Making a batch of Biodiesel from used Canola oil - HOW TO MAKE BIO-DIESEL!
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2022
- This is part 2 of my biodiesel series where we make a 100-litre batch of bio diesel from WVO using my home-build biofuel processor!
See Part 1 where I tell you 5 reasons to NOT MAKE BIODIESEL.
This is a science experiment and I do not recommend anyone actually makes or uses Biodiesel!
DO NOT MAKE BIODIESEL!
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Greg’s biodiesel processor - Наука та технологія
I ran a 50 gallon BioPro semi-automated machine for a bit over a year back the last time diesel hit $5 in the US. It was a great experience, but I always like people to know the bad with the good. Issue #1 was just acquiring enough used cooking oil to process. Most of the mainstream places like McD's etc all have contracts with larger companies to come pump their waste oil tanks. That left us with gathering up the scraps from various "mom and pop" places, and it's a nasty smelly process. We had a couple of 50 gallon plastic drums on the back of a small trailer, and a 12V pump. We'd spend half a Saturday driving around collecting up enough oil to process, then after we got back to our shop you would have to filter all the collected oil into other barrels, then heat/de-water the oil if it had been exposed to water, then load the machine with the oil, the methanol and the Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide, then start the machine. Then the #2 big issue was the waste glycerol.. not glycerin, because at that stage your separated glycerin still has a bit of methanol in it and is nasty stuff. So you either have to find some place to take the glycerol off your hands (and you'll have a LOT of it), or you'll need to do another process of separating they glycerol into methanol and glycerin, and then hope you can find someone to take all that glycerin off your hands. At the end of the day, it's a LOT of work, with a lot of messy oil, chemicals, waste products, etc.
all correct. I do not recommend individuals make biodiesel.
A few points:
- Fast food oil is no good because they use it to the end of its life and is full of acid. Too hard to process. The key is to get good clean oil from a local pub. I had one pub that had good clean oil they changed weekly and put it in plastic jugs for me.
- Most larger cities have waste disposal sites where you can drop off old oil, paint, etc. Take the glycerol there.
@@gregs_garage All good points. The processing of the oil, regardless of its condition, was never the problem. The BioPro would consistently produce ASTM commercial grade biodiesel every time. But it's extremely hard to find enough source oil, especially depending on the amount of diesel you need on a monthly basis. A few jugs from a small pub or restaurant would only be a drop in the bucket, at least in terms of what we needed, which was to make 50-100 gallons of biodiesel each month, enough to make it worthwhile from a cost perspective to fuel a couple of our trucks. I live in the suburbs of probably the capital city of petroleum production in the US, and while we do have a handful of centers that take waste materials, there is a service fee to do it, especially if you are dropping off a couple of 55 gallon drums of glycerol every few months, which adds to the cost of making it in the first place. I think there are "sweet spots" for how much you produce, such as a very small batch producer for minimal needs for car, small truck, etc, or much larger batches than even what we were producing so that the costs could be absorbed by a larger group, and utilizing the machine more frequently.
@@5thGenNativeTexan Yes the sweet spot is small production for sure. I run a 1.9 liter VW diesel that gets 40 MPG. I make Biodiesel and blend it into the tank with petroleum diesel a few gallons here and there. It works for this, but big volume production becomes a fulltime job.
I did the same thing. Semi automatic. I remember titrating the oil. We would go to the city and purchase a few 50gal drums of methanol. Had a few different transfer pumps. Run it through the processor. Then pump it into a 100gal cone tank. Let it sit. Drain the glycerin the pump it into a bubble wash drum. Wash it twice, then pump into a 1000gal tank I had. Ran our truck, tractors, heaters, ect... Lot of work! Pain in the ass. Gel up in cold weather. Plug filters. It was a learning experience though. I'm glad I did it. I have a long gravel driveway and build a spreader for the back of the tractor and coat the driveway with the glycerin. Tar and chip!😄
Just use gelatine to filter it.we use this process in the uk.
That's a REALLY nice setup. The only thing that could be added is an old top loader washing machine to agitate the mixed solution. However, you've essentially accomplished the same thing by recirculating your water heater for approximately one hour.
nice ! i read a paper once that mentioned the {glycerin/koh /alcohol} by product could be used as a rust remover , id be interested to find out if that is correct ,, i think they were heating it up and soaking parts in it , somewhere below the vapor temp , 120 degrees?
