The CAR WIZARD shares the top LAND ROVERS TO Buy & NOT to Buy!
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2019
- Taking from his years of experience working on cars the CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ shares the top Land Rovers / Range Rovers TO buy and NOT to buy!
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Love "TO Buy & NOT to Buy", do all the manufacturers!
What about GMCs, GMC is from utility to luxurious rides.
Should do a whole series
instablaster.
Toyota will be a difficult, if not impossible episode😁😅😂.
I wouldn’t regret buying an L322 Range if I got it at CarMax with a warranty and I created a UA-cam channel where every video started with me saying “THIS”
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Just buy an L322 with a 4.2 supercharged engine. Those things are virtually bulletproof where it matters.
Is that Dough Demuro guy?
@@sankara6823 I think it is 😂😂
THIS is an excellent comment I will now give it a Doug score
Like that this is genuine advice and not the crap that Scotty Kilmer says like “only buy a 1994 Toyota Celica”
LMAO
Doug DeMuro even said yeah sure it’s reliable and cheap but with the outdated safety features I really hope you don’t get hit by an Escalade
Redline Raphael Scotty is a complete stooge. My dad loves him. My though is that anyone can tell you to buy Toyota. Or Honda.
@@jrgb9945 I agree 100%
Jeez ,Scotty is a loser !
We had a series 1 Landrover Discovery as our family car for about 15 years, its had loads of work done on it mainly because its done around 200,000 miles, never had the engine replaced and it still works today, retired to a field to pull trailers, mowers and rollers. Thing is an amazing offroader that can do pretty much anything straight out of the box.
How about a "This Not That" on Audi?
@aziath pharaoh Called Multitronic -> Total Junk
Easy. Dont buy an Allroad, B6 CVT A4, and DONT buy a B6 S4.
Buy an old B5 or TT with the 1.8T and a manual gearbox. They last forever.
Just dont buy any audi :) Rent them while under warranty.
@@InsaneBimmer agreed. I have a B5 with the 2.8 standard transmission with 133k miles, the only repair I ever needed was front upper control arms.
any audis with an auto gearbox or a V6
Some D2 info. (Land Rover Specialist)
Discovery 2 (1998 to 2002) TD5 and The 4.0 V8 Are good cars. They survive well down here in Australia and many almost 20 years old running a hard life with a lot of KM’s on them. Air suspension optioned cars, the systems last about 8 years and not expensive to replace. Very simple system. It go to springs.
The 2003 (D2a) 4.6 V8 slipper liners is not a design fault, it’s caused by overheating which in terms is a cooling system not maintained!
These engines are designed to run at 96c to get around emissions, therefore cooling systems need to be tip top. Hoses, waterpump, thermostat change, viscous fan test and rad flush needs to be done at 10 years. A half sludged up radiator or any leak can cause these issues.
So an overheating 4.6 (only made in 2003) (year they finished) is 6 years overdue if not done if not done to date.
I recently watched a UA-cam video where someone bought a D2a V8 4.6 with a known cooling system problem, took it off roading on a hot day...... guess what happened! ..... yes it overheated...... who fault was it ...... Land Rover!..FFS.
People need to understand these car before they blame them as being unreliable. In most cases it’s owner neglect and age combined.
As wizard said some really good quality ones are cheap due to this.
The body and interiors are really built to last. Electrics are good and simple if any issues.
Parts are now really cheap. Absolutely brilliant off-road. Super comfortable as they are based on a Range Rover Classic chassis.
Known issues are :
Leaking sunroofs due to blocked drains. (Lots of cars suffer this) have one without a sunroof to avoid!
ABS sensor lights ‘The 3 Amigos’. ABS Sensor wires wear out or a $80 shuttle valve part as they get old. Plenty of other names do this. Land Rover owners try and bypass by soldering wires etc! Please don’t do this! Have a crash and your insurance find it you will be in a lot of trouble! 3 Amigos a cheap fix in reality.
Rover V8 Rocker Covers will leak oil eventually. Again a lot of other brands do.
Front double cardon prop shaft is a sealed for life GKN unit. Consider swapping after 10 years or get greaseabke unit. Nothing lasts for life!
Overall the youngest D2 is now 16 years old! Oldest 21 years. So like any car out of its 3-5 year warranty stuff has to be done!
I have a 2000 disco 2 4.0. I couldn't have said it better myself and I love that thing to death. Fixes are cheap and typically easy, people always told me "those cars are european so parts are hard to find and you have to have a mechanic because they're complicated and expensive blah blah blah" surprisingly, its been nothing but solid and easy to work on. Ive done a lot of preventative maintence, upgraded cooling, 180 thermostat, got a gauge to watch my Temps, watch the head gaskets l, replaced abs solenoid as well as all the normal maintence and it hasnt left me stranded no three amigos either with 180k and going strong. Great road manners and the thing rocks offroad. People just dont know how to care for the british princesses and you've done a great job of illustrating that in your comment.
