Hello everyone Nini here, just to clear a few misconceptions, 1. I meant 11 pounds even at that it was an exaggeration to land at the point that some people were born fat and it stays with them for life 2. When you say fat is a choice who is actually making that choice, the individual or their finances or environment, where a plate of rice cost 2000 naira and 3 pieces of apples cost 2500, please what choice do you think will be made in that instance. To Reiterate most of what I said in this video is an exaggeration, hypothetical and alleged. Let’s remember to always be kind and spread love to one another as you don’t know what might be someone’s 13th reason. Thank you for watching the video and a big thank you to cruise for having me on here.
@@NifesimiDada more can still be don on one's side to lose weight. Being kind and spreading love to people that haven't put in maximum effort is detrimental
You should do an episode of people who have gained weight from being skinny and people who have lost weight from being fat. I think they’d be able to give context to this more
Being skinny in Nigeria, is not a funny at all. As a people or a society, culturally accepted attractive people are based off of how thick or fleshy(being descriptive) they are. There's this stigma that comes to being quite skinny, especially if you are approaching young adulthood, or already a full young adult. And let's face it, it's quite seeming to be worse when you're a woman. You're deemed unattractive(not hot) by the male populace, because you do not have a huge backframe/backside or big breasts. It does even come to situations where you are addressed as "flat" or looking like a "stick" for being on the skinny side, and it's always in a condescending context. As per, "you suppose be man, because how complete babe/woman no go get flesh? How woman no go get body na, you be man oh"... it's always not great to hear that. Just to say, whether skinny or plus-sized, I really hope we all come to learn and appreciate our body and how we naturally are. We can do our best to be the better version of ourselves while not hating or killing our image.
Anastasia here👋👋 I really enjoyed having this conversation. Learned so many things from my fellow panel speakers. I hope this video spreads more awareness on the severe impacts of body shaming (fat or skinny) and people learn to be kind to one another ❤ Felt good to be back on the channel again😊 Thanks for having me @cruise
I started a new job recently and I can’t count how many times my boss made jokes of me being skinny At first i took it as a joke also but it just keeps happening He even asked if i had blood in me just last night 🤦🏾♀️ People really need to do better when it comes to minding things business on other people’s life
As much as they are your employer you need to draw boundaries. Let them know that you find it demeaning when they make such references, and you don't appreciate talks about your body in ways that has nothing to do with your job. You did not create yourself and neither did he/she. Find a good way to say this via text or in-person. I say this bcos I've been in a similar situation, although not my direct employer but it was a senior male colleague and I cleared him straight up the 3rd time it happened. Cos I saw that not addressing it made him think i was okay with it. I changed it for him. Na you dey feed me wey you dey call me fat... mschewww
3:37 "words can only have power over you if u give meaning to it." This is such a powerful quote❤. As a fat girl, this video is beautifully made. Love the conversations
Mr.Mayowa is so real, and I like it. Being fat is definitely a choice, but a hard one. No matter the gene and hormonal imbalance, it all comes down to what you consume, the amount of calories your body needs vs the amount you consume, If you are in a deficit, you will definitely lose weight. So when the entrepreneur lady says, she's done all sort of exercise, and still hasn't gotten result, exercise is just like a tip of the iceberg, no matter how much you exercise, if you are still not in a calories deficit, you won't lose weight. Everybody burn a certain calories already at rest, so even without exercise, but with a deficit, you can still lose weight. And a lot of us consume x2 the amount of food we need, hence the reason why most people are overweight. And I understand that some people have health issues, but with a good lifestyle, you can avoid to be fat. And life is not fair, it will never be, some people have fast metabolism and good health, why others, the opposite, you that have the opposite have to put in x2 the work, that is life.
Even with calorie deficit, People with underlying health issues will still find it very hard/impossible to lose weight. That’s the point you and the pharmacist are missing. More reason why you shouldn’t generalize, Weightloss for people with severe hormonal/health conditions is way more than calorie deficit.
@@suleimanbashirat4323 Yeah it might be more than just a caloric deficit but that doesn't make it impossible, ultimately anyone can lose weight, some just have to put in more effort. Calling that "not a choice" and acting like it's not possible to lose weight is stupid tbh and doesn't help those who struggle with it
Fact: Both skinny and fat people will always be criticized in Nigeria. I'm a skinny person and when I tell people I eat alot, they ask me why I'm still skinny🤦♀️. I'm glad that this is being discussed, we need to start changing this perspective.
It’s ironic how so many people who once shamed others for being fat are now gaining noticeable weight themselves and proudly calling it being “thick.” Okay baddie.. Whatever rocks your boat.
As a girl who grew up fat,bullied and insulted for being fat, developed an eating disorder, lost the weight and now suffers from a lot of mental issues due to all these experiences. Please learn to be kind to people, you can never know what someone is going through and how your words and actions deeply affects them. It’s not difficult to be a good person please be mindful of the words you say to people whether jokingly or not .
26:05 when she said “ your bum bum is to big you need to lose more weight “ 😭 modelling agencies in Nigeria are actually all the same because I went through that same thing
This is the time first time i'm commenting here, i love how peaceful they passed their points, everyone was giving the space to express themselves without others being defensive,very matured minds. We are all Unique in our own ways.
I don’t agree with you completely on that We have many soups that are rich in proteins and vitamins You may argue that those soups will be eaten with swallow’s which are carbs and I agree with you that, but there are other options our swallow can be made from, eg unripe plantain swallow which contains zinc, iron, calcium, magnesium. You can still choose to consume less calories while eating Nigeria meals, do your research and expand your menu beyond rice
@@ogesworld7783aunty, our diet is poor and loaded with carbs. Imagine eating bread and sweetened chocolate tea for breakfast, swallow, which is just starch ( and no, most people don’t use unripe plantain to make swallow) and rice or yam and oil for dinner, for brunch/snacks we drink garri and suger, puff-puff, etc. for a while this way tolerable because most of us were farmers, factory workers, etc, hence we burned the extra calories. Today most people are office workers/ lead sedentary lifestyles. That’s why life expectancy is low in Nigeria, diabetes is extremely high.
@@ogesworld7783true but those same soups have so much oil, we get things a lot in Nigeria, we’ll fry meat, chicken, plantain, stew. We still add oil to a lot of our soups, ayamase, beans, yam porridge, oil has a lot of calories and it adds up. Our portion sizes also don’t help, someone will eat a mountain of rice with one small piece of meat.
