Thank you for the video series! I learned a lot! i used to run straight WVO in my old ford about 7 years ago. Worked great, Put on a lot of greasy miles! Then got busy with life and family etc thinking i am going to get back into it but make bio diesel instead. A bit more expensive but i should be able to tun it in my tractors and trucks with little to no modification. Thank you for the great over view of your process and set up.
I really appreciate the time you took to share your biodiesel plant! There is a comment state it you got lots of hate, I have no idea why that would be but just ignore the haters, haters will always hate! Thanks again!
Very informative. I've owned a 2001 7.3 truck for about 15 years and that old turd will burn anything. HEUI injection systems are resistant as hell. With the uncertainty in fuel ill be building this set up. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the great Videos. @ 9:58 you plug in the air pump. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but please try to push the plug all the way in. you leave it partially hanging out. This can cause a bad connection that may cause a fire. The other down side is that the Active and Neutral pins are exposed meaning that a freak accident could cause a serious injury. As an electrician I have seen these issues happen.
I don understand why there are trolls on many channels. But just ignore them. They will never stand face to face, they are cowards. Just ignore them so the rest of us can benefit from your ideos
Thanks very much. I watched the whole series but only commented here. In Australia people use old fish and chip oil and apparently smells like the food tastes. Great setup you have, obviously refined over a period of time and trial & error. They say that Bio cleans out all the crap that grows in your tank and lines, and you will clog up filters the first time you use it, but maybe that's 100% Bio. It's not a bad thing, just something to be aware of. Did you have any experiences like that? Thanks again for posting - very interesting, cheers.
thanks Murray. yes Biodiesel has solvent properties so it will "melt" buildup from the sides of the fuel tank even in small doses like B20. I change the filters regularly and have never had one plug up. Once using Bio for a while your tank will be clean and you can reduce the filter change interval, but it's so cheap to change a filter once a year I just do it anyway.
For starters, thank you for this video series. It has been very informative and much more streamline than other systems I have seen. I have 4 quick questions if you have the time. 1) After you air dry the diesel, do you need to drain the soap from the bottom of the tank? 2) Do you have a stand pipe in the final tank to prevent pulling from the bottom when filling up your vehicle? 3) Could you introduce the meth-oxide into the same tank you put the dirty oil into instead of using a separate pipe/container? 4) Do you do a titrate test before each batch? Thanks again.
1) yes some soap and crap falls to the bottom and I drain it out. 2) yes there is a 6" stand pipe to take the cleaner fuel from up a bit... 3) You could do that but I think it would be more dangerous to dump that stuff into the oil tank vs. mixing it in a container and introducing though a hose like I do. 4) No I titrated some samples at the beginning and understand how much KOH is required for my oil. I only use relatively clean "dirty" oil so just a bit more than the "base" amount and it seems to work out. It's probably not a perfect reaction but runs well in my TDI.
Just my 2c - I run "processed" fuel in a common-rail diesel, my own crd - I want that fuel to run good. I also understand all the ideal "final parameters" of the processed fuel. I also understand industrial scale processing - that's my background, If you really think this process through - what's the end in mind? - then it can be accomplished in a "1 Pass System" through 1 vessel with absolutely contaminated crap going in one end & thoroughly cleaned, usable product coming out the other. - with the absolute minimum expenditure. Caveat is "the absolute minimum" expenditure will make most people go "No way!" and forget about it because its quite a bit of cash outlayed - if you take the short view. If you take the long view, its cheap as chips per liter of output product - the up-front costs put most people off. Per liter of usable fuel, it's a no brainer - initially it seems high because suddenly you're dealing with volume. You chuck 20 quid of pump-fuel in your tank - that's c.a 10l. You want to process 200L? That costs. . 1000l is more still - but the cost per liter is very different. Long view. Everyone told me no way could a CRD run on processed WMO - no chance.. You'd need to be running an old-school diesel. Well... CRD's run just fine if you process it properly. There's a viscosity to hit. Hit that, it's gravy.
Great series. Thank you! I learned several things I'm going to use on my plant. I really rather like the air drying. Couple of questions: 1) That looks like 1 inch (25mm?) PVC. Is that correct? 2) How far does your PVC tee extend in the bottom of the final barrel to allow you to have 30 - 50 holes drilled in it? and 3) Do you have a link (or other contact info) to your source for the hot tub air pump?
1) I think so. Whatever fits it doesn’t really matter it’s just air. 2) maybe 12-15” out in 4 directions. It’s a 4-way splitter. Just drill a bunch of holes. 3) no. Google it. It was a long time ago. Any cheapo hot tub pump is fine. Finally, do this at your own risk!
Another correction, soaps are caused by free fatty acids in the oil stock - avoiding them by using less catalyst (so leaving the acids in solution) is not good practice.
On average how long does it take, from start to finish, for the whole process? Also, would you be willing to share a diagram or blueprints to your setup? Asking from uk, as couldn't get my head around the valve/pump system after a few beers lol. Very good series overall though!
thanks. I've been asked about a diagram but I don't think so. The videos should spur enough ideas to make your own system. it is part art part science.
