Why You Should ONLY Use Braid on Your Spinning Reels!
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2022
- Here is why you should only use braid on your spinning reels! I only spool my spinning reels with braid now for these 4 main fishing tips that have helped me catch more fish! Braid on spinning reels allows you to do so much more with your spinning gear by altering leader sizes, monitoring bites, and feeling everything! Using braid on spinning reels has allowed me to catch more bass and other species of fish so if you like to fish with spinning reels give braid a shot and see if you catch more fish!
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This is my go to line setup for all my spinning gear. Love it.
Thanks dude. I love the lack of overdramatic presentation. It’s like listening to a buddy helping a first timer as I am.
Thanks!
Exactly
Love how you present topics. Learned alot from your content.
Yes. Switched over to braided lines years ago. Just attached a section of fluoro leaders.
i just switched over to braid and it was the best decision ive done in a while the way u can literally feel every bite and with minimal delay when setting ur hook setting hooks goes more smoothly only thing that can be a little hard would be having to use different knots than what i am used to but with practice it becomes easy
Nathan those are some great tips thanks keep up the awesome videos !!
Thank you!
Thanks Nathan !! Was looking at all my reels last night. I was thinking because I have high visibility line . Fish would see me ,then not touch my baits. I'm so using braid on all my spinning rods with Floro leader Thanks for keeping it simple !! Instant Sub !!
Thanks, good advise
I couldn’t agree more Nathan. I’m a huge convert to braid to leader. All your points are spot on. I also do this on my baitcasters as well.
Nice!
Great information!! I have braid on most my spinning reels (besides my UL setup for trout). Alot of spinning reels now have braid ready spools so why not use it. Braid works really well for carp and catfishing on hair rigs as well because it sets the hook easier and doesn't require me to have the drag on the reels set super strong.
Great video & tips!!! I use braid to leader and do not have any problems as well. Stay Safe & God Bless!!
Thanks good luck!
Also, I'm so glad your channel is growing. When I found you you just had over 1k. Great growth bud!
Thank you I appreciate it!
Thanks for all the information great video
Thank you!
Excellent video thank you
I switched to braid right before a vacation. I would not have been able to land a huge catfish on my light action spinning rod without it. I was fishing for panfish but happened to hook a big cat. Also braid cast great.
Good stuff Nathan, thanks
Thank you!
iFish braids on both casting and spinning and absolutely love it on both
Haha. That's me. I'm going to try these tips.
Thanks for the tips
Thank you!
Great info
At times surf casting in lake michigan waves can churn up a lot of moss. Braid will be coated in green goo but mono doesn't pick up much. Also trolling with braid is impossible at times because of the darn spiny fleas that stick to it.
Great presentation... You were well organized with a constant flow of useful information. Plus, you have an engaging manner without being flashy. You just need to get your notes in front of the camera. (You probably know this.) Those teleprompter rigs are expensive but it would take you to the next level. Be that as it may, you have convinced me to go with braided line. Thanks!
Excellent video.
Thanks Nate Im a big fan of braid as well .Being from up north I can't believe you didn't mention the ONE thing braid is not good for and that is using it in cold weather braid absorbs water and freezes making it impossible to fish with.Thats when I go to mono or fluro.👍
That is true I forgot that one!
good stuff.👍👍👍👍👍
I started using braid decades ago on my spinning/dropshot combo with a tiny swivel and a fluoro leader.
Now I use braid on most of my reels, including my casting reels.
I have no apprehension about leader knots anymore.
I would still use a swivel, @FiciousCritik; I'm not really confident in my ability to tie proper leader-to-braid knots...
The flexibility and abrasion resistance of mono make it far superior fishing off the rocks.
Hi Nathan, I agree on the pros. IMO the key in clearer water of >3-4’ is long leader. This is still wayyy cheaper than using all flouro. I start with a 15’ leader. Once down to 10’, I retie. Just a confidence thing. On spybait I keep the longest for obvious reasons.
