I wouldn’t regret buying an L322 Range if I got it at CarMax with a warranty and I created a UA-cam channel where every video started with me saying “THIS”
Some D2 info. (Land Rover Specialist) Discovery 2 (1998 to 2002) TD5 and The 4.0 V8 Are good cars. They survive well down here in Australia and many almost 20 years old running a hard life with a lot of KM’s on them. Air suspension optioned cars, the systems last about 8 years and not expensive to replace. Very simple system. It go to springs. The 2003 (D2a) 4.6 V8 slipper liners is not a design fault, it’s caused by overheating which in terms is a cooling system not maintained! These engines are designed to run at 96c to get around emissions, therefore cooling systems need to be tip top. Hoses, waterpump, thermostat change, viscous fan test and rad flush needs to be done at 10 years. A half sludged up radiator or any leak can cause these issues. So an overheating 4.6 (only made in 2003) (year they finished) is 6 years overdue if not done if not done to date. I recently watched a UA-cam video where someone bought a D2a V8 4.6 with a known cooling system problem, took it off roading on a hot day...... guess what happened! ..... yes it overheated...... who fault was it ...... Land Rover!..FFS. People need to understand these car before they blame them as being unreliable. In most cases it’s owner neglect and age combined. As wizard said some really good quality ones are cheap due to this. The body and interiors are really built to last. Electrics are good and simple if any issues. Parts are now really cheap. Absolutely brilliant off-road. Super comfortable as they are based on a Range Rover Classic chassis. Known issues are : Leaking sunroofs due to blocked drains. (Lots of cars suffer this) have one without a sunroof to avoid! ABS sensor lights ‘The 3 Amigos’. ABS Sensor wires wear out or a $80 shuttle valve part as they get old. Plenty of other names do this. Land Rover owners try and bypass by soldering wires etc! Please don’t do this! Have a crash and your insurance find it you will be in a lot of trouble! 3 Amigos a cheap fix in reality. Rover V8 Rocker Covers will leak oil eventually. Again a lot of other brands do. Front double cardon prop shaft is a sealed for life GKN unit. Consider swapping after 10 years or get greaseabke unit. Nothing lasts for life! Overall the youngest D2 is now 16 years old! Oldest 21 years. So like any car out of its 3-5 year warranty stuff has to be done!
I have a 2000 disco 2 4.0. I couldn't have said it better myself and I love that thing to death. Fixes are cheap and typically easy, people always told me "those cars are european so parts are hard to find and you have to have a mechanic because they're complicated and expensive blah blah blah" surprisingly, its been nothing but solid and easy to work on. Ive done a lot of preventative maintence, upgraded cooling, 180 thermostat, got a gauge to watch my Temps, watch the head gaskets l, replaced abs solenoid as well as all the normal maintence and it hasnt left me stranded no three amigos either with 180k and going strong. Great road manners and the thing rocks offroad. People just dont know how to care for the british princesses and you've done a great job of illustrating that in your comment.
I’m looking at a 2004 discovery 2 with a 300tdi swap done to it. Low miles on the engine, seems like a good buy. It just opens up a whole new layer of things I’m trying to educate myself on before pulling the trigger. Also looking at a 1990 Range Rover classic to do the tdi swap on myself. Not sure. Either option will run me about the same amount of money.
The 4.6 is based in a old block the 3.5 (this was a nice engine, with almost no head gaskets failures or overheating problems) LR push this engine to the limit, because in 2000 they doesn´t have money to make another engine. Some people use the TD5 thermostat in the 4.6. The 3.9 in my opinion is the best with a excellent oil and not long intervals.
We had a series 1 Landrover Discovery as our family car for about 15 years, its had loads of work done on it mainly because its done around 200,000 miles, never had the engine replaced and it still works today, retired to a field to pull trailers, mowers and rollers. Thing is an amazing offroader that can do pretty much anything straight out of the box.
Well, there are a couple of major errors here. When he talks about the Freelander 1 (1999-2006) he puts up a picture of a Frellander II, witch acually was a good anr reliable car with its 2.2 Ford diesel engine. And he says NOTHINg about the worst Full Fat Range Rover ever, the P38A, 1994-2001. Guess how I know. The L322 from 2007-2012 are good cars, both with V8 turbodiesel and V8 supercharged petrol engines.
@@sallhameand he said that the discovery Series 2 was the wrong year range and he failed to mention the 4.0 engine before the facelift and then he said the LR4 was reliable when we know they throw timing chains constantly and coolant pipes but he never mentioned the lr3 with the 4.4 Jaguar that is very reliable. Basically every single thing on this was wrong except for talking bad about the BMW engines😂😂😂😂😂
Former Land Rover tech here; I can confirm most of this. One thing to clarify, that Freelander he showed is actually an LR2. It was called the Freelander 2 internationally, but they realised that was a bad word here. It is *not* the same as the Freelander we got here. That pile had a 2.5 V6 developed by LR, and it was simply atrocious. Never buy a Freelander. The LR2, conversely, had a good bit of Volvo stuff in it - engine, trans, other bits inside - and actually is a pretty good little truck. I never saw many issues with them, and actually tossed around the idea of buying one. LR2: can recommend.
I have a Discovery Sport that I'm leasing now. So far my backup camera decided to show on the screen upside down. Check engine light code is telling me that my fuel rail sensor is going bad. 20 more months of this and I will never look at Land Rover again.
08 LR2(3.2 I6) owner here, thanks for cleaning the name for them. Mine has about 130k miles on it and no major issues, they deserve a good attention which they didn’t get.
Keynesian Economics I get claustrophobic when I’m sitting on the back seat of the evoques, not saying they’re bad but LR2 definitely has more rooms for me to breath especially at the back seats. I also love the lr2’s squarish look way over evoque’s, it’s a timeless design.
@@mattchen6355 my dad owns a 08 LR2 and it's one of the few diesel cars I like (here in Europe 99% were diesels). I sit in the back only one time, on a 1,5h trip, belt put all the time, it was my worse experience in the back of a car and I'm not even tall, I'm 5'7. I felt like seat was not lean backward enough. I sat in the back of a lot of cheap cars and all were better. My mom has no problem in the back, but she's much shorter. Also the cup holders and armrests (and I think that is a bigger problem in US): in the back are pretty ok, but in the front, oh, armrest a little bit narrow, too high placed and too long; as passenger I can fell the driver arm touching mine when shifting and as driver pretty uncomfortable to drive with an arm on steering wheel and one on the shifter. Front cup holders are very bad placed, I placed one accidentally in the middle of the 2, didn't fit very well and few secs later I needed to brake bc of an idiot coming from opposite direction and entering my lane in a turn and all the soda felt on the central console (some places are a little little bit sticky even today). In two years of ownership it was pretty reliable, without counting that rear doors can't lock anymore automaticaly bc of idiot passengers in the back, trunk lid button doesn't work anymore, bonnet open sensor needed to be canceled with a paper clip because it was starting randomly the alarm, parking sensors don't work, aux port is damaged because of bad positioning (why the fuck is on the rear?) and idiot passengers, right mirror don't open complete all the time and needs to be gently pushed, the haldex was broken when my dad bought it and realised only when coming back to home (fortunately it was cheap, the cost of a service for consumables and having haldex fixed at a local mechanic was only $600). Despite all of that is a good car, and I consider buying one for myself. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't feel good in the corners (I assume it's because of the high center of gravity and tbh I didn't drive or sit in another SUV and pay attentions to that).
I worked at Land Rover HQ in 1998-99, and sat near customer care. Heard of countless transmission issues on Discovery, then Range Rover fuel line leaks that would catch fire after the car was parked! Really enjoyed the Disco II with the active steering, which reminded me of the Prelude SH. That said, it was the most fun corporate place to work.
I’ve had quite a bit of experience with Land Rover over the years. 1996 Discovery - had “issues” but only left me stranded once in 160-170k miles (water pump failed) 1999 Discovery II - head gasket went around 99k, I replaced it for a fraction of the cost of dealer and it ran good up until we traded 2006 LR3 with the Ford V6, other than air suspension which has been switched for coils it’s been pretty reliable- longest owned for me-still own 1993 Range Rover SWB w 4.2 motor, this thing was a major hooptie even lower than Tyler Hoover standards 2009 Range Rover Supercharged. What an awesome rig this was, until it wasn’t. It’s been at the dealer since I traded it over 6 months ago and they still haven’t figured out what was wrong w it 2016 Discovery Sport. This thing has been pretty reliable so far, though I purchased CPO and added warranty after the 2009 Range scared me
Actually the 06-09 L322's with the Jag motors, particularly the Supercharged, are the most reliable LR/RR so far this century. The 4.2SC puts out 396HP and it takes care of itself quite nicely on the road and it sounds great when it's all wound up. The RR Sport L320 used the same motors but had some other issues that drop them down a notch or two, being based on the LR3 it shares those issues. I agree on the first few years of the L322 with the BMW motors and am not a fan at all of the Jag 5.0 with the bad timing guides.
Shame more D3s here in Aus weren't bought with the 4.4, easily the best motor in those discos. This guy recommending d4 and not mentioning anything about the 3L that is a bit of a time bomb.
Yeah this guy got everything wrong. From saying that the LR4 was reliable in the V8 to his not mentioning the lr3 with a 4.4 to his getting the discovery Series 2 years wrong LOL he said they went until 2006 when we all know it's 2004 and then he mentioned the 4.6 but not the 4.0😂😂
I bought my Audi A6 from one of your videos many months later it’s still running perfect. I’ve had no maintenance issues and the 2.0t I4 is still running strong. Cheers from Chicago
The Freelander pictured is not the awful first-generation Freelander we got in the US. The first-gen Freelander is truly terrible, but the LR2/Freelander 2 that was pictured is an entirely different vehicle and actually quite reliable. The Discovery 2 from 1999 to 2002 was a much better vehicle with the 4.0 V8 than the 2003 to 2004 with the 4.6. I have a 2012 LR2 and other than the previous owner having had the rear differential replaced it’s been a very good vehicle, and I have a 2000 Discovery 2 that actually has never required a tow in its life and ironically pulled a broken tow truck out of an intersection once.
Having worked for Montreal’s Land Rover dealer, years ago, my advice is simple.... if you have lots of money (almost rich or above) and have 2-3+ other vehicles that you can rely on (don’t ever be dependent on a Land/Range Rover!)... then the Land Rover experiences can be amazing (especially if under warranty). They truly are incredible machines... when they work! Thanks for the video.
Been watching wizard for years now. I trust his advice. He is a man of character and integrity. Hi is laid back and is direct. Will not sugar coat and tells the truth. Because you posted this I’m about to get me a 2012 LR4 tomorrow.
