Hello , could you post the link or share information about the small Bluetooth tool code scanner you using for the Air Suspension of the Range Rover . Thanks
E.M. H have you done the timing chain on a l322? If you did where did you buy the parts and the specialty tools that you mentioned. I have a 2012 non-supercharged.
Also a multiple model owner...and will continue to be because nothing comes close to the driving experience when they are working. That said the vast majority of problems were caused by lack of service or poor/incorrect services (my experience with dealers is nearly criminal......find a non-dealer expert to service the car and the problems go away). But I share the psychosis...as the comment “ owning a Range Rover is like dating a nyphomaniac supermodel ......with mental health issues”.....shows. It captures the feeling perfectly .
@@joepeterson9797 I do believe that these are cars that should constantly be changed due to the really fast depreciation. You sell one, put a few extra bucks and buy the newer version every 2-3 years. It sounds stupid, but if u dont want to have a 5 year old car that now only costs 30k instead of the 160k u first bought it, its the only way.
@@lukarancini1630 Well Buying a new car is without doubt the most stupid idea. New cars are great if you lease them, when buying, i would only look for a 1-3 year old car, as it allready depreciated a lot and you won‘t lose so much money. Honestly i dont know anybody who bought a brand new car as it makes no sense, even if you have a lot money
I’ve had one and it was great! 2011, 4.4 TDV8 and I spent less on repairs than my sister spent on her 2015 Audi A3. From my experience with it, the bad rep is unjustified!
I’ve owned a 3.6 Diesel L322 Vogue since 2009 when It was brand new and love it. I was warned that the car would bankrupt me in repairs when I bought it from friends. Luckily, it’s never had any major issues. That’s due to me making sure that services are regularly carried out and the engine and gearbox oil is changed with an additional flush out every 10,000 miles. Yes, I’ve had a few friends that have been unlucky with second hand ones that they bought, but that’s because they went bargain hunting rather than paying more for a newer car with a creditable service history. Just one tip for people buying a RANGE ROVER. Always buy one with a full service history and most importantly, Remember that when you buy a car that cost 5 times the price of a normal car, replacement parts will cost you 5 times more!!
I had the 2009 3.6 diesel Range Rover sport. It dragged a caravan around australia, and when it wasn’t I would drive it relatively hard, (it may or may not have gotten up to 180kmh at times ) and the v8 tt diesel would do it effortlessly. I put 230,000kms on it, I just kept it serviced regularly including the gearbox oil changes and never had anything go wrong. Wish I kept it
I own a 1998 P-38, black on black with overland rack and bull bar. I love it. 4.6 HSE, ZF transmission BMW used on the 750IL, and 850is, vastly improved transfer case, looks can't be beat, and the frame and solid axles are strong. I removed the air suspension, cut the ends off, then clamped them onto Discovery Springs, they install with just two metal clips, and solve the spring perch issue. The alarm system is what I next intend to modify. I have learned that mid 1970's Buick 300 cid engines have an intake manifold set up for a 4-barrel carb, and an electronic ignition distributor fits on the front of the engine. This, I figure, will make the overland rack more than a frustrating joke, as currently I would be nervous driving 300 miles from home, the alarm draws five amps with the key off, and a battery kill switch is not possible. BMW made some mistakes for sure, but at it's heart, it is a GM V-8 with the German version of a Turbo-400 backing it up. The suspension with the real springs is as good as it gets, I honestly think this is the era in which to start collecting a few of them, when electric cars take over, I will want a car that gets 13 mpg. Because it weighs almost 6,000 pounds, but moves out fast with just the 4.6, which works out to about a 302 cu. inch V-8, for me? It's a keeper, a modern 1970 Bronco with a 302, just 20- years from the true value kicking in. The poor dollar power had it costing close to $80,000 new, so it will be rare compared to a classic Bronco. With UA-cam, we can fix the intrinsic problems, and all be proud owners of a vehicle that will start every time, glitch free. I purchased mine having had my best friend work as a service manager from 1996-1999, they would spend four months a year in the shop when brand new. I have a question. If the BMW straight-6 Deisel was an option in Europe, has anyone heard of swapping in say, a 1991-93 3.5 litre Gasoline BMW inline six?
You know when you decorate your house room by room and by the time you get to the end you have to start back at the beginning again. Well that's how replacing parts on a Range Rover L322 goes. . .
I’ve owned 34 Range Rovers in the last 2 weeks, put 1,000,000 miles in all of them and never had a problem either. I’m also telling the absolute truth as an anonymous nickname on the interweb.
I want to buy one one and have 5,000 for preventative maintenance. Just change everything you can. Tune up/ coils, new gaskets, replace the cooling system, new fluids. I did that with my last purchase a 335i and I didn’t have one problem for over a year of daily driving
That's the thing. My Dad has had 3 Range Rovers now. He loves them beyond ration and reason. It leaks oil on the floor. Leaks water in through the roof. But he loves it. Perhaps that the definition of success when building a car.
From my experience helping a friend out in his LR Specialist for 3 months last year. I. witness the following faults pretty much once a week on the L322 1) Front Lower Control Arms. Up to 40k kms just change the Hydrastatic Bushes. Only. Don’t forget a wheel alignment. Over 40k kms consider new arms with the top ball joints. Check brake rotors not warped from the vribrations of bad arms. 2) Park Brake stuck on or actuator failed. Due to either dirt and debris but mainly not having a Park Brake Adjust at your service. RR Sport, Disco 2/3 need this done every Service. Land Rover don’t specify this hence common failure. 3) Coolant Level Sensor in the Coolant Reservoir. New Tank with sensor suppled. Lots failed. 4) Bonnet and Tailgate Struts 5) broken button on key fobs. (One every other day) 6) Air suspension as mentioned 7) Bonnet alarm sensor switch. Lots of these! All LR’s have their common issues. Discovery 4 and Range Rover Sport shred the most issues. Quite a long list! Transmission failure amongst our customer base became quite low as we ensured that they were serviced correctly and pans and filters upgraded. LR said sealed for life but this is not true. Most transmissions which failed on cars which come to us for the first time.
