It's INSANE How Washed Up Jordan Peterson Is
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#jordanpeterson #advice #motivation
Negotiating a raise in the modern economy is easy.
Step one: Unionize
That goes against the right's cult of individualism.
Step Two: Unable to unionize-quietly start to look for an exit or another job with equal or greater pay.
Step Three: Seek out a competitor to see if they’re better offers.
Step Four: Work a bit harder and longer with the intent of leaving…but don’t reveal this co-workers or managers.
Step Five: Quiet or noticeably quit.
@@pluto545 The fact that this is actually the only negotiation option for about 90% of workers in the world is pretty sad.
I wouldn’t say easy. But definitely straight forward
@@JeanAlexander-dg6kh Call the Union a Confederacy.
JP: "Woman are the dragon of chaos of society, and men are no longer the knights who will tame the dragons of chaos, which is bringing society to a collapsing point. (starts crying)"
Student: "Teacher, can we get back to the topic of the class."
JP crying because men cannot kill women is one of the stories of all time.
I don't think it's ok to make fun of a man because he cries.
I DO think it might be ok to make fun of Jordan Peterson for crying so much to push such harmful narratives. A bit like Glen Beck, if anyone remembers all that.
„Sir, this is a Wendy‘s.“
@@JadeoftheGlade it's definitely okay to make fun of a man for crying if he's crying for a really stupid reason
Ok nazbol zoomer.
This is what happens when he cant grift off being a therapist anymore
Yes he can. His followers are deluded to think he's the greatest mind of our time.
No, he has high status among many, so calling himself a "therapist" or not does not matter. His ealier work was also well delivered and it was not weird that he took off. The "therapist" label does not do much when it comes to followers of that thinking.
If it didn't matter , why did he go into hysterics over losing it😂
He hasn't been a working therapist for years, basically since he decided to grift off of the Canadian bill designating trans people as a protected class. The whole "I'm going to be sent to prison if I misgender a student" lie.
Caelan Conrad has a great video essay called something to the effect of "Jordan Peterson and the patients he left behind". Definitely recommend.
I’m not sure I understand your point, are you saying JP is grifting by pretending to be a therapist or being a bad one, or are you saying that therapy itself is a grift?? Because I would agree with the former but NOT the latter claim.
Imagine listening to Jordan Peterson speak and thinking he's some sort of intellectual giant.
I knew people like that. They've all since admitted that I was right from the start😂
To be fair, most of his fans are either teenagers or fresh divorcees, and since both groups are undergoing an identity crisis, they'll latch onto the most simplistic explanations for their problems, regardless of how worthless the explanation is.
he literally taught psychology at harvard, he is definitely a smart man.
@@annnee6818and then everyone stood up and clapped 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
I know some of them. One kid, tried telling me "he's a great man". I just had to walk away.
I liked Kermit the Frog better before he started wearing all these weird suits.
Val Resnick from Payback* comes to mind. I much preferred Porter's equally stylish but more modest clothing.
* if you have seen the theatrical version only, do yourself a favor and see the Director's Cut. I think it is superior. Also, the earlier Point Blank.
Dude raided the Joker's closet.
@@glitchedoom
The suit wasn't cheap, you ought to know, you bought it!
As for the postmodern televisions so called ''plan'', Tradman HAS no jurisdiction, he will find him and make him SQUEAL!
Everyone hates on the suits when they're the coolest part of him now :p
@@rocksparadox
"All you care about is hedonism! America deserves a better class of intellectual. And I'm gonna give it to em'."
A psychologist friend of mine once said that Peterson's understanding of psychology is so poor and outdated that it'd be like if a doctor from the 19th century appeared today and talked about women's vapors interfering with their ovaries. Jordan is not only cooked but poorly educated. Remember, he was found unfit to practice psychology both for ethical concerns and no longer being academically qualified. In his lectures he constantly cited outdated theories and very debunked ideas that haven't been relevant since the 80s, 70s and even 60s. Anyone that took his classes deserves a refund.
I know psychologists that play drinking games where they guess when or what paper debunked him in the 20th century
@@Eyclonus That's so funny, I love that.
I feel that way about most of my university “education “ . It took me thirty years to clear out the crap I was fed in uni….
...and he acted like a vampire exposed to a crucifix when told to take some classes to keep his license.
That's why you should start by reading the most up to day studies and literature in your field. I read history studies from the 70's and archeology from the 40's before I went to uni. I can tell it helped me none except give me a piece meal of outdated praxis that cluttered around in my brain and just mixed things up. I think it applies to socialist and anarchist theory too. If you can't apply it for today's world, then it's just art or a hobby about reading of a world long gone. It can inspire, but it's not a manual anymore
There's only so many times you can say 'clean your room' before everyone says, 'Yeah we get it.' And yeah. Realising he rose to fame high as a kite is funny. Post drugs you see the mess he really is.