I loved both my Disco 2's and I have moved on to the disco 3
I’m looking at a 2004 discovery 2 with a 300tdi swap done to it. Low miles on the engine, seems like a good buy. It just opens up a whole new layer of things I’m trying to educate myself on before pulling the trigger. Also looking at a 1990 Range Rover classic to do the tdi swap on myself. Not sure. Either option will run me about the same amount of money.
@@xtrevoreonx id take the tdi disco over the 90s range rover personally unless youre in love with the range rover look over the disco
The 4.6 is based in a old block the 3.5 (this was a nice engine, with almost no head gaskets failures or overheating problems) LR push this engine to the limit, because in 2000 they doesn´t have money to make another engine. Some people use the TD5 thermostat in the 4.6. The 3.9 in my opinion is the best with a excellent oil and not long intervals.
"If you must buy a Land Rover, these will give you less pain than others."
Said the guy who never owned a Land Rover in his life...
@@cristogreyling4736 I can't respect a guy who's owned a land rover.
tyler kitter i dont need the respect from a idiot!
Sooner have a land rover over any yank or Japanese junk
I have a 1989 RR classic and it runs perfect. Not sure about the newer ones.
The Freelander picture was a 2007+ LR2 which was a reliable car. The LR2 and Evoque were essentially the same car with different trim and panels.
Former Land Rover tech here; I can confirm most of this. One thing to clarify, that Freelander he showed is actually an LR2. It was called the Freelander 2 internationally, but they realised that was a bad word here. It is *not* the same as the Freelander we got here. That pile had a 2.5 V6 developed by LR, and it was simply atrocious. Never buy a Freelander. The LR2, conversely, had a good bit of Volvo stuff in it - engine, trans, other bits inside - and actually is a pretty good little truck. I never saw many issues with them, and actually tossed around the idea of buying one. LR2: can recommend.
I have a Discovery Sport that I'm leasing now. So far my backup camera decided to show on the screen upside down. Check engine light code is telling me that my fuel rail sensor is going bad. 20 more months of this and I will never look at Land Rover again.
Drove mine for 10 years and just had issues with it but it's all better now 1k later but not bad after that long.
08 LR2(3.2 I6) owner here, thanks for cleaning the name for them. Mine has about 130k miles on it and no major issues, they deserve a good attention which they didn’t get.
Keynesian Economics I get claustrophobic when I’m sitting on the back seat of the evoques, not saying they’re bad but LR2 definitely has more rooms for me to breath especially at the back seats. I also love the lr2’s squarish look way over evoque’s, it’s a timeless design.
@@mattchen6355 my dad owns a 08 LR2 and it's one of the few diesel cars I like (here in Europe 99% were diesels). I sit in the back only one time, on a 1,5h trip, belt put all the time, it was my worse experience in the back of a car and I'm not even tall, I'm 5'7. I felt like seat was not lean backward enough. I sat in the back of a lot of cheap cars and all were better. My mom has no problem in the back, but she's much shorter. Also the cup holders and armrests (and I think that is a bigger problem in US): in the back are pretty ok, but in the front, oh, armrest a little bit narrow, too high placed and too long; as passenger I can fell the driver arm touching mine when shifting and as driver pretty uncomfortable to drive with an arm on steering wheel and one on the shifter. Front cup holders are very bad placed, I placed one accidentally in the middle of the 2, didn't fit very well and few secs later I needed to brake bc of an idiot coming from opposite direction and entering my lane in a turn and all the soda felt on the central console (some places are a little little bit sticky even today). In two years of ownership it was pretty reliable, without counting that rear doors can't lock anymore automaticaly bc of idiot passengers in the back, trunk lid button doesn't work anymore, bonnet open sensor needed to be canceled with a paper clip because it was starting randomly the alarm, parking sensors don't work, aux port is damaged because of bad positioning (why the fuck is on the rear?) and idiot passengers, right mirror don't open complete all the time and needs to be gently pushed, the haldex was broken when my dad bought it and realised only when coming back to home (fortunately it was cheap, the cost of a service for consumables and having haldex fixed at a local mechanic was only $600). Despite all of that is a good car, and I consider buying one for myself. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't feel good in the corners (I assume it's because of the high center of gravity and tbh I didn't drive or sit in another SUV and pay attentions to that).
It’s so amazing how simplistic the guy is with his honest reviews, no drama and jazz ,
Well, there are a couple of major errors here. When he talks about the Freelander 1 (1999-2006) he puts up a picture of a Frellander II, witch acually was a good anr reliable car with its 2.2 Ford diesel engine. And he says NOTHINg about the worst Full Fat Range Rover ever, the P38A, 1994-2001. Guess how I know. The L322 from 2007-2012 are good cars, both with V8 turbodiesel and V8 supercharged petrol engines.