For many women who have been insulted for their weight and had their ability to find a spouse questioned because of it, please don’t let pressure push you into a marriage just to prove a point. In the end, you’ll be the one left carrying that burden alone.
The pharmacist guy is so well spoken and so right when it come to the fat being a choice thing. Something as simple as deciding not to take proceeded foods for a reasonable time period will yield physical results but sadly a lot of us can't hold ourselves accountable for lacking discipline and being inconsistent
Ohhhh please they are a lot of people that are consistent and it doesn’t work and that’s why most people then to g for survey there are a lot for you to learn same as the pharmacist guy that looks like someone that got married because his newly wedded wife pumps him with so much love affection and reduced the burden of not having to do much anymore Because to me that’s not far
@@Exclusiveee1 wait, you're dissing the pharmacist? The person there that's obviously the most knowledgeable when it comes to the human body? Omo, you fat people and your coping mechanisms Sha. Your way of thinking is very limiting tbh. I hope you can grow past it
I love hearing Ephah speak, she’s just brilliant! This conversation was really good. I also feel that we should be careful of how we speak and refer to other people. It doesn’t matter if you think something is not offensive, what matters is how the person receiving it feels. Growing up skinny in Nigeria, people call me different names like “HIV, “Bag of Bones”. Someone even once said if they’re looking for pictures of “suffering African children” they can use me. Let’s just learn to be kind especially with our words
I don't 💯 agree that one's weight is a choice. Sometimes it is, but not all the time. I've been slim my whole life and I've tried to add more weight many times even after child birth.
This was a great episode the respect that everyone gave each other was just amazing. Ephah saying "Some people our born in to a home and some people are born into a house." I'm a person who was born into a house and just now letting go of my past. I'm a skinny person, and I hated people thinking they could always pick me up. My friends and than guys at when I use to go to clubs. It made me see how vernable I was. Much love from 🇺🇸 everyone perspective I understood.
@@Niri777 I know but the commend I replied to is talking about your “friend” saying you’re fat, it’s still no big deal. It’s the same as a stranger saying you’re fat
I'm so glad this issue was brought to the table. Nigerians skinny shame alot. The funniest thing is most people i know that were skinny were always pressurised to add weight. Due to low self esteem, most dont embrace their God given body, they add the weight then start looking for how to lose the weight(irony of life). My older sister's friend used to be skinny while growing up, she's now married with kids and she looks very cute(confirm spec). She said most guys that were skinny shaming her now wished their wives could at least work on their weight and be like her. She wasnt their spec when she was skinny, but as time went on, she grew and became a spec and now they wish they had her. In a nutshell, whatever body size you are, embrace it and be confident.
Firstly: I think skinny shaming is more worst than fat. Cause fat shaming comes with intent but skinny shaming, everyone does it without even knowing. Even skinny children are not spared. I remember as a child, my mum always wants me to wear one particular gown cause it big and long sleeves. Why? Cause it covers my body well and so people will stop accusing her of not feeding me well. A fat baby is praised but a skinny one is side-looked or they start advising the mother on what to feed her baby. Fat women have problems with fatness cause of what men says most times, but as a skinny woman , you are a target to both men and women. In nursing school, my classmates fat enough to be mistaken for my mother told me, real men like flesh and not bone like me and I won’t find a real man. But she said it when I already loved myself enough to reply her “ I said “well I’m a woman to be kept and cherished not eaten like a meat as you describe yourself “ the audacity for someone who is just her early 20s yet look older than my mum to come for me like that.
I would rather agree with Noah saying "poverty is not a choice" than agreeing to "Being fat is not a choice" 😂😂😂 Anyway, let's call a marker, a marker and not a pencil. Even amidst medical conditions, being fat is most at times a choice if not always. If you don't want to be accountable for your actions or habits that's left for you. I mean, most of us might have seen/watched documentary of people who weigh more than 6 of them combined but still decided to lose that weight nonetheless. MAYBE rephrasing the prompt might help, how about "Being Obese is a Choice" 🙂
I liked this debate before i watched it because ive been super skinny and super fat... I feel since I gained weight I feel less worried about being carried to where I no know when I walk about at night. But hearing those who did you eat comments to double in size can ruin your day.
“Being plus size is not a choice” what😭😭 accountability left the chat😂. That other lady mentioning her exercise routine and it didn’t work🤣🤣 what about CHANGE OF DIET??? Yoooo it’s craaaaazzzzy
After watching the video I feel like they focused more on fat people and their struggles than slim people. I understood more about the struggles of being plus sized than I did about being skinny. There’s soo much more that skinny people go through mehn😪
It can be in the way that some people can’t control. Not every fat person is fat by choice and some genuinely are born with significantly bigger mass than others. Notice how in some families, almost all members are overweight and in others almost all members are skinny. Simply saying being fat is a choice is like shaming fat people, saying that they chose prejudice just because they couldn’t close their mouth. But no one chooses prejudice just because they wanted an extra donut
@@rafaelandimande9036 A family where everyone is overweight is not genetic, it’s poor eating habits being inherited from parents. If your parents are fat because they don’t know how to eat healthy, their children are most likely to become or be fat since they will feed the food that made them fat to their children which will make them fat too. My mum and her sisters and my little sister are big, I was born big because my mum always drank malt like crazy so I gained weight in the womb and was fat all my childhood and early adulthood. When I became an adult and started making my own money, I stopped depending on my mother’s food. I started making healthier choices, intermittent fasting and increasing my physical activity (10k steps per day) and guess what? I lost 45kg! Went from 105 kg to 60kg and I’m only 162cm or 5’4! There’s no such thing as a “fat” gene, a fat family is a result of bad food enabling amongst relatives which can be a difficult cycle to break, but not impossible. You really need to stop acting like fat isn’t changeable like height or skin color. Height and skin colour cannot be changed and are inherited, body fat can definitely be changed.
I enjoyed the video. Can you guys make a video about people with disabilities mental (down syndrome or autism) and physical. Since it’s not really talked about in Nigeria. It will be great to hear they’re perspectives on how they navigate living in Nigeria.
So the fat from birth was given by the food you ate then? You were fat from birth because it was your gene You lost weight because you literally pushed hard to loose it and the moment you don’t push it as hard as you do trust me you go back to
@@AnastasiaChima my departmental mates did anonymous messages and really degraded me in 100lvl . Still openly comment about how "thin" and "flat" I am till today.