You probably do want to do a better job of fume extraction... liver transplants are a pain in the ass... very good series of videos, thank you for taking the time to show and tell.
Awesome setup you made! Only thing that worries me is when you are drying the fuel. You basically you make a methanol air mixture.... Not only could it explode but methanol vapours are very toxic, why don't you put a exhaust fan above the tank when you are doing this. It really worries me. Greetings!!
@@gregs_garage still I would put a forced suction on it, now it's just dispersing everywhere, and if there is no wind it will just hang there or worse, if the wind is so that it sucks the air in your house by negative pressure.... Read the msds of methanol, it's way creepier than ethanol. Greetings, and thanks for the video!
Dear Lord, you are ready for WSHTF. Do you stock up on methyl alcohol by the barrel? How would you source it if methanol is in shortage. Can you make your own methanol?. I feel giddy just watching your video. There is an Asian guy on YT who makes biodiesel manually, tin can, thermometer, stick, gas stove, hand mixing and 3 or water washing. He says he doesn't care to spend a lot of money on equipment but his diesel is good for the farm tractor and his hauling truck. Thanks man. Subbed and liked.
Thanks. I buy methanol by the barrel. One barrel is enough to make about 1000 litres of biodiesel. It is the only economic way to buy it. Buying at Home Depot by the gallon is very expensive. I think methanol can be made but I don’t know how. It’s cheap and available so I have not looked into it. Stay tuned for more videos.
@@gregs_garage thanks for replying. I have an 18 year old Mitsubishi diesel SUV that looks and drives like it was bought last year. I refuse to sell it. I am hoping that it would run smoothly on biodiesel. That's why I was giddy to find your video. I thought it would be like rocket science to make clean biodiesel, but as you've shown, it is quite simple. Methanol I heard is not that hard to brew. Maybe it can be your next project. Thanks Sir.
Thanks for the very informative video I just have a quick Question. For the last step instead of using hot air, what if I used an emersion heater and heated the raw biodiesel to around 170 degrees farenheight, would that not get rid of the excess methenol and clean it?
@@gregs_garage diesels are pretty forgiving.. if you can run used cooking oil in it... I'm sure any form of refined and washed biodiesel is good to use.
@@youareallalone That's true of older systems, but modern systems are far less forgiving. Anything made in the last 15 years or so is going to be a lot more sensitive to bad fuel.
very intersting series and well detailed over all how much do you spend on consumables (oil, methanol and potassium hydroxyde) to produce 100 Liters of fuel and electrecity consumption too? did you ever try to use mineral oils ? i've seen some guys just put old engine and transmission oils into their old diesels 😆
I would say… Oil free if you have a source Methanol $30-40 KOH $5 Electricity $1-2 Probably works out to 40-50 cents per litre. I don’t like the idea of old oils because of the contaminants - not sure of their effect on things like pump and injectors. Maybe clean ATF or new motor oil is fine in small doses.
How's the injector and other components holding up? Anything that would be abnormal maintenance for running bio diesel. Your process and setup seem effective and efficient.
Just getting interested in this Greg, do you really think air washing is better than water washing? Other than the dirty water disposal, does it leave the fuel cleaner?
Just a suggestion use a cone bottom tank using a hot water tank heating rod let the junk settle to bottom drain like 80% of junk then filter to 1micron is what I do and so easy and fast
@@gregs_garage I can get the site I got mine more cheeper then anyone else and I looked for months and no wash. Heat it up to 110 fahrenheit let us sit for a good time I go a year but I do hundreds of galls and filter with a water drain and a 3 stage filter 20 10 5 then a 1micron filter
@@gregs_garage how isn't it I use mostly waste oil gear oil tranny fluid hydrologic fluid thats very bio-diesel. I run it in my Cummins injectors are not cheep injector are very fine and and sensitive iv increased my mpg. been doing it for over 10 years.and in your video you also have a filter on it.and I also make gasoline out of it.and you also use chemicals I don't so also save more money you don't need chemicals to make fuel out of wvo
If a guy was going to water wash the biodiesel, roughly how much water would he needed for a 40gal batch? Also where abouts in Ontario are you? I’m in Manitoba and wondering if I can run in winter months. Thanks again, wish you had more videos on your channel.
I think you need to run maybe 10 gals water thru but it’s been a long time. I’m in Alberta don’t confuse with those eastern weirdos. You can run small blends maybe 20% in winter. Depends on temperature. Also kerosene blending will help when cold. More videos to come what do you want to see? I can make anything
@@gregs_garage sorry, didn’t mean to mix up where you are. For what it’s worth I’m happy to hear that your an Albertan. Do you think that a centrifuge would help in anyway for the later stages of processing/washing or best left for initial filtering? More biodiesel videos would be cool but you did a fantastic job of making your series. Looks like you have your hand in some other interesting things. Do you do much in terms of house / energy related alternative methods?
