Nairobi is just overrated. Poor leadership and corruption will destroy the country. Even some areas in Kajiado, Ngong, and some rural areas in Kiambu, western, nyanza look way better than these so called posh estates.
so true i was just there for 2 weeks im telling you nairobi ni bure. I'm planning to go permanently soon.Tena public transport has improved so much.More space fresh air more opportunities.
@@7yqgevdj6 Actually Kiambu County is also so disorganized. Poor sewage drainage, no proper inroads, and shortage of essential amenities such as water. I was referring to a few estates I have visited in Limuru.
Nairobi iko sawa bana sijui mnamblein ya nini 😂 besides this is how growth is spread. There will be another kilimani and kileleshwa in the future to come
I am an old guy who was an avid reader of "James Hedley Chase," way back in the 1960s. In one of the novels, a fellow was complaining as follows:- "Look at these people, they are oblivious of good value of things; Good Wine Good Food and Good Social Classes. They are blind to these things". We have reached that point today. Everybody from the President to the the lowest Hustler is building flats, selling Chicken and eggs, stealing farm produce from one another and generally mingling as Hustlers, people oblivious of Class and good things of life. That is the reason we no longer have Low Density Areas in our cities. Everywhere is a Slum these days.
Corruption is destroying Nairobi,I'm sure city planners,building plans approvers at city hall and even the governor is compromised otherwise this would not be allowed to continue.
There are two kinds of people you cannot convince that living and working in Nairobi is not worth it. 1. Someone who has lived in Nairobi for 20+ years or their entire life. 2. Someone who has never lived in Nairobi.
😂😂 sipendi hii ujinga, Yani sai Niko job nawork overtime ndio nitoke paipu niende kuishi Lavington alafu mnaniambia ivi. I'd rather just go back to kamulu.
Our shortsightedness here. Greed and corruption. Kenya is beyond Nairobi and the known cities. If we supported devolution fully, we would be building 47 plus cities all over the Country.
....ehh....and who told you the concrete slums are not already in the counties..??... ..are unfordable houses not junk accomodation...??... ...or are the poor house-junkies bcoz they are poor...??... ............................... .....wacha maneno..... ...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!..... ...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!. ...learn to join the dots....
I grew up in Nakuru and in the 1960s and 70s. In those days, there were only Government Estates, Nakuru Municipal Council and Kenya Railway Houses. There were ample spaces for Children to play and we used to have inter-estate "Football Competitions" using a ball made of scrap paper. There was no overcrowding then because people lived in the rural areas. Now, everyone has migrated to town, and the small towns in the rural areas are dying because of lack of population while the Major towns are deteriorating because of increase in population. Do you know that Ruiru is the THIRD most populous Town in Kenya. All the farms are gone and if Uhuru subdivides his land and sells plots, Ruiru would be the 2nd most populous tow after Nairobi in 10 years.
Bomoa that is the only language corrupt business ppl understand. Pass an act of parliament disallowing architectures from planning or building syructures in these areas.
Simple solution: rename those areas; kileleshwa = mukuru kwa njenga, kilimani = mabondeni, lavington = mukuru kwa reuben......kwisha.....developers watastop kupigania lands huko na kuovercharge rent😂😂😂
Children are now developing Rickets. No sunlight to expose them to. No lifts to go down 20 floors. Carrying the luggage up the backache you develop. It's also not healthy for the heart. Power supply off for a while. Manually cleaning the staircases. It's tight and we know. Teach the residents how to live & what to do.
@@AAA-sx5ejI have seen your comments and I think you don't seem to get the point .The issue is poor planning ,we don't have to develop land just for the sake of developing .systems should be able to continue working well .No one is against development,the issue is why live in a posh apartment with poor lighting and no water ?
Some of those Skyscrapers are without clean water ..,boreholes are dug next to the sewer system coz everybody wants to build a 40 storey next to yours so all those mega boreholes they are digging are compromised … Nairobi is overrated build your mansion outside the city and leave happy and healthy .. people want to retire in a peaceful place so do some villagers feel when the granny home is sandwiched between a 30 storey apartment?
Nairobi at least a radius of 10km from CBD smells like sewage and faecal matter. Unfortunately, Nairobi CBD has become an open air market ndunyu and a packing lot
In the realm of urban development, Kenyans continuously evolve, reshaping their housing and infrastructure over time. What was once considered posh in areas like Buruburu in the 80s changed, what was once considered posh like Kilimani and kileleshwa will change, paving the way for new neighborhoods with improved amenities. It's not rocket science to understand how our communities adapt and transform, creating new standards for modern living.
@@janejustin1788true no proper planning in most of them.... Infact kuishi izo areas nowadays is a mess stima na ukosefu wa maji, most of those areas maji hukua distributed na lorry 🚛 za clean water 😳
Exactly that was my thoughts, there's some Kenyans who feel so damn entitled that their luxurious neighborhoods are "untouchable", they want to breath their own air, they're not planted there, let them vacate, sell those apartments and go to more spacious place
....ehh....wacha maneno..... ..kama mtu alikua anatumia ngamia...na bado alikua sawa...leo huyo mtu amekula hio ngamia...na ako na magari lakini hatosheki kuiba na kuuza vitu bandia -shida ni ya nani..??.....ni maendeleo...ama ni uzembe-leo kuto-tii sheria...??... ...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!..... ...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!. ...learn to join the dots....
@@kunglao3381Warios are not the problem. The root cause of the problem are the corrupt nywele ngumu Africans occupying big offices within Nairobi County government offices and just waiting for bribes to approve anything presented to them as long as the bribes come along
I bought an apartment in kilimani about 12 years ago...let me tell you...the adjacent plot ejected a very tall building with very many units, ata sahii i cannot rest in my balcony coz there is no privacy. You can even smell and guess the foods cooked by the neighbors in the adjacent apartment. It is that bad!! Jana aliacha ugali ikaungua😂😂
....ehh....wacha maneno..... ...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!..... ...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!. .....madoadoa aina zote ufanyika baada ya wizi wa kura.... ...learn to join the dots....
If you concentrate services like sanitation & security in a small place you will attract "investors" and "residents " . Spread quality county services evenly across Nairobi and you will spread the settlements and avoid congestion. Its simple economics.
