Not Much Different? 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser vs 2025 Toyota 4Runner
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- We got our first look at the 2025 Toyota 4Runner and also spent time with the 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser including driving off-road. Here's where we see these two Toyota SUVs stacking up.
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That roll down back window in the 4Runner makes it win 🏆
It’s cheaper and has the better back window.
They both look good. I prefer the LC front end though. Not really digging the double mustache on the 4Runner front end.
Thanks for this perspective Tim.
Great videos!! Not sure if you are just dropping seeds for comments. Noticed @ 7:16 you started mixing up your "feet" for inches. It is not a foot longer and at 7:29 a foot difference in ground clearance. Otherwise like always you are spot on! Keep up the great work!
The new 4Runner looks like the early 2000s Isuzu VehiCross. I like the styling, but it’s just an observation
Agree. It really does.
Exactly what am thinking😂
The Vehicross was a two-door truck, unfortunately the four-door never made it to the US.
Both nice. Side note though…I get the simplicity and idea of the 1958 Land Cruiser trim but for 55k+ it should at least have softex and a power seats.
Agreed....1958 is too sparce...to basic. LC isn't supposed to be this void of options..even if it is the base model.
I guess its the ideal LC for the gearheads that are just gonna drive it straight to the custom shop. But if thats the intent...its a bit overpriced. Not a lot but a bit.
This is going to be in a year or two the best Toyota deal. The 1958 I don't think will sell well (too expensive for what you get amenity wise), so you will see incentives. IF you want to build an LC for real offroad use this model will make a lot of sense, especially if there are decent incentives.
@@justinboucher5923 I agree.
The Land Cruiser is roomier due to its more upright design and has a better interior, better plastics, according to some other reviewers.
Is the 4Runner ground clearance of 9.2" official press release information and if so is that at the rear differential? Toyota claims the Tacoma has up to 11" of ground clearance for the TRD Pro and Trailhunter so I would think the 4Runner ground clearance would be equivalent to the same trim levels. Any additional clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I know the Toyota fanboys are going to crucify me, but I don't understand the premium of this LC over a 4Runner. Dimensionally, its fractionally shorter and narrorwer than the 4Runner, but about 4" taller. The 4Runner has access to the hybrid-max powertrain, as well as them sharing 4WD systems(would've been cool if the LC offered f/r lockers, then I could see it). The LC should've had the Hybrid-Max V6 at least as an option to separate itself from the 4Runner.
Besides 4runner looks better on both inside and outside
And most importantly: it's wayyy cheaper
By the time you configure a 4runner with full time 4wd and an iforce max, they are going to be very similarly priced.
4Runner looks like a toy your child plays with in the backyard. Also the interior is much more truck like and less luxury feeling… if you get the premium package on the LC
@@alariaaurora8456it’s 12K more expensive than the Land Cruiser but go off. It’s 68K for the TRD pro and 55K for the Land Cruiser. Has the same engine. Mid and rear locking diff and a better backseat and cloth seats which is a decent touch. I just wish it had the unlockable sway bars at that price point.
Land Cruiser (GR) is full locked (triple) and got twin turbo V6 in petrol or Diesel, your "US" version of "LC" is a world's Prado. every toyota fanboy knew it. thats why its lacking of offroad goodies and tech, and a little bit smaller in size
Nice observation about the Tacoma seats vs. T4r. I thought it would grow on me that they gave the Prado an LC250 badge, but the more time goes on, I wish they would have called it a Prado or something. Makes no sense for it to have any sort of lc badge
Interesting that you’re standing with a base model (round headlight) version of the Land Cruiser in baby blue, but then the B roll film of it on the off road course demonstrating it’s capabilities is the top trim triple beam headlight Land Cruiser (also in baby blue)- coincidence? Or bait & switch??
I like that they are similar yet have different styling flares. GM does this with there virtual twin GM/Chevy offerings.
Tim what are you saying at 7:28? A foot difference in ground clearance?
I’m really curious how the new MTS and crawl system work compared to the older systems. Also, the range/gas mileage. My 4R is thirsty and slow in the mountains, so the better gearing and power will be welcomed.
probably will achieve at least a little bit better gas mileage, and from other reviewers, the MTS and CC are much quieter like almost nothing is heard
TY for pointing out the payload!
In all fairness, the payload will depend on the package. The higher end 5th gen 4Runners also have just under 900 lbs of payload, especially if you get the 3rd row option.
