How to Frame a Deck | This Old House
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2020
- Tom Silva and Norm Abram teach the apprentices how to frame a new deck
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Tom Silva and the new apprentices framing for a new deck. They set the posts into the concrete footings and then measure for the beams and joists. Then Norm Abram shows how to attach the deck flooring.
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That guy teaching the girl how to put the decking down at the end of the video comes across as a genuinely nice guy!
That is Norm Abram he has been a class act since This Old House started in 1978/1979
What a treat to see Norm how lucky are those guys learning from Tom and Norm. Made my heart sing
its great these young people get to benefit from norm and tammies knowledge , they all paid attention and the girl did so well asking questions as she went , you cant learn by not asking , great job all round
Outstanding it's Norm!!! Course having Tom and Norm on a show makes a hundred years of experience. Watch and learn!👍🇺🇸
It’s so sad seeing how much Tommy and Norm have aged. Idk what the carpentry world is gonna be like without them. I hope these apprentices take EVERYTHING they’re teaching them to heart.
No one else no better than Norm and Tommy
Sad in the way age marks time always does, but they both look good. Norm Look older, but he's stayed slimmed down for a lot of years and seems like he is aging (like we all are doing) really gracefully.
I've been watching This Old House since I was a kid in the '90s. They have inspired me they may have aged but I don't think they'll ever stop doing what they're doing.
And now here in December 2022, I just watched the PBS tribute to Norm who recently retired after 43 years on TOH, TNYW, and ATOH. What a legend and a national treasure!
4:19 !!! Norm is in the house!
Well outside the house, still NORM!!!
yippeee!
Jamie Norm is in the (old) house
Pretty amazing to say you got to work with Norm and Tom. I am sure she knows how lucky she is.
My stress level drops to zero when I know Norms in town...😀
NORM!!!! big fan.. glad to see you’re still at it.🤓🧱🔨🧰
Yes me too!! NORM THE MAN !!
All of the builder-educator stars of this show are looking good. They're doing a fantastic job.
The apprentice is wearing a Matt Risinger build show hat...... also a good UA-cam construction show!
Didn’t think we’d get a little New Yankee Workshop! Norm’s a legend!
I agree. He was probably one of the largest influences I had as a child/youth, and the reason I pursued a career in woodworking/residential construction. I had some tough bosses early on, and would have done anything to have the opportunity these young adults have learning from such great teachers.
Nice to see "this old house" teaching the next generation of apprentices the right way to build things.
Great to see Norm and he's in fairly good shape for someone who will be 71 next week. (Oct 3rd)
Mad respect that new people are learning from them
Something we can all learn from! Thanks, This Old House!
That's a good looking house. It's going to be beautiful when it's done.
What an amazing opportunity to learn it must be for those apprentices.
Tom and Norm are legends!!!
Glad to see that the pros are working with apprentices to help pass their knowledge to the next generation. Learn, learn, learn......
True, but you need to introduce a complete novice to demonstrate that "anyone" could tackle such tasks when given proper instruction ... disregarding exact measurements perhaps???
@@t1n4444 I'm sure those apprentices started as novice but showing their mistakes on PBS and You Tube would only embarrass them and chase others away. We all started as novice at any job and learned it and gained confidence.
@@larrymoore6640 Possibly, but probably just as happy to be on TV for 15 minutes over an entire series.
Nice to see Norm and Tom working together. I remember back when they were both students of mine in construction school. They've really come a long ways since then. Once in a while I still help them out when they have questions about something they dont know.
LMFAO
its always great to Norm. Norm Abrams the Ultra Master Carpenter
Love seeing Norm!!
I love Norm!
Such simple devices making a job so much easier and cleaner looking.