I definitely use long leaders as well
@@nathanquincefishing7122 are you casting with the leader knot within your spool or guides? Do you feel any resistance or drag on your cast as the knot passes through each guide?
@@srperry01it could be the flourocarbons memory causing you issues. What i do is i have a pair of non slip warehouse gloves with runner fingers, pull the flouro through the rubberwith a stongish grip and it removes the memory
do we have 2023 spinning reel combo pls? Thanks Nath.
big shoutout!!!! here from Philippines
Braid does get line twist that can cause problems as well. In order to minimize twist I set the rod down and pull out 30-40 yards of line across my yard. Then I reel the line back in between my fingers. I do this before every trip and it really helps. I have no issues and sometimes my fishing partners are swearing up a storm about line tangles. Try it, you’ll like it.
I’ve never tried it!
@@nathanquincefishing7122 I just hate problems on the water and do this religiously before every fishing trip. I just spent 1 1/2 hours getting a massive tangle out of my fishing buddies spinning reel that has 10 lb test smackdown braid. That stuff seems to have more problems than suffix 832 which i use. Keep up the good work on your channel.
If you're fishing in a boat, snip your terminal tackle off and trail your line behind the moving boat. I sometimes troll salmon with fairly heavy mono and line twist is a
problem (Spinning tackle is so much easier for kids and women when battling a big King, but then you have to deal with line twist.)
Your drag is too light. If you are winding while the fish is taking line out, every wind puts 6 twists in the braid. So set your drag so a fish has to work to take line out, and if its running stop winding
I've been using the Camo braid. You just convinced me to switch to a brighter color.
U choose the lines suitable to the location and conditions
Clueless blanket comment from a yank who has never fished rough dangerous reef areas in Australia
Bad advice ma boi
@@tontobb8956 He's talking about bass in North America. He even said bass. Many times.
Good video, I too have made the switch completely over to braid on my spinning reels 2 years ago and I've already saved a bunch of money because of it, I was using #15 but have found I can get farther casts with #10 and the knot is smaller so it comes through the guides cleaner , now I have found a drawback and that is when it gets below freezing the braid freezes up and feels like a sawblade coming through the guides, going to rig a few of my backup spinning setups with flouro to fish freezing temps
That is one downfall!
I think mono might work better, it doesn't coil as badly as straight fluorocarbon does. It's what they used from the beginning of time and, I don't think it has stopped working! LOL
@@nathanquincefishing7122 I find braid is so light, on a windy day if you're not casting with the wind at your back or directly into the wind, there is such a bow in the line. It's so light it's nearly unmanageable if you cast at any other angle. That's another downfall.
@@robertbrost7777 it still works, have several buddies who swear by Berkeley big game mono
Raven mono - very little memory and inexpensive. Great for winter steelhead.
Boy u got a winner with this one this my next buy asap
Thanks!
Dude this is a channel like I have been looking for !! Actual tips and information most Chanel’s are just lots of talk and never say anything or a promo for their sponsors and lots of talk about needing a different combo every time the wind changes directions! Thanks!! New subscriber here!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
A lot of good information here.
Thanks!
Yep, I switched to braid around 15 years ago, and have not looked back.
