Thank you for the reviews on MFT's at all price points. Not everyone needs a Festool MFT or can afford one. Your input is valuable when making a decision for purchase. Thanks again.
Yes , it's easy to forget that Festool's prices are out of range for many with living costs or income situations that are not necessarily one's own situation . It's good to see all bases covered by a reviewer Peter.
The problem with a lot of this white label stuff is the designers clearly don't understand the intended use, they're just building a product for the sake of selling a product. The same goes for the resellers, who don't seem to have much input in terms of customising their own designs. If you ask the reseller a question or for a specification that can't be answered by looking at the spec sheet, they'll either guess the answer and hope for the best, or be honest and tell you they simply don't know the answer. Some of the kit is built to a very poor spec too. I once bought the Excel 50L shop vac as it appeared identical to the Lumberjack for £20 less. It caused the workshop radio to loose signal completely when switched on so I opened it up and found that to cut costs they omitted the arc suppression capacitors that protect the switch and motor brushes and prevent electrical sparks, and the RFI suppresion capacitors that help suppress radio interferance caused by the inductive load of the motor. They refunded it no questions asked, but didn't take the feedback onboard and I'd bet there are a lot of those machines out there.
I can’t entirely agree. The manufacturers - lets suggest Chinese for the most part - will make whatever the buyers (the resellers) want. They take a basic design - for instance a vacuum cleaner - and then add or subtract whatever the buyer asks for. That does mean that machines may share a common body but the quality of the internals will vary according to the required specification. It makes choosing which colour/brand of vacuum cleaner very difficult for the end-user. The same principle applies to higher cost items such as table saws, planers etc unless you buy from a seller who one sells what they make. In terms of buying the finished article - such as this cheap MFT table - I do think the resellers make to a price knowing that a) it’s not the perfect solution and b) that most hobbyists can either live with its foibles or spend some time happily fixing the problems. I’ve been lucky enough to be able to spend almost what I want on tools through the years. I have borne in mind my usage and therefore, for instance, haven’t justified Altendorf but have gone for industrial quality machines. However, I think we have to understand that woodworking appeals to so many and there is a significant proportion who operate on very strict budgets. I suggest that it is wonderful that you can make things with relatively cheap tools - making is good for the maker and the beneficiary. If you do have surplus tools, please consider giving them to the various charities that exist to help rehabilitate people who have suffered trauma. My personal favourite is the military charities but all of them are worthy causes
@@theofarmmanager267 That is how the white label rebadging works, but there are resellers who simply take those standard designs and sell them without modification simply because they look like a competing product. There's a difference between, for example, Excel who generally can't give you much useful information on their products, and Axminster, who sell similar white label products under their various sub brands but who do invest in their R&D and who not only know the products inside out, but can generally supply spares. The chinese manufacturers will make whatever a reseller wants, but the reseller has to know what they want, or have some level of knowledge to understand how the products work. I think the availability of budget-friendly tools is a wonderful thing, so long as the cost cutting doesn't impact safety. There are some tools that should never be purchased cheaply or from an 'off brand' - router bits for example. Every tool has a drawback regardless of how much you spend - I don't think I've ever found a 'perfect' tool for any money. But the end user, who on seeing 2 visually identical machines will likely choose the lower cost option unless there is an obvious reason to go for the more expensive machine, may be putting themselves at risk or may be buying an inferior product that will fail sooner. Take the Excel and Lumberjack vacuums- the parts that were missing from the Excel cost pennies in volume, so there's no excuse to leave them out as it would maybe add about 50P, plus a bit of production (which the factory does anyway) to the product cost. The difference is a machine that will probably fail in 6 months, compared to a machine that will last years, and a machine that may spark and start a workshop fire vs a machine that won't.
Thanks Peter, that's an interesting little unit, given that all the options you've looked at have their weaknesses, it doesn't look too bad, and it's all but in the "Workmate" price bracket so a realistic option for a weekend DIYer ! I'm still thinking of making something myself as I don't need to transport mine regularly but if you do and you're on a budget this looks like a great option !
