I’ve been watching these guys for years, plus I use to watch norm in his wood working shop all them time I will hate to see these guys retire. They will be missed.
Wow it sure is good to see Norm Abram still swinging that Plumb curve claw hammer after more than 40 yrs! Yes, I’m an old fan of This Old House since 1980.
It might be easy for some to understand that the angled stringer needs to be longer, but I appreciate how they took the time to explain it. It really shows a deep understanding, in being able to explain it so simply. The part with the angled cut on the plywood was a great trick.
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen on ToH! Tells you the math and why and explains it in very easy to learn terms. Great job on this one guys!
Thanks. Great work. I've been doing this for 35yrs. Its always nice to see someone else's take on things. Im starting one of these in a couple of weeks 😅😅
I have watched you guys for a long time and Tom you get better looking with each new year. You all look better. It is like actors that get better as they get older. I am an artist and love to draw people.
It would be a absolute pleasure to be working with tom and norm Kevin’s a lucky man all that Knowledge you couldn’t buy that keep up the good work lads 🇮🇪
What a great simple DIY project! Easy instructions, cheap materials, minimal tools required. This is one of those projects you call the neighbor over, have some beers on ice, a couple of circular saws and some drywall screws and throw together to impress the wife and kids by dinner time. Thanks this old House! 🤣
@@ProfessorOfLogic81 Not at all, I was making a joke, which apparently fell flat. Sure they can show this, it's a great project and they did beautiful work. But keep in mind that they have two of the finest carpenters alive today framing this complex stair case and they gave bare minimum instructions on laying out the complicated jack stringers. This is not a DIY project no matter how you slice it. Sure, anyone can attempt it. Knock yourself out. But being in the trades I can assure you that the average homeowner is going to go through a pallet full of lumber trying to get those jacks right and figure out the increase in tread lengths on the hypotenuse. It was all tongue in cheek humor, and I apologize to you if it wasn't well received.
Imagine Tommy as a combo math, geometry and shop teacher . Kids would have true understanding of the subjects with real world application and schools would be graduating geniuses that would truly Make America Great.
Really cool guys… ! So many ways to do these projects…! Love your experience showing some great ways to keep the miter cuts in place for years to come..! ❤
Nice. I think it's work the extra cost to use Sipo loose tenons on outdoor projects like this. In cooler climates where winter is real, those miter joints can open up enough to let water in, freeze, thaw and damage those beech tenons. Those corners won't be flat anymore.
@@QIKWIA lol. To this day it's still one of my favorite shows. I'm stuck in the 80s hopelessly....cant get out😆...remember The Littles? Obscure 80s cartoon too....we could go on for hours!!
Nice job on the stairs and good to see Norm out in the field working. What is the code requirement for a handrail with this many steps? Why can't old episodes of NYW be run on PBS? You know everyone will watch.
I will be building stairs like this on my deck. Right now I plan on using Trex deck boards for the risers. I would like to use this 3/4" pvc instead but where can I get some?
If I want to build corner stairs for a deck with a height of 26 inches, 26/8=3.25, so rounding up to 4 gives a rise of 26/4=6.5 inches. Do you just choose the tread depth based on your local building code (e.g. 12"), and pour your landing so the bottom of the stringer lands 3 treads x12"=3' away from the deck? I guess this means you have to calculate all this ahead of time, or pour a wide enough landing so there's some wiggle room.
Nah. They are wedged in there because of the 2x4 footer at the bottom. They can't fall through or anything. The screws are literally just to hold them in position.
5:01 Would someone please tell me the name of the drill bit Kevin is using? Tommy wasn't using pocket holes or does that drill bit a pocket hole drill bit? Thanks
Is it more feasible to screw pressure treated lumber when it's been in the rain, or when it's dry?? My way of thinking is it's better when wet, that way when it dries, the wood shrinks down tightly to the screw, or is that a bad idea all the way around??
The finished pic i saw has 1 handrail down the house side. Shouldn't there be one on both sides? And down the middle as well? I'm thinking building inspectors let anything go by if it's Norm and Tommy doing it.....
Can't you use a vinyl solvent that will bond those joints forever just like a PVC solvent? Seems like calking will weather and lose cohesion after time
No water-ingress protection (primers/sealants/repellants/etc.) for the stringers? Any water that goes down through that upper ype is gonna rot the stringers, no?
Can I ask a question, why did you nail the stair treads in? I ask because during staining my deck I noticed all the treads are screwed in along with the deck treads. Did they screw up my construction of so what should I do? Yes I fix everything in my house that I can
it's completely normal to screw down stair treads - the reason (I'm assuming) they nailed here is because they used an adhesive, and the type of nails they are shooting allow for minimal visual impact (i.e. not as noticeable). I would never recommend just nailing without adhesive because nails are more likely to pull up over time.