OK first off good video and thank you for posting it. But I gotta say i'm in the other camp of not using braid (I know very unpopular opinion). Here's why for me. A. Wind Knots B. Spool knots. C. frays D. Knot Strength. I lost more lures in the 3 years i ran nothing but braid whether it was a slight knick I didn't see in the braid and I sent the lure sailing into the depths of the lake. The rock or metal (I fish alot of rock quarries) I didn't see the braid rub up against and all of a sudden there's nothing there (lures gone) I lost a couple rod tips to the braid wrapping around the top eye and me snapping the tip off (in 57 years I had never done that til braid) 99% of the time I am fishing shoreline and the heaviest line I use spinning rod wise is 12lb (State record bass is 10lbs our average fish is 2-3 lbs on a good day) I can work every bit of shoreline using various line weights and never need to "Bomb" a cast out there and if I do I drop down in line size to 6-8. My costs have completely nose dived since I am not going through so much braid. I get 1000 yd spools of Sufix as an example for 9.99 each. My braid averaged $15.00 per 150 yards. in the last 2 plus years of no braid I have lost 1 lure and that was because I tied to an eye on a lure that I saw that was knicked and went against my better judgement and tied on anyways. I do think braid has it's good points and uses but for me and my setups it's an uneeded cost. Also alot of the old wives tales about mono stretch and coils is recycled from 20+ years ago from when mono was pretty bad i'd have to admit. Mono and flouro have evolved as well with the years. Also you soak your mono before using it and closing the bail with your hand eliminates 90% of the issues people complain about in mono. and no lead for leader tying most of the time. Thanks again and sorry for the long reply keep the videos coming!
Thanks! Appreciate the comment and positive feedback! I love hearing other peoples ways of fishing and preferences!
Heck I fish more stained water with a fairy wand and I’ll use 20 lb Camo braid without a leader. I’ll tie the bait to the darker green section, and the brighter sections of the braid help with line visibility. Deadly for skipping knarly cover. Almost never break off when hooked up in the jungle. IMO I get plenty of bites not worrying about the line visibility.
Nice! Sometimes they don’t care about the line!
Suffix is good braid, I use braid for my soft plastic, and jigging sets. Mono is better for some types of bait fishing, and trolling for Marlin and tuna because of the stretch.
That is all I’ll use I learned the hard way growing up fishing Lanier.
I just throw braid mainly cause the line twist is outrageous on flouro
ditto on Lanier. I tied a minimum 10’ flouro leader. I start with 15’ then retie when gets down to 10’. 👍
Nice it works!
I talked to guy told me I need to start mono first tie braid to it when using on spinning reel
Just got a new pack of 15lb Hi vis yellow braid. Can’t wait to fish a wacky or floating worm. Good points on why braid is better than mono. My only issue is managing when braid gets wrapped around the rod tip or eyes.
Yea that happens sometimes!
If you fish a lot, braid will saw through the tip eye. Now you have to replace the tip eye on your nice rod you payed good money for.
I just had my reel spooled with some new braid, I’m getting some coiling hand casting. What could be the issue?
Im a Sedona braid set uo too! Just fire for cheap.
2 days ago i caught two muskys on my 1piece 6' medium heavy spinning stimula shimano rod... one 43" and the other one was 45" / 25lbs !! Cant believe my rod held that 25lbs monster on my 30lbs braided ! '
I agree, although I use power pro.
I fish spinning gear exclusively, I just have heavy spinning rods for baits most guys throw with casting gear... I just use a lot of mono leaders, sometimes fluoro.
I use power pro but the quality is going down. My last 2 spools had no coating and were dull green almost white. A couple spools prior had very little coating.I am trying YoZuri next.
Power pro is good as well!
@@kevinbeaudean704 I got some PP this Summer and it was olive in color! Same "moss green" on the package but olive in color. Weird.
@kevinbeaudean704 I seem to notice power pros quality declining as well... I've heard good things about Berkley X9 and it seems to be on par with power pro as far as price.
832 is a great line. Got a question on a new rod reel combo wanna build for lipless crank baits for walleye and possibly live bait jigging. just started fishing for them this year. I prefer a spinning combo and tend to fish small lakes in the fingerlakes. Got any suggestions?
To be honest I don’t fish for walleye much but I imagine any 7 foot medium spinning rod with a 2500 size reel would work!
It would be great if you did a review on what tackle you will be taking to Florida. I live in upstate NY and enjoy your video’s. It’s nice to see someone from the same area and the baits you use. I also use braid to fluorocarbon leader on all my spinning reels as well. Great video’s!!
I could try to do that!