I made my own for the price of the mdf sheet (well had to get my money's worth from the PARF guide system I bought) I just set it on a pair of Stanley saw horses and it doubles as a router table. It's really handy for site jobs and fits easily in the boot of my Fiesta along with the horses and tools. I use it with a 1m Makita rail and the Dave Stanton dog locks it's so versatile.
One of my portable work surfaces is Vika’s two-fold Workbench/Scaffold, and while not an MFT, some features have made me appreciate having purchased it. The pros are its reversible use, integrated power, durable construction, light weight, and good stability. The cons are no dog holes or clamping rails, no height adjustment (holes could be drilled, I suppose), swing-out leg braces, no linking to other work surfaces, and no accessories. Also, the reversible aspect creates limited space between the surfaces, so I’ve not drilled dog holes because clamps will not easily fit. Seeing the workstations you’ve reviewed has made me think adding some slots to the Vika would improve it. Thank you for the reviews!
Hi Peter, £80 for the small MFT, that is a good price and if not used all the time it's small enough to not be in the way and easily stored.Great for working away on site, solid build. As always a great video, Take care
Loving this series. Making me rethink workflow. May invest in building one. Just disassembled a bench I made some 30 years ago for my chopsaw which withstood all manner of rain, being left outside and other abuses. See you next week sir Peter.
Very objective overview and totally agree on the price Vs performance perspective. Seems like a good option for people getting into it as a hobby or those on a tight budget. If there were no budget options for tools in general and only the very best it would be very difficult to get started for a lot of people. That being said products existing just for the sake of it without much thought into how it would be used is a big bare of mine. Seems like for the most part this bench is very usable if not exceptional.
I have the Vevor, I use it often it's fine but I seem to pop the leg locks off and it has collapsed on me once because of this. The clamps that came with it have no holding power and unscrewing them everytime to use them was frustrating so I got some that have a quick release, magnum brand and they work much better with this system. My shop is quite small so I would recommend this to other small shop carpenters
This is perfect timing for me, I am in the market for a some kind of workstation/trestle type things that I can fold up and stick in my limited under stair cupboard space. Now I am hit by a dilema over what gives me more flexibility and utility for the money, one of the metabo benches or 2 of these for the same price.
Nice video, been wondering about these As I have very limited space and use a shared back yard. But I think I’ll stick with my trusted old black and decker 825 work bench 20 odd year old hand me down that I have used a lot
Another interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to share. I have to say, I'd much rather go with a version of you're DIY mft style bench than spend £80 on something that falls short on so many issues. Given the amount of tutorials available on the subject of shop built workbenches, I cannot imagine it being beyond the capabilities of most woodworkers to com up with a better solution.
Thanks. The big issue with a DIY MFT is the folding legs; if you're happy with an MFT-style bench on trestles, then it's a lot easier, but that's not for me. 👍
Well you certainly have a lot of choices for worktops benches over there. I guess I'll keep using my two, mostly plastic top, DeWalt folding benches. They use about the same weird hole spacing and size for their dog holes. I have a bunch of Kreg dogs and clamps that fit these tables. Their great knock about tables that I've had for about 5 years now. Their covered n paint drill holes and saw cuts. The legs are a fixed height, but they only cost me $70 at the time I bought them at Home Depot in a post Christmas close out sale.
What a great little portable workbench. Even if you have a full sized bench at home its great to take to the room you are working in. Great pity they did not have a t track in the sides which they still could have used to hold storage tubs or the 4x2 brackets, or even to join two tables like on a tracksaw track. Few things i noticed I felt was missed. 1. The joining section for two tables sadly sit higher than the table surface when in place and should have been kept flush. 2. I did not see any wall hook system as would be great to have the option when folded to hook over two bolts to store on the Garage wall. Would have been nice if those 4x2 brackets provide could double up to do this. Great price, I paid 80 quid for an MFT insert when I made my own bench so this comes in at a great price all in.