He has always been a mess. He rose to fame by lying through his teeth about a Canadian trans rights bill after he was asked to respect his student's preferred pronouns at the University of Toronto.
@aaronmichaelwilkie9593 That's a very valid point.
yeah it’s a sad case of opioid addiction and how it can destroy someone.
His career is in dire straits. So many people have copied his talking points that he struggles to stand out amongst the crowd and gather a new audience they way he did in 2017. All while his old audience has gradually realized how out of the loop he is.
@@randomkyle3 benzos arent opioids are they?
I don't know who in the world still watches Jordan Peterson in 2024
Vaush has to take a trip to the comment section oj JP
I do. I watch when I munch on benzos 🤤
my dad :/
@@camspendlove2795 - Really?
@FLCM - Answer: Incels
JP: "women are non-Euclidian. If you look at them too long you'll be driven permanently insane."
His fans: "yeah man. Absolutely."
Maybe that's what happened to him
...This explains *so much* about H.P. Lovecraft.
Except even he managed to get a wife..
I don't women and deamonettes of slanesh
@RaptorJesus I thought h.p. was as gay as buttplug flavored vodka
That's literally a sick mindset, I am a man I am not so weak that just looking at women will ulter my brain 💀🤣
He peaked in 2020 when the word "woke" lost all meaning.
Before "woke" there was "SJW" (funny how all conservative propagandists changed their terminology in tune and all their dupes acted like nothing changed). Bot of these terms were created by leftists/liberals, but the meaning changed completely when right-wing propagandists hijacked them, even accounting for the wide range of very vague meanings they use it for.
I remember woke being a TV show on Hulu now I only hear white conservatives say it
Before 'woke", he and his fellow grifters talked about "SJWs" (funny how their dupes just went along with the terminology change as if nothing happened). Both of these originated with leftists resp. liberals, with a specific meaning, which was lost when conservatives hijacked it, to be used as a catch-all for anything progressive they were triggered by.
[BTW, I have no idea what YT's auto-censor found problematic in the previous version of this comment that was apparently deleted...]
That makes sense, I only became aware of his existence after Covid started us all working from home, and not immediately then. I had to run through the flat earthers and moon landing deniers before I got to theists and then Jorgy Peterbong.
I've never seen him say anything worth hearing, and I see occasional Pangburn clips where he's always the clown in the room.
He peaked right before he was exposed by Zizek
"You never can have an ideal woman. So to have a relationship with any woman you have to sacrifice the relationship with the ideal woman."
Why does JBP sound like someone making an argument that "2D is better than 3D"?
With how much he elevates metaphorical truth, you might be on to something. He often acts like stories matter more than real people.
Somebody should ask him who he believes is "best girl".
My bet is that he'll go into a 20 minute tangent about trans women trying to supercede femininity using post modernism
It also sounds a bit like someone trying to fully navigate the psychology of Neon Genesis Evangelion for the first time.
Maybe that's why all of JP's bloviating hasn't really had an effect on me. I've already approached the idea that our concepts of people are different from those people's self conceptions. Maybe I'm just a little ahead of the pack on this stuff, but I feel like this is kind of Psych 101 stuff on empathy and model of the mind.
Yeah.
It's more like he's making the argument that "3D is better than 4D because 4D doesn't exist." Okay... then why does he even mention 4D in the first place? He should focus the discourse on the value of 3D. Or talk about the social factors which lead people to expect 4D.
You can make fun of a lot of what he says, but 'be realistic' is probably not the best target.
Peterson looks like Will Ferrell playing Will Ferrell with dementia.
Some UA-cam comments really deserve awards.
This is it. This is the comment.
Not even Jordy is that bad.
I remember i got friend-zoned by a girl.
We had been friends for a long time and I caught major feelings
We went on some friend dates and stuff and she didn't seem to be feeling it - so as a mature adult I decided that I DID NOT want to be a creep and that I DID value her as a person and a friend so I backed the fuck off and chilled.
Long story short we got married in 2020 and have been very happy ever since
I never understood people getting annoyed by friend zoning. Female friends are the best way to meet other women and if you take a rejection well its a big green flag.
@grimsqueaker the secret is to back off far enough to let them marry someone else
You negged her. It never fails.
@@markbaker4425 best way to meet other women, hahah what a SIMP!
I remember Jordan Peterson from back when I was just an online atheist, and it's insane to see the arc he's traveled. *Swish* no net into the loony bin
I'm so glad there wasn't THIS amount of grifters back when I was a vulnerable 12.y.o. Alone on the internet
Ironically the sanitized and corporate owned internet is now orders of magnitude more dangerous to any young person than the wild west used to be
The Peterson Dillahunty "debate" was a strange event. When JBP stated you couldn't quit smoking without a spiritual experience I just stopped the video.
nice job making fun of someone destroyed by opioid addiction. Really punching up on that one, huh?
