Love seeing John Schneider. I really think he, Annette, and Glover elevated the first few seasons. The younger actors brought the energy and the veterans brought the experience, the combination really made the series work.
Also, they had input that elevated their characters. I know Annette did an interview (can't remember where) where she voiced her frustration when Pete left because she felt that her character would have taken in Pete, I feel that too but I guess the directors didn't want to go that route, and wanted to get rid of Pete for whatever reason.
Tom's excitement & emotion when seeing & interacting with John Schneider was extremely touching! Seeing the level of respect you guys have for each other brings an even greater respect for you guys & the show. THANK YOU guys for being so open.
I didn’t notice it before, but now that John mentions it, I 100% remember that he was doing something in EVERY scene he was in. Always taking his gloves off, or tooling with something in the barn, etc. I never knew how wise he is
Getting into some good episodes! John Schneider was one of my favorite parts of the show. He really embodies the father figure everyone needs. Masculine, leader, loving, caring, patient, and a protector. I always thought he was the best father figure on any show I’ve ever watched. His pride and anger though showed that any great person can still struggle and be overcome if not careful.
Same here. I've loved John Schneider ever since watching him in dukes of Hazzard and he completely fit the role of Jonathan Kent perfectly.. It killed me to watch the episode where he died.
A close second probably in my opinion is Michael Landon's father figure on Little House on the Prairie but yeah Jhon Schneider definitely landed the punches on the father figure that I agree.
The rapport between everyone is much more relaxed and friendly too. I feel like I'm hearing more sponsorships and that means it may at least be paying for itself which may explain it. Good for them, and for us. I hope it keeps getting bigger because Smallville is the only show I own all seasons of the DVDs. These guys seem like good dudes.
Did anyone else get emotional when Tom, Michael and John were all talking? 😭😭 the smiles on all of their faces were so genuine and so sweet. This was a GREAT episode!! Thank you for this!!
I think Clark had the best role models in Johnathan and Martha. The looks that they share whenever something important comes up are wonderful. Having John Schneider on was so uplifting. The way that Tom takes over talking shows that he really respects and admires John.
That’s always been the core of his character. It’s what makes Superman compelling. The story of a man with the power to enslave the world, yet chooses to serve humanity by saving people instead.
@@danielocean3699 quite the contrary, MANY people know that Superman is not boring. However, it's the constant push to make him "edgy" or "modern" that makes him appear this way. I suggest you read more Superman comics, such as "All-Star Superman," "Superman: Birthright," "Superman for All Seasons," or elseworlds storylines like "The Nail" or "Red Son" for an idea of WHY this is a compelling concept. My personal favorite single issue of all time, Action Comics #775 "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" is a PERFECT example of why Superman is still relevant. Superman is NOT boring, he's the exact character we need to remind us that wholesome, upright heroes are still relevant and interesting, but people keep trying to turn him into something he's not.
My husband is a geologist and I was rewatching this episode and he had a meltdown over their geology class project. "Those rocks aren't even found on the same continent let alone in KANSAS!" And they were all polished and shit like they just came from a gem store. It was hilarious.
“Chores Clark. Work keeps a man honest” Just one of the many instances where John exemplified the grace and humility of a character. Even more so to have that translate into the integrity that we, not just as viewers but as people, can carry into our lives for the rest of our days. A privilege and a gift.
@@lukeevans9505 Let’s not disregard Mr Dances with Wolves himself. Different iterations deserve different respects. Costner was excellent with what he was given. It was a “real world approach” to that character. Different settings, different circumstances. He was stern, fair, patient, and loving to which he ultimately instilled in his son. Both in his life and in his death. Take for instance at the moments without dialogue. Just the use of eyes and body language. Specifically when Clark was a child. Jonathan was in awe of Clark. Bewildered and astonished by the ideas of what he can become. Like any rational parent, Jonathan was ultimately fearful of the world and what it might do to his son. He chose to die for his son because of that fear. That fear even haunts Clark throughout the story hence why Jonathan appears as an apparition. Constantly guiding, encouraging and warning him. We must also take into account Jonathan in the DCEU is limited, brief and plenty has been left unexplored. We’ve had a few minutes of screen time with Costner. We’ve had 4 years with Schneider. We can’t fully compare and contrast yet.
I just learned that they were twins from this episode of the Podcast. AWKWARD! but what i learned is that Aaron was soo sweet and didn't correct him for two years.
They have GOT to have Aaron on at some point and ask if he remembered that. I want to hear an embarrassed "yep, you did do that for 2 years but I didn't want to correct you" haha.
I got confused by this comment. But this was Shawn not Aaron right? Smallville credits puts this as Shawn and Jimmy Olsen as Aaron. (I knew they were different but still confuse who is who) Anyways Tom praised his acting ability for doing his Superpowers scenes so easily. I believe it was because he had previously been on the Show Animorphs which if I remember correctly had some similar scenes. (Unless I confused him too and Shawn wasn't in Animorphs)
Watching Tom and John reminisce about Clark and Jonathan was awesome. Their relationship was so on point and central to Clark's development, as we've seen in film and comics. His parents were integral to who he becomes as Superman. Just a treat.
Oh man John Schneider is a treasure. So glad to see him on this podcast. I love the genuine bond you can see and feel between him and Tom. Makes me so nostalgic and happy lol
I love watching Smallville earlier seasons when Clark's parents were still around because of the messages it gives to the viewers. I find the life lessons on the show therapeutic when I didn't have access to a therapist or a life coach at the time. The show was worth watching. 👍
John Schneider talking to you guys is so wholesome😭the joy on all your faces when you guys are talking to one another was perfect. Tom and John are extremely similar to their characters they play the Dad and Son role so perfectly.
My Aunt (not Daisy Duke) acted with John several times on The Dukes of Hazard and has nothing but praise for how professional and smart he is as an actor. Great interview guys!
One of my all time favorite episodes. Also has one of my favorite comeback quotes from Lex after Victoria smacks Lex and says " We could have been great together" and Lex says " I plan on being great all by myself" Such a thing Lex Luthor would say.