Yes, but that was the most basic. So the higher the trim the lower the payload. Not good.
The three row models get higher payload rating ironically…
It's like 2 different departments in Toyota designed 2 SUV and didn't bother communicating with each other.
How so?
@@ALMX5DP The front looks like a tacoma and the rear looks like a 4Runner. I completely agree. Not saying it looks bad- just not as good as LC or 5th gen.
@@brandonedwards4398 oh was the OP just talking about the styling of the 4R? I thought they were complaining that the team doing the LC did not talk to the 4R team and wasn’t sure why they needed to communicate since they’re entirely different products.
@ALMX5DP Not sure if this is the case, but Japan has a history for internal competition. Japanese Navy/Japanese Army, Grand Sieko/King Sieko, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if these are two different departments and Toyota is seeing which one is better.
They should look different. Wouldn’t make sense to look the same.
Not sold on the price premium of the LC though 4wd auto is a big difference.
Those statements from Toyota are quite interesting. For 1 they admit the difference really comes down to styling preferences and 2: They aren't worried about internal cannibalization even if two of their vehicles essentially compete in a very similar space.
Its almost like they're just appeasing the LC fan base because they know they'll buy it.
it would have been better for Toyota to put a manual transmission and in the TRD Pro isodynamic seats to further separate the Land Cruiser 250 from the 4runner besides styling, name, height, roll-down window vs pop-out window, standard hybrid vs optional hybrid, optional third row, part-time vs F4WD, etc
So since you have been in both, how does the Land cruiser compare to the Lexus Gx? Are they the same size? And the Gx has the twin turbo V6?
Dimensions wise they are the same size. The GX based on what I’ve seen definitely is more premium feeling compared to any version of the Land Cruiser. And yes the GX is standard with the TTV6 while the LC is with the hybrid 4.
Integrated infotainment screen on the LC is a ++
Thinking 5 years from now there will be less LC's on the road then 4runners.
The new 4Runner is incredible. A homerun for Toyota.
The interior looks super refined.👍
I love everything but the engine 😢
@@jonathancapellan Agree.
I like everything but SUV 😂
I have an issue paying that much money for a 4 banger.
I love everything except for the interest rate 😂
Why is the payload so low? 2024 Tacoma has far better payload capacity. First time you said it- I thought it was a typo! Wow.
I thought I saw somewhere else that these are still preproduction vehicles, so perhaps just like some materials are not quite finalized the sticker may not be truly representative. I do expect the hybrids to have lower payloads just due to the additional weight they carry but yeah quite a stark difference to the LC here so hoping it’s more when they actually start showing up on dealer lots.
4Runner is definitely a pre production model so that sticker isn’t accurate.
Because of the battery!
@@choangG27 the Land Cruiser has the same battery and hybrid system..
They’re completely different in terms of the final result
Land Cruiser has all the crawl control mts rear locker that the 4Runner has but WITH full time awd with a center locking diff, that’s a big deal. Not to mention it has kdss which is better at high speeds than a disconnecting swaybar optioned 4Runner
Kdss transforms ride on and off road
Disconnecting swaybar is only off road help and only for front
Kdss impacts front and rear
So really
The land cruiser is still better
And the 4Runner is still limited like before
If you want everything
How big is the fuel tank ?
In the US people seem to prefer the LC. In latin american we've had both for years and people clearly prefer the 4runner. interesting
At first I thought all the overlap between Toyota models would be a detriment but not so much now.
Toyota has effectively created different trims vs different models especially in the TNGA for the trucks, so you don’t have to go to another manufacturer to get what you want. The only question you have to ask is whose small displacement turbo power train do you trust more.
Hi Tim, nice video…enjoyed the review. No sir, not a fan of the TOYOTA on the 4R TRD pro passenger side dash. I asked my wife, same response not a fan. Nice trucks
TRD Pro weight capacity is lower due to the Fox shocks being designed for desert running. Same with the Raptor and ZR2/Bison. The regular 4Runners will have higher weight capacity.
It looks really nice BUT is a payload of just under 900lbs realistic?? That seems a few hundred light to me. I picture 4 adults towing something with gear in the back as a pretty standard scenario for the 4 runner and 900 lbs isn't enough for that.