I was a member of the online atheist community before the rise of social media, back in the USENET years. I'd say that community was irreparably damaged by the American reaction to 9/11, which led to the rise of New Atheism, which served as an intellectual mask for Islamophobia. (I was a fan or Richard Dawkins from his time as evolutionist and science communicator, so it was a letdown to witness him going that way.) Since I was always critical of this trend, it was less of a surprise when so many online atheists joined the "anti-SJW" train. It was the final arc when some of these people went on to follow JP back into the fold of religion.
Yeah, he could have at least gone the same route as DarkMatter2525, or even Amazing Atheist, but somehow Jordan Peterson chose the worst possible ending.
Treating women like people and people you could be friends with is good advice, especially for some guys in chat
Never talk to women, Got it.
@@WhiteScorpio2 You don't talk to anyone? That's not healthy at all
@@zenbear9952 I guess, I just see absolutely no reason to talk to people. I don't need anything from them, they don't need anything from me.
I talk with my relatives, my coworkers (sometimes), I visit a book club once a month and I have one friend left from school. That's about it.
So yeah, I have no idea what "treat them like people" means. Walk by them on the street without ever acknowledging their existence?
@@WhiteScorpio2 this guy gets it
@@WhiteScorpio2 It's more like treat them like you would your friend or your coworkers. Also it doesn't sound like you aren't talking to anyone so that is good. Humans need some degree of socialization. You had me worried there lol
And let Jordan Peterson stay washed-up.
It takes a sad person to want to keep others down. Grow up.
You need to wash up. Literally!
Imagine being a young woman sitting in Jordy's class through this insane chaos dragon bulls**t.
But the Chaos Dragon is the archetypal inverse of the ideal projected since time immemorial to the effect of tens of thousands of stories that lead men to get up and hunt a mammoth, become entrepreneurs MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THEIR LIVES, don’t you understand?
@@btarczy5067 nice.
Master@@btarczy5067😮
It honestly can get worse - I remember a clip of him talking to a bunch young, mostly non-white women in his classroom about how women should never be CEOs. Like, cool, thanks, what the fuck.
@@btarczy5067well done, I no longer have to imagine it.
JBP sounds smart if you're dumb.
I used to listen to JBP and thought I was smart. Now I listen to Vaush and now I'm actually smart.
Dunning-Kruger effect
Damn bro I wasn't aware watching vaush boosted iq points.
@@JeanAlexander-dg6kh I hope this is a joke lol
Peterson is really, really mentally unwell - obviously we all know about the coma etc, but we may be seeing some level of dementia onset, even if it's just early stages. His unsettling meandering reminds me of patients I've cared for.
I didn’t know anything about this coma?? Why did he have to be put into a coma, and how long ago was it? (If you don’t mind answering!)
@@ciaraeynon755 iirc it was in 2020, think it was an induced coma as an extreme solution to benzo addiction
He was diagnosed with schizophrenia iirc, which tracks given how deranged his "work" is.
@@RowanRabbeythat one would be news to me. Hopefully he gets stronger meds if so, but he may be tfg.
He was already shallow as a puddle with his "advice," and then he fixated on transgender people and Twitter conspiracies. Bigotry just destroys the brain, especially when combined with a social media addiction.
Peterson is a drug addict who cries in public about how he was bullied by teens on Twitter.
I don't take life advice from druggies who cry about how they need help from strangers.
He was very much anti bigotry if you listen carefully to his 2018 talks. This man is almost a different person.
@@catsupchutney His claim from 2016 about that Canadian legislation C-16 was that misgendering people got a person put in prison, implying that this would happen to you. This was untrue. He's been acting in bad faith for years.
Russian rehab did a number on him
Russian and Serb. It was a revelation from his 2nd 12 Rules book that he and his daughter wasn't done with self-induced brain damage in that Russian private clinic and went on for after-treatment in another woo-woo clinic in Serbia, which wasn't any better. All this to avoid admitting to himself that he is an addict and undergo a proper year-long treatment dealing with the severe withdrawal symptoms. The two quack clinics took him several months in the end, no time gained but brain damage acquired.
this is probably why it's banned here
@@DaneelroTrue, once was a fan and I watched the first interview after the coma. He looked beaten down, kinda traumatized by his experiences while in coma.
@@Daneelro he was also an alcoholic during his undergraduate years. I don’t know if he ever really truly stopped drinking, but I do think he is what we call a “dry drunk“. Then of course there was addiction to benzodiazepines, and benzodiazepines are often utilized to treat severe alcoholism.
That’s very true. He has always been an addict. And I find it frightening that he is an addict that is giving life advice when he himself is doing nothing to fix what drives him to addiction.
Jordan Peterson's area of expertise is addiction treatment.
He got addicted to benzos, and wanted to treat it by going cold turkey.
The overwhelming majority of his peers feel that this is a very bad way to treat benzo addiction, so much so that Peterson had to travel to Russia to find a doctor willing to treat benzo addiction this way.