Lol I remember working for Land Rover, was a brief 1 year but I learned to stay the hell away from these cars. The worst new car to own at the time. One lady didn’t make it home with her brand new RR, the handbrake failed during traffic.
I can agree to a point. I own a 07' l322 SC 4.2L(jag engine) and it absolutely needs to be "babied", and maintained more than most every other vehicle. That being said, they are BEASTS, and can withstand most anything. HOWEVER, regardless of maintanence, most LR/RR/JAG owners will likely experience at some point, issues. Good news is, that labor costs are the bulk of everything. I do my own research, buy my own parts(most are OE standard not factory), and do my own maintanence/repairs myself. I don't need/use any lift or jacks(although it would be easier with), and even though it can sometimes be time consuming, it's ALWAYS/still WAAAAAY cheaper. The actual labor isn't too difficult either. Cost and labor-wise it's no more expensive than a ford or any other vehicle to care for/repair. (side note: 06-09 RR were owned/made by ford, so a lot of parts are interchangeable) i have done all work (mechanical and body) on my RR myself, and it has overall cost the same, and most repairs are just as easy. I have owned most every make, and most have been european, and aside from toyota/Lexus, RR is right there. The british def have way more "extras" going on, but are built like tanks and as long as maintained, will last a good long time. Not to mention they are one pf the top innovative performance and/or luxury vehicles. Exactly why, i too, am borderline obsessed with RR/Jag. There's a reason why the royal family uses/prefers only, LR/RR. Just sayin:)
I bought my 2004 L322 Westminster over 3 years ago with 118000 miles on her. I loved the style the size and the overall looks for a 4x4 suv. I absolutely love it. I really fell in love when I started driving it, there is nothing else on the market like it. I bought with the VANOS knock at idle and knew with the miles that the timing chains and Guides and tensioners needed to be replaced. I drove it for a year while buying all the parts to do the repairs including the VANOS gears about $3000.00 total parts. I pulled the engine resealed everything and replaced anything questionable. Today I have over 150000 miles on her and she runs like a swiss watch and does not use a drop of oil between 5000 mile services. Having a higher mileage Range Rover can be expensive but if you are a DYI guy those costs can be cut considerably
I bought a 2005 Vogue four years ago having 65K miles on the clock and driven it about 20K miles since then. The only major issue I had was the lift pump. Other than that there were a couple of worn out suspension bushes and a leaky turbo hose pipe that I can remember. The display in the dashboard was also all pixellated but I fixed that spending about 20 Eur on eBay and a few hours of DIY work to replace the connector strip of the LCD. More recently the lock mechanism of the hatch failed but it was just a broken spring which I replaced with a similar one I had lying around. Seeing opinions on the Internet it seems that either I must have been extremely lucky or the unreliability problem is somewhat exaggerated.
I'm on my 3rd starting with the classic, then LR3 and now with the evoque and yes I too have the sickness because all of them have had their share of I$$ue$. But like you I don't care because I love driving them and enjoy the appointments. Perhaps we should be in a Rover Anonymous group in a church basement tearfully rationalizing our brand loyalty and the sacrifices we make for our luxury. HoHumm
Not true regarding timing chain guides having to be replaced. Frequent oil changes (not the manufacturer recommended 15K intervals) with full synthetic oil keep the guides from wearing. I owned a 2012 L322 with 120k miles that sounded butter smooth even on cold starts.
I bought a super low mileage early L322 with full service history as an occasional luxury transport vehicle. During the 15 months it proved to be the worst car I had ever owned in my 33 years of driving! The compressor stopped working which was a bad electrical connection. Then the rocker gasket started leaking oil quite badly, immediately followed by the water pump leaking most of the coolant down the front of the engine. Then it developed a really bad squeak at the rear which was the Bush for the handbrake cable that had worn out. It got a misfire from oil getting into the spark plug wells which was another gasket failure. Then it started tripping all electrics off for no reason at all which meant disconnecting the battery terminals for 10mins or so to reset the system. The radio went mute but then fixed itself a few weeks later and finally the air suspension stopped working.....except when the car was switched off and locked up when it would do all manners of up and down movements as I watched from the house drinking a coffee. In the end I traded it in for a small hatchback. Good riddance and will never own another Land Rover again.
I have a 2007 I am the second owner yes things happen but when you take care of them like maintenance issues you have a real vehicle. I only had to fix things after the first owner but after that its been not bad I did change the air suspension to struts by strut masters. And it rides great but yeah if you don't have money don't buy it because fixing them is expensive especially if you have payments left on the truck.
you can do a timing chain service by yourself for about $850.00. Air suspension repairs around the same amount. Don't go to a dealer as everyone knows.
I’m laughing out loud ....I own one. Every thing he says sounds like me. Oddly , I love mine . I believe we have a disorder , he’s right . I also believe ... when people say “ I love your car “ we smile yes Thank you .... the expense makes us feel special
I own a 2002 L322 (Vogue TD6), the one with the BMW engine that nobody recommends. I bought it 10 years ago, and it lives in Europe where I use it as a holiday car (5000 miles a year maximum.) Over those 10 yeas Ive had to replace the gearbox )with a reconditioned one,) turbo, air suspension struts (front both sides,) wiper motor, fuel pump, discs all round and handbrake assembly. I took it all on the chin because I was expecting it, and because I had a hunch that the rate of mechanical failures would eventually tail off due to my low annual mileage and careful use. That finally seems to be happening (no significant issues in the last 2 years) although I always keep a cash contingency at the ready. I don't begrudge the costs, I knew what I was getting into and with light use I know each time I replace something I am very unlikely to have to do so again. My car has been repeatedly fully rust proofed with the Krown treatment (even injected inside the panels) and gets steam cleaned underneath every year. I now get compliments from the dealership now, for driving the best example they've seen from that year. Despite some of the hefty bills I've had, even the numbers stack up over time; I bought the vehicle for 13,000 Euros and have spent around 17,000 on repairs, so I've enjoyed owning and driving the ultimate luxury 4x4 for a decade, for a total outlay of 30,000 Euros, most of which has been spread over the 10 years. Obviously this doesn't take account of the inconvenience factor (when the gearbox went I was halfway across Poland) but on the numbers, it actually works out as good value.