Very well.made video easy too understand...thank you
Ive watch the 3 part videos, and then this video multiple time and i am just fascinated by this whole process. I want/need to do this once in my life. Not many people know this, but this whole process can be produced self sufficiently. Solar panels to a car battery to produce, by electrolysis with seawater, sodium hydroxide. Chlorine and Sodium Hydroxide is produced in two chambers, the gas expelled is Hydrogen , this can be used to heat the Distillation of wood to produce methanol. Both used in the catalyst. You can also grow sunflowers to produce the oil. This can all be done at home, completely off grid. Pro tip. To avoid the inlet settling glycerine, run the pump with catalysis valve open to draw in air. This will force the remaining inlet tube up the side into the heater capturing all of the reacted biodiesel, allowing all glycerine to settle in one batch.
Interesting theories. How many sunflowers do you have to grow to make 100 litres of biodiesel?
Great video, love the set up.
How does this excellent video have only 58K views? It should easily have ten times that number!
I agree.
People are lazy. Would rather sit on their butt and watch TV.... Then complain about how expensive everything is...
Excellent video Sir.
Thanks for the awesome video and for all the info too. I'd like to know if this could possibly applied to used motor oil turned into Black diesel. I know I would have to filter it way down to remove containments down to possibly 1 micron with a centrifuge then into preheating but wanting to see if the chemical's being applied can possibly help with particulate matter separation such as soot. thanks again for the great video and info on your setup and helping other with their biodiesel ventures.
No the chemicals used for biodiesel have nothing to do with filtering old motor oil. Biodiesel and old motor oil are completely different substances.
Yeah... precarious is the word.
Nice touch using the water heater and the pump, though.
It is amazing that they manage to squeeze that much nutrient oil out of the top soil.
Good to have potential chemical facilities though for what not
No sure what you mean. Random words?
Great video, might build something like this on the farm to power the old tractor
do it. if you can get some oil. You'll love it.
do you have a parts list and affiliate links, for educational purposes.
Iv'e known quite a few people to make their own biodiesel over the years and a total of zero of them still do it, even though it worked and even though it saved them money. Its messy, time consuming un fun process but Ive seen another guy spin out the contaminates then just mix it with paraffin and thats it, I don't know what the cons are of doing it this way are though. Making this stuff seems like something that needs to be done at scale to be viable but by the time they add their margin on top how much cheaper is your fuel?
Hey Greg, great video, Is this fuel good for a diesel generator such as Denyo,Perkins...etc. its 25KVA ..??
probably ok - not sure of emissions on those (DPF, etc). The simpler the diesel engine the better it will run on alternative fuels.
Hi Greg,
I’m interested to know… with your water heater tank, did you buy it brand new or used ? Reason for asking is that if you naught it used how did you ensure that all the water scale and rubbish that accumulates and builds up inside when in hot water service is all removed before you use it for heating your oil ? Thanks mate
used. Flush some methanol and oil thru it first to dry it out. Also any crud will come out with the glycerol in the first batch. Finally the filter at the end will catch anything remaining
Im doing this in my organic chemistry lab. Super awesome.
Yea....well I'm about to do this in my backyard..
what about the water thats already in the oul from the supplier? don’t you let it settle in the first tank to drop any of that out or does that boil off anyway? why don’t you use a water washing stage near the end to further clean the oil? what do you then do with 20litres of ‘glycerine’ and methanol?? has the oils viscosity changed, thinned maybe?, because of the methanol? or is the methanol purely part of the reaction process and you expect most of it to be mixed with the glycerine waste? do you have a fuel preheater before your filter or combined with your filter to heat up and thin the oil/diesel mix? what ratios of oil to diesel do you use across the year? what about titration? do you add any anti oxidant? or microbial biocide to your mix? to stop the oil going rancid if its in your tank a while? or do you run a tank off pretty quick so preventing any stagnation….
When I was younger I grew up out in the "sticks" (very country small town). I'll never forget it, there was an ancient old man who had a nasty old IDI 6.9 liter diesel f350. I got to talking to him about the gross looking tank in the bed of his truck all plumbed in. He literally just went around and gathered up used fryer oil for free back then, and said all he did was heat it, filter it while heated, 1st through paint filter, then through an oil filter or something similar. After that it was ready, his waste oil tank had a heating element, he would warm the truck up on regular diesel, shut off the diesel with a valve and turn on the heated veg oil, it ran fine. When he was ending his trip he would turn off the veg oil and turn back on the diesel let the residual fryer oil get burned up in the engine (if not the truck wouldn't start again) 🤷 that's literally all he did. Long term side effects I never seen him again to ask...
good story - not biodiesel but yes old diesels will run on all kinds of oily liquids. For a while anyway.
