallow diving cranks. I fish rivers off my kayak and one rod has to to have multiple uses.
Javier Lopez, the only floating copolymer line that floats that I'm aware of is P-Line Hydrofloat.
Hey man! Quick Q I just got pline CXX recently switched from braid with a floro leader. Does this line sink? It has almost no stretch and feels real dense! Thanks for any input !
I'm fairly certain that line sinks.
What ever happened to Silver Thread, wasn't that a copolymer line?
That's such a great question. I guess it's no longer made but was a top recommending pick by a great bass angler to me years ago. Yes, it was copolymer.
does copoly sink better than flouro at the same weight?
Derek Smith that's a good question. I believe Copolymer line sinks only a bit faster than mono from my experience. Fluorocarbon line would sink much faster than copolymer-same weight. I hope that helps.
I have some Cabelas ProLine Premium Copolymer. Is this the same as the Pro Line you are talking about? I bought this on a closeout a few years ago. 7,900 yards 6lb. made in Indonesia. Needless to be said, I have a lot left to used !
james lyman your line is different. I've never used it. I believe it was made by P-LIne, like the line I showed. If you're not keeping it in a zip bag away from heat and sun then do that to prolong the life of your line.
Stored in the basement. How do you know if the line is bad?
james lyman, Copolymer or mono line will deteriorate over time if not enclosed in a sealed bag. Usually if you run your hands over the line and it's a bit rough than it's certainly bad.
What about the Berkley nano filament, Is that any good?
Dazmon3434 Berkley nano filament is good for a few reasons. The fibers that comprise the line are stronger than steel per diameter, like Fireline, except nano filament is much thinner. It's only recommended for spinning reels. The only downside is I've heard because it's so thin it can dig into a spool. I've never fished it personally, but have sold it since it came out around 6 years ago. Thanks.
What would you say is the best copolymer line ? I wanted to try p line cxx but I heard it retains a lot of memory not sure if that’s true ? It’s for a baitcaster btw. Thanks in advance!
As I referenced in the prior post, the cxx should offer superior abrasion resistance. If you're spooling it on a baitcaster the memory issue isn't going to be anywhere as pronounces compared to spinning gear. W/ the baitcasting gear you may be looking for abrasion resistance against trees and vegetative edges, that way you won't be changing as much line. You certainly don't want thin diameter line on baitcasting, as it can dig in. I'd say the cxx 10 lb. or higher should be a good pick, but let me know if you need anything else. Thanks!
Frank Racz thank you bro appreciate it ! Bought some 10 pound line and when out to try it it cast very well and the memory isn’t as bad as people say lol I guess they were using spin gear or they’re just cry babies I like the line so far !
jeohvany delgado glad it's working out.
have you tried the sufix advance?
I haven't tried Sufix advance, but no doubt it's good line. As I probably mentioned in the video, it may be a bit thicker than other brands, but the Sufix I've casted handled very well. The brand is also very abrasion resistance, and offers a real controlled stretch.
What about murky water?
East Texas Bass that's a good question. I always use low vis-green for my fishing. Berkley makes Transopic line that's orange above the water. P-Line makes a mint color across. Those are the dual color lines I'm aware of. I hope that answers the question.
I have used copolymer line for 40 years. Silver Thread came out in the 70s and I discovered it at Kmart back then. I tried it because the Kmart line was so shitty. As my experience and techniques got better I tried the Silverthread. It was a great line and kept with it for ever. It didn't catch on until about the late 90s. I used to buy 3000 yard spools for respooling back then for $12 from Cabelas. Once folks found out how well it performed it went to $60 for 3000 yard spools at Cabelas. I think the only SilverThread left is AN40 I have used Silver Thread, McCoy and Cajun Red which are all copolymers. The Cajun Red is so cheap but works great for times you are introducing kids or newbies to fishing. I don't think Cajun Red is still made. Copolymer line rocks.
That's a lot of copolymer line history! I believe the new Cajun line is mono, but the red is no longer produced. Thanks for posting!
I was just at Walmart today and walked thru the fishing department. They had Cajun Red on the shelf. I was surprised. So it is still being made.
Would this be good for say top water frogs or buzzbait?
@Outdoor Mishaps. Sorry I missed this earlier. This is a good question, one I don't believe I've been asked. Yes, it would be good for frogs or a buzzbait, but most folks who excel at those baits recommend braided line-probably at least 30 lb. Those two baits are probably the ones I know the least about. I can only go by the best recommendation I can give. Thanks for watching!
@@frankracz6736 thanks, I am mostly a kayak or bank guy and I dont wanna be like the big bass boat guys and carry 14 different rods so I am looking for a rod spooled with the MOST versatile line I can get... something I can fish a frog with, and then tie on ... i dont know... a senko or something. know what I mean?
@Outdoor Mishaps this is perhaps my favorite question. Berkley Big Game or Ande fishing lines are the best all-around functioning strong abrasion resistant lines for price; however, they're not the most castable on spinning gear. Those are my picks for overall economy. For performance Berkley Trilene XT (not XL) is a fine bass fishing line choice-fresh-made in Iowa, like the Big Game. The XT offers the best compromise of castability, abrasion resistance, and price I know of. The XL is for spinning gear-open water.
Trilene sensation is a copolymer?
steve4321able yes, Trilene Sensation is a copolymer, and regarding as one of the best in the industry. I've landed some of the biggest bass on it-great knot strength & castability both.
@@frankracz6736 Just picked some up in 10 and 12 lb test. So far it's performing well. More sensitive than I expected.
steve4321able I'm glad you enjoy it. I remember being surprised at the sensitivity as well. Thanks for viewing, and good fishing!
What lb. For trout
Bass and bucks I would estimate nothing more than 8 lb. for stream trout, 17 lb. for lake trout, & around 10 lb. for steelhead. Those are rough estimates. If you tell me what trout & bodies of water you target I could give a better recommendation. Thanks.
I use spinning reels to bass fish what’s the best pound line
In copolymer (fluorocarbon coated or regular), or monofilament 6 lb. is good for spring, clear water, and little cover. 8 lb. is a better choice is summer when vegetation is higher. Heavier cover requires 10 lb. If you use braid it's very thin, and up to 20 lb. is fine. I don't recommend pure fluorocarbon on spinning, as it will have memory (tangles). I hope that helps.
Frank Racz thanks it helps a lot
Frank Racz does copolymer Float can I use it for top water
You're welcome.
Tyler Waters copolymer line doesn't float. P-Line makes a line called Hydrofloat. That will float, if it's still on the market.
What line would you recommend for least amount of memory? not including braid.
That a very good question. It would depend on the pound test. Yes, in theory braid has no memory, but in the lower pounds w/ it not having stretch it can puff out, creating a memory that way. Otherwise generally I've recommended one line for the price-Berkley Trilene XL.
For a few more dollars the Stren Magnathin is made my the same company, w/ an even thinner & diameter and less memory. Hope this helps!
XL
Nice video like & sub
Jared Lee thanks for the like & sub! I do appreciate that!
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