Tom deserves some appreciation for that scene with Martha. He really sold their mother/son relationship, which is a big part of humanizing the Superman character.
Dude I saw Sarah Carter in the thumbnail and could not get here fast enough... as a guy who watched this as a teenager ... she will always have a special place in my heart haha
Alicia/Sarah was in her underwear in this episode (with shirtless Clark), but a screen-shot of Alicia biting the cup, at the ice-skating rink, is still the sexiest shot in the whole show.
I was a kid at that time. I rembember that scenes used to get me excited years before understanding what excitement was 😂. Alicia was hot, not gonna lie
@@TalkVillePodcast Hello, quick question. I just bought tickets to the talk I’ll live in LA, and it says for special ticket holders you can get early access and see Smallville nights before the show. But there is only one option for tickets. Are they two separate tickets? Or does the one ticket admission allow us to see both?
Sarah Carter returning as Alicia and pushing Clark Kent's storyline further was just beautiful. Pariah seriously though was just touching and just seeing Clark Kent's emotional breakdown was just gut wrenching. Also Chloe's shock with Alicia showing Clark's secret was a nice change.
Michael we don’t care if the talkville podcasts are longer. Just talk about stuff and enjoy it. Let it flow. Let Tom talk. Enjoy your time. The series starts to get really good soon in my opinion don’t worry. Thanks and love the show!
Michael needs to stop singing and cutting people off when they talk. I enjoy his podcasts but those idiosyncrasies are low-key annoying watching and listening to it on a regular basis.
@@talon3684 agreed, he often cuts Ryan off and disallows him to say all that he has to say and I find it rude. I just hope Ryan is cool with it and the podcast continues to run smoothly
Agreed. I feel like Michael is always cutting people off. I want to hear what Tom has to say. I want to hear what ryan has to say. I want to hear what the guests have to say. This podcast could be an hour and a half long and we would all listen to it and eat it up. I feel like he is always rushing through it and he doesn't need to. Just let it flow. Look at Joe rogan's podcast...
@talon3684 what you need to remember is the podcast is sometimes heavily edited and a host's responsibility is to keep the conversation going instead of going off topic or on a tangent that doesn't match with the tone. Also these guys know Michael for years, I think they'd tell him if they were annoyed with his behaviour.
The Alicia arc is one of those stories that stays with you. Because of how many layers, the connection, and synergy between her and Clark That spark is there, whether or not Clark was on Red K. Someone who could relate to everything Clark was going through. Even though on two different paths. Somehow, something brought them together, even for a little while. Someone who knows you, pushes your buttons, makes you do things you normally would never do. But also find calm, and solace Sarah is an incredible actress, and I absolutely love her performance as Alicia. ❤️💕
So the crew thought that Sarah Carter was real life Kryptonite for Tom Welling so they had to keep them apart off set. lol, Love it! Sarah was and is still absolutely incredible!
They were so hot together haha but Tom was married and they have this incredible show being watched by teens. So they have to prevent that or anything that may cause to ruin the show.
Can we appreciate how perfect the choice of songs are in the scenes where they're ice skating and also at the end of the episode where Alicia is crying in Clarks arms in the barn. Smallville has one of the best soundtrack's I've ever heard in a TV show
Last song was by Jonathan Rice called “break so easy”. I have had it on every device since this episode came out! 🤝🏽 hit a cord with me in my youth and now it brings me back to those nostalgic feelings. I also used it on my last mural. Check it out sometime! @damonsmythart
I'm still in love of Alicia / Sarah! Great Character and Actress and is just adorable even when evil! You guys really do not know how much we were caring about Alicia in the series, definitely a great love story and a character we true fans always remember 🥰
Sarah Carter. Hell Yes. Still a knockout and definitely one of the most memorable guest characters on the show. Cried my eyes out when her character died. Alicia was a real one.
"It was undeniable the chemistry you guys had, undeniable. In fact, so undeniable, that I was jealous" Seriously, their romance felt so authentic and innocent. It made you really buy into their relationship. I really wish they had her on as a regular. There was so much potential.
Yup, such a shame they cut the Alicia storyline so soon. I know Lois had to be introduced soon but they could have had her for at least the rest of S4.
@@Davon85J I think the chemistry was too good to keep her on the show, it would have spoiled any future relationships with lana and lois if they kept it up for longer.
Unsafe and Pariah were both amazing episodes for many reasons, but it's understandable why that story arc with Alicia didn't lasted longer. She was from the beginning seen as " meteor freak" who tried to kill Lana...and by the time she came back "cured" no one believed her, of course. No one but Clark. But I like how her character got kind of, heroic exit from the show. Chemistry between Tom and Sarah was really great. And I like how Tom always speaks highly about Annette. By the way, someone really, really loved Dido' s music.🙂
@@jdzspace33 She actually saved Clark from the bullet in this episode. That's heroic, i think. She loved him. And her last is "Pariah" where she was accused for something she didn't do.There's nothing heroic about that😀, but Clark was devastated after she died. She was the only one, at the time, who could understand him.
@misoboskovic we were all devastated when she died. She was the one character who disrupted the fuedal state of shipper culture back in the day. She was the one character everyone had to admit had something with Clark the others didn't
Michael seemed to completely miss the point about having her or other meteor freaks on longer arcs. He hates the idea because he wants less meteor freaks. That's the whole point! If you make them deeper characters with actual story arcs they aren't just freaks of the week anymore! This was one of the most effective arcs of a character who wasn't a recurring guest for the season. Kudos to them for exploring what does it actually mean to seek redemption after burning through so many characters in a more formulaic and disposable way.
That Alison Mack fact where she urged teens to practice safe sex is so morbidly ironic it's hilarious but in a very dark way. Ryan's reaction was also funny.
I very much appreciated the dark humor of it on rewatch. I had forgotten it was on THIS episode. The guys basically didn't talk at all about that storyline, which was admittedly very afterschool special. I don't know what I expected I guess I just figured they might make SOME direct acknowledgement that the PSA at the end was ridiculous for multiple reasons instead of sort of grimacing until the conversation moved on.