This episode was the first episode that explored Clark without his powers. A very classic trop that happens in comic book properties where the hero powers get transferred temporarily to another who doesn’t have the moral sense to use his powers for the good of humanity. Once again this show highlights how essential The Kent’s are to Clark’s development into what makes Superman such a beacon of hope and Purity. Jonathan imparts wisdom to his son that it’s not his powers that makes him special it’s him. I like how Lex sorted gets hoodwinked into believing he’s finally figured out Clark’s secret only to see first hand Clark is mortal and can bleed.
Wow, I didn't realize how much I missed John Schneider until I saw him here. There is something very comforting about his voice and mannerisms. He's bringing tears to my eyes.
This podcast is truly the gift that keeps giving. The kindness, respect and positive energy that radiates from you both is something that is not seen everyday. Some of my Special Education students have difficulty holding and starting a respectful conversation. After listening to a snippet from last week’s episode, one of my students said, “wow, I can disagree with someone in a nice way with out hitting them. “ This was HUGE. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for being SUPER men who make an epic podcast. You bring so much joy to so many and are a shinning light in a very dark world. We are all so lucky to be a part of this journey 🙏🏻❤️❤️. Btw, as far as the Ashmores go, Shawn played Eric in this and another episode. Aaron played Jimmy Olsen . Just a friendly fyi 😊
I don’t know why but seeing Tom calling John dad brought tears to my eyes! This podcast is so cool and things like that make it even more special! Thanks for that! Loads of love from Brazil ❤🇧🇷
What I loved about this episode is that it does a good job of highlighting the importance of Jonathan and Martha Kent's role in shaping who Clark Kent is. As you guy's said, it could've gone very differently in another household!
Dean Cain had a really great line in his series where he said, "Superman is what I can do...Clark is who I am". That line leads true here in this episode
@Cassandra Morrison when it comes to TV and Movies I respect the on screen product that was done at the time. I could care less what video you think CANCELLED him. Anyone can get Canceled nowadays.
To be fair, Dean was beloved as Superman, huge followship, millions of people watching, on a horrible time slot (Sundays). However, Cain carried that show. No one else could hold a candle. They got a terrible Lex Luthor and a gorgeous Lois, beyond that, he just couldn't bounce back properly with a great villain ala Glover and Rosey in Smallville. It was also much lighter. I don't know anyone who likes Superman, who doesn't appreciate or enjoy Dean, I know I do. Welling and Cain are easily top 5 Superman.
This is pretty much my favourite episode from season 1. Such a great concept for an episode and I think Tom really sold it, from the initial confusion and frustration, to the relief and joy of being normal, to the internal strength and sense of responsibility. I really liked when Clark asked his parents if they still saw him the same without his powers, it felt very real and kind of highlighted their relationship. I loved how John just stared at Clark for a moment, like he couldn't believe he'd even consider that. I also liked that it had an impact on his relationship with Lex, he drops his suspicions and lets him off the hook... for now, anyway lol. I love this podcast! Thanks guys ✨ 🌹🌹🌹
Gotta say this. John Schneider and John are both father figures for these two in real life. That's the sense I get. Secondly, just seeing how excited they get talking about Smallville and reminiscing about all the episodes up until now, would love to see something in the works of a possible continuation of Smallville in the near future. Or at least some sort of a TV movie type deal. That would be awesome to see. Love what is happening here. Just so many memories.
Eating this up with a spoon. This is an iconic episode with John. Something about this whole podcast feels like history in the making. To come back and relive one of the best decades of my life is such a treat. All of your impressions and backstories are really enriching the original episodes. Keep it up!
Loving this episode so far. I love the father and son relationship that Jonathan and Clark have. It is creepy that Lionel slept with Victoria. I enjoyed hearing Michael’s British accent. Y’all made my morning.
What was great about this episode was how they showed ashmore doing all the things with powers that we kind of always wanted to see Clark do, like beat up his bullies haha! It shows just how impressive it is that Clark is as well adjusted as he is. Plus the EPIC “I’m the bone cracker! I’m the bone cracker” song 😂😂
@@danzwku I mean, he definitely had a gut feeling that Aaron played Jimmy, but really didn’t push back when told he was wrong. I mean, yeah, it was over a decade ago, but still 😂
I wrote this on another post but they are so much a like. If you ever watch a show called the rookie, Shawn is on there as a lawyer but he acts just like Jimmy Olsen. Hes a kind person with a underdog can do attitude. Btw I know Aaron played Jimmy but that's my point. If you just watch the show, you couldn't tell which one it is.
I loved seeing you guys and John talking. Knowing how Tom has talked about how much John was a mentor to him, and how much time you spent together on the show, it's so clear how fond you all are of each other. It's wonderful
You know you have something amazing going when its recorded for just over an hour but when watching feels way less. I could just sit here and listen and soak up all the nostalgia you guys ooze out for hours, and you can tell that when all together you guys could just go on for days.. it's truly refreshing and beautiful to see. Thanks Rosey yet again for another great Wednesday podcast.
Yes! You got Schneider! Thank you! Been hoping you'd get him on. Dude was such a huge part of my childhood (Dukes) and early adulthood years with Smallville. Such a great dude.
Absolutely loved seeing John. I was grinning from ear to ear the entire time. What a gentleman. What a caring, strong and kind person. Bring that man back as many times as you can handle.
i love how much they respect and enjoy each others company. you can definitely see how the chemistry added on to make smallville so great. love this podcast so glad i finally checked out smallville this year and now we’ve got this podcast too!
At least 2 roses for sure, maybe even 2.5 🌹🌹 This is probably my favorite episode since the Pilot, and one I routinely will rewatch with excitement every time.
This episode gets 3 Roses from me! One of my favorites. Lex-"I plan on being great all by myself" 32:50 It showed Lex's big brain. Jonathan-"Seeing how destructive Eric got, just reminds me of how special you really are." 38:40 and it showed Clark always does the right thing, without powers, (and even harder to do) with powers. time stamps are for the quotes in the Smallville episode
There’s an episode in season 9 or 10 I think that has an alternate universe where Clark was raised by Lionel! He is a jerk to say the least lol. It was an amazing testament to how big part the Kents were to Clark being who he became. I loved John as a guest. I can’t wait to see him back! I give this one two 🌹 I love the episodes where Clark is normal or he isn’t his usual self. I enjoy Tom’s nuanced performance choices in those episodes, like how Lana says he seems different and he doesn’t have the weight of the world on his shoulders, you could see it! Tom was great there. The 00s soundtrack was amazing this episode, so many trips down memory lane.