😂 just about every single thing he said was incorrect. From the Land Rover Discovery 2 years and engine to the LR4 not having timing chain issues which it has constantly including crossover pipes but then he didn't even mention the lr3 4.4 Jaguar V8 which is the most reliable ones and they ever built. It was an extremely terrible review very very wrong😂
I've got a full size l322 V8 petrol, no bongs, no real issues, it's done 116,000 miles and runs sweet, not even a tick from the engine, I've had it for 2 years and it's been great. Also no suspension issues either. It's just a good car.
Actually the ones to buy are the ones with the crap motors you find on Craig’s list for a hundred bucks, you then buy a Chevy Ford or Mazda from copart that runs and drives strip out everything right down to the door locks and fit it into the LR,RR. You will then have a nice looking and reliable vehicle for a tenth the cost of a new one. There’s a gm transmission that connects directly to the Range Rover transfer case and the Ford, Mazda V6 was used in some LR vehicles the ZF transmission was used in numerous vehicles including Ford Mercedes and Chrysler so if it has a removable bell housing you may be able to swap it. But never leave the Range Rover electrics in unless you want to bury it in your backyard.
2010 and up has the newer 5.0 supercharged Jaguar engines with 510hp, the 06-09 is the 4.2 v8 and 4.2 supercharged Jaguar v8 with 300-420hp, same motor in the s type r Jaguar. The 5.0 supercharged v8 is a gem! After 2010 Range Rover and Jaguar have really stepped up their reliability and quality, thanks to Tata motors! I’ve owned 7 rovers, amazing SUVs.
@@adamsdailydriveway I’m looking to get a 2011-2012 Range Rover sport. Looking for ones in the 16-18k range with like 90-100k miles and well maintained. I can spend a thousand here and there for maintenance and issues but is going to like get out hand?
@@eugeneabreut5208 the 2010 models are pretty reliable, the early model 2010-2012 do have waterpump and timing chain tensioners that can go bad after time, u will hear a rattle sound at cold start, lightens up but then becomes more pronounced after time, suspension is pretty good not many issues there, they are better then the 4.2 and the 4.4 engines.
I actually had the pleasure of owning a second hand Land Rover Discovery Series 1, did it have issues? PLENTY. Did I regret selling it? YES. Would I buy another? HELL YES. I just went in knowing exactly what I was going to get. While it did have issues, it never did leave me stranded on the side of the road. Not to mention, it was absolutely fun to drive offroad.
I had a 2011 LR2 and had no problems out of it the entire time I owned it. I sold the LR2 when I bought my 2014 tundra but I loved and still miss that car.
My dad owned a Series 1 discovery and I loved it as a child. He ended warping the head (didn't top up the radiator for a long time and overheated) but it was an amazing capable off roader. Loved being constantly told by all the LC/Hilux owners how much better off-road their 4x4s were while being towed out by dad's crappy unreliable discovery.
Just to be clear, I love VWs and, to each his/her own... I am aware that VWs are not going to be like Toyota's nor do they maintain Toyota's phenomenal reliability. To put it very bluntly if I wanted Toyota I would've bought one, but you can't get a Toyota in a stick anymore (other than the Toyota Corolla Hatchback)...
I've been running our Disco TD5 for a trouble free 7 years. I do my own maintenance and repairs. The only time we needed recovery was a couple of weeks after we bought it, a snapped auxiliary belt. I've put in a new clutch which was a heavy job but I can do most maintenance and repairs myself. I do have the advantage that I own a small engineering company but once you move up to the TD4 lots of jobs become 'body off' and I don't really have the facilities for this. I hate the idea of not being able to work on my own car myself. My advice would be to preempt cooling issues, new rad if it looks sketchy, new coolant pipes, thermostat and pump.
"No! The Disco 1 blows head gaskets!" "They ALL blow head gaskets" I got a genuine laugh out of that. *gazes outside at an L312 Range Rover in the driveway*
my old girl, an early 3 door just run for ever on anything I put in its tank, had it 10 years, sold it at 240.000 miles still as sweet as a nut, never needed glow plugs to start as I had 2 big 12 volt batteries under the bonnet, 200 DTI a legend of an engine
@@simonpage9980 Had a 1991 200 DTi almost given me by a buddy that needed work but drove fine.. Owned that 10 happy years but needed the unseen body parts welded or prefabricated and welded coz i can.. I maintained it very well and it drove like a car, an unstoppable car at whatever you threw at it to do. Made all my own service tools to do timing belt and injection pump timing spot on (crank pully holder, reinforced crank pully socket, Injection pump timing pin, flywheel timing pin, bought a 3 foot breaker bar, plus I had a scaffold tube) but since bought a 240 V mains rattle gun - magic bit of kit.. Still got boxes of spares.. Ran 2 normal sized batteries wired as 12 volt but huge amount of amps Always started no heater plugs needed and i ran it on 50/50 derv and new cheap cooking oil with a splash of unleaded to keep it all clean.. sold it to a collector at 240.000 miles he phoned when he got home to say its the best Disco hes driven and he had a barn full/ I needed an auto one, bought a auto derv hippo, love it, but looking for a 200/300DTI autobox one or a TD5 with swiss cheese chassis - have welder can fix - lol
Yeah this review was bad he even said that the discovery Series 2 went until 2006 LOL he failed to mention both engines and he said the LR4 was reliable but didn't even mention the lr3 with a 4.4😂 most reliable engine?
I am glad you did not mention the RR P38, most people are scared of them, but after 10 years of ownership of a 4.6 HSE i cannot fault them for value for money and reliability if you look after them on a cheap budget.
4.6 here too. It works fine. Drinks like a thirsty fish but it's not like I put tons of miles on it. Comfy, big, tows small buildings, great for long trips and off road.
I have a 2007 Range Rover sport L320 with 165,000 miles (2.7 TDV6 Ford lion v6) and the only problem I have had is the rear toe link spindles in 9 months ownership. Even did a 2,000 miles family road trip. Best car I’ve owned. I used to have a 2013 A45 amg but would have the Range Rover any day.
That era ford derived land rover are very good cars, I almost wonder if Ford kept them if they would have been better cars. I've got a 319 LR3/discovery of the same vintage with the 4.4 gas engine it's basically the same car as your 320. It's still kicking super reliable, never been stuck, never been towed very little ever breaks on it. Suspension parts are a problem but the motor is solid and lots of parts of the car are just beefy. I've had mine 12 years tried to replace it with a new one and found myself driving it while the new one was in the shop, LRNA wound up buying my L405 back and I'm back driving the lr3, not sure I'm going to replace it yes it has minor issues from time to time but it is a great car and has never left me stranded.
I own a 2003 Discovery 2, like you mentioned, the engine did drop a liner making it into the proverbial boat anchor. I replaced it with a fresh rebuild with "top hatted" liners that keep them from slipping ever again. I recently got to 110,000 miles and aside from the engine, it has been completely reliable in all aspects. I found it well worth the price consider how little I paid to get a very capably SUV that can go from off in the mud in the morning to taking me to a show on broadway in the evening with only a bath in between. Love my Disco!
I used to work at a small used car dealership and we often sold cars on consignment. We were so small that I often made repairs myself to keep at least a little bit of profit in the sale. I sold a bright yellow Defender 90 after replacing the broken plastic instrument cluster housing with a metal one and finding a short to the tail lights. We also had a newer-model turbocharged Range Rover with a non-functioning turbo. I replaced a power seat switch but the turbo repair was beyond anything I'd fool with. Anyway, I only know enough about them to know I don't want one.
Had an evoque with a check engine light, ended up replacing the turbo, $7k job, glad it’s covered under the warranty at 20k miles, my conclusion is if someone in the bracket of getting new cars every couple years, otherwise I will stick with Toyota and Lexus.
Both of you are correct. ANYBODY with a sense of some car knowledge would know not to buy a Land/Range Rover. It's sad that people that are mechanically not inclined would buy a money pit. I on the other hand so badly want a either 2007 Lexus IS 250 AWD or a 2008 (or 2007) Lexus GS 350 AWD. Either way if I end up getting the IS I'll probably supercharge that V6. Maybe put some nice 20" or 22" ers on that.
Man I wish there were more ppl like you out there. I've had a 1995 Land Rover Discovery since 2004. Bought with 116k miles on it. Burns some oil, eats some gas and alternators, but otherwise been great. After a brake job the master cylinder went out on it and service inspection said just about the whole brake system was bad. $1800 bill sidelined it for me ( storage jail ). Got just enough to fix it, then decided maybe good to invest in a gas saver. Fuel costs alone saved should fix the Rover in 5-6 months.....wrong. $1800 140k mile Ford Focus has cost me $18k all in ( just maintenance and purchase price @ approx $4-800 every 4-10 months including one $6800 engine+ bill ). Needless to say everyone tells me to sell the Rover. THANK YOU for saying it's one of the good ones. V8, Mech Center Diff, AWD, Solid Axles, just the right weight. It's my baby tank. No plans on selling. Mom's from England and I'm proud to have my Land Rover. 1995 white still shines. Hoping to have it back on the road before 2023. Happy Rovering.
Hey Wizard, haven't you heard, 90 percent of all LandRovers ever made are still on the road...the other 10 percent actually made it home... But I've had a 1998 Disco D1Tdi for the past 10 years and it's been pretty reliable, very capable off road. Wouldn't bother with anything later from LandRover.
@BERGKVIST "Some say", now that's a Jeremy Clarkson-ism, who, indeed are the "some". I could venture, "some say" that they haven't made a good LandRover since the series vehicles, it's all too subjective. Just go with what you know...
Disco 2 is actually pretty good, the td5 is pretty bulletproof, the V8 not quite as much. But again most car trouble is just down to lack of proper maintenance. Which is why I never listen to anyone that doesn’t work or know much about cars when they talk about reliability. Like the head gasket is a known issue for the V8, so replace it every 90,000 miles and you’ll be fine. Not the greatest for those not mechanically inclined. But in the long run it’ll be cheaper than replacing the engine.
I've owned a 2003 Range Rover HSE since 2015.Yes,many repairs.However,after replacing steering column,rebuilt,runs fine.Oh yes, performed timing chain guides 2018.I still enjoy the Rover.
I had an 03 Discovery 2 and the years I had it I never had issues with it but definitely not a truck for the owner who doesn't wrench or change their own oil. New cooling system is a must as the stock cooling system and water pumps tend to go back which should be the first thing to replace is the pump and radiator. I still hope to own a Discovery 1 someday as those are nicer imo.