Just wanted to mention (prior to watching this) that for some unknown reason I keep being in the right place at the right time regarding purchasing vehicles. It is uncanny. It keeps happening, decade after decade and I have not ever put one ounce of thought into it. It can be to do with cars, SUVs, vans, motorbikes. Sometimes I am not even out looking for anything but with a friend who wants something and I suddenly see something I really like. Sometimes not even on the first visit does this happen. A real plus and very odd but in a very good way. I have ended up with anniversary machines and more.
I worked at Land Rover HQ in 1998-99, and sat near customer care. Heard of countless transmission issues on Discovery, then Range Rover fuel line leaks that would catch fire after the car was parked! Really enjoyed the Disco II with the active steering, which reminded me of the Prelude SH. That said, it was the most fun corporate place to work.
Hi 2017 HSE Diesel would you recommend it?
@@bionicambassadordepends on how much you like Jaguars
I’ve had quite a bit of experience with Land Rover over the years.
1996 Discovery - had “issues” but only left me stranded once in 160-170k miles (water pump failed)
1999 Discovery II - head gasket went around 99k, I replaced it for a fraction of the cost of dealer and it ran good up until we traded
2006 LR3 with the Ford V6, other than air suspension which has been switched for coils it’s been pretty reliable- longest owned for me-still own
1993 Range Rover SWB w 4.2 motor, this thing was a major hooptie even lower than Tyler Hoover standards
2009 Range Rover Supercharged. What an awesome rig this was, until it wasn’t. It’s been at the dealer since I traded it over 6 months ago and they still haven’t figured out what was wrong w it
2016 Discovery Sport. This thing has been pretty reliable so far, though I purchased CPO and added warranty after the 2009 Range scared me
Could you do a "Buy This Not That" video for Volkswagen?
Don't buy any Volkswagen with an engine that was designed during the last 20 years.
@@Mgoblagulkablong that's a lie lol, go back to Scotty.
It would be, don't buy any, cuz their company's a giant fraud.
Just to be clear, I love VWs and, to each his/her own...
I am aware that VWs are not going to be like Toyota's nor do they maintain Toyota's phenomenal reliability. To put it very bluntly if I wanted Toyota I would've bought one, but you can't get a Toyota in a stick anymore (other than the Toyota Corolla Hatchback)...
@@thooke222 Please enlighten me.
i like how you switch the car picture as you talk back and forth about the different cars it makes it easy to follow along.
I actually had the pleasure of owning a second hand Land Rover Discovery Series 1, did it have issues? PLENTY. Did I regret selling it? YES. Would I buy another? HELL YES. I just went in knowing exactly what I was going to get. While it did have issues, it never did leave me stranded on the side of the road. Not to mention, it was absolutely fun to drive offroad.
"No! The Disco 1 blows head gaskets!"
"They ALL blow head gaskets"
I got a genuine laugh out of that.
*gazes outside at an L312 Range Rover in the driveway*
my old girl, an early 3 door just run for ever on anything I put in its tank, had it 10 years, sold it at 240.000 miles still as sweet as a nut, never needed glow plugs to start as I had 2 big 12 volt batteries under the bonnet, 200 DTI a legend of an engine
Got a 97 disco 1 300tdi cam belt done never had head gasket go --- lots a welding tho
@@simonpage9980 Had a 1991 200 DTi almost given me by a buddy that needed work but drove fine.. Owned that 10 happy years but needed the unseen body parts welded or prefabricated and welded coz i can.. I maintained it very well and it drove like a car, an unstoppable car at whatever you threw at it to do. Made all my own service tools to do timing belt and injection pump timing spot on (crank pully holder, reinforced crank pully socket, Injection pump timing pin, flywheel timing pin, bought a 3 foot breaker bar, plus I had a scaffold tube) but since bought a 240 V mains rattle gun - magic bit of kit.. Still got boxes of spares.. Ran 2 normal sized batteries wired as 12 volt but huge amount of amps Always started no heater plugs needed and i ran it on 50/50 derv and new cheap cooking oil with a splash of unleaded to keep it all clean.. sold it to a collector at 240.000 miles he phoned when he got home to say its the best Disco hes driven and he had a barn full/ I needed an auto one, bought a auto derv hippo, love it, but looking for a 200/300DTI autobox one or a TD5 with swiss cheese chassis - have welder can fix - lol
Having worked for Montreal’s Land Rover dealer, years ago, my advice is simple.... if you have lots of money (almost rich or above) and have 2-3+ other vehicles that you can rely on (don’t ever be dependent on a Land/Range Rover!)... then the Land Rover experiences can be amazing (especially if under warranty). They truly are incredible machines... when they work! Thanks for the video.
Would I ever recommend one ..? NO! Would I love to have one..? Hell ya!