@@philippeatangana5274 It’s not that bad, I usually get the bigger jobs done while I’m back home in the UK (driving my Land Cruiser) and collect it next time I’m back. The last couple of years the bigger jobs have tailed off as I’ve replaced most of the common parts that fail and the new parts are only getting light use so unlikely to.crop up again.
@@philippeatangana5274 It’s the “LC3?(“ short wheelbase) the model before the current one. It’s a fab vehicle, build quality, reliability, can’t go wrong. It even got me through 1m of water (up to the headlights) last year. I wouldn’t recommend doing it too often though.
Yes I have a problem too. IV had 3 l322`s and my latest one is my favourite I saved it from being scrapped and cost me over £1000 with me doing the work. Today I thought I'd finally got it running right and shed loads of lights showed up. It hasn't put me off, can't wait to get back to working on it. Love the video
I've now had 5 Land Rover's 3 x Range Rovers and 2 Discoveries - I've covered over a million miles in them and don't particularly treat them very well -- I love them. Still not come across any other car that comes close for comfort and practicality. Yes, I've had to work on them but not much more than others ... Yes high depreciation kills them but bargain for people who know what they ae looking at. Yes - I'm a part of Land Rover anonymous group.
Yes the steering column! Mine went the other day, I did a quick fix on it though. Lower control arms to do next week. I’ll put the video up when I have done them.
My father Just did the timing chain in his 2012 l322... $9,000 to repair. Now the transmission is shifting harsh and has harsh engagement.... never ending battle
Let me guess: 1: Leaking air strut 2: Failed tilting/telescoping on steering column 3: Park brake Fault 4: Timing Chain on 03-05 and 10-12 5: failed air compressor
My steering column adjustment is not working, although the motor is running. I was considering pulling fuse F20 - would you be so kind as to advise (I always had P38's)
I guess this why LR products don't sell very well here in Australia. They are beautiful cars, but they break way too often, and when they do LR are just about the planet's worst car maker when it comes to customer service. Here in Australia people just buy a LandCruiser instead. It's common to see them here with over a million kms on the same engine and gearbox.
Which is why I gave up and switched to Toyota. My last Amazon was 13 years old when I got rid of it and it had NO faults even after all all those years.
I learned how to do the timing chain, the injectors, the air suspension, the most bus bypass, and replacing and programming the ecu. I've only had it for like half a year lol.
I have a RR HSE 4.4 with 130,000 mi. I have heard that people who do not like this line of cars say that, If you do not have money to buy and maintain a new Land Rover, much less are you going to have money to buy and maintain a used Land Rover. But despite the fact that its parts are somewhat expensive, and relatively for my opinion they have a "programmed obsolescence" a little more than average, but I think it is a safe, strong, and classy vehicle, if I wanted something cheap I would buy a Honda LOL.
Dude, replacing the hood struts is about a 5 minute replacement job. Just fix it! Or if you are in the SF Bay Area leave me a message here we are 5 min south SFO and I can replace them for you I bought extras.
What’s wrong if the lights keep on flickering they blinkers inside don’t work and the lights flicker after I disconnected the black cable on the battery it started working again and then stopped after a ride around
I'm with you bro but how good do they feel to drive I feel like the king . I'm English in case you didn't gues and it's the same with every English product Dyson rolls Royce hotpoint make u feel special using them but a bit of something missing and u just know it ain't gonna last
Hotpoint is an American-Chinese company that manufactures mainly in Poland and Italy. Dyson is British-owned but manufactures in Malaysia and Singapore. As for Rolls Royce - they're just glorified BMWs built in the UK, although given your obvious lack of education, they're of no concern to you - 'bro'.
m an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be.... ....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
I have the same disease, I have already bought two 2007 Super Charge L322s. Silver and Black. Trying to get the super charger off to replace the valley hose that broke. Not having much luck as the hoses connected to the SC need a special tool to remove them. Guess I will have to send it to the shop. But I still love these trucks, best ride for ability I have ever experienced. Great video, I like your humor along with some great information. Thanks!!!!
Note: the transmission is not made by Land Rover. The air struts are not intended to last forever. In fact, nothing lasts forever. It is called maintenance.
The transmissions are built by ZF, Germany, be it a 6spd auto or 8spd auto. Every car with a ZF sourced 6/8spd auto gearbox had a transmission problem back in the day. The newer ZF-8spd though are the best in business.
Eventually every Rover owner falls into one of three categories: 1. Sadly gives up in despair and sells for scrap price. 2. Parks the Rover between paychecks and becomes a servant to its fickle needs. 3. Determines that this POS will not defeat me and declares an "unlimited budget" in order to win. I now fall under #3. hahahaha
Thanks nice to know the failures. I want to buy one of these but I know they turn to crap sadly. Although most owners kept them.in garages and fully clean. So the interiors on these are I credible after 15 years.
Hi, I've had to chuckle at your Range Rover vids - it really is like that isn't it? They can get you so damn frustrated that you seriously consider buying a few gallons of gas and a lighter... But when they are right, there is nothing better. Just wanted to let you know that Automatic - and all other OBD2 code readers - only read emissions-relevant codes, i.e. engine and auto trans. OBD2 is an open standard, which is why the code readers on ebay and amazon are so cheap. All other vehicle systems such as the air suspension are proprietary. Building a diagnostic tool that works with the rest of the vehicle is very time intensive - which is why they are much more expensive than an OBD2 code reader :-p I am a part of GAP Diagnostic - we make the IIDTool for Land Rovers (but we are all enthusiasts).
Well by the time chain comes knocking at the door typical timing belt is changed 3-5 times an I was lucky to have crankshaft sprocket mounts worn on my prev. used cars with belts and that's a real pain to fix. so ..yeah, some chained engines last 300-400k km, but 200-300k km with jag engine is ok. Its almost 10 years for avg driver.