JS was perfect casting. Even in real life he has an air of someone that's made mistakes and learnt from them and can offer fatherly advice. I was smiling through that whole interview, such a lovely man. And WHY DOESN'T HE AGE??
What a treat to see John Scheider, I'm late to the podcast here but I'm getting through them as quickly as I can...keep them coming.... absolutely loving it..😊
Man Smallville built the cw. It perfected the formula the cw went with for decades after. This podcast has inspired me to rewatch each episode and then listen after. Thanks!!!
This was incredible. Every moment that John Schneider spoke, I felt the need to be 100% attentive and I enjoyed everything he said. Thanks for having him on!
This really was a good episode. You had Clark without powers, being conflicted between relief and not being able to shake his sense of responsibility. You had a cunning Lex moment when he was able to hand the Hardwick's their asses. You had that compelling story of what if someone with Clark's powers wasn't raised by people as noble as the Kent's. The performances all around were great too, glad you guys used that clip of the initial shock and fear Clark went through when he realized his powers were gone. Welling rocked that moment.
To you guys this might just be a fun kind of thing that y’all can do together, but for some us this is truly therapy with a bit of nostalgia so y’all are doing more than you know by doing this podcast. Y’all are my childhood heroes so thanks so much
Awesome podcast episode. I always loved John Schneider and especially his portrayal of Clark's dad. This was the first episode where Clark's powers were transferred to someone else, and each of those episodes are fantastic!
25:42. This is without a doubt my favorite moment of all the episodes. Ripping on that poor dude’s accent hilarious. I come back every couple months for a loff guv’na. 😂
This was the best episode so far! To see how your faces light up with John joins the conversation and to see all of the stories you have makes this podcast so enjoyable. It is so fun to see you guys reminisce and enjoy a show that has given so many of us something to watch for so many years. I cannot wait to see who else you can get to guest star.
Man i love that you guys are still close and doing this so many years later. SmallVille is my all time favorite in the super hero genre of shows and love being taken back through each episode. Will be listening in for hopefully the entire series and maybe just maybe we will find out why Clark could fly in one of his dreams in Season 1 but then never again until the very last episode... you guys are awesome keep up the great work!
I loved this episode because it showed the strength that the Kents have especially Clark's parents because despite he lost his power they showed a lot of support when we saw Clark being frustrated of losing them.
Amazing episode of both shows. the memories this bring back is so comforting think of a time with out stress and anxiety. Being that carefree kis again for two hours on wednesday.
“Always hold on to Smallville” 💯‼️❤️ thank you for this podcast. Having John Schneider on the show today reminded me even more, why I love all things Smallville. To see the mutual respect and adoration you have for one another is heartwarming; it’s no wonder Smallville was / is such a success. I’ve seen it often written in the comments: “it’s the gift that keeps on giving” true that! Highlight of my Wednesday! 🙌🏽🙌🏽 Leech = 🌹.5 roses 😊 I forgot how early on Shawn Ashmore was featured on the show. So awesome. Looking forward to see him more, as well as Aaron Ashmore.
John Schneider is gold. His acting in Smallville is so authentic and indeed his presence is demanding. The Luther's together with their witty lines are also so good.
My favorite part of the episode is when Eric asks Clark what he would do if he had the power to do anything and Clark says “I’d stop people like you” 😭That’s Superman! I also got unexpected goosebumps throughout the John Schneider interview.
This podcast does keep on giving. Love seeing John Schneider on this episode and hearing his thoughts on the show and reflecting on the character of Jonothan as a whole. Thank You so much for having him on. He Truly was a strong pillar throughout the early years of Smallville. Always enjoyed seeing the guidance and love he gave Clark throughout the show. Truly what made him into the world's greatest hero. This so lovely to watch.😀❤
Didn’t know about this pod literally just rewatched the series again lol absolutely one of the better parts of my childhood/highschools. Great pod guys
I think john's message about how he saw something similiar in his relation with Clark and his real son and how he conveyed that into his acting was really beautiful. He seems like such a nice person!
What a delightful podcast today, LOVED special guest John Schneider! Wow...I could listen to John talk all day, so much wisdom, such lovely comments, can't wait to see him as a special guest again. The Ashmore twins are awesome, I had to pinch myself (again...as I always do when an actor from my most favourite show EVER makes the effort to travel halfway across the world to little ol' Perth Western Australia) when I met Aaron at an Oz Comic con. So much fun, excited for Jimmy episodes in the future. Shawn was great in Leech especially showcasing what HE would do with Clark's powers, he looked great doing it, especially with a pumping soundtrack backing him up. Love and appreciate you guys doing this podcast and I love how you love saying our names at the end...love hearing it! (SO MUCH LOVE!! ) #AlwaysholdontoSmallville #AlwayslistentoTalkVille
This is such a great episode! I love the dynamic between Clark and his father. It was always such a highlight of the show. It was so lovely having John Schneider on this episode. He's the best Jonathan Kent I've seen. He embodied the fatherly love so well and his scenes with Clark were some of my favourites in the whole show. Always so touching. It was so cute when Tom was like "hi dad!" Haha. It's clear you guys all get along really well. Can't wait to see him back again.
Ok this might be my fave episode (besides the pilot) because we finally get a “what if” clark was normal (for a majority of the episode) but at a cost. Those same powers that Clark has always been reluctant to have and made him feel alienated- have corrupted the other boy who happened to pick them up. It really shows it’s how you use the powers rather then having powers itself that shows how a hero and who isn’t. And shoutout to Clark parents who are the true reason Clark despite having powers could grow up normal and still love him even if he lost them forever (unlike certain parents on the show cough cough)
I love how proud John is of the two of them, you can see it in his face, thank you guys for the podcast. Smallville was and still is a big part of my life, keep up the great work!