That joint sitting higher than the worktop surface is the only thing that bothers me when I'm assembling cabinets on them. I think I will raise the MDF worktop by putting some spacers between the MDF and the brackets that hold the MDF. Oh and I attached a piece of 2x2 on the wall and the bench can be nicely hanged on it, since the inner face of the aluminium bars are flat.
Hey Peter, another great video! You said you didn't know if the bench dog hole spacing would be maintained if adding another bench... You could measure the left hole to the left edge and then the right hole to the right edge and add the numbers together and then divide by 76. If you get a whole number...
On a recent project for myself, I forced myself (helped by the fact the tablesaw was being used as a storage area.......)to build it using just the tracksaw and MFT. However; once the cutting was done I really didn't need the MFT, as an MFT, just a smaller assembly table so this would have been perfect. Why use the big pickup when a VW bug will do?
Would be great to see someone manufacture a low cost replacement top for this with the correct hole spacing (and ideally some extra thickness for cutting on it).
Trouble is the thicker you go the harder it becomes to use rail clamps. But I agree, third-party tops to this and the Metabo size would resolve a lot of the niggles. 👍
I have the ply table that comes with hinges that enable it to be folded down bit like a cardboard box and a mdf 96mm centre holes top and it is fantastic im goin to see if I can fit an aluminium section to the sides it certainly is the best I've used for sturdiness I think I could sit my van on it lol
Interesting video. I purchased 2 of the workbenches direct from the Vevor website for less than £100 which is an absolute steal. They don't have adjustable legs but I can live with this.
I wish that I'd had one of these when I was doing up our beach hut last winter. It would have saved a lot of back ache bending over a low aluminium folding bench that was almost impossible to clamp anything to. If my wife signs off on my plans to build custom kitchen cabinets down there, I might even get two.
Thanks! The Metabo is the better bench, but not by as much as the price suggests, and you'll likely still need to fix the top, unless you get a good one. 👍
These seem to be excellent little workbenches for the money, I picked up the Vevor version which doesn't have the extendable legs for £49 delivered a week ago, turned up next day and I used it in a recent wardrobe build, excellent value for money and a great bit of kit compared to trestles etc..
Just paid £68.39 using the link to the Vevor one. This looks ideal for me as an alternative to replacing all the plastic bits on my ancient Workmate. It seems to do many of the things I use the Workmate for better, and I can live with the loose legs and sharp edges on the Workmate if I can use it less often! Dog hole sizes are no problem when you've got 3D printers! For my needs, it's not worth paying for a more expensive one, especially when they are far from perfect.
just saw the Vevor on on offer - not sure if the legs adjust on that one .... Never adjust my workmate - so maybe not an issue - will be interest when it arrives what you think of it ....i looked at a workmate type version at axminster a few years ago at just under £150 Now Bosch PWB 600 Work Bench
@@etafws I didn't think of that! From the photos it looks like it doesn't, but I've saved some money, so can probably live with it! My Workmate isn't adjustable either, and it won't get a lot of use, but it it's a problem I can bodge up, sorry skilfully craft, some extensions!
I want also like to thank you for the great reviews on MFT's at all price points. I think it is very useful for many people to know the differences, advantages and disadvantages of each MFT. Especially usefull that they are all tested by the same person. I am curious about the experience with the reamer at metabo bench. But having to spend an extra €50 on an UJK Combined Chamfer & Reamer Tool, for example, isn't great either.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I don't know if it is important to have a typical spacing for the dog holes. But it's strange that they didn't use standard 20 mm dog holes. I think that is the main reason I wouldn't buy it. For all the rest it would meet my expectations and needs. How do they declare the diameter of the dog holes in the specifications, available before buying it: 20 mm or 19.xx mm?
There’s a few benches that don’t adhere to the standard 96mm centres, but if you have something that requires it and you don’t have them, then that’s an issue. There’s nothing specified for the hole size or the grid, just overall dimensions and weight. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for your explanation. My cheap foldable workmate had some 20 mm holes in the table top . The material (MDF?) was quite poor so after af ter a couple of years the table top broke. I made a new top with a 20 mm forstner bit from a left over of a kitchen counter. That worked out quite well. After that I made a small MFT top of a melamine board as a replacable insert for my work bench top. I wasn't hindered that time by any knowledge of spacing. I use it from time to time. It works. Now I noticed the diagonal longer holes (slots) in the mini- MFT in the video. So maybe one day I'll do a remake.