Its deliberate, so that a few rich people keep the value of property they have bought in those few places areas high... if water , sanitation, roads , security and some serious public planning was done all over Nairobi and environs, we would be having Lavington like estates all over for ordinary people to live in dignity. Lakini wapi..Fisi wanachunga mbuzi
@@muriminyaga That's highly doubtful because that is not how wealth grows. Wealth grows faster when you have wealthy people around you. Just like a candle does not lose its brilliance by lighting another candle. Poverty dies not benefit anyone.
In Kenya our love of money will put our country into jeopardy so ihope those who are mandated in house sector both in national and county level to act with intergrity.
@@steveodhiambo2739Very well stated. The African problem is a mindset problem. There aren't many Africans who have lived in an urban setting through more than 2 generations. Urban planning is a strange concept to most Africans. The village is still strongly residing in the mind if an African urbanite. School education does not change any of that because it is deeply engraved in the mind of an African not to have long range urban planning. It is an African culture not to plan and/or not to respect plans.
The same is happening in South C and Donholm which were meant for bungalows only. The best solution is to build outside Nairobi like in Konza where there's plenty of space for new skyscrapers. Nairobians are getting exactly what they voted for!
But those who move there will still go with the African mentality of sluminizing his environment and it will soon start degrading into another Buru Buru and eventually into a Pipeline estate. The problem is not in the lactation but the African mindset. But the mindset challenge to Africans can be understood because there aren't many Africans who gave lived through more than 2 generations in an urban setting. Africans moved to urban centres with a village mentality. That's where the problem lies.
The problem is we have uneducated, incompetent, corrupt politicians in planning and social spaces who have messed up our city. Sakaja has made it worse
The problem of a country having one big city and rest of the country is left for paupers. We need to economically decentralize the country so that there is no need to further congest Nairobi, since most people think that it is the only place where one can successfully hustle. I admire how the major South African cities are at par with each other.
Construction is not a menace.. Nairobi is just rapidly growing and those people complaining should also evolve and move away. City is not for living, it's only for business and work
@@davidmabalu4635.ehh...toothless and illegit..... ...if he had genuine votes...he could have banned the matatus as he said... but...teams uganda degree is only as good as the ""statehouse"" printer which made it.....without vision as miguna had...but miguna pia amemezwa na wezi wa kura - hajijui alipo....!!!..... .
I really wonder what the point of building so many houses is. Who's going to live there? Their target audience certainly wouldn't want to live in such overcrowded apartments.
@@Edwachable While it is true that our population is growing, I'm pretty sure less than half (if not less than a quarter) of our population can actually afford to live in those neighborhoods. And someone with the means to live there has options, there's no way they'll take such houses. Even right now there are still many unoccupied apartments in the area, why are they building more??
@@itsTheTruthTellerThere is nothing to be gained by being impervious to experiences from elsewhere. The chaos and disorder that has been descending on Nairobi is a recipe for disaster. If others have a better solution, then we should be humble enough to take a look at it, though the main cause of these problems in Nairobi is just corruption. They know what ought to be done but they act dumb because they have been compromised.
@@georgeodhiambo598 when you get power or when someone who will do what you want gets power then they can implement everything you want and how you want it but unfortunately we don't have those people in power now so you can either take what we have now and be patient for your turn or you can rebel now and take back the government and do what you want... Those are the only choices we have.
Country living is the best alternative! You can't expect the "posh" areas to continue accommodating only a few, where will the rest of us stay? Reality will quickly settle in-it's only a matter of time before the Nairobi skyline is spangled with highrises.
@@justinekenyansaehh....kama uko hapa kenya...go to any town cente...utapata some gorofa buildings that are not worth living in...so....the problem already exists even in mashambani....only that the numbers sio mingi as in nairobi...some 10 years from now...u will find ,"baby pipelines""..all over.....
Govt with displaced priority. The wouldn't happen if we already had better transport system; Electric Railway. Such structures would be cropping up in Mahiu Mau.
@itsTheTruthTeller No, this is not proper - this is unplanned development. Properly-planned development of a city would provide infrastructure such as transport, and that would inspire building even further away from the city. There are no resources such as roads, sewerage, water, among other resources required to serve this high population.
@@kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 so tf what if it's not proper?! It's fu**king growth and better this than remaining stagnant and not growing at all. There's transport and it's affordable. There's small towns and neighborhoods surrounding Nairobi proving that people are building further away from the city. Roads are there the previous government even built an expressway to prove that we have a good road network. Our sewer system is old and needs overhauling and we have water but the only thing stopping it from reaching ALL taps is because of cartels. The point I'm trying to make is we're not perfect and getting to that utopian cosmopolitan metropolis that you want takes time but at least we're working at it...
....ehh....wacha maneno..... ...can you have right priorities based on wrong decisions/actions....??.. ...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!..... ...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!. ...learn to join the dots....
I wish we could focus on food security,health,industries etc...these storey buildings are scary,we cannot feed on stones...maximize pipo means of earning and safeguard that...though we cant ignore the fact that those buildings are meant foŕ foreigners....kenya is the next south africa
Yes, but you need to drive the change and take positive change while rejecting negative change. Stop acting passively in the face of change. You have a role to play in determining the direction of change!
The solution is simple. People should move back to the counties. With technology, remote working is possible. Vacate Nairobi in droves until the city leaders start listening and do the right thing. waachie city yao. Until then, continue suffering the congestion, inconvenience and dirt.
@dennisngugi1102 stop bringing up irrational arguments that don't add up, We should be dealing with economic aspects , the population is increasing and resources are limited.
@frankodoshe They deserve better indeed, but with liberalized democratic and far-right political democrats will never allow it. touch Land in Kibera today as previous regimes tried last one being the Charity Ngilu initiative which failed terribly, We can have cosmetics projects like KENSUP slum upgrading which happened some years back but slums are still there
actually its a bad financial decision to but apartment in those areas, What if in future the government decides all buildings above zoning limit will be demolished and no compensation.
Our city is expanding and growing rapidly. We have to accept that, am sure there were times people had compounds in the city but growth made them relocate.