@@AndrewMarsch initial filtering is not required. Maybe if you were running straight veg oil or motor oil you would use a centrifuge. I only filter the incoming veg oil using a coarse screen. Any particles fall out in the glycerin during processing. The light biodiesel is on top and very clean. Not sure about centrifuge at the end. May be a good way but I just dry wash then run it thru a 10-micron farm filter and it runs good in the VW TDI. Solar panels are next. With the subsidies and better modern panels it finally makes economic sense (I think). Here you can get the meter changed and run it backwards to sell power back to the grid for about 0.12 per Kwh
I don’t think so. Soap stays stuck to the biodiesel until the Methanol is gone. Then the soap falls out with gravity. You want biodiesel to be slow burning not explosive
@@ryanthiessen4562 I don't know - maybe pour some methanol or gasoline in there after it's all clean. Seems like Playing with fire. Better to tune your unit to burn more fuel and air without the magic sauce.
I kept my Jetta TDI even after the whole diesel-gate scandal. You still have yours? Cool setup and video by the way, thanks for taking the time. If I may ask, how much was all these tanks and gear?
5:16 If you have access to cheap to free electricity or firewood, you could distill methanol out, then you should get pure water, or least pure enough to maybe dump to drain (dont quote me on that) and finally you have contaminant left that can be given to waste disposal company, but at that point it should be so little it wont cost barely anything, least what you have left from that stage. Also that is lots of air. How that air is purified so there wont be further contaminants ending up into fuel? Hot tubs generally dont require 10 microns filtering, so i doubt its own filter is enough. I would consider adding large HEPA filter intake of the airpump. Issue with the contaminants is that fuel filters get much faster. One thing to consider is air humidity when pumping air in, it might condense into fuel and then you have water contamination, so there might be thing to consider based on your location and climate. Furthermore hows the cost of this process comparing to petroleum diesel before taxes prices, or "burn oil" not sure if this is thing in abroad, but here its less taxed version of diesel for non road use? Ou and whats the cold tolerance of this fuel and how to make it "winter bio diesel"?
Is it possible to use high quality e85 ethanol instead of methanol? Also would reheating the biodiesel after draining off the byproduct remove the soaps, methanol and other contaminates to the bio diesel?
e85 is 15% gasoline. I doubt you want to mix gas into the process. Use 100% methanol. or ethanol but good luck finding 100% ethanol. reheating the final product does nothing. you need to wash it with water or air or other media.
i am trying to make my first biodiesel and all is fine until i water wash at 130deg F and then it all goes a creamy colour and stays that way, can anybody advise on this very annoying problem. i will be setting up air drying the same as greg has done.
May be incomplete conversion, or maybe too much catalyst so there are chemicals and methanol in the fuel that is mixing with the water. I had trouble with water washing also.
Do you or, how do you keep track of how much fuel you're putting into the vehicle so you can keep track of the cost and of the fuel consumption of the vehicle?
@@gregs_garage thank you sir... Cause in my experience for separate metanol and koh I give hot water and mix it.. Its not effective.. Thank you. I will try. Nice experience sir. God bless
@@ivanparakosov1202 for my oil approx 20% methanol and 1.1 kg of koh. But you really need to do more research and understand why the proportions are what they are and what quality of oil you have. I do not recommend making Biodiesel. This is a DEMO video only.
@@ivanparakosov1202 no, but they get clogged while the biodiesel cleans your fuel tank. Bio is a solvent. So change the filter more frequently for the first year or two.
restaurants (sometimes) and people who cook turkeys, wings, etc know that they can drop oil off with me. I just gradually gather oil until I can do a 100 litre batch.
Hi WHY would a airblower separate/clean the biodiesel? First time I have ever seen this on any youtubevideo. If you know were you got this idea from so write it here if you want 🙂
I suppose in theory yes. Practically though, having a filtering/gathering tank, a heating/reaction tank, and a cleaning/final tank is easier to execute.
@@gregs_garage can the glycerin not be used for something? Ie the companies that collect waste oil to turn into biofuel, they must have a use to up cycle the glycerin as well?
i bet if you checkout skimmer for saltwater fishtanks, you'll be able to better adjust your system air cleaning can i ask where you buy methanol & the bag Chemicals
Buy at a chemical dealer. You may need a business or licences depending on state rules. Not sure on a skimmer. The air needs to be high volume for it to work.
@@ThePablojoker interesting. Well dry washing the way I do it doesn't cost much - gets rid of some methanol and some crap does fall out the bottom so I feel better about it.
What??? Why are you doing that? You waste up your time and you make business with very dangerous chemicals! I have long time ago the same WV car like you are. I just clean WVO very clean and mix with petrol 15 % and have never ever any problem with that. In the winter time mix 50% wvo - 30% diesel - 20% petrol and it’s work for me perfect. Only you need to change fuel filter every 6000 miles, and that it’s all.