Why is it that you don't find fat people during war time or during starvation? Honestly I experimented eating unhealthy foods sodas, doughnuts and all these fried fast foods for 2months and I increased from 75kg to 87kg. During this time I was eating like 4-5x a day and eating cakes, sugary foods etc. My face ballooned, I gained alot of abdominal fat. The next thing I did was decide to lose that weight. I started an OMAD (One meal a day) diet eating only at 3-4pm. I totally cut out sugar, sodas, bread. There are a lot of things that contain sugar... Mayonnaise, ketchup etc. I ate more meat and veges and less carbs (rice, yam, beans etc) ans started exercising early in the morning at home. In 1month I lost all that weight and I'm now 76kg. So to me it's possible if you want to be consistent in dieting and exercising. It all comes down to what you put in your body and your activity level. Sorry to say but a lot of fat people eat higher than the average person. Yeah they're people with medical conditions that cause them to gain weight but it's still linked to food, the fat doesn't just miraculously come from no where.
hii guys! just want to clarify something. 🤫 The word 'fat' in itself is obviously not a bad word. however, society has so much transformed the meaning of this word. that it doesn't just mean 'fat' but goes beyond. it just so happened that the 'extra meaning' society attatched to the word is demeaning. It therfore gives the perception that 'fat' is rude or demeaning. so, since we know this, it's best not to call people fat. you may see it as okay, but it's most likely that a vast majority of people, are going through a whole lot because of the word 'fat'. let's show love guys😝
Calling someone fat or skinny can be offensive(depending on how it is said),especially when its something you are insecure about. Like sombody saying "you have a big nose" it would be offensive to someone that is insecure about it but its descriptive. And sometimes these things are said in a very hurtful way that would increase ones insecurity. As people we just need to be careful when we speak about sensitive stuff (wether you are just decribing the person or not)
I have friends on the big side and I can say it is not "always" a choice to lose or gain weight. Yes, you can try your best and truly, it works for some people but there are others that try and some even do times 2 of the work and still their efforts prove futile. Hormonal imbalance is more common than people think and I'm glad people are starting to get enlightened that people are not just fat because they "eat too much". Mayowa made a lot of sense, definitely, one should try their best to keep fit and be consistent with it. Although, I feel he was comparing his own situation of inconsistency to that of people that may have other contributing factors like genetics, pcos, and so on. Being fat doesn't always equate to being unhealthy. One can be big and be healthy.
I love Anastasia so much speaking for skinny people . Do they know how much people keep saying how skinny people look , it really affected me had to keep eating just to gain weight
theres no need for extremes , 500 sit ups and such consistency is the key 5000 situps for 1 week wont make a difference but 5000 steps a day for a year will definitely show. CONSITENCY is the key
@bizellananani8583 a person who does 50 push ups per day will get results if you do 500 push ups and sit ups in a day forget that anything will change
This all gets down to having self esteem as one of them said... I'm a "Fat" man and I even enjoy people calling me "Biggie", "Abig","big man" etc... All these are just the way you're seen and it's fine.. I just really see myself as "enough" "handsome","Wonderfully made minus nothing". It still doesn't mean I wouldn't live life well and live long because I mind what I eat and I exercise at any small opportunity... For example, I packed into a new location And as usual the "Abig", big man" etc was on everyone's lips.. Omo, anytime anyone calls me that I'll be like "Eheee, Esmalll, how are you, ehee Broom stick, how's your family , etc😅 all of a sudden, within two weeks, nobody ever wanted to call me those names again, they all know my real name and address me as that 😂😂 No gree for anybody oo else your mental health would be tampered on😂😂 especially in this part of the world Wonderful show, I enjoyed every second Kudos Cruise... You guys are doing wonderfully well 💯👏👏
Nini , you are soooo beautiful and you have a great head on your shoulders... Honestly I was just screaming ' Preach gurllll!!!!!' while you spoke. We could be friends jare ❤
“Because it is not demeaning to you doesn’t mean the intent was not demeaning” FACCCCCCTTTTTTT! 💯 The skinny girl talking on kwashiorkor has been through a lot 😂😂😂😂. “There’s no place he’s going to grab…. 🤣” Fat=chubby=yummy. Time stamp: 35:10(….Jesus!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) Yeah for a job interview the bashing on the fat people is too much based on their appearance. They think you’re automatically a lazy person. Nini I think you’re a sweet person from the way you sound,…don’t let people define you. It’s easy for that voice to stop (DGAF about it in the first place) and accept yourself regardless. Lovely video CRUISE ❤❤❤
Being fat isn’t a choice. It’s not always the simple “ calorie in calories out” I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 20 and I just gained so much weight from no where. There was no diet I didn’t try. I was eating healthy for a whole year and working out every single day. Even 1kg I didn’t lose. The main thing that helped me lose weight was ozempic and other supplements . Im 22 now and thank God I’ve been able to maintain it so far naturally.
It is a choice, many people are simply making the wrong choice. Calories are important but not all calories are the same, most African foods are heavy on carbs than anything else, that's the biggest problem. Sugar is the biggest enemy.
For someone with PCOS, weight loss can be more difficult but is definitely achievable with the right approach. PCOS often leads to insulin resistance, making the body more likely to store fat and a low-glycemic diet in addition to weight lifting was the only thing that helped me personally.
The word “fat” itself is not demeaning. There are other context it could be demeaning or even insulting. The question is not talking about context. Any word could be twisted to be an insult, depending on context, but the word “fat” itself in my own opinion is not demeaning until we add the tone, the circumstances and other things.
If you go boarding school you'll know that being fat is a choice, when you first get in no matter how fat you are you go slim, but when you get used to the system you may now add more, i believe that being fat may be in your genes but that doesn't mean you can't work to be slim. Don't you watch transformations? Loosing weight is very hard especially when its up to you. If to say you go government boarding school like me now, you go fit relate.
This proves nothing, did you notice that some people remained on the heavier side regardless? Genetics plays a huge role and many other factors. So instead of judging who is fat or skinny, focus on being healthy because that is the only thing that matters.