I just had to stop and say I absolutely LOVE your videos especially the L322s. This video was hilarious! Why do we still love these things??? I only had a P38 so I am still dying to have this. Great job and keep em coming! What's your name, anyway?
From what I hear, why would you buy one? It’s like trying to race a 3 legged horse, the amount of money you throw at it, it still won’t win. 10k for timing chain WTF!!
You haven't mentioned the heater problem where it flattens the battery every 2days 😬 my truck has been the big its money pit put off all my toys haaaaaaa
Fantastic video....made me nod & laugh profusely at every point.....& groan too as I've experienced pretty much ALL🤣🙈..... My Evil but adored "Christine" (If your 40/50+ you know the Film I'm talking about) was whisked away to the Hospital Again today🙄🥴😤😩 via low loader.... This time?..... Suspension Fault...... & every time she goes I say that's it, I'm selling her and buying a bloody Skoda!..... but I get her back and get in and drive and boom.... overwhelmed & back in love with my baby😁..... x
I have a 2006 RR (not supercharged)...after a few hours, the vehicle is nearly resting on all the wheels. What is the most common issue I should be checking? I just had the sensor changed out a week ago but didnt change this issue. Thanks
Disconnect the battery and see how the vehicle drops. If it drops too one corner that strut is bad. If the front drops evenly it’s most likely the front EAS control valve same goes for the rear. If the entire vehicle drops evenly with the battery disconnected it’s probably the center EAS control valve right by the compressor. The valve has ORings in it that dry out and go bad. Also the material that is used to dry the air coming from the air compressor can break down over time and plug up the valves and cause them to not seal correctly.
I am laughing out loud. I have a 2006 RR Supercharged and every single thing on this video I have had to repair. Currently dealing with the air suspension now. Too funny. And also sad.
How many kilometers it has and how many have you put into it individually? I mean is it really that unreliable that countless equipment starts just to fail inevitably 🤯 I was considering buying a used 2005 n/a Vogue one but now..... rrright
Anyone ever had engine with sporadic power at idle and losing power while driving? Had a coolant leak and possible thermostat failure and engine wouldn't come up in temperature on a cold morning. Thinking this was the cause but not 100% certain.
I was excited to purchase a 2008 sport supercharged but after watching this advised video , stupid if I buy it lol , I already have enough maintenance with my benz E63 amg Haha thank you again. Haha
Universe must be speaking to me saying don't do it😂😂The 2008 Rover sport supercharged is the same model I currently have the opportunity to purchase at around 11K. Hearing so many horror😱😩😱💀🙈 stories is starting to make me weary though.
Owning an L322 is like owning a pedigree English Bulldog (I know, I've done both.) They are both irresistible objects of desire that will haunt you if you don't take the plunge; the subsequent costs and potential heartache will test your obsession but the good times are what we live for. Poor old Spike didn't make it and I won't go through that again, but I've been hardened to expect what the Range Rover throws at me and now I take it in my stride.
The top 5 common faults that keep us Range Rover L322 owners awake at night... The things we do to have the perfection of the L322. 😂
Hello , could you post the link or share information about the small Bluetooth tool code scanner you using for the Air Suspension of the Range Rover . Thanks
@@milensivilev1372 iidtool
E.M. H have you done the timing chain on a l322? If you did where did you buy the parts and the specialty tools that you mentioned. I have a 2012 non-supercharged.
I love my mine...despite the expensive repairs. I just pretend it's my high maintenance mistress
That is why 95% of new Range Rovers are all leased!
Also a multiple model owner...and will continue to be because nothing comes close to the driving experience when they are working. That said the vast majority of problems were caused by lack of service or poor/incorrect services (my experience with dealers is nearly criminal......find a non-dealer expert to service the car and the problems go away).
But I share the psychosis...as the comment “ owning a Range Rover is like dating a nyphomaniac supermodel ......with mental health issues”.....shows. It captures the feeling perfectly .
My 2000 4.0 SE was one of the most outstanding SUV’s I ever owned. I put 274,000 miles on mine.
What happened to it after that 274k? Got tired? I have my first, 1990 county. Things a blast.
@@joepeterson9797 I do believe that these are cars that should constantly be changed due to the really fast depreciation. You sell one, put a few extra bucks and buy the newer version every 2-3 years. It sounds stupid, but if u dont want to have a 5 year old car that now only costs 30k instead of the 160k u first bought it, its the only way.
@@lukarancini1630 Well
Buying a new car is without doubt the most stupid idea. New cars are great if you lease them, when buying, i would only look for a 1-3 year old car, as it allready depreciated a lot and you won‘t lose so much money. Honestly i dont know anybody who bought a brand new car as it makes no sense, even if you have a lot money
I’ve had one and it was great! 2011, 4.4 TDV8 and I spent less on repairs than my sister spent on her 2015 Audi A3. From my experience with it, the bad rep is unjustified!
I’ve owned a 3.6 Diesel L322 Vogue since 2009 when It was brand new and love it. I was warned that the car would bankrupt me in repairs when I bought it from friends. Luckily, it’s never had any major issues. That’s due to me making sure that services are regularly carried out and the engine and gearbox oil is changed with an additional flush out every 10,000 miles. Yes, I’ve had a few friends that have been unlucky with second hand ones that they bought, but that’s because they went bargain hunting rather than paying more for a newer car with a creditable service history. Just one tip for people buying a RANGE ROVER. Always buy one with a full service history and most importantly, Remember that when you buy a car that cost 5 times the price of a normal car, replacement parts will cost you 5 times more!!