It's great. You can tell he's having a lot of fun goofing with Welling and Carter, mostly because he sees the same reactions we do in them: tittering embarrassment and horny curiosity in tandem. There's still chemistry there, which is...cool.
The Alicia/Clark dynamic is one of the most emotionally visceral and beautifully sad on the show, which is why its absolutely one of my favorite blocks of narrative.
Sarah Carter was my celeb crush for a while after seeing her as Alicia. Not only is she so attractive, but she's also an incredibly convincing actress that I felt like she and Tom actually had feelings for each other. That's just good acting. Also, 20ish years later and she is still just plain gorgeous and her smile is infectious. I wish we would see more from her. ❤
I know people who have revolvers and they wouldn’t die on this hill. It is technically correct to say pistol. Saying clip instead of magazine, on the other hand, is actually incorrect in most cases
I am so glad that y’all got Sara on the podcast. Her character was dark yet delightful. The scenes between Lex and his father especially towards the end of the episode was so powerful. Tom and Alicia had great on screen chemistry. Impressive fencing skills Michael. I loved Clark Hans Solo moment when he says I know to her I love you. Annette gives a great disappointment look. That was one powerful scene. Also Chole saying she slept with a bow tie wearing Jimmy refers to Jimmy Olson from the comics. Jensen did a great job. Great performances by all. Y’all rock.
I felt something when Sarah said "There was a boundary held. I was young. We were young at that time. It was the first role that I was managing that kind of chemistry and we were cultivating that love, that energy, that kind of sexual chemistry. And I was "doing my job" - my enphasis on her quotation marks - and I remember sombody saying keep it on set [...] and I've always being curious about it [...] WAW, I'm dangerous!!"
Can I just say that cutting to Tom giving that little head shake as Ryan describes him turning down an invitation to a hot tub party, is the most perfect reaction this show could ever produce 🤣🤣
I've watched a couple of these so far and one thing I have noticed is how incredibly genuine, thoughtful and intelligent the cast from Smallville have grown up to be. It's very validating to know the people who played your favourite characters are even better in real life. It almost feels like a happily ever after.
I actually watched this episode again yesterday. Always loved Alicia's character, who certainly showed a change from season 3. Was so fun and sweet seeing her and Clark together happy, such as at the ice rink. I believe she certainly redeemed herself when she took the bullet for Clark to protect his secret from Dr. Mcbride. Sarah Carter is always such a lovely, beautiful actress and person. So happy you got to have her on this week.😀🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
I don't think anyone was complaining about the makeout Vegas scene - I didn't. Both Tom and Sarah were 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I loved Alicia!! This really should have been several episodes if not half the season. 😢❤
How cool you got Sarah Carter! I love her dynamic with Clark, even though it gets twisted, there was a sweetness and innocence there that still made you care for her character and their relationship. And I was truly sad to see her fate, and the way it turned out for her. I think this and the next one are some of my favorite of season 4.
I don’t get how Michael dislikes this episode so much. I love all the Alisha episodes. She and Clark have suck good chemistry and the couple of episodes move a lot of plot for the show. I get why they couldn’t be together because if Superman lore, but I wish she had stuck around longer
Just startted watching these in March. I finally caught up to the current episode. I loved Sarah in everything she did. Her character was so impactful on Clark, both emotionally and situationally. She was someone Clark could share with. Her death hurt him. So much so that he was brought to the edge of killing someone. Good use of Lois to talk him down. She got to see Clark in pain and as man of power. The Clark reveal to Chloe was one of my favorites ever.
This episode was a perfect showcase of why Sarah Carter was one of the most popular guest stars ever on Smallville. She throws herself at everything and displays such a wide range of emotions. She makes Alicia cute, funny, sexy, vulnerable, tormented and menacing depending on what scene she's in with the greatest of ease. You can see why she was brought back. The fans loved her. Thank you for having her on the podcast! P.S. Tom's scene with Annette at the end of the episode is their second best ever (after Vengeance). So raw and emotional! P.P.S. First Jimmy Olsen reference on Smallville.
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Trust me, there's going to be A LOT of ranting at the comments section next week. It's not just her fate, it's the way it all happened and how inconsiderate EVERYONE apart from Chloe was after.
This podcast makes me happy. This is really what we all wanted. To see A reality where Clark and Lex remained best friends forever. Watching their relationship fall apart on the show was really sad. It's cool to see them as brothers now.
Yay Sarah Carter!!! Great actress; she knew how to bring the psycho and the sexy but most importantly, she made our dear Clark happy -- if only for a little while. Loving the podcast -- thank you guys for doing this for the fandom!!! You all rock!!! 🔥💛💙❤️💋💯
Yay! Sarah Carter! Grateful that you guys were able to get Sarah on the podcast because Alicia Baker is a special character! GREAT to hear so much about the ice skating rink scenes! "UNSAFE" is a very distinct episode, and even though you guys didn't get into all the different scenes, Tom is incredible as Clark throughout! Congratulations To Charu!
This truly is an amazing Podcast. The greatest thing to ever happen to the Superman universe was Smallville. It is so cool to relive these episodes from the actor’s perspectives. Bravo Michael & Tom !
Clark running into Alicia in like season 8 just long enough to find out she got her shit together would have been something different that you just don't see often
Iirc she dies in the next episode Pariah, not before facilitating one of the big consequential moments of the shows - showing Chloe Clark's secret and her choosing to not confront him until at least a season later
I appreciated this episode for showing like, yes, she probably HAS been cured to some degree of her sociopathy and isn't a threat to society anymore. Can't believe Michael equated being released from mental health treatment to a murderer getting early release from prison, okay Mr mental health podcast guy! But recovery is a journey not a checkbox. She is clearly still not in a stable place, hence mucho drama this episode. But it's her doctor's possessive relationship with her stunting her rehabilitation - to be honest, a wrench in the episode that really kept it from its potential of genuinely exploring mental health. She played that line of somewhat but not totally mentally well, really well!
Then the next episode takes it a step further to genuinely no "abnormal" behavior. Just one HUGE decision borne out of the natural frustration of a young person who feels unfairly treated.
Oh man yes! So glad you guys managed to get Sarah Carter! For me she was hands down the best guest star the series ever had, and there were some very strong guest stars. Been hype for this ever since I got the patreon notice last Friday! You guys rock!