Kellington Link , you’re comment is the most honest one I’ve ever seen in regards to the Land Rover/Range Rover vehicles. Thank You 😁
@@kellingtonlink956 What would you recommend for a cheap, used vehicle that can do overlanding?
Hey thank you for the video, at first I heard the audio and I did judge the cover a sec but as soon as I saw ya pull the chair and sit down and chat I really understood your channel and I appreciate the information you gave me, you saved me the headache
This is literally the best series on UA-cam
Im a mechanic in Colorado and i 100% agree with eveything you said. Run away!!!!!
Run away from all land rovers or from these he mentioned in red only?
Hey wizard! I own a 1975 series 3 Land Rover and it’s so fun to drive! It rarely breaks.... and when it does, it’s so simple to fix and to work on.
I bought my Audi A6 from one of your videos many months later it’s still running perfect. I’ve had no maintenance issues and the 2.0t I4 is still running strong. Cheers from Chicago
I'm from Australia, so this info is not needed for me, but i love watching this channel anyway and Hoovies. Lots of great honest mechanic info here and i can relate what he says over to our cars here so always something to gain. Also like his large working area without clutter.
3 thumbs up from Australia!
Great content Wizard. I have ro add as others have done the most reliable LR product probably was the LR2. My own car is a 05' L320 4.4 and so far (3 years) its been a good companion.
I had a 2011 LR2 and had no problems out of it the entire time I owned it. I sold the LR2 when I bought my 2014 tundra but I loved and still miss that car.
Love how Mrs Wizard shouted “so did I!” 😂😂😂😂
Thanks brotha I’m on the edge of getting a LR4 and I’m so glad you and a few others have rated this vehicle reliable.
Me too, have you gotten yours yet?
Cool video! Also, great to see you this last weekend. Keep making the great content!
I would like to see a “Buy this, not that” for Ford, Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, Audi, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, GMC, Mitsubishi, or Jeep
The Freelander pictured is not the awful first-generation Freelander we got in the US. The first-gen Freelander is truly terrible, but the LR2/Freelander 2 that was pictured is an entirely different vehicle and actually quite reliable. The Discovery 2 from 1999 to 2002 was a much better vehicle with the 4.0 V8 than the 2003 to 2004 with the 4.6.
I have a 2012 LR2 and other than the previous owner having had the rear differential replaced it’s been a very good vehicle, and I have a 2000 Discovery 2 that actually has never required a tow in its life and ironically pulled a broken tow truck out of an intersection once.
Actually the 06-09 L322's with the Jag motors, particularly the Supercharged, are the most reliable LR/RR so far this century. The 4.2SC puts out 396HP and it takes care of itself quite nicely on the road and it sounds great when it's all wound up. The RR Sport L320 used the same motors but had some other issues that drop them down a notch or two, being based on the LR3 it shares those issues. I agree on the first few years of the L322 with the BMW motors and am not a fan at all of the Jag 5.0 with the bad timing guides.
The 4.4 Jaguar engine is one of the best.
Shame more D3s here in Aus weren't bought with the 4.4, easily the best motor in those discos.
This guy recommending d4 and not mentioning anything about the 3L that is a bit of a time bomb.
Wizard blowin up ! So glad to see ur channel doing well. Yeah I had a one owner 1998 Range Rover with the 4.0. Omg. It ate coolant like the ham burglar eats burgers
Totally didn’t expect a Land Rover video. Disco I and II somehow hold their values good here in Canada. A lot of people are asking $10k-$15k+ for nice ones.
I've been running our Disco TD5 for a trouble free 7 years. I do my own maintenance and repairs. The only time we needed recovery was a couple of weeks after we bought it, a snapped auxiliary belt. I've put in a new clutch which was a heavy job but I can do most maintenance and repairs myself. I do have the advantage that I own a small engineering company but once you move up to the TD4 lots of jobs become 'body off' and I don't really have the facilities for this. I hate the idea of not being able to work on my own car myself. My advice would be to preempt cooling issues, new rad if it looks sketchy, new coolant pipes, thermostat and pump.
Loved my mk1 discovery. Spent a lot of time under the bonnet. However living in UK parts are cheap as chips. And it's easy to work on.
I had an 03 Discovery 2 and the years I had it I never had issues with it but definitely not a truck for the owner who doesn't wrench or change their own oil. New cooling system is a must as the stock cooling system and water pumps tend to go back which should be the first thing to replace is the pump and radiator. I still hope to own a Discovery 1 someday as those are nicer imo.
Yeah sometimes this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. What's funny is he also mentioned the Disco series 2 as 02 to 04.... Not even mentioning that it's actually 99 to 04
The only land rover I'd consider as an english guy is a land rover discovery 4. I worked with lots of them doing export dock work in the south of england, and it was the only land/range rover I didn't have problems with. The 3.0 TDV6 was the engine that worked the best, but I'm not sure they were exported to the USA.