I don't think I would like to cut on (or cut through, I did that once with a saw horse when the blade depth slipped on my saw) the work table top so I would be protecting the top with a couple pieces of scrap, the lack of t-track is the bigger issue. I have that same issue with my Bora Centipede. Cheap MFT is a much bigger problem in the USA, I'm waiting for Powertec or WEN to get in the game here in the USA. The Centipede top is pretty nice, for what it is, and relatively cheap, and since the hole pattern is 20mm on a 96mm grid, but the legs are, as you pointed out, a bit silly.
Interesting the holes aren’t quite the right size, I guess the grid being smaller than an MFT isn’t a big deal if they are square to each other. Have you checked them for Square?
Watching the video, it seems like the connectors to join two of these, do not sit flush with the top. Is that correct? If so, this seems like an issue.
Yes that’s right - as I say in the. Odeon it’s disappointing that the surface sits flush with the extrusion, but it should be easy enough to resolve. 👍
@@richh5392 I have two of those. Since my workshop is not a workshop because it's so tiny, I needed something small when folded but also when unfolded. Setup is a matter of 1 minute. Or 5 minutes if you want to unfold two of them and use two 2x4 between them. I actually managed to cut large sheets of MDF for kitchen cabinets and then assemble those cuts on them. I'm a hobbyist, so I can't justify buying even the Metabo table. For now.
The Vevor has no adjustable legs! In Germany they are a bit more expensive than the current deal at Vevors homepage itself, where I ordered two of them for €82.99 each, that‘s about £69,-. Amazon Germany wants €102,-. Ordered on October 1st, they will be delivered on October 4th only because Oct. 3rd is no working day because it’s the national „Day of German Reunion“.
@@10MinuteWorkshop LOL, I rush across the room to get the chase on asap. Maybe we should have a 10MW (not megawatts😁) game show, you could be the Chaser 😎😎😎
There is nothing wrong with the table, as a basic table, some people may just need that. I cannot afford it, but for those who can, why not? Its a starter for those wanting to get into such things.
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Thank you for the reviews on MFT's at all price points. Not everyone needs a Festool MFT or can afford one. Your input is valuable when making a decision for purchase. Thanks again.
Thank you! 👍
Yes , it's easy to forget that Festool's prices are out of range for many with living costs or income situations that are not necessarily one's own situation . It's good to see all bases covered by a reviewer Peter.
The problem with a lot of this white label stuff is the designers clearly don't understand the intended use, they're just building a product for the sake of selling a product. The same goes for the resellers, who don't seem to have much input in terms of customising their own designs. If you ask the reseller a question or for a specification that can't be answered by looking at the spec sheet, they'll either guess the answer and hope for the best, or be honest and tell you they simply don't know the answer. Some of the kit is built to a very poor spec too. I once bought the Excel 50L shop vac as it appeared identical to the Lumberjack for £20 less. It caused the workshop radio to loose signal completely when switched on so I opened it up and found that to cut costs they omitted the arc suppression capacitors that protect the switch and motor brushes and prevent electrical sparks, and the RFI suppresion capacitors that help suppress radio interferance caused by the inductive load of the motor. They refunded it no questions asked, but didn't take the feedback onboard and I'd bet there are a lot of those machines out there.
I can’t entirely agree. The manufacturers - lets suggest Chinese for the most part - will make whatever the buyers (the resellers) want. They take a basic design - for instance a vacuum cleaner - and then add or subtract whatever the buyer asks for. That does mean that machines may share a common body but the quality of the internals will vary according to the required specification. It makes choosing which colour/brand of vacuum cleaner very difficult for the end-user. The same principle applies to higher cost items such as table saws, planers etc unless you buy from a seller who one sells what they make.