Aww Ryan, I am so glad you are also there!🙃 What a wonderful episode of Smallville, and what a great episode of Talk Ville, I loved this one, and it was so wonderful to see John Schneider, I can't wait to see him come back and talk some more. I loved hearing him talk about how characters in a scene should be continuing to act, telling their own story, regardless of what the main character is doing, it just makes everything so much more relatable and real. I loved the ideas around how parenting influences how a character reacts to the responsibility of having powers, and how Clark was having to deal with potentially being normal, it must have been really disorientating for him. I thought the conversation about Victoria was also really interesting, the bit with the photos was a bit weird and creepy. I wonder if that kind of female character would be written slightly differently if the show were being made today, like she would have been capable of trying to screw Lex over with more than just tits and ass, so she still would have slept with him, but maybe would have had a bit more imagination, instead of just sleeping with his dad... I know if I want to screw someone over, sleeping with their dad isn't usually on the top of my list 🤣. Loved Shawn Ashmore, it is great to hear you guys say what a great job he did, I think he is great in everything he does (definitely him) and I'm not sure he gets enough credit generally out there in the world. I really enjoyed this one, I'm with Ryan, 🌹🌹. Thank you Rosey, Tom, Ryan and John! ❤
It's so crazy to me that ya'll want to do the sign off as "Always hold on to Smallville" because that is a quote that holds so much meaning and I never hear anyone saying it or referencing it. My brother and I watched the entire show together, and we really bonded over the show. We actually really like that quote, and we both got sibling tattoos and got that quote on our arms. So it's cool that you guys are referencing it.❤️
John Schneider is the best. That was a terrific conversation and I think he was the perfect person to play Johnathan Kent. He seems to be as loving and positive and more as his character. Thank you Smallville from a big superhero fan who has all the DVDS bought when it was on and loving the rewatch!
John Schneider is so great. I'm older so I still remember him in Dukes of Hazard, I was just old enough to be around when it first came out and it's one of those shows that sticks with you.
I loved John Schneider in Dr Quinn and he actually surprised me when he mentions his time on that series and Michaela because I have almost everything he is in and every episode even in Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, he always has Daniel Simon doing something. Im glad he stuck with 'Dr Quinning it'. Reminds me so much of my favorite uncle ... you rock John ... love from this Kiwi xx
Absolutely phenomenal! You guys are really getting into a groove with Talkville. I've watched smallville since I was 5 years old, I'm now almost 24. Rewatching it yet again right now! Love you guys so much!
Wow, I loved what John said when he compared his son to Clark Kent in regards to raising a special needs child. With both his son and the character of Clark, he saw a child "that needed to be nurtured and needed to take those abilities and turn them into something good". What an amazing perspective. Loving these episodes so much! Please bring John Shnidy back!! Looking forward to next Wednesday
This podcast just keeps getting better & better! Thanks so much for getting John Schneider to come on. He is a rarity in Hollywood, a man of true grit and character. Any actor would be blessed to have him as a mentor.
Jonathan Kent in Smallville is the best father figure in any media ever
We don't see anyone like Jonathan Kent in any tv show anymore... I wonder why?
@@Mangomesh Patriarchy, duh 😂 all-American white males are portrayed through the lens of “toxic masculinity” nowadays
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Also Sandy from The O.C. lol
Amen
Tom telling John “Hey dad” melted me 😭😭😭
Grow up
@@danielocean3699 you first.
It's the best part haha
It was so cute!
@@danielocean3699 Jog on.
I’ve come to expect Rosenbaum to mention his crush on Aunt Nell whenever she’s mentioned, and he didn’t disappoint this time 😂
I thought it was just me. Lol.
@Thomas B without a doubt
He needs to watch Millenium
@@redeem147 Was she on that show? I remember watching it always enjoyed Lance Hendrickson.
Can’t wait for him to mention it when she comes back in S7 after 5 seasons of not being around.
Love seeing John Schneider. I really think he, Annette, and Glover elevated the first few seasons. The younger actors brought the energy and the veterans brought the experience, the combination really made the series work.
Also, they had input that elevated their characters. I know Annette did an interview (can't remember where) where she voiced her frustration when Pete left because she felt that her character would have taken in Pete, I feel that too but I guess the directors didn't want to go that route, and wanted to get rid of Pete for whatever reason.
First year Martha Kent and aunt Nell were smokin hot
@@rudesword2852No doubt, I've had a crush on annette o'toole since she played Lana Lang in Superman 3.
Sums up perfectly how I've felt.
Well said!
Tom's excitement & emotion when seeing & interacting with John Schneider was extremely touching! Seeing the level of respect you guys have for each other brings an even greater respect for you guys & the show. THANK YOU guys for being so open.
I didn’t notice it before, but now that John mentions it, I 100% remember that he was doing something in EVERY scene he was in. Always taking his gloves off, or tooling with something in the barn, etc.
I never knew how wise he is
Part of what made the show great. It was natural and you'd never catch a farmer standing around so it made perfect sense.
it made his character really believable
@@thisisnotme33yeah i never would've realized so much of that was not scripted! It made it so so much better and was so memorable.
Getting into some good episodes! John Schneider was one of my favorite parts of the show. He really embodies the father figure everyone needs. Masculine, leader, loving, caring, patient, and a protector. I always thought he was the best father figure on any show I’ve ever watched. His pride and anger though showed that any great person can still struggle and be overcome if not careful.
Very indeed!
Same here. I've loved John Schneider ever since watching him in dukes of Hazzard and he completely fit the role of Jonathan Kent perfectly.. It killed me to watch the episode where he died.
Agreed!
I concur
A close second probably in my opinion is Michael Landon's father figure on Little House on the Prairie but yeah Jhon Schneider definitely landed the punches on the father figure that I agree.
Bumped into Aaron at a con he said he’d be super down to come on talk bills when you guys get to Jimmy Olsen episodes
That'd be cool. I think he was considering giving up in acting right before he landed Jimmy
Cool!
Did he say why he wouldn't guest on Talk Ville and go to Talk Bills?
Aaron Ashmore is always a sweetheart!
@@MoramothHauntz i doubt that, in the 90s he did "animorphs" the tv show based on the popular kids book then he went to xmen
You can tell the energy of the podcast is getting higher as it's getting past the early episodes. Great job guys
thanks for noticing bud
The show was getting better as well so that helps a lot.