I think you both are correct. Its pretty common practice to use WVO + a thinner (gasoline being the most common). All the thinner is doing is making it less hard on your pumps. Many other thinners you could use as well and other “recipes”. Generally you still need to filter this very very well. Nothing wrong with making actual biodiesel either, and that is certainly going to be easier on your engine and not tear up your filters and gum up your injectors. Not sure you can argue that working with gasoline is less dangerous than methanol? Both have similar levels of toxicity, and methanol is less flammable. One is from petroleum, one is from natural gas.
The series is much appreciated. Much more illustrative of home brew than other vids out there.
Great thanks. I try to present things in linear step by step ways. Anything else doesn’t make sense.
Thank you for the video series! I learned a lot! i used to run straight WVO in my old ford about 7 years ago. Worked great, Put on a lot of greasy miles! Then got busy with life and family etc thinking i am going to get back into it but make bio diesel instead. A bit more expensive but i should be able to tun it in my tractors and trucks with little to no modification. Thank you for the great over view of your process and set up.
yeah WVO can cause more problems. Biodiesel is great. I blend with petro diesel.
I really appreciate the time you took to share your biodiesel plant!
There is a comment state it you got lots of hate, I have no idea why that would be but just ignore the haters, haters will always hate!
Thanks again!
yeah I don't see much hate in the comments - maybe I don't see all the comments? Nothing seems too bad in the comments.
Very informative videos. Thank you for sharing. I wish I lived near by to see and learn in person. Lol.
Very informative. I've owned a 2001 7.3 truck for about 15 years and that old turd will burn anything. HEUI injection systems are resistant as hell. With the uncertainty in fuel ill be building this set up. Thank you for the video.
Thanks. A friend is selling me his 2002 Excursion 7.3 soon. Watch for videos.
Thanks for the great Videos. @ 9:58 you plug in the air pump. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but please try to push the plug all the way in. you leave it partially hanging out. This can cause a bad connection that may cause a fire. The other down side is that the Active and Neutral pins are exposed meaning that a freak accident could cause a serious injury. As an electrician I have seen these issues happen.
Sorry you got so much hate in the comments bro, it's a good series, and a good system.
People who sit on their asses and do nothing hate those who get up and do something.
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great narration i learn from your considered choice of words and distinction of thoughts in your delivery....top drawer!
means a lot Dale. I never know if I make any sense.
I don understand why there are trolls on many channels. But just ignore them. They will never stand face to face, they are cowards. Just ignore them so the rest of us can benefit from your ideos
Thanks very much. I watched the whole series but only commented here. In Australia people use old fish and chip oil and apparently smells like the food tastes. Great setup you have, obviously refined over a period of time and trial & error. They say that Bio cleans out all the crap that grows in your tank and lines, and you will clog up filters the first time you use it, but maybe that's 100% Bio. It's not a bad thing, just something to be aware of. Did you have any experiences like that? Thanks again for posting - very interesting, cheers.
thanks Murray. yes Biodiesel has solvent properties so it will "melt" buildup from the sides of the fuel tank even in small doses like B20. I change the filters regularly and have never had one plug up. Once using Bio for a while your tank will be clean and you can reduce the filter change interval, but it's so cheap to change a filter once a year I just do it anyway.
Very interesting bit of ingenuity .
Thanks for all the work in sharing what you know
For starters, thank you for this video series. It has been very informative and much more streamline than other systems I have seen. I have 4 quick questions if you have the time. 1) After you air dry the diesel, do you need to drain the soap from the bottom of the tank? 2) Do you have a stand pipe in the final tank to prevent pulling from the bottom when filling up your vehicle? 3) Could you introduce the meth-oxide into the same tank you put the dirty oil into instead of using a separate pipe/container? 4) Do you do a titrate test before each batch?
Thanks again.
1) yes some soap and crap falls to the bottom and I drain it out.
2) yes there is a 6" stand pipe to take the cleaner fuel from up a bit...
3) You could do that but I think it would be more dangerous to dump that stuff into the oil tank vs. mixing it in a container and introducing though a hose like I do.
4) No I titrated some samples at the beginning and understand how much KOH is required for my oil. I only use relatively clean "dirty" oil so just a bit more than the "base" amount and it seems to work out. It's probably not a perfect reaction but runs well in my TDI.
Awesome man cool to see the process, thx for the series
Very informative. Many thanks for posting this series.
Thank you so much. This just answered my question in the second video. Thank you again.
Just my 2c - I run "processed" fuel in a common-rail diesel, my own crd - I want that fuel to run good. I also understand all the ideal "final parameters" of the processed fuel. I also understand industrial scale processing - that's my background,
If you really think this process through - what's the end in mind? - then it can be accomplished in a "1 Pass System" through 1 vessel with absolutely contaminated crap going in one end & thoroughly cleaned, usable product coming out the other. - with the absolute minimum expenditure. Caveat is "the absolute minimum" expenditure will make most people go "No way!" and forget about it because its quite a bit of cash outlayed - if you take the short view. If you take the long view, its cheap as chips per liter of output product - the up-front costs put most people off. Per liter of usable fuel, it's a no brainer - initially it seems high because suddenly you're dealing with volume. You chuck 20 quid of pump-fuel in your tank - that's c.a 10l. You want to process 200L? That costs.
