I love the idea that joss whedon and zack snyder's justice league movies both take place in the same universe. Like, chronologically. It all just happened again.
Yeah those newer jokes from 2 years ago were so bad. Even corn of coblin wasn’t great when all the nerds in the comments kept spamming it. Easily the worst ones were S: friends we made along the way (was never funny), blue harvest A: mephisto/John k, rodney B: one of the movies of all time C: Michael Joseph Jackson The good ones were Green trivia, joker, spooky taxes etc But the new fans from 2018 onwards are so embarrassing trying to make ‘jokes’ in these comments. They’ll never be funny. - John krasinski, probably
I believe if you listen far enough back on the Weekly Planet you will realize Mason has been advocating for a movie that hides/lies about its genre for years, and that is beautiful.
@@twiggydegree1419My biggest problem with the Killing Joke movie was the first 30 minutes because the Batgirl stuff was terrible and we don’t talk about what she did with Batman but if you do what I do and Skip the first 30 of the movie then the Killing Joke was great.
@@CoolIguess5it’s a fine enough recreation. However, all of the nuance is missing. Instead of Harvey’s two faces being split by the cell bars, representing the duality of Batman/ Joker (with Harvey being a little like both), we get him reaching for his coin. Gordon even looks back at him with a somber face. In the movie version, he and Batman just waltz past him. Also, in the comic, there’s a sign at the front desk of Arkham that says “you don’t have to be crazy, but it sure helps!”, an obvious reference to Batman himself, while also being funny in its own right. In the movie it’s not there. Just a couple examples
Tyler Hoechlin (spelling?) was pretty nice in “Superman and Lois”. Very earnest. Had the great bit about how his mom made his costume (that looks like the one from the 1940’s Fleischer films).
Now, I personally chose to believe Laurence intentionally used footage from Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, a movie that is in fact not connected to Batman the Animated Series, or Justice League the Animated Series, because he knew nerds like me would notice! Haha, well played! Or it was faster and easier to grab one movie than to have to download or buy several episodes of several different TV shows. I totally get that.
Well in fairness the movie was SUPPOSED to be a DCAU film and largely the script stayed similar enough from that version that it can kinda still fit in, so it still works in a technicality
Arkham verse S for sure, completely revolutionised combat in games and perfectly balanced being the Batman whilst also having good story driven games. Also the games have loads of lore and Easter eggs which fleshes out characters and creates a strong foundation for some lesser known characters. Nothing short of legendary
I'm currently 3 episodes away from finishing Smallville, and I have to say I've really been enjoying it. Definitely some solid portrayals from the actors, and I now understand why people say Michael is their favourite Lex.
Mostly loved Smallville ( I have been doing the rewatch on the Talkville channel ) its main issue is that it was a 22 episode season show and so there is alot of filler episodes.
One universe that wasn’t on the list but I think deserves a mention is Batman Brave and the Bold cartoon. It uses Batman as a springboard to introduce and explore tons of obscure superheroes and it was what got me into the DC universe outside of the A listers
@loganwendingo937 I do enjoy its method of introducing people to the greater DC than Harley Quinn’s way of doing it. But that’s just because I don’t like Harley post original Batman TAS.
Yeah nothing else DC Audio/Visual has done in recent history really comes close to the original Batman Animated series. It has consistent tone and style, and characters that humanize their positions and make sense. I rewatched it a couple months back, and it holds up just as good as ever.... And that's a long time to stay relevant.
Maso is so right I do kind of wish they had baited us into thinking the joker sequel would be just like the first and then suddenly every single audience member would be confronted with it being a musical
The Batman: Arkham games are such a good series, Asylum and City released in the early years of when I went Batman crazy and just read everything about Batman lore. City for me brings me nostalgia because I was so blown away by an open world Batman game, and watching video after video of all the details and fun inclusion I missed.
I feel that with the DC animated movies, particularly the ones not connected to a greater continuity, they aren't the best at visually representing the styles of the comics they're adapting (New Frontier, Gotham by Gaslight, Killing Joke, et cetera). It's sort of an odd mix of half-faithful and half-modern stylization that never commits to one or the other. However, I do like the way Long Halloween was adapted with an entirely different style that merely took inspiration from the original's tone and direction.
Still I would rather individual animated adaptations than say poor adaptation of a great comic within animated universe I don’t particularly care for like Batman Hush. Honestly I wish Marvel would animate some of their best comics like Kraven’s Last Hunt or My Life as a Weapon.
Regarding the Christopher Reeve universe ranking, I'd say it should be split by putting Richard Donner's version in S, the theatrical versions in C, Burton's Batman in A, and Schumacher in D.