Yeah sometimes this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. What's funny is he also mentioned the Disco series 2 as 02 to 04.... Not even mentioning that it's actually 99 to 04
The LR2’s are not the same as the earlier Freelanders. Different chassis, different engine, different cars. I whole-heartedly agree about the Disco’s. I had an ‘01 D2, and it was fun junk.
I wonder why the LR3 wasn't mentioned. It's widely accepted as the most reliable Land Rover ever made out there. Many hitting 300k, 400k, 500k miles etc.,
Because this review was terrible LOL I own an lr3 4.4 and a discovery series to 4.0 and pretty much everything you said was wrong it was pretty funny when he said the discovery Series 2 was built until 2006😂 looks like he just likes to make money off of views
The only land rover I'd consider as an english guy is a land rover discovery 4. I worked with lots of them doing export dock work in the south of england, and it was the only land/range rover I didn't have problems with. The 3.0 TDV6 was the engine that worked the best, but I'm not sure they were exported to the USA.
My mother used to drive a 1965 series 2 Land Rover around London during the 90s. Used to play “let’s go fast over the speed bumps and see how far we could fly off the seats” fun times. From what I remember it was actually quite reliable. P.s Lincoln or Cadillac this not that ;)
Just wanted to mention (prior to watching this) that for some unknown reason I keep being in the right place at the right time regarding purchasing vehicles. It is uncanny. It keeps happening, decade after decade and I have not ever put one ounce of thought into it. It can be to do with cars, SUVs, vans, motorbikes. Sometimes I am not even out looking for anything but with a friend who wants something and I suddenly see something I really like. Sometimes not even on the first visit does this happen. A real plus and very odd but in a very good way. I have ended up with anniversary machines and more.
Totally didn’t expect a Land Rover video. Disco I and II somehow hold their values good here in Canada. A lot of people are asking $10k-$15k+ for nice ones.
my mom had a land rover discovery from 2000s or something. i remember sitting inside it in the garage because it needed a new motor. it was given to her as a gift lmao
Four years ago I bought a 2010 Range Rover Sport HSE with 99,000 miles on it. I traded my paid off 2007 Escalade and left the dealer owing just $11,000 for the Rover. When I got it home I had it serviced for about $800. Today it has 114,000 miles on it. The only time it has ever gone down in four years is when the battery died. It has been unexpectedly very reliable, it's fast and fun to drive. One of the BEST vehicle purchases I've ever made. I bought a 2009 BMW 750Li eight months ago. It had only 85,000 miles on it and had a clean (on paper) maintenance history. I paid $12,000 for it. Sadly, it cost me $6000 to stop all the BMW "bongs" that started two days after I bought it. Additionally, BMW are the total cost of rebuilding the engine due the bad valve stem seals. It hasn't given me any problems in 4 months, but I still get scared every time I turn it on that another "bong" is coming. One of the worst vehicle purchases I've ever made. Actually, it's the worst vehicle purchase I've ever made.
I'd like to have an old 40s or 50s Land Rover like the one in the movie "The gods must be crazy". It was the star of the film, its idling engine sound so soothing! ;)
@Sans Freedom I'd rather get a Lada Niva then, they are even cheaper and possibly even better to come by where I am (although you'll have to look out for rust issues).
Can confirm the 10-13’ LR4 and RRS, water pump and crossover tubing as well as alternator have been the only issues with mine so far. Also make sure to use the parking brake often or else it will seize, and that makes for a no-fun time.
I can confirm this. Have a 12' rrs. Just got my stucked parking brake replaced and it cost me 3000$. I'm also having a coolant leak issue right now but I'm not planning to fix it since it leaking really slow. Is there any other problems you've met? Just wanna take precaution.
1995 LR discovery, roof racks, Trail lights, heavy duty bumper with winch 116 k zero rust super big thing in Minnesota $1500. My mechanic says go for it. "You've done worse" I think I'll buy it tomorrow. I feel a lot better having the car Wizards blessing as well.
Don't do it the lr3 is much more reliable this video was completely inaccurate. He also said the discovery Series 2 was built until 2006 but it really was 2004😂😂😂
@@chanceym6000 thanks. I've been really wanting to get one. Been looking at a couple close to me and went and checked one out this week. Just trying to find the best deal. Good to know you are liking yours.
One thing I also did notice, he slipped up and said the LR4 had a Ford engine, that actually isn’t correct, they only had Jaguar motors, it was the LR3 that had Ford motors, you could get a Ford V6 as an option
I picked up a 98' Disco 1 SE7 back in 2010 for $850 that didn't run (before buying it I noticed it didn't have fuel pressure) and replaced the in tank walbro with a 155gph unit @ $100. In severe weather that truck survived 2 wrecks, multiple colorado off road trips, and a ton of abuse for 5 years and I ended up trading it for a truck while still running fine. It was pretty indestructible
I've had my 03 D2 since hs.12 yrs later with 145k miles, and it is still running great. Only the random 3 amigos making inspections hard to pass but never running rough and never stranded with engine failure or stuck on a trail, and I keep flying by all the jeeps if they don't need help.
I’ve heard that the LR3 was actually a fairly reliable vehicle as well. The motor was a 4.4 V8 that was designed by Ford when they owned Jaguar. I’ve heard they had air suspension problems, but all and all they were decent vehicles from what I’ve heard.
The only air suspension problems I've had with the lr3 was when the air struts went out. By the way here on the US you could either have the good Ford v6 or the basically Ford v8, I got the v8. If you get the tab recall thing for the air compressor from Hitachi to amk you're good. But the air struts cost the same as struts for other cars if not less. The difference is that once the air struts break you have to replace it unlike a normal strut. But most air struts lost roughly 160,000 miles. Plus what normal spring strut keeps factory tolerances like the air struts.
Yeah he screwed up this review big time. The lr3 is way more reliable than the LR4 blows the timing chains and coolant pipes. Also the discovery Series 2 he said was built until 2006 but it was 2004 LOL
I'm from Australia, so this info is not needed for me, but i love watching this channel anyway and Hoovies. Lots of great honest mechanic info here and i can relate what he says over to our cars here so always something to gain. Also like his large working area without clutter. 3 thumbs up from Australia!
My mom has the Freelander 2 2007 SE 171kw i6 3.2 engine made by volvo. The engine seems to be very reliable. Hers has done 150000km. I've seem some on the 2nd market do 250000km+. The only problem is it burns oil. Mostly common on the 06-07 model engines. The transmission is Aisin (made by Toyota) and seems to be bulletproof.
Land Rover told their customers to change oil like... never, almost, but if you change it every 10000 km or once per year, it's good. Transmission every 30000 or two years. Coolant every two years, haldex and diff - oil and filter clean every 20000km. Good to go.
I have a Disco 2, 2001 with a Td5, love it, maintainance is important if you want it to last. Change oil and cooling liquit regulary. I have had it since 2015 and it had 168.000km on it when I got it, now its up to 320.000km and still has great compression and does not burn any oil, but it leaks oil from engine, gearbox and transferbox ( real Land Rover do that ). Great travel and offroad truck. Planing to keep it 4ever
I daily drive my 1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE (also known for problems...) since a few years but it´s pretty reliable ! I have to mention that i replaced the suspension air bags before they were aged to badly. The old Buick sourced V8 is fun to drive and expect some gasket problems and bad MPG very good.
Isn't it annoying when your country could put out a good product but doesn''t. Look at the U.S.its the same. We could build the best cars in the world and once did but not now.
@@robertwoodpa6463 Yes agreed. Just like to cut corners for maximum profit. I own a 88 Dakota LE V6. That thing is bullet proof and never misses a beat.
That's because some of you Brits don't service your cars. You buy them second hand cheap and don't service the properly and just sell them on. Iøve seen that so many times. They are all too often rusty, and broken, with bad cheap skate fixes, not real repairs. That said, I have had my Lotus Esprit for more than 13 years, and it's perfectly reliable, save two plastic gears in the lift up head light - 60 gbp and one hour at home changing them, and it's fine, + one clutch slave that gave up after 25 years of trouble free service. 5,60 gbp and ... one hour at home changing it. That's all. Not even Toyota can do that. There is always two sides of a story about car reliability. Cheers.
I had a 2006 LR3 and ran up the mileage to 170k before I got rid of it and it was hands down one of the best vehicles I've ever owned (and I've owned over 350 vehicles). The gas mileage was nothing to write home about, but It had the factory rear locker and it went anywhere and it was an Amazing Camping Rig. It was also extremely reliable, had very few issues in all of those miles.
I have been running a 2005 L322 Range Rover TD6 for 2 years. No problems whatsoever. Service it religiously and don’t drive it like a sports car. One of the most reliable cars I have owned..
@@DiaperSNiFFER LR4 to avoid 2010-2012, unless they had the timing chain work done. Also IMHO the 5.0 V8 it's the way to go with these vehicles since they almost weight 6000 lbs.
I have a 2010 RR Sport tdv6, during jaguar land rover era (thank god). Only major issue ive had was the air suspension, replaced once in 14 years. Lovely car
Just a bit of clarification. The Evoque shown is the 2018 onwards version. Then the picture of the Freelander is the 2006 to 2014 version, which is not too bad. The original Freelander looked completely different and was pretty unreliable as you say.
Correction: 2005 Ford bought Land Rover so the later 05 and on LR/RR had the Jag 4.4L V8 or 4.2L Super Charged in them and are reliable. So 2002-early 2005 were the BMW made models and had reliability issues.
I was just looking and talking about these cars yesterday and telling my girl they’re like the bmws, gotta know which ones are okay and which ones to avoid, and if you’re not sure just avoid the entire brand, but buddy breaks it down here so that’s cool thanks pal. Shalom ✌🏼
You got some info wrong on LR4. LR4 starts from 2010, not 2009. and V6 Supercharged starts from 2014, not 2016. and 2011 and 2012 models got terrible timing chain issue.
I agree with the previous comment. I had a 2003 Freelander and the engine failed at 105,000 miles. I bought a 2013 LR2 and it was completely a different car! I sought advise from a Land Rover mechanic about the LR2 and I had an outstanding report. Evoke and Discovery models have the same engine as my LR2. If you want a good advise, please listen to a Land Rover mechanic instead of any critic on UA-cam!!! Call someone who works on Land Rovers!
He's wrong about the Freelander 2 no model had a 1.8 engine most have 2.2 diesel engine. I've had two, both done over 100000 miles never had any problems if you read the comments from people that have owned them most will say the same
Back in 2010 me and my better half literally broke the bank and went out to LR dealer and got ourselves into an LR4 with the V6 for her And a Range Rover Sport with the -back then- new non super charged 5.0 V8 😁 they are still with us running strong with religiously observed routine maintenance with mostly minor issues on the LR4 some of which were taken care of on warranty and the rest in later years with the help of a good friend and master mechanic 🙏🏼 The last 10 years in my humble opinion have been really good years for LR in terms of overall reliability .