@chisavory1373 it actjally proves everything at boarding schools people are more active and eat balanced diets bei g fat is a choice for most people and most people can lose weight
The people that keep playing victim saying they have no choice have already lost no wonder they keep gaining. Unless u do something about it u'll get stuck at where u r forever. It's being lazy imo. They should check their sugar intake, sugar is the #1 metabolism killer. People believe its genetics coz the way they eat runs in the family, I challenge one person claiming to be healthy but fat to come and tell me their food i'll immediately tell them what the problem is
Exactly! They were given reasons like PCOS and insulin overload. But those diseases are a result of bad diet! PCOS or high insulin are not genetically inherited diseases. PCOS is hormonal imbalance which is caused by the excess intake of sugar! Same for high insulin! So it is a choice. Obese people are at high risk of many diseases like PCOS or diabetes. That woman with PCOS ate an unbalanced diet filled with sugar, gained weight and then developed PCOS. Her being born big is not genetics, it means her mother had a poor diet. This is return means the lady inherited her mother’s bad food choices since her mother is the one who fed her growing up. So imagine that lady eating excess amount of sugar since birth, by her teen years she would’ve already been diagnosed with PCOS! On my maternal family side my grandfather died of diabetes, some uncles and aunties have diabetes and even my mother. Does that mean it’s genetic? No! My grandfather was a malt addict while my mother and her sisters are Coca Cola addicts (I kid you not she drinks more Coca Cola than water o!😂😂) and on top of that my mother and her brothers like chocolate and biscuits too much. She hides stash of Coca Cola and chocolate. My maternal side of the family has a bad diet that’s why everyone is suffering from the same disease.
Cruise kinda took more time handpicking this people... everybody passing their point without necessarily tryin to make anybody less of their selves. And yhhh Ephah is such a fineeeee woman🥺🥺🥺
Being slim gets body shamed more I remember praying to God as a child to make me fat ,I never knew what being fat or slim meant but I learnt from being body shamed I'd always ask "how do you know when someone is fat or slim"?
Either it's a coincidence, Or @cruise and @Jubille are both planning similar vidro upload. Cause i literally watched a similar video from jubilee about 2 days ago. Buy of course the preference is with my Nigerian side. ❤❤❤
It's definitely just a coincidence 😂😂. We were just finalizing the edit of this episode on Wednesday when we also saw Jubilee's video. We enjoyed the American perspective tho. It's also great to have the Nigerian/African perspective. ❤️
Hello everyone Nini here, just to clear a few misconceptions,
1. I meant 11 pounds even at that it was an exaggeration to land at the point that some people were born fat and it stays with them for life
2. When you say fat is a choice who is actually making that choice, the individual or their finances or environment, where a plate of rice cost 2000 naira and 3 pieces of apples cost 2500, please what choice do you think will be made in that instance.
To Reiterate most of what I said in this video is an exaggeration, hypothetical and alleged.
Let’s remember to always be kind and spread love to one another as you don’t know what might be someone’s 13th reason.
Thank you for watching the video and a big thank you to cruise for having me on here.
As a fat girl too, I loved ur points here nini ❤
My girrrrlllll❤
@@AnastasiaChima my queen ❤️❤️❤️❤️💋
@@NifesimiDada more can still be don on one's side to lose weight. Being kind and spreading love to people that haven't put in maximum effort is detrimental
@@NifesimiDada Your intelligence is plus size 👍
Every single person spoke intelligently. For a moment i forgot how they looked. A round table of extremely smart minds.
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I was here to say so. Intelligent debate. It wasn't chaotic
You should do an episode of people who have gained weight from being skinny and people who have lost weight from being fat. I think they’d be able to give context to this more
I won't lie, both sides were making really Valid points. I just kept switching stances as I listened
I think this is the most civil and intelligent conversation this channel has had.
I agree with you
probably because its not centered around religion
Being skinny in Nigeria, is not a funny at all.
As a people or a society, culturally accepted attractive people are based off of how thick or fleshy(being descriptive) they are. There's this stigma that comes to being quite skinny, especially if you are approaching young adulthood, or already a full young adult. And let's face it, it's quite seeming to be worse when you're a woman. You're deemed unattractive(not hot) by the male populace, because you do not have a huge backframe/backside or big breasts. It does even come to situations where you are addressed as "flat" or looking like a "stick" for being on the skinny side, and it's always in a condescending context. As per, "you suppose be man, because how complete babe/woman no go get flesh? How woman no go get body na, you be man oh"... it's always not great to hear that.
Just to say, whether skinny or plus-sized, I really hope we all come to learn and appreciate our body and how we naturally are. We can do our best to be the better version of ourselves while not hating or killing our image.
So true. But people’s opinion of me is not my business. You can’t please everyone.
Very true
We sometimes underestimate the amount of food we eat everyday, track your food for a week and you'll be surprised at how much you eat.
My mum always say this thing a lot and I thought she was joking.
Some people would still eat a lot and not add weight
Literally, I lost weight while still eating eba and chocolate because I controlled the portions. 10kg down, 8 to go
@@jesuferanmithey are probably more active.
@@li.ldn21 that's great,i hope you reach your goal weight soon.
Anastasia here👋👋
I really enjoyed having this conversation. Learned so many things from my fellow panel speakers.
I hope this video spreads more awareness on the severe impacts of body shaming (fat or skinny) and people learn to be kind to one another ❤
Felt good to be back on the channel again😊
Thanks for having me @cruise
You were on that android or iPhone video right?
You look familiar
@@Gennyminaj yeah I was ☺️
Girl, Don't care... You're beautiful. No trippin....👍🏽
@@the_popmusicmongul6625 thank you ❤️
I started a new job recently and I can’t count how many times my boss made jokes of me being skinny
At first i took it as a joke also but it just keeps happening
He even asked if i had blood in me just last night 🤦🏾♀️
People really need to do better when it comes to minding things business on other people’s life
As much as they are your employer you need to draw boundaries. Let them know that you find it demeaning when they make such references, and you don't appreciate talks about your body in ways that has nothing to do with your job. You did not create yourself and neither did he/she. Find a good way to say this via text or in-person. I say this bcos I've been in a similar situation, although not my direct employer but it was a senior male colleague and I cleared him straight up the 3rd time it happened. Cos I saw that not addressing it made him think i was okay with it. I changed it for him. Na you dey feed me wey you dey call me fat... mschewww
It’s your choice to allow it.