Loving the vids. You guys should do a series on "mid to late 90s internet / technology themed films" such as Hackers, Jonny Mnemonic, Lawnmower Man etc
Agreed, their rating of the New 52 was SUPER harsh considering there was a lot of good runs that came out of it - Batman, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Batman and Robin, Swamp Thing and Animal Man were amazing; and JL, Batgirl and Aquaman were not as innovative as those but fun and super popular. And speaking of popular, it was a pretty successful reboot, and probably would've been much better in the long term if a lot of the launch wasn't super rushed. Still, New 52 was a LOT of people's jumping-on point, creating a huge number of new comic book readers, for which alone I personally wouldn't possibly rank it below a C.
This has to be the kost disjointed, barely though out and random group of categories and tier list that they have made. 10/10 content, truly a masterpiece
Hard agree. Even if you love Snyder’s justice league, Man of Steel is too average and uneven to really care about in mind like, and Batman v Superman is just so awful. It’s a C at best for me, more realistically it’s a D
In Gotham, penguin realises he has feelings for riddler while he’s helping him run for mayor but riddler doesn’t reciprocate so they become enemies again
DC Animated Universe is fairly consistently amazing, storywise and actionwise. They have an advantage over live-action in that they don't need to secure an enormous budget to bring in some A-list stars for a film to have any chance of success, but nonetheless, they consistently create some amazing masterpieces with DC storylines and characters they have on hand.
Funny thing is, the live action movies also don’t need an enormous budget or A-list actors but they can’t fucking help themselves. Marvel has been shooting itself in the foot repeatedly cause they absolutely refuse to focus on street level every day heroes.
Yeah, I think both MCU and DCU are at the weird place right now, competing to release some of the worst live-action features and shows of the year. Luckily, this situation doesn't involve DCAU at all :)
Harley Quinn, the series where all the heroes and villains are popstars and the carnage amongst the civilians is socially tolerated. You know, like real life.
I think my problem with the Harley is that it kinda treats the audience as newbie simpletons up and including “Wow Batgirl isn’t cool? She should get more love” (but won’t) that and just using Harley to introduce the entire DCU.
The DCAU to me is still unparalleled as far as adaptations go. I wish we got some Caravan of Garbage episodes on it. Also, to plug another channel, DCAU Watchtower is a must follow for any fans of the universe.
The most frustrating part of this is how many of this separate universes then branch off into other stuff-Josstic Weague vs Zustice Sneague, etc.-or how many of them both are and aren't part of the same universe, like Schumacher is and isn't part of Burton, which also includes the Reeves movies but those are also part of the Arrowverse maybe or wait it's in the Flash? but that's the multiverse but it's the same multiverse from Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths even though one of them is just a bunch of floating balls? My head hurts
Well, the Snyder Verse is Man of Steel, BVS, WW, SS, ZSJL, Aquaman. The Whedon Verse is JL and everything going forward (Aquaman is an outlier because it released a month after Justice League. It was basically on course to be finished with Zacks but... So, the Crisis included all the different universes, even the Cinematic universe. The multiverse as represented as a visual in the Flash movie as "worlds" because of the director's choice. the representation on TV is very different because of budget and lack of imagination.
The young justice universe is an S tier!!!! The character writing is so amazing and it’s literally all of these younger side kicks growing up and taking the mantle from their predecessors! Amazing story writing and it’s for sure worth the watch if you like dc in general
Without scrolling through every comment, I can only assume and hope this video ushers in the return of the famed "H8 mail but the hate has an eight in it" segment on the podcast
'Are The Riddler and The Penguin in love on Gotham?' Ah, the question that got me suffering through s1 of Gotham before realising there just weren't any other redeeming qualities of the show- luckily some darling had put all their clips together on UA-cam, so I watched that instead, made 5,000 words of notes, and then wrote an essay for uni about their relationship through the lens of a dysfunctional marriage. It got pretty good grades, too 😆
Brandon Routh’s Superman returns is genuinely the best Superman movie. It also has such a unique vibe and look that I can’t describe. Because it looks plain but looks so bright and the lighting is so interesting. I love it. However fuck Bryan singer and Kevin spacey
Just wanted to say that my personal favourite is the dcamu (JL war - Apokolips war) I've binged the entire thing the whole way through multiple times, the overall design I love. And most of all it contains my favourite batman of all, Jason O'mara. Some of those films are legit some of my favourites, not just animated, but all. I could go on and talk for hours, but that's undeeded😂 (I might need to go watch a few after this😅)
I'll always be a New 52 defender. It made me read more DC than just Batman and Green Lantern. I have the entire New 52 Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman runs. I'd like to the lot eventually. The fact it is a completed 5 year run makes it even nore appealing to me as something to read and collect.
I can’t stand Damian tho and that universe loves him so much, massive caveat for me. Marvel should definitely follow DC’s example and make more animated adaptations.