. 1000l is more still - but the cost per liter is very different. Long view.
Everyone told me no way could a CRD run on processed WMO - no chance.. You'd need to be running an old-school diesel. Well... CRD's run just fine if you process it properly. There's a viscosity to hit. Hit that, it's gravy.
Waste motor oil? excellent. A different topic from biodiesel.
Great series. Thank you! I learned several things I'm going to use on my plant. I really rather like the air drying. Couple of questions:
1) That looks like 1 inch (25mm?) PVC. Is that correct?
2) How far does your PVC tee extend in the bottom of the final barrel to allow you to have 30 - 50 holes drilled in it? and
3) Do you have a link (or other contact info) to your source for the hot tub air pump?
1) I think so. Whatever fits it doesn’t really matter it’s just air.
2) maybe 12-15” out in 4 directions. It’s a 4-way splitter. Just drill a bunch of holes.
3) no. Google it. It was a long time ago. Any cheapo hot tub pump is fine.
Finally, do this at your own risk!
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Another correction, soaps are caused by free fatty acids in the oil stock - avoiding them by using less catalyst (so leaving the acids in solution) is not good practice.
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On average how long does it take, from start to finish, for the whole process? Also, would you be willing to share a diagram or blueprints to your setup? Asking from uk, as couldn't get my head around the valve/pump system after a few beers lol. Very good series overall though!
thanks. I've been asked about a diagram but I don't think so. The videos should spur enough ideas to make your own system. it is part art part science.
about 48 hours start to finish. minimum. longer is better for more settling.
@@gregs_garage you should definitely do a diagram just for content thank you for all you’ve done brother!
A solar panel could run the airpump during the day get an off-grid solution and a used oil heater to heat your tank - be prepared.
You probably do want to do a better job of fume extraction... liver transplants are a pain in the ass... very good series of videos, thank you for taking the time to show and tell.
Awesome setup you made! Only thing that worries me is when you are drying the fuel. You basically you make a methanol air mixture.... Not only could it explode but methanol vapours are very toxic, why don't you put a exhaust fan above the tank when you are doing this. It really worries me. Greetings!!
good points. It's directly by an open overhead garage door and I stay away from the machine during that part of the process.
@@gregs_garage still I would put a forced suction on it, now it's just dispersing everywhere, and if there is no wind it will just hang there or worse, if the wind is so that it sucks the air in your house by negative pressure.... Read the msds of methanol, it's way creepier than ethanol. Greetings, and thanks for the video!
Dear Lord, you are ready for WSHTF. Do you stock up on methyl alcohol by the barrel? How would you source it if methanol is in shortage. Can you make your own methanol?. I feel giddy just watching your video. There is an Asian guy on YT who makes biodiesel manually, tin can, thermometer, stick, gas stove, hand mixing and 3 or water washing. He says he doesn't care to spend a lot of money on equipment but his diesel is good for the farm tractor and his hauling truck. Thanks man. Subbed and liked.
Thanks. I buy methanol by the barrel. One barrel is enough to make about 1000 litres of biodiesel. It is the only economic way to buy it. Buying at Home Depot by the gallon is very expensive.
I think methanol can be made but I don’t know how. It’s cheap and available so I have not looked into it.
Stay tuned for more videos.
@@gregs_garage thanks for replying. I have an 18 year old Mitsubishi diesel SUV that looks and drives like it was bought last year. I refuse to sell it. I am hoping that it would run smoothly on biodiesel. That's why I was giddy to find your video. I thought it would be like rocket science to make clean biodiesel, but as you've shown, it is quite simple. Methanol I heard is not that hard to brew. Maybe it can be your next project. Thanks Sir.
Thanks for the very informative video I just have a quick Question. For the last step instead of using hot air, what if I used an emersion heater and heated the raw biodiesel to around 170 degrees farenheight, would that not get rid of the excess methenol and clean it?
I’m not a fan of boiling methanol.
@@gregs_garage makes sense. Thank you
You should make a video of how much you save making your own diesel monthly or yearly
Awesome series! How do you test the finished product?
Google 3/27 methanol test. Quick and dirty method. Or you could send a sample to a lab. My lagging test is 13 years of using it without issue.
@@gregs_garage diesels are pretty forgiving.. if you can run used cooking oil in it... I'm sure any form of refined and washed biodiesel is good to use.
@@youareallalone that's a reasonable comment, yes. They will handle quite a bit, especially if mixed with normal diesel.