I am such a huge fan of your show.😎🥰👍. Is that a type of a carpenter trade program of the various other people who work with you. Your very caring and patient older people showing the younger people the art of the trade and you do it in such a Respectfully Professionalisms Way. Compared to what you see in real job sites the disrespect and yelling at the help compared to your show is black and white. Bravo 👏 to you in showing also the Americans People That Your Show is the Right Way To Treating A Human Being. Imagine going to work everyday working for people like the show portrays.
You can tell these guys are highly skilled
Very informative thanks 🙏
Love that the apprentice has a build hat. Shout out to the build show
Tommy must be close by because Norm's using his drill. lol
I noticed that too! Norm used to use Porter Cable! They usually sponsored The New Yankee Workshop!
Nice plug for The BUILD show and Matt Risinger!! @MattRisinger
OOOOOOOOOOOOOONNnnnnnnn…
Ayyyye, Norm.
You go girl!
Nice build! Shorter screws and pre-drill is a good add on to this project. Try not to bruise the plug!
Thank you for the Video. I did notice that you didn't apply any Joist Tape on top of the Joist to preventing it from rot and prolonging the life of the deck.
The great job 👍👌👏
Love watching these videos just seen people do the work that I wish I knew how to do.
Just thinking about this video however man in one years time the cost of building that deck has gone up at least 30%.
That is going to be a nice house. . .
I'm painting a lot of that poly decking 15 years after installation. Just for the sake of honesty. I understand that 15 years is pretty good for the decking planks, but still it might be good to train people to expect a greyed cedar deck look, that's a material that really lasts.
I’ve learned a lot from Tommy since I was a kid. The one technique I’ve never agreed with is pitching the deck for drainage. The gaps in the deck boards allow for drainage. I prefer a perfectly level deck. The only exception would be a 3 season screened deck without gaps in the decking.
Porches are built with pitch? Why would a deck not be? Not all decks are built with pressure treated wood either. And being Tommy is from Massachusetts, where there are 4 changing seasons, winter with lots of snow that does a number on decks.
If there’s no pitch even with the gaps in the decking water will collect on every individual piece of decking and not drain
There are very few people that can do both construction carpentry and woodworking like Norm. Most people do one or the other but not both
1) Apply deck tape sandwiched between the fascia and the backside of the hanger? (will be using SDS screws)
2) Wrap the 4x6 beam in deck tape prior to setting it directly inside the hanger?to setting it directly inside the hanger?
This show is amazing in many aspects. Till next time,..........."Nawrm".
WGBH Boston 1979 fan. On UHF! Who's old, and with me? LOL
WGBH and all of Public TV kiss GOP anus and you know it Boston is also so racist...
Is there a video before this one? Before the ledger install?
It would have been nice to see the finished deck.
U can c the finished deck when u buy the material and install it on ur own place.
@@borys444, Wow, that was one hell of a comeback, not ! Lol.
Yeah I agree.
@@augustreil It was a joke you boomer
@@clxxxvii., I'm a boomer, you're a boomer, wouldn't like to be a boomer too !
Why didn't you use the hammer drill to drive in the wedge anchors?
Set the hammer drill to the hammer mode after drilling the hole. Light pressure on the top of the wedge anchor bolt will drive it in quickly.
A millwright taught me that trick a few years ago. It's very efficient.
Especially if you carry the hammer drill, impact, and the wedge anchors (in a roofing nail pouch) all on 1 good belt.
Hi "Esta casa vieja" 😁 ¿can you tell me how deep is the concrete base please? Thank you so much for your teaching 🙏👍
International building code states you need to be below your frost line here in New England that is usually about 48 inches but also you need to have the bottoms flared wider to prevent the post space from being pushed up by Concrete HHI‘s so if you use a 1 foot elephant foot base with a 12 inch sono tube 4 foot long And with an extended about 6 inches above finish grade you should be within code compliance but always check your local building codes to make sure that you are correct because if you’re not it’s gonna be one big headache to remove the post base to ensure proper code compliance
@@nh39308 thank you 👍
My kid loved you on Freakazoid.
What kind of recessed deck screw bit is that?