That was when he got brain damage. Rebecca Watson had a video about the whole thing.
I'm not convinced by this narrative. I had PTSD and was on a low but long term clonazapam script; I tritrated down over the course of several months. Worked for me. However, Tom Petty had a breakdown after his divorce from wife no. 1, got on heroin, was contractually obligated to finish an album and go on tour; having as much if not more $ than Peterson he had himself put into an induced coma in the States and got on with his life. I saw no evidence of brain damage; quite the contrary. Why Russia? Peterson could have done it in Canada if he were willing to pay for it. He's a drama queen.
He was always a hack fraud, but now he can't even try to hide it anymore.
Or he realises he doesn't Have to try and hide it anymore.
It's becoming more and more clear that the right wing will eat up fuckin' anything.
That's because as soon as other grifters began to copy his talking points while delivering them in a more accessible way to his target audience of teenagers and fresh divorcees, people noticed that he's actually wrapping very banal concepts with an unnecessarily academic cadence.
Jordan Peterson so badly wanted to be the conservative version of Noam Chomsky, but alas, Jordan Peterson is no Noam Chomsky, although Chomsky is far from perfect.
@@youtubeviolatedme7123he doesn’t have talking points. His whole grift is talking in circles, never taking a position, and never making a point.
Boys, dont ask a woman for her number. Say hello, break the ice a little and offer your number and to hangout or something sometime. This puts both people in a less awkward position. Ideally, you're not rejected to your face, and shes not in the ultimate shit position of making her mind up right then. She can take your number and just not hitnyou back, nbd. But dont offer until you've had at least a few words exchanged, unless its mutually understandable that there isnt time for conversation in the moment, but you want to show interest.
I think the hardest part for the zoomer generation is figuring out how to talk to people like normal in the first place. A lot of them grew up in relative isolation screaming at people over call of duty. There almost needs to be a societal solution to make young boys socialize more. I think this is where the incel problem mostly stems from amongst gen z in general
This is great advice
This is good advice for the uglies. I'm so beautiful women give me their number and undergarments if I ask for them on the spot all the time everytime.
/ I'm joking
@@zenbear9952Preach. During the easiest time to make friends, I had a binary, simple and absolutely stupid game plan: get home and play games.
It hurts me in hindsight, but all I did was return to my isolation voluntarily.
Worst part was: i had good friends, it was simply that I rarely even asked them to do anything, never initated anything big. No surprise i'm working off that social debt now.
If you're trying to put yourself out there to random new people, then yeah, that's the much better way of doing it!
Anyone at this point who’s defending Jordan obviously doesn’t see his Twitter BS.
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Vaush got one thing wrong. Chivalry was NOT extended to ALL women. It was only offered to Noble Women. If you were a peasant women, a chivalrous knight would just as likely kick you into a ditch if you were in their way.
yup. But what do you expect from a guy whose training is exclusively clinical psychology and then sets himself up as a word salad pundit on everything under the sun he knows nothing about.
Before I knew who JP was, I bought one of his mainstream books on Audible and gave it a listen. I found his ideas to be so stupid and nonsensical that I returned it and got my credit back. I wasn't even aware that he was most hated and I hated him on my own based on his own writings. EW, JP!!!
You mean 12 Rules? Was that the one you got?
@@kyrtuck probably “maps of meaning“. That book is abysmal. It basically reads like the ramblings of a mental patient during an intensive psychotherapy session.
No matter how many clips of Jordan Peterson I see , I always get surprised by how much he sounds like Kermit the Frog
He was actually a voice actor prior to being a psychiatrist.
A vary sad Kermit the frog
@@sebastiencarrieres8825 Peterson? Has not now nor ever been a psychiatrist. That would require rigorous medical training and about 12 more years of university than he ever did.
People who don't like JP are people that play video games all day and think tik tok is the best invention ever.
@@JuliusTurner-hm6ff That hasn't been my experience, buddy
I love when psychologists say they don't understand women.
especially when they have been married to a woman and have a daughter.
A woman I dated once said to me ''How can you understand women when we cannot understand ourselves ?'''.
In the lecture, why is JP citing Huckleberry Finn as an example of human behavior? Homie, Huckleberry Finn isn't real. He's a character invented by Mark Twain. The only psychological insights you can get from Huckleberry Finn are into Mark Twain's dead brain.
Well according to JP's world view what Mark Twain wrote is obviously a manifestation of the divine word of god.Considering that he thinks quitting smoking is a manifestation of divinity, writing a novel also qualifies. His brain is plum pudding.
I just realized that this is just a slightly less insane version of the conspiracy theory mindset that movies are secret messages from the elites
JP constantly plays fast and loose with sources, regularly throwing actual scientific research and imaginative fiction together into the same pot of intellectual stew. Crime and Punishment may be a fine novel, but it isn‘t a statement of fact, and yet JP claims it is.