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That's true of older systems, but modern systems are far less forgiving. Anything made in the last 15 years or so is going to be a lot more sensitive to bad fuel.
very intersting series and well detailed
over all how much do you spend on consumables (oil, methanol and potassium hydroxyde) to produce 100 Liters of fuel
and electrecity consumption too?
did you ever try to use mineral oils ? i've seen some guys just put old engine and transmission oils into their old diesels 😆
I would say…
Oil free if you have a source
Methanol $30-40
KOH $5
Electricity $1-2
Probably works out to 40-50 cents per litre.
I don’t like the idea of old oils because of the contaminants - not sure of their effect on things like pump and injectors.
Maybe clean ATF or new motor oil is fine in small doses.
Do you distil the waste glycerin to recover methanol?
Which catalyst did you use for purification of fuel oil?
KOH
How's the injector and other components holding up? Anything that would be abnormal maintenance for running bio diesel. Your process and setup seem effective and efficient.
All fine. Biodiesel has solvent properties so it keeps things very clean.
Just getting interested in this Greg, do you really think air washing is better than water washing? Other than the dirty water disposal, does it leave the fuel cleaner?
I think water washing leaves fuel cleaner. It’s just so much more labor intensive unless you have somewhere to drain the oily chemical water to.
@@gregs_garage water washing does look intensive.
You probably need to add lubricant to the Biodiesel for the injector pump, I use ATF
Biodiesel has good lubricant properties. ATF doesn’t hurt though I dump that in all the time
Watched all 3....very good...keep this kind of videos coming mate...do you using the biodiesel currently up to now...
Any change of thoughts???
no still using it. same process for 15 years.
Just a suggestion use a cone bottom tank using a hot water tank heating rod let the junk settle to bottom drain like 80% of junk then filter to 1micron is what I do and so easy and fast
cone tanks are hard to find. no washing?
@@gregs_garage I can get the site I got mine more cheeper then anyone else and I looked for months and no wash. Heat it up to 110 fahrenheit let us sit for a good time I go a year but I do hundreds of galls and filter with a water drain and a 3 stage filter 20 10 5 then a 1micron filter
@@dakotak8437 so you're using filtered Waste Veg oil (WVO) ? That's not biodiesel.
@@gregs_garage how isn't it I use mostly waste oil gear oil tranny fluid hydrologic fluid thats very bio-diesel. I run it in my Cummins injectors are not cheep injector are very fine and and sensitive iv increased my mpg. been doing it for over 10 years.and in your video you also have a filter on it.and I also make gasoline out of it.and you also use chemicals I don't so also save more money you don't need chemicals to make fuel out of wvo
@@dakotak8437 you seem like a BOT. I'm saying you can burn all kinds of oil in a diesel motor but its not biodiesel.
Greg do you do a final ph test to see if all of the soap is out after the drying?
nope I just burn it. soap and all. I've never had an issue in 15 years. VW TDI does not seem to fussy. your experience may vary.
If a guy was going to water wash the biodiesel, roughly how much water would he needed for a 40gal batch?
Also where abouts in Ontario are you? I’m in Manitoba and wondering if I can run in winter months.
Thanks again, wish you had more videos on your channel.
I think you need to run maybe 10 gals water thru but it’s been a long time. I’m in Alberta don’t confuse with those eastern weirdos. You can run small blends maybe 20% in winter. Depends on temperature. Also kerosene blending will help when cold. More videos to come what do you want to see? I can make anything
@@gregs_garage sorry, didn’t mean to mix up where you are. For what it’s worth I’m happy to hear that your an Albertan. Do you think that a centrifuge would help in anyway for the later stages of processing/washing or best left for initial filtering?
More biodiesel videos would be cool but you did a fantastic job of making your series. Looks like you have your hand in some other interesting things. Do you do much in terms of house / energy related alternative methods?
@@AndrewMarsch initial filtering is not required. Maybe if you were running straight veg oil or motor oil you would use a centrifuge. I only filter the incoming veg oil using a coarse screen. Any particles fall out in the glycerin during processing. The light biodiesel is on top and very clean. Not sure about centrifuge at the end. May be a good way but I just dry wash then run it thru a 10-micron farm filter and it runs good in the VW TDI.
Solar panels are next. With the subsidies and better modern panels it finally makes economic sense (I think). Here you can get the meter changed and run it backwards to sell power back to the grid for about 0.12 per Kwh
Hi Greg, thanks for the series. I was just wondering about keeping some of the methanol in the fuel, wouldn't that make a higher quality fuel? Thanks.
I don’t think so. Soap stays stuck to the biodiesel until the Methanol is gone. Then the soap falls out with gravity. You want biodiesel to be slow burning not explosive
@@gregs_garage do you get better fuel mileage with bio
@@ryanthiessen4562 no. In theory a bit less due to lower heat value but I've never noticed a difference.
@@gregs_garage I've heard guys say they get more power
@@ryanthiessen4562 I don't know - maybe pour some methanol or gasoline in there after it's all clean. Seems like Playing with fire. Better to tune your unit to burn more fuel and air without the magic sauce.
great job Greg I love the video! how can I get the plan for making a lab like this? can I contact you? thanks!