It is not growth that made them relocate. It is chaotic growth and urban rot that made them relocate. Nairobi has been growing from early 1900's. Stop hiding behind growth to cover up the massive corrupt practices at City Hall leading to urban rot.
...ehh...why should they not buy....or grab....??.... ...when elections are stolen...then thugs and terrorists get the room to play around with everything... ...je..ni lini mtashikashisha hizii dots....ama mkiskia madoadoa mnaogopa mkijijua mlivyokosea watu.... ...dont blame them...blame youself for the mess....
@@edwinmaywa...ehh..but who are buying in particular areas... ..and those buying....all are business ppl...!!... ...is that normal to you...??... ...dots...join them....madoadoa.....
Has anyone stopped you or anyone else from living in any part of the country? Sound physical planning and zoning does not create economic classes. It just takes cognizance of their presence in a society and plans for them. That's why you get a whole range of different types of goods and services to match different pockets. That's why we have benzes, range rovers, tuk tuks and bicycles to match different.
Every person has the right to access sunlight and fresh air as a part of access to health. Stop lowering the bar just because your elected officials are taking bribes and approving buildings that they know are wrong. There are building bye-laws and codes that ought to be strictly adhered to.
@@georgeodhiambo598 Refugees who have destroyed their countries are taking advantage of our progress but don't care what happens to our country. They can move elsewhere. They are only interested in what is working in the short term.
Since the retire of kibaki we've been electing thieves and goons who not only can steal anything near them they can also kill very fast, kibaki removed us from the hole of death of moi and now were 89% going back to the hole again without shame .
Opportunities are still very much concentrated here. I for example work in an industry where the only players are based in Nairobi, so navumilia kuishi jijini. Maybe one day devolution will really do its thing, but by then I'll probably be retired 😅
Y'all should also get to stall / shop rentals, Hii maneno ya kulipishwa goodwill na landlord ni corruption tupu💔sio tena business permit cert. ,like this is the reason why self employment is quite a headache in 254.Soo saddening that vijana wanajaribu kujijenga but the greedy cartels can't seem to satisfy their interests.Goodwill works if unanunua duka ya mtu...lakini sasa stall empty? I wandaa💀
What do you mean when you state that goodwill is corruption? You can always take a walk to the next landlord if you are not comfortable with paying goodwill. Goodwill is not a purchase price. It is the value built into the property due to its location, previous tenant and loyalty.
If you do not like where you rent or have an apartment in Nairobi's metropolitan urban zone, you're not planted there, you can move to a more spacious house, Nairobi ni yetu zote! there's still entitled families whose "their" luxurious neighborhoods are untouchable! make some moves, you're not planted there!
That's not an excuse for poor planning. How can people build apartments right next to a fuel station? That is a serious disaster waiting to happen. Third World mentalities of just building where we feel like must be avoided, neighbourhoods have to be zoned for obvious reasons, like controlling traffic congestion, protecting wildlife, and ensuring that safety regulations are met.
@@zack7438 Third world mentalities again? do you think Kenyans are not keen and aware why this has been a n issue within Kileleshwa, Kilimani and Kitsuru areas where some first families to establish their private houses there feel entitled not to let others live among them! If you don't remember the same issues within Westlands and Parklands zoning suburbs where the Indians would not let Africans live among them back in 1980/90's, take that mentality back to class! Some of you won't complain how Kibera and Mukuru is congested, you care less about those poor ones but you can complain a freaking petrol station build next to an apartment! again make a move to Karen or Turkana, you're not planted there!
When you have lived your entire life in squalor, unfortunate to have not seen what a well planned living is, you get to have this reasoning. Good planning can cater for all cadres of society. There is nothing wrong with someone who has earned a honest coin and can pay for space and cool ambience having it. Wivu ya nini?
@@fly69jamual62 You assume I live in Nairobi, I don't and do not want to. It is dirty, unsafe, ill- planned and congested. While your arguments about Kibera and Mukuru are valid, it does not justify the continued lack of planning that is happening in Nairobi. Neighbourhoods must be zoned, every country that has developed to First World standards has followed this basic concept. You cannot just put up a bunch of unregulated apartments in areas that were not designated to have high-rise apartments. Today it's Kileleshwa, tomorrow it will be the Nairobi National Park. Rules have to be established. It's too late to save Nairobi, but perhaps the solution going forward is to improve devolution so that people can live elsewhere.
@@duncan.odhiambo.77 Dude there is no wivu here, don't think you got a coin and earned it in a decent way! Nairobi is huge, it has over 5M population, if those 5M can have a space to live, you still can take your earned honest coin there and stop making noises! Stop that medieval thought, Nairobi no longer has 1M, we're taking over almost 6M....Come to America and see people living in the deep city square surrounded by tallest buildings over 50 floors all over the place....relax the population is not even high, 25yrs down the line you will go insane with your decent earned coins LOL
@@naturelle1097 basi kwanini unabonga na hauko hapa? 😂 You're not being affected?! Nyamaza and enjoy your life wherever you are my fellow Kenyan person 😂 🍻
@@naturelle1097 kwanini unarudi? Si ukae pahali uko 😂😂. Na ka kitu inakuuma enda ukule chakula na ucheki comedy 😂 probably ni hunger na anger ndio zinakufanya usikie uchungu over things that don't affect you in any way. Kenya ni poa kama haikubambi enjoy where you are bro... Wacha kujimada na stress za ufala 😂
This isn't shocking, it will only get worse with time. The Kenyan real estate market is extremely overrated and should be avoided completely. Kenya is doomed.
Nairobi was planned in 1948 as a colonial city .That is when zoning was introduced. Governor Sakajja is givingin to a cabal that has no good intentions for Kenya's growth
@@itsTheTruthTeller Growth can be managed and planned for. Why must everyone live in these areas anyway? This Ruto administration is incompetent and corrupt. City planning should be taken extremely seriously in big cities like Nairobi.
@@HellenofTroy897 that will come later when there's order, now is time to press forward with plans and yes... I am a very corrupt individual who's priority is profit 😂
We can't work on our existing infrastructure and think some miracles will happen, and we will end up like New York. 😒 have they seen the state of Kenyatta Avenue all the way to CBD Nkt! Sewage overflowing everywhere and tartared roads.