I agree with the points in this video and I do a similar thing I use 30 lb test braid on all my spinning reels and just use different lb test leader lines. I see a lot of people advocate for 65 lb test braid all the way up 100 lb test braid for monster sized fish. But the reality is even for monster-sized fish you'll never need more than 30 lb test braid if you set your drag right. I know guys that have used 30 lb test braid to catch 200 lb sharks deep sea fishing just by adjusting their drag to 15 lb test. So anything over 30 lb test is overkill for any fish you'll ever catch ever but to each their own. Also I personally like to use reaction tackle 4 strand high vis green braided fishing line.
So you tie a leader on?
Been using 17lb Trilene Clear Blue Fluorescent for years..mostly saltwater. More visible, great for fishing at night with a blacklight head lamp..can pull in 40lb rays & 30lb stripers no issues (a couple of rods have broken but line held). Yes braid is more sensitive and I can get two seasons out of it but I hate untangling it, it will cut you, it's tough on your line guides, and knots are less secure if you aren't very careful. And of course it is less resistant to abrasion. And then there is the sound..after a short time I get tired of hearing it..anyone else hate that sound?
Thanks
Thank you
I was using 30 lb hi-viz yellow braid to 20 lb fluro leader until a giant bass broke a palomar knot at the hook. I like the hi-viz because I can see it. Anyway, I planned to switch to straight moss green braid until someone told me use a black sharpie on the last six feet or so before the bait. So far so good. I still may go back fluro leader.
Nice!
I use a fused line, basically a braid. Fireline, I wish they made it in more hyvis colors
I only use braid on my frog rod. I used braid on spinning reels for finesse fishing but over time I got more bites with straight floro. That’s just my experience. Only advantage of braid is that it does last longer and has little memory. But it floats, is tough to work with, expensive, and very visible. You must use leaders and that is a weak link. So there are disadvantages.
Would this line i mean braid be good for small brookies
Thanks for helping make the decision to go with braid! How long of a leader do you use?
15 foot usually
I have a video idea. What clothing/gear to wear for fishing the river in winter
I could look into it!
Never liked Braided line. I was not "familiar" with it. I restrung to Braided during my last fishing trip after I lost 6 $12 lures. After switching, I felt every rock, stump, hit....etc. plus I was able to work free all stuck lures. I will only use Braided on Spinning Reels moving forward. I am sold!!!
Thanks Nathan. Do you go braid to leader on baitcasters? Seems the benefit would also be good for a pitching set-up.
I do use braid to leader on my spinning reels but hate the weakness of connection knots and the knot banging the guides. All connection knots weaken the line test by 30%or more. That's alot when your talking 6 and 8lb test. I guess until someone comes up with something better that's the set-up.
I had a good year with swim jigs, any tips to improve on my favorite technique would be appreciated. I cannot get bit on shad colored swim jigs only bluegill.
I can try a swim jig video in Florida! I don’t usually use it on casting gear
@@nathanquincefishing7122 yes!! More Florida fishing info please
I went back to floracarbon. Braid wind knots way too much where I live.
Braid to leader is the way to go. How about trying some big swimbait fishing down in Florida?
I might!
Braid is already so sensitive that I don’t know how much the hi viz is necessary I have 3 spinning reels. Two with braid one straight flouro. The flouro is pretty much just for finess cranking and small jerk baits. I also use flouro for float-n-fly on a spinning rod I built on a 10.5’ fly rod blank.
Are you building your own rods now? I've been waiting since August on a north fork c602 x ray blank to start building my own. Supposedly its coming soon...supposedly. I need to pick up a couple mhx elite blanks to fill in the voids in my spinning gear.
I’ve been building my own rods for over 5 years!
@@nathanquincefishing7122 Ohh cool, I just noticed. How do you like the mhx blanks or do you have other favorites?
I have 2 2500 reels. Sedona and Vanford. I put 150yrd of only 10lb neon lime braid on both.
I have about 1/16th of an inch to go before i get to the slope which is perfect right?