The rapport between everyone is much more relaxed and friendly too. I feel like I'm hearing more sponsorships and that means it may at least be paying for itself which may explain it. Good for them, and for us. I hope it keeps getting bigger because Smallville is the only show I own all seasons of the DVDs. These guys seem like good dudes.
When Tom called John dad it made my heart melt. Keep it up guys. This is great. You guys are finding the groove now.
Did anyone else get emotional when Tom, Michael and John were all talking? 😭😭 the smiles on all of their faces were so genuine and so sweet.
This was a GREAT episode!! Thank you for this!!
Old times ❤️
Yeah I’m halfway through the episode and I had to stop because I’m bawling right now.
Sooo heartwarming.
Came to the comments to see if I was the only one 😂
Sooooo emotional. Unbelievable.
Johnathan Kent was one of the best father figures on any show ever 💛
I think Clark had the best role models in Johnathan and Martha. The looks that they share whenever something important comes up are wonderful. Having John Schneider on was so uplifting. The way that Tom takes over talking shows that he really respects and admires John.
I always thought Clark's most important powers were his compassion & integrity. This episode further proved that.
That’s always been the core of his character. It’s what makes Superman compelling. The story of a man with the power to enslave the world, yet chooses to serve humanity by saving people instead.
that’s what the recent movies seem to forget tbh
That’s why people think Superman is boring af lol. Nobody wants to see someone’s ‘most important power’ be compassion. Smfh lol 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@danielocean3699 quite the contrary, MANY people know that Superman is not boring. However, it's the constant push to make him "edgy" or "modern" that makes him appear this way. I suggest you read more Superman comics, such as "All-Star Superman," "Superman: Birthright," "Superman for All Seasons," or elseworlds storylines like "The Nail" or "Red Son" for an idea of WHY this is a compelling concept. My personal favorite single issue of all time, Action Comics #775 "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" is a PERFECT example of why Superman is still relevant. Superman is NOT boring, he's the exact character we need to remind us that wholesome, upright heroes are still relevant and interesting, but people keep trying to turn him into something he's not.
@@SavvyNitro 💯
My husband is a geologist and I was rewatching this episode and he had a meltdown over their geology class project. "Those rocks aren't even found on the same continent let alone in KANSAS!" And they were all polished and shit like they just came from a gem store. It was hilarious.
“Chores Clark. Work keeps a man honest”
Just one of the many instances where John exemplified the grace and humility of a character. Even more so to have that translate into the integrity that we, not just as viewers but as people, can carry into our lives for the rest of our days. A privilege and a gift.
So well said ❤️
I read that quote in John Schneider’s voice!😂
That is one of the main lines that I’ve remembered my whole life
Which is why he was a better Johnathan Kent than Kevin Costner. JS teaches him how to be Superman. KC did not.
@@lukeevans9505 Let’s not disregard Mr Dances with Wolves himself. Different iterations deserve different respects. Costner was excellent with what he was given. It was a “real world approach” to that character. Different settings, different circumstances. He was stern, fair, patient, and loving to which he ultimately instilled in his son. Both in his life and in his death. Take for instance at the moments without dialogue. Just the use of eyes and body language. Specifically when Clark was a child. Jonathan was in awe of Clark. Bewildered and astonished by the ideas of what he can become. Like any rational parent, Jonathan was ultimately fearful of the world and what it might do to his son. He chose to die for his son because of that fear. That fear even haunts Clark throughout the story hence why Jonathan appears as an apparition. Constantly guiding, encouraging and warning him. We must also take into account Jonathan in the DCEU is limited, brief and plenty has been left unexplored. We’ve had a few minutes of screen time with Costner. We’ve had 4 years with Schneider. We can’t fully compare and contrast yet.
He was the perfect father figure in Smallville. Every time he speaks on the show everyone listened. What an Actor.
I love seeing the level of love and respect in Tom's eyes when John came on. ♥️ You guys are the best!
thanks Lady ❤️
The biggest revelation from this episode has to be the fact that Tom thought Aaron was Shawn the entire time he was on the show.
To be fair I literally didn't know they were different people until I watched this podcast lol
I just learned that they were twins from this episode of the Podcast. AWKWARD! but what i learned is that Aaron was soo sweet and didn't correct him for two years.
They have GOT to have Aaron on at some point and ask if he remembered that. I want to hear an embarrassed "yep, you did do that for 2 years but I didn't want to correct you" haha.
I can't blame him, I thought John and Danny Glover were the same person for years :)
I got confused by this comment. But this was Shawn not Aaron right? Smallville credits puts this as Shawn and Jimmy Olsen as Aaron. (I knew they were different but still confuse who is who)
Anyways Tom praised his acting ability for doing his Superpowers scenes so easily. I believe it was because he had previously been on the Show Animorphs which if I remember correctly had some similar scenes. (Unless I confused him too and Shawn wasn't in Animorphs)
Watching Tom and John reminisce about Clark and Jonathan was awesome. Their relationship was so on point and central to Clark's development, as we've seen in film and comics. His parents were integral to who he becomes as Superman. Just a treat.
John Schneider is the best portrayal of Johnathan Kent we’ve seen on any screen. Excited for him to come back on the podcast in future episodes.
John is an epic guest on the podcast! Shawn Ashmore was great in the episode. Loving this pod!
You’re the best Sophie ❤️
Oh man John Schneider is a treasure. So glad to see him on this podcast. I love the genuine bond you can see and feel between him and Tom. Makes me so nostalgic and happy lol
I know!
I love watching Smallville earlier seasons when Clark's parents were still around because of the messages it gives to the viewers. I find the life lessons on the show therapeutic when I didn't have access to a therapist or a life coach at the time. The show was worth watching. 👍
John Schneider talking to you guys is so wholesome😭the joy on all your faces when you guys are talking to one another was perfect. Tom and John are extremely similar to their characters they play the Dad and Son role so perfectly.
My Aunt (not Daisy Duke) acted with John several times on The Dukes of Hazard and has nothing but praise for how professional and smart he is as an actor. Great interview guys!
It was great seeing Tom light up talking to John. You can tell they really care about each other.
One of my all time favorite episodes. Also has one of my favorite comeback quotes from Lex after Victoria smacks Lex and says " We could have been great together" and Lex says " I plan on being great all by myself" Such a thing Lex Luthor would say.