I've got a full size l322 V8 petrol, no bongs, no real issues, it's done 116,000 miles and runs sweet, not even a tick from the engine, I've had it for 2 years and it's been great. Also no suspension issues either. It's just a good car.
I am glad you did not mention the RR P38, most people are scared of them, but after 10 years of ownership of a 4.6 HSE i cannot fault them for value for money and reliability if you look after them on a cheap budget.
I own one too, granted, its the 2.5DT model and currently not road legal as it was long abandoned, but im fixing it slowly.
So happy on my 96 discovery 1...just minor maintenance problems
Actually the ones to buy are the ones with the crap motors you find on Craig’s list for a hundred bucks, you then buy a Chevy Ford or Mazda from copart that runs and drives strip out everything right down to the door locks and fit it into the LR,RR.
You will then have a nice looking and reliable vehicle for a tenth the cost of a new one.
There’s a gm transmission that connects directly to the Range Rover transfer case and the Ford, Mazda V6 was used in some LR vehicles the ZF transmission was used in numerous vehicles including Ford Mercedes and Chrysler so if it has a removable bell housing you may be able to swap it.
But never leave the Range Rover electrics in unless you want to bury it in your backyard.
Thank you! this was a great instructional video. I always wanted a Land Rover, they are just great cars, but I want one that doesn't give me too many problems. Your video was very good in terms of showing us which one to buy and which one not to buy. Thank you!
I have an ALL ORIGINAL Series III that I have owned for decades. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that as one to get because it’s super reliable. I have only had to replace the chassis, head gasket (2x), points/distributor, wiring harness (front and back), alternator, air filter (upgraded from oil bath to modern), radiator, brakes and lines, firewall, seats, paint, rear axles (they snap all the time), the distributor gear-that is a real pain to change, speedo, temperature gauge, horn, pretty much every light and floor mats. I upgraded by adding seatbelts, disc brakes and a new fuel tank. I would mention how many miles I have on the vehicle, but there was a short period of time (about 20 years) when the odometer wasn’t working.
Hey Wizard, haven't you heard, 90 percent of all LandRovers ever made are still on the road...the other 10 percent actually made it home...
But I've had a 1998 Disco D1Tdi for the past 10 years and it's been pretty reliable, very capable off road. Wouldn't bother with anything later from LandRover.
@BERGKVIST "Some say", now that's a Jeremy Clarkson-ism, who, indeed are the "some". I could venture, "some say" that they haven't made a good LandRover since the series vehicles, it's all too subjective.
Just go with what you know...
The tdi is bullet proove well serviced it will run well in the 300k range
Disco 2 is actually pretty good, the td5 is pretty bulletproof, the V8 not quite as much. But again most car trouble is just down to lack of proper maintenance. Which is why I never listen to anyone that doesn’t work or know much about cars when they talk about reliability.
Like the head gasket is a known issue for the V8, so replace it every 90,000 miles and you’ll be fine. Not the greatest for those not mechanically inclined. But in the long run it’ll be cheaper than replacing the engine.
@@th3airraidsir3n5 my Disco 2 2001 Td5 has 350.000km on it, change oil and coolant regulary and it runs forever. I have put 200.000km on it in years
Can confirm the 10-13’ LR4 and RRS, water pump and crossover tubing as well as alternator have been the only issues with mine so far. Also make sure to use the parking brake often or else it will seize, and that makes for a no-fun time.
I can confirm this. Have a 12' rrs. Just got my stucked parking brake replaced and it cost me 3000$. I'm also having a coolant leak issue right now but I'm not planning to fix it since it leaking really slow. Is there any other problems you've met? Just wanna take precaution.
Crank is next ask me
Very good content, from someone who actually knows. Much appreciated.
He actually got a lot wrong. Mixed up vehicles and engines on much of it. Seems like he did some googling for a half hour and didn’t fact check anything.
I daily drive my 1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE (also known for problems...) since a few years but it´s pretty reliable ! I have to mention that i replaced the suspension air bags before they were aged to badly. The old Buick sourced V8 is fun to drive and expect some gasket problems and bad MPG very good.
My mother used to drive a 1965 series 2 Land Rover around London during the 90s. Used to play “let’s go fast over the speed bumps and see how far we could fly off the seats” fun times. From what I remember it was actually quite reliable.
P.s Lincoln or Cadillac this not that ;)
I used to work at a small used car dealership and we often sold cars on consignment. We were so small that I often made repairs myself to keep at least a little bit of profit in the sale.
I sold a bright yellow Defender 90 after replacing the broken plastic instrument cluster housing with a metal one and finding a short to the tail lights.
We also had a newer-model turbocharged Range Rover with a non-functioning turbo. I replaced a power seat switch but the turbo repair was beyond anything I'd fool with.
Anyway, I only know enough about them to know I don't want one.
Had an evoque with a check engine light, ended up replacing the turbo, $7k job, glad it’s covered under the warranty at 20k miles, my conclusion is if someone in the bracket of getting new cars every couple years, otherwise I will stick with Toyota and Lexus.