IPE sawdust can knock you out of commission for few days (from experience) ...NEED TO WEAR A MASK WHEN CUTTING IPE. I used a vacuum on my kapex which really helped.
Okay, so this house in particular, had another segment on their deck railing with steel cables, I would like to know what company provided those cables because I can't find anybody who can do it like that project came out! It looked great! Please message if you have information! Thanks
Not to sure if like the 2/3 screws supporting a stringer. The constant walking on the stringers could cause them to loosen and sag, and considering the span from the house as well, that’s a lot of load for 3 screws. Feel like they should of used a much bigger gauge screw, or used a modified joist hanger/bracket.
the screws aren't taking any load. they are just holding it in place. the stringer is wedged in compression against the rim joist, and the shear force is being taken by bolts into concrete and a 2x4 at the landing.
@@noyb154 I’m manly aiming this at the ‘jack stringers’ they are just screwed into the side of the ‘hip stringer’ that goes down the middle. Compression won’t work there as there is nothing to push against it.
Norm is my idol. He is the reason I became a carpenter. I enjoyed watching all his shows.
Same! Love watching an old master!
Ronald , This is Tom Silva , not Norm ??
@@mrcapitalist2285 I agree, loved new Yankee wrkshp,, but yes norm is in the glasses, he is slimer these days, but norm ahbram 👌👌👌
@@jamescampbellhenderson1689 This video showed Kevin OConner , not Norm ? Love Norm though , not sure there is better craftsman than him ?
Norm is towards the end when they are putting the decking down.
Good to see Norm out there
I've been watching these guys for years. My dad turned me on to them. I miss my dad.
I’ve been watching these guys for years, plus I use to watch norm in his wood working shop all them time I will hate to see these guys retire. They will be missed.
Wow it sure is good to see Norm Abram still swinging that Plumb curve claw hammer after more than 40 yrs! Yes, I’m an old fan of This Old House since 1980.
That stair stringer in the middle warrants its own video for all those angle cuts.
It might be easy for some to understand that the angled stringer needs to be longer, but I appreciate how they took the time to explain it. It really shows a deep understanding, in being able to explain it so simply. The part with the angled cut on the plywood was a great trick.
NORM!!!!! Great to see the master craftsman and master carpenter all in the same video and same project!
I think this was one of my favorite episodes! That staircase is a work of art.
Episode name?
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen on ToH! Tells you the math and why and explains it in very easy to learn terms. Great job on this one guys!
You two (Norm & Tom) have the most amazing skill levels ! I have learned so much from both of you over the years. Thank you
Love me some Norm Abram! I watched The New Yankee Workshop as a kid. Never missed an episode. He looks great and it's great to see him!
Tommy and Kevin have just great on-screen chemistry.
Excellent work by 2 of the best carpenters in the universe.
Kevin is average at best 😋
@@markwarrington2788 Tom Silva/Norm Abrams, Kevin a good helper
@@likearockcm guess i should have told u to look up - cause that went right over your head. Thought the emoji would have helped u
@@markwarrington2788 Oh, attempting a joke I get it now.
That's a really cool staircase and looks like a shit ton of work but the details used are awesome and looks like it'll last for 50 years.
Thanks. Great work. I've been doing this for 35yrs. Its always nice to see someone else's take on things. Im starting one of these in a couple of weeks 😅😅
Tom with the Festool impact driver. Like a total boss.
What a ton of work for a corner staircase.
Better than most
Expensive and impractical...grandios waste of space(imo).
But it's beautiful!
the level of craftsmanship is amazing.
That's Norm!? I'm glad to see him! I haven't seen him since I was a kid in the 90s watching This Old House with my Dad.
I would love to meet tommy and norm and try to gain as much knowledge from them as I can. I learn so much from this show
I have watched you guys for a long time and Tom you get better looking with each new year. You all look better. It is like actors that get better as they get older. I am an artist and love to draw people.
It would be a absolute pleasure to be working with tom and norm Kevin’s a lucky man all that Knowledge you couldn’t buy that keep up the good work lads 🇮🇪
Very skilled guys. Thanks for the lesson😁👍
That staircase is a work of art
What a great simple DIY project! Easy instructions, cheap materials, minimal tools required. This is one of those projects you call the neighbor over, have some beers on ice, a couple of circular saws and some drywall screws and throw together to impress the wife and kids by dinner time. Thanks this old House! 🤣
@@ProfessorOfLogic81 Not at all, I was making a joke, which apparently fell flat. Sure they can show this, it's a great project and they did beautiful work. But keep in mind that they have two of the finest carpenters alive today framing this complex stair case and they gave bare minimum instructions on laying out the complicated jack stringers. This is not a DIY project no matter how you slice it. Sure, anyone can attempt it. Knock yourself out. But being in the trades I can assure you that the average homeowner is going to go through a pallet full of lumber trying to get those jacks right and figure out the increase in tread lengths on the hypotenuse. It was all tongue in cheek humor, and I apologize to you if it wasn't well received.