I just find it weird to have her on for this episode instead of the next one, and not talk to her directly about being killed off. Even for just a 3 episode arc, after all the chemistry and connection they had, she must have an opinion on that creative decision for her character.
I've been waiting a long time for you to invite Sarah! Thank you, Michael, for the great work! All Smallville fans can enjoy chatting with their favorite characters! Find out the answers to many questions, the opinion of the actors themselves! I think only Smallville fans have this opportunity.
Omg my favorite crush from Smallville in addition to Lois like wow she is just exquisitely beautiful on a whole other level! The hair flipped over during the podcast 😮 🔥🥰😍🤩 wish I could meet her in real life! She was definitely a favorite from the show for me
This is my most-anticipated episode to watch. Sarah Carter is an amazing actress and I would have loved to have her back for more episodes. Alicia and Clark should have been the main relationship on chemistry alone. I wish she had gotten a larger role in Final Destination 2.
Great episode, so good to have Sarah on the podcast and hear her take on acting with Tom. This is one of my favourite episodes, I loved that Clark got to be free and enjoy himself for a change. He has so much loss e.g., skinwalker girl and has no one to share his real self with especialy since Pete left, it was good to see him having fun and they were so cute together. Alicia was adorable and they has great chemistry. It would've been great if Alicia had been on for more episodes, Clark deserved to have a happy relationship for a little while especially with someone who knew his secret and he could be himself with.
This episode hit so close to home I can't even believe how emotional it made me while watching it and even some things brought up with Sarah and Toms conversation here about how damaging certain love can be for young hearts just really punched me in the heart. Such amazing writing and acting for sure🤟
🌹🌹🌹YAY Sarah Carter as guest 🤗🤗🤗 her portrayal of Alicia was PERFECTION 👏👏👏 loved how on-point the guys are today: Michael very engaged and catching so much, and yes Tom great note about juxtaposition of the 2 (almost) sex scenes (the writers were on fire for this ep!) sidenote: love how Tom is simultaneously enjoying and embarrassed by Michael's comments (and voices smh lol) 😂 so cute! their banter and relationship is such a treat! the BTS was so so good today! how great that WB appreciated her presence! beautiful notes about Alicia's character nuances, and the incredible chemistry w Clark and the intimacy of feeling comfortable w each other and feeling accepted, and "young love". omg they told her to "keep it on set" ! well I guess that answers the question if the character chemistry spilled over into real life and the how the professional chemistry between actors can translate (sometimes transforming) into attraction. really great guest questions today from Michael and loved the energy between Sarah and Tom and Michael. Points to Michael! I think he is finally accepting Smallville for as it is and not for what he wishes it to be and maybe that's why I feel he's moving away from that negativity he was really down in for a while. (hopefully didn't speak too soon) but it really makes the podcast more enjoyable when he's on board. so cool the video call w a fan! thank you for bringing it up about Alicia's knowing of Red K, I've been trying to figure that out since my first watch lol... really appreciated their conversation and discussing the plot and story arcs. To answer Michael's question about why come back for more despite moments that weren't great: those moments were so few and far between. the series is so well done on so many different levels despite the limitations of the time and budget and all the road blocks along the way. it's just an impressive show. the first few seasons were so cinematic! and the last few seasons were so fan-satisfying...I've been a Superman fan since I was 5yrs old crying that the movie was over lol. and of course All Hail to Christopher Reeve and Gene Hackman, but Michael's performance of Lex was so good and without apology I'll say that Tom's performance was the BEST Clark Kent. Ever. wow they rated lower than I was expecting! lol...I originally gave it 2 roses and then bumped it up to 3 after dissecting all the elements, so interesting that they bumped it up but this is def an ep I would show someone who had never seen the show (although I think we're moving away from that metric cuz now the show has progressed to the point that you really would have to start earlier lol) 🌹🌹🌹Really glad for this podcast and you guys make it feel like we're part of the conversation with you ❤️
Well said! I had to give it 🌹🌹🌹 roses too! I think their scale is more on the storyline when it should be moments. And there were just way too many good moments to make this an epic episode!
Still can't believe this podcast is a thing. Every couple years I find myself rewatching Smallville. Even though I was a toddler when the show was running, it was super influential. Also, this channel is growing to be HUGE
Absolute, total AWARD WINNING EPISODE! This one is an absolute keeper! After I saw this episode I immediately started looking her up. She has an absolutely wonderful singing voice. Someone tell me Tom wasn't in love with her from the get go, lol 😊
That’s super cool that you guys are bringing patreons onto the show. I’m really enjoying watching your reactions to the episodes and also reminiscing over a show I loved so much when it aired. I totally binged and watch all 10 seasons after watching the first episode of talkville 🤣. Thanks so much for showing up every week 💕 Hope you all have a fabulous Easter long weekend!
They were right! The way that Sarah nibbles a cup or bites her lip is so dreamy! Sarah Carter was amazing in the role and the impression she made was unforgettable. Clark got to be HIMSELF with Alicia, which you didn't get until Lois at the tail end of the series. The fact that people wanted her to remain is testament to the writing and delivery of Sarah's performance. The fact that we wanted her, added to the tragedy. Alicia also played an important tool in the development of the Clark and Chloe's relationship.
Fav episode, clarks talk with Martha and the single tear, perfect scene and when I think Tom proved he could act after having to be "protected" in early seasons because he was new , that scene made me think wow xx
Great episode and it was lovely to see Sarah on the podcast and she definitely portrays the dreamy persona that her character Alicia had on the show. Thanks once again for giving us such an enjoyable and at times hilarious chat🤩
Then Unsafe happened and I WANTED ALICIA BAKER IN THE SHOW SO HARD. They chemistry was unbelievable. It was a nuclear-like chemistry. Heat, destruction, creation all at once. I'm from Brazil and I felt it from here, in a total other continent. I know that Tom was merried before with Jamie and I knew that at that time but despite that I whished so much that Tom and Sarah even came along romantically speaking out of the set. Those strange things that fans cheers for, you know hahahahahaha
@Talk Ville Podcast To all still wondering, in Alicia Baker's first episode, Obsession, she teleported back to the Kent home after being caught in Clark's bedroom. It was there that she learned from overhearing Jonathan Kent that Clark "gets sick" around meteor rocks. It's true that this only explains green kryptonite and not the red from the class ring, but we're at least getting closer to logical storytelling now. Alicia also "decorated" Clark's loft and school locker in that same episode. Point is, this girl teleports, stalks, spies and learns things. Clark, being so introspective, also seems like the type to journal about these things however irresponsible that might be. Also, could she have learned from other inmates during her time at Belle Reve perhaps?