Isn't it a risk at 7:47 that rainwater between these specific two floorboards cannot drain and shall cause the supporting beam to rot?
I think I would have taken a piece of the board and used it as a spacer to begin driving the screws in, then, once all the screws are started, the spacer will remain in place and you can just slide the next board in place without having to worry that the spacer will fall out as the board the spacer is inserted too, and the screw, will keep the spacer in it's place.
Every video on deck construction always fears the same thing. Showing how to build a true elevated deck. They're always no more than 3-4 feet off the ground. Everything is assembled by a couple guys, *Standing* on the ground.
Where is the signup sheet for Norm to swing by and help me with my deck? :P
There is no joist tape being used. Is that ok?....I don't use it on my deck. Didn't know about it
Naic
7:45 there is no flashing below and beam has many vertical cracks - it'll collect rain water and rot.
You only need flashing when fastening the ledger board to the house.
@@PrimeSuperboy but it still will rot...
Who botched the placement on that footer
Seems like it may have been intentional, so that it did not stick out to the side.
@@mneedham1 Maybe, but it's against code.
Norm been on tv since well before I’ve been alive
What’s the screw called again? Norm said it’s “special”.
-Hey Tom, you seen that pack of special screws anywhere?
-Wtf is wrong with you kid?
How come those end/side footings weren't centered under where the post was going to end up?
Safety first!!!!!!!!! Norm!!!!!!
Spanks fir watchin, keep your....
Stick on the ice?
I know they say you don’t need to pre-drill, but it’s faster and easier to pre-drill for those screws.
Amen!
Just did a Trex deck sort of like this at my cabin in NC. I was under the impression you have to install tar paper on the joists before installing the decking for rot prevention.
I don't know where that came from, but I don't see the advantage. The pt wood is made for direct ground contact. I would say the idea came from the days cedar or doug fir framing that can rot when saturated. If anything it would cause issues today. Decking materials need to dryout, 15lb paper isn't going to keep the top of that joist dry.
That is usually an added step from the contractor on installation some of us older guys are used to putting in the tarpaper under the decking I prefer to do it all the time so this way here when the client looks down onto the deck they don’t see the green spacing between the deck boards and yes it does ensure a longer life of your pressure treated joists
Placing tape over the joists lengthens the life of the deck. Pressure treated wood can rot too if constantly exposed to moisture. Granted it will take quite a while, but why not go the extra step to extend the life of a beautiful deck?
Rockport MA ballcap ftw
Are you recommending to use joist tape on decks?
Search for a video from Robin Clevett on here to install decking. He's a master carpenter. He shows what to do much better. There's 2 parts to it. ua-cam.com/video/yoOHZZWfU4o/v-deo.html
Wow. I want that drill
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besides adding G tape to the joists , I also prefer the mantiss style clip system......partly because I already have the gun and 18 bazillon clips..... :D
that's such a big number.
Cruz ✝️. Norm he is my hero 🦸♂️
Why would you put the the post bracket on the edge of the round footings? all the weight is on one side, doesn't suppose to be int he middle?, maybe I missed something.
No Festool hammer drill?
I would pre drill the deck holes
1:30. I find it probably too funny when people bend over causing a rise in pitch of a persons voice 😆
Is Norm officially back to this show?
Anybody also watch RR buildings? Kyle would have a fit over those concrete post base locations. No membrane over that beam is bugging me.
Lol their power tools always amaze me. Not sure if theyre the first ever original power tools or something they bought at big lots.
Great vid as always. One complaint... needed like 5 more seconds of this video to show the finished product. We need the capstone to the video!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Q/ why they didn’t use the spacers between the first and second board, but he started between the second and third?
the outside boards are smooth sided and don't have the slot cut for the clips like the boards used inside
99bablefish has to go back to double check, and yes the outside board doesn’t have slot!