Both of you are correct. ANYBODY with a sense of some car knowledge would know not to buy a Land/Range Rover. It's sad that people that are mechanically not inclined would buy a money pit. I on the other hand so badly want a either 2007 Lexus IS 250 AWD or a 2008 (or 2007) Lexus GS 350 AWD. Either way if I end up getting the IS I'll probably supercharge that V6. Maybe put some nice 20" or 22" ers on that.
Thx for the vital info about Land/ Range Rovers! I always thought all of them were terds. But now I know which ones to avoid. Thx 😁
OUTSTANDING review! Please make more!!
2010 and up has the newer 5.0 supercharged Jaguar engines with 510hp, the 06-09 is the 4.2 v8 and 4.2 supercharged Jaguar v8 with 300-420hp, same motor in the s type r Jaguar. The 5.0 supercharged v8 is a gem! After 2010 Range Rover and Jaguar have really stepped up their reliability and quality, thanks to Tata motors! I’ve owned 7 rovers, amazing SUVs.
I'm looking at a 2010 RRS 5.0 supercharged. how many miles do you have on yours?
@@EricLamb - purchased mine with 74k miles, waterpump went out around 95k miles, changed Waterpump and it was fine. Great suvs
@@adamsdailydriveway I’m looking to get a 2011-2012 Range Rover sport. Looking for ones in the 16-18k range with like 90-100k miles and well maintained. I can spend a thousand here and there for maintenance and issues but is going to like get out hand?
@@eugeneabreut5208 the 2010 models are pretty reliable, the early model 2010-2012 do have waterpump and timing chain tensioners that can go bad after time, u will hear a rattle sound at cold start, lightens up but then becomes more pronounced after time, suspension is pretty good not many issues there, they are better then the 4.2 and the 4.4 engines.
Have you had any experience with a 2013-2015 5.0?
My dad owned a Series 1 discovery and I loved it as a child. He ended warping the head (didn't top up the radiator for a long time and overheated) but it was an amazing capable off roader. Loved being constantly told by all the LC/Hilux owners how much better off-road their 4x4s were while being towed out by dad's crappy unreliable discovery.
Those LC/Hiluxes are still on the road while dads discovery isn’t
@@AG-rk5hj😂
Thanks Wizard. I needed this.
As soon as I saw the CAR WIZARD, I immediately trusted his advice, good stuff
The LR2’s are not the same as the earlier Freelanders. Different chassis, different engine, different cars.
I whole-heartedly agree about the Disco’s. I had an ‘01 D2, and it was fun junk.
The first freelandsa had the k series engines and the mini rover 200 floor pan. The 2nd was ford engined
You forgot to talk about the LR3 Discovery 3
Same
Same
@@sar1521 FYI, I bought one since this comment, It's been great so far
@@chanceym6000 thanks. I've been really wanting to get one. Been looking at a couple close to me and went and checked one out this week. Just trying to find the best deal. Good to know you are liking yours.
I love your car reviews!
Such a briliant guy! Thanks for helping me choose a used Land Rover.
What do you think about the LR3 Wizard? I know they are similar to the LR4 but am curious about your opinion.
He never replied probably because he doesn’t know. The Ford engine he referred to the LR4 is actually not in the LR4 but in some LR3 trucks. Pretty reliable regardless of whether you land on the for V6 or Jaguar AJ V6.
A best friend of mines father owns 2 Land Rover (2 Discovery's from 1991 and "94") and still riding strong for over 25+ years.
I picked up a 98' Disco 1 SE7 back in 2010 for $850 that didn't run (before buying it I noticed it didn't have fuel pressure) and replaced the in tank walbro with a 155gph unit @ $100. In severe weather that truck survived 2 wrecks, multiple colorado off road trips, and a ton of abuse for 5 years and I ended up trading it for a truck while still running fine. It was pretty indestructible
Man I wish there were more ppl like you out there. I've had a 1995 Land Rover Discovery since 2004. Bought with 116k miles on it. Burns some oil, eats some gas and alternators, but otherwise been great. After a brake job the master cylinder went out on it and service inspection said just about the whole brake system was bad. $1800 bill sidelined it for me ( storage jail ). Got just enough to fix it, then decided maybe good to invest in a gas saver. Fuel costs alone saved should fix the Rover in 5-6 months.....wrong. $1800 140k mile Ford Focus has cost me $18k all in ( just maintenance and purchase price @ approx $4-800 every 4-10 months including one $6800 engine+ bill ). Needless to say everyone tells me to sell the Rover. THANK YOU for saying it's one of the good ones. V8, Mech Center Diff, AWD, Solid Axles, just the right weight. It's my baby tank. No plans on selling. Mom's from England and I'm proud to have my Land Rover. 1995 white still shines. Hoping to have it back on the road before 2023. Happy Rovering.