Tommy can knock these steps out in about 5 hours. With Kevins help though it takes 2 days.
Lol
And with you it will never get done. Get back to work!
Kevin 's probably pretty good by now
Kevin is an essential piece to this show, he is excellent and I’m sure he’s a lot handier than he looks!
In the early days, I would've agreed. But Kevin's got skills now. How could he not? Hanging around with those guys all this time...
Amazing Work. Love seeing Norm in his environment !
Norm! well done, nice tools and that voice brings me back!
That hip stringer is a beast
Imagine Tommy as a combo math, geometry and shop teacher . Kids would have true understanding of the subjects with real world application and schools would be graduating geniuses that would truly Make America Great.
Wow! So much work but is looking amazing! Good job!
Really cool guys… ! So many ways to do these projects…! Love your experience showing some great ways to keep the miter cuts in place for years to come..! ❤
Such a timely video! I’m about to try and build a set of pyramid/waterfall stairs. This is going to help out tremendously
I suggest putting a railing over the corners.
Thank god Kevin was there to grab the off cuts.
It would have been a complete disaster otherwise
Wow, that’s way easier than the way I do it. Carpenter for 27 years and I just learned something new today. Or, at least in a new way.
Lot of work, lot details but at the end what a tremendous job.i like it 1👍
Norm is The Man !!!
ok, I REALLY like the look of that staircase. It doesn't feel complete without handrails on the sides, but it still looks really good.
I even think it's illegal not to have handrails at 65" !
Handrails are used to prevent falling of the side of stairs. There IS NO sides that drop off on that staircase so you don't need them.
Who cares… love these couch losers critiquing others work when they clearly couldn’t do this themselves
Well said
Absolutely beautiful
Great show, big fan. But one question is about the railing for the stairs safety comes first.
I paused at 5:20 & realized there's no way I could build that. impressive
Norm didn’t talk about shop safety before using power tools
Awesome work Tommy
Nice. I think it's work the extra cost to use Sipo loose tenons on outdoor projects like this. In cooler climates where winter is real, those miter joints can open up enough to let water in, freeze, thaw and damage those beech tenons. Those corners won't be flat anymore.
Every time I see a video like this I’m like “that’s easy, I can do that” yet I can’t hammer a nail down 😅
Those stairs are amazing!
Great video guys! More of these please 👍🇺🇲💥
Amazing work. Great job.
And Norm with his biscuits... #NYW.
Beautiful job
😲...W👀W'zers!!!
So Beautiful!
I want one!!!😁
❤ inspector gadget! Wowzers lol
@@davemiller7633
👍🏾corrrrRECT!!!🏆
😂😂☺️😂😂
@@QIKWIA lol. To this day it's still one of my favorite shows. I'm stuck in the 80s hopelessly....cant get out😆...remember The Littles? Obscure 80s cartoon too....we could go on for hours!!
Tell ask about that special screw bit which seems to have a countersink, plus a felt tab as to not scratch the PVC riser.
They are called cortex screws for azek
The guy is a stellar carpenter and probably better at trigonometry than Pythagoras.
Beautiful Job.
Nice job on the stairs and good to see Norm out in the field working. What is the code requirement for a handrail with this many steps? Why can't old episodes of NYW be run on PBS? You know everyone will watch.
you can find the NYW episodes on UA-cam. Just search for "New Yankee Workshop"
@@anonnomus6070 yes, I'm aware. Those are not authorized and produce no revenue to support public television.
Nice work on the ear protection
Whaaat????!!
@@brianglade848 that explains the use of a buick key
so many precise cuts
Hope the homeowners set up a webcam so we can watch the first drunk uncle roll down those steps!
I will be building stairs like this on my deck. Right now I plan on using Trex deck boards for the risers. I would like to use this 3/4" pvc instead but where can I get some?
Holy crap!! Talk about overkill with the footing for the stairs.
I miss this series on UK TV,
Thank you teacher
used enough timber to build a pyramid lol nice job looks great
Alot of work and Its Amazing!
I love Tommy.
Good job guys!
Tommy is the best.
This stair case style allows the parents children to play q-bert.
I read about q-Bert in a history book! 😆😆
Kidding. I’m old enough to have dropped a few coins to play it.