Tell him to stop it .. .. a lot of people are not sensitive to the feelings of others
Mature people having a mature conversation,it’s a breath of fresh air❤️❤️
3:37 "words can only have power over you if u give meaning to it." This is such a powerful quote❤. As a fat girl, this video is beautifully made. Love the conversations
Mr.Mayowa is so real, and I like it. Being fat is definitely a choice, but a hard one. No matter the gene and hormonal imbalance, it all comes down to what you consume, the amount of calories your body needs vs the amount you consume, If you are in a deficit, you will definitely lose weight. So when the entrepreneur lady says, she's done all sort of exercise, and still hasn't gotten result, exercise is just like a tip of the iceberg, no matter how much you exercise, if you are still not in a calories deficit, you won't lose weight. Everybody burn a certain calories already at rest, so even without exercise, but with a deficit, you can still lose weight. And a lot of us consume x2 the amount of food we need, hence the reason why most people are overweight. And I understand that some people have health issues, but with a good lifestyle, you can avoid to be fat. And life is not fair, it will never be, some people have fast metabolism and good health, why others, the opposite, you that have the opposite have to put in x2 the work, that is life.
Yen yen yen
@@jesuferanmi thank you oh
@@jesuferanmi he's not wrong the pharmacist was the one making the most sense out of everyone
Even with calorie deficit, People with underlying health issues will still find it very hard/impossible to lose weight. That’s the point you and the pharmacist are missing. More reason why you shouldn’t generalize, Weightloss for people with severe hormonal/health conditions is way more than calorie deficit.
@@suleimanbashirat4323 Yeah it might be more than just a caloric deficit but that doesn't make it impossible, ultimately anyone can lose weight, some just have to put in more effort. Calling that "not a choice" and acting like it's not possible to lose weight is stupid tbh and doesn't help those who struggle with it
Fact: Both skinny and fat people will always be criticized in Nigeria. I'm a skinny person and when I tell people I eat alot, they ask me why I'm still skinny🤦♀️. I'm glad that this is being discussed, we need to start changing this perspective.
I never expected this to be a topic of discussion but I'm loving it😂
Ephah's confidence is magnetic! ✨✨✨
I'm skinny and I'm trying to add weight, it's a very hard thing to do.
I believe it's the same or harder the other way round
It’s ironic how so many people who once shamed others for being fat are now gaining noticeable weight themselves and proudly calling it being “thick.” Okay baddie.. Whatever rocks your boat.
Fr💯
As a girl who grew up fat,bullied and insulted for being fat, developed an eating disorder, lost the weight and now suffers from a lot of mental issues due to all these experiences. Please learn to be kind to people, you can never know what someone is going through and how your words and actions deeply affects them. It’s not difficult to be a good person please be mindful of the words you say to people whether jokingly or not .
I'm so sorry that you had to go through all of that. You deserve some more love ❤
You're right...
One thing I can never do in my life is to miss any Cruise episode!!!
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This is the best round table discussion ive ever watched, everyone was intelligent and respectful, i hope to see more😌
26:05 when she said “ your bum bum is to big you need to lose more weight “ 😭 modelling agencies in Nigeria are actually all the same because I went through that same thing
My dear!!!
This is the time first time i'm commenting here, i love how peaceful they passed their points, everyone was giving the space to express themselves without others being defensive,very matured minds. We are all Unique in our own ways.
Please bring more smart people like this for the next conversation. Really loved this conversation
Our Nigerian diets sef no dey help matter,so much carbs 🤣🤣
I don’t agree with you completely on that
We have many soups that are rich in proteins and vitamins
You may argue that those soups will be eaten with swallow’s which are carbs and I agree with you that, but there are other options our swallow can be made from, eg unripe plantain swallow which contains zinc, iron, calcium, magnesium.
You can still choose to consume less calories while eating Nigeria meals, do your research and expand your menu beyond rice
@@ogesworld7783 Thank you for this,it was very well written.
@@ogesworld7783aunty, our diet is poor and loaded with carbs. Imagine eating bread and sweetened chocolate tea for breakfast, swallow, which is just starch ( and no, most people don’t use unripe plantain to make swallow) and rice or yam and oil for dinner, for brunch/snacks we drink garri and suger, puff-puff, etc. for a while this way tolerable because most of us were farmers, factory workers, etc, hence we burned the extra calories. Today most people are office workers/ lead sedentary lifestyles. That’s why life expectancy is low in Nigeria, diabetes is extremely high.
@@ogesworld7783true but those same soups have so much oil, we get things a lot in Nigeria, we’ll fry meat, chicken, plantain, stew. We still add oil to a lot of our soups, ayamase, beans, yam porridge, oil has a lot of calories and it adds up. Our portion sizes also don’t help, someone will eat a mountain of rice with one small piece of meat.
fry things a lot*
This episode taught me to be kind always
For many women who have been insulted for their weight and had their ability to find a spouse questioned because of it, please don’t let pressure push you into a marriage just to prove a point. In the end, you’ll be the one left carrying that burden alone.
@cruisetv please try to tag the speakers in your video. Please it will go a long way and also help people follow them. 😊
Tell them o
@@AnastasiaChima aswear, make we dey follow slim fine girls like you 🌚
@@Dropshipexpertng not everyone wants to be followed sha 😒
It was really nice to watch. No one was shouting or getting emotional. Everyone shared their thoughts clearly and calmly.
The pharmacist guy is so well spoken and so right when it come to the fat being a choice thing. Something as simple as deciding not to take proceeded foods for a reasonable time period will yield physical results but sadly a lot of us can't hold ourselves accountable for lacking discipline and being inconsistent
Ohhhh please they are a lot of people that are consistent and it doesn’t work and that’s why most people then to g for survey there are a lot for you to learn same as the pharmacist guy that looks like someone that got married because his newly wedded wife pumps him with so much love affection and reduced the burden of not having to do much anymore
Because to me that’s not far
@@Exclusiveee1 let me ask you a question. What are the things that make people fat?
@@Exclusiveee1 wait, you're dissing the pharmacist? The person there that's obviously the most knowledgeable when it comes to the human body?
Omo, you fat people and your coping mechanisms Sha.
Your way of thinking is very limiting tbh. I hope you can grow past it
@@Exclusiveee1what are you saying ma??
Do you understand yourself??