Thanks. There is no plan. I looked at different plans and adjusted to what worked for me.
I kept my Jetta TDI even after the whole diesel-gate scandal. You still have yours? Cool setup and video by the way, thanks for taking the time. If I may ask, how much was all these tanks and gear?
I am driving this TDI today. dieselgate doesnt affect anything. most of this is used and cheap except the pipe and valves. Maybe $2-300
Hi,nice job!
is it PD TDI,or engine with injection pump?
@@maximuspet injection pump. Bosch VE. 2003 last year before PD
5:16 If you have access to cheap to free electricity or firewood, you could distill methanol out, then you should get pure water, or least pure enough to maybe dump to drain (dont quote me on that) and finally you have contaminant left that can be given to waste disposal company, but at that point it should be so little it wont cost barely anything, least what you have left from that stage.
Also that is lots of air. How that air is purified so there wont be further contaminants ending up into fuel? Hot tubs generally dont require 10 microns filtering, so i doubt its own filter is enough. I would consider adding large HEPA filter intake of the airpump. Issue with the contaminants is that fuel filters get much faster.
One thing to consider is air humidity when pumping air in, it might condense into fuel and then you have water contamination, so there might be thing to consider based on your location and climate.
Furthermore hows the cost of this process comparing to petroleum diesel before taxes prices, or "burn oil" not sure if this is thing in abroad, but here its less taxed version of diesel for non road use?
Ou and whats the cold tolerance of this fuel and how to make it "winter bio diesel"?
wow what a lot of questions. I will attempt to answer.... later
Does your form of dry washing leave the PH relatively high from the left over catalyst?
I don’t know. Always runs great but I should get it tested
sorry it wasnt clear for me, its enough to dry wash it or you have to wet wash it before dry washing
Would a centrifugal work better for cleaning out any remaining contaminants after dry washing ?
a centrifuge? probably a fun thing to use. But expensive and not really necessary at this scale.
Is it possible to use high quality e85 ethanol instead of methanol? Also would reheating the biodiesel after draining off the byproduct remove the soaps, methanol and other contaminates to the bio diesel?
e85 is 15% gasoline. I doubt you want to mix gas into the process. Use 100% methanol. or ethanol but good luck finding 100% ethanol.
reheating the final product does nothing. you need to wash it with water or air or other media.
Very good videos,I'm just still uncertain of how many methanol and potassium hydroxide to use per liter of oil
Do your research. Roughly 20% methanol and 1.1 kg KOH per batch. But you gotta look into it
@@gregs_garage
Thanks Greg,thats a start
i am trying to make my first biodiesel and all is fine until i water wash at 130deg F and then it all goes a creamy colour and stays that way, can anybody advise on this very annoying problem. i will be setting up air drying the same as greg has done.
May be incomplete conversion, or maybe too much catalyst so there are chemicals and methanol in the fuel that is mixing with the water. I had trouble with water washing also.
Do you or, how do you keep track of how much fuel you're putting into the vehicle so you can keep track of the cost and of the fuel consumption of the vehicle?
record the volume of fuel put in the tank and record the odometer readings. What else is there to do?
Have noticed or had any problems with the DPF/SRC systems?
These cars don’t have that.
Can you show the "oily towel" that captures the remains when drywashing?
the towel gets oily to the touch from vaporized oil.
@@gregs_garage ok
Awsome. Might be forced to use biodiesel since the prices are so high now
yes it gets more popular with high prices. I need to make more fuel
Now what happens if you introduce anti-gel or Cetane booster after the final wash?
I think it reduces gel and boost cetane. marginally
@@gregs_garage so doesn't affect the mixture. Gotcha
Anyone doing this in the Midwest area? I'm looking to learn how to make it
Is it fine to use used cooking oil oir used car oil instead of that unused oil? (1st process)
used cooking oil. not used car oil.
Did you mod the car at all for this or can you run b100 through it stock?
Stock
Do you think, your Method works at modern commonrail diesel also or i destroy my commonrail System?
Probably destroys it.
Instead of the air blower, you can also pump your oil back into the the heater and heat it above 148F to evaporate any methanol still present.
I want nothing to do with vaporizing methanol over a heat source.
Do you keep reusing the catalyst
Sir. I don't understand how to separate the methanolr inside? Just by blowing the hot air into the tank? Tq sir. God bless
in the dry wash the air blowing through the biodiesel evaporates the methanol.
@@gregs_garage thank you sir... Cause in my experience for separate metanol and koh I give hot water and mix it.. Its not effective.. Thank you. I will try. Nice experience sir. God bless
I do not recommend you do any of this. This is a demonstration video only.
But what does the methanol cost? Cheaper than diesel? Not in Australia.
you don't use much of it. Maybe 1 litre to convert 5 litres of BIO
Could you share how much milles have you made on this car?!
What about consumption?!