What happens to this oil when filtered and spun in centerfuge. I've had trouble even burning it. Maybe it's junk?
Heating coil, connected to a controller, that is getting input from a thermometer. You can set 140 and it will only heat to that point and hold there. At least that’s what I would do from an industrial stand point. System like that come up to maybe $100
Where can a guy pick up the heaters and controlles ect...this 5.50 diesel is not cutting it. Over 100bucks to fill my freaking tank. This is all a bunch of bullshit. those communists destroying our country need to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are!
there's a thermostat in the water tank and it is set to 140. It shuts off at 140.
i wish ask about the heat air blower.What do you think it can work with an hair dryer? or what else simple machine is good to replace? What is it when in the pipes , inside the barrel (what is fulfill with gasoline) its coming back the oil in the plastic air pipe?? or the air push out from pipes? thanks
The air pushes out from the pipes and bubbles up through the biodiesel.
A hair dryer will not move enough air and will likely overheat and cause a fire. The hot tub blower i use runs cool and is designed to operate for hours.
I made plans for a similar system. I will turn my heater tank upside down in order to funnel and completely drain all contents of heater tank also making it more efficient at separating the glycerine and dirt that settle; hot water tanks usually have concave top and convex bottom (from inside). Thanks for the very excellent video
good point
Can you help please what problems are coming , when imnot washing the ready bioiesel with water? I mean im not washing out the catalyst will problem becouse from the alkaline chemical? thanks. and thanks for video, this is most clear ,smart, easy , im lik eit..
Dry washing will allow most of the catalyst to settle out to the bottom.
can you use or any uses for the glycerin and other contaminates, also can you use water to clean the biodiesel?, I love the way you explained the process, other question is can this biodiesel be used in modern diesel cars?? thank you
1. Glycerin - you can make soap. I made 20 litres a few years ago and still have lots left as hand soap. I've heard you can spray it on dirt roads to reduce dust also.
2. Water - yes in one of the videos I talk about water washing. You can mist water thru the fuel and drain it out the bottom. Then dry the fuel to evaporate any left over water. Messy and time consuming.
3. Modern cars - yes I think it is ok in smaller doses. Although I don't know for sure. I know that older diesels are more forgiving. I run a 2003 TDI and it is fine with a variety of fuels. I always blend my biodiesel with petroleum diesel anyway.
Yes, you can use fine misting of water, it drops down through the oil and pulls the fats out. But then you have to heat it up again and agitate it, to Dry the Bio-diesel.
I want to build a set up like this. Would you mind guiding me into building one? And then list the tools or stuff which I’ll need to successfully build one
First I do not recommend anyone build this. This is a demonstration video only.
In theory if someone were to build one (do not!), there is enough info in the videos. You would need to be somewhat creative to accomplish this goal. You cannot simply follow a formula or a parts list.
You need tanks, valves, pump(s), and various fittings. The rest is up to you.
@19:28 It took a bit of finding. The lower heater is 3000W @240V.
Power = V^2/R
The R of the heater doesn't change.
So half the voltage means quarter the power. I.E. 750W
ok makes sense. The oil heats slowly at 120v which is what I want. 750W seems perfect. I tried a 120V element and it burned out in a month and you could hear the oil sizzling.
where did you find the screen you use to filter the big chunks out?
Some online filter retailer about 10 years ago. They are out there.
How do you dispose of the by products the glycerine and whats left over from the reactant
Waste disposal in many cities take it
Interesting!
I got filtered oil. Ready to mix. I mixed with gas and acetone. Tried in my diesel heater. I think the pump had issues? I even thinned it out like crazy, trying. Still stops running. How much lubrication does that have vs diesel
I don't know. What you made is not biodiesel. It is oil thinned out with chemicals and I wouldn't use it. Maybe in an old tractor but even then maybe not!
Have you ever considered growing some oil yielding trees like pongame pinnata or copaifera langsdorffii? Im planting some pongame trees after winter so I can run the seeds through my oil press and extract clean oil for the biodiesel
no, you're not.
@@gregs_garage Your channel is UA-cam suppressed, just fyi. Have you considered your own methanol production? Even as a byproduct? Thanks for your work.