In terms of buying the finished article - such as this cheap MFT table - I do think the resellers make to a price knowing that a) it’s not the perfect solution and b) that most hobbyists can either live with its foibles or spend some time happily fixing the problems.
I’ve been lucky enough to be able to spend almost what I want on tools through the years. I have borne in mind my usage and therefore, for instance, haven’t justified Altendorf but have gone for industrial quality machines. However, I think we have to understand that woodworking appeals to so many and there is a significant proportion who operate on very strict budgets. I suggest that it is wonderful that you can make things with relatively cheap tools - making is good for the maker and the beneficiary.
If you do have surplus tools, please consider giving them to the various charities that exist to help rehabilitate people who have suffered trauma. My personal favourite is the military charities but all of them are worthy causes
@@theofarmmanager267 That is how the white label rebadging works, but there are resellers who simply take those standard designs and sell them without modification simply because they look like a competing product. There's a difference between, for example, Excel who generally can't give you much useful information on their products, and Axminster, who sell similar white label products under their various sub brands but who do invest in their R&D and who not only know the products inside out, but can generally supply spares. The chinese manufacturers will make whatever a reseller wants, but the reseller has to know what they want, or have some level of knowledge to understand how the products work.
I think the availability of budget-friendly tools is a wonderful thing, so long as the cost cutting doesn't impact safety. There are some tools that should never be purchased cheaply or from an 'off brand' - router bits for example. Every tool has a drawback regardless of how much you spend - I don't think I've ever found a 'perfect' tool for any money. But the end user, who on seeing 2 visually identical machines will likely choose the lower cost option unless there is an obvious reason to go for the more expensive machine, may be putting themselves at risk or may be buying an inferior product that will fail sooner. Take the Excel and Lumberjack vacuums- the parts that were missing from the Excel cost pennies in volume, so there's no excuse to leave them out as it would maybe add about 50P, plus a bit of production (which the factory does anyway) to the product cost. The difference is a machine that will probably fail in 6 months, compared to a machine that will last years, and a machine that may spark and start a workshop fire vs a machine that won't.
I bet you’re fun at parties…..
Hello Peter, a good, fair and honest review. Thank you. The modern day "workmate".
Thanks Peter, that's an interesting little unit, given that all the options you've looked at have their weaknesses, it doesn't look too bad, and it's all but in the "Workmate" price bracket so a realistic option for a weekend DIYer ! I'm still thinking of making something myself as I don't need to transport mine regularly but if you do and you're on a budget this looks like a great option !
I made my own for the price of the mdf sheet (well had to get my money's worth from the PARF guide system I bought) I just set it on a pair of Stanley saw horses and it doubles as a router table. It's really handy for site jobs and fits easily in the boot of my Fiesta along with the horses and tools. I use it with a 1m Makita rail and the Dave Stanton dog locks it's so versatile.
One of my portable work surfaces is Vika’s two-fold Workbench/Scaffold, and while not an MFT, some features have made me appreciate having purchased it. The pros are its reversible use, integrated power, durable construction, light weight, and good stability. The cons are no dog holes or clamping rails, no height adjustment (holes could be drilled, I suppose), swing-out leg braces, no linking to other work surfaces, and no accessories. Also, the reversible aspect creates limited space between the surfaces, so I’ve not drilled dog holes because clamps will not easily fit. Seeing the workstations you’ve reviewed has made me think adding some slots to the Vika would improve it. Thank you for the reviews!
The Vika two-fold looked really interesting! Never seen one in the wild, but always a good concept. 👍
Hi Peter, £80 for the small MFT, that is a good price and if not used all the time it's small enough to not be in the way and easily stored.Great for working away on site, solid build.
As always a great video, Take care
Cheers Shaun! Yes, lots of potential in something small and cheap like this! 👍
Loving this series. Making me rethink workflow. May invest in building one. Just disassembled a bench I made some 30 years ago for my chopsaw which withstood all manner of rain, being left outside and other abuses. See you next week sir Peter.
Thanks! Ah yes, the old ‘left outside in the rain’ test, lol! 😂👍
The Vevor one has no height adjustment. Had to find out on ordering.