I will say I have an '08 LR2 and I love mine. The only issues I've had with mine are nothing more than regular maintenance things like a coil pack here and a MAS there. Other than that I really don't have issues with it
Off- Roader Land Cruiser 76 2 Door 4x4, Suzuki Jimny 2 Door, Mitsubishi Montero P 2 Door 4x4 SUV/MINI-SUV Subaru XV, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, Toyota Corolla Cross
Mines got 196,000 miles on it. Most expensive repair was probably either the Ford "smart" alternator or the air struts. Now before someone says the airstruts go out all the time, they don't. They last for around 160,000 miles then die. New ones cost the same as normal struts for other SUVs like volvos. I would also like to point out, show me a normal struts that is within factory specs like the air struts at that mileage. But other than that I love it. Only regret not having the rear locking differential. But the TC is still very good compared to jeep, Volvo, Toyota. Hope you enjoy your lr3 as much as I do. Also, I've got the v8 too. Recommendation to people looking to get one or who own one are be mechanically inclined, be smart, and have fun. When looking one to buy make, look for one with the locking rear diff, and it has all of its paperwork and past shop records, check the cowl and wire tunnels, check the air compressor to see if it's the crappy Hitachi or the good AMK. A tool you need to buy is either the iidtool or nano evocom for diagnostics, I use iidtool.
You can't kill the 4L jag engine. Seriously underrated. Probably could do 300k miles on that engine. Mines over 100k and smooth as silk, the rest of the car is basically rust but the engines a beast.
My HSE 05 4.4 rover BMW is an absolute tank, I bought it for 500$ with a roasted trans, bought a used trans for 500 bucks and its still going strong, I bought Chinese airbags and there decent and still holding up
He never replied probably because he doesn’t know. The Ford engine he referred to the LR4 is actually not in the LR4 but in some LR3 trucks. Pretty reliable regardless of whether you land on the for V6 or Jaguar AJ V6.
No point. They're all excellent through 2008 at least, with the xc90's through 2015. For rwd, go 940 not 240. Don't bother with turbo unless youve gotta have it. Overall best Volvo ever is the 2001-2007 XC70 wagon, post-05 ideally. All the P2's really. Not the most refined Euros but a good balance of quality, performance, value, durability, and elegance.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Informative though I prefer my 960 over a 940 and my 740 over a 240. I was more wondering his experience with S40/60/80/90 fix-ability and long term issues as they are modern.
@@bobbymcearlton Agreed on 960s. I have two P2 V70's, both excellent. Easy enough to work on. Unlike most opinionators, I have basically mastered the maintenance of these vehicles over the past five years. You name it I've done it. A little cramped underneath but that's fwd. The NA 5-cylinder is just dead simple and I expect great longevity. Good rust resistance. A couple of glitches that will come up but they're simple to resolve. Volvos post-Gheelee (?) I know little about and probably wouldn't buy, but only bc I want a car with a bit of identity and history. They were generous with the aluminum on the P2's: block, head, trans case, rear subframe, hood, control arms. Modern tech but very easy to troubleshoot with OBD. Good safety. Tuneable for big power but that's not really what they are. Very simple really once you know them. Suspensions are very typical.
The P80's I'm less thrilled about, owned one of those. Nearly identical structure as the P2's but the P2's are a more refined execution of that concept of what a car could be. Volvo tried several different one-off rear suspensions through the 90s, from solid live axle on the old rwd's, to a sort of primitive multilink using a single fiberglass spring (the S90's), to a wonky delta-link on the P80's (two overlapping triangles) to the 4-part multilink on the P2's that is still popular today.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Yes, my 96 965 has the IRS suspension, glorious looking thing. Havn't gone newer than 96' with my volvos though a 2002 xc70 did show up on my local second hand for $500 cad round a month ago, "weak cylinder" the said.
I've had the series 1 disco 3.9 V8 good truck no issues series 2 Disco 4.0V8 transmission and airbag issues Disco 3 Td 2.7 V6 Nice truck and very capable. my advice keep your coolant correct. As soon as you see a low coolant warning. Stop or you will blow a head gasket and thats a replacement motor. Rangerover P38 4.6 HSE nice, thirsty, air bag issues. 03 L322 BMW Era or Error Engine okay but 5 speed auto makes it thirsty. Everything plastic in the cabin seemed to be break 06 L322 with the AJ2 (Ford petrol) much better 6 speed auto. Such a nice truck. 07 L320 Sport TD 2.7 definitely sportier, still capable, good power and economy again watch your fluids. 08 L320 TD 3.6 V8 So cool! amazing amount of get up and go for a diesel. Pretty good economy, nice sound. A bit more plush on the inside than the V6. Sounds like a lot of trucks in a short time but there are two of us using them over the years. We have had Fords Exploders terrible. Toyota Landcruisers, thirsty diesels and slow to get off the mark. Nissan Safaris 4.2 turbos good, but a bit truckified for long distance. Sorry so long. I have been told to skip the LR4 td 3.0 as the engines can lunch themselves quite early on in the piece.
The LR4 is a really great truck, which makes it pretty hard to come by, but also probably should clarify that the 2010 - 2012 have a timing tensioner issue which can grenade the engine, it's not a cheap fix either, supposedly it was fixed late 2012 and 2013. The supercharged V6 was actually added in the refresh in 2014, unfortunately a single speed diff became standard with the two speed being a kinda rare option.
I've heard many people say that if you want a 02-05 Range Rover with the BMW v8 then just buy the x5 but with the i6 engine. much more reliable and it will not need as much maintenance. there's a reason you still see plenty of those on the road.
Love "TO Buy & NOT to Buy", do all the manufacturers!
What about GMCs, GMC is from utility to luxurious rides.
Should do a whole series
instablaster.
Toyota will be a difficult, if not impossible episode😁😅😂.
Like that this is genuine advice and not the crap that Scotty Kilmer says like “only buy a 1994 Toyota Celica”
LMAO
Doug DeMuro even said yeah sure it’s reliable and cheap but with the outdated safety features I really hope you don’t get hit by an Escalade
Redline Raphael Scotty is a complete stooge. My dad loves him. My though is that anyone can tell you to buy Toyota. Or Honda.
@@RootBeerGMT I agree 100%
Jeez ,Scotty is a loser !
I wouldn’t regret buying an L322 Range if I got it at CarMax with a warranty and I created a UA-cam channel where every video started with me saying “THIS”
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Just buy an L322 with a 4.2 supercharged engine. Those things are virtually bulletproof where it matters.
Is that Dough Demuro guy?
@@sankara6823 I think it is 😂😂
THIS is an excellent comment I will now give it a Doug score
Some D2 info. (Land Rover Specialist)
Discovery 2 (1998 to 2002) TD5 and The 4.0 V8 Are good cars. They survive well down here in Australia and many almost 20 years old running a hard life with a lot of KM’s on them. Air suspension optioned cars, the systems last about 8 years and not expensive to replace. Very simple system. It go to springs.
The 2003 (D2a) 4.6 V8 slipper liners is not a design fault, it’s caused by overheating which in terms is a cooling system not maintained!
These engines are designed to run at 96c to get around emissions, therefore cooling systems need to be tip top. Hoses, waterpump, thermostat change, viscous fan test and rad flush needs to be done at 10 years. A half sludged up radiator or any leak can cause these issues.
So an overheating 4.6 (only made in 2003) (year they finished) is 6 years overdue if not done if not done to date.
I recently watched a UA-cam video where someone bought a D2a V8 4.6 with a known cooling system problem, took it off roading on a hot day...... guess what happened! ..... yes it overheated...... who fault was it ...... Land Rover!..FFS.
People need to understand these car before they blame them as being unreliable. In most cases it’s owner neglect and age combined.
As wizard said some really good quality ones are cheap due to this.
The body and interiors are really built to last. Electrics are good and simple if any issues.
Parts are now really cheap. Absolutely brilliant off-road. Super comfortable as they are based on a Range Rover Classic chassis.
Known issues are :
Leaking sunroofs due to blocked drains. (Lots of cars suffer this) have one without a sunroof to avoid!
ABS sensor lights ‘The 3 Amigos’. ABS Sensor wires wear out or a $80 shuttle valve part as they get old. Plenty of other names do this. Land Rover owners try and bypass by soldering wires etc! Please don’t do this! Have a crash and your insurance find it you will be in a lot of trouble! 3 Amigos a cheap fix in reality.
Rover V8 Rocker Covers will leak oil eventually. Again a lot of other brands do.
Front double cardon prop shaft is a sealed for life GKN unit. Consider swapping after 10 years or get greaseabke unit. Nothing lasts for life!
Overall the youngest D2 is now 16 years old! Oldest 21 years. So like any car out of its 3-5 year warranty stuff has to be done!
I have a 2000 disco 2 4.0. I couldn't have said it better myself and I love that thing to death. Fixes are cheap and typically easy, people always told me "those cars are european so parts are hard to find and you have to have a mechanic because they're complicated and expensive blah blah blah" surprisingly, its been nothing but solid and easy to work on. Ive done a lot of preventative maintence, upgraded cooling, 180 thermostat, got a gauge to watch my Temps, watch the head gaskets l, replaced abs solenoid as well as all the normal maintence and it hasnt left me stranded no three amigos either with 180k and going strong. Great road manners and the thing rocks offroad. People just dont know how to care for the british princesses and you've done a great job of illustrating that in your comment.
I loved both my Disco 2's and I have moved on to the disco 3
I’m looking at a 2004 discovery 2 with a 300tdi swap done to it. Low miles on the engine, seems like a good buy. It just opens up a whole new layer of things I’m trying to educate myself on before pulling the trigger. Also looking at a 1990 Range Rover classic to do the tdi swap on myself. Not sure. Either option will run me about the same amount of money.
@@xtrevoreonx id take the tdi disco over the 90s range rover personally unless youre in love with the range rover look over the disco
The 4.6 is based in a old block the 3.5 (this was a nice engine, with almost no head gaskets failures or overheating problems) LR push this engine to the limit, because in 2000 they doesn´t have money to make another engine. Some people use the TD5 thermostat in the 4.6. The 3.9 in my opinion is the best with a excellent oil and not long intervals.
We had a series 1 Landrover Discovery as our family car for about 15 years, its had loads of work done on it mainly because its done around 200,000 miles, never had the engine replaced and it still works today, retired to a field to pull trailers, mowers and rollers. Thing is an amazing offroader that can do pretty much anything straight out of the box.
