Important to note that in sabre if you cross over going backwards, you have to complete the action and land on the back foot before going forward again, to avoid the forward cross. But I like the ideas here, will try the kickback step.
The proper explanation of the stages of a cross-over retreat are super useful, thank you! I've oft been told I can cross my legs to retreat faster in Sabre but the actual means by which to do it without massive loss of balance and form has never been explained to me before
At 5:29 you say to be more on your first leg but I think and I see that when are more on your back leg you can make a bette defense that when you are on the first leg
Thanks for the good demonstration. Of course the retreat-story continuous differently per weapon. After the first initiation of the retreat the sable-arm will stretch fully towards the opponent to have a 'point-in-line' by the stop. This point has te be taken away by the opponent. In foil we also stretch after the first retreat-action to keep the opponent on distance and perhaps this opponent is tempted to 'counter time'. With épée we like to hide our reach and the counter attack has to be with an opposition and blocking the line of our opponent. Also the moment and place to stop is important. One has to do this on your moment and place and preferably not with the rear leg already crossing the back-line. Your stop-moment is forcing the opponent to finish the attack and you'll be prepared!
Thank you so much! Headed to a tournament in saint Louis soon and I am fencing kids five years older than me (I’m 13 and my coach wants me to fence cadet) so this will be helpful given that I am, like, super short.
If you start the crossover retreat (passing step) with the feeling of sitting down over your back leg and drawing the lead leg back you omit the need to begin by stepping forward, it immediately draws the torso back, and if opportunity presents can still be reversed into an immediate extension.
there are actually more natural ways for "crossover retreat", particularly without shoulder turn and arm withdrawal. The latter might be of some benefit in sabre to protect the arm but hardly in foil and even less in epee
this is all so good. on the crossover it’s important to inform the fencer that your torso tends remain in place and not make as much initial distance. the normal retreat moves your torso with the retreat. your other actions that you mention help to minimize this static torso effect of the crossover. your thoughts on always making a standard retreat prior to the crossover. never start retreating with one?
Usually you are already retreating when the crossover is necessary. However, the crossover can be used from a stand still as well. I don't think it is necessary to make a retreat before you crossover.
Im trying to do the multiple crossovers in a row is there a specific drill for this or a vid you can display more of? I’m drilling this and can do one crossover but multiple is a little hard not sure if I’m doing it right
A few questions: When you say “quicker” or “faster” empirical (IE: measurable) data may be useful: How much quicker and faster are the various retreats? Also, how do breathing techniques enable and/or impede the movements; how is breathing coordinated with the movements?
Good questions. I'm not sure... I have never timed the difference between the different retreats. As far as the breathing goes, I have never thought about coordinating my breathing with my movements. I do however like to take a smooth deep breath before each touch (at the en guarde line before the ref says fence)
Fencer's Edge: I suppose to measure the time difference between the various retreats would be important only to support the claim that one retreat, when executed skillfully, is quicker or more useful than another. While I appreciate the constellation of variables that come into play during a retreat (and an attack) I do wonder if it’s possible to identify and list the basic performance indicators (energy expenditure, balance and speed being just three) of a well executed retreat? And, as far as breathing goes, because it is always influenced by movement and vice-versa, I believe it’s imperative to identify what breathing techniques enable and impede the execution of a given set of movements. I suspect even being conscious of breathing and movement coordination can help? Lots to think about and even more to learn, thanks for the video!
overall very useful- but with respect to the cross over retreat your suggestion to pull the hand back might work but in epee it also could expose your thigh and also deprive you of the opportunity to make a stop hit on the way back.
Very good point. I only recommend the arm pull in saber. Foil and Epee I recommend leaving the arm in front to either parry or counter. Thank you for bringing this up. I didn't make that point clear enough in the video.
Your right I did! My mistake. thanks for pointing this out. Also you don't always have to turn the shoulder and pull the arm. One thing I forgot to mention in the video, is that in epee and in foil it's actually better to leave the blade in front of your body.
Khumallambam Yaiphaba one way is to crouch a little lower and load up the back leg before you lunge. Make the move subtle before you go as to not telegraph it to your opponent.
11:50 Interisting idea. In epee I would oly think about this as a rare mixup, because you have more chance to get a single or double by going with the tip to your opponent. BUT mixups are totaly needed, even if its 1 out of 10. ua-cam.com/video/nQ5-JvQk5sc/v-deo.html semi-final (more movement) ua-cam.com/video/b72e8ILnkrc/v-deo.html final (less, but other perspective) Thats me, Brinkmann (left side) btw. I would be happy if you see it and leave some critics about my fencing that I can improve.
With due respect, these moves may be more easy and faster, if sovereign fancing organization of the world add our Gatka pantra in this sport, pantra moves are more easy and faster
Thanks for this. This is useful for boxing.
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Important to note that in sabre if you cross over going backwards, you have to complete the action and land on the back foot before going forward again, to avoid the forward cross. But I like the ideas here, will try the kickback step.
That is an important point! Thanks for bringing that up!
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Some great technical details!
I've never heard of the "kick back retreat". Looking forward to trying this technique out.
Awesome! Thanks! Let me know how it works for you.
@@FencersEdge kick back is same as push back in jkd I'm learning it
I learned this as a jump backwards.
useful for historical fecning as well! :) thanks tyler.
I am sooo glad that you mentioned the fact sabre fencers can cross feet going backwards, I am a new sabre fencer and did not know this, thank you!