The chemistry was so good between Alicia & Clark and the first time I felt bad for a former villain when she met her final destiny in a later episode. I cried when Clark did😢
How the heck is she even more adorable than when she was on smallville. She’s stunning but appears to be a very delightful healthy and happy human being with a bright beautiful infectious smile 🥰 her voice hasn’t changed that much either. I REALLY like her. It would be awesome to see her on here more.
I love how Michael was pushing and hoping for the Patron to say how much the love triangle was the worst part of the series lol. I felt like that’s what he was fishing for 😂
Tom..you and Annette were absolutely amazing in that scene. I was in tears. And thank you for sharing that you were right there with us as the viewers. So much amazing gravitas!
OMG, she's so adorable. Loved her character Alicia; so glad they brought her back, she was made for the role, so glad she finally got to come up the show, and she is right about one of the reason why the show was successful was because of the super aspect of it - it wasn't the only thing but it was part of it, and I have rewatched Smallville many times, in fact I just did a season 8 re-watch and I love it, the effects are great and hold up . I remember watching her first appearance in Smallville as the good girl, so we thought, but it turned out she was abusive to her parents. Loved the fact she sneaked into Clark's room and became obsessive, then tried to kill Lana. Funny thing, the doctor shoots her when trying to kill Clark, then rushes over to see if she's okay, and then gets shoved thirty feet into the air by Clark; love that scene. I agree, her biting the cup was so hot-so hot! Her chemistry with Clark was kinetic; finally, Clark had someone who he could be around and not hide who he really is and same for her. No wonder Clark lost it when she was taken from him. I love Martha's reaction to finding out Clark ran out and got married - love her reaction she is an incredible actress.
I think I represent everyone when I say Sarah's portrayal of Alicia as a guest star for only 3 episodes on Smallville was the most deep and impactful. Yes Alicia's storyline helped but the chemistry between her and Tom on screen was out of this world!!
This was a REALLY good episode and podcast! I loved the storyline between Clark and Alicia! I really enjoyed the interview with Sarah, it was interesting to hear her thoughts on the show and how Tom and her connected as actors. You can see how professional they were and yet how easy it was for everyone to become friends. 🙂
SARAH CARTER IS STILL SMOKIN
GOOD LORD SHE IS FIRE 🔥🔥
When I saw her later in other things, I called her always Teleporter Girl!
Agreed
Agree 😊
Tom deserves some appreciation for that scene with Martha. He really sold their mother/son relationship, which is a big part of humanizing the Superman character.
Dude I saw Sarah Carter in the thumbnail and could not get here fast enough... as a guy who watched this as a teenager ... she will always have a special place in my heart haha
Same here
She was my favorite Clark relationship even though she was only in 2 episodes lol
Yeah I wish they fleshed out the relationship and character a bit more.
Yea she was smoking hot.
@@ashleyryan1- more fleshed - yes
Alicia/Sarah was in her underwear in this episode (with shirtless Clark), but a screen-shot of Alicia biting the cup, at the ice-skating rink, is still the sexiest shot in the whole show.
Very in depth there 😂😂 nevertheless she was an incredible addition to the show!
I was a kid at that time. I rembember that scenes used to get me excited years before understanding what excitement was 😂. Alicia was hot, not gonna lie
So amazing how all the cast aged so well and they're still all happy n healthy in the big 2024. This is a beautiful time in life man
amen
@@TalkVillePodcast Hello, quick question. I just bought tickets to the talk I’ll live in LA, and it says for special ticket holders you can get early access and see Smallville nights before the show. But there is only one option for tickets. Are they two separate tickets? Or does the one ticket admission allow us to see both?
Sarah Carter returning as Alicia and pushing Clark Kent's storyline further was just beautiful. Pariah seriously though was just touching and just seeing Clark Kent's emotional breakdown was just gut wrenching. Also Chloe's shock with Alicia showing Clark's secret was a nice change.
True and you’re right about that. But I wish Sarah was the show more.
Very much agreed! These are a couple of my favorite episodes!
I can't wait for when they talk about that episode!
@@RemyArbec that's my favorite one.
@@Brook11223 It's definitely in my top 5. The performance of Tom when he found Alicia dead always brings me to tears.
Michael we don’t care if the talkville podcasts are longer. Just talk about stuff and enjoy it. Let it flow. Let Tom talk. Enjoy your time. The series starts to get really good soon in my opinion don’t worry. Thanks and love the show!
Michael needs to stop singing and cutting people off when they talk. I enjoy his podcasts but those idiosyncrasies are low-key annoying watching and listening to it on a regular basis.
@@talon3684 agreed, he often cuts Ryan off and disallows him to say all that he has to say and I find it rude. I just hope Ryan is cool with it and the podcast continues to run smoothly
Agreed. I feel like Michael is always cutting people off. I want to hear what Tom has to say. I want to hear what ryan has to say. I want to hear what the guests have to say. This podcast could be an hour and a half long and we would all listen to it and eat it up. I feel like he is always rushing through it and he doesn't need to. Just let it flow. Look at Joe rogan's podcast...
heavy on let tom talk
@talon3684 what you need to remember is the podcast is sometimes heavily edited and a host's responsibility is to keep the conversation going instead of going off topic or on a tangent that doesn't match with the tone. Also these guys know Michael for years, I think they'd tell him if they were annoyed with his behaviour.
Michael and the bite in the Cup..... hilarious lol
The dude cracks me up so much 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Clark
imagine him bitting his cup... but bald
Good thing Lex didn't have any contact with Alícia. 😂😂😂😂😂
You should totally have Sarah on the Inside of You podcast. She seems like she would make a great guest.
cool idea
@@TalkVillePodcastHopefully she returns.