Very objective overview and totally agree on the price Vs performance perspective. Seems like a good option for people getting into it as a hobby or those on a tight budget. If there were no budget options for tools in general and only the very best it would be very difficult to get started for a lot of people. That being said products existing just for the sake of it without much thought into how it would be used is a big bare of mine. Seems like for the most part this bench is very usable if not exceptional.
Thanks! Absolutely an unexceptional bench, but a great value starter option. 👍
I have the Vevor, I use it often it's fine but I seem to pop the leg locks off and it has collapsed on me once because of this. The clamps that came with it have no holding power and unscrewing them everytime to use them was frustrating so I got some that have a quick release, magnum brand and they work much better with this system. My shop is quite small so I would recommend this to other small shop carpenters
This is perfect timing for me, I am in the market for a some kind of workstation/trestle type things that I can fold up and stick in my limited under stair cupboard space. Now I am hit by a dilema over what gives me more flexibility and utility for the money, one of the metabo benches or 2 of these for the same price.
Nice video, been wondering about these As I have very limited space and use a shared back yard. But I think I’ll stick with my trusted old black and decker 825 work bench 20 odd year old hand me down that I have used a lot
Thanks Peter, I think I will wait for the results of the reamer on the metabo before I make a decision, take care.
Cheers Steve! 👍
Another interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to share.
I have to say, I'd much rather go with a version of you're DIY mft style bench than spend £80 on something that falls short on so many issues.
Given the amount of tutorials available on the subject of shop built workbenches, I cannot imagine it being beyond the capabilities of most woodworkers to com up with a better solution.
Thanks. The big issue with a DIY MFT is the folding legs; if you're happy with an MFT-style bench on trestles, then it's a lot easier, but that's not for me. 👍
The vevor ones are £68 those weekend on Amazon prime.
I've ordered one.
Well you certainly have a lot of choices for worktops benches over there. I guess I'll keep using my two, mostly plastic top, DeWalt folding benches. They use about the same weird hole spacing and size for their dog holes. I have a bunch of Kreg dogs and clamps that fit these tables. Their great knock about tables that I've had for about 5 years now. Their covered n paint drill holes and saw cuts. The legs are a fixed height, but they only cost me $70 at the time I bought them at Home Depot in a post Christmas close out sale.
Sometimes that's all you need. 👍
What a great little portable workbench. Even if you have a full sized bench at home its great to take to the room you are working in. Great pity they did not have a t track in the sides which they still could have used to hold storage tubs or the 4x2 brackets, or even to join two tables like on a tracksaw track.
Few things i noticed I felt was missed.
1. The joining section for two tables sadly sit higher than the table surface when in place and should have been kept flush.
2. I did not see any wall hook system as would be great to have the option when folded to hook over two bolts to store on the Garage wall. Would have been nice if those 4x2 brackets provide could double up to do this.
Great price, I paid 80 quid for an MFT insert when I made my own bench so this comes in at a great price all in.
That joint sitting higher than the worktop surface is the only thing that bothers me when I'm assembling cabinets on them. I think I will raise the MDF worktop by putting some spacers between the MDF and the brackets that hold the MDF.
Oh and I attached a piece of 2x2 on the wall and the bench can be nicely hanged on it, since the inner face of the aluminium bars are flat.
Hey Peter, another great video! You said you didn't know if the bench dog hole spacing would be maintained if adding another bench... You could measure the left hole to the left edge and then the right hole to the right edge and add the numbers together and then divide by 76. If you get a whole number...
That assumes that the benches are butted together exactly, though; the spacers don’t necessarily do that. 👍
On a recent project for myself, I forced myself (helped by the fact the tablesaw was being used as a storage area.......)to build it using just the tracksaw and MFT. However; once the cutting was done I really didn't need the MFT, as an MFT, just a smaller assembly table so this would have been perfect. Why use the big pickup when a VW bug will do?
Would be great to see someone manufacture a low cost replacement top for this with the correct hole spacing (and ideally some extra thickness for cutting on it).