William Ormonde This is what i do with my cars ,there is not bad cars but bad owners .👍🏼
I had the 2009 3.6 diesel Range Rover sport. It dragged a caravan around australia, and when it wasn’t I would drive it relatively hard, (it may or may not have gotten up to 180kmh at times ) and the v8 tt diesel would do it effortlessly. I put 230,000kms on it, I just kept it serviced regularly including the gearbox oil changes and never had anything go wrong. Wish I kept it
I own a 1998 P-38, black on black with overland rack and bull bar. I love it. 4.6 HSE, ZF transmission BMW used on the 750IL, and 850is, vastly improved transfer case, looks can't be beat, and the frame and solid axles are strong. I removed the air suspension, cut the ends off, then clamped them onto Discovery Springs, they install with just two metal clips, and solve the spring perch issue. The alarm system is what I next intend to modify. I have learned that mid 1970's Buick 300 cid engines have an intake manifold set up for a 4-barrel carb, and an electronic ignition distributor fits on the front of the engine. This, I figure, will make the overland rack more than a frustrating joke, as currently I would be nervous driving 300 miles from home, the alarm draws five amps with the key off, and a battery kill switch is not possible. BMW made some mistakes for sure, but at it's heart, it is a GM V-8 with the German version of a Turbo-400 backing it up. The suspension with the real springs is as good as it gets, I honestly think this is the era in which to start collecting a few of them, when electric cars take over, I will want a car that gets 13 mpg. Because it weighs almost 6,000 pounds, but moves out fast with just the 4.6, which works out to about a 302 cu. inch V-8, for me? It's a keeper, a modern 1970 Bronco with a 302, just 20- years from the true value kicking in. The poor dollar power had it costing close to $80,000 new, so it will be rare compared to a classic Bronco. With UA-cam, we can fix the intrinsic problems, and all be proud owners of a vehicle that will start every time, glitch free. I purchased mine having had my best friend work as a service manager from 1996-1999, they would spend four months a year in the shop when brand new. I have a question. If the BMW straight-6 Deisel was an option in Europe, has anyone heard of swapping in say, a 1991-93 3.5 litre Gasoline BMW inline six?
You know when you decorate your house room by room and by the time you get to the end you have to start back at the beginning again. Well that's how replacing parts on a Range Rover L322 goes. . .
I’ve owned 7 range rovers and can say I’ve never had any MAJOR issues
I am calling BS!
I’ve owned 34 Range Rovers in the last 2 weeks, put 1,000,000 miles in all of them and never had a problem either.
I’m also telling the absolute truth as an anonymous nickname on the interweb.
I want to buy one one and have 5,000 for preventative maintenance. Just change everything you can. Tune up/ coils, new gaskets, replace the cooling system, new fluids. I did that with my last purchase a 335i and I didn’t have one problem for over a year of daily driving
That's the thing. My Dad has had 3 Range Rovers now. He loves them beyond ration and reason. It leaks oil on the floor. Leaks water in through the roof. But he loves it. Perhaps that the definition of success when building a car.
From my experience helping a friend out in his LR Specialist for 3 months last year. I. witness the following faults pretty much once a week on the L322
1) Front Lower Control Arms. Up to 40k kms just change the Hydrastatic Bushes. Only. Don’t forget a wheel alignment. Over 40k kms consider new arms with the top ball joints. Check brake rotors not warped from the vribrations of bad arms.
2) Park Brake stuck on or actuator failed. Due to either dirt and debris but mainly not having a Park Brake Adjust at your service. RR Sport, Disco 2/3 need this done every Service. Land Rover don’t specify this hence common failure.
3) Coolant Level Sensor in the Coolant Reservoir. New Tank with sensor suppled. Lots failed.
4) Bonnet and Tailgate Struts
5) broken button on key fobs. (One every other day)
6) Air suspension as mentioned
7) Bonnet alarm sensor switch. Lots of these!
All LR’s have their common issues. Discovery 4 and Range Rover Sport shred the most issues. Quite a long list!
Transmission failure amongst our customer base became quite low as we ensured that they were serviced correctly and pans and filters upgraded. LR said sealed for life but this is not true.
Most transmissions which failed on cars which come to us for the first time.
Sounds like you guys know what you're doing! Where are you based? Anywhere near Manchester UK?
95% of all range rovers produced and registered remain on the road today. The remaining 5 % managed to make it to their destinations
Where did you pull those numbers???
That is power my friend.I am laughing histerically for 10 minutes now. Strong stuff
@@esmerilemela1 it’s a joke
Still cheaper than a girlfriend XD
Hahaha. You got me with the first sentence.
Lol I remember working for Land Rover, was a brief 1 year but I learned to stay the hell away from these cars. The worst new car to own at the time. One lady didn’t make it home with her brand new RR, the handbrake failed during traffic.
I’ve owned Range rovers for years
Don’t buy one if you can’t afford repairs
Simple
You can’t own a champagne car on beer money
I can agree to a point. I own a 07' l322 SC 4.2L(jag engine) and it absolutely needs to be "babied", and maintained more than most every other vehicle. That being said, they are BEASTS, and can withstand most anything. HOWEVER, regardless of maintanence, most LR/RR/JAG owners will likely experience at some point, issues. Good news is, that labor costs are the bulk of everything. I do my own research, buy my own parts(most are OE standard not factory), and do my own maintanence/repairs myself. I don't need/use any lift or jacks(although it would be easier with), and even though it can sometimes be time consuming, it's ALWAYS/still WAAAAAY cheaper. The actual labor isn't too difficult either. Cost and labor-wise it's no more expensive than a ford or any other vehicle to care for/repair. (side note: 06-09 RR were owned/made by ford, so a lot of parts are interchangeable) i have done all work (mechanical and body) on my RR myself, and it has overall cost the same, and most repairs are just as easy. I have owned most every make, and most have been european, and aside from toyota/Lexus, RR is right there. The british def have way more "extras" going on, but are built like tanks and as long as maintained, will last a good long time. Not to mention they are one pf the top innovative performance and/or luxury vehicles. Exactly why, i too, am borderline obsessed with RR/Jag. There's a reason why the royal family uses/prefers only, LR/RR. Just sayin:)
I bought my 2004 L322 Westminster over 3 years ago with 118000 miles on her. I loved the style the size and the overall looks for a 4x4 suv. I absolutely love it. I really fell in love when I started driving it, there is nothing else on the market like it. I bought with the VANOS knock at idle and knew with the miles that the timing chains and Guides and tensioners needed to be replaced. I drove it for a year while buying all the parts to do the repairs including the VANOS gears about $3000.00 total parts. I pulled the engine resealed everything and replaced anything questionable. Today I have over 150000 miles on her and she runs like a swiss watch and does not use a drop of oil between 5000 mile services. Having a higher mileage Range Rover can be expensive but if you are a DYI guy those costs can be cut considerably
I bought a 2005 Vogue four years ago having 65K miles on the clock and driven it about 20K miles since then. The only major issue I had was the lift pump. Other than that there were a couple of worn out suspension bushes and a leaky turbo hose pipe that I can remember. The display in the dashboard was also all pixellated but I fixed that spending about 20 Eur on eBay and a few hours of DIY work to replace the connector strip of the LCD.