Its some kinda Jung shit. Stories are more true than reality, or something.
Sure, we can learn things from stories, but he attaches a magical, prophetic sort of quality to them, including to stories that were never meant to be anything other than entertainment.
@@paulsmart4672 The trouble is that when it comes to plot points - like in "Pinocchio" and other favorites of Peterson's - it's likely that the classic elements and "hero's journey" bits get added to improve the story and fit into a certain genre. Maybe the editor insisted! When Peterson then takes such a story and tries to demonstrate eternal truths with it, he's just making circular arguments.
"It is very difficult to negotiate if you're not in a position to say no" -Jordan Peterson (so could this also apply to powerful men having their way with women under them in their work environment)
Jordan peterson is like if someone asked chatgpt to imitate carl jung
Oh my gods that exactly how he sounds like. XD
** in a Kermit the frog voice
He's literally lost his Way. He's broken his Dao-heart.
You can't talk about slaying dragons and then go to a quack to skip the hard part of getting sober.
He can't tell himself the lies about himself he used to, and it broke him.
he literally slayed the dragon of opioid addiction, one of the hardest addictions to recover from.
@@randomkyle3 People cope with and recover from addiction in different ways, but a "wake me up when it's over" method isn't what I'd describe as slaying the dragon. Also, he just seems like he's addicted to some other substance these days.
@randomkyle3 you mean benzodiazepines? I beat both of those dragons, that doesn't make me a hero or qualified to life coach anyone.
@@randomkyle3 By putting himself into a coma and probably causing irreparable brain damage because he couldn't work through it like everyone else has to?
he almost died, i dont like the guy but this is a bad take addiction is incredibly difficult and anyone who gets sober in any way has done an extremely hard thing, thats like saying opioid addicts who use methadone are taking the easy way out
It should be obvious, women are people too, and apart from sexuality women have pretty much the same worries and living life the way you do.
I love the vibes of this stream. All of the 15-18 year old boys in chat who have never even hugged a girl (me) listening to Vaush explain basic dating advice to them is really entertaining.
I tried to like and find JP interesting back in the day, but he just said a whole bunch of nothing and the comments were filled with conservative and incel knuckleheads. It was very off putting. I tried to look past his religiosity, Jung was religious, but he was so anti-feminist it was impossible. Then I realized he was a hack
I was a lonely young man and desperate but not THAT desperate
His speeches helped me a lot in a difficult time of my life. However, being a historical nerd more that a psychological one, when I saw his interview about the Russo -ukrainian war and it was about wokeness and that Putin was right made me turn away immediately. Whatever your position is you cannot ignore the centuries of history between the two nations when analyse it. He was so certain about something he didn't understand that made me think about what else he was wrong about.
yeah, ikr peterson's stuff just seems like nothing burgers
Btw if anyone's curious about why Vaush said "look at me, look at me, I'm Hitler!", it's from a YTP made by Very Tall Bart. If you haven't seen his videos yet, you really should! Funny as fuck, talented sentence mixing, yada yada he's based & all that
I saw the YTP before this so I was honestly surprised, I was like "Hey he's doing that same pose thing, and- wait, he *didn't* say Hitler?"
JP's fashion sense is "postmodern" in the dumb ignorant sense he uses the word.
I just checked, and I was actually still subscribed from 2017 or so. Lol!!
Haven't watched him in years. Transitioned, got REAL therapy, started actually watching and reading news (AP,Reuters,Frontline) and, unsurprisingly, moved left.
I have a feeling a lot of his subs are like me. They don't even realize they're still subscribed to that guy.
Completely moved on.
cool story bro
I wonder how is it. As incoherent as he is now, JP doesn’t strike me as having the ability to attract new fans. If he did, it would be from as recommendations from other at-right groups who still cling to their old idea of JP. Meanwhile there are the people who moved on from Peterson, and the ones who stubbornly put their feet in the ground, and therefore became more rabid in his defense of him.
People were groomed into antagonistic gender relations, and given that men already have bad socialization skills, the dating scene is basically trench warfare.
Advice learn to friend first, in general, and also learn to drop it after 'friendzone' so you have a new friend who happens to be hot. But you need emotional regulation to achieve the later.
Having female friends is the best way to meet other women
@@markbaker4425 This is entirely true.
If you have lady friends, you signal that you're not a creep, you get to know women better in general, they'll introduce you to more mixed-gender spaces and to their own lady friends, etc.
Hells, if you're cool enough they might even try to hook you up with a friend of theirs. Legit happened to me! XD
A psychologist friend of mine once said that Peterson's understanding of psychology is so poor and outdated that it'd be like if a doctor from the 19th century appeared today and talked about women's vapors interfering with their ovaries. Jordan is not only cooked but poorly educated. Remember, he was found unfit to practice psychology both for ethical concerns and no longer being academically qualified. In his lectures he constantly cited outdated theories and very debunked ideas that haven't been relevant since the 80s, 70s and even 60s. Anyone that took his classes deserves a refund. 😊
Nobody is normal, some people just work harder to hide their weirdness. Those ones aren't to be trusted.