So you get 4 big guys (200+) going on a hunt or something and thats already 800+
or maybe you gotta get your MIL from the airport
Disappointed with the Land Cruiser myself. I want the old drop down tailgate, I want a naturally aspirated engine option, and I want a manual transmission.
All come's down to 4Runner price.
Why even have a tow hitch with an 800 lb payload limit?
I think there are too many people who have decided to be UA-cam Vehicle Marketers. As a result, you hear many of them speak of $50K vehicles as being affordable and complain when an offering does not have heated/cooled seats. WAKE UP FELLAS!!!! The prospective customers for these vehicles is relatively small as these products have increased in price disproportionate to family incomes. So many people these days buy expensive cars and turn into social media creators to create revenue generating income. Go to the dealerships and these vehicles (new Tacoma) are filling up the lots going unsold. Once the initial fanatics get their LandCruisers and 4 Runners get their vehicles, these vehicles will start building inventories in dealer lots.
The real reason you see the Land Cruiser and 4 Runner as they use a common architecture, drivetrains, and other components. I suspect they could even be assembled on the same production line. The capital expenditure to produce both is relatively low as they share so much in common.
No
@@JoeBuck-uc3bl Yes
I just wish they have the 4WD Auto along with the rear diff lock and non hybrid version for the TRD PRO and Trail hunter! Is that too much to ask? Ford, Chevy and Ram offer it!
That’s gonna be the Off-road model. Hopefully
@@HD-on2eg Actually all they will have 4WD auto only the the limited and premium but without rear locking diff! Can't get both!
Go ahead and get a Ford, Chevy or Ram!
@@JPEBeard To clarify, It's not auto system. It's an all wheel drive system that you can "lock up" to 4Hi on the LC and Limited 4R.. I don't think Toyota will bother adding an Auto feature for their part time systems.The Part Time Transfer case is an oldshool bullet proof design that Off Road enthusiasts love and I don't think Toyota is interested in redesigning and adding more complexity to it. Their enginers would just tell you to get the Full Time 4wd found in a limited 4R, an LC, or a GX, thats why a full time option exsists.
@@jakejoebob So what is the difference with the Ford and Ram with 4a along with 4H and 4L options and a rear locking diff? Why can't you have all of it? ie a central, front, and rear locking diff?
Seating capacity on hybrid 4runner is 5 only.
I don't understand the value proposition for the Land Cruiser when you could get a gx550 for about the same price.
Isn’t the GX like 20% more expensive than a base LC?
@@ALMX5DP yeah the stripped down base model but when you get a mid or top tier LC your getting into GX 550 money. I'll take the twin turbo V6 any day over the 4cyl hybrid
@@BrianNC81 sure there is the powertrain but I think mid or upper LCs also have a disconnecting sway bar system, locking rear differential and probably a couple other items that base GX’s don’t get.
@@BrianNC81 Agree.
@@ALMX5DPGX gets EKDSS which is better and it also gets the Rear Locker for the overtrain. Idk why anyone would get the Land Cruiser except for the physical buttons
Agree with you on no shiny black on exterior or interior for that matter. Come on Toyota, stop it!
Land Cruiser 1958 with no options or greedy dealership mark ups please. Looks like more headroom in LC.
It's pretty simple
You going to want a 4 Runner or Land Cruiser
Taco interior
Or
GX ( like ) interior
It has 2400W inverter, not 240w.
yeah he kept making that mistake lol
He said 240v at one point too 😂
The TOYOTA on the 4runner TRD Pro passenger dash looks like an afterthought. Gaudy and looks like the letters could get ripped off. One thing to consider with the LC - if you decide to eventually lift it and put a spare tire on a swing out you might lose functionality of the rear lift window. Unless you can fit a 35" underneath, which I'm reasonably sure you won't be able to. I realize most people probably aren't doing that, but these are the things I think about :-)
I noticed how easily the plastic in the cargo area of the 4-runner scratched looking abused; and on a new vehicle! Something minor, BUT... isn't paying attention to detail is what Toyota engineering is noted for?
I would like to see a trd offroad in an sr5 !
A reviewer compares payload! Finally! 👏
The batteries and electric motor probably account for the low payload. Four 200 pounders and their luggage will exceed the payload!
There is a $50,000 spread in the price range for the three Utes (4 Runner, Land Cruiser & GX 550) from bottom to top. I'd say Toyota has done a excellent job of segmenting the market.