Enlightening af. Shouts out to everyone, especially Nini - MVP
I love hearing Ephah speak, she’s just brilliant! This conversation was really good. I also feel that we should be careful of how we speak and refer to other people. It doesn’t matter if you think something is not offensive, what matters is how the person receiving it feels. Growing up skinny in Nigeria, people call me different names like “HIV, “Bag of Bones”. Someone even once said if they’re looking for pictures of “suffering African children” they can use me. Let’s just learn to be kind especially with our words
I love the way Mayowa speaks. He’s very smart
I don't 💯 agree that one's weight is a choice. Sometimes it is, but not all the time. I've been slim my whole life and I've tried to add more weight many times even after child birth.
whenever we give prompts we are meant to stay on the average scale outliers don't really count that's why they are called outliers
😀 really proud of the cruise team, work ethic, the effort, quality of content and production is impressive.
This was a great episode the respect that everyone gave each other was just amazing. Ephah saying "Some people our born in to a home and some people are born into a house." I'm a person who was born into a house and just now letting go of my past.
I'm a skinny person, and I hated people thinking they could always pick me up. My friends and than guys at when I use to go to clubs.
It made me see how vernable I was. Much love from 🇺🇸 everyone perspective I understood.
Nini was the heart of this episode.
In the end, we play the cards we are dealt.
Cruise, do a middle ground on Colourism in Nigeria
Omg yess
I love all their perspectives but Nini and Mayowa have my heart 🥲🥲🥲
Love the diverse angle of conversation
Great content on topical issues
Calling a friend fat is as demeaning as calling a stranger fat
So is the word “fat” wrong? Or not?
NO
What if I say my large or big friend for my fat friends?
@@iamvictorjackthe word isn’t bad. But most times people mean it in a demeaning manner
@@Niri777 I know but the commend I replied to is talking about your “friend” saying you’re fat, it’s still no big deal. It’s the same as a stranger saying you’re fat
It's probably even more demeaning
I really love this conversation ❤❤❤, Cruise bring another episode on short and tall 😂
I'm so glad this issue was brought to the table. Nigerians skinny shame alot. The funniest thing is most people i know that were skinny were always pressurised to add weight.
Due to low self esteem, most dont embrace their God given body, they add the weight then start looking for how to lose the weight(irony of life).
My older sister's friend used to be skinny while growing up, she's now married with kids and she looks very cute(confirm spec).
She said most guys that were skinny shaming her now wished their wives could at least work on their weight and be like her.
She wasnt their spec when she was skinny, but as time went on, she grew and became a spec and now they wish they had her.
In a nutshell, whatever body size you are, embrace it and be confident.
Ephah thank you and to the other guests also
These type of videos(face2face) are my fav❤,used to be distant from the channel because they had ceased coming but I'm back !!
Much love from SA❤
I enjoyed watching this and appreciate how everyone dropped their opinions respectfully ❤.
God I've been waiting for another episode ❤❤
Firstly: I think skinny shaming is more worst than fat. Cause fat shaming comes with intent but skinny shaming, everyone does it without even knowing. Even skinny children are not spared. I remember as a child, my mum always wants me to wear one particular gown cause it big and long sleeves. Why? Cause it covers my body well and so people will stop accusing her of not feeding me well.
A fat baby is praised but a skinny one is side-looked or they start advising the mother on what to feed her baby.
Fat women have problems with fatness cause of what men says most times, but as a skinny woman , you are a target to both men and women.
In nursing school, my classmates fat enough to be mistaken for my mother told me, real men like flesh and not bone like me and I won’t find a real man. But she said it when I already loved myself enough to reply her “ I said “well I’m a woman to be kept and cherished not eaten like a meat as you describe yourself “ the audacity for someone who is just her early 20s yet look older than my mum to come for me like that.
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Very good for her. Stupid girl that she was.
I would rather agree with Noah saying "poverty is not a choice" than agreeing to "Being fat is not a choice" 😂😂😂
Anyway, let's call a marker, a marker and not a pencil.
Even amidst medical conditions, being fat is most at times a choice if not always.
If you don't want to be accountable for your actions or habits that's left for you.
I mean, most of us might have seen/watched documentary of people who weigh more than 6 of them combined but still decided to lose that weight nonetheless.
MAYBE rephrasing the prompt might help, how about "Being Obese is a Choice" 🙂
Skinny shaming is a real thing and its as severe as fat shaming. And like some of the participants said it affect skinny people physiologically.
The society wants you to be in between
if you’re skinny it a problem, if you’re fat is also a problem
I liked this debate before i watched it because ive been super skinny and super fat... I feel since I gained weight I feel less worried about being carried to where I no know when I walk about at night. But hearing those who did you eat comments to double in size can ruin your day.
“Being plus size is not a choice” what😭😭 accountability left the chat😂.
That other lady mentioning her exercise routine and it didn’t work🤣🤣 what about CHANGE OF DIET??? Yoooo it’s craaaaazzzzy
The people agreeing just dey funny me 😂
Ask her how long she even did the exercises for the thing no go reach 6 months 😂
I like Nini already, she is a very nice person to be around.
After watching the video I feel like they focused more on fat people and their struggles than slim people. I understood more about the struggles of being plus sized than I did about being skinny. There’s soo much more that skinny people go through mehn😪
Same
Being fat is a choice . The calories dont just sneak up on you when youre sleeping lol !
It can be in the way that some people can’t control. Not every fat person is fat by choice and some genuinely are born with significantly bigger mass than others. Notice how in some families, almost all members are overweight and in others almost all members are skinny. Simply saying being fat is a choice is like shaming fat people, saying that they chose prejudice just because they couldn’t close their mouth. But no one chooses prejudice just because they wanted an extra donut
@@rafaelandimande9036 A family where everyone is overweight is not genetic, it’s poor eating habits being inherited from parents. If your parents are fat because they don’t know how to eat healthy, their children are most likely to become or be fat since they will feed the food that made them fat to their children which will make them fat too. My mum and her sisters and my little sister are big, I was born big because my mum always drank malt like crazy so I gained weight in the womb and was fat all my childhood and early adulthood. When I became an adult and started making my own money, I stopped depending on my mother’s food. I started making healthier choices, intermittent fasting and increasing my physical activity (10k steps per day) and guess what? I lost 45kg! Went from 105 kg to 60kg and I’m only 162cm or 5’4!