I love how when John comes on, Tom just takes over the show. You can really tell how much he likes him.
This was great, guys!
This episode was the first episode that explored Clark without his powers. A very classic trop that happens in comic book properties where the hero powers get transferred temporarily to another who doesn’t have the moral sense to use his powers for the good of humanity. Once again this show highlights how essential The Kent’s are to Clark’s development into what makes Superman such a beacon of hope and Purity. Jonathan imparts wisdom to his son that it’s not his powers that makes him special it’s him. I like how Lex sorted gets hoodwinked into believing he’s finally figured out Clark’s secret only to see first hand Clark is mortal and can bleed.
Good note bud
Wow, I didn't realize how much I missed John Schneider until I saw him here. There is something very comforting about his voice and mannerisms. He's bringing tears to my eyes.
This podcast is truly the gift that keeps giving. The kindness, respect and positive energy that radiates from you both is something that is not seen everyday. Some of my Special Education students have difficulty holding and starting a respectful conversation. After listening to a snippet from last week’s episode, one of my students said, “wow, I can disagree with someone in a nice way with out hitting them. “ This was HUGE. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for being SUPER men who make an epic podcast. You bring so much joy to so many and are a shinning light in a very dark world. We are all so lucky to be a part of this journey 🙏🏻❤️❤️.
Btw, as far as the Ashmores go, Shawn played Eric in this and another episode. Aaron played Jimmy Olsen . Just a friendly fyi 😊
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Wow, that's amazing 🙏 I think they are great positive role models too! Xx
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You’re a gem Leanne ❤️❤️
@@TalkVillePodcast thank you. Appreciate it ❤️
"Lex, I used to have powers until today!" That made me laugh out loud! :)
Wow this gave me chills John is the dad of smallville the rhythm of this podcast is amazing thanks guys 🌹🌹
Solid score
I don’t know why but seeing Tom calling John dad brought tears to my eyes! This podcast is so cool and things like that make it even more special! Thanks for that! Loads of love from Brazil ❤🇧🇷
What I loved about this episode is that it does a good job of highlighting the importance of Jonathan and Martha Kent's role in shaping who Clark Kent is. As you guy's said, it could've gone very differently in another household!
Absolutely 🙌
Dean Cain had a really great line in his series where he said, "Superman is what I can do...Clark is who I am". That line leads true here in this episode
Exactly! And people can say what they want about Dean but that show was pretty great in my eyes.
Ever watch Superman VS The Mole Men? If you ever do you will learn why Mr. Cain's years in the cape have been CANCELLED.
@Cassandra Morrison when it comes to TV and Movies I respect the on screen product that was done at the time. I could care less what video you think CANCELLED him. Anyone can get Canceled nowadays.
To be fair, Dean was beloved as Superman, huge followship, millions of people watching, on a horrible time slot (Sundays). However, Cain carried that show. No one else could hold a candle. They got a terrible Lex Luthor and a gorgeous Lois, beyond that, he just couldn't bounce back properly with a great villain ala Glover and Rosey in Smallville. It was also much lighter.
I don't know anyone who likes Superman, who doesn't appreciate or enjoy Dean, I know I do. Welling and Cain are easily top 5 Superman.
@vandalg282 Exactly💯. Dean Cain was a Wonderful Superman.
This is pretty much my favourite episode from season 1. Such a great concept for an episode and I think Tom really sold it, from the initial confusion and frustration, to the relief and joy of being normal, to the internal strength and sense of responsibility. I really liked when Clark asked his parents if they still saw him the same without his powers, it felt very real and kind of highlighted their relationship. I loved how John just stared at Clark for a moment, like he couldn't believe he'd even consider that. I also liked that it had an impact on his relationship with Lex, he drops his suspicions and lets him off the hook... for now, anyway lol. I love this podcast! Thanks guys ✨ 🌹🌹🌹
seeing lots of love for Leech
Gotta say this. John Schneider and John are both father figures for these two in real life. That's the sense I get. Secondly, just seeing how excited they get talking about Smallville and reminiscing about all the episodes up until now, would love to see something in the works of a possible continuation of Smallville in the near future. Or at least some sort of a TV movie type deal. That would be awesome to see. Love what is happening here. Just so many memories.
Favourite time of the week amazing to see Jon Kent on the podcast
Such a great time with John
Eating this up with a spoon. This is an iconic episode with John. Something about this whole podcast feels like history in the making. To come back and relive one of the best decades of my life is such a treat. All of your impressions and backstories are really enriching the original episodes. Keep it up!
Loving this episode so far. I love the father and son relationship that Jonathan and Clark have. It is creepy that Lionel slept with Victoria. I enjoyed hearing Michael’s British accent. Y’all made my morning.
Super creepy haha
Oh man. Schneider brings so much charisma and wisdom to both the podcast and the show. Smallville was blessed with the perfect Pa Kent.
What was great about this episode was how they showed ashmore doing all the things with powers that we kind of always wanted to see Clark do, like beat up his bullies haha! It shows just how impressive it is that Clark is as well adjusted as he is. Plus the EPIC “I’m the bone cracker! I’m the bone cracker” song 😂😂
Lol.
Amazing how fatherly John was to Tom even off camera. Awesome!
Ryan’s info is usually spot on. Shawn was Eric in this episode, yes, but Aaron played Jimmy Olsen in later seasons. Love you guys!
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@@TalkVillePodcast it's actually kind of funny to think that Tom acted with both Shawn and Aaron and didn't realize they were two different people xD
@@danzwku I mean, he definitely had a gut feeling that Aaron played Jimmy, but really didn’t push back when told he was wrong. I mean, yeah, it was over a decade ago, but still 😂
I wrote this on another post but they are so much a like. If you ever watch a show called the rookie, Shawn is on there as a lawyer but he acts just like Jimmy Olsen. Hes a kind person with a underdog can do attitude. Btw I know Aaron played Jimmy but that's my point. If you just watch the show, you couldn't tell which one it is.
@@Reeseclan I wonder how often they cover for each other for acting gigs or appearances or just random appointments and meetings.