It’s so amazing how simplistic the guy is with his honest reviews, no drama and jazz ,
Well, there are a couple of major errors here. When he talks about the Freelander 1 (1999-2006) he puts up a picture of a Frellander II, witch acually was a good anr reliable car with its 2.2 Ford diesel engine. And he says NOTHINg about the worst Full Fat Range Rover ever, the P38A, 1994-2001. Guess how I know. The L322 from 2007-2012 are good cars, both with V8 turbodiesel and V8 supercharged petrol engines.
@@sallhameand he said that the discovery Series 2 was the wrong year range and he failed to mention the 4.0 engine before the facelift and then he said the LR4 was reliable when we know they throw timing chains constantly and coolant pipes but he never mentioned the lr3 with the 4.4 Jaguar that is very reliable. Basically every single thing on this was wrong except for talking bad about the BMW engines😂😂😂😂😂
How about a "This Not That" on Audi?
@aziath pharaoh Called Multitronic -> Total Junk
Easy. Dont buy an Allroad, B6 CVT A4, and DONT buy a B6 S4.
Buy an old B5 or TT with the 1.8T and a manual gearbox. They last forever.
Just dont buy any audi :) Rent them while under warranty.
@@InsaneBimmer agreed. I have a B5 with the 2.8 standard transmission with 133k miles, the only repair I ever needed was front upper control arms.
any audis with an auto gearbox or a V6
The Freelander picture was a 2007+ LR2 which was a reliable car. The LR2 and Evoque were essentially the same car with different trim and panels.
Former Land Rover tech here; I can confirm most of this. One thing to clarify, that Freelander he showed is actually an LR2. It was called the Freelander 2 internationally, but they realised that was a bad word here. It is *not* the same as the Freelander we got here. That pile had a 2.5 V6 developed by LR, and it was simply atrocious. Never buy a Freelander. The LR2, conversely, had a good bit of Volvo stuff in it - engine, trans, other bits inside - and actually is a pretty good little truck. I never saw many issues with them, and actually tossed around the idea of buying one. LR2: can recommend.
I have a Discovery Sport that I'm leasing now. So far my backup camera decided to show on the screen upside down. Check engine light code is telling me that my fuel rail sensor is going bad. 20 more months of this and I will never look at Land Rover again.
Drove mine for 10 years and just had issues with it but it's all better now 1k later but not bad after that long.
08 LR2(3.2 I6) owner here, thanks for cleaning the name for them. Mine has about 130k miles on it and no major issues, they deserve a good attention which they didn’t get.
Keynesian Economics I get claustrophobic when I’m sitting on the back seat of the evoques, not saying they’re bad but LR2 definitely has more rooms for me to breath especially at the back seats. I also love the lr2’s squarish look way over evoque’s, it’s a timeless design.
@@mattchen6355 my dad owns a 08 LR2 and it's one of the few diesel cars I like (here in Europe 99% were diesels). I sit in the back only one time, on a 1,5h trip, belt put all the time, it was my worse experience in the back of a car and I'm not even tall, I'm 5'7. I felt like seat was not lean backward enough. I sat in the back of a lot of cheap cars and all were better. My mom has no problem in the back, but she's much shorter. Also the cup holders and armrests (and I think that is a bigger problem in US): in the back are pretty ok, but in the front, oh, armrest a little bit narrow, too high placed and too long; as passenger I can fell the driver arm touching mine when shifting and as driver pretty uncomfortable to drive with an arm on steering wheel and one on the shifter. Front cup holders are very bad placed, I placed one accidentally in the middle of the 2, didn't fit very well and few secs later I needed to brake bc of an idiot coming from opposite direction and entering my lane in a turn and all the soda felt on the central console (some places are a little little bit sticky even today). In two years of ownership it was pretty reliable, without counting that rear doors can't lock anymore automaticaly bc of idiot passengers in the back, trunk lid button doesn't work anymore, bonnet open sensor needed to be canceled with a paper clip because it was starting randomly the alarm, parking sensors don't work, aux port is damaged because of bad positioning (why the fuck is on the rear?) and idiot passengers, right mirror don't open complete all the time and needs to be gently pushed, the haldex was broken when my dad bought it and realised only when coming back to home (fortunately it was cheap, the cost of a service for consumables and having haldex fixed at a local mechanic was only $600). Despite all of that is a good car, and I consider buying one for myself. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't feel good in the corners (I assume it's because of the high center of gravity and tbh I didn't drive or sit in another SUV and pay attentions to that).
I worked at Land Rover HQ in 1998-99, and sat near customer care. Heard of countless transmission issues on Discovery, then Range Rover fuel line leaks that would catch fire after the car was parked! Really enjoyed the Disco II with the active steering, which reminded me of the Prelude SH. That said, it was the most fun corporate place to work.
Hi 2017 HSE Diesel would you recommend it?
@@bionicambassadordepends on how much you like Jaguars
So 99 is known for bad transmissions
I’ve had quite a bit of experience with Land Rover over the years.
1996 Discovery - had “issues” but only left me stranded once in 160-170k miles (water pump failed)
1999 Discovery II - head gasket went around 99k, I replaced it for a fraction of the cost of dealer and it ran good up until we traded
2006 LR3 with the Ford V6, other than air suspension which has been switched for coils it’s been pretty reliable- longest owned for me-still own
1993 Range Rover SWB w 4.2 motor, this thing was a major hooptie even lower than Tyler Hoover standards
2009 Range Rover Supercharged. What an awesome rig this was, until it wasn’t. It’s been at the dealer since I traded it over 6 months ago and they still haven’t figured out what was wrong w it
2016 Discovery Sport. This thing has been pretty reliable so far, though I purchased CPO and added warranty after the 2009 Range scared me
Actually the 06-09 L322's with the Jag motors, particularly the Supercharged, are the most reliable LR/RR so far this century. The 4.2SC puts out 396HP and it takes care of itself quite nicely on the road and it sounds great when it's all wound up. The RR Sport L320 used the same motors but had some other issues that drop them down a notch or two, being based on the LR3 it shares those issues. I agree on the first few years of the L322 with the BMW motors and am not a fan at all of the Jag 5.0 with the bad timing guides.
The 4.4 Jaguar engine is one of the best.
Shame more D3s here in Aus weren't bought with the 4.4, easily the best motor in those discos.
This guy recommending d4 and not mentioning anything about the 3L that is a bit of a time bomb.
Yeah this guy got everything wrong. From saying that the LR4 was reliable in the V8 to his not mentioning the lr3 with a 4.4 to his getting the discovery Series 2 years wrong LOL he said they went until 2006 when we all know it's 2004 and then he mentioned the 4.6 but not the 4.0😂😂
I bought my Audi A6 from one of your videos many months later it’s still running perfect. I’ve had no maintenance issues and the 2.0t I4 is still running strong. Cheers from Chicago
The Freelander pictured is not the awful first-generation Freelander we got in the US. The first-gen Freelander is truly terrible, but the LR2/Freelander 2 that was pictured is an entirely different vehicle and actually quite reliable. The Discovery 2 from 1999 to 2002 was a much better vehicle with the 4.0 V8 than the 2003 to 2004 with the 4.6.
I have a 2012 LR2 and other than the previous owner having had the rear differential replaced it’s been a very good vehicle, and I have a 2000 Discovery 2 that actually has never required a tow in its life and ironically pulled a broken tow truck out of an intersection once.
Having worked for Montreal’s Land Rover dealer, years ago, my advice is simple.... if you have lots of money (almost rich or above) and have 2-3+ other vehicles that you can rely on (don’t ever be dependent on a Land/Range Rover!)... then the Land Rover experiences can be amazing (especially if under warranty). They truly are incredible machines... when they work! Thanks for the video.
Would I ever recommend one ..? NO! Would I love to have one..? Hell ya!
Kellington Link , you’re comment is the most honest one I’ve ever seen in regards to the Land Rover/Range Rover vehicles. Thank You 😁
@@kellingtonlink956 What would you recommend for a cheap, used vehicle that can do overlanding?
Been watching wizard for years now. I trust his advice. He is a man of character and integrity. Hi is laid back and is direct. Will not sugar coat and tells the truth. Because you posted this I’m about to get me a 2012 LR4 tomorrow.
😂 just about every single thing he said was incorrect. From the Land Rover Discovery 2 years and engine to the LR4 not having timing chain issues which it has constantly including crossover pipes but then he didn't even mention the lr3 4.4 Jaguar V8 which is the most reliable ones and they ever built. It was an extremely terrible review very very wrong😂
Im a mechanic in Colorado and i 100% agree with eveything you said. Run away!!!!!
Run away from all land rovers or from these he mentioned in red only?
I've got a full size l322 V8 petrol, no bongs, no real issues, it's done 116,000 miles and runs sweet, not even a tick from the engine, I've had it for 2 years and it's been great. Also no suspension issues either. It's just a good car.
"If you must buy a Land Rover, these will give you less pain than others."
Said the guy who never owned a Land Rover in his life...
@@cristogreyling4736 I can't respect a guy who's owned a land rover.
tyler kitter i dont need the respect from a idiot!
Sooner have a land rover over any yank or Japanese junk
I have a 1989 RR classic and it runs perfect. Not sure about the newer ones.
Actually the ones to buy are the ones with the crap motors you find on Craig’s list for a hundred bucks, you then buy a Chevy Ford or Mazda from copart that runs and drives strip out everything right down to the door locks and fit it into the LR,RR.
You will then have a nice looking and reliable vehicle for a tenth the cost of a new one.
There’s a gm transmission that connects directly to the Range Rover transfer case and the Ford, Mazda V6 was used in some LR vehicles the ZF transmission was used in numerous vehicles including Ford Mercedes and Chrysler so if it has a removable bell housing you may be able to swap it.
But never leave the Range Rover electrics in unless you want to bury it in your backyard.
I was half expecting a 3 second video saying, DON’T BUY A LANDROVER!
hes not scotty kilmer
LandRover/jaguar are owned by China/india. No buy
hahahaha
@@missingremote4388 They are owned by the Tata Group which is Indian....
@@THEGAMINGHELP101 oh 💰
2010 and up has the newer 5.0 supercharged Jaguar engines with 510hp, the 06-09 is the 4.2 v8 and 4.2 supercharged Jaguar v8 with 300-420hp, same motor in the s type r Jaguar. The 5.0 supercharged v8 is a gem! After 2010 Range Rover and Jaguar have really stepped up their reliability and quality, thanks to Tata motors! I’ve owned 7 rovers, amazing SUVs.
I'm looking at a 2010 RRS 5.0 supercharged. how many miles do you have on yours?
@@EricLamb - purchased mine with 74k miles, waterpump went out around 95k miles, changed Waterpump and it was fine. Great suvs
@@adamsdailydriveway I’m looking to get a 2011-2012 Range Rover sport. Looking for ones in the 16-18k range with like 90-100k miles and well maintained. I can spend a thousand here and there for maintenance and issues but is going to like get out hand?