There’s no such thing as a “fat” gene, a fat family is a result of bad food enabling amongst relatives which can be a difficult cycle to break, but not impossible. You really need to stop acting like fat isn’t changeable like height or skin color. Height and skin colour cannot be changed and are inherited, body fat can definitely be changed.
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You're not nice
I totally disagree with you
@@luciachidimma4360
As soon as I check your dp, I have to agree with you 😂😂😂
I enjoyed the video. Can you guys make a video about people with disabilities mental (down syndrome or autism) and physical. Since it’s not really talked about in Nigeria. It will be great to hear they’re perspectives on how they navigate living in Nigeria.
Exactly nothing like Fat gene
I lost 55kg in 8 months and l was fat from birth.
I can you lose weight too, I’m a Certified Dietitian.
So the fat from birth was given by the food you ate then?
You were fat from birth because it was your gene
You lost weight because you literally pushed hard to loose it and the moment you don’t push it as hard as you do trust me you go back to
Skinny shaming is sooo heavy here in Nigeria and I don't even understand
It should be spoken about more often
@@AnastasiaChima my departmental mates did anonymous messages and really degraded me in 100lvl .
Still openly comment about how "thin" and "flat" I am till today.
@@the_real_ada and if you reply to them now … they’ll say it’s a joke. Meanwhile it’s actually not.
So sorry you had to go through that ❤️
Why is it that you don't find fat people during war time or during starvation?
Honestly I experimented eating unhealthy foods sodas, doughnuts and all these fried fast foods for 2months and I increased from 75kg to 87kg.
During this time I was eating like 4-5x a day and eating cakes, sugary foods etc.
My face ballooned, I gained alot of abdominal fat.
The next thing I did was decide to lose that weight. I started an OMAD (One meal a day) diet eating only at 3-4pm. I totally cut out sugar, sodas, bread. There are a lot of things that contain sugar... Mayonnaise, ketchup etc.
I ate more meat and veges and less carbs (rice, yam, beans etc) ans started exercising early in the morning at home.
In 1month I lost all that weight and I'm now 76kg.
So to me it's possible if you want to be consistent in dieting and exercising.
It all comes down to what you put in your body and your activity level.
Sorry to say but a lot of fat people eat higher than the average person. Yeah they're people with medical conditions that cause them to gain weight but it's still linked to food, the fat doesn't just miraculously come from no where.
hii guys! just want to clarify something. 🤫
The word 'fat' in itself is obviously not a bad word. however, society has so much transformed the meaning of this word. that it doesn't just mean 'fat' but goes beyond. it just so happened that the 'extra meaning' society attatched to the word is demeaning. It therfore gives the perception that 'fat' is rude or demeaning. so, since we know this, it's best not to call people fat. you may see it as okay, but it's most likely that a vast majority of people, are going through a whole lot because of the word 'fat'.
let's show love guys😝
Calling someone fat or skinny can be offensive(depending on how it is said),especially when its something you are insecure about. Like sombody saying "you have a big nose" it would be offensive to someone that is insecure about it but its descriptive. And sometimes these things are said in a very hurtful way that would increase ones insecurity. As people we just need to be careful when we speak about sensitive stuff (wether you are just decribing the person or not)
I have friends on the big side and I can say it is not "always" a choice to lose or gain weight. Yes, you can try your best and truly, it works for some people but there are others that try and some even do times 2 of the work and still their efforts prove futile. Hormonal imbalance is more common than people think and I'm glad people are starting to get enlightened that people are not just fat because they "eat too much". Mayowa made a lot of sense, definitely, one should try their best to keep fit and be consistent with it. Although, I feel he was comparing his own situation of inconsistency to that of people that may have other contributing factors like genetics, pcos, and so on. Being fat doesn't always equate to being unhealthy. One can be big and be healthy.
Nini get seeeense👏🏾👏🏾😍What a great conversation!
21:17
The way bro said "I'm on the skinny side today 😂".
No mind me jare 😅
I have hopes and I truly want to add more flesh. Except that it is very difficult to do healthily
I love Anatasia input❤
🫶🏼Nini a very smart babe , and she is spitting facts 👏👏👏
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Lol
12:21 the eye lift here😂
😂I peeped it too
The man just be like person wey add weight after marriage, he nor fat reach to rep fat ppl
23:24 darling skinny shamming dey everywhere oo,unfortunately 😢
It is everywhere. And people need to speak on it more cos apparently the masses are not aware !
I love Anastasia so much speaking for skinny people . Do they know how much people keep saying how skinny people look , it really affected me had to keep eating just to gain weight
theres no need for extremes , 500 sit ups and such consistency is the key 5000 situps for 1 week wont make a difference but 5000 steps a day for a year will definitely show. CONSITENCY is the key
Can't wait to relate to this. Let's get right into the videooooooooo😌😌❤️
500 situps and Push ups??
per year abi wetin?
Omooo 😂
Tried it for a day, took breaks but I tried it for a day
C’mon now 😂😂
@bizellananani8583 a person who does 50 push ups per day will get results if you do 500 push ups and sit ups in a day forget that anything will change
Am appreciate of myself and all plus size and slim person's.
You all are beautiful in your way. Just live life and love life.
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“people think a fat person is automatically a good chef”🧑🍳 .., both surely get the- shaming. However in my opinion the plus size get its more
hopefully the world choose to be nicer and respectful to people more
This all gets down to having self esteem as one of them said...
I'm a "Fat" man and I even enjoy people calling me "Biggie", "Abig","big man" etc... All these are just the way you're seen and it's fine.. I just really see myself as "enough" "handsome","Wonderfully made minus nothing". It still doesn't mean I wouldn't live life well and live long because I mind what I eat and I exercise at any small opportunity... For example, I packed into a new location And as usual the "Abig", big man" etc was on everyone's lips.. Omo, anytime anyone calls me that I'll be like "Eheee, Esmalll, how are you, ehee Broom stick, how's your family , etc😅 all of a sudden, within two weeks, nobody ever wanted to call me those names again, they all know my real name and address me as that 😂😂
No gree for anybody oo else your mental health would be tampered on😂😂 especially in this part of the world
Wonderful show, I enjoyed every second
Kudos Cruise... You guys are doing wonderfully well 💯👏👏
Nini , you are soooo beautiful and you have a great head on your shoulders...
Honestly I was just screaming ' Preach gurllll!!!!!' while you spoke.