@@skeetorkiftwon what does "suppressed" mean? No I'm not making methanol
@@gregs_garage it means when I search "Greg's garage Biodiesel" and don't get any returns on the first page with relevant search terms like Greg's+garage+biodiesel and instead get (different) "Greg's garage" -biodiesel term, else get biodiesel -"Greg's garage" term, that means your video is being actively suppressed by UA-cam.
I found your video on my friends computer searching "making biodiesel" and searched you later on my phone using exacting "Greg's Garage biodiesel" and your channel was buried.
Since we both know biodiesel is a loss as far as a competitive product, so long as diesel is available, I was wondering, why make it, if you aren't attempting to go full self sufficient and make the lye and methanol yourself for the experiment?
@@skeetorkiftwon I wish I knew more about unsuppressing my channel.
I'm not sure making lye and methanol is practical or economic.
my total cost of KOH and methanol is less than 50 cents per litre. Diesel is close to 2.00 per litre at the pump. I'm happy to make Biodiesel for 50 cents and bank 1.50 per litre profit plus have the other benefits of using some biodiesel (environmental, lubricity, less black smoke exhaust, etc).
I have watched many methods for biodiesel, apparently glycerin is also used as a fuel its very flammable despite what the paperwork says. So some have opted to keep it in their biodiesel. To get rid of the junk in the vegetable oil in the method where glycerin is desirable, you would simply heat the oil and mix in gelatin powder which is easier to get ahold of, and then cool it down in a fridge. the gelatin latches onto impurities like a magnet as it settles. When the gelatin solidifies, what your left with is biodiesel on top of it because it won't mix with the gelatin. Simply pour out the liquid and remove the gelatin which took out any water or impurities from the solution which should be suspended in the gelatin. The amount of gelatin you need is somewhere around 15% to the solution. It creates a biodiesel that can run simpler diesel engines, and heaters. I wouldn't run it in a newer vehicle but I would in a generator. What I love about both versions is all of the ingredients can be made at home. (best to make the catalyst outside>>)The Catalyst is simply LYE crystals, which is made from burning hardwood (but other woods work too, hardwood has more concentration) and filtering water through the ashes and boiling the water off to make crystals. Methanol comes from making alcohol but alcohol also works to make biodiesel so basically you ferment your alcohol the typical way for three to four months, but since it is not for drinking purposes you can simply freezer distill it, which gets rid of the water and other junk, and use the unfrozen alcohol for it. The vegetable oil can be made in a mill you can order online for pretty cheap, it's made from any plant seeds you can find the biproduct is fertilizer. Make sure to label your ingredients. Gelatin comes from animal bones but I'm not really sure about that one. I know Gelatin is possible to make at home as well, but pectin might work as a substitute though may have a different result. The Pioneers could have made biodiesel technically so why not.
interesting theoretical ideas. Mostly not practical though.
@@gregs_garage Theoretical? These are bits of what other UA-camrs are actually doing. I'm just trying to bring the ideas together. Spark some creativity.
@@daniellapain1576 I think you have to crush a lot of seed to make oil. not worth it.
Hey Greg, great video. How do you dispose of the waste wash water?
I don't water wash. If I did, I would have to find some way to dispose of it at a waste facility.
@@gregs_garage what do you do with the waste glycerin? Do you dispose it at a waste facility as well?
@@Darksyne correct.
This is cool. Can i get plans? As I am paying $180 For 65 litres for diesel atm. I am not scientific at all 😶
I’ve heard the methoxide reaction that the catalyst undergoes is exothermic and that you shouldn’t do it in a plastic container. Do you know if that’s only with a different ratio than yours or are you using a plastic that’s better suited to high temperatures?
It does not get very warm. Maybe gets to 100F or something. HDPE plastic is tough - no issues
@@gregs_garage HDPE has a melt point of 125c (257F) so I think HDPE is fine lol.
Did you ever measure how much electricity is required to process say 100 litres and figure out a cost per litre? You seem to be a wealth of knowledge on bio diesel it’s a shame you now hate it lol! Great video Greg thanks very much!
very little electricity. The pump runs for maybe 2 hours and burns maybe 100 watts? The blow drier is maybe 500 watts for a couple hours. I'd guess 25 cents electricity total. Let's say it is $1.00. That's 1 cent per litre.