I agree with Mason that leaving the fact that Joker 2 was a musical a secret until opening night would’ve been funny, because I didn’t know it was until he said it and now I’m disappointed I didn’t walk into a theater on opening night and found out I was watching a musical as I was watching said musical
It was confirmed that none of the same Justice League actors from the DCEU are coming back for the DCU, so Bats, Supes, WW, Flash, and Aquaman are being recast. I think the new DCU doesn’t deserve the ill will of The Flash’s ending.
The whole thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth going forward though and I’m not really looking forward to the Son of Batman movie when we haven’t even gotten a decent live action Dick Grayson yet.
@@li-limandragon9287 Shoot, sorry I didn’t see this 2 months ago. With Gunn himself saying the “Batfamily” will be in the DCU, the only other member that’s pretty much guaranteed to appear alongside Damien is Dick Grayson. The new universe is 95% a clean slate, with only Peacemaker, Waller and Blue Beetle being kept (which isn’t too bad because they’re smaller side characters). The DCEU had its highs and lows, but I am SO much more hopeful for Gunn & Safran’s DCU because Gunn’s earned my trust as a reliably high-quality comic book storyteller. The respect they’ve been paying to the comics’ actual creators is very hopeful to me personally. Sorry you’re not as hopeful for it as I am, but I totally get that too. Either way, the projects will hopefully speak for themselves!
@@li-limandragon9287 Its a plot season for a CW show. Many of season 1 is freak of the week. Season 3 and 4 are really good. We see Lois Lane come in at 4 and shes a really good Lois. When he heads to Metropolis and works at the planet its pretty good too. Takes a while to get there but its worth it.
The only S universe for me is is the DC Animated Universe. The Snyder stuff is an F. I was thinking D but then I remembered the scene where Luther put that piece of candy in that guy's mouth. Wtf.
18:47 Totally this, and this also extends to animation. So many people seem to only think something counts as "real art" if it's live action (which is weird considering comics and animation are quite literally artwork), which is part of why we keep getting these shitty live action remakes of animated movies. Animation STILL, for some reason, gets zero respect as a medium (personally I blame Hannah-Barbara).
If the DC characters crossed over with Watchmen, how did they react to the Watchmen's universe being half destroyed and being caused by one of their own and most of those guys covering it up?
The DC characters didn't really get to know shit about the Watchmen universe, and pretty much none of the story took place there. Dr. Manhattan went to the DCU after leaving the Watchmen one cause he saw it was full of hope, but a vision he had convinced him that there was gonna be a World War III over metahuman powers, followed by a confrontation between him and Superman, the outcome of which he couldn't see. So he started pulling strings which resulted in the New 52 universe, where a lot of heroes were younger and a lot of dead ones were alive again, cause Manhattan effectively wiped the Justice Society of America (the precursor of the JLA) from existence and took away 10 years from the continuity. Batman and Flash kinda find out about Manhattan through Reverse Flash fucking around, but not really. In Doomsday Clock, Ozymandias tracks down where Manhattan has gone and wants to bring him back to fix the fallout of Rorschach's journal exposing what he did. He goes to the DCU with Rorschach II, Mime and Marionette, the confrontation with Superman does happen, and I won't spoil it (the story's too long for a YT comment anyway), but I liked it, and Geoff Johns didn't try to change up the Watchmen universe too much anyway. He does leave a plot point in the Watchmen universe which could make for an interesting follow-up, though.
Having Batman and Wonder Woman is a plus but they weren’t introduced into the show in full costume to make the no tights Superman even more ridiculous so D++++++++ for me.
Ok, I know its been almost 2 years, but I dont remember you guys mentioning Batman Unburied on Spotify, not just in reference to this but generally, its quite a unique format for a comic book story and id be interested to see if anyone cares about it, I liked it personally, the cast is insane as well
2:54 As someone rewatching the show in 2023, Smallville doesn't really drop off until Season 9 and at that point, it's so close to ending, you can give it a pass.
I mostly agree with you on this one. Only complaint is you did Smallville dirty. WB is CW . None of the Arrowverse would exist without it. Superman and Lois withstanding, I rewatch Smallville over the Arrowverse every time. It may have strayed a tad at times, but it was consistently good over 10 years. It ran long because the fans wanted more. It deserves a soft A logically to maintain dominance over the lesserverve or a hard B to hold the line. Cheers guys. Thanks for the Sky Captain call out! I'll take the $$ for a like offer if it stands 😊
Remember that time you thought Frank Miller was Frank Darabont and you said, "isn't it funny how the Steven King adaptation guy has so many comic books" and everyone stared at you and then started laughing at you and called you a fraud? Not pleasant memory for me to drag back up my bad.