Trouble is the thicker you go the harder it becomes to use rail clamps. But I agree, third-party tops to this and the Metabo size would resolve a lot of the niggles. 👍
I have the ply table that comes with hinges that enable it to be folded down bit like a cardboard box and a mdf 96mm centre holes top and it is fantastic im goin to see if I can fit an aluminium section to the sides it certainly is the best I've used for sturdiness I think I could sit my van on it lol
Love to see this please
Interesting video. I purchased 2 of the workbenches direct from the Vevor website for less than £100 which is an absolute steal. They don't have adjustable legs but I can live with this.
Thanks! Two for a ton is a bargain! I’d be interested to hear what the height was on the non-adjustable leg version. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Hi Peter, it's 73.5 cm.
@@DavidMcCarney-x2l Thank you very much! 👍
I wish that I'd had one of these when I was doing up our beach hut last winter. It would have saved a lot of back ache bending over a low aluminium folding bench that was almost impossible to clamp anything to.
If my wife signs off on my plans to build custom kitchen cabinets down there, I might even get two.
Sounds like a plan! 👍
I purchased a pair of Excel fully adjustable trestles for half the price of others and they have been fantastic.
Good to know, thanks! 👍
Great video, had been eyeing this one up and the metabo
Thanks! The Metabo is the better bench, but not by as much as the price suggests, and you'll likely still need to fix the top, unless you get a good one. 👍
Thank for reviewing these, really useful stuff! Looking forward to that reamers vide0 :)
Coming soon! 👍
These seem to be excellent little workbenches for the money, I picked up the Vevor version which doesn't have the extendable legs for £49 delivered a week ago, turned up next day and I used it in a recent wardrobe build, excellent value for money and a great bit of kit compared to trestles etc..
Thanks! Didn't realise there was a non height-adjustable version. Honestly for this kind of money I've no complaints. 👍
Just paid £68.39 using the link to the Vevor one. This looks ideal for me as an alternative to replacing all the plastic bits on my ancient Workmate. It seems to do many of the things I use the Workmate for better, and I can live with the loose legs and sharp edges on the Workmate if I can use it less often! Dog hole sizes are no problem when you've got 3D printers! For my needs, it's not worth paying for a more expensive one, especially when they are far from perfect.
Sounds good! 👍
just saw the Vevor on on offer - not sure if the legs adjust on that one .... Never adjust my workmate - so maybe not an issue - will be interest when it arrives what you think of it ....i looked at a workmate type version at axminster a few years ago at just under £150 Now
Bosch PWB 600 Work Bench
@@etafws I didn't think of that! From the photos it looks like it doesn't, but I've saved some money, so can probably live with it! My Workmate isn't adjustable either, and it won't get a lot of use, but it it's a problem I can bodge up, sorry skilfully craft, some extensions!
I want also like to thank you for the great reviews on MFT's at all price points.
I think it is very useful for many people to know the differences, advantages and disadvantages of each MFT. Especially usefull that they are all tested by the same person.
I am curious about the experience with the reamer at metabo bench. But having to spend an extra €50 on an UJK Combined Chamfer & Reamer Tool, for example, isn't great either.
Thank you! When I get everything together - including the benchdogs - I'll do an MFT marathon. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop that sounds very promising 😉
It looks the same as the Vevor folding workbench offered by Amazon for £68 plus change . Inlet the Vevor doesn’t look to have extending legs.
I say exactly this at the start of the video. 🤷♂️
I assume the reduced hole spacing is to allow a useful number of holes on a smaller table.
With 96mm you could still get a perfectly useful number in across the short dimension, and an extra column of holes in across the long side. 🤷♂️ 👍
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I don't know if it is important to have a typical spacing for the dog holes. But it's strange that they didn't use standard 20 mm dog holes.
I think that is the main reason I wouldn't buy it. For all the rest it would meet my expectations and needs.
How do they declare the diameter of the dog holes in the specifications, available before buying it: 20 mm or 19.xx mm?