Oh my goodness, these neighbourhoods used to be so beautiful now they have gine to the dogs. This is pure greed that is destroying Nairobi. Mr. who are you reporting to, nobody in the county government cares probably because they are bribed.
Pipeline pro Max
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Nairobi is just overrated. Poor leadership and corruption will destroy the country. Even some areas in Kajiado, Ngong, and some rural areas in Kiambu, western, nyanza look way better than these so called posh estates.
so true i was just there for 2 weeks im telling you nairobi ni bure. I'm planning to go permanently soon.Tena public transport has improved so much.More space fresh air more opportunities.
@@7yqgevdj6 Actually Kiambu County is also so disorganized. Poor sewage drainage, no proper inroads, and shortage of essential amenities such as water. I was referring to a few estates I have visited in Limuru.
Overall, the Nyanza region has better planning compared to other areas.
Nairobi iko sawa bana sijui mnamblein ya nini 😂 besides this is how growth is spread. There will be another kilimani and kileleshwa in the future to come
Kisumu city Haina pesa😅😅@@thejackofalltrades100
These developers should be named and shamed! They've ruined the Kilimani/Lavington area 😢
Change is a must... all inner cities look like that all over the world. The rich usually move out. People in Kilimani should be in Karen by now.
Parklands also gone
Pipeline was just chilling
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Actually, pipeline can be improved if the landlords really wanted to! Why don't they want the value of their rental properties to go up?
@@Delmont100 It can`t it will become gentrified and instead of improving be stuck in time like Umoja when it was once the Pipeline.
If you want a posh life move to the country side, buy a good size chunk of land and build your castle there where no one will encroach on you.
Exactly
Kabisaa!
True..
Still does not negate city by-laws and zoning.
Utamaliziwa na wakora huko bana 😁😬🤣🤣
That house can only be a brothel but not a family house. In Kenya, no law works
I am an old guy who was an avid reader of "James Hedley Chase," way back in the 1960s. In one of the novels, a fellow was complaining as follows:- "Look at these people, they are oblivious of good value of things; Good Wine Good Food and Good Social Classes. They are blind to these things". We have reached that point today. Everybody from the President to the the lowest Hustler is building flats, selling Chicken and eggs, stealing farm produce from one another and generally mingling as Hustlers, people oblivious of Class and good things of life. That is the reason we no longer have Low Density Areas in our cities. Everywhere is a Slum these days.
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Corruption is destroying Nairobi,I'm sure city planners,building plans approvers at city hall and even the governor is compromised otherwise this would not be allowed to continue.
Nairobi is growing its not being destroyed, stop being pessimistic
Zoning laws for the area changed so you can't dictate to developers how to utilize their property if they are following the new laws
@@itsTheTruthTellergrowth does not have to be haphazard. Why can"t it be well planned
@@cb8496 better it grows haphazardly than not grow at all. We will fix it later
@@itsTheTruthTellerfix it later how?
There are two kinds of people you cannot convince that living and working in Nairobi is not worth it.
1. Someone who has lived in Nairobi for 20+ years or their entire life.
2. Someone who has never lived in Nairobi.
Exactly
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Very true.
Too true, especially that second one😅
I disagree.
I stayed at an airbnb in Kilimani. I could see and could have even talked to the Chinese woman cooking in her kitchen at the next building.
Did you notice that she was probably cooking Bosco?
And i recently drove on a Chinese built road, and?
@@consigliere254 didn't want to see the pot just in case..hehe
@@AAA-sx5ej and no one is talking about roads
@@AAA-sx5ejLearn to connect the dots😅
😂😂 sipendi hii ujinga, Yani sai Niko job nawork overtime ndio nitoke paipu niende kuishi Lavington alafu mnaniambia ivi. I'd rather just go back to kamulu.
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😅😅😅😅Kilio cha haki
Nunua keja greatwall
Watu warudi mashambani.
Heri sasa na huko kamulu aki
Our shortsightedness here. Greed and corruption. Kenya is beyond Nairobi and the known cities. If we supported devolution fully, we would be building 47 plus cities all over the Country.
....ehh....and who told you the concrete slums are not already in the counties..??...
..are unfordable houses not junk accomodation...??...
...or are the poor house-junkies bcoz they are poor...??...
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.....wacha maneno.....
...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!.....
...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!.
...learn to join the dots....
I agree with this cause issues like employment will not be an issue and Majority of Kenyans will be able to afford housing and basic commodities.
Are u anti development?
@@AAA-sx5ejNobody is anti development he is saying other areas of the country should be developed not just Nairobi.
I grew up in Nakuru and in the 1960s and 70s. In those days, there were only Government Estates, Nakuru Municipal Council and Kenya Railway Houses. There were ample spaces for Children to play and we used to have inter-estate "Football Competitions" using a ball made of scrap paper. There was no overcrowding then because people lived in the rural areas. Now, everyone has migrated to town, and the small towns in the rural areas are dying because of lack of population while the Major towns are deteriorating because of increase in population. Do you know that Ruiru is the THIRD most populous Town in Kenya. All the farms are gone and if Uhuru subdivides his land and sells plots, Ruiru would be the 2nd most populous tow after Nairobi in 10 years.
Come to South c and see we are always in the evening 😂😂😂
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I cry for south.c
😂😂😂😂 Wasomali walitakeover and it's baaaad!! wameanza kuingia hurlingham and chaka area. itakuwa same same.
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They were.. It's long ago. The city is growing, let create another lavington,kilimani etc to further areas outside Nairobi
That is precisely why this is happening. Kenyans are not fighters. We move when pushed instead of demanding whats ours.
.ehh....choo ikizibika....fix it....hauendi ku-kunia further down.....
Does that mean we create Umoja 1 in Lavington
Bomoa that is the only language corrupt business ppl understand.
Pass an act of parliament disallowing architectures from planning or building syructures in these areas.
Exactly!