DCAU shouldn't definitely be A tier at least - quality storytelling and connecting of characters for a wider universe that nothing except the comics haver managed. a shoutout to the Young Justice universe as well as that was amazing
New monster for the dark universe…Dr.Rankinstuff and Rankinstuffs Monster, idk why that is what came to Mind when I heard you said “ranking stuff” in the episode lol
![MrSundayMovies trying to troll Nick Mason in "Guess the Movie by the SAVAGE Review" [Compilation]](/img/n.gif)
I can't believe they're locking Maso's opinions behind a paywall. What's next? 100s of hours of amazing bonus content? Disgusting
Its probably Doctor Manhattans fault
No snitches!
You can unlock Mason's opinions for free if you collect all 358 Mason Trophies.
Maso?
but do they give you a sandwich?
I love the idea that joss whedon and zack snyder's justice league movies both take place in the same universe. Like, chronologically. It all just happened again.
That's honestly hilarious 😂
This had me laughing out loud 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Flash moment
I'm actually amazed that James remembered to say "for Heath Ledger's performance alone". That joke was from like 2 years ago
He still brings it up on Caravan of Garbage occasionally, finds a way to work it in there lol
Yeah those newer jokes from 2 years ago were so bad.
Even corn of coblin wasn’t great when all the nerds in the comments kept spamming it. Easily the worst ones were
S: friends we made along the way (was never funny), blue harvest
A: mephisto/John k, rodney
B: one of the movies of all time
C: Michael Joseph Jackson
The good ones were
Green trivia, joker, spooky taxes etc
But the new fans from 2018 onwards are so embarrassing trying to make ‘jokes’ in these comments. They’ll never be funny.
- John krasinski, probably
@@Burner-td4cu green trivia is kind of funny
Michael Joseph Jackson
@@Burner-td4cuhow tf do you not like Rodney, it’s so specific and dumb it makes me Laugh. Peak absurdism
I believe if you listen far enough back on the Weekly Planet you will realize Mason has been advocating for a movie that hides/lies about its genre for years, and that is beautiful.
Was it his idea of having a movie that starts out really goofy, until the main characters find a head in a box and then it switches to super serious?
Realise*
@@Burner-td4cuBrit spotted
@@HumzaSaleem420yes absolutely was, such a great bit
@@Burner-td4cu People live in different places and spell things differently.
Any universe with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill is an instant S rank.
srank
Except for the killing joke movie
hell yeah, Kevin Conroy is peak batman for me
@@twiggydegree1419My biggest problem with the Killing Joke movie was the first 30 minutes because the Batgirl stuff was terrible and we don’t talk about what she did with Batman but if you do what I do and Skip the first 30 of the movie then the Killing Joke was great.
@@CoolIguess5it’s a fine enough recreation. However, all of the nuance is missing.
Instead of Harvey’s two faces being split by the cell bars, representing the duality of Batman/ Joker (with Harvey being a little like both), we get him reaching for his coin. Gordon even looks back at him with a somber face. In the movie version, he and Batman just waltz past him.
Also, in the comic, there’s a sign at the front desk of Arkham that says “you don’t have to be crazy, but it sure helps!”, an obvious reference to Batman himself, while also being funny in its own right. In the movie it’s not there. Just a couple examples
The smushing of all the universes for the sake of ranking is peak Mr Sunday Movies energy. Beautiful 👌
“Guy yelling Rodney’s” universe needs to be S-tier😤
RODNEYYYYYYY
That was Marvel but yes, 100%
I feel James made a lot more decisions concerning DC than he is admitting to.
Such as
@@nalday2534 I think he might secretly be running the whole company.
@@dylanmahaffey8920 “James” Clement, “James” Gunn! Coincidence?? I think NOT
Could it be? Bob Iger's son face to face with a dc string puller?
@@dylanmahaffey8920what makes you say that?
I agree with Maso "What if Superman but extra nice?"
tea party with darkseid
Tyler Hoechlin (spelling?) was pretty nice in “Superman and Lois”. Very earnest. Had the great bit about how his mom made his costume (that looks like the one from the 1940’s Fleischer films).
Superman and Lois is this superman story.
Now, I personally chose to believe Laurence intentionally used footage from Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, a movie that is in fact not connected to Batman the Animated Series, or Justice League the Animated Series, because he knew nerds like me would notice! Haha, well played!
Or it was faster and easier to grab one movie than to have to download or buy several episodes of several different TV shows. I totally get that.
Yeah I was like "uhhh that's the wrong footage pal" lmao
Yeah I think it was a weird choice. Looks like a genuine mistake but doesn't matter that much if you know what they're actually talking about
Well in fairness the movie was SUPPOSED to be a DCAU film and largely the script stayed similar enough from that version that it can kinda still fit in, so it still works in a technicality
Here for this discourse
@@dcauwatchtower I IMMEDIATELY thought "WTDB ain't gonna be happy about that one" lmao
DCAU at S-tier is S-tier placement. But you get bumped down to A-Tier for using so many "Crisis on Two Earths" clips during that segment. 😘
If only there was a UA-cam video that showed definately that there aren't in the same universe. Oh well, we can dream
If only someone had a series to determine if something is canon or something.