If we got the European diesel (real) Landcruiser with third row, this wouldn’t even be a discussion. I’d buy one tomorrow. Otherwise, I’ll just keep the ol 5th gen 4R.
The new Landcruiser is a cool new 4Runner. It’s unfortunate that it doesn’t have the roll down rear window. The 5th gen 4Runner seems nicer and more thought out than the 6th gen.
Some people don't like FSD, we just prefer to drive.......
Landcruiser customer is more affluent and older.
4-Runner is for most normal people.
But what are you getting for your extra $15k? Are people going to spend that much extra just because of the looks?
@@jessedowning368 All wheel drive all the time. It comes with the hybrid by default. For 4-Runner you have to step up to much higher trims to get those options if at all.
LC w/ Full time AWD and 4Runner w/ 4Hi 4Low
I like Toyota's simplicity and durability, way better than those fancy EV cars
4runner is the nicer truck to me. Interesting to know price on 4runner.
The 4 runner looks much better.
I’ll stick with my 2023 TRD OFF ROAD PREMIUM. Just something about the sound and durability of that 4.00LT V6 😅
Most of the new 4Runner is ok I guess.. But Toyota made a major goof on the new 4Runner.. They made the roofline way too low.. I mean WAAAYYY too low.. I personally would use the 4Runner for about 99% street only... I also like a higher roofline so I have good visibility in all directions.. But some people like to use the 4Runner to do some off roading. With going offroad you are going to bounce around in the drivers seat - your head will hit the roof with all that bouncing around. I think a 3" or 4" higher roofline would have made this 4Runner way way better for everybody. It would have looked better and bolder, and have more comfort and interior room - and would have way better outward visibility in all directions. I guess the aim for Toyota with this low roof was for (shorter) women and shorter Japanese people??.. Only thing I can figure...
I am old, but Land Cruiser is old school vibe, 4Runner is more adventurous looking.
Yes...this...im old too 😂
Yup. Agreed. 4Runner looks like it’s made for “teenyboppers” or those just slightly older, and LC looks like it’s for us old farts. Black 1958 ordered.
@@charliemcawesome5012 I’m definitely not a teeny bopper. But I prefer the 4 Runner. The LC looks decent, but a little bland. Not as bland as the 200 and 300 though. That 4Runner TRD Pro looks pretty good. Looks a little better set up for off-road too.
Who wants fulltime 4wd all summer on the road?
4runner is lifted - higher ground clearance, better offroad suspension, potentially heavier duty UCA. You don't get that in landcruiser. You might miss central locking differential that landcruiser has but its reliability in gnarly terrain is a question mark to me. So 4runner can tackle rougher terrain to my eyes
You only get that suspension in the TRD PRo and Trailhunter which will both be around $60k so not much less than the LC. Interior in the LC is a little nicer and more luxurious. LC looks like a vehicle for a more mature audience while the 4Runner looks like an RC car your kid plays with in the backyard. Also full time 4WD in the LC is nice to have and not available in the trailhunter or TRD pro
@@cheintz091 Labeling something like mature or kiddo is a bad idea. What do you want to say next? Asian vs white? People buy what they want. What I choose is none of your business. I can even buy a pink car and be happy with it. I was replying to the author what notable differences are there. Perhaps, what I missed mentioning was I was eluding to off road use case. If you really want to get into serious off road in stock form 4runner might do better specs wise but then again anybody can buy what they think is best for them.
Exactly. Because they can. There is a reason for that. I have zero interest in a 4runner and will be buying a Landcruiser You say there is little difference. You would be wrong.
I just like the design of the LC better. I had high hopes for the 4Runner, but thus far disappointed. Also loose the Piano Black!!! Especially on a “adventure vehicle”
895lbs is unusable. My wife and I are 1/3 of that not including 3 large dogs and stuff.
Crazy low for a BOF SUV. Curious on the curb weight.
Raised cargo floor is where Toyota is losing me with both 4Runner and Land Cruiser
I'm with you. The new 4runner has less overall height than the 5th gen, then if you want the hybrid (not sure I do) you lose even more interior height with the raised floor. For camping / overlanding if you put in a drawer system or sleeping platform you will have no room to sleep on top. Land Cruiser is taller inside, but you still lose 5-6" with the raised floor. Makes me think the GX may be the option IF you want to build out the interior for car camping. But then you lose get such bad gas mileage.