Simple solution: rename those areas; kileleshwa = mukuru kwa njenga, kilimani = mabondeni, lavington = mukuru kwa reuben......kwisha.....developers watastop kupigania lands huko na kuovercharge rent😂😂😂
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😂😂😂 Hapo sawa
😂😂😂😂😂nice one👊👊👊
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Sakaja will go down as the worst Governor in Kenya
Sio kuliko kidero na sonko 😂
We tried to tell you guys but you didn't want to know.
These building we're given approvals over 5 years ago.
NO
It is Sonko and Kidero.
ONe was very incompetent while the other was a big time thief.
@@nativeson1559 Kenyans love villains 😂
Hold sonko accountable and arrest all the politicians who illegally benefited from these mess.
right
Dont forget Kidero too 😂
Children are now developing Rickets. No sunlight to expose them to. No lifts to go down 20 floors. Carrying the luggage up the backache you develop. It's also not healthy for the heart. Power supply off for a while. Manually cleaning the staircases. It's tight and we know. Teach the residents how to live & what to do.
I personally weep for Kileleshwa because that's where I grew up. The area is so crowded. It's no longer the leafy suburb
I weep for Lavington green. The ka nice shopping center now looks like a nice part in Kawangware
If u want leaves, go live in a forest😂😂
@@AAA-sx5ej if you want skyscrapers go live in Kenyatta conference center 😉
@@AAA-sx5ejI have seen your comments and I think you don't seem to get the point .The issue is poor planning ,we don't have to develop land just for the sake of developing .systems should be able to continue working well .No one is against development,the issue is why live in a posh apartment with poor lighting and no water ?
Some of those Skyscrapers are without clean water ..,boreholes are dug next to the sewer system coz everybody wants to build a 40 storey next to yours so all those mega boreholes they are digging are compromised
… Nairobi is overrated build your mansion outside the city and leave happy and healthy
.. people want to retire in a peaceful place so do some villagers feel when the granny home is sandwiched between a 30 storey apartment?
Nairobi at least a radius of 10km from CBD smells like sewage and faecal matter.
Unfortunately, Nairobi CBD has become an open air market ndunyu and a packing lot
Corruption is killing the beauty of our country.
In the realm of urban development, Kenyans continuously evolve, reshaping their housing and infrastructure over time. What was once considered posh in areas like Buruburu in the 80s changed, what was once considered posh like Kilimani and kileleshwa will change, paving the way for new neighborhoods with improved amenities. It's not rocket science to understand how our communities adapt and transform, creating new standards for modern living.
Oversight is urgently needed nevertheless.
except zinajengwa without proper planning,
@@janejustin1788true no proper planning in most of them.... Infact kuishi izo areas nowadays is a mess stima na ukosefu wa maji, most of those areas maji hukua distributed na lorry 🚛 za clean water 😳
Exactly, this is a good thing
Exactly that was my thoughts, there's some Kenyans who feel so damn entitled that their luxurious neighborhoods are "untouchable", they want to breath their own air, they're not planted there, let them vacate, sell those apartments and go to more spacious place
Parklands has been invaded now it is not the parklands we used to know parklands of yester years beautiful lawns trees fruit trees etc is no more
....ehh....wacha maneno.....
..kama mtu alikua anatumia ngamia...na bado alikua sawa...leo huyo mtu amekula hio ngamia...na ako na magari lakini hatosheki kuiba na kuuza vitu bandia -shida ni ya nani..??.....ni maendeleo...ama ni uzembe-leo kuto-tii sheria...??...
...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!.....
...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!.
...learn to join the dots....
Willing buyers Willing seller of land
Parklands is gone to wariyas with their black money from somalia they have taken over
@@kunglao3381Warios are not the problem. The root cause of the problem are the corrupt nywele ngumu Africans occupying big offices within Nairobi County government offices and just waiting for bribes to approve anything presented to them as long as the bribes come along
I bought an apartment in kilimani about 12 years ago...let me tell you...the adjacent plot ejected a very tall building with very many units, ata sahii i cannot rest in my balcony coz there is no privacy. You can even smell and guess the foods cooked by the neighbors in the adjacent apartment. It is that bad!! Jana aliacha ugali ikaungua😂😂
The current and one past governor is complicit in this mess.
Ruto is a real snake in the grass… but, this is the kind of corruption that thrives in Kenya, that’s why he was elected.
@@qrankmw. Get back on your medication
....ehh....wacha maneno.....
...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!.....
...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!.
.....madoadoa aina zote ufanyika baada ya wizi wa kura....
...learn to join the dots....
I was looking to move there or Westlands but I’m going to wait till this gets resolved, if ever.
What a nightmare?
Being Kenyan is an alpha sport, winning it is another issue😮
If you concentrate services like sanitation & security in a small place you will attract "investors" and "residents " . Spread quality county services evenly across Nairobi and you will spread the settlements and avoid congestion. Its simple economics.
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Its deliberate, so that a few rich people keep the value of property they have bought in those few places areas high... if water , sanitation, roads , security and some serious public planning was done all over Nairobi and environs, we would be having Lavington like estates all over for ordinary people to live in dignity. Lakini wapi..Fisi wanachunga mbuzi
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Agree
@@muriminyaga That's highly doubtful because that is not how wealth grows. Wealth grows faster when you have wealthy people around you. Just like a candle does not lose its brilliance by lighting another candle. Poverty dies not benefit anyone.
In Kenya our love of money will put our country into jeopardy so ihope those who are mandated in house sector both in national and county level to act with intergrity.
Are u poor?
@@AAA-sx5ej a person should not love money more than morals and integrity.
Because the city has no governor.
You nailed it bro
Overpopulated slum.
Willing buyers Willing seller of land
@@AAA-sx5ej I have seen your comments but kindly just visit your nearest mental health center
Come to donholm the same thing
I've got property there, donholm is very nice.
better donholm by far.....wasomali ndio wanataka kuleta tall buildings.police line tayari moja imesimama lo!
Move to ur village then
Also south c will become pipeline b
That's good. More people, more housing
Same to Nairobi west
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And do u leave in s.c ? Ama ni kelele ya chura uko nayo
"Raila still remains the best hope for Kenyans to realise their Full Potential"!!!.
He need nothing else but money
YOu have jokes.
You have good jokes.