I'd like to have an old 40s or 50s Land Rover like the one in the movie "The gods must be crazy". It was the star of the film, its idling engine sound so soothing! ;)
Old Land Rover were built for the army those were made to last ,,,today there for people who don’t value there money or don’t know any better
I know. It wouldn't be a daily driver anyways, but it would get me where there are no roads :-)
@@Seegalgalguntijak Land Cruiser is the best vehicle for your money in that regard.
@Sans Freedom I'd rather get a Lada Niva then, they are even cheaper and possibly even better to come by where I am (although you'll have to look out for rust issues).
@Mr Duckhead That can very well be (I'm not really versed in their models), I just know that it sounded really great.
I have a 2007 Range Rover sport L320 with 165,000 miles (2.7 TDV6 Ford lion v6) and the only problem I have had is the rear toe link spindles in 9 months ownership. Even did a 2,000 miles family road trip. Best car I’ve owned. I used to have a 2013 A45 amg but would have the Range Rover any day.
That era ford derived land rover are very good cars, I almost wonder if Ford kept them if they would have been better cars. I've got a 319 LR3/discovery of the same vintage with the 4.4 gas engine it's basically the same car as your 320. It's still kicking super reliable, never been stuck, never been towed very little ever breaks on it. Suspension parts are a problem but the motor is solid and lots of parts of the car are just beefy. I've had mine 12 years tried to replace it with a new one and found myself driving it while the new one was in the shop, LRNA wound up buying my L405 back and I'm back driving the lr3, not sure I'm going to replace it yes it has minor issues from time to time but it is a great car and has never left me stranded.
Update? Any issues?
Great video! (Enjoy all your videos) Owner of a 2000 Land Rover Discovery II, have owned it for 16 years. Just did my own head gasket replacement ( second one for this vehicle)
Thank God for this man
Gotta say I love my Disco 2 that being said I knew what I was getting into
Great video, newly added subscriber. I love you’re channel btw. A while back, I was wanting to buy a used LR but Scotty Kilmer always states how they’re all endless money pits! He recommends buying a used Toyota Land Cruiser or Lexus LX instead.
As a rover owner. I can say he's right. The Toyota will be far more trouble free mostly because it's easier to fix, not as many britishism that double repair costs. If you buy an Lr3 or 4 or a rover sport or a L322 range rover from the Ford years it can be livable but more expensive than it should be.
Thanks for this! Big help breaking it down
I’ve had an L322 and a TD5 discovery, 2 of the best vehicles I’ve ever owned, especially when well looked after
I like how you dont talk crap about certain car manufactures like scotty kilmer
Scotty is crap......🤣
It was very refreshing to hear someone talk about something without shoving a Toyota and Honda down my throat
Could you consider creating a quick video on SAAB. Just an opinion or previous work you've done to them if any?
Spencer Coleman i own both and Land Rover and a Saab. The deal with Saab’s is this. Only the 9-3 2.0T is a reliable, high selling car. Spare parts are plentiful and the cars are reliable 2006+. Other Saab’s are now speciality cars. The 9-5 2.3 has sorta ok parts supplies. Otherwise these are hobby cars now.
@@777jones That is very cool I love the 9-3 really wish I got one for that reason, but I have an 05 9-5 wagon, and I've put alot of love into that beast. Really considering getting a spare 9-5 due to the absolute hassle finding parts. After market is easy and cheap for downpipes turbos and suspension all that. For direct ignition and fuel systems or really anything having to do with internals or tranny (aside from pistons) I have to go oem, and that's difficult to find.
I just sold my 2001 Saab 9-3, a unique, true blue sports hatch that was fast, fun and always got complements. The classic 900/9-3 are built to a luxurious standard and have more character compared to the cheaper and less solid second generation 9-3 sedans. But I definitely do not miss working on it. In fact I cry with joy I never have to rip or scald my skin off again in that engine bay. The engine and transmission itself are solid, it's everything around it that would break one thing after another. What a migraine it was, too bad. I will miss driving it though, a love hate relationship.
Had my D1 for 20+ years, great car!
These Rock!
Car Wizard Rocks!!
I was half expecting a 3 second video saying, DON’T BUY A LANDROVER!
hes not scotty kilmer
LandRover/jaguar are owned by China/india. No buy
hahahaha
@@missingremote4388 They are owned by the Tata Group which is Indian....
@@THEGAMINGHELP101 oh 💰
A well looked after Discovery 2 is truthfully amazing, however, they're few and far between
Thanks for the comment about Land Rover Discover 4. Time to start saving for one 😎.
my mom had a land rover discovery from 2000s or something. i remember sitting inside it in the garage because it needed a new motor. it was given to her as a gift lmao
I own a 2003 Discovery 2, like you mentioned, the engine did drop a liner making it into the proverbial boat anchor. I replaced it with a fresh rebuild with "top hatted" liners that keep them from slipping ever again. I recently got to 110,000 miles and aside from the engine, it has been completely reliable in all aspects. I found it well worth the price consider how little I paid to get a very capably SUV that can go from off in the mud in the morning to taking me to a show on broadway in the evening with only a bath in between. Love my Disco!