I like the “ugh” sound you made just mentioning the animated killing joke 😂
Arkham verse S for sure, completely revolutionised combat in games and perfectly balanced being the Batman whilst also having good story driven games. Also the games have loads of lore and Easter eggs which fleshes out characters and creates a strong foundation for some lesser known characters. Nothing short of legendary
So unique but respectful to the source material too
It’s gotta be A for Arkham tho
The combat kinda mid tho
But does it make you feel like batman?
@@k1llertoad the exaggerated swagger of a depressed 40 year old man
I'm currently 3 episodes away from finishing Smallville, and I have to say I've really been enjoying it. Definitely some solid portrayals from the actors, and I now understand why people say Michael is their favourite Lex.
It definitely was a journey
ironically Michael is my favorite Flash
Mostly loved Smallville ( I have been doing the rewatch on the Talkville channel ) its main issue is that it was a 22 episode season show and so there is alot of filler episodes.
@@mandrill81 yes!
Deserves better than a C rank. B is more where I say it belongs
One universe that wasn’t on the list but I think deserves a mention is Batman Brave and the Bold cartoon. It uses Batman as a springboard to introduce and explore tons of obscure superheroes and it was what got me into the DC universe outside of the A listers
Yeah it’s so fun and wacky, it’s basically a cartoon version of ‘66 (with an unlimited budget).
No other universe had the Music Meister so they’re all automatically F tier
@@jonasquinn7977Not true. Arrowverse had the Music Meister
@loganwendingo937
I do enjoy its method of introducing people to the greater DC than Harley Quinn’s way of doing it. But that’s just because I don’t like Harley post original Batman TAS.
They also did a great a job at fitting more modern concepts and characters like Bane, the Birds of Prey, Jaime Reyes into the more retro universe
DCAU is my favorite out of all of them.
The world building and story telling is so freaking good and revolutionized so many characters.
Yeah nothing else DC Audio/Visual has done in recent history really comes close to the original Batman Animated series. It has consistent tone and style, and characters that humanize their positions and make sense. I rewatched it a couple months back, and it holds up just as good as ever.... And that's a long time to stay relevant.
It also had Bruce Wayne and Barbara Gordon get together
Hear hear
@@alexanderguerrero347
Yes that’s what drags it down for me.
That and all Bruce Timm’s horniness.
@@alexanderguerrero347 it's a throwaway line in a Batman beyond episode.
Maso is so right I do kind of wish they had baited us into thinking the joker sequel would be just like the first and then suddenly every single audience member would be confronted with it being a musical
It would’ve been so great. Just jump scare everyone.
The Batman: Arkham games are such a good series, Asylum and City released in the early years of when I went Batman crazy and just read everything about Batman lore. City for me brings me nostalgia because I was so blown away by an open world Batman game, and watching video after video of all the details and fun inclusion I missed.
0:08 I believe Rankinstuff was the doctor, what you mean is you love Rankinstuffs monster (spookiest time of the yearnotjustalkinbloodytaxtime)
Great tier list, guys! safe to say you have pissed off everyone, 10/10!
Ohh this is nothing the Marvel universes tier list now that would stir some shit up.
You should do a ranking of Batman versions, but don't forget to include Twilight
I feel that with the DC animated movies, particularly the ones not connected to a greater continuity, they aren't the best at visually representing the styles of the comics they're adapting (New Frontier, Gotham by Gaslight, Killing Joke, et cetera). It's sort of an odd mix of half-faithful and half-modern stylization that never commits to one or the other. However, I do like the way Long Halloween was adapted with an entirely different style that merely took inspiration from the original's tone and direction.
Still I would rather individual animated adaptations than say poor adaptation of a great comic within animated universe I don’t particularly care for like Batman Hush.
Honestly I wish Marvel would animate some of their best comics like Kraven’s Last Hunt or My Life as a Weapon.
Can't believe the boys put the Snyderverse stuff so high, from their reviews I seriously wouldn't have been surprised with the E
Regarding the Christopher Reeve universe ranking, I'd say it should be split by putting Richard Donner's version in S, the theatrical versions in C, Burton's Batman in A, and Schumacher in D.
Loving the vids. You guys should do a series on "mid to late 90s internet / technology themed films" such as Hackers, Jonny Mnemonic, Lawnmower Man etc
New 52 was my first intro to “new” (non dollar bin) books… I loved the illustration style, and attention to each book being its own genre.
I do love Jim Lee’s art and enjoy the JL books. Not a big fan of the other choices though.
Agreed, their rating of the New 52 was SUPER harsh considering there was a lot of good runs that came out of it - Batman, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Batman and Robin, Swamp Thing and Animal Man were amazing; and JL, Batgirl and Aquaman were not as innovative as those but fun and super popular. And speaking of popular, it was a pretty successful reboot, and probably would've been much better in the long term if a lot of the launch wasn't super rushed.