If I want to build corner stairs for a deck with a height of 26 inches, 26/8=3.25, so rounding up to 4 gives a rise of 26/4=6.5 inches. Do you just choose the tread depth based on your local building code (e.g. 12"), and pour your landing so the bottom of the stringer lands 3 treads x12"=3' away from the deck? I guess this means you have to calculate all this ahead of time, or pour a wide enough landing so there's some wiggle room.
There has to be more support on those stringers than they showed, right? Just toe screwed in? Especially the one with the really small top tread
Nah. They are wedged in there because of the 2x4 footer at the bottom. They can't fall through or anything. The screws are literally just to hold them in position.
I saw one of these in Egypt.
amazing work
state licensed professional trained carpenter, was taught divide by 7" 7 to 7 1/2" is the perfect rise,
5:01 Would someone please tell me the name of the drill bit Kevin is using? Tommy wasn't using pocket holes or does that drill bit a pocket hole drill bit? Thanks
That drill bit comes with Azek screws and plugs ..cortex screws
Do you run a hand rail down the middle?
Why?
@@daveklein2826 Ummmm, code?
@6:06 "we're using [epay] on the decking so no maintenance there". epay? Is that what he said?
Darn stairs. Probably the most difficult thing in construction. Piece of cake for Tommy though. The master at it his game.
doesn't the building code require railings for stairs over 3' or 4' high?
That’s what I was thinking too!
Is it more feasible to screw pressure treated lumber when it's been in the rain, or when it's dry?? My way of thinking is it's better when wet, that way when it dries, the wood shrinks down tightly to the screw, or is that a bad idea all the way around??
Are hand rails required by code for this?
Basically, anything more than two step or with a blind edge needs a handrail, but not in the middle.
They weren't showing a completed project only how to build the stairs
The finished pic i saw has 1 handrail down the house side. Shouldn't there be one on both sides? And down the middle as well? I'm thinking building inspectors let anything go by if it's Norm and Tommy doing it.....
No because there is no chance of falling off the sides
@@daveklein2826 its code, it has nothing to do with falling off the sides....its so you dont fall down the stairs..
Can't you use a vinyl solvent that will bond those joints forever just like a PVC solvent? Seems like calking will weather and lose cohesion after time
45 degree triangle 1-1- √2.
Run is 1.414 standard run.
No water-ingress protection (primers/sealants/repellants/etc.) for the stringers?
Any water that goes down through that upper ype is gonna rot the stringers, no?
I thought they would’ve put a barrier between the stringer and the footing.
I feel like they over framed that but in good way! Very clean and will last a very long time no doubt
Are the corner stringer two 2x12 put together
i wished he would have showed how he cut the angles in the jack stringers and also the cut he did on the one he called the angles rafter stringer
pure art
Looks great but what about the handrails?
Only Biden supporters need handrails.
@@scarroll625 idiotic reply! Everything isn’t political.
With only a few screws holding it at the top and a huge concrete base at the bottom, isn't the bottom over kill a bit?
How possible would it be for u to come to,93555 to install some wooden patio supports☺
beautiful!
Can I ask a question, why did you nail the stair treads in? I ask because during staining my deck I noticed all the treads are screwed in along with the deck treads. Did they screw up my construction of so what should I do? Yes I fix everything in my house that I can
it's completely normal to screw down stair treads - the reason (I'm assuming) they nailed here is because they used an adhesive, and the type of nails they are shooting allow for minimal visual impact (i.e. not as noticeable). I would never recommend just nailing without adhesive because nails are more likely to pull up over time.
Norm used a beech loose tenon. Festool makes a sipo loose tenon for outdoor work.
I know Norm installed joist hangers on those stringers before installing the treads and risers.
IPE sawdust can knock you out of commission for few days (from experience) ...NEED TO WEAR A MASK WHEN CUTTING IPE. I used a vacuum on my kapex which really helped.
Okay, so this house in particular, had another segment on their deck railing with steel cables, I would like to know what company provided those cables because I can't find anybody who can do it like that project came out!
It looked great! Please message if you have information! Thanks
You can buy them at Home Depot.
Really cool. 👍
Not to sure if like the 2/3 screws supporting a stringer. The constant walking on the stringers could cause them to loosen and sag, and considering the span from the house as well, that’s a lot of load for 3 screws. Feel like they should of used a much bigger gauge screw, or used a modified joist hanger/bracket.
the screws aren't taking any load. they are just holding it in place. the stringer is wedged in compression against the rim joist, and the shear force is being taken by bolts into concrete and a 2x4 at the landing.
@@noyb154 I’m manly aiming this at the ‘jack stringers’ they are just screwed into the side of the ‘hip stringer’ that goes down the middle. Compression won’t work there as there is nothing to push against it.