Can you do a "This Not That" American luxury vehicles?
I have a Disco 2, 2001 with a Td5, love it, maintainance is important if you want it to last. Change oil and cooling liquit regulary. I have had it since 2015 and it had 168.000km on it when I got it, now its up to 320.000km and still has great compression and does not burn any oil, but it leaks oil from engine, gearbox and transferbox ( real Land Rover do that ).
Great travel and offroad truck. Planing to keep it 4ever
Is it safe to assume the 2015-2019 Discovery Sport is decent since it shares the drivetrain with the evoque?
Great video, Wizard. Really enjoying your channel.
4:00 Land Rover series 1, used Z.F. transmission (great transmission). Remember this V-8 is a Buick engine (sold in 1967). So can I replace the aluminum V-8 with a BUICK V-6????🤔
You could, but it would be a TON of work. They had different bell housing bolt patterns between the Rover Aluminum V8 (had the 1950s round Buick bolt pattern) and the rwd 3.8 V6, 300, 340, and 350 Buick engines had the more modern Buick/Olds/Pontiac bolt pattern. Electronic retrofitting would be a nightmare, too.
There is a mob in Australia who has the conversation kit for the Buick v6 and LS v8
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Thanks
@@brianandrews7099
Thanks for the help.
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I may have a 1996 NO RUST, Land Rover Discovery for sale. Excellent NO RUST frame and body ( very little rain & No road Salt).
I've owned a 2003 Range Rover HSE since 2015.Yes,many repairs.However,after replacing steering column,rebuilt,runs fine.Oh yes, performed timing chain guides 2018.I still enjoy the Rover.
Love this thanks man
I was recently gifted a 2012 LR2 (a family hand me down). I noticed that this year was not in your range to avoid but are there any concerns you might have that I should keep an eye out for?
You still have it Volvo motor pretty reliable?
Actually learned to repair a TD5 in a 2004 platform and really like that vehicle. Once you learn its quirks and repair a few design issues, like the oil cooler, its a very fast and fun car to drive.
Correction: 2005 Ford bought Land Rover so the later 05 and on LR/RR had the Jag 4.4L V8 or 4.2L Super Charged in them and are reliable.
So 2002-early 2005 were the BMW made models and had reliability issues.
Great share. What you think about Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2021? Planning to buy this year. Thanks
You always need a bumper-to-bumper unlimited mileage warranty (from CarMax haha)
funny because it's true
Who sells unlimited mileage warranties on Land Rovers?
Laughs in DeMuro
@@risingembersgaming7740 there are 5 out of 25 I contacted that do
Freelander 2 2013 running here in Austria without any problems ;-)
Just like mine in the UK
Wizard , do you recommend the sport supercharged vs non supercharged when it comes to reliability? Within the years you recommend
Awesome videos , bro keep it up. What do you think of the 2001 disco 2 , I picked up one for 2k. So far only have the 3 amigos
The 5.0 engine on LR4 is not a "Ford derived engine" it's a Jaguar AJV8. It's the 4.0 V6 that is a Ford engine (Ford Cologne).
Wish it was the Ford Coyote engine on the LR4, man that would've been something with aftermarket potential
Yeah but for what ? The 5.0 AJV8 is a strong and smooth engine. If you want more HP you have the 5.0 SC RRS L320 (same basis as the Discovery) that has 510HP.
_Bowler_ actually use that very engine in their Rally prepped Defender, Bowler Wildcat.
It is often referred to as Ford derived because it was engineered and developed while Ford had controlling interest in LR and Jaguar. Other than some premature wear on the timing chain guides, they really are not a bad engine. Way better than the BMW V8 engines they replaced. Typical Euro car rule applies: if you can turn your own wrenches, go for it. If your paying a shop, skip it.
@@brianandrews7099 timing issues only with AJ26/AJ27 and AJ28. The 3.5/4.2/4.4/5.0 (not all of them for the 5.0) have upgrated one.
I will say I have an '08 LR2 and I love mine. The only issues I've had with mine are nothing more than regular maintenance things like a coil pack here and a MAS there. Other than that I really don't have issues with it
I was looking at buying same year that is immaculate how long have you had it?
@@mattthegreat4389 I had it for about 5 years if I remember right
I have one too. Great car. You’ll spend some money at 150-170k miles but jag engine flawless.
These are the best!!
Bought one in April off this nice old man. £2000, 145,000 miles. - been my daily driver ever since, not given me one bit of pain - it's a faultless beast. Rusty as hell though. Will need to find a welder before my next MOT.