Still, New 52 was a LOT of people's jumping-on point, creating a huge number of new comic book readers, for which alone I personally wouldn't possibly rank it below a C.
OG Teen Titans / Young Justice universe, A tier, good stuff
This has to be the kost disjointed, barely though out and random group of categories and tier list that they have made.
10/10 content, truly a masterpiece
Snyderverse being a B is soooo generous lol
Hard agree. Even if you love Snyder’s justice league, Man of Steel is too average and uneven to really care about in mind like, and Batman v Superman is just so awful.
It’s a C at best for me, more realistically it’s a D
Shout out and mad respect for the editors! Love you guys and you do great work!
In Gotham, penguin realises he has feelings for riddler while he’s helping him run for mayor but riddler doesn’t reciprocate so they become enemies again
Thank you for having the same opinion as me about Joker. And for calling Swamp Thing amazing. Love you guys.
There is no reality where batman '66 is not S++ tier.
You guys are always a highlight of my day. Thank you
DC Animated Universe is fairly consistently amazing, storywise and actionwise. They have an advantage over live-action in that they don't need to secure an enormous budget to bring in some A-list stars for a film to have any chance of success, but nonetheless, they consistently create some amazing masterpieces with DC storylines and characters they have on hand.
Seconded
Funny thing is, the live action movies also don’t need an enormous budget or A-list actors but they can’t fucking help themselves. Marvel has been shooting itself in the foot repeatedly cause they absolutely refuse to focus on street level every day heroes.
Yeah, I think both MCU and DCU are at the weird place right now, competing to release some of the worst live-action features and shows of the year. Luckily, this situation doesn't involve DCAU at all :)
@@TheWendo101Except Hawkeye, Spidey (especially Homecoming) and all the Netflix shows dude.
Harley Quinn, the series where all the heroes and villains are popstars and the carnage amongst the civilians is socially tolerated. You know, like real life.
I think my problem with the Harley is that it kinda treats the audience as newbie simpletons up and including “Wow Batgirl isn’t cool? She should get more love” (but won’t) that and just using Harley to introduce the entire DCU.
Shouldn't wolverine have metal teeth?
OH
No, teeth are technically not bones despite being made of calcium.
@@starwarsnerd100 Oh
@@lulubugs2752I heard someone stole John Wick's car & murder his dog
No because the adamantium was pumped into his body and teeth aren’t in body (technically they are but you know what I mean)
The DCAU to me is still unparalleled as far as adaptations go. I wish we got some Caravan of Garbage episodes on it.
Also, to plug another channel, DCAU Watchtower is a must follow for any fans of the universe.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the DCAMU that started with Flashpoint Paradox and ended with Justice League Dark Apokolips War!
They did, they lumped them together with the individual animated films.
The most frustrating part of this is how many of this separate universes then branch off into other stuff-Josstic Weague vs Zustice Sneague, etc.-or how many of them both are and aren't part of the same universe, like Schumacher is and isn't part of Burton, which also includes the Reeves movies but those are also part of the Arrowverse maybe or wait it's in the Flash? but that's the multiverse but it's the same multiverse from Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths even though one of them is just a bunch of floating balls? My head hurts
Well, the Snyder Verse is Man of Steel, BVS, WW, SS, ZSJL, Aquaman. The Whedon Verse is JL and everything going forward (Aquaman is an outlier because it released a month after Justice League. It was basically on course to be finished with Zacks but... So, the Crisis included all the different universes, even the Cinematic universe. The multiverse as represented as a visual in the Flash movie as "worlds" because of the director's choice. the representation on TV is very different because of budget and lack of imagination.
@@Samanosuke1138Aquaman was 2018 not 2017
@@Meme_Lor Sorry yeah. I was thinking of Thor 3, which released before JL2017. My bad.
HAPPY 500th WEEKLY PLANET EPISODE!
I'm just glad they ranked the insane Harley Quinnaverse at all and it wasn't a classic James fake-out.
The Batman and Joker in the same tier as the Synderverse is outrageous! Put the Synderverse in E tier where it belongs.
The young justice universe is an S tier!!!! The character writing is so amazing and it’s literally all of these younger side kicks growing up and taking the mantle from their predecessors! Amazing story writing and it’s for sure worth the watch if you like dc in general
Admit it, we all forgot about the Suicide Squad game.
"Im perfectly happy to put it in the A"
-Mr sunday movies bloke 2023
put it in H
Lawrence didn't beep out the swearing like you wanted, FIRED!
Awesome. I can't believe James didn't place the *Super Friends* on his list, but lol.