Correct!
Gets you less bites when fishing anything under water, big fish dont get big by being dumb or grtting caught, i fish braid on my frog rod and i just put braid on one of my spinning reels, i feel like if you can see it well they can see it well. And with braid i grt lures stuck on hsrd cover much more, and i cant them thrk unstuck nearly as often.. i havent done a lot of fishing with braid on spinning reel and havent had nearly as many fish on the line, guess ill have to do some more fishing with the setup.
I've been using fire line since it came out. Low stretch line makes it so easy to set the hook. None of those dramatic backwards arm sweeps are needed.
I switched to braid about 2 years ago and never looked back. It's the best switch I've ever made. I use the 15 lb hi-vis yellow with an 8-12 lb fluorocarbon leader. It's a game changer in terms of visibility and feel.
Yes it is!
How many ft/inches is ur leader. Im new to using leaders
@@zekeelliottanthony6953 I'll use up to 6 feet of leader because I retie often and it can use up your leader pretty quickly.
@@zekeelliottanthony6953 I usually do around 2 feet or so
@@zekeelliottanthony6953 Use 10 foot fluorocarbon leader.
What brand and test do you recommend? Fishing canada. Smallies, walleye , northern
15 pound suffix 832
What kind of braid do you use in the winter. I was steelhead fishing and my braid kept freezing?
That’s just an issue with braid in general unfortunately
Personally I can get nearly 100 yard casts with a spinning reel using braid and my trick to achieving this is simple I use a very thin diameter braid no bigger than 30 lb braid ( 8 lb mono equivalent ). And large spinning reels along with very long rods of at least 8 ft long.
And my formula for this is 3,000 size reels for 15 lb braid, 4000 size reels for 20 lb braid, and 6,000 size reels for 30 lb braid and a ton of backing. And the reason for these bigger reels and thinner braid is that the bigger reel will create less friction as the thinner braid comes off the spool allowing you to cast farther.
And the longer rod will give you more leverage to whip your line out farther as well.
When I first read the title and it sounded like you were advocating for all braid, and only braid all the time, I thought you opened Pandora's Box! I thought you were opening yourself up for a lot of discussion. But, when you mentioned Fluorocarbon leaders, that made more sense. Having said that, when I first started using braid, it was without a leader of any sort. Something really crazy happened one Winter while I was jerk bait fishing. I had just bought my first Megabass jerk bait and told myself I wasn't losing it so, I used straight braid. For some reason, I've caught the majority of jerk bait fish on straight braid. Can you explain this? I think the action with no stretch makes for more prominent twitches.
Interesting I cannot explain it! Fish are weird sometimes!
I see mono line moving when a bass eats it. I use mostly weightless zooms
How lng of a leader fo you use? Also what color braid is the least visible under water? White? Thanks
15 feet on the leader!
I have a question on what knot do you tie fluorocarbon to braid I've tried the double uni-knot, it does hold up while fishing but say I snag it when I have to break it off it always breaks at the knot, I'm using med light rod with 6lb braid & fluorocarbon fishing for crappie! Thanks
Have you tried the Alberto knot
@@robertlancaster5004 I'll give it a shot thanks
I have seen test done on leader knots and the double uni is just as good if not better than most. Line will always break at a connection knot which ever you choose. A connection knot loses 30% of line test and that's the better knots. Keep that drag a little loose!
@@kevinbeaudean704 good to know thanks
I use the Alberto knot!
What is your go to connector knot braid to Fluro?
Alberto knot!
Awesome video! ESPECIALLY since I only use spinning reels (I'm 70 and gave up trying to master the baitcaster reel!), I LOVE braid, and I just bought a bulk reel of the 15-pound test Suffix 832!
What knot do you like to use to connect the fluoro to braid?
Thanks!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
Thanks! I use the Alberto knot!
15 lb braid low viz green. No leader it’s not needed.
No memory in the line is a great advantage. Convinced me.