That would be fantastic :)
The Alicia arc is one of those stories that stays with you. Because of how many layers, the connection, and synergy between her and Clark
That spark is there, whether or not Clark was on Red K.
Someone who could relate to everything Clark was going through. Even though on two different paths. Somehow, something brought them together, even for a little while.
Someone who knows you, pushes your buttons, makes you do things you normally would never do. But also find calm, and solace
Sarah is an incredible actress, and I absolutely love her performance as Alicia. ❤️💕
Totally agree!
Well said
So the crew thought that Sarah Carter was real life Kryptonite for Tom Welling so they had to keep them apart off set. lol, Love it! Sarah was and is still absolutely incredible!
They were so hot together haha but Tom was married and they have this incredible show being watched by teens. So they have to prevent that or anything that may cause to ruin the show.
Can we appreciate how perfect the choice of songs are in the scenes where they're ice skating and also at the end of the episode where Alicia is crying in Clarks arms in the barn. Smallville has one of the best soundtrack's I've ever heard in a TV show
Last song was by Jonathan Rice called “break so easy”. I have had it on every device since this episode came out! 🤝🏽 hit a cord with me in my youth and now it brings me back to those nostalgic feelings. I also used it on my last mural. Check it out sometime! @damonsmythart
BIG FACTS
Someone should compare Michael's ratings to his screen time per episode lmao
I'm still in love of Alicia / Sarah! Great Character and Actress and is just adorable even when evil! You guys really do not know how much we were caring about Alicia in the series, definitely a great love story and a character we true fans always remember 🥰
Sarah Carter. Hell Yes. Still a knockout and definitely one of the most memorable guest characters on the show. Cried my eyes out when her character died. Alicia was a real one.
"It was undeniable the chemistry you guys had, undeniable. In fact, so undeniable, that I was jealous"
Seriously, their romance felt so authentic and innocent. It made you really buy into their relationship. I really wish they had her on as a regular. There was so much potential.
Yup, such a shame they cut the Alicia storyline so soon. I know Lois had to be introduced soon but they could have had her for at least the rest of S4.
@@Davon85J I think the chemistry was too good to keep her on the show, it would have spoiled any future relationships with lana and lois if they kept it up for longer.
@alanmckeon8321 they really should have just made her Lois Lane. She was so undeniably perfect for Lois.
Unsafe and Pariah were both amazing episodes for many reasons, but it's understandable why that story arc with Alicia didn't lasted longer. She was from the beginning seen as " meteor freak" who tried to kill Lana...and by the time she came back "cured" no one believed her, of course. No one but Clark. But I like how her character got kind of, heroic exit from the show. Chemistry between Tom and Sarah was really great. And I like how Tom always speaks highly about Annette. By the way, someone really, really loved Dido' s music.🙂
I don't think that was her exit from the show. I think she's in one more episode and... she doesn't go out like a hero
@@jdzspace33 She actually saved Clark from the bullet in this episode. That's heroic, i think. She loved him. And her last is "Pariah" where she was accused for something she didn't do.There's nothing heroic about that😀, but Clark was devastated after she died. She was the only one, at the time, who could understand him.
@misoboskovic we were all devastated when she died. She was the one character who disrupted the fuedal state of shipper culture back in the day.
She was the one character everyone had to admit had something with Clark the others didn't
looking forward to next episode. big one
Michael seemed to completely miss the point about having her or other meteor freaks on longer arcs. He hates the idea because he wants less meteor freaks. That's the whole point! If you make them deeper characters with actual story arcs they aren't just freaks of the week anymore! This was one of the most effective arcs of a character who wasn't a recurring guest for the season. Kudos to them for exploring what does it actually mean to seek redemption after burning through so many characters in a more formulaic and disposable way.
That Alison Mack fact where she urged teens to practice safe sex is so morbidly ironic it's hilarious but in a very dark way. Ryan's reaction was also funny.
I forgot about that. I was wondering about their reaction. Lol.
I very much appreciated the dark humor of it on rewatch. I had forgotten it was on THIS episode. The guys basically didn't talk at all about that storyline, which was admittedly very afterschool special. I don't know what I expected I guess I just figured they might make SOME direct acknowledgement that the PSA at the end was ridiculous for multiple reasons instead of sort of grimacing until the conversation moved on.
Haahahahahahaa she makes some remarks throughout the show and it made me realize how ironic her role was ahahahaha
First episode where we see Clark cry 😢 very significant for the character. It shows that he's just as human as everyone else.
Sarah Carter is my absolute favourite Smallville guest star. ❤
Absolutely.
It’s hilarious how Michael keeps bringing up the romance between Tom and Sarah’s characters. Lol
It's great. You can tell he's having a lot of fun goofing with Welling and Carter, mostly because he sees the same reactions we do in them: tittering embarrassment and horny curiosity in tandem. There's still chemistry there, which is...cool.
The Alicia/Clark dynamic is one of the most emotionally visceral and beautifully sad on the show, which is why its absolutely one of my favorite blocks of narrative.
Sarah Carter was my celeb crush for a while after seeing her as Alicia. Not only is she so attractive, but she's also an incredibly convincing actress that I felt like she and Tom actually had feelings for each other. That's just good acting. Also, 20ish years later and she is still just plain gorgeous and her smile is infectious. I wish we would see more from her. ❤
She was my girl crush!!
Her smile had me seeing stars 🤩
I think they did have feelings tbh
Sarah Clark. Totally Hot and sexy. Where she was bitting the cup and her smile.wow
I agree. Tom and Sarah had excellent chemistry. The episodes with Sarah in them were some of my favorites.
Tom: “its a revolver”
Everyone else: 🙄
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A revolver is still a pistol. So Tom was just wrong. Not sure where he heard that
@@KBWrecker Someone who handles firearms would call a revolver "a revolver"
if you know why they do this you should understand what Tom is saying.