Thank you in advance!
I have the car has 230,000+ kms on it. Ive hat it for 30,000 miles. it runs great.
consumption? about 5L per 100km or 45 miles per gallon roughly
@@gregs_garage can you share the proportion of chemicals?!
I have 100l used cooking oil?!
@@ivanparakosov1202 for my oil approx 20% methanol and 1.1 kg of koh. But you really need to do more research and understand why the proportions are what they are and what quality of oil you have.
I do not recommend making Biodiesel. This is a DEMO video only.
@@gregs_garage Have you ever had issue for fuel filter?!
Falling apart or stucking!?
@@ivanparakosov1202 no, but they get clogged while the biodiesel cleans your fuel tank. Bio is a solvent. So change the filter more frequently for the first year or two.
Did you have to modify your tdi car and what year is that car?
no mods. 2003. Stock ALH
How long have you been driving that car with bio?
5 years
Where did you get the OIL from to do the conversion ❓❓
restaurants (sometimes) and people who cook turkeys, wings, etc know that they can drop oil off with me. I just gradually gather oil until I can do a 100 litre batch.
@@gregs_garage Thanks for the reply. Love your channel
Hi
WHY would a airblower separate/clean the biodiesel?
First time I have ever seen this on any youtubevideo.
If you know were you got this idea from so write it here if you want 🙂
my understanding is it evaporates all trace alcohol (methanol) which causes contaminates to fall out of the oil.
Could this be done all in one container
I suppose in theory yes. Practically though, having a filtering/gathering tank, a heating/reaction tank, and a cleaning/final tank is easier to execute.
What do you do with the glycerin?
make soap or dispose at household waste place.
how do you dispose of the glycerin?
local waste disposal site.
@@gregs_garage can the glycerin not be used for something? Ie the companies that collect waste oil to turn into biofuel, they must have a use to up cycle the glycerin as well?
@@DV-vb1yh I made soap with it once. 20 litre batch will last years. I've heard you can spray it on gravel roads to keep dust down.
Some States they will fine you for using Biofuel in your car, because you are not paying fuel tax.!!🤔
Cite one case
@@gregs_garage Its been on the news on fox 2 years ago. look it up.!!🤔
@@carlbrown5150 the "news". "fox". hilarious.
@@gregs_garage Hint contact the DOT your own bad self and find out asshat.!!😡
how much flakes did u use for the 100L
about 1100 grams
@@gregs_garage also where did you buy ur flakes
@@Deadpool-tx1re at a chemical supplier
That goes in gas car
i bet if you checkout skimmer for saltwater fishtanks, you'll be able to better adjust your system air cleaning
can i ask where you buy methanol & the bag Chemicals
Buy at a chemical dealer. You may need a business or licences depending on state rules.
Not sure on a skimmer. The air needs to be high volume for it to work.
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Glycerin is biodegradable, so just dump it.
yes there are many uses. Make soap. Keep dust down on gravel roads, etc.
washing is unnecessary
based on what?
@@gregs_garage my own experience 100 000 mi audi a4b5 19tdi AFN done on that
@@ThePablojoker interesting. Well dry washing the way I do it doesn't cost much - gets rid of some methanol and some crap does fall out the bottom so I feel better about it.
@@gregs_garage They measure emissions many times and have always been surprised. New cars have not said so.. fall out the bottom ?
@@ThePablojoker after dry washing some glycerin and soap falls to the bottom of the biodiesel and is drained off.
What??? Why are you doing that? You waste up your time and you make business with very dangerous chemicals! I have long time ago the same WV car like you are. I just clean WVO very clean and mix with petrol 15 % and have never ever any problem with that. In the winter time mix 50% wvo - 30% diesel - 20% petrol and it’s work for me perfect. Only you need to change fuel filter every 6000 miles, and that it’s all.
WVO and gasoline. no thanks
@@gregs_garage Maybe you thinking that methanol it’s better solution for you? I really wish you good luck with that poison. 👍
@@alexa795 methanol is not in the final product. it's used in the chemical reaction. go burn some oil
@@gregs_garage Good luck with poison. Try not to breath or drink something of that stuff 👍☺️
I think you both are correct. Its pretty common practice to use WVO + a thinner (gasoline being the most common). All the thinner is doing is making it less hard on your pumps. Many other thinners you could use as well and other “recipes”. Generally you still need to filter this very very well.
Nothing wrong with making actual biodiesel either, and that is certainly going to be easier on your engine and not tear up your filters and gum up your injectors.
Not sure you can argue that working with gasoline is less dangerous than methanol? Both have similar levels of toxicity, and methanol is less flammable. One is from petroleum, one is from natural gas.
sorry it wasnt clear for me, its enough to dry wash it or you have to wet wash it before dry washing
I only dry wash it. No wet washing. But I could be wrong. It runs fine in the TDI
@@gregs_garage is it a pd tdi or cr tdi?
@@ThomasSz1994 neither. bosch VE rotary pump.