More recently the lock mechanism of the hatch failed but it was just a broken spring which I replaced with a similar one I had lying around.
Seeing opinions on the Internet it seems that either I must have been extremely lucky or the unreliability problem is somewhat exaggerated.
Have it gone extremely wrong in these 3 years?
I'm on my 3rd starting with the classic, then LR3 and now with the evoque and yes I too have the sickness because all of them have had their share of I$$ue$. But like you I don't care because I love driving them and enjoy the appointments. Perhaps we should be in a Rover Anonymous group in a church basement tearfully rationalizing our brand loyalty and the sacrifices we make for our luxury. HoHumm
Not true regarding timing chain guides having to be replaced. Frequent oil changes (not the manufacturer recommended 15K intervals) with full synthetic oil keep the guides from wearing. I owned a 2012 L322 with 120k miles that sounded butter smooth even on cold starts.
Same 😊
I bought a super low mileage early L322 with full service history as an occasional luxury transport vehicle. During the 15 months it proved to be the worst car I had ever owned in my 33 years of driving! The compressor stopped working which was a bad electrical connection. Then the rocker gasket started leaking oil quite badly, immediately followed by the water pump leaking most of the coolant down the front of the engine. Then it developed a really bad squeak at the rear which was the Bush for the handbrake cable that had worn out. It got a misfire from oil getting into the spark plug wells which was another gasket failure. Then it started tripping all electrics off for no reason at all which meant disconnecting the battery terminals for 10mins or so to reset the system. The radio went mute but then fixed itself a few weeks later and finally the air suspension stopped working.....except when the car was switched off and locked up when it would do all manners of up and down movements as I watched from the house drinking a coffee. In the end I traded it in for a small hatchback. Good riddance and will never own another Land Rover again.
Ha ha ha ha ha....
I have a 2007 I am the second owner yes things happen but when you take care of them like maintenance issues you have a real vehicle. I only had to fix things after the first owner but after that its been not bad I did change the air suspension to struts by strut masters. And it rides great but yeah if you don't have money don't buy it because fixing them is expensive especially if you have payments left on the truck.
you can do a timing chain service by yourself for about $850.00. Air suspension repairs around the same amount. Don't go to a dealer as everyone knows.
How?
@@gatdammit Learn
I’m looking for a 2013 Range Rover sport, I heard they are reliably but compared to the older models. Mannnnn now I’m thinking about it lol
I’m laughing out loud ....I own one. Every thing he says sounds like me. Oddly , I love mine . I believe we have a disorder , he’s right . I also believe ... when people say “ I love your car “ we smile yes Thank you .... the expense makes us feel special
I own a 2002 L322 (Vogue TD6), the one with the BMW engine that nobody recommends. I bought it 10 years ago, and it lives in Europe where I use it as a holiday car (5000 miles a year maximum.) Over those 10 yeas Ive had to replace the gearbox )with a reconditioned one,) turbo, air suspension struts (front both sides,) wiper motor, fuel pump, discs all round and handbrake assembly. I took it all on the chin because I was expecting it, and because I had a hunch that the rate of mechanical failures would eventually tail off due to my low annual mileage and careful use. That finally seems to be happening (no significant issues in the last 2 years) although I always keep a cash contingency at the ready. I don't begrudge the costs, I knew what I was getting into and with light use I know each time I replace something I am very unlikely to have to do so again. My car has been repeatedly fully rust proofed with the Krown treatment (even injected inside the panels) and gets steam cleaned underneath every year. I now get compliments from the dealership now, for driving the best example they've seen from that year. Despite some of the hefty bills I've had, even the numbers stack up over time; I bought the vehicle for 13,000 Euros and have spent around 17,000 on repairs, so I've enjoyed owning and driving the ultimate luxury 4x4 for a decade, for a total outlay of 30,000 Euros, most of which has been spread over the 10 years. Obviously this doesn't take account of the inconvenience factor (when the gearbox went I was halfway across Poland) but on the numbers, it actually works out as good value.
You basically spent your vacation time fixing your car
@@philippeatangana5274 It’s not that bad, I usually get the bigger jobs done while I’m back home in the UK (driving my Land Cruiser) and collect it next time I’m back. The last couple of years the bigger jobs have tailed off as I’ve replaced most of the common parts that fail and the new parts are only getting light use so unlikely to.crop up again.
@@justinneill5003 I see what you mean.
Is it a land cruiser 100 that you owe? (My dreamed car)
@@philippeatangana5274 It’s the “LC3?(“ short wheelbase) the model before the current one. It’s a fab vehicle, build quality, reliability, can’t go wrong. It even got me through 1m of water (up to the headlights) last year. I wouldn’t recommend doing it too often though.
I'm on my 2nd RR. 2001 & 2012.. I also have a minivan.. My friends ask me why I always drive the van.. I try to keep the RR in bubble wrap
RollsRoyce xd ?.
@@TheSRBgamer63 yes
Yes I have a problem too. IV had 3 l322`s and my latest one is my favourite
I saved it from being scrapped and cost me over £1000 with me doing the work. Today I thought I'd finally got it running right and shed loads of lights showed up. It hasn't put me off, can't wait to get back to working on it. Love the video
I've now had 5 Land Rover's 3 x Range Rovers and 2 Discoveries - I've covered over a million miles in them and don't particularly treat them very well -- I love them. Still not come across any other car that comes close for comfort and practicality. Yes, I've had to work on them but not much more than others ... Yes high depreciation kills them but bargain for people who know what they ae looking at. Yes - I'm a part of Land Rover anonymous group.