Without scrolling through every comment, I can only assume and hope this video ushers in the return of the famed "H8 mail but the hate has an eight in it" segment on the podcast
5:05 wise words Mason
I'm glad Harley Quinn animated is S tier because that's my personal favourite
Don’t like how just Rick and Morty everything tho.
Good video👍 delightful as always
They should really do all the rankin bass Christmas specials now
Boxy Boys is my favorite 80s synth pop project.
Who would’ve thought that Ben Affleck did such a good job that were actually upset that he didn’t his version of a solo movie.
Me
'Are The Riddler and The Penguin in love on Gotham?'
Ah, the question that got me suffering through s1 of Gotham before realising there just weren't any other redeeming qualities of the show- luckily some darling had put all their clips together on UA-cam, so I watched that instead, made 5,000 words of notes, and then wrote an essay for uni about their relationship through the lens of a dysfunctional marriage. It got pretty good grades, too 😆
I havent thought about gotham in a long time, all I remember is gordan voiced batman and riddler and penguin was a big ship
You missed out on several dozen characters dying only to be resurrected/replaced by their twin.
I watched all of it and everything after season 1 is great but I understand why you didn't bother considering season 1 has a lot of dull moments
I'm so glad maso's brain also went right to Rankin Bass
Brandon Routh’s Superman returns is genuinely the best Superman movie. It also has such a unique vibe and look that I can’t describe. Because it looks plain but looks so bright and the lighting is so interesting. I love it. However fuck Bryan singer and Kevin spacey
Nothing makes me happier than Mason happily putting Green Lantern and Jonah Hex in S tier 😂❤😂❤😂❤
You guys have got to check out My Adventures With Superman. A complete delight.
Just wanted to say that my personal favourite is the dcamu (JL war - Apokolips war) I've binged the entire thing the whole way through multiple times, the overall design I love.
And most of all it contains my favourite batman of all, Jason O'mara.
Some of those films are legit some of my favourites, not just animated, but all.
I could go on and talk for hours, but that's undeeded😂
(I might need to go watch a few after this😅)
Just a couple of absolute rankers
I'll always be a New 52 defender. It made me read more DC than just Batman and Green Lantern. I have the entire New 52 Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman runs. I'd like to the lot eventually. The fact it is a completed 5 year run makes it even nore appealing to me as something to read and collect.
The art and action is pretty damn cool too. Better than Ultimate Marvel imo.
3:20 "You should just put it in the thing, see what it does."
Archer: "Uh...phrasing?"
The animated movies with are really good I think the ones in the shared universe have great batman stuff and JL stuff and team ups at least an A.
I can’t stand Damian tho and that universe loves him so much, massive caveat for me.
Marvel should definitely follow DC’s example and make more animated adaptations.
I agree with Mason that leaving the fact that Joker 2 was a musical a secret until opening night would’ve been funny, because I didn’t know it was until he said it and now I’m disappointed I didn’t walk into a theater on opening night and found out I was watching a musical as I was watching said musical
This is all well and good, but where's the Radiohead album tier list? I know James has a lot of opinions to share.
It was confirmed that none of the same Justice League actors from the DCEU are coming back for the DCU, so Bats, Supes, WW, Flash, and Aquaman are being recast. I think the new DCU doesn’t deserve the ill will of The Flash’s ending.
The whole thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth going forward though and I’m not really looking forward to the Son of Batman movie when we haven’t even gotten a decent live action Dick Grayson yet.
@@li-limandragon9287 Shoot, sorry I didn’t see this 2 months ago. With Gunn himself saying the “Batfamily” will be in the DCU, the only other member that’s pretty much guaranteed to appear alongside Damien is Dick Grayson. The new universe is 95% a clean slate, with only Peacemaker, Waller and Blue Beetle being kept (which isn’t too bad because they’re smaller side characters). The DCEU had its highs and lows, but I am SO much more hopeful for Gunn & Safran’s DCU because Gunn’s earned my trust as a reliably high-quality comic book storyteller. The respect they’ve been paying to the comics’ actual creators is very hopeful to me personally. Sorry you’re not as hopeful for it as I am, but I totally get that too. Either way, the projects will hopefully speak for themselves!
Giving this video a like for Heath ledger's performance alone
Giving your comment about giving this video a like for Heath Ledger's performance alone a like for Heath Ledger's performance alone
Smallville is a great show! I have watched it through at least 5 times.
I couldn’t finish Season 1. I’ll probably circle back around at some point.
@@li-limandragon9287 Its a plot season for a CW show. Many of season 1 is freak of the week. Season 3 and 4 are really good. We see Lois Lane come in at 4 and shes a really good Lois.
When he heads to Metropolis and works at the planet its pretty good too. Takes a while to get there but its worth it.