I know people who have revolvers and they wouldn’t die on this hill. It is technically correct to say pistol. Saying clip instead of magazine, on the other hand, is actually incorrect in most cases
Her character(that did not become a regular) had the most impact on Clark than anyone else
I am so glad that y’all got Sara on the podcast. Her character was dark yet delightful. The scenes between Lex and his father especially towards the end of the episode was so powerful. Tom and Alicia had great on screen chemistry. Impressive fencing skills Michael. I loved Clark Hans Solo moment when he says I know to her I love you. Annette gives a great disappointment look. That was one powerful scene. Also Chole saying she slept with a bow tie wearing Jimmy refers to Jimmy Olson from the comics. Jensen did a great job. Great performances by all. Y’all rock.
this ep was on fire 🔥 fantastic performances, writing was tight, whole range of emotions. just so well done
Hands down my favorite guest on the show. Beautiful, and great chemistry with the cast. Wish she was a regular
I felt something when Sarah said "There was a boundary held. I was young. We were young at that time. It was the first role that I was managing that kind of chemistry and we were cultivating that love, that energy, that kind of sexual chemistry. And I was "doing my job" - my enphasis on her quotation marks - and I remember sombody saying keep it on set [...] and I've always being curious about it [...] WAW, I'm dangerous!!"
Can I just say that cutting to Tom giving that little head shake as Ryan describes him turning down an invitation to a hot tub party, is the most perfect reaction this show could ever produce 🤣🤣
It's one of my favorite episodes... I love the interaction in the ice skating and hot coco scene... Sarah Carter was a fan favorite!
I've watched a couple of these so far and one thing I have noticed is how incredibly genuine, thoughtful and intelligent the cast from Smallville have grown up to be. It's very validating to know the people who played your favourite characters are even better in real life. It almost feels like a happily ever after.
Sarah Carter as Alicia was one of the most memorable characters from Smallville for me. So glad you had her on! 😊
I actually watched this episode again yesterday. Always loved Alicia's character, who certainly showed a change from season 3. Was so fun and sweet seeing her and Clark together happy, such as at the ice rink. I believe she certainly redeemed herself when she took the bullet for Clark to protect his secret from Dr. Mcbride. Sarah Carter is always such a lovely, beautiful actress and person. So happy you got to have her on this week.😀🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
I don't think anyone was complaining about the makeout Vegas scene - I didn't. Both Tom and Sarah were 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved Alicia!! This really should have been several episodes if not half the season. 😢❤
How cool you got Sarah Carter! I love her dynamic with Clark, even though it gets twisted, there was a sweetness and innocence there that still made you care for her character and their relationship. And I was truly sad to see her fate, and the way it turned out for her. I think this and the next one are some of my favorite of season 4.
I don’t get how Michael dislikes this episode so much. I love all the Alisha episodes. She and Clark have suck good chemistry and the couple of episodes move a lot of plot for the show. I get why they couldn’t be together because if Superman lore, but I wish she had stuck around longer
One of my favorite two parters of the whole show. And Ive loved Sarah Carter ever since Smallville. Glad to see you got her on the show!
Just startted watching these in March. I finally caught up to the current episode. I loved Sarah in everything she did. Her character was so impactful on Clark, both emotionally and situationally. She was someone Clark could share with. Her death hurt him. So much so that he was brought to the edge of killing someone. Good use of Lois to talk him down. She got to see Clark in pain and as man of power. The Clark reveal to Chloe was one of my favorites ever.
Micheal biting that cup was way too good 😂😂😂
“If you noticed we are wearing different clothes….. you’re smart.” Made me lol.
This episode was a perfect showcase of why Sarah Carter was one of the most popular guest stars ever on Smallville. She throws herself at everything and displays such a wide range of emotions. She makes Alicia cute, funny, sexy, vulnerable, tormented and menacing depending on what scene she's in with the greatest of ease. You can see why she was brought back. The fans loved her.
Thank you for having her on the podcast!
P.S. Tom's scene with Annette at the end of the episode is their second best ever (after Vengeance). So raw and emotional!
P.P.S. First Jimmy Olsen reference on Smallville.
They did Alicia dirty.
@@DarthDread-oh2neYeah the next ep was like 😢
I wrote A better ending for Alicia.
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Trust me, there's going to be A LOT of ranting at the comments section next week. It's not just her fate, it's the way it all happened and how inconsiderate EVERYONE apart from Chloe was after.
That’s because Chloe was their baby, they sidelined two characters from the comics and undermined two great characters for her.
Best scene was Clark and Alicia ice-skating. Both so happy and care-free.
Sarah has not aged a day omg such a great guest actor for these episodes and allowed Clark to open up the most.
She's the same age as my friend's older brother but her character was a couple years younger then us.
hahahahaha "Anettes performance was realy good in that scene" and Tom being like "YEEE SHE WAS GREAT THANKS RYAN!" :'D
I will never forgive them for what they did to Alicia. 😢
Also, fun fact: Sarah was on The Flash as the villain in one season.
I remember that 🤘
Toms reaction to "pound town" 😂
The chemistry between Tom and Sarah in their episodes together was undeniable. Had the internet been what it is now, it would have been insane.
This podcast makes me happy. This is really what we all wanted. To see A reality where Clark and Lex remained best friends forever. Watching their relationship fall apart on the show was really sad. It's cool to see them as brothers now.
Yay Sarah Carter!!! Great actress; she knew how to bring the psycho and the sexy but most importantly, she made our dear Clark happy -- if only for a little while.
Loving the podcast -- thank you guys for doing this for the fandom!!! You all rock!!!
🔥💛💙❤️💋💯
This brings me so much joy. So glad yall got Sarah on the show ❤
Yay! Sarah Carter! Grateful that you guys were able to get Sarah on the podcast because Alicia Baker is a special character! GREAT to hear so much about the ice skating rink scenes! "UNSAFE" is a very distinct episode, and even though you guys didn't get into all the different scenes, Tom is incredible as Clark throughout!
Congratulations To Charu!
This truly is an amazing Podcast. The greatest thing to ever happen to the Superman universe was Smallville. It is so cool to relive these episodes from the actor’s perspectives.
Bravo Michael & Tom !