@@steveatherton5812 These are the thoughts that keep me up at night 🤣 Why can't someone design the perfect, minimalist car camping off-roader?
4Runner needs to get rid of the shiny black plastic on the exterior. Especially the fenders.
HiluxSurf (4runner) is always seats below the PRADO. always! The hierarchy of toyota SUV start with 1. Heavy Duty wagon, Land Cruiser (300) next is Light Duty Land Cruiser "PRADO" (250) then 4-RUNNER for US market or FORTUNER (Diesel) is east market (middle east/Asia/Japan/Australia)
I didn't know that Toyota was building Ford Broncos
I personally like the 4Runner. More aggressive. But i wouldn't say the pricing is the same.. the high end 4runner is the same price as low end Land cruiser. the 4runner TRD OR and up will be the better off roader.
I can't find a reason to buy 4Runner over the LC, unless there is a huge price difference
Trailer hunter 4Runner is just a way better off roader.
Tim your smart
THANKS!
I honestly dont like the new Tacoma and 4Runner interior. Looks too blocky tonka like with very hard and cheap looking plastics all over. The Land Cruiser interior is also pretty stark but looks a bit nicer.
Even here in Africa the Prado (land cruiser 150) kinda competes with the Fortuner(Hilux pick up based),but coz of the "Land cruiser" name the Prado comands a higher price to the Fortuner,hence the two are separated by just their names.
4 runner looks like it has better angles and ground clearance. If it wasn’t for that I’d take the Land Cruiser.
I feel that with the more head room and vertical rear hatch, a 3rd row in Landcruiser would have been more comfortable and effective compared to the 4Runner.
I’m hoping they offer 3rd row jump seats in the Landcruiser.
It seems quite odd that Toyota would put the 7 seat option in the vehicle with 6 inches LESS headroom - I'm curious as to how/why that decision was made? Perhaps price-point was their decision factor, but still - the comfort in the rear would be miles better in the LC given that metric, not to mention, the ability to have a higher rear seat height which would greatly help.
Because the LCs only engine option is the hybrid max. So that means the battery pack lives under the cargo floor making it not possible to have a third row. Yes, you can get a third row in the 4R, but only if you get the non hybrid engine.
@@steveguillory7568 good point!
Both use outdated 4wd systems that can’t use the rear locker in 4hi. Jeep does it, Chevy can, and ford too. Toyota can’t!
Hard pass on both. For the same price I can get a 2021 Land Cruiser or a GX 460 that is superior in every way.
4Runner is basically an SUV version of Tacoma.
I do like the looks of the 2025 4Runner.... the Land Cruiser? Not so much. I'd get a 4Runner for sure.... nice looking unit inside and out. Thanks for the comparison! Great video!
4runner... 895 payload? Horrible.
And the GX
Prefer the looks and payload of the LC. Prefer the 4Runner ground clearance, but I wouldn’t buy one with less than 900 lb payload.
This is about size and tastes because everything else on those cars are the same
I’m not buying a hybrid Toyota. You buy their off-road vehicles because they’ll run forever. Who wants to be stuck with a battery that needs replacement after 8-12 years? Even if you’re going to sell it before the battery needs replacement, who is going to buy a used Toyota off-road that is due for a new battery in 2-3 years?
All the boomers with their “BuT iTs OnLy GoT 4 CyLiNdErS!” 😂 🤦♂️
they look different but are virtually the same...
Man those payloads are so ass
Non of Lc 24 or 4runner 25 comes close to the beast 300 series man
Personally I don’t get the new Land Cruiser price. It seems like a downgrade from the new 4runner yet it costs more. Just plain weird. I do like it but I think it looks like a cheaper vehicle than the 4runner not more expensive. I do kind of understand what Toyota is doing by offering one plain Jane option to appeal to one type of buyer and a more chiseled, sporty option to appeal to others tho.
No the 4Runner has a different suspension and it’s more truck like
Real vehicles have round headlights. That's just the way it is.
My truck has square headlights.
Trail hunter 4 runner is best
New Land Cruiser does not have kdss
The the 4Runner front grill looks like it has a fat lip = stupid
4Runner all day no question
895lb payload is an absolute joke and people calling that trd pro an awesome vehicle are out of their damn minds.
Both expensive
Fender flares gloss black disgusting 🤮. LC clear winner
4runner looks good! Land cruiser is ugly.