The biggest cost is methanol. Second biggest is KOH. Total cost about 30 cents a litre, or a dollar per gallon roughly. When fuel is $5.00 per gallon it works out well.
@@gregs_garage awesome! I would have guessed it cost much more! I daily a 2001 ALH which is fantastic because diesel is on average €2 per litre in Ireland at the moment! 250,000 miles on the clock and still averaging 50 MPG. I won’t ever bother with bio diesel, I don’t do near enough mileage yearly to justify it!
@@RobertE92 I drive a 2003 ALH. Diesel is not far from 2.00 CAD here. About 1.50 USD per litre
@@gregs_garage almost 2.50 cad here in NB today. Which is why I'm here lol
@@gregs_garage What is the kwh of your water heater? Or is it propane? Mine is 7kwh so it would cost a decent amount to heat all that oil
Awesome!! But I believe it’s PVC. Poly Vinyl Chloride.
At least you’re listening.
Do you mind sharing what the catalyst is?
KOH flake
After you heat the oil in the water heater why not pump it into a cone bottom tank for the reaction and especially the draining off of the glycerin and then later when you drain off the wash water. A cone bottom tank would save lots of frustration and allow ease of draining contaminants. I like the use of the hot tub air pump, good thinking. Why did you not do a water wash and settle to remove and any leftover base from the KOH and bring the final fuel as close as possible to neutral?
Cone tank is better but I didn’t have one and wanted less tanks overall. Water wash is great but then you have to deal with the water. My old VW seems fine on this stuff.
If you can make it cheaper than regular diesel you struck gold any trucking company will gladly do business with you if you can save them money and if your product works with no problems.
The problem is volume. I can only cobble together small amounts of cheap waste oil. Personal use is fine, but If you scale up it gets expensive fast
@@gregs_garage Yup you would have to make 1000 Gallons a week 4000 Litres to cover your costs for a warehouse and equipment. also that's if you have no employees and if you distill your glycerin for methanol. that should cut your methanol costs in half that's like $15usd a gallon cheapest on Amazon.
Last question from me, can a guy use 1” pex line and brass or plastic fittings? Or will it deteriorate the lines
I don’t know how PEX stands up to chemicals and oil. It’s worth a try for sure. PEX is great for plumbing. I’d do it if I built another one.
I saw in other comments the older the vehicle the better it runs. Will new diesel trucks required to be tuned to the fuel? Or does a guy need to run 50/50 ratio. I would think as long as the acid titrations are within permissible limits I’d be okay.
@@ethonbell5181 yeah the dpf and all that emissions stuff apparently doesn't like it. But who knows.
@@ethonbell5181 that's a good question. I was kind of wondering that myself because I don't really want to mess with my tuner rite now ..my truck's running great on this 5.50gallon b*******
Is that pump a standard transfer pump, or is it rated for fuel?
Just curious if the pump seals would go bad more quickly if it is a standard transfer pump...
its not rated for anything. it's a donkey pump rated for water. It has lasted 14 years so far.
What do you do with the byproducts?
Waste station. Glycerin is biodegradable so not a large concern
What do you do with the glycerin resulted?
I have made soap before but mostly just return it to household hazardous waste recycling program here...
I know ur in Canada but where do I look to buy Methanol from? Looking online I am seeing prices of $500 for a 53 gallon barrel. At this price bio fuel wouldn't be cost effective
check local chemical companies. but you are right - methanol is expensive and it may not be worth it.
@@gregs_garage thanks
Could you not re run the process to clean the diesel even more? Also could you not make the catalysts out of other common chemicals? Last suggestion put a 90 on that drain pipe for removing the nitro. Thanks for the video
yes you could re - process but the economics go downhill. What common chemicals do you have in mind? KOH bought in industrial strength and quantities is hard to beat. Common chemicals are expensive and not sure what you suggest. The 90 is not a bad idea but I like to see the glycerin come out horizontally.
Can you share a .PDF blueprint of how you build the Reactor/Processor?
Can you do a video on how to make Gasoline from Oil as well.
1) No.
2) No. I'm not building a refinery.
Tacit
What do you use the glycerin for?
I made soap. Once.
Nice set up im retired with lots of time lol
Have you tried the gelatin method of removing contaminants from the used oil? Then doing a 70/30 ratio mix with kerosene? (70% oil/30% kerosene) The total cost will still be less than the current price of diesel. No added cost of electricity, no dangerous chemicals, no chemical by products to dispose of. Just some solidified gelatin that can be used to fertilize the garden. My neighbor's brother runs his farm tractor on diesel made with this method.
no. That is not biodiesel. That is some sort of cleaned up waste vegetable oil mixed with Kerosene. Nothing to do with Biodiesel.