Clark running into Alicia in like season 8 just long enough to find out she got her shit together would have been something different that you just don't see often
Alicia was dead already
Iirc she dies in the next episode Pariah, not before facilitating one of the big consequential moments of the shows - showing Chloe Clark's secret and her choosing to not confront him until at least a season later
I appreciated this episode for showing like, yes, she probably HAS been cured to some degree of her sociopathy and isn't a threat to society anymore. Can't believe Michael equated being released from mental health treatment to a murderer getting early release from prison, okay Mr mental health podcast guy! But recovery is a journey not a checkbox. She is clearly still not in a stable place, hence mucho drama this episode. But it's her doctor's possessive relationship with her stunting her rehabilitation - to be honest, a wrench in the episode that really kept it from its potential of genuinely exploring mental health. She played that line of somewhat but not totally mentally well, really well!
Then the next episode takes it a step further to genuinely no "abnormal" behavior. Just one HUGE decision borne out of the natural frustration of a young person who feels unfairly treated.
"I just can't believe that you're like me. I mean, not exactly like me, but just...like me. You know?" - Alicia Baker to Clark Kent
that's it
Oh man yes! So glad you guys managed to get Sarah Carter! For me she was hands down the best guest star the series ever had, and there were some very strong guest stars. Been hype for this ever since I got the patreon notice last Friday! You guys rock!
I just find it weird to have her on for this episode instead of the next one, and not talk to her directly about being killed off. Even for just a 3 episode arc, after all the chemistry and connection they had, she must have an opinion on that creative decision for her character.
Toms look of confusion with the facetime balloons at the end was priceless 😂😂😂 1:05:18
What she did was so icky because she essentially roofied him with the red kryptonite
This is why I among other reasons couldn’t stand Alicia or the ep.
There was definite avoidance of this aspect of the writing for the character.
I've been waiting a long time for you to invite Sarah! Thank you, Michael, for the great work! All Smallville fans can enjoy chatting with their favorite characters! Find out the answers to many questions, the opinion of the actors themselves! I think only Smallville fans have this opportunity.
Omg my favorite crush from Smallville in addition to Lois like wow she is just exquisitely beautiful on a whole other level! The hair flipped over during the podcast 😮 🔥🥰😍🤩 wish I could meet her in real life! She was definitely a favorite from the show for me
I hope she returns next week because it's going to be an emotional episode.
This is my most-anticipated episode to watch. Sarah Carter is an amazing actress and I would have loved to have her back for more episodes. Alicia and Clark should have been the main relationship on chemistry alone. I wish she had gotten a larger role in Final Destination 2.
Yeah if only she had been the Lana replacement the show would have been insanely better.
"smallville has become largevill" HAHHAHA how did they stay serious during this line? Rosenbaum the best
Great episode, so good to have Sarah on the podcast and hear her take on acting with Tom. This is one of my favourite episodes, I loved that Clark got to be free and enjoy himself for a change. He has so much loss e.g., skinwalker girl and has no one to share his real self with especialy since Pete left, it was good to see him having fun and they were so cute together. Alicia was adorable and they has great chemistry. It would've been great if Alicia had been on for more episodes, Clark deserved to have a happy relationship for a little while especially with someone who knew his secret and he could be himself with.
This episode hit so close to home I can't even believe how emotional it made me while watching it and even some things brought up with Sarah and Toms conversation here about how damaging certain love can be for young hearts just really punched me in the heart. Such amazing writing and acting for sure🤟
No way should Clark's parents have been upset when Clark was on red K. That's like being pissed off at your kids actions when they were roofied.
🌹🌹🌹YAY Sarah Carter as guest 🤗🤗🤗 her portrayal of Alicia was PERFECTION 👏👏👏
loved how on-point the guys are today: Michael very engaged and catching so much, and yes Tom great note about juxtaposition of the 2 (almost) sex scenes (the writers were on fire for this ep!)
sidenote: love how Tom is simultaneously enjoying and embarrassed by Michael's comments (and voices smh lol) 😂 so cute! their banter and relationship is such a treat!
the BTS was so so good today! how great that WB appreciated her presence! beautiful notes about Alicia's character nuances, and the incredible chemistry w Clark and the intimacy of feeling comfortable w each other and feeling accepted, and "young love".
omg they told her to "keep it on set" ! well I guess that answers the question if the character chemistry spilled over into real life and the how the professional chemistry between actors can translate (sometimes transforming) into attraction.
really great guest questions today from Michael and loved the energy between Sarah and Tom and Michael.
Points to Michael! I think he is finally accepting Smallville for as it is and not for what he wishes it to be and maybe that's why I feel he's moving away from that negativity he was really down in for a while. (hopefully didn't speak too soon) but it really makes the podcast more enjoyable when he's on board.
so cool the video call w a fan! thank you for bringing it up about Alicia's knowing of Red K, I've been trying to figure that out since my first watch lol... really appreciated their conversation and discussing the plot and story arcs.
To answer Michael's question about why come back for more despite moments that weren't great: those moments were so few and far between. the series is so well done on so many different levels despite the limitations of the time and budget and all the road blocks along the way. it's just an impressive show. the first few seasons were so cinematic! and the last few seasons were so fan-satisfying...I've been a Superman fan since I was 5yrs old crying that the movie was over lol. and of course All Hail to Christopher Reeve and Gene Hackman, but Michael's performance of Lex was so good and without apology I'll say that Tom's performance was the BEST Clark Kent. Ever.
wow they rated lower than I was expecting! lol...I originally gave it 2 roses and then bumped it up to 3 after dissecting all the elements, so interesting that they bumped it up but this is def an ep I would show someone who had never seen the show (although I think we're moving away from that metric cuz now the show has progressed to the point that you really would have to start earlier lol)
🌹🌹🌹Really glad for this podcast and you guys make it feel like we're part of the conversation with you ❤️
Well said! I had to give it 🌹🌹🌹 roses too! I think their scale is more on the storyline when it should be moments. And there were just way too many good moments to make this an epic episode!
Still can't believe this podcast is a thing. Every couple years I find myself rewatching Smallville. Even though I was a toddler when the show was running, it was super influential. Also, this channel is growing to be HUGE
Absolute, total AWARD WINNING EPISODE!
This one is an absolute keeper! After I saw this episode I immediately started looking her up. She has an absolutely wonderful singing voice.