There’s a few benches that don’t adhere to the standard 96mm centres, but if you have something that requires it and you don’t have them, then that’s an issue. There’s nothing specified for the hole size or the grid, just overall dimensions and weight. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for your explanation. My cheap foldable workmate had some 20 mm holes in the table top . The material (MDF?) was quite poor so after af ter a couple of years the table top broke. I made a new top with a 20 mm forstner bit from a left over of a kitchen counter. That worked out quite well. After that I
made a small MFT top of a melamine board as a replacable insert for my work bench top. I wasn't hindered that time by any knowledge of spacing.
I use it from time to time. It works. Now I noticed the diagonal longer holes (slots) in the mini- MFT in the video. So maybe one day I'll do a remake.
I don't think I would like to cut on (or cut through, I did that once with a saw horse when the blade depth slipped on my saw) the work table top so I would be protecting the top with a couple pieces of scrap, the lack of t-track is the bigger issue. I have that same issue with my Bora Centipede. Cheap MFT is a much bigger problem in the USA, I'm waiting for Powertec or WEN to get in the game here in the USA. The Centipede top is pretty nice, for what it is, and relatively cheap, and since the hole pattern is 20mm on a 96mm grid, but the legs are, as you pointed out, a bit silly.
I think you saved me some coin. I was looking at the Metabo MWB100 for $500AUD , But I can get this in the Vevor flavour for $165 posted.
Nice share.
Interesting the holes aren’t quite the right size, I guess the grid being smaller than an MFT isn’t a big deal if they are square to each other.
Have you checked them for Square?
The problem with having holes slightly smaller than the dogs is that you have to ream out the holes to make the dogs fit, to check them for square...😬
I even though the extrusion is on the same level as the top, I reckon it could be cut with a proper blade
Well yes, it the point is that you wouldn’t want to cut into the extrusion. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I meant just once, to have a cutline for the rail hinge installation
Watching the video, it seems like the connectors to join two of these, do not sit flush with the top. Is that correct? If so, this seems like an issue.
Yes that’s right - as I say in the. Odeon it’s disappointing that the surface sits flush with the extrusion, but it should be easy enough to resolve. 👍
Too finicky to set up for portable use, too limited for permanent set up. Great video.
how is it too finicky for portable use?
@@richh5392 I have two of those. Since my workshop is not a workshop because it's so tiny, I needed something small when folded but also when unfolded. Setup is a matter of 1 minute. Or 5 minutes if you want to unfold two of them and use two 2x4 between them. I actually managed to cut large sheets of MDF for kitchen cabinets and then assemble those cuts on them. I'm a hobbyist, so I can't justify buying even the Metabo table. For now.
I understand the savings, I don't understand why when making a copy they do it wrong 😁. However, I prefer to improve Metabo 👍
Maybe they thought it could be. anew 'standard' - like Microsoft's 'embrace and extend' ; no, you'll love it! You're welcome! 😂
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😁
The old adage, "You get what you pay for" certainly applies.
The monotone shirt is much easier on the eyes, too! All the best!
Thanks! 👍
The vevor version appears to be £68.39 on Amazon right now....bargain!
The Vevor has no adjustable legs! In Germany they are a bit more expensive than the current deal at Vevors homepage itself, where I ordered two of them for €82.99 each, that‘s about £69,-. Amazon Germany wants €102,-.
Ordered on October 1st, they will be delivered on October 4th only because Oct. 3rd is no working day because it’s the national „Day of German Reunion“.
Pretty interesting little workbench indeed, Peter! I like the price!!! 😃
Thanks for the review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks! Yes, lots of potential in something small, light and well priced! And you too! 🙌👍
Bit like that awful tea-time TV game show - _Pointless_ 😂😂😂
Why is it always on? 🤷♂️
@@10MinuteWorkshop LOL, I rush across the room to get the chase on asap. Maybe we should have a 10MW (not megawatts😁) game show, you could be the Chaser 😎😎😎
There is nothing wrong with the table, as a basic table, some people may just need that.
I cannot afford it, but for those who can, why not?
Its a starter for those wanting to get into such things.