Thanks for your reply
Ahmed, some manufacturers have what’s called a blind Fechner were at spaces out the grooved edge voyage from a smooth edge board so it would only clip into the groove the edge of the first field board that they had said in place or what you could do is what Norman did in the video and put in the blind Fasner it’s usually up to the installers discretion and also the manufacturers recommendations as to how that first field board is set
Correction to my previous post it should read Blind fastener and smooth edge board not voyage
Teach me to do decks
Cordless SDS Hammer
limited information on building the deck. How about doing one from start to finish?
Never thought I’d see the day Norm would put plastic on the porch
It comes in different colours... like mocca, cynamon, charocal black,
0:04 - Those Simpson ABA post bases are spec'd to have a minimum of 2 inch clearance from the edge of concrete to prevent blowout, and this one is hanging off the edge...
If the concrete guy is going to be that sloppy in his work, better size up your column footers for more tolerance.
Or epoxy the bolts at least....
Yeah lol this build is embarrassing
I was thinking that those concrete posts they poured looked a little off as far as where they should be with that first corner
Where can I get the deck boards?
you can purchase them at your local grocery store
@@gasbags101 Thanks for the response (Though I think it was meant to be sarcastic) but I wanted to get the actual specific name of the boards, price and which store has them I.e Lowes or Home Depot.
@@Kevin-mp5of Thank you. You pointed me to the right direction. Found them at Home Depot. You were right. The only Home Depot store that has them is a couple of miles away from where I am.
@Crotch Banister Yes they were: "Trex Decking Tiki Torch - Composite Deck Board Sample". I just ordered some samples at the moment. Will see how it will cope under the elements before I go on a full swing purchase mode.
@Crotch Banister 🤣 🤣That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid - "Regret!" - On the reviews I read which were probably fake 5/5 market gimmick reviews, one reviewer who gave the product a 1/5 mentioned the boards didn't even last a year and they started warping. Another mentioned that the color is just a 3 coat layer and is not penetrated to the wood. This got me a little skeptical especially considering the Texas unpredictable weather with summer temps of 102+. I'm looking forward to start my project next summer, if the trex doesn't favor I will just fall back to treated wood. I will keep you posted about the samples though.
I have no idea who Norm is but I’m enjoying all the love he’s getting in the comments
Jon .... Norm was the man behind the very first episode of This Old House, starting with the PBS series in 1979. He'll be 71 next week so has LOTS of experience.
That first post barely caught the footer
How is Roger doing?
I personally would use a impact for decking that drill is to slow
Looks like that apprentice is a fan of Matt Risinger
You dont pitch the deck. It doesnt hold water?
Where is the joist tape?
Good work Kathryn and De'Shaun ! Good luck with the rest of your apprenticeships!
Inch of Gert sitting on it
I found that drilling into the synthetic boards from the top tends to shorten the lifespan of the surface board.
Still better than leaving a nail or screw exposed to oxidation and as a result to quickly rotting the board surface!
Ahmed Riyadh , well yea, thats why fasteners and screws from underneath are preferred. Zuri system does that pretty well
Speaking of legends, how about Larry Haun?
I was sad to hear that covid 19 stopped production of this old house
I can't wait til we get our freedom back
I’m hate when the bracket falls on the outside edge of the footing
Once that pressure tested wood dries out and warps just a bit, those plastic no-show clips are gonna pull the board out of alignment, making it look a bit wonky after afew years
Did you see them mill that up on site?? The wood is already dried, you buy it that way. It's fine.
I thought the boards were synthetic???
And, have "we" noticed that engineered timber and synthetic "timbers" are being incorporated into construction more and more.
I wonder if one day we see an entire house being constructed by a gigantic 3D printer controlled by an AI?
Simply tell the AI (verbally?) what you want including dimensions and let it get on with it ... I'm only half joking by the way ...
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power treated lumber is not kiln-dried.
@@rickmcphee4206 whether kiln dried or air dried, lumber is usually dried of most moisture before used in construction. Surely you know this?