@@gregs_garage Hmmm... May not be "official Biodiesel" but it runs great in his tractor (Kubota). He just brush hogged 13 acres of my land for me over yesterday and this morning. Just sayin'...
@@research903 it might work for some engines. for a while anyway. Who knows what veg oil and chemicals will do to injectors and other parts eventually.
What do you use or do with the waste?
waste station.
Iran a 1981 volks wagon on waste canola oil by simply by cleaning it using a cream separator as a centrifuge and pouring directly into my fuel tank. Now the temperature had to be 16c or above for starting, but on the upside, there was nothing to dispose of
Except the motor
Would this process with beef dripping?
yes animal fats are ok but would have to be liquid (warm)
I like the face blaster valve. One wrong move and you’re the elephant man.
What valve?
Can you use this oil to power generators or sump pumps?
older diesels will run better than newer ones on alternative fuels, in general
Only if they're diesel
@@gregs_garage how about an o8 ram 2500 with a built motor with meth injection, deleted b.s, a 4 stage programmer, ect? I'm assuming I'll have to have 2 tanks..a tank heater, line heaters ect...start off on the straight diesel and then switch over to the oil once everything is rolling.?
@@billyjones9045 Biodiesel is similar to regular diesel. No mods required if you don't have emissions b.s. except in cold weather you should blend with petroleum diesel because biodiesel gels.
You are thinking of waste vegetable oil with separate tanks, etc. WVO is silly.
@@gregs_garage
Four years on WVO with no issues in my ALH. Looking to get into bio though. I would rather have more “going on” in the garage and less on the car. Great vids btw. Some comments saying you hate bio diesel but it seems like you say it with a wink wink nudge nudge. I know it can feel like a hobby sometimes but the savings are awesome.
Can u use glycerin for anything?
makes nice soap. I think you can put it on gravel roads for dust control.
I didn't see you do any titration tests in the beginning to check to see how acidic your oil is. also no mention of a quality check before or after your finish tank. I did see some small glass jars in the video so maybe you just left those steps out for some odd reason. have you ever done a water wash to remove methanol ?
1) I get good clean oil so I know the quality and how much koh to use. I titrated a long time ago and have a feel for it.
2) I have done tests on the finished product just not for this video.
3) I have a water wash mister in this tank. I have used it. I don't like the oily messy water that has to be disposed of.
Yes, I was wondering about Titration, because it can change the amount of KOH you use.
Hey you didnt talk about the need to check the oils acidity content to calculate the correct amount of catalyst.
The catalyast is to get rid of the acid in the oil. More dirty the oil contains more acid so an acidity test needs to be done to the oil to determine how much catalyst to use. If you use too much the diesel will be Alkaline, if you use too little the diesel will be Acidic, both are bad for your fuel system pump seals and cause corrosion of the fuel system in your vehicle.
right - i didn't get into that. My oil is clean low acid so I use the base amount of catalyst plus a little bit.
Interesting
I enjoyed that... 🙂
Once the reaction between the biodiesel and Methanol occur. Could you boil both the biodiesel and glycerin at about 150-160 degrees to extract the methanol?
I don't think so. I wouldn't be boiling fuel and methanol. one spark and you're done. There are ways to extract methanol but IMO it is not worth the risk. penny wise and pound foolish.
Where’s the cheapest place to get methanol?
How much biodiesel can be obtained from 1 liter of waste oil.
~1 liter
Can we use athanol....?
I have attempted to use ethanol in stead of methanol. I believe it to be possible but then an amount of water also has to be put into it. I had a good look at the chemical formulas and found that some extra Hydrogen (it is getting that from the water) was needed.
I never actually used it as diesel in any motor. I just made the experiment. It at least made soap so it must have worked. I didn't heat it either and it still appeared to work but possibly slover. I had it standing for maby a week. The reason for not using it in a motor was thatit was only a small amount that I made as the vegie oil was more expensive than diesel. The economy was wrong. I have some old diesel tractors that would have been fine to use it in and I may consider it if diesel become scarse in the future.
So, what does it cost you a Litre to make the Biodiesel?