@@eugeneabreut5208 the 2010 models are pretty reliable, the early model 2010-2012 do have waterpump and timing chain tensioners that can go bad after time, u will hear a rattle sound at cold start, lightens up but then becomes more pronounced after time, suspension is pretty good not many issues there, they are better then the 4.2 and the 4.4 engines.
Have you had any experience with a 2013-2015 5.0?
I actually had the pleasure of owning a second hand Land Rover Discovery Series 1, did it have issues? PLENTY. Did I regret selling it? YES. Would I buy another? HELL YES. I just went in knowing exactly what I was going to get. While it did have issues, it never did leave me stranded on the side of the road. Not to mention, it was absolutely fun to drive offroad.
i like how you switch the car picture as you talk back and forth about the different cars it makes it easy to follow along.
I had a 2011 LR2 and had no problems out of it the entire time I owned it. I sold the LR2 when I bought my 2014 tundra but I loved and still miss that car.
My dad owned a Series 1 discovery and I loved it as a child. He ended warping the head (didn't top up the radiator for a long time and overheated) but it was an amazing capable off roader. Loved being constantly told by all the LC/Hilux owners how much better off-road their 4x4s were while being towed out by dad's crappy unreliable discovery.
Those LC/Hiluxes are still on the road while dads discovery isn’t
@@AG-rk5hj😂
Could you do a "Buy This Not That" video for Volkswagen?
Don't buy any Volkswagen with an engine that was designed during the last 20 years.
@@Mgoblagulkablong that's a lie lol, go back to Scotty.
It would be, don't buy any, cuz their company's a giant fraud.
Just to be clear, I love VWs and, to each his/her own...
I am aware that VWs are not going to be like Toyota's nor do they maintain Toyota's phenomenal reliability. To put it very bluntly if I wanted Toyota I would've bought one, but you can't get a Toyota in a stick anymore (other than the Toyota Corolla Hatchback)...
@@thooke222 Please enlighten me.
I've been running our Disco TD5 for a trouble free 7 years. I do my own maintenance and repairs. The only time we needed recovery was a couple of weeks after we bought it, a snapped auxiliary belt. I've put in a new clutch which was a heavy job but I can do most maintenance and repairs myself. I do have the advantage that I own a small engineering company but once you move up to the TD4 lots of jobs become 'body off' and I don't really have the facilities for this. I hate the idea of not being able to work on my own car myself. My advice would be to preempt cooling issues, new rad if it looks sketchy, new coolant pipes, thermostat and pump.
"No! The Disco 1 blows head gaskets!"
"They ALL blow head gaskets"
I got a genuine laugh out of that.
*gazes outside at an L312 Range Rover in the driveway*
my old girl, an early 3 door just run for ever on anything I put in its tank, had it 10 years, sold it at 240.000 miles still as sweet as a nut, never needed glow plugs to start as I had 2 big 12 volt batteries under the bonnet, 200 DTI a legend of an engine
Got a 97 disco 1 300tdi cam belt done never had head gasket go --- lots a welding tho
@@simonpage9980 Had a 1991 200 DTi almost given me by a buddy that needed work but drove fine.. Owned that 10 happy years but needed the unseen body parts welded or prefabricated and welded coz i can.. I maintained it very well and it drove like a car, an unstoppable car at whatever you threw at it to do. Made all my own service tools to do timing belt and injection pump timing spot on (crank pully holder, reinforced crank pully socket, Injection pump timing pin, flywheel timing pin, bought a 3 foot breaker bar, plus I had a scaffold tube) but since bought a 240 V mains rattle gun - magic bit of kit.. Still got boxes of spares.. Ran 2 normal sized batteries wired as 12 volt but huge amount of amps Always started no heater plugs needed and i ran it on 50/50 derv and new cheap cooking oil with a splash of unleaded to keep it all clean.. sold it to a collector at 240.000 miles he phoned when he got home to say its the best Disco hes driven and he had a barn full/ I needed an auto one, bought a auto derv hippo, love it, but looking for a 200/300DTI autobox one or a TD5 with swiss cheese chassis - have welder can fix - lol
Yeah this review was bad he even said that the discovery Series 2 went until 2006 LOL he failed to mention both engines and he said the LR4 was reliable but didn't even mention the lr3 with a 4.4😂 most reliable engine?
I am glad you did not mention the RR P38, most people are scared of them, but after 10 years of ownership of a 4.6 HSE i cannot fault them for value for money and reliability if you look after them on a cheap budget.
I own one too, granted, its the 2.5DT model and currently not road legal as it was long abandoned, but im fixing it slowly.
4.6 here too. It works fine. Drinks like a thirsty fish but it's not like I put tons of miles on it. Comfy, big, tows small buildings, great for long trips and off road.
I have a 2007 Range Rover sport L320 with 165,000 miles (2.7 TDV6 Ford lion v6) and the only problem I have had is the rear toe link spindles in 9 months ownership. Even did a 2,000 miles family road trip. Best car I’ve owned. I used to have a 2013 A45 amg but would have the Range Rover any day.
That era ford derived land rover are very good cars, I almost wonder if Ford kept them if they would have been better cars. I've got a 319 LR3/discovery of the same vintage with the 4.4 gas engine it's basically the same car as your 320. It's still kicking super reliable, never been stuck, never been towed very little ever breaks on it. Suspension parts are a problem but the motor is solid and lots of parts of the car are just beefy. I've had mine 12 years tried to replace it with a new one and found myself driving it while the new one was in the shop, LRNA wound up buying my L405 back and I'm back driving the lr3, not sure I'm going to replace it yes it has minor issues from time to time but it is a great car and has never left me stranded.
Update? Any issues?
I own a 2003 Discovery 2, like you mentioned, the engine did drop a liner making it into the proverbial boat anchor. I replaced it with a fresh rebuild with "top hatted" liners that keep them from slipping ever again. I recently got to 110,000 miles and aside from the engine, it has been completely reliable in all aspects. I found it well worth the price consider how little I paid to get a very capably SUV that can go from off in the mud in the morning to taking me to a show on broadway in the evening with only a bath in between. Love my Disco!
I used to work at a small used car dealership and we often sold cars on consignment. We were so small that I often made repairs myself to keep at least a little bit of profit in the sale.
I sold a bright yellow Defender 90 after replacing the broken plastic instrument cluster housing with a metal one and finding a short to the tail lights.
We also had a newer-model turbocharged Range Rover with a non-functioning turbo. I replaced a power seat switch but the turbo repair was beyond anything I'd fool with.
Anyway, I only know enough about them to know I don't want one.
Had an evoque with a check engine light, ended up replacing the turbo, $7k job, glad it’s covered under the warranty at 20k miles, my conclusion is if someone in the bracket of getting new cars every couple years, otherwise I will stick with Toyota and Lexus.
Both of you are correct. ANYBODY with a sense of some car knowledge would know not to buy a Land/Range Rover. It's sad that people that are mechanically not inclined would buy a money pit. I on the other hand so badly want a either 2007 Lexus IS 250 AWD or a 2008 (or 2007) Lexus GS 350 AWD. Either way if I end up getting the IS I'll probably supercharge that V6. Maybe put some nice 20" or 22" ers on that.
Man I wish there were more ppl like you out there. I've had a 1995 Land Rover Discovery since 2004. Bought with 116k miles on it. Burns some oil, eats some gas and alternators, but otherwise been great. After a brake job the master cylinder went out on it and service inspection said just about the whole brake system was bad. $1800 bill sidelined it for me ( storage jail ). Got just enough to fix it, then decided maybe good to invest in a gas saver. Fuel costs alone saved should fix the Rover in 5-6 months.....wrong. $1800 140k mile Ford Focus has cost me $18k all in ( just maintenance and purchase price @ approx $4-800 every 4-10 months including one $6800 engine+ bill ). Needless to say everyone tells me to sell the Rover. THANK YOU for saying it's one of the good ones. V8, Mech Center Diff, AWD, Solid Axles, just the right weight. It's my baby tank. No plans on selling. Mom's from England and I'm proud to have my Land Rover. 1995 white still shines. Hoping to have it back on the road before 2023. Happy Rovering.
Hey Wizard, haven't you heard, 90 percent of all LandRovers ever made are still on the road...the other 10 percent actually made it home...
But I've had a 1998 Disco D1Tdi for the past 10 years and it's been pretty reliable, very capable off road. Wouldn't bother with anything later from LandRover.
@BERGKVIST "Some say", now that's a Jeremy Clarkson-ism, who, indeed are the "some". I could venture, "some say" that they haven't made a good LandRover since the series vehicles, it's all too subjective.
Just go with what you know...
The tdi is bullet proove well serviced it will run well in the 300k range
Disco 2 is actually pretty good, the td5 is pretty bulletproof, the V8 not quite as much. But again most car trouble is just down to lack of proper maintenance. Which is why I never listen to anyone that doesn’t work or know much about cars when they talk about reliability.
Like the head gasket is a known issue for the V8, so replace it every 90,000 miles and you’ll be fine. Not the greatest for those not mechanically inclined. But in the long run it’ll be cheaper than replacing the engine.
@@th3airraidsir3n5 my Disco 2 2001 Td5 has 350.000km on it, change oil and coolant regulary and it runs forever. I have put 200.000km on it in years
I've owned a 2003 Range Rover HSE since 2015.Yes,many repairs.However,after replacing steering column,rebuilt,runs fine.Oh yes, performed timing chain guides 2018.I still enjoy the Rover.
I had an 03 Discovery 2 and the years I had it I never had issues with it but definitely not a truck for the owner who doesn't wrench or change their own oil. New cooling system is a must as the stock cooling system and water pumps tend to go back which should be the first thing to replace is the pump and radiator. I still hope to own a Discovery 1 someday as those are nicer imo.
Yeah sometimes this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. What's funny is he also mentioned the Disco series 2 as 02 to 04.... Not even mentioning that it's actually 99 to 04
I would like to see a “Buy this, not that” for Ford, Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, Audi, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, GMC, Mitsubishi, or Jeep
The LR2’s are not the same as the earlier Freelanders. Different chassis, different engine, different cars.
I whole-heartedly agree about the Disco’s. I had an ‘01 D2, and it was fun junk.
The first freelandsa had the k series engines and the mini rover 200 floor pan. The 2nd was ford engined
I wonder why the LR3 wasn't mentioned. It's widely accepted as the most reliable Land Rover ever made out there. Many hitting 300k, 400k, 500k miles etc.,
Yes, and had the same Ford 4.0 V6 as Explorers, which were Very reliable, mine has over 200k, never touched anything except the TPS sensor.