We could be friends jare ❤
Been waiting for a video from you guys 😊
And y'all didn't disappoint
"Scrumdiliyumyum" is my favorite moment in this episode 😆
“Because it is not demeaning to you doesn’t mean the intent was not demeaning” FACCCCCCTTTTTTT! 💯
The skinny girl talking on kwashiorkor has been through a lot 😂😂😂😂. “There’s no place he’s going to grab…. 🤣” Fat=chubby=yummy.
Time stamp: 35:10(….Jesus!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)
Yeah for a job interview the bashing on the fat people is too much based on their appearance. They think you’re automatically a lazy person.
Nini I think you’re a sweet person from the way you sound,…don’t let people define you. It’s easy for that voice to stop (DGAF about it in the first place) and accept yourself regardless.
Lovely video CRUISE ❤❤❤
Being fat isn’t a choice. It’s not always the simple “ calorie in calories out” I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 20 and I just gained so much weight from no where. There was no diet I didn’t try. I was eating healthy for a whole year and working out every single day. Even 1kg I didn’t lose. The main thing that helped me lose weight was ozempic and other supplements . Im 22 now and thank God I’ve been able to maintain it so far naturally.
It is a choice, many people are simply making the wrong choice. Calories are important but not all calories are the same, most African foods are heavy on carbs than anything else, that's the biggest problem. Sugar is the biggest enemy.
For someone with PCOS, weight loss can be more difficult but is definitely achievable with the right approach. PCOS often leads to insulin resistance, making the body more likely to store fat and a low-glycemic diet in addition to weight lifting was the only thing that helped me personally.
Whats percent of people who have that disease
@@badge5575 I personally don’t know. A lot of women have it and don’t even know they have it because they haven’t done the proper check up
The word “fat” itself is not demeaning. There are other context it could be demeaning or even insulting. The question is not talking about context. Any word could be twisted to be an insult, depending on context, but the word “fat” itself in my own opinion is not demeaning until we add the tone, the circumstances and other things.
I love this channel swears
29:07 extremely good point, that’s why skinny shaming is not taken as serious as fat shaming. It’s definitely more socially accepted.
But both sides are Righttt😫😫😫😫❤
If you go boarding school you'll know that being fat is a choice, when you first get in no matter how fat you are you go slim, but when you get used to the system you may now add more, i believe that being fat may be in your genes but that doesn't mean you can't work to be slim.
Don't you watch transformations? Loosing weight is very hard especially when its up to you.
If to say you go government boarding school like me now, you go fit relate.
This proves nothing, did you notice that some people remained on the heavier side regardless? Genetics plays a huge role and many other factors.
So instead of judging who is fat or skinny, focus on being healthy because that is the only thing that matters.
@@Bryanamedu Please, there are people who remained far all through.
And they were also suffering with us
People loose a lot of weight when they go to boarding school.... I agree to this to a degree
@chisavory1373 it actjally proves everything at boarding schools people are more active and eat balanced diets bei g fat is a choice for most people and most people can lose weight
@@chisavory1373 they remained on the heavier side, but lost a portion of their initial weight baa?
The people that keep playing victim saying they have no choice have already lost no wonder they keep gaining.
Unless u do something about it u'll get stuck at where u r forever. It's being lazy imo. They should check their sugar intake, sugar is the #1 metabolism killer.
People believe its genetics coz the way they eat runs in the family, I challenge one person claiming to be healthy but fat to come and tell me their food i'll immediately tell them what the problem is
Exactly! They were given reasons like PCOS and insulin overload. But those diseases are a result of bad diet! PCOS or high insulin are not genetically inherited diseases. PCOS is hormonal imbalance which is caused by the excess intake of sugar! Same for high insulin! So it is a choice. Obese people are at high risk of many diseases like PCOS or diabetes. That woman with PCOS ate an unbalanced diet filled with sugar, gained weight and then developed PCOS. Her being born big is not genetics, it means her mother had a poor diet. This is return means the lady inherited her mother’s bad food choices since her mother is the one who fed her growing up. So imagine that lady eating excess amount of sugar since birth, by her teen years she would’ve already been diagnosed with PCOS!
On my maternal family side my grandfather died of diabetes, some uncles and aunties have diabetes and even my mother. Does that mean it’s genetic? No! My grandfather was a malt addict while my mother and her sisters are Coca Cola addicts (I kid you not she drinks more Coca Cola than water o!😂😂) and on top of that my mother and her brothers like chocolate and biscuits too much. She hides stash of Coca Cola and chocolate. My maternal side of the family has a bad diet that’s why everyone is suffering from the same disease.
In a cooperate job i think they will pick the plus size lady before the skinny because they undermine our ability just looking at us
37:02 no disadvantage keh
Make lion chase me and you make we see who go tire first 😭
Honestly, it’s all in the food. When you start calorie deficit, you’ll see
The eye-roll in 12:26 😅😅😅
Cruise kinda took more time handpicking this people... everybody passing their point without necessarily tryin to make anybody less of their selves.
And yhhh Ephah is such a fineeeee woman🥺🥺🥺
Being slim gets body shamed more I remember praying to God as a child to make me fat ,I never knew what being fat or slim meant but I learnt from being body shamed I'd always ask "how do you know when someone is fat or slim"?
Mr. Mayowa 👏👏💯💯
The Beautiful thing is that he's from the fat side and he knows it's a choice. 👍🏽
The way the girl on orange keeps saying plus size is annoying especially because she said the word fat doesn’t affect her😭
Ephah is such a darling. I love you girly ❤
Either it's a coincidence, Or @cruise and @Jubille are both planning similar vidro upload. Cause i literally watched a similar video from jubilee about 2 days ago.
Buy of course the preference is with my Nigerian side. ❤❤❤
It's definitely just a coincidence 😂😂. We were just finalizing the edit of this episode on Wednesday when we also saw Jubilee's video. We enjoyed the American perspective tho. It's also great to have the Nigerian/African perspective. ❤️
Calories in calories out,it's that simple.
Not when you have underlying health issues
@@Niri777of course there are exceptions.
@@Niri777 And most times those underlying health issues are still a result of a bad unbalanced eating habit.
@@sweetlemonade6925 exactly but Dem no go ever wan hear
The guy with the glasses is the ONLY one speaking facts.
46:30❤....Thank your babe for that strong word
Intelligent people ❤