As a woman, I do not want random men asking me for my phone number. It is very intimidating and very uncomfortable
It's not the best approach, but dealing with people trying to start conversations you want no part of is part of living in society.
Exactly. I am a very confident person but a random guy coming up to me and trying to get my phone number after 30 seconds or whatever would absolutely turn me off.
Memorize the number to the morgue?
Recently I showed interest in two women. One just said no when I asked her out, and I thanked her for setting me straight. The other started getting nasty to me randomly as I showed more interest. I much prefer being treated as an adult. @@TheDesertRat31
And it''s very uncomfortable for men approaching women. Men need to be grateful when women are candid about disinterest and women need to be comfortable being candid.
I was greeted by his face on a billboard last weekend (Florida moment)… apparently he’s going on tour
I hope it’s a de tour.
Essentially what Vaush is saying is people have to practice at socialising and establishing connections with people outside of their comfort zone. Running up to random women and asking for their phone numbers isn’t learning how to socialise; in this context it becomes antisocial behaviour more than anything. Which is the antithesis of what you set out to achieve. This might help overcome a fear off rejection, but it could also very easily reinforce negative self-perceptions.
Was he lecturing a class in that second video? My major was biology, so I didn't really find myself in too many psych classes, but I've never had a professor stand up in front of the class and unleash a torrent of cognitive diarrhea like that. At very least they would pause occasionally to allow people to ask questions. Peterson is just monologuing and treating his students like a captive audience.
Well, you see, he's very important.
I hate to imagine what his exams are like.
JP was never that great but that rehab coma for sure scrambled his shit
I used to be a Jordan Peterson fan, back when his brain was more put together. He wasn't coherent politically, but he was a pretty smart and charismatic guy. He had a MASSIVE cognitive decline after his benzos coma. I'm glad voosh pulled me out of that space
The Uni lecture video Vaush plays around 9 minutes in is Peterson before Benzo’s, no ??
I agree he doesn’t sound politically coherent, but neither does he sound smart or seem charismatic. He just seems to me like a slightly eccentric, unhealthy looking guy who dresses up mundane, obvious stuff in psuedo intellectual word salad.
He was never smart my dude. His idea of serious self help was "clean your room ." That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with ...
@@ThompsonFlash9999 You can take a lot of self-help advice and reduce it down to trivially simple things like that. Pretending like he was always dumb lets you miss out on understanding how he was able to convince so many people to his side, I think
@@thaenaa oh, no, I know how. Think about how dumb the average person is. Now realize that half the people in the world are dumber. It was never the intelligent falling for any of these self help gurus who tell you thinks like "well, if you want to do something, you have to start it!" Yeah, no sheet Dumbo, lol
@@thaenaa other reply got automodded. Nah, I know how he got so popular. Bigotry. Straight up. That was his rise to fame, his lies about Canada's bill c16 or whatever it was. That was got him fame. As for why people fell for it besides the bigotry? Think of how dumb the average person is. Now realize that half the world is dumber...
"Women are not RPG monsters" may be the single most hilarious statement I have ever heard.
I saw a Jordan Peterson interview on Vice a few years ago, & the fact anyone could take this quack seriously is beyond comprehension. 🤦🏿♂️
I lived close to Toronto when he started gaining traction. He's bat sh#$+ crazy. Proposed a hit list for professors he felt were too left while he was at U of T. Had to back down after the backlash from proposing a hit list. Professor who recommended U of T hire him, published an open letter in the Toronto Star expressing his regret for doing that and begging JP to stop. Newspaper reporter followed him around for a day to talk and get the 'life of the rising star' sort of piece. Messainic complex from a religious nutbar was the result.
@@Jack908ralmost nothing worse than a charlatan with a Messiah complex
"Washed up" would imply he ever had anything to contribute in the first place
More like "Vaushed up" amirite? No? Okay, I'll see myself out.
no, not even slightly@@youtubeviolatedme7123
I firmly believe that after he got eaten alive in the debate with Matt Dillahunty, he was broken and that quickstarted his downfall
That was one of the worst debate performances I have ever seen from an academic. Matt’s a tough opponent but I didn’t expect JP to punch himself in the face like that
@@MrMerve-tl9my When was that debate?
@@galaxyocicat5660 idk but it’s probably the only one with Matt and JP
I love that he fails to care about the impact that's going to have on women. A rando guy coming up to me to just straight up ask for my phone number (because I'm just a prop) would be creepy and a little frightening. If you have a history of DV/SA/stalking, outright triggering.
Jordan Peterson does not seem to think much of women. He views them as some kind of monolith as well as some kind of villain. I saw a documentary, I should say clips of a documentary on his rise to fame, and the way he talks to his wife and treats her is pretty pathetic. He’s like a edge lord teenager ranting and raving as she feeds him and cleans up after him.