The proper explanation of the stages of a cross-over retreat are super useful, thank you! I've oft been told I can cross my legs to retreat faster in Sabre but the actual means by which to do it without massive loss of balance and form has never been explained to me before
I love watching your videos because you always give us very useful tips, thank you !!
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Thanks for this. This is useful for my fighting style
At 5:29 you say to be more on your first leg but I think and I see that when are more on your back leg you can make a bette defense that when you are on the first leg
Thanks for the good demonstration. Of course the retreat-story continuous differently per weapon. After the first initiation of the retreat the sable-arm will stretch fully towards the opponent to have a 'point-in-line' by the stop. This point has te be taken away by the opponent. In foil we also stretch after the first retreat-action to keep the opponent on distance and perhaps this opponent is tempted to 'counter time'. With épée we like to hide our reach and the counter attack has to be with an opposition and blocking the line of our opponent. Also the moment and place to stop is important. One has to do this on your moment and place and preferably not with the rear leg already crossing the back-line. Your stop-moment is forcing the opponent to finish the attack and you'll be prepared!
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Will get my daughter to watch it. Are you still doing any new videos?
Thank you so much! Headed to a tournament in saint Louis soon and I am fencing kids five years older than me (I’m 13 and my coach wants me to fence cadet) so this will be helpful given that I am, like, super short.
Nothing special I’m 17 fencing vs 25 year olds
Cadets not 18 years old lmao
Great instructions, thank you.
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If you start the crossover retreat (passing step) with the feeling of sitting down over your back leg and drawing the lead leg back you omit the need to begin by stepping forward, it immediately draws the torso back, and if opportunity presents can still be reversed into an immediate extension.
there are actually more natural ways for "crossover retreat", particularly without shoulder turn and arm withdrawal. The latter might be of some benefit in sabre to protect the arm but hardly in foil and even less in epee
this is all so good. on the crossover it’s important to inform the fencer that your torso tends remain in place and not make as much initial distance. the normal retreat moves your torso with the retreat. your other actions that you mention help to minimize this static torso effect of the crossover. your thoughts on always making a standard retreat prior to the crossover. never start retreating with one?
Usually you are already retreating when the crossover is necessary. However, the crossover can be used from a stand still as well. I don't think it is necessary to make a retreat before you crossover.
Informative and useful , thanks!
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What angle should the backfoot be to minimize the risk of tearing the meniscus and the cruciate ligament? Is 90 degree better than 45 or 70 or etc.?
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Can these also be applied to Boxing? I want to retreat faster in boxing.
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Im trying to do the multiple crossovers in a row is there a specific drill for this or a vid you can display more of? I’m drilling this and can do one crossover but multiple is a little hard not sure if I’m doing it right
A few questions: When you say “quicker” or “faster” empirical (IE: measurable) data may be useful: How much quicker and faster are the various retreats? Also, how do breathing techniques enable and/or impede the movements; how is breathing coordinated with the movements?
Good questions. I'm not sure... I have never timed the difference between the different retreats. As far as the breathing goes, I have never thought about coordinating my breathing with my movements. I do however like to take a smooth deep breath before each touch (at the en guarde line before the ref says fence)
Fencer's Edge: I suppose to measure the time difference between the various retreats would be important only to support the claim that one retreat, when executed skillfully, is quicker or more useful than another. While I appreciate the constellation of variables that come into play during a retreat (and an attack) I do wonder if it’s possible to identify and list the basic performance indicators (energy expenditure, balance and speed being just three) of a well executed retreat? And, as far as breathing goes, because it is always influenced by movement and vice-versa, I believe it’s imperative to identify what breathing techniques enable and impede the execution of a given set of movements. I suspect even being conscious of breathing and movement coordination can help? Lots to think about and even more to learn, thanks for the video!
overall very useful- but with respect to the cross over retreat your suggestion to pull the hand back might work but in epee it also could expose your thigh and also deprive you of the opportunity to make a stop hit on the way back.
Very good point. I only recommend the arm pull in saber. Foil and Epee I recommend leaving the arm in front to either parry or counter. Thank you for bringing this up. I didn't make that point clear enough in the video.
Raise your hand if you’ve rolled your ankle retreating 😂🙋🏻♀️ I’m a Sabre btw
When you demonstrated the crossover retreat at speed you omitted the shoulder turn and arm withdrawal, eg 2 and 3...
Your right I did! My mistake. thanks for pointing this out. Also you don't always have to turn the shoulder and pull the arm. One thing I forgot to mention in the video, is that in epee and in foil it's actually better to leave the blade in front of your body.
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Is it compulsory to touch opponents blade before an hit if we are in defence
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We French knew that for generations. Thanks anyway.
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how can we go faster in step forward launch
Khumallambam Yaiphaba one way is to crouch a little lower and load up the back leg before you lunge. Make the move subtle before you go as to not telegraph it to your opponent.
Stay tuned! I will do a video about this in the future.
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11:50 Interisting idea. In epee I would oly think about this as a rare mixup, because you have more chance to get a single or double by going with the tip to your opponent. BUT mixups are totaly needed, even if its 1 out of 10.
ua-cam.com/video/nQ5-JvQk5sc/v-deo.html semi-final (more movement)
ua-cam.com/video/b72e8ILnkrc/v-deo.html final (less, but other perspective)
Thats me, Brinkmann (left side) btw. I would be happy if you see it and leave some critics about my fencing that I can improve.
I prefer to think of backing to be more of a strategic move to draw my opponents into range. The word Retreat is what putinites do.
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With due respect, these moves may be more easy and faster, if sovereign fancing organization of the world add our Gatka pantra in this sport, pantra moves are more easy and faster