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Hii Kenya just buy a farm far from cities, buy like 10 acres ushago!
Eventually they will come and build highrise apartments there to. Its all a matter of time.
@@steveodhiambo2739Very well stated. The African problem is a mindset problem. There aren't many Africans who have lived in an urban setting through more than 2 generations. Urban planning is a strange concept to most Africans. The village is still strongly residing in the mind if an African urbanite. School education does not change any of that because it is deeply engraved in the mind of an African not to have long range urban planning. It is an African culture not to plan and/or not to respect plans.
The same is happening in South C and Donholm which were meant for bungalows only. The best solution is to build outside Nairobi like in Konza where there's plenty of space for new skyscrapers. Nairobians are getting exactly what they voted for!
But those who move there will still go with the African mentality of sluminizing his environment and it will soon start degrading into another Buru Buru and eventually into a Pipeline estate. The problem is not in the lactation but the African mindset. But the mindset challenge to Africans can be understood because there aren't many Africans who gave lived through more than 2 generations in an urban setting. Africans moved to urban centres with a village mentality. That's where the problem lies.
The problem is we have uneducated, incompetent, corrupt politicians in planning and social spaces who have messed up our city. Sakaja has made it worse
The problem of a country having one big city and rest of the country is left for paupers. We need to economically decentralize the country so that there is no need to further congest Nairobi, since most people think that it is the only place where one can successfully hustle. I admire how the major South African cities are at par with each other.
Wacha watu wajenge, this will help the economy ❤❤
It’s now legal to build over 20 floors
There should be adherence to urban planning and developmeny
That challenge that needs to be addressed is none other than the mister himself... Rutooo
Hong Kong, Miami, New York have gone past this stage... Nairobi is not different
New York is sinking.
Sakaja the best governor let us build up thats development
Sakaja is the current boss of Nairobi he can use his powers to stop this construction menace
Hes clueless n toothless
Construction is not a menace.. Nairobi is just rapidly growing and those people complaining should also evolve and move away. City is not for living, it's only for business and work
He cannot!!! U can't stop growth of population and change in life... U can only formulate policies for everyone to fit in this nation
@@davidmabalu4635.ehh...toothless and illegit.....
...if he had genuine votes...he could have banned the matatus as he said...
but...teams uganda degree is only as good as the ""statehouse"" printer which made it.....without vision as miguna had...but miguna pia amemezwa na wezi wa kura - hajijui alipo....!!!.....
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He can't, considering that even his degree is fake. They'll take him down .
Integrity in Kenya is like a myth. people only complain when a situation does not favour them. This is the outcome of years of impunity.
The only thing that takes me to Nairobi is JKIA. I prefer living in the private community huko mashinani...😅
Most of us owners in lavington would love to build high rise buildings but some barons dont want development
I deal in Real Estate software for apartment management, can we talk?
the concept of buying air rights should be introduced in Kenya
Willing buyers Willing seller of land
It is not may be, it is pipeline already.
And ur point is what exactly?
I sometimes don't understand NCA,you find a building marked X by NCA but after two to 3 months the construction continues lol
When they put an X on your structure, they are basically telling you "Cheza kama wewe".
@@AbdooLie-w6f😂😂😂😂wueh!
I really wonder what the point of building so many houses is. Who's going to live there? Their target audience certainly wouldn't want to live in such overcrowded apartments.
Kenya's population is growing and that comes with demand for housing. It's time Kenya begins to work for all Kenyans and not just a privileged few.
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While it is true that our population is growing, I'm pretty sure less than half (if not less than a quarter) of our population can actually afford to live in those neighborhoods. And someone with the means to live there has options, there's no way they'll take such houses. Even right now there are still many unoccupied apartments in the area, why are they building more??
This congestion is what will eventually bring down property prices in those areas. Who wants to live in an expensive house that is always dark
City planners did not expect this.
@@BosleyLukongo What did they expect? What did they plan for? Who approves the designs?
Ooooh kumbe pipeline si watu wanaishi.... Kileleshwa is where people live??
Pipeline ni ng'ombe zinaishi. Nani hustay pipeline!?
Uliza nyanyako
@@josephwamae6348 amenishow ni ng'ombe za kienyeji. Thanks for the tip fam♥️
Glad to be of help
You can't honestly compare Nairobi with Hong Kong where planning and systems are quite.different.
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One word: Corruption. They need to take a look at city planning and the process of having an orderly city. Just go next door to Rwanda
Our city is good. Wacha Kigali wacheze ka wao na sisi tucheze ka sisi
U cant compare a village and a mega city
@@itsTheTruthTellerThere is nothing to be gained by being impervious to experiences from elsewhere. The chaos and disorder that has been descending on Nairobi is a recipe for disaster. If others have a better solution, then we should be humble enough to take a look at it, though the main cause of these problems in Nairobi is just corruption. They know what ought to be done but they act dumb because they have been compromised.
@@AAA-sx5ejWhy not? You can compare a clean and orderly village and contrast with a dirty, poorly planned, and chaotic megacity.
@@georgeodhiambo598 when you get power or when someone who will do what you want gets power then they can implement everything you want and how you want it but unfortunately we don't have those people in power now so you can either take what we have now and be patient for your turn or you can rebel now and take back the government and do what you want... Those are the only choices we have.
Change is indeed inevitable
Country living is the best alternative! You can't expect the "posh" areas to continue accommodating only a few, where will the rest of us stay? Reality will quickly settle in-it's only a matter of time before the Nairobi skyline is spangled with highrises.
The highrises in and of themselves are not the issue, the poor planning is.
..ehh...do you live in kenya...??..
...those concrete slums exist even mashambani...only they are not as many....
@@qrankmw. what is your argument ?🤔
@@justinekenyansaehh....kama uko hapa kenya...go to any town cente...utapata some gorofa buildings that are not worth living in...so....the problem already exists even in mashambani....only that the numbers sio mingi as in nairobi...some 10 years from now...u will find ,"baby pipelines""..all over.....
@@qrankmw. true, but that's not what I meant. Country living does not translate to 'gorofa buildings' in small towns, it's a different concept.
Govt with displaced priority. The wouldn't happen if we already had better transport system; Electric Railway. Such structures would be cropping up in Mahiu Mau.