Jordan Peterson lectures get a lot more funny if you imagine Kermit the Frog giving them, and instead of women in general he's talking about Miss Piggy.
My husband always saw me as an individual. When we first got together he absolutely saw me as an individual.
Negotiating a raise now
“I need more money”
“It’s not in our budget”
“Then I’ll leave.”
“Ok. We will hire someone who costs even less than you do now”
Up yours, woke Vaushites. We'll see who cancels who.
I understood that reference. XD
🤣 lmao
if i had jp as a professor, i would always have this confused, slightly ill look on my face every time he yapped during class. i would not be able to stomach it
yes, i watched the whole video
I also watched the whole video in 4 minutes.
Elliot Page destroyed this man by doing and saying absolutely nothing.
You cannot be rejected when you truly accept yourself
I studied psychology with an emphasis in evolutionary psychology in college. Jordan Peterson makes the field look like a clown show. Even to this day I seek out evpsych articles on different things to have that deeper understanding of it. I actually think JP is harming the field. When I tell people about it now, I ALWAYS have to be at least somewhat defensive like “it’s not like that” because everyone has this negative perception of it. On the flip side, if someone knows about it through JP and likes the idea of it, they immediately back off when they realize all evpsych does is point to a more socialist/progressive way of society and providing more money to lower SES neighborhoods, and pro choice. But we don’t hear JP talk about that.
call it "adaptative psychology" even if the adaptations in question are quite outdated from savannah times.
Turns out becoming a right wing talking head is bad for one's health. It's like Black Speech in LOTR in that one becomes a twisted, hateful creature the more they speak it.
Jordan is an academic fool.
Even academia wants nothing to do with Jordie at this point.
Jordan Peterson can’t read and neither can I
Grats. You are now an intellectual.
What’s up feminem
I love your pfp lmao
@@SarastistheSerpent Photoshop was a gift that should not have been given to me
Random women on the street are not your exposure therapy. Women are also receptive to conversations. We enjoy being approached nicely and NORMALLY. JP doesn't teach men how to be normal.
Wait so what about all the women who post on TikTok about how they don’t wanna be approached by men at all.
@Jordan_99 key word was normal. Is it time and place for conversation? Or is she in the middle of doing something.
@@dellarae the point is it depends on woman to woman, depends if she finds the man attractive or not. These “rules” aren’t really rules when they’re broken for certain people.
@@Jordan_99 ok keep living in your feat of women bubble. Good luck not talking to anyone ever.
@@dellarae so you’re brain dead lol. I’m not saying I do this, I’m saying this sends mixed messages to the younger generation who think the opinions of a few applies across the board.
Justin Bieber is the better Canadian
😂😂😂
Tom Green! ❤❤
Imagine going into a ton of student debt to study psychology and then Jordan Peterson turns up to the classroom and starts yapping about chaos dragons
I knew someone who went to uoft and apparently his students would lock him out of his lecture hall and shit lol.
Fuck chivalry. Chivalry is a ye olde warfare term that translates to "a grace given to the weaker force". Don't ever be chivalrous, be a gentleman.
But it kind of sounds cool because it reminds me of Arthurian romance
@@xuxuang8574 My sincere hope is that you keep to the wholesome elements of that fantasy and stay away from the bigoted gender ownership/control of the time.
@@Gradgar there's nothing sexier than being made property /s
19:58 Vaush nailed it, a married woman, this still applies: Al you have to do, to have a better relationship with women, is to interact with them without the ASSUMPTION that it's going to lead to anything sexual or romantic. (Always hoping for a score is very legible in body language and behavior, women want meaning over being your score/tool.)
LOL JP is 100% a grifter. Hes insane too, but hes absolutely someone who grifts now full time.
Jordan Peterson is Hannibal Lecter without the smarts, but double the crazy! That's why republicans love him so much!
The late great Hannibal Lectern. Wonderful guy.
I rather like Jordan Peterson….
Sadly, he happens to be a bit crazy too. And he is really misogynistic.
@@jonathanclarkson7379 yeah…. They are all crazy.
Everything vaush said about knowing women is true, my friend group through high school was nearly all women and to be honest I prefer being around them now. I was attracted to nearly all of them around my age though, but we all autistic and most of them were lesbians sadge
My family is large, mostly women actually, 11 aunts, 2 uncles.
My mom had 8 sisters and only 2 brothers.
Most are gone sadly, I miss them dearly.
I was raised with one younger brother and one older sister, by our single mom after our dad passed when I was a baby.
I was raised by women only most of my life!!
So I only knew how to talk to women!
There were very few men in the family even giving me advice except my grandpa, and it wasn't much, it was mostly grandma..
and I'm a "cis straight male" who only likes girls and gets turned in just by seeing a girl something sexy...
I can't control it...