5:51 WAIT WHAT🤯 For years I’ve been associating Lynda Carter’s wonder woman with Michael Keaton’s Batman and Christopher Reeve’s superman
yes the penguin and the riddler are kinda in love on gotham and they're arguably the best characters on the show
jerome was too berfore their swapped him out with jeremiah
The only S universe for me is is the DC Animated Universe. The Snyder stuff is an F. I was thinking D but then I remembered the scene where Luther put that piece of candy in that guy's mouth. Wtf.
18:47 Totally this, and this also extends to animation. So many people seem to only think something counts as "real art" if it's live action (which is weird considering comics and animation are quite literally artwork), which is part of why we keep getting these shitty live action remakes of animated movies. Animation STILL, for some reason, gets zero respect as a medium (personally I blame Hannah-Barbara).
The Batpod is an escape pod, Maso! Hence the name!
Lol these poor guys had to walk on egg shells to ensure they don’t piss off any derelict snyderbros that might be lurking around 😂
If the DC characters crossed over with Watchmen, how did they react to the Watchmen's universe being half destroyed and being caused by one of their own and most of those guys covering it up?
The DC characters didn't really get to know shit about the Watchmen universe, and pretty much none of the story took place there. Dr. Manhattan went to the DCU after leaving the Watchmen one cause he saw it was full of hope, but a vision he had convinced him that there was gonna be a World War III over metahuman powers, followed by a confrontation between him and Superman, the outcome of which he couldn't see. So he started pulling strings which resulted in the New 52 universe, where a lot of heroes were younger and a lot of dead ones were alive again, cause Manhattan effectively wiped the Justice Society of America (the precursor of the JLA) from existence and took away 10 years from the continuity. Batman and Flash kinda find out about Manhattan through Reverse Flash fucking around, but not really.
In Doomsday Clock, Ozymandias tracks down where Manhattan has gone and wants to bring him back to fix the fallout of Rorschach's journal exposing what he did. He goes to the DCU with Rorschach II, Mime and Marionette, the confrontation with Superman does happen, and I won't spoil it (the story's too long for a YT comment anyway), but I liked it, and Geoff Johns didn't try to change up the Watchmen universe too much anyway. He does leave a plot point in the Watchmen universe which could make for an interesting follow-up, though.
The Bruce Timm Animated works do an evil Superman like 6 times, and twice within the same show.
You did a real injustice to Smallville.
I'm watching that whole series for the 3rd time
19:53 you say that, and smallville did exactly that. without that, dc tv shows and live action super hero shows would not be around
You guys forgot to include my headcanon in the S tier
Smallville deserves A tier for making me actually care about Superman
Real
Couldn’t agree more with Mason about the state of comics! They are stellar!
I can’t believe they purposefully left off Doom Patrol just to spite me. Curses!
I didn’t even know Smallville was about Superman
My favorite universes are the DCAU, the Arkham games, Kingdom Come, and Young Justice for seasons 1 and 2
Smallville Season 11 comic book definitely bumps it up to an A Tier
Having Batman and Wonder Woman is a plus but they weren’t introduced into the show in full costume to make the no tights Superman even more ridiculous so D++++++++ for me.
Ok, I know its been almost 2 years, but I dont remember you guys mentioning Batman Unburied on Spotify, not just in reference to this but generally, its quite a unique format for a comic book story and id be interested to see if anyone cares about it, I liked it personally, the cast is insane as well
Something something Dr. Manhattan blue harvest.
Left a Like for your Video Editor(s).
2:54 As someone rewatching the show in 2023, Smallville doesn't really drop off until Season 9 and at that point, it's so close to ending, you can give it a pass.
Just in time to download before I leave for work!
No ending theme song... THANK YOU LAWRENCE!
I mostly agree with you on this one. Only complaint is you did Smallville dirty. WB is CW . None of the Arrowverse would exist without it.
Superman and Lois withstanding, I rewatch Smallville over the Arrowverse every time. It may have strayed a tad at times, but it was consistently good over 10 years. It ran long because the fans wanted more. It deserves a soft A logically to maintain dominance over the lesserverve or a hard B to hold the line.
Cheers guys.
Thanks for the Sky Captain call out!
I'll take the $$ for a like offer if it stands 😊
Remember that time you thought Frank Miller was Frank Darabont and you said, "isn't it funny how the Steven King adaptation guy has so many comic books" and everyone stared at you and then started laughing at you and called you a fraud?
Not pleasant memory for me to drag back up my bad.
My goober opinion is that I want to eat Maso’s beard
DCAU shouldn't definitely be A tier at least - quality storytelling and connecting of characters for a wider universe that nothing except the comics haver managed. a shoutout to the Young Justice universe as well as that was amazing
I'm now ready for the Watchmen of the Caribbean crossover
How do you not mention Mark Hamill when talking about batman animated universe?!?
New monster for the dark universe…Dr.Rankinstuff and Rankinstuffs Monster, idk why that is what came to Mind when I heard you said “ranking stuff” in the episode lol