Mmmmm....and there was I thinking about buying an l322 and look who I find...I had no idea that you were a fan of these...
I owned a Ranger Rover. I have never ever loved a car more. While never ever hated a car more.... I sold it and never looked back lol
Yes the steering column! Mine went the other day, I did a quick fix on it though. Lower control arms to do next week. I’ll put the video up when I have done them.
My father Just did the timing chain in his 2012 l322... $9,000 to repair. Now the transmission is shifting harsh and has harsh engagement.... never ending battle
Let me guess:
1: Leaking air strut
2: Failed tilting/telescoping on steering column
3: Park brake Fault
4: Timing Chain on 03-05 and 10-12
5: failed air compressor
2: Failed tilting/telescoping on steering column
1: Leaking air strut
5: failed air compressor
My steering column adjustment is not working, although the motor is running. I was considering pulling fuse F20 - would you be so kind as to advise (I always had P38's)
Not to bad then really, just engine, transmission, air suspension/bushings .WOW ! awesome car, Lol
I guess this why LR products don't sell very well here in Australia. They are beautiful cars, but they break way too often, and when they do LR are just about the planet's worst car maker when it comes to customer service. Here in Australia people just buy a LandCruiser instead. It's common to see them here with over a million kms on the same engine and gearbox.
Which is why I gave up and switched to Toyota. My last Amazon was 13 years old when I got rid of it and it had NO faults even after all all those years.
I learned how to do the timing chain, the injectors, the air suspension, the most bus bypass, and replacing and programming the ecu. I've only had it for like half a year lol.
I have a RR HSE 4.4 with 130,000 mi.
I have heard that people who do not like this line of cars say that, If you do not have money to buy and maintain a new Land Rover, much less are you going to have money to buy and maintain a used Land Rover.
But despite the fact that its parts are somewhat expensive, and relatively for my opinion they have a "programmed obsolescence" a little more than average, but I think it is a safe, strong, and classy vehicle, if I wanted something cheap I would buy a Honda LOL.
Nice vid! Had me cracking up, love the humor. Good editing too! Yeah, I’ll watch your vids, Bro 😎
I’m glad I saw this before I bought one.
Great vid mate.
Your funny. The involvement of comedy is great.
what code scanner do we use for scanning l322 codes?
Dude, replacing the hood struts is about a 5 minute replacement job. Just fix it! Or if you are in the SF Bay Area leave me a message here we are 5 min south SFO and I can replace them for you I bought extras.
Or you can lift hood "fully/upright" and lock. I had to do this while doing some repairs and until my gas struts arrived:)
@@lcmiller9251 yes that's the service mode bonnet position( I'm in UK so it's not no definitely NOT a hood!)
@Tony Serra I noticed a lot of fixes are simple. Save a ton of money
The air suspension is very simple on the L322 - not sure why you said it was so complicated
what do you think about a 2004 Range Rover HSE with 160k miles?
Hello fella I’m looking at buying a RANGE ROVER 2.7 2005 but it has a problem it won’t go over 70MPH can you tell me please what would be the cause
Is that an after market steering wheel ? Im looking for an upgrade
What sport model has the most reliable timing chain?
I think I can actually hear the air suspension fail as he speaks about it...... 😂
*The way to solve all the issues is to replace the 'badging' with "Toyota Land-Cruiser"*
Only if the Land Cruiser was one of the original FJ40's and not the reincarnated mess from Toyota,
What’s wrong if the lights keep on flickering they blinkers inside don’t work and the lights flicker after I disconnected the black cable on the battery it started working again and then stopped after a ride around
The Land Rover addiction is real!
Yes
My range rover was in garage to have new sensors put on thay took it for a test drive and it went bang and not lost drive at rear what can it be
I am getting to buy 2004, did anyone know is that any reliable vehicle? what I need to look for
I'm with you bro but how good do they feel to drive I feel like the king . I'm English in case you didn't gues and it's the same with every English product Dyson rolls Royce hotpoint make u feel special using them but a bit of something missing and u just know it ain't gonna last
Hotpoint is an American-Chinese company that manufactures mainly in Poland and Italy. Dyson is British-owned but manufactures in Malaysia and Singapore. As for Rolls Royce - they're just glorified BMWs built in the UK, although given your obvious lack of education, they're of no concern to you - 'bro'.
@@wispywonder1650 hey class today were gonna learn where hotpoint washing machine are made! Get a life 😭😭😭
Thanks for this important information.
What is the best and most reliable range rover?
The one you don't buy 😂
Someone else's!!
The Queens.....
m an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be....
....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
I maybe crazy but it looks like you're driving around Morristown, TN.
I have the same disease, I have already bought two 2007 Super Charge L322s. Silver and Black. Trying to get the super charger off to replace the valley hose that broke. Not having much luck as the hoses connected to the SC need a special tool to remove them. Guess I will have to send it to the shop. But I still love these trucks, best ride for ability I have ever experienced. Great video, I like your humor along with some great information. Thanks!!!!
Hi there, trying to buy your Automatic, and I notice there are a few models! Which one model worked for your L322, please. @RROverland
Great video! Also really like the added humor
I also have been afflicted with that same disease. She's worth it. Nothing else compares.
Note: the transmission is not made by Land Rover. The air struts are not intended to last forever. In fact, nothing lasts forever. It is called maintenance.
The transmissions are built by ZF, Germany, be it a 6spd auto or 8spd auto. Every car with a ZF sourced 6/8spd auto gearbox had a transmission problem back in the day. The newer ZF-8spd though are the best in business.
Thanks!! I was about to buy one this week a 2012 50.000 miles...not anymore
Are the engines he mentions not timing belts? The TD6 has a chain.
Eventually every Rover owner falls into one of three categories: 1. Sadly gives up in despair and sells for scrap price. 2. Parks the Rover between paychecks and becomes a servant to its fickle needs. 3. Determines that this POS will not defeat me and declares an "unlimited budget" in order to win.