40-50 cents
I saw a guy comment about using old ATF I would like to learn about that
old diesels will burn lots of different oils. just filter it a lot and cross your fingers.
@@gregs_garage what about ur tdi. Would you feel comfortable trying ATF or waste Motor oil in a pre 03 TDI? Not asking you to do it but just knowing about the tdi engine would it hold up decently to it do you think?
@@BRWfilms Maybe. But who knows what contaminants, acids, chemicals, or whatever may be in that stuff and what effect it has when it burns? I wouldn't use it. Maybe in an old throw away engine but not in a car I want to keep.
@@gregs_garage fair enough 👍👌
@@gregs_garage I ended up buying a centrifuge. I'm processing all waste motor oils trans rear end ect and burning it in my ALH and 12 valve now
this is only good for SHTF situation, at the moment we still can buy diesel which is probably cheaper in time and buying by products,
how about instead using pyrolysis/gasification/synthesis of grass into various standard heavy light oils gases, instead of chickening out of the biodiesel for some fear reasons
You first
@@gregs_garage just a free suggestion, nothing have-to, and someone will
I am cautious with Bio diesel, when running pure in a 20 thousand plus dollar engine, gum up the rings quickly Canola is bad for that. Warranty is void, I know used to use it. Lot of work, spills mixed with methanol glycerine is a bi product that one has to dispose of. Environmentally. This seems to always make a hit when fuel goes up in price. When it drops, nobody does it. plus, having a loyal oil base supply very hard. been using it for 10 years plus.. Diesel engines around 10% more as a lube. or some mix with gas depending on the Temperature, 20% gas to 80% bio. you can really smell the gas fumes when mixing.
I agree it gets popular when fuel prices are high.
I wouldn't mix gasoline with it. When it is cold I blend with winter diesel fuel and sometimes some kerosene. Very cold temps I may run 10%. Then adjust upward depending on the weather.
Leave the methanol in. It reduces viscosity and increases atomisation of the fuel.
It also hangs onto the soap and glycerin as I understand it. My old TDI probably doesn't care though...
You could probably leave it in if you made batches when it is cold outside, sub freezing. Then final filter it through a sock filter catching the soap, sterols, and particles.
Cold filtering is what large scale processors use. They also heat, evaporate, condense, reuse the methanol.
I wonder if you could get away with just running the old oil through a filter and making a B50 mix?
it's not biodiesel so it's not B50. If you're talking about old oil and 50% petroleum diesel then it may run ok but probably much harder on components than proper biodiesel.
Well just found this Channel and to be honest for the average guy would maybe run this process once / Twice a year just to run his lawn mover type machine 100 Ltrs would last quite a while, enough time to collect more dirty oil, Most modern engine cars would have problems after a while. it's more of a hobby thing. just saying. well done for sharing though.
where are your fiters you only used a screen so your Biodiesel is dirty Diesel you did not use a 5 or 1 micron pre-filter and do you do a water wash on it ??? as the your using the chemical reaction method so if you did porper filtering and water washing you could run it with no issue with out mixing or you could do 80 bio 20 diesel mix but all and all a decent setup
I don’t think pre-filtering is necessary. Just a screen is enough. I can run this 100% biodiesel no issues in 15 years
@@gregs_garage the method I use I can run it in winter down to -15 in canada without mixing with diesel or solvent and prescreening and water washing makes it compatible with modern diesel engines and 0 chance of damaging the injectors or clogging them I go thought the extra steps because i run it in my 2022 duramax and my 2 2020 6.7s all year round and my older trucks run on ot too and I also convert old oil and tires into fuel that I mix with it for any thing below -20
@@SaerTurner I doubt pre-screening or water washing have anything to do with low temperature performance.
A Canadian using CANola oil to make biodeisel... NICE.
I really like the setup. But one thing that he said that almost made me exit the video. For ANY vehicle, it MUST be clean. Just a screen at the start is not good enough in my opinion. It should always run through a much better filter system before ever starting. Contaminates will eventually clog the system. Then at the end, starting with a 10 micron filter is good, but should go through at least a couple more filters like a 5 then a 2. Last thing you want is a small particle that got past the 10 to kill an injector. With fuel, cleanliness is key.
I've made a similar system myself a long time ago. Ran my tractor on it. Stopped using it when someone stole my tractor.
Any particles fall out in the processing. No need to filter the raw oil other than the big chunks. At the end nothing is getting past a 10 micron filter. If it does, the fuel filter in the car will catch it. Nothing is getting to the injectors. You’ll introduce bigger particles at the gas station pump than you ever will during this process.