Because this review was terrible LOL I own an lr3 4.4 and a discovery series to 4.0 and pretty much everything you said was wrong it was pretty funny when he said the discovery Series 2 was built until 2006😂 looks like he just likes to make money off of views
The only land rover I'd consider as an english guy is a land rover discovery 4. I worked with lots of them doing export dock work in the south of england, and it was the only land/range rover I didn't have problems with. The 3.0 TDV6 was the engine that worked the best, but I'm not sure they were exported to the USA.
This is literally the best series on UA-cam
My mother used to drive a 1965 series 2 Land Rover around London during the 90s. Used to play “let’s go fast over the speed bumps and see how far we could fly off the seats” fun times. From what I remember it was actually quite reliable.
P.s Lincoln or Cadillac this not that ;)
Just wanted to mention (prior to watching this) that for some unknown reason I keep being in the right place at the right time regarding purchasing vehicles. It is uncanny. It keeps happening, decade after decade and I have not ever put one ounce of thought into it. It can be to do with cars, SUVs, vans, motorbikes. Sometimes I am not even out looking for anything but with a friend who wants something and I suddenly see something I really like. Sometimes not even on the first visit does this happen. A real plus and very odd but in a very good way. I have ended up with anniversary machines and more.
Totally didn’t expect a Land Rover video. Disco I and II somehow hold their values good here in Canada. A lot of people are asking $10k-$15k+ for nice ones.
my mom had a land rover discovery from 2000s or something. i remember sitting inside it in the garage because it needed a new motor. it was given to her as a gift lmao
You always need a bumper-to-bumper unlimited mileage warranty (from CarMax haha)
Who sells unlimited mileage warranties on Land Rovers?
Laughs in DeMuro
@@risingembersgaming7740 there are 5 out of 25 I contacted that do
Four years ago I bought a 2010 Range Rover Sport HSE with 99,000 miles on it. I traded my paid off 2007 Escalade and left the dealer owing just $11,000 for the Rover. When I got it home I had it serviced for about $800. Today it has 114,000 miles on it. The only time it has ever gone down in four years is when the battery died. It has been unexpectedly very reliable, it's fast and fun to drive. One of the BEST vehicle purchases I've ever made.
I bought a 2009 BMW 750Li eight months ago. It had only 85,000 miles on it and had a clean (on paper) maintenance history. I paid $12,000 for it. Sadly, it cost me $6000 to stop all the BMW "bongs" that started two days after I bought it. Additionally, BMW are the total cost of rebuilding the engine due the bad valve stem seals. It hasn't given me any problems in 4 months, but I still get scared every time I turn it on that another "bong" is coming. One of the worst vehicle purchases I've ever made. Actually, it's the worst vehicle purchase I've ever made.
I'd like to have an old 40s or 50s Land Rover like the one in the movie "The gods must be crazy". It was the star of the film, its idling engine sound so soothing! ;)
Old Land Rover were built for the army those were made to last ,,,today there for people who don’t value there money or don’t know any better
I know. It wouldn't be a daily driver anyways, but it would get me where there are no roads :-)
@@Seegalgalguntijak Land Cruiser is the best vehicle for your money in that regard.
@Sans Freedom I'd rather get a Lada Niva then, they are even cheaper and possibly even better to come by where I am (although you'll have to look out for rust issues).
@Mr Duckhead That can very well be (I'm not really versed in their models), I just know that it sounded really great.
Can confirm the 10-13’ LR4 and RRS, water pump and crossover tubing as well as alternator have been the only issues with mine so far. Also make sure to use the parking brake often or else it will seize, and that makes for a no-fun time.
I can confirm this. Have a 12' rrs. Just got my stucked parking brake replaced and it cost me 3000$. I'm also having a coolant leak issue right now but I'm not planning to fix it since it leaking really slow. Is there any other problems you've met? Just wanna take precaution.
Crank is next ask me
Lr3 4.4 V8 was the best LR/Jag motor.
yeah. Yet this expert didn't even feel the need to mention it...
1995 LR discovery, roof racks, Trail lights, heavy duty bumper with winch 116 k zero rust super big thing in Minnesota $1500. My mechanic says go for it. "You've done worse" I think I'll buy it tomorrow. I feel a lot better having the car Wizards blessing as well.
$1300 -97
I like how you dont talk crap about certain car manufactures like scotty kilmer
Scotty is crap......🤣
It was very refreshing to hear someone talk about something without shoving a Toyota and Honda down my throat
Grew up with a '00 Disco II and only 2 head gaskets blew up! I'll never get rid of it. 4.0L Rover V8 for the win.
I would never buy one of these vehicles. I would buy a Mitsubishi Outlander with the 3 L V6 engine instead.
The second-generation of the Outlander is fairly cheaper than the third-generation. My father drives the third-gen.
A best friend of mines father owns 2 Land Rover (2 Discovery's from 1991 and "94") and still riding strong for over 25+ years.
Thanks brotha I’m on the edge of getting a LR4 and I’m so glad you and a few others have rated this vehicle reliable.
Me too, have you gotten yours yet?
Don't do it the lr3 is much more reliable this video was completely inaccurate. He also said the discovery Series 2 was built until 2006 but it really was 2004😂😂😂
You forgot to talk about the LR3 Discovery 3
Same
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@@sar1521 FYI, I bought one since this comment, It's been great so far
@@chanceym6000 thanks. I've been really wanting to get one. Been looking at a couple close to me and went and checked one out this week. Just trying to find the best deal. Good to know you are liking yours.
One thing I also did notice, he slipped up and said the LR4 had a Ford engine, that actually isn’t correct, they only had Jaguar motors, it was the LR3 that had Ford motors, you could get a Ford V6 as an option
I picked up a 98' Disco 1 SE7 back in 2010 for $850 that didn't run (before buying it I noticed it didn't have fuel pressure) and replaced the in tank walbro with a 155gph unit @ $100. In severe weather that truck survived 2 wrecks, multiple colorado off road trips, and a ton of abuse for 5 years and I ended up trading it for a truck while still running fine. It was pretty indestructible
Loved my mk1 discovery. Spent a lot of time under the bonnet. However living in UK parts are cheap as chips. And it's easy to work on.
I've had my 03 D2 since hs.12 yrs later with 145k miles, and it is still running great. Only the random 3 amigos making inspections hard to pass but never running rough and never stranded with engine failure or stuck on a trail, and I keep flying by all the jeeps if they don't need help.
I’ve heard that the LR3 was actually a fairly reliable vehicle as well. The motor was a 4.4 V8 that was designed by Ford when they owned Jaguar. I’ve heard they had air suspension problems, but all and all they were decent vehicles from what I’ve heard.
The only air suspension problems I've had with the lr3 was when the air struts went out. By the way here on the US you could either have the good Ford v6 or the basically Ford v8, I got the v8. If you get the tab recall thing for the air compressor from Hitachi to amk you're good. But the air struts cost the same as struts for other cars if not less. The difference is that once the air struts break you have to replace it unlike a normal strut. But most air struts lost roughly 160,000 miles. Plus what normal spring strut keeps factory tolerances like the air struts.
Front air struts need replacement due to heat from engine…rear should be good for life
Yeah he screwed up this review big time. The lr3 is way more reliable than the LR4 blows the timing chains and coolant pipes. Also the discovery Series 2 he said was built until 2006 but it was 2004 LOL
I'm from Australia, so this info is not needed for me, but i love watching this channel anyway and Hoovies. Lots of great honest mechanic info here and i can relate what he says over to our cars here so always something to gain. Also like his large working area without clutter.
3 thumbs up from Australia!
My mom has the Freelander 2 2007 SE 171kw i6 3.2 engine made by volvo. The engine seems to be very reliable. Hers has done 150000km. I've seem some on the 2nd market do 250000km+. The only problem is it burns oil. Mostly common on the 06-07 model engines. The transmission is Aisin (made by Toyota) and seems to be bulletproof.
Land Rover told their customers to change oil like... never, almost, but if you change it every 10000 km or once per year, it's good. Transmission every 30000 or two years. Coolant every two years, haldex and diff - oil and filter clean every 20000km. Good to go.
I have a Disco 2, 2001 with a Td5, love it, maintainance is important if you want it to last. Change oil and cooling liquit regulary. I have had it since 2015 and it had 168.000km on it when I got it, now its up to 320.000km and still has great compression and does not burn any oil, but it leaks oil from engine, gearbox and transferbox ( real Land Rover do that ).
Great travel and offroad truck. Planing to keep it 4ever
Love how Mrs Wizard shouted “so did I!” 😂😂😂😂
I daily drive my 1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE (also known for problems...) since a few years but it´s pretty reliable ! I have to mention that i replaced the suspension air bags before they were aged to badly. The old Buick sourced V8 is fun to drive and expect some gasket problems and bad MPG very good.
The best one is a Land NOver. Wouldn't touch any Land Rover/Range Rover product from the early 90s on. We English all know that!
Isn't it annoying when your country could put out a good product but doesn''t. Look at the U.S.its the same. We could build the best cars in the world and once did but not now.
@@robertwoodpa6463 Yes agreed. Just like to cut corners for maximum profit. I own a 88 Dakota LE V6. That thing is bullet proof and never misses a beat.
@@Blue-moon12
Old range rovers are actually reliable? Educate me please
@@V_For_Vigilante Are you saying I said they were reliable?
That's because some of you Brits don't service your cars. You buy them second hand cheap and don't service the properly and just sell them on. Iøve seen that so many times. They are all too often rusty, and broken, with bad cheap skate fixes, not real repairs. That said, I have had my Lotus Esprit for more than 13 years, and it's perfectly reliable, save two plastic gears in the lift up head light - 60 gbp and one hour at home changing them, and it's fine, + one clutch slave that gave up after 25 years of trouble free service. 5,60 gbp and ... one hour at home changing it. That's all. Not even Toyota can do that.
There is always two sides of a story about car reliability.
Cheers.
I had a 2006 LR3 and ran up the mileage to 170k before I got rid of it and it was hands down one of the best vehicles I've ever owned (and I've owned over 350 vehicles). The gas mileage was nothing to write home about, but It had the factory rear locker and it went anywhere and it was an Amazing Camping Rig. It was also extremely reliable, had very few issues in all of those miles.
Scotty won't be able to sleep with the Wizard recommending Dodge Avengers and Land Rovers to the masses. x D
Even Wizard mentioned Toyota and Honda are the most reliable cars ever.
I have been running a 2005 L322 Range Rover TD6 for 2 years. No problems whatsoever. Service it religiously and don’t drive it like a sports car. One of the most reliable cars I have owned..