It just happens.
Not to mention they were the ones who taught me how to work hard and "be a man" and especially how to treat women...
I really don't understand where these conservatives get the idea that being raised by women makes you weak or gay...
Completely ignoring how body builders, husbands, and strongman competition winners who were raised by women, will break in half people like JP for talking about their mothers the way he does.....😂
Peterson is a product of his upbringing in small town Alberta, the most right wing, conservative part of the most right wing, conservative province of Canada.
I reject jordan petersons teachings not cause he;s a fascist, but because I DO have a relationship with the ultimate woman, she is perfect, and no-one alive could imagine a better person than her, I love her so fucking much
interesting take for a marxist
Voosh calling anyone else washed up is hilarious.
Jordan peterson dresses like Harry du bois from disco elysium lmao
He unironically seems like a character from the game
This is some pickup artist shit. It’s not about getting over your fear of rejection. That’s a good thing. They want you to be callous to rejection. You’ve had it happen so many times it loses meaning, not just getting over the fear of it. If the point was just getting over it, they’d say just go talk to 50 women.
Wow, so when a guy sees a pretty girl, sometimes he'll show off to get her attention? Wow, BRILLIANT observation Jordan, I never could have known that when I was in FREAKING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I won't tolerate such slander of the GDI supreme leader.
Nod must acquire new lands
Legitimately sad. I still maintain that he started out pretty okay and then went off the deep end as an extreme overreaction to criticisms from the left.
It feels like an older family member that you used to be close to went down the q-anon rabbit hole Lmao
cant believe anyone takes jordy ping-pongson seriously
He’s not washed up. He’s been a hack his entire career.
I got tired of jordan peterson when he started bible smuggling. I get approached by women who initiate, once in a while. The last time, I was late for a meeting; she said "Hi!" as we crossed paths on the sidewalk, and she was cute, but dummy me was worried about the meeting and I mumbled, "hey" and kept going. Probably hurt her feelings and it was just three minutes to late.
I negotiated my raise last year! They offered me a 6% raise and I told them straight up "I don't think that's enough to match the performance and skills I am providing this company". One week later they came back and gave me a 11% raise. One month later they gave me another 4% raise. 8 months later, I got a 17% raise.
Cool story
Just saying...negotiating your raise isn't impossible.
That silly jacket and jeans combo may look weird to us but its pretty common in the Shivering Isles.
JP is the only who gets what Pinocchio is going through, man! *starts weeping*
Jesus Christ how was he a professor? That class was abusive.
Middle brows who work really hard at being clever like Jordan Peterson are a real problem.
Kermit the Frog really took Jim Henson's death hard.....
Jordan Peterson prefers useless resource gathering quests to quests with a narrative
Lol sandbox dragon
Jordon Peterson: The only human on Earth that can make Dragons sound uncool.
I can't listen to vaush talk about social interaction. It just makes me feel miserable about how lonely I am. No matter how many years I've tried to learn social skills and get along with people nobody accepts me or wants to be around me. Even sadder is, even with how much of a loser I am, this point in my life is the happiest I've ever been.
It hurts to see people in chat and in real life hate me call me a creep or loser or whatever, and not even because I'm doing anything wrong or harmful, but because my stupid mental illnesses and disabilities make me unable to connect to other people. I don't really get it. Why am I seen as unwanted as a friend even though I break my brain and body every day trying to behave like they can without effort. Why can they always tell but I never can
Sad to hear that you feel lonely in comparison to vaush and his community. But if you are happier now, then it doesn't matter what somebody else might think.
I'm not a super socially intelligent guy, but moderately successfull. Everyone is worried about coming off as an idiot, some to a lesser degree and vice versa. I don't know you, but the only advice I would given either way is to keep trying and be genuine. And to kot stress out too much about fitting in.
What motivated Jordan Peterson to travel to Russia in order to undergo a voluntary, medically-induced coma was his addiction to Benzodiazepines. This was an act of desperation, a last-ditch gamble to spare himself from the agony of Benzodiazepine withdrawal. I know exactly what he feared, because I suffered through that withdrawal experience myself, after taking a minimal, surgeon-prescribed dose of Ativan daily for a year. I tapered down gradually to a fraction of that dose over a period of a month, and then stopped taking it completely. I had daily panic attacks for over a week after that, but I was determined not to give in to my addiction. It took six months for the sporatic panic attacks to cease, and over a year to fully recover. That is what compelled Jordan Peterson to gamble his life on a risky, medically-induced coma.
Any man on a dating app should create a female analogue of their profile, but with no pictures, no bio, and nickname only.
Then see how much your inbox gets spammed.
I think he's great at helping those in really depressed states and have no direction in life...I think he went wrong when he became a sort of political figure which is more centered around his ego and makes him come off like a real arse
Dillahunty did this to him
I always assumed he was stood up for prom or some other high school trauma and has spent a life trying to deal with it.