Someone tell me Tom wasn't in love with her from the get go, lol 😊
FINALLY! I've been waiting for this episode. I watch this episode at least once a year.
Michael didn’t like the episode because he’s STILL jealous all these years later of clarks and Sarah’s chemistry 😂 😊
This two episode set is one of my favorites in the whole series
Did anyone else notice the blue and red cups used for the hot chocolate during the date at the ice rink? 😌
That’s super cool that you guys are bringing patreons onto the show. I’m really enjoying watching your reactions to the episodes and also reminiscing over a show I loved so much when it aired. I totally binged and watch all 10 seasons after watching the first episode of talkville 🤣.
Thanks so much for showing up every week 💕 Hope you all have a fabulous Easter long weekend!
They were right! The way that Sarah nibbles a cup or bites her lip is so dreamy! Sarah Carter was amazing in the role and the impression she made was unforgettable. Clark got to be HIMSELF with Alicia, which you didn't get until Lois at the tail end of the series. The fact that people wanted her to remain is testament to the writing and delivery of Sarah's performance. The fact that we wanted her, added to the tragedy. Alicia also played an important tool in the development of the Clark and Chloe's relationship.
Fav episode, clarks talk with Martha and the single tear, perfect scene and when I think Tom proved he could act after having to be "protected" in early seasons because he was new , that scene made me think wow xx
Sarah Carter❤️ lmao you called it Rosie we all gotta crush on her
Great episode and it was lovely to see Sarah on the podcast and she definitely portrays the dreamy persona that her character Alicia had on the show. Thanks once again for giving us such an enjoyable and at times hilarious chat🤩
Then Unsafe happened and I WANTED ALICIA BAKER IN THE SHOW SO HARD. They chemistry was unbelievable. It was a nuclear-like chemistry. Heat, destruction, creation all at once. I'm from Brazil and I felt it from here, in a total other continent. I know that Tom was merried before with Jamie and I knew that at that time but despite that I whished so much that Tom and Sarah even came along romantically speaking out of the set. Those strange things that fans cheers for, you know hahahahahaha
@Talk Ville Podcast
To all still wondering, in Alicia Baker's first episode, Obsession, she teleported back to the Kent home after being caught in Clark's bedroom. It was there that she learned from overhearing Jonathan Kent that Clark "gets sick" around meteor rocks. It's true that this only explains green kryptonite and not the red from the class ring, but we're at least getting closer to logical storytelling now. Alicia also "decorated" Clark's loft and school locker in that same episode. Point is, this girl teleports, stalks, spies and learns things. Clark, being so introspective, also seems like the type to journal about these things however irresponsible that might be. Also, could she have learned from other inmates during her time at Belle Reve perhaps?
This tracks! Her obsession, wanting to know all she can about him, wouldn’t take a big leap of faith to believe her spying on Clark,
Can we be honest and say this: Sarah has the best "messy hair" look that is sooooo alluring ....
"In the ring, I never really knew fear." =Toms hoodie is dope!
So good to see Sarah carter again!. Love this podcast!. Thank you for making this.
Alicia was such an integral part of Clark becoming Superman, loved the arc she had. Glad she could be on the pod
Sarah and Tom had mad chemistry on the show. I love their episodes.
Loved Sarah on Falling Skies. Big fan since Smallville
The chemistry was so good between Alicia & Clark and the first time I felt bad for a former villain when she met her final destiny in a later episode. I cried when Clark did😢
How the heck is she even more adorable than when she was on smallville. She’s stunning but appears to be a very delightful healthy and happy human being with a bright beautiful infectious smile 🥰 her voice hasn’t changed that much either. I REALLY like her. It would be awesome to see her on here more.
This is one of my favorite episodes and I knew the special guest was going to be Sarah. Let's go
I liked her on the flash too. Smallville con sounds awesome.
From Smallville to Falling Skies to The Flash as Cicada. She is so friggin awesome
OMG! Sarah herself -❤❤❤. Thank you for consistently being the best part of my day . TGFTVW 🙏.
Ryan’s reaction to Allyson Mack’s PSA had me in stitches😂
I love how Michael was pushing and hoping for the Patron to say how much the love triangle was the worst part of the series lol. I felt like that’s what he was fishing for 😂
"someone told me to keep it professional"
"Was it steve?!"
Tom sounded so mad lol. Like finding out someone you liked liked you back 10 years ago.
Tom..you and Annette were absolutely amazing in that scene. I was in tears. And thank you for sharing that you were right there with us as the viewers. So much amazing gravitas!
OMG, she's so adorable. Loved her character Alicia; so glad they brought her back, she was made for the role, so glad she finally got to come up the show, and she is right about one of the reason why the show was successful was because of the super aspect of it - it wasn't the only thing but it was part of it, and I have rewatched Smallville many times, in fact I just did a season 8 re-watch and I love it, the effects are great and hold up . I remember watching her first appearance in Smallville as the good girl, so we thought, but it turned out she was abusive to her parents. Loved the fact she sneaked into Clark's room and became obsessive, then tried to kill Lana. Funny thing, the doctor shoots her when trying to kill Clark, then rushes over to see if she's okay, and then gets shoved thirty feet into the air by Clark; love that scene. I agree, her biting the cup was so hot-so hot! Her chemistry with Clark was kinetic; finally, Clark had someone who he could be around and not hide who he really is and same for her. No wonder Clark lost it when she was taken from him.
I love Martha's reaction to finding out Clark ran out and got married - love her reaction she is an incredible actress.
OMG, Thank you so much for having Sarah Carter on! She's one of my favorite guest stars on Smallville. It's nice to hear her experience on the show.
I think I represent everyone when I say Sarah's portrayal of Alicia as a guest star for only 3 episodes on Smallville was the most deep and impactful. Yes Alicia's storyline helped but the chemistry between her and Tom on screen was out of this world!!
This was a REALLY good episode and podcast! I loved the storyline between Clark and Alicia! I really enjoyed the interview with Sarah, it was interesting to hear her thoughts on the show and how Tom and her connected as actors. You can see how professional they were and yet how easy it was for everyone to become friends. 🙂
We loved Sarah because she made Clark smile. He had so little happy moments and there he was, smiling. We always talk about it