Hey wizard! I own a 1975 series 3 Land Rover and it’s so fun to drive! It rarely breaks.... and when it does, it’s so simple to fix and to work on.
As soon as I saw the CAR WIZARD, I immediately trusted his advice, good stuff
Love our LR4! Very reliable. LR3's are good too, but avoid the V-6 version.
Which year and engine option should o get? And which to avoid?
I wanna get an LR4
@@DiaperSNiFFER LR4 to avoid 2010-2012, unless they had the timing chain work done. Also IMHO the 5.0 V8 it's the way to go with these vehicles since they almost weight 6000 lbs.
@@agcamprubi4544 thank you 🙏 so much!!! I really appreciate the knowledge!
@@agcamprubi4544 why would the fact it's a 6000 pound vehicle sway you? What are your thoughts on the 2013 LR4?
I have a 2010 RR Sport tdv6, during jaguar land rover era (thank god). Only major issue ive had was the air suspension, replaced once in 14 years. Lovely car
Just a bit of clarification. The Evoque shown is the 2018 onwards version. Then the picture of the Freelander is the 2006 to 2014 version, which is not too bad. The original Freelander looked completely different and was pretty unreliable as you say.
So, Freelander 2 > Freelander?
Correction: 2005 Ford bought Land Rover so the later 05 and on LR/RR had the Jag 4.4L V8 or 4.2L Super Charged in them and are reliable.
So 2002-early 2005 were the BMW made models and had reliability issues.
So happy on my 96 discovery 1...just minor maintenance problems
Thanks for the comment about Land Rover Discover 4. Time to start saving for one 😎.
Gotta say I love my Disco 2 that being said I knew what I was getting into
I was just looking and talking about these cars yesterday and telling my girl they’re like the bmws, gotta know which ones are okay and which ones to avoid, and if you’re not sure just avoid the entire brand, but buddy breaks it down here so that’s cool thanks pal.
Shalom ✌🏼
You got some info wrong on LR4. LR4 starts from 2010, not 2009. and V6 Supercharged starts from 2014, not 2016. and 2011 and 2012 models got terrible timing chain issue.
I agree with the previous comment. I had a 2003 Freelander and the engine failed at 105,000 miles. I bought a 2013 LR2 and it was completely a different car! I sought advise from a Land Rover mechanic about the LR2 and I had an outstanding report. Evoke and Discovery models have the same engine as my LR2. If you want a good advise, please listen to a Land Rover mechanic instead of any critic on UA-cam!!! Call someone who works on Land Rovers!
The LR3 was also very reliable. I owned one. I have an LR4. It is the most reliable vehicle, truck or otherwise, I have ever owned.
*ping* crawl mode activated :)
yess that old discovery 1! I neverrrr had an issue. Nothing. upgraded after 2 years like a fool. Still is the most reliable vehicle ive ever owned
Ive got my wallet ready... I'm so excited to find out what Rover I can buy.
Such a briliant guy! Thanks for helping me choose a used Land Rover.
Your 97-06 freelander picture is not right. That was the newer generation LR2 which were much better than the first gen and came with an I6
True, I'm curious how many people, unfortunately, trusted this video and bought a different car instead of the LR2
He's wrong about the Freelander 2 no model had a 1.8 engine most have 2.2 diesel engine. I've had two, both done over 100000 miles never had any problems if you read the comments from people that have owned them most will say the same
I'm looking at a 2013 LR2, any advice? Have you owned an LR2?
@@vladetic3 yes 2 best cars I've owned
@@rogertaylor6386 in the US we only got gas
Had my D1 for 20+ years, great car!
A well looked after Discovery 2 is truthfully amazing, however, they're few and far between
Back in 2010 me and my better half literally broke the bank and went out to LR dealer and got ourselves into an LR4 with the V6 for her And a Range Rover Sport with the -back then- new non super charged 5.0 V8 😁 they are still with us running strong with religiously observed routine maintenance with mostly minor issues on the LR4 some of which were taken care of on warranty and the rest in later years with the help of a good friend and master mechanic 🙏🏼
The last 10 years in my humble opinion have been really good years for LR in terms of overall reliability .
I will say I have an '08 LR2 and I love mine. The only issues I've had with mine are nothing more than regular maintenance things like a coil pack here and a MAS there. Other than that I really don't have issues with it
I was looking at buying same year that is immaculate how long have you had it?
@@mattthegreat4389 I had it for about 5 years if I remember right
I have one too. Great car. You’ll spend some money at 150-170k miles but jag engine flawless.
Off- Roader
Land Cruiser 76 2 Door 4x4,
Suzuki Jimny 2 Door,
Mitsubishi Montero P 2 Door 4x4
SUV/MINI-SUV
Subaru XV,
Honda CR-V,
Toyota RAV4,
Toyota Corolla Cross
Never heard you mention the 2006 LR3 with the 4.4 motors. Ive got one and it runs smooth with over 100k on it
Mines got 196,000 miles on it. Most expensive repair was probably either the Ford "smart" alternator or the air struts. Now before someone says the airstruts go out all the time, they don't. They last for around 160,000 miles then die. New ones cost the same as normal struts for other SUVs like volvos. I would also like to point out, show me a normal struts that is within factory specs like the air struts at that mileage. But other than that I love it. Only regret not having the rear locking differential. But the TC is still very good compared to jeep, Volvo, Toyota. Hope you enjoy your lr3 as much as I do. Also, I've got the v8 too. Recommendation to people looking to get one or who own one are be mechanically inclined, be smart, and have fun. When looking one to buy make, look for one with the locking rear diff, and it has all of its paperwork and past shop records, check the cowl and wire tunnels, check the air compressor to see if it's the crappy Hitachi or the good AMK. A tool you need to buy is either the iidtool or nano evocom for diagnostics, I use iidtool.
@@ZacharySolomon0429 I never checked on the locking diff and the brand of compressor. I'll have to look into that. Maybe I got lucky
You can't kill the 4L jag engine. Seriously underrated. Probably could do 300k miles on that engine. Mines over 100k and smooth as silk, the rest of the car is basically rust but the engines a beast.
@shaunbava1801 thanks. To clarify, the 8 cylinder in the LR3?
My HSE 05 4.4 rover BMW is an absolute tank, I bought it for 500$ with a roasted trans, bought a used trans for 500 bucks and its still going strong, I bought Chinese airbags and there decent and still holding up
What do you think about the LR3 Wizard? I know they are similar to the LR4 but am curious about your opinion.
He never replied probably because he doesn’t know. The Ford engine he referred to the LR4 is actually not in the LR4 but in some LR3 trucks. Pretty reliable regardless of whether you land on the for V6 or Jaguar AJ V6.
The LR4 throws timing chains the lr3 doesn't the 4.4 Jaguar V8 is very reliable😂
I have the 2016 Land Rover with the V6, I am glad you recommend this one! It’s over 100,000 miles and I was nervous, but so far it’s been ok.
I just bought a 2016 and so far I'm just finding broken plastic parts on the seat belt buckels and a rear seat release
Super interested in a"This Not That" on Volvo.
No point. They're all excellent through 2008 at least, with the xc90's through 2015. For rwd, go 940 not 240. Don't bother with turbo unless youve gotta have it.
Overall best Volvo ever is the 2001-2007 XC70 wagon, post-05 ideally. All the P2's really. Not the most refined Euros but a good balance of quality, performance, value, durability, and elegance.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Informative though I prefer my 960 over a 940 and my 740 over a 240. I was more wondering his experience with S40/60/80/90 fix-ability and long term issues as they are modern.
@@bobbymcearlton Agreed on 960s. I have two P2 V70's, both excellent. Easy enough to work on. Unlike most opinionators, I have basically mastered the maintenance of these vehicles over the past five years. You name it I've done it. A little cramped underneath but that's fwd. The NA 5-cylinder is just dead simple and I expect great longevity. Good rust resistance. A couple of glitches that will come up but they're simple to resolve. Volvos post-Gheelee (?) I know little about and probably wouldn't buy, but only bc I want a car with a bit of identity and history. They were generous with the aluminum on the P2's: block, head, trans case, rear subframe, hood, control arms. Modern tech but very easy to troubleshoot with OBD. Good safety. Tuneable for big power but that's not really what they are. Very simple really once you know them. Suspensions are very typical.
The P80's I'm less thrilled about, owned one of those. Nearly identical structure as the P2's but the P2's are a more refined execution of that concept of what a car could be. Volvo tried several different one-off rear suspensions through the 90s, from solid live axle on the old rwd's, to a sort of primitive multilink using a single fiberglass spring (the S90's), to a wonky delta-link on the P80's (two overlapping triangles) to the 4-part multilink on the P2's that is still popular today.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Yes, my 96 965 has the IRS suspension, glorious looking thing. Havn't gone newer than 96' with my volvos though a 2002 xc70 did show up on my local second hand for $500 cad round a month ago, "weak cylinder" the said.
I've had the series 1 disco 3.9 V8 good truck no issues
series 2 Disco 4.0V8 transmission and airbag issues
Disco 3 Td 2.7 V6 Nice truck and very capable. my advice keep your coolant correct. As soon as you see a low coolant warning. Stop or you will blow a head gasket and thats a replacement motor.
Rangerover P38 4.6 HSE nice, thirsty, air bag issues.
03 L322 BMW Era or Error Engine okay but 5 speed auto makes it thirsty. Everything plastic in the cabin seemed to be break
06 L322 with the AJ2 (Ford petrol) much better 6 speed auto. Such a nice truck.
07 L320 Sport TD 2.7 definitely sportier, still capable, good power and economy again watch your fluids.
08 L320 TD 3.6 V8 So cool! amazing amount of get up and go for a diesel. Pretty good economy, nice sound. A bit more plush on the inside than the V6.
Sounds like a lot of trucks in a short time but there are two of us using them over the years. We have had Fords Exploders terrible. Toyota Landcruisers, thirsty diesels and slow to get off the mark. Nissan Safaris 4.2 turbos good, but a bit truckified for long distance.
Sorry so long. I have been told to skip the LR4 td 3.0 as the engines can lunch themselves quite early on in the piece.
The LR4 is a really great truck, which makes it pretty hard to come by, but also probably should clarify that the 2010 - 2012 have a timing tensioner issue which can grenade the engine, it's not a cheap fix either, supposedly it was fixed late 2012 and 2013. The supercharged V6 was actually added in the refresh in 2014, unfortunately a single speed diff became standard with the two speed being a kinda rare option.
I've heard many people say that if you want a 02-05 Range Rover with the BMW v8 then just buy the x5 but with the i6 engine. much more reliable and it will not need as much maintenance. there's a reason you still see plenty of those on the road.