That was more about the system you made, and less about the making of biodiesel. my oh my that was one complicated vesion.
about as simple as it gets.
Don't you water wash your solution?
no. too messy. see the video.
la question ? avez vous suprime la glycérine dans l huile végétale avent de la mélanger ! la glycérine est responsable du blocage
des pistons et les segments de compression et vas ruiner
le moteur diesel bien sûr
CI vous avez soutirer la glycérine YA PAS DE problème
🙂
This ain’t quebec
Settle and Filter oil good mix it with diesel and run it.
that may work. I prefer to process into Biodiesel then mix with regular diesel.
I'm DEFINTELY NOT going to do any of this...😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
Looks like overkill process. I saw other UA-cam content creator that filter the used oil to 1 micron then thin out the oil 50/50 with diesel and done. No extra Glycerol to dispose. Ive never done this before but looking to get an old diesel truck to try it out. Anyone try that method??
that's not Biodiesel. It's veg oil mixed with diesel. It may work (for a while) in some engines, but it has nothing to do with Biodiesel.
dude your cough is serious, make sure your ventilation is working fine cuz I think it's not :)
im abt to ask his address to send him a fu**ing respirator, not a joke dude, take care!!!!
Here is a simpler method without the glycerol waste. Also this method technically isn’t biodiesel because on the chemistry.
ua-cam.com/video/cOm516Vx_Jk/v-deo.html
yeah, none of that stuff is Biodiesel. Lots of stuff will burn in diesel engines. My video is about making Biodiesel. all these other videos are about making oily concoctions that may burn in a diesel with unknown long-term implications.
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Lol it should literally be as simple as straight pouring in vegetable oil into your gas tank but no modern diesels don't want it.
SVO causes problems in old diesels too
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I make diesel from waste motor oil... i make 10x profit on it
An easier method is to mix gelatin in water, dissolve it with a little heat then add to the filtered oil, ( filtered to remover larger bits) leave till the gelatin settles and solidifies, then remove the oil as ot is now clean, once empty get rid of the solid gelatin in your waste, the oil now has no smell of food and add 10% of your methanol, ready to use. All this kerfuffle is just not needed try it on a small sample, one liter add 5g of gelatin dissolved in 200 ml water. Much easier. Found this from a guy that found this method in a patent.
that's not biodiesel. it's veg oil mixed with chemicals. completely different.
I'm disappointed the process is so involved. I know a place where I can lay my hands on never used canola oil, 5,800 gallons, for free.
Why do you continually state that ppl shouldn't do this? They have every right to, if they so desire & can do it safely
sure. I do not recommend it for the reasons stated. People have free will though.
You sure do make allot of excuses on why you shouldn't but in fact you SHOULD make BIODiesel! Saying that there are times where you shouldn't. Some of the newer vehicles have engines where it doesn't like it and gaskets and other parts would degrade. So, you need to check all of that first. As far use making and using it on vehicles, heaters, etc that can, you should. You should make it if you can. Problem these days it's hard to get a solid volume of it. And before you ask, yes, I have made and used BIODiesel. Just careful in what I use it in.
I don’t recommend any individual make it for 5 reasons and more
Good info, but damn you talk to much!!
lots to explain
Why not just burn the cooking oil with 50% diesel and it'll be fine
On older motors maybe. Not a bad idea to try it. Safer to make proper biodiesel though.
It is the worst video I've ever seen in youtube dont make videos like this
Be careful
thank you.
One of the most annying videos, as too may "uh", "um" and "urp" in the speach.
Really bad way to tell how something is done,
and many more errors.
There are housands who can tell better, and show more clearly how it is done.
you first.
the time you put in doing all that would be more than what the fuel is worth if you bought it at the pump
diesel is expensive. This generates about $150 of profit every time I do it. worth it to me. not for everyone though I agree but it's also a hobby.
Each element in the water heater is 125 volts ... don't want to confuse some of the people using this as a how to and send 250v into 1 element boom
Nobody should attempt any of this.
That said, I use a single 240 volt element running on 120 volts. Heats low and slow.
Also, these 240v hot water tanks do not have two 120v elements. They have two 240v elements.
Omg Walter White is a real person and he had a child with Ron DeSantis and now I’m watching him on UA-cam 🫢
How funny are Canadians ?
so funny eh?