Stop complaining, this is how any city grows
@itsTheTruthTeller No, this is not proper - this is unplanned development. Properly-planned development of a city would provide infrastructure such as transport, and that would inspire building even further away from the city. There are no resources such as roads, sewerage, water, among other resources required to serve this high population.
@@kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 @kandisphere8828 so tf what if it's not proper?! It's fu**king growth and better this than remaining stagnant and not growing at all. There's transport and it's affordable. There's small towns and neighborhoods surrounding Nairobi proving that people are building further away from the city. Roads are there the previous government even built an expressway to prove that we have a good road network. Our sewer system is old and needs overhauling and we have water but the only thing stopping it from reaching ALL taps is because of cartels. The point I'm trying to make is we're not perfect and getting to that utopian cosmopolitan metropolis that you want takes time but at least we're working at it...
....ehh....wacha maneno.....
...can you have right priorities based on wrong decisions/actions....??..
...stolen elections have consequences.....!!!.....
...madoadoa hazifanyiki bila sababu....zinasababishwa...!!.
...learn to join the dots....
@@itsTheTruthTellerthis is not how cities grow, that's a lie.
I wish we could focus on food security,health,industries etc...these storey buildings are scary,we cannot feed on stones...maximize pipo means of earning and safeguard that...though we cant ignore the fact that those buildings are meant foŕ foreigners....kenya is the next south africa
urbanisation is good news to people who understand economics, the future is just amazing
Change is invertible
Yes, but you need to drive the change and take positive change while rejecting negative change. Stop acting passively in the face of change. You have a role to play in determining the direction of change!
The solution is simple. People should move back to the counties. With technology, remote working is possible. Vacate Nairobi in droves until the city leaders start listening and do the right thing. waachie city yao. Until then, continue suffering the congestion, inconvenience and dirt.
This is ... not great. But what's also not great, is a whole reporter saying, "How it looks like." ... 🤦♀
This is just sweet talk. The city, county amd subcounty goverments must resolve to act justly and say no to bribes.
Let them look for another kileleshwa in ukambani area
1:18 now they can afford, don't gatekeep urbanisation, develop new poshes.
Stop hating, even those living in pipeline are human beings. Stop demeaning them.
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So we turn everywhere into pipeline, sewage kila mahali, hii ndio ujinga ya kunormalize poverty
Even those who live in Kibera are human beings but it doesn’t change the fact that they deserve better.
@dennisngugi1102 stop bringing up irrational arguments that don't add up, We should be dealing with economic aspects , the population is increasing and resources are limited.
@frankodoshe They deserve better indeed, but with liberalized democratic and far-right political democrats will never allow it. touch Land in Kibera today as previous regimes tried last one being the Charity Ngilu initiative which failed terribly, We can have cosmetics projects like KENSUP slum upgrading which happened some years back but slums are still there
I blame Sakaja...
Housing scheme is the next problem in waiting
All developments are approved .....for some pay! The chosen leaders!
actually its a bad financial decision to but apartment in those areas, What if in future the government decides all buildings above zoning limit will be demolished and no compensation.
That's not possible
Mbona mnaonea pipeline jamani😂😂😂
Our city is expanding and growing rapidly. We have to accept that, am sure there were times people had compounds in the city but growth made them relocate.
The developers and architects know this, and that's why they made such legislation.
It is not growth that made them relocate. It is chaotic growth and urban rot that made them relocate. Nairobi has been growing from early 1900's. Stop hiding behind growth to cover up the massive corrupt practices at City Hall leading to urban rot.
Even the so called victim in this video, his house is so close to the boundary, even he won't open his windows well.
Don't blame the developers.
Why are these people buying or renting then complaining?
Utter madness.
Some bought 12 or so years ago then new adjacent developments change everything for the worse
This is due to uncontrolled immigration selling to all Somalia warudi Kwao
...ehh...why should they not buy....or grab....??....
...when elections are stolen...then thugs and terrorists get the room to play around with everything...
...je..ni lini mtashikashisha hizii dots....ama mkiskia madoadoa mnaogopa mkijijua mlivyokosea watu....
...dont blame them...blame youself for the mess....
They are kenyans
Most building niza china
@@edwinmaywa...ehh..but who are buying in particular areas...
..and those buying....all are business ppl...!!...
...is that normal to you...??...
...dots...join them....madoadoa.....
@@qrankmw. I will give you an example USA most population niya foreigner na wanasaidia saa economy as long as they don't misbehave or a security risk
is good every Kenyan to have opportunity to live anywhere in this country
Has anyone stopped you or anyone else from living in any part of the country? Sound physical planning and zoning does not create economic classes. It just takes cognizance of their presence in a society and plans for them. That's why you get a whole range of different types of goods and services to match different pockets. That's why we have benzes, range rovers, tuk tuks and bicycles to match different.
oh no, that's a fridge.
Lavington is not what is used to be, single-unit houses are being replaced with multi-unit houses and high rises making it overcrowded
If you want sunlight and clean air goto mashamba, kenya wont stay behind because your individual desires.
Every person has the right to access sunlight and fresh air as a part of access to health. Stop lowering the bar just because your elected officials are taking bribes and approving buildings that they know are wrong. There are building bye-laws and codes that ought to be strictly adhered to.
@@georgeodhiambo598 Refugees who have destroyed their countries are taking advantage of our progress but don't care what happens to our country. They can move elsewhere. They are only interested in what is working in the short term.
Baridi iliua Tinina.... Mtu ana pocket pesa in such a crazy way of carefree attitude.
This is madness!
Matiangi should just be Nairobi leader
Since the retire of kibaki we've been electing thieves and goons who not only can steal anything near them they can also kill very fast, kibaki removed us from the hole of death of moi and now were 89% going back to the hole again without shame .
Have you been to Hong Kong?
Sijui watu bado wanaishi Nairobi kwanini. Overrated city.