I tried braid years ago and didn't like it. I've always used mono but, latest few times I've put mono on, the line just doen't seem to perform as well as I remember a lot of years ago. More coiling up, doesn't cast as far. But, back then I only used 6 pound line. I've been using 10 and 12 pound lately. Bigger line diameter makes a difference, I guess.
Bigger diameter definitely makes a big difference!
Does anyone know if braid is good for bait
I use braid to leader on every one of my 12 rods and reels.. baitcaster and spinning... it works better for me.
Awesome!
Does braid tangle up less than mono? How you like that Shimano-Sedona reel?
I love the reel and used properly yes!
I have gone back and forth between mono and braid. I switched out my rods for bass/pond fishing to white braid and failed to get anything to bite.
Did you use a leader?
@@nathanquincefishing7122 sometimes I do but need to learn the correct knot for that. I know….practice practice….. thank you.
You mentioned a 10 foot leader. Is that you standard length? I’ve been 5-7ft. Maybe not enough to trick the fish? Or do you just choose 10 because you frequently change baits?
I use a longer leader so I can change without retying a bunch!
@@nathanquincefishing7122 with a long leader does your knot get into the spinning reel? If it does do you experience any problems with the knot?
I read online on bass resource someone said you shouldn’t let your knot get into your spool, your thoughts?
What knot are you using for your leaders...
Alberto knot
I have a 2000 size reel should I put 20 or 10 pound braid
10 would be better
How long of a leader should you put on? Is it based on water depth?
Usually 10-15 foot
Is 50lb suffix 832 braid too big to use for spinning reel?
I just spooled my Shimano Sedona 2500 with Yo Zuri braid with 50lb because it wasn't as stiff as other braids and it cast just fine as I'm not out to set casting distance races. I also have another Shimano spinner spooled with Berkley XT 12lb mono and it cast great for trout creek and river fishing 👍
to save money, you can put simple mono halfway, then connect to braid.
True!
Color braid line for California fishing saltwater?
Never fished there so I’m not sure!
Mono and braid both get line twist. Harder to see with braid. Let line out (nothing tied on) while motoring. 5min. Takes all the twist right out.
What knot do you use to join the fluorocarbon leader to the braid?
Alberto knot!
wind knots if slack line is spooled on spinning reel- - terrible waste of time and wastes braid when you have no alternative but cut the 'nest'. Hook a fish, next cast the braid has dug into the spool of 'slacker' line......birds nest! Windy day=slack line= birds nest. The 'feel' is much better than mono i agree.
Using backing and spooled properly can help this!
But the fish can see the bright color braids I live in Fla and the fish will run from bright color braids even with a 10 ft leader. Once the Fla bass sees the line they know something is off and will not bite I have tried this before
I have 0 braid experience, always scared of what thread does in the wind
Can this braided line be used for saltwater fishing.
Yep!
Awesome. Thanks for replying. It’s a bit confusing when braided line labels don’t explicitly say its for salt water. I’m getting into fishing so I’m still learning. Thanks again.
Do bass shy away from any colors of line or shy about line connected to bait??
It depends on how pressured and clear the water is!
@@nathanquincefishing7122 ah….makes sense…..the pond I fish at is very small and fished a lot.
Does anyone have a challenge tying this knot on 12# fluoro to 50#- 4 strand braid? I tried several times and the knot does not lay smooth at all. Maybe it is the 4 strand braid that is just too thick??
I fish from a kayak/canoe in too many shallow rivers with lots of rocks and submerged structure. I think braid absolutely is the wrong option for that situation. Need something with better abrasion resistance, monofilament is the better option.
That's your opinion. I'll stick with mono/ fluorocarbon mix.
That Suffix 832 is definitely a decent braid for a spinning setup, what do you use on your baitcasting reel?
Either suffix advance fluorocarbon or also 832
How long of a leader do i need?
10-15 feet!
What about windy days?
It helps you feel the bait better