I loved seeing you guys and John talking. Knowing how Tom has talked about how much John was a mentor to him, and how much time you spent together on the show, it's so clear how fond you all are of each other. It's wonderful
Loved this smallville episode. This, jitters, and hug were three stand outs for me in season one (besides the pilot). Fun podcast today
Thanks buddy ❤️
You know you have something amazing going when its recorded for just over an hour but when watching feels way less. I could just sit here and listen and soak up all the nostalgia you guys ooze out for hours, and you can tell that when all together you guys could just go on for days.. it's truly refreshing and beautiful to see. Thanks Rosey yet again for another great Wednesday podcast.
Needs to be 2 hours at least.
Yes! You got Schneider! Thank you! Been hoping you'd get him on. Dude was such a huge part of my childhood (Dukes) and early adulthood years with Smallville. Such a great dude.
Schneider was so good. Definitely need him back
"Hey Dad" absolutely awesome!! Love to listen to John. This is fab!
Best episode of, "Talk Ville" yet...shiz got real...
Considering Michael's language, shouldn't that be "Talk Vile"??
Absolutely loved seeing John. I was grinning from ear to ear the entire time. What a gentleman. What a caring, strong and kind person. Bring that man back as many times as you can handle.
Love it when there are guests! Watching John interact with you guys was so much fun.
i love how much they respect and enjoy each others company. you can definitely see how the chemistry added on to make smallville so great. love this podcast so glad i finally checked out smallville this year and now we’ve got this podcast too!
My favorite episode so far. I can't wait for more Schneider!
At least 2 roses for sure, maybe even 2.5 🌹🌹
This is probably my favorite episode since the Pilot, and one I routinely will rewatch with excitement every time.
My heart melted after this episode seriously guys thank you
Glad you enjoyed bud
This episode gets 3 Roses from me! One of my favorites. Lex-"I plan on being great all by myself" 32:50 It showed Lex's big brain. Jonathan-"Seeing how destructive Eric got, just reminds me of how special you really are." 38:40 and it showed Clark always does the right thing, without powers, (and even harder to do) with powers. time stamps are for the quotes in the Smallville episode
There’s an episode in season 9 or 10 I think that has an alternate universe where Clark was raised by Lionel! He is a jerk to say the least lol. It was an amazing testament to how big part the Kents were to Clark being who he became. I loved John as a guest. I can’t wait to see him back! I give this one two 🌹 I love the episodes where Clark is normal or he isn’t his usual self. I enjoy Tom’s nuanced performance choices in those episodes, like how Lana says he seems different and he doesn’t have the weight of the world on his shoulders, you could see it! Tom was great there. The 00s soundtrack was amazing this episode, so many trips down memory lane.
Yep that’s a great one
there was a few episodes about that alternate universe titled "Kent" and "Luthor"
@Thomas B agreed! Can’t wait till they get to those episodes.
This was an awesome podcast. John Schneider's memory of lines from an episode he didnt rewatch is incredible. Such a great guy too.
JS was perfect casting. Even in real life he has an air of someone that's made mistakes and learnt from them and can offer fatherly advice. I was smiling through that whole interview, such a lovely man. And WHY DOESN'T HE AGE??
What a treat to see John Scheider, I'm late to the podcast here but I'm getting through them as quickly as I can...keep them coming.... absolutely loving it..😊
Man Smallville built the cw. It perfected the formula the cw went with for decades after. This podcast has inspired me to rewatch each episode and then listen after. Thanks!!!
Buffy and Charmed built the WB. Smallville built upon it.
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This was incredible. Every moment that John Schneider spoke, I felt the need to be 100% attentive and I enjoyed everything he said. Thanks for having him on!
This really was a good episode. You had Clark without powers, being conflicted between relief and not being able to shake his sense of responsibility. You had a cunning Lex moment when he was able to hand the Hardwick's their asses. You had that compelling story of what if someone with Clark's powers wasn't raised by people as noble as the Kent's. The performances all around were great too, glad you guys used that clip of the initial shock and fear Clark went through when he realized his powers were gone. Welling rocked that moment.
To you guys this might just be a fun kind of thing that y’all can do together, but for some us this is truly therapy with a bit of nostalgia so y’all are doing more than you know by doing this podcast. Y’all are my childhood heroes so thanks so much
Awesome podcast episode. I always loved John Schneider and especially his portrayal of Clark's dad. This was the first episode where Clark's powers were transferred to someone else, and each of those episodes are fantastic!
25:42. This is without a doubt my favorite moment of all the episodes. Ripping on that poor dude’s accent hilarious. I come back every couple months for a loff guv’na. 😂
This was the best episode so far! To see how your faces light up with John joins the conversation and to see all of the stories you have makes this podcast so enjoyable. It is so fun to see you guys reminisce and enjoy a show that has given so many of us something to watch for so many years. I cannot wait to see who else you can get to guest star.
I can listen to John talk about the industry and giving advise all day.
Man i love that you guys are still close and doing this so many years later. SmallVille is my all time favorite in the super hero genre of shows and love being taken back through each episode. Will be listening in for hopefully the entire series and maybe just maybe we will find out why Clark could fly in one of his dreams in Season 1 but then never again until the very last episode... you guys are awesome keep up the great work!
I loved this episode because it showed the strength that the Kents have especially Clark's parents because despite he lost his power they showed a lot of support when we saw Clark being frustrated of losing them.
Amazing episode of both shows. the memories this bring back is so comforting think of a time with out stress and anxiety. Being that carefree kis again for two hours on wednesday.
So many good memories in this one
“Always hold on to Smallville” 💯‼️❤️ thank you for this podcast. Having John Schneider on the show today reminded me even more, why I love all things Smallville. To see the mutual respect and adoration you have for one another is heartwarming; it’s no wonder Smallville was / is such a success. I’ve seen it often written in the comments: “it’s the gift that keeps on giving” true that! Highlight of my Wednesday! 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Leech = 🌹.5 roses 😊
I forgot how early on Shawn Ashmore was featured on the show. So awesome. Looking forward to see him more, as well as Aaron Ashmore.
John Schneider is gold. His acting in Smallville is so authentic and indeed his presence is demanding. The Luther's together with their witty lines are also so good.
My favorite part of the episode is when Eric asks Clark what he would do if he had the power to do anything and Clark says “I’d stop people like you” 😭That’s Superman! I also got unexpected goosebumps throughout the John Schneider interview.