Sio overrated kwangu 😂 Nairobi ni mboko
Opportunities are still very much concentrated here. I for example work in an industry where the only players are based in Nairobi, so navumilia kuishi jijini. Maybe one day devolution will really do its thing, but by then I'll probably be retired 😅
Nakuru is the next option
Y'all should also get to stall / shop rentals,
Hii maneno ya kulipishwa goodwill na landlord ni corruption tupu💔sio tena business permit cert. ,like this is the reason why self employment is quite a headache in 254.Soo saddening that vijana wanajaribu kujijenga but the greedy cartels can't seem to satisfy their interests.Goodwill works if unanunua duka ya mtu...lakini sasa stall empty? I wandaa💀
What do you mean when you state that goodwill is corruption? You can always take a walk to the next landlord if you are not comfortable with paying goodwill. Goodwill is not a purchase price. It is the value built into the property due to its location, previous tenant and loyalty.
If you do not like where you rent or have an apartment in Nairobi's metropolitan urban zone, you're not planted there, you can move to a more spacious house, Nairobi ni yetu zote! there's still entitled families whose "their" luxurious neighborhoods are untouchable! make some moves, you're not planted there!
That's not an excuse for poor planning. How can people build apartments right next to a fuel station? That is a serious disaster waiting to happen. Third World mentalities of just building where we feel like must be avoided, neighbourhoods have to be zoned for obvious reasons, like controlling traffic congestion, protecting wildlife, and ensuring that safety regulations are met.
@@zack7438 Third world mentalities again? do you think Kenyans are not keen and aware why this has been a n issue within Kileleshwa, Kilimani and Kitsuru areas where some first families to establish their private houses there feel entitled not to let others live among them! If you don't remember the same issues within Westlands and Parklands zoning suburbs where the Indians would not let Africans live among them back in 1980/90's, take that mentality back to class! Some of you won't complain how Kibera and Mukuru is congested, you care less about those poor ones but you can complain a freaking petrol station build next to an apartment! again make a move to Karen or Turkana, you're not planted there!
When you have lived your entire life in squalor, unfortunate to have not seen what a well planned living is, you get to have this reasoning. Good planning can cater for all cadres of society. There is nothing wrong with someone who has earned a honest coin and can pay for space and cool ambience having it. Wivu ya nini?
@@fly69jamual62 You assume I live in Nairobi, I don't and do not want to. It is dirty, unsafe, ill- planned and congested. While your arguments about Kibera and Mukuru are valid, it does not justify the continued lack of planning that is happening in Nairobi. Neighbourhoods must be zoned, every country that has developed to First World standards has followed this basic concept. You cannot just put up a bunch of unregulated apartments in areas that were not designated to have high-rise apartments. Today it's Kileleshwa, tomorrow it will be the Nairobi National Park. Rules have to be established. It's too late to save Nairobi, but perhaps the solution going forward is to improve devolution so that people can live elsewhere.
@@duncan.odhiambo.77 Dude there is no wivu here, don't think you got a coin and earned it in a decent way! Nairobi is huge, it has over 5M population, if those 5M can have a space to live, you still can take your earned honest coin there and stop making noises! Stop that medieval thought, Nairobi no longer has 1M, we're taking over almost 6M....Come to America and see people living in the deep city square surrounded by tallest buildings over 50 floors all over the place....relax the population is not even high, 25yrs down the line you will go insane with your decent earned coins LOL
Mushrooming buildings all over😮😮kenya kwisha
Kenya iko sawa ka haupendi building shrooms toka Kenya 😂
@@itsTheTruthTeller nilitoka miaka mingi sana
@@naturelle1097 basi kwanini unabonga na hauko hapa? 😂 You're not being affected?! Nyamaza and enjoy your life wherever you are my fellow Kenyan person 😂 🍻
@@itsTheTruthTeller inaniuma niliacha nchi inapendeza sasa nikirudi nakuta pamechukiza
@@naturelle1097 kwanini unarudi? Si ukae pahali uko 😂😂. Na ka kitu inakuuma enda ukule chakula na ucheki comedy 😂 probably ni hunger na anger ndio zinakufanya usikie uchungu over things that don't affect you in any way. Kenya ni poa kama haikubambi enjoy where you are bro... Wacha kujimada na stress za ufala 😂
For now that's hot air
That man should sue the developer for compensation. Market value of his house before the development plus interest
Good jobs Lavington pipelline 😂😂
This isn't shocking, it will only get worse with time. The Kenyan real estate market is extremely overrated and should be avoided completely. Kenya is doomed.
Nairobi ilisha chapa kitambo.... Serikali zetu zinapenda pesa sana...
Nairobi was planned in 1948 as a colonial city .That is when zoning was introduced.
Governor Sakajja is givingin to a cabal that has no good intentions for Kenya's growth
Kenya is growing, Nairobi is growing. If you don't like it you can move to another country
@@itsTheTruthTeller Growth can be managed and planned for. Why must everyone live in these areas anyway? This Ruto administration is incompetent and corrupt. City planning should be taken extremely seriously in big cities like Nairobi.
@@itsTheTruthTellerGrowth can be managed and planned for. You must be one of these corrupt individuals whose priority is profit.
@@HellenofTroy897 that will come later when there's order, now is time to press forward with plans and yes... I am a very corrupt individual who's priority is profit 😂
@@itsTheTruthTellerdoesn't order come first?
We can't work on our existing infrastructure and think some miracles will happen, and we will end up like New York. 😒 have they seen the state of Kenyatta Avenue all the way to CBD Nkt! Sewage overflowing everywhere and tartared roads.
Na izi pesa zinajenga uku zinatoka wapi.?
Are u anti development. Hutaki watu wa mjengo wapate kazi?
..ehh...money laundering.....
Sasa mnataka tukae enzi za 1970's lazima development zipigwe
African mind programmed to stay poor and low
Oh my goodness, these neighbourhoods used to be so beautiful now they have gine to the dogs. This is pure greed that is destroying Nairobi. Mr. who are you reporting to, nobody in the county government cares probably because they are bribed.
Kwani neighbour akijenga kuna shida😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wonder
Yes, there could be shida because building code specifies minimum spacing between adjacent buildings, flats. They appear to have been flouted here.
Yes, there could be shida because building code specifies minimum spacing between adjacent buildings, flats. They appear to have been flouted here.
Developers are putting building right next to each other