I now fall under #3. hahahaha
3
I see myself headed to no.3 in a few years.
I'm still fighting between 1 & 3 😆🙈😤
@@vikkistorey1911 Still have mine, still hanging on with #3 hahaha. GL.
Thanks nice to know the failures. I want to buy one of these but I know they turn to crap sadly. Although most owners kept them.in garages and fully clean. So the interiors on these are I credible after 15 years.
Yes I did change my gearbox! And still have problems
Hi,
I've had to chuckle at your Range Rover vids - it really is like that isn't it? They can get you so damn frustrated that you seriously consider buying a few gallons of gas and a lighter... But when they are right, there is nothing better.
Just wanted to let you know that Automatic - and all other OBD2 code readers - only read emissions-relevant codes, i.e. engine and auto trans. OBD2 is an open standard, which is why the code readers on ebay and amazon are so cheap. All other vehicle systems such as the air suspension are proprietary. Building a diagnostic tool that works with the rest of the vehicle is very time intensive - which is why they are much more expensive than an OBD2 code reader :-p I am a part of GAP Diagnostic - we make the IIDTool for Land Rovers (but we are all enthusiasts).
Well I bought a 99 then bought a 03 but still have under 100 miles under my belt.What do you call that?
Well by the time chain comes knocking at the door typical timing belt is changed 3-5 times an I was lucky to have crankshaft sprocket mounts worn on my prev. used cars with belts and that's a real pain to fix. so ..yeah, some chained engines last 300-400k km, but 200-300k km with jag engine is ok. Its almost 10 years for avg driver.
Love the humor bro
I just had to stop and say I absolutely LOVE your videos especially the L322s. This video was hilarious! Why do we still love these things??? I only had a P38 so I am still dying to have this. Great job and keep em coming! What's your name, anyway?
From what I hear, why would you buy one? It’s like trying to race a 3 legged horse, the amount of money you throw at it, it still won’t win. 10k for timing chain WTF!!
I would love to here what your L322 sounds like at idle!
LMAO Hopefully not like a rattlesnake...
What causes it going into limp mode while driving at 60 to 70 mph?
You haven't mentioned the heater problem where it flattens the battery every 2days 😬 my truck has been the big its money pit put off all my toys haaaaaaa
Fantastic video....made me nod & laugh profusely at every point.....& groan too as I've experienced pretty much ALL🤣🙈..... My Evil but adored "Christine" (If your 40/50+ you know the Film I'm talking about) was whisked away to the Hospital Again today🙄🥴😤😩 via low loader.... This time?..... Suspension Fault...... & every time she goes I say that's it, I'm selling her and buying a bloody Skoda!..... but I get her back and get in and drive and boom.... overwhelmed & back in love with my baby😁..... x
Never even opened the hood. What sort fault finding is this?
When are you getting another and making more videos??
I have a 2006 RR (not supercharged)...after a few hours, the vehicle is nearly resting on all the wheels. What is the most common issue I should be checking? I just had the sensor changed out a week ago but didnt change this issue. Thanks
Disconnect the battery and see how the vehicle drops. If it drops too one corner that strut is bad. If the front drops evenly it’s most likely the front EAS control valve same goes for the rear. If the entire vehicle drops evenly with the battery disconnected it’s probably the center EAS control valve right by the compressor. The valve has ORings in it that dry out and go bad. Also the material that is used to dry the air coming from the air compressor can break down over time and plug up the valves and cause them to not seal correctly.
This guy is so funny, he could be a stand up comedian, he said he is going to walk home,because he doesn't want to put any more milage on it
Not a all
The timing chain issue is due to replacing the tensioner button from a metal one to a plastic one. A dumb idea by Ford most likley
I am laughing out loud. I have a 2006 RR Supercharged and every single thing on this video I have had to repair. Currently dealing with the air suspension now. Too funny. And also sad.
I love my 06 SC !
How many kilometers it has and how many have you put into it individually?
I mean is it really that unreliable that countless equipment starts just to fail inevitably 🤯
I was considering buying a used 2005 n/a Vogue one but now..... rrright
Me to lol
I also have 2006 Range Rover sport
And 2020 discovery
2006 is my spare
Get a p38 love mine with no faults 7 years on 😂
If you leave one thing broken nothing else breaks ...🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Exactly Sir exactly ahahha
@7:47 Poignant truth!😂😂
The withdrawal I went through after selling my 2010 Sport nearly killed me.😓😂
SCM - Why did you sell it?
Anyone ever had engine with sporadic power at idle and losing power while driving? Had a coolant leak and possible thermostat failure and engine wouldn't come up in temperature on a cold morning. Thinking this was the cause but not 100% certain.
This has been my labour of love 😣
I was excited to purchase a 2008 sport supercharged but after watching this advised video , stupid if I buy it lol , I already have enough maintenance with my benz E63 amg Haha thank you again. Haha
Universe must be speaking to me saying don't do it😂😂The 2008 Rover sport supercharged is the same model I currently have the opportunity to purchase at around 11K. Hearing so many horror😱😩😱💀🙈 stories is starting to make me weary though.
Run... MI7 folks are on your tail. Her majesty will not be happy with this video
WHY DOES THE VIDEO REPEAT ITSELF ??
Too Funny. Thanks for the smile
Thanks for talking me out of buying a used RANGE ROVER
Lol ... I had a good time watching your review ... so funny! Make my day
Owning an L322 is like owning a pedigree English Bulldog (I know, I've done both.) They are both irresistible objects of desire that will haunt you if you don't take the plunge; the subsequent costs and potential heartache will test your obsession but the good times are what we live for. Poor old Spike didn't make it and I won't go through that again, but I've been hardened to expect what the Range Rover throws at me and now I take it in my stride.
I love this video ,been owner of two .lots of love and hates .yes ,maintenance is $ one here
In my experience, a 2003 Lexus RX300 is more reliable than a 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8.
Honda Accord? Hmmmm, maybe when I get to be 90... god willing!