Really fun! Looking forward to John coming back
Us too ❤️
I loved this episode. Thank you for having him on. This was really special.
This podcast does keep on giving. Love seeing John Schneider on this episode and hearing his thoughts on the show and reflecting on the character of Jonothan as a whole. Thank You so much for having him on. He Truly was a strong pillar throughout the early years of Smallville. Always enjoyed seeing the guidance and love he gave Clark throughout the show. Truly what made him into the world's greatest hero. This so lovely to watch.😀❤
Didn’t know about this pod literally just rewatched the series again lol absolutely one of the better parts of my childhood/highschools. Great pod guys
On Clark having DNA: In various continuities Clark and Lois are able to have one or more kids, so it would have to be something very near human DNA.
I think john's message about how he saw something similiar in his relation with Clark and his real son and how he conveyed that into his acting was really beautiful.
He seems like such a nice person!
What a delightful podcast today, LOVED special guest John Schneider! Wow...I could listen to John talk all day, so much wisdom, such lovely comments, can't wait to see him as a special guest again. The Ashmore twins are awesome, I had to pinch myself (again...as I always do when an actor from my most favourite show EVER makes the effort to travel halfway across the world to little ol' Perth Western Australia) when I met Aaron at an Oz Comic con. So much fun, excited for Jimmy episodes in the future. Shawn was great in Leech especially showcasing what HE would do with Clark's powers, he looked great doing it, especially with a pumping soundtrack backing him up. Love and appreciate you guys doing this podcast and I love how you love saying our names at the end...love hearing it! (SO MUCH LOVE!! )
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Glad you enjoyed bud
This is such a great episode! I love the dynamic between Clark and his father. It was always such a highlight of the show. It was so lovely having John Schneider on this episode. He's the best Jonathan Kent I've seen. He embodied the fatherly love so well and his scenes with Clark were some of my favourites in the whole show. Always so touching.
It was so cute when Tom was like "hi dad!" Haha. It's clear you guys all get along really well. Can't wait to see him back again.
Ok this might be my fave episode (besides the pilot) because we finally get a “what if” clark was normal (for a majority of the episode) but at a cost. Those same powers that Clark has always been reluctant to have and made him feel alienated- have corrupted the other boy who happened to pick them up. It really shows it’s how you use the powers rather then having powers itself that shows how a hero and who isn’t.
And shoutout to Clark parents who are the true reason Clark despite having powers could grow up normal and still love him even if he lost them forever (unlike certain parents on the show cough cough)
I love how proud John is of the two of them, you can see it in his face, thank you guys for the podcast. Smallville was and still is a big part of my life, keep up the great work!
Aww Ryan, I am so glad you are also there!🙃 What a wonderful episode of Smallville, and what a great episode of Talk Ville, I loved this one, and it was so wonderful to see John Schneider, I can't wait to see him come back and talk some more. I loved hearing him talk about how characters in a scene should be continuing to act, telling their own story, regardless of what the main character is doing, it just makes everything so much more relatable and real. I loved the ideas around how parenting influences how a character reacts to the responsibility of having powers, and how Clark was having to deal with potentially being normal, it must have been really disorientating for him. I thought the conversation about Victoria was also really interesting, the bit with the photos was a bit weird and creepy. I wonder if that kind of female character would be written slightly differently if the show were being made today, like she would have been capable of trying to screw Lex over with more than just tits and ass, so she still would have slept with him, but maybe would have had a bit more imagination, instead of just sleeping with his dad... I know if I want to screw someone over, sleeping with their dad isn't usually on the top of my list 🤣. Loved Shawn Ashmore, it is great to hear you guys say what a great job he did, I think he is great in everything he does (definitely him) and I'm not sure he gets enough credit generally out there in the world. I really enjoyed this one, I'm with Ryan, 🌹🌹. Thank you Rosey, Tom, Ryan and John! ❤
Definitely will be back
Am I the only one who cried seeing Jonathan Kent again? The best dad to ever be on tv.
Love that Tom has 5 copies of season 6 and 2 copies of season 4 behind him on the shelf!
It's so crazy to me that ya'll want to do the sign off as "Always hold on to Smallville" because that is a quote that holds so much meaning and I never hear anyone saying it or referencing it. My brother and I watched the entire show together, and we really bonded over the show. We actually really like that quote, and we both got sibling tattoos and got that quote on our arms. So it's cool that you guys are referencing it.❤️
The way John spoke on his real son was so powerful ❤
John Schneider is the best. That was a terrific conversation and I think he was the perfect person to play Johnathan Kent. He seems to be as loving and positive and more as his character. Thank you Smallville from a big superhero fan who has all the DVDS bought when it was on and loving the rewatch!
Johns commentary was fantastic! Such a great guest
What a guest John Schneider was! Such a great guy and fantastic insight and observations about the show. Can't wait for him to be on again!
John Schneider is so great. I'm older so I still remember him in Dukes of Hazard, I was just old enough to be around when it first came out and it's one of those shows that sticks with you.
I loved John Schneider in Dr Quinn and he actually surprised me when he mentions his time on that series and Michaela because I have almost everything he is in and every episode even in Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, he always has Daniel Simon doing something. Im glad he stuck with 'Dr Quinning it'. Reminds me so much of my favorite uncle ... you rock John ... love from this Kiwi xx
Wow I don't remember seeing him in!
Funny fact that Jane Seymour was later in the show!
Absolutely phenomenal! You guys are really getting into a groove with Talkville. I've watched smallville since I was 5 years old, I'm now almost 24. Rewatching it yet again right now! Love you guys so much!
I've really liked watching Talkville and this episode of having John Schneider back was great and reminded me of how much I love "Pa Kent" so much!
Wow, I loved what John said when he compared his son to Clark Kent in regards to raising a special needs child. With both his son and the character of Clark, he saw a child "that needed to be nurtured and needed to take those abilities and turn them into something good". What an amazing perspective. Loving these episodes so much! Please bring John Shnidy back!! Looking forward to next Wednesday
This podcast just keeps getting better & better! Thanks so much for getting John Schneider to come on. He is a rarity in Hollywood, a man of true grit and character. Any actor would be blessed to have him as a mentor.