Im fairly new to 3D printing and have an S1 with a sonic Pad. From watching a few videos isn't using the G sensor on the Hot end / Bed configuring the shaping info to address your first concern? the biggest complaints ive seen is that they dont pause to ask you to move the sensor onto the bed. after reading your comment i decided to try and see if there was a calibration built in as there was with other setting like PID. I didnt find much but did end up at the KLIPPER site which leads me to believe this is more a feature on there end not creatlity? How would you suggest calibrating it?
@@xXOAXxTempest Go into advanced settings to do resonance testing (input shaping). You can do pressure advance on the klipper /sonic homepage on your computer
Thank you for sharing your experience with the *_Sonic Pad_* . Please accept my apologies for the comment on *_Ender-3 S1 Pro_* requesting about this product. After going through your playlist, I finally found this review, so thank you. I hope once I calibrate this with my printer, the quality will be much better and open up more options to print various models I have in mind and downloaded from *_Creality Cloud_* … Look after yourself and each other & Stay Safe. Remember, *_Life_* is *_Short_* so, *_Live Long_* and *_Prosper_* 🖖… Cheers matey…
Dude, you screwed up the install by not following the instructions and then you say it's not as intuitive as you would like? No one else posting these review vids had the problem.
Just a heads up, I tried to setup my V2 Neo using this guide. There is a new profile option for the V2 Neo Specifically if you update your sonic pad, if i used the one you selected it "bricks" the TFT and wont connect to the sonic pad. I needed to re-flash the stock creality firmware and try again having noticed and selected the new profile. Also, For the Resonance setup, dont you need to attatch the sensor to the Y axis for that part of the calibration?
The reason for the problem at flashing the printer was, that the mainboard as the display couldn´t restart because they got powered via the SonicPad. I had the same issue when convertig my Ender3 v1 to Klipper. That´s why I opened up the USB cable from my Raspberry to the printer and cut the "+" wire.
I modified the sensor bracket so it wouldn’t lay on top of the heated bed , the bracket they have for my machine (ENDER3 S1Plus) kept on snapping at the curve of the bracket even after I printed with PETG , it’s pretty solid now . I only had a problem when I upgraded the firmware
you calibrated incorrectly, update your sonicpad and you will have 2 steps for "bed-slingers," first calibration for X,Z and a second process for Z where you have to remount the sensor to the bed directly. makes a huge difference!
You obviously don’t understand how the vibration sensor works. If you have a printer like yours with a “bed slinger” for the Y axis, you must move the sensor to the bed before running the test for Y resonance testing. Once you have run the X resonance test with the sensor mounted on the extruder and the Y resonance test with the sensor firmly taped to the bed, you can remove the sensor and store it away. It is of no use to leave it mounted and connected while printing. I think you will find significant improvement in speed and quality if you perform the resonance tests correctly.
So how does this speed up printing? This makes little sense to me. It's the tag word for this but it basically just an alternate firmware to Marlin. Cant you make the same settings in Marlin and accelerate settings? It's the same pri term hardware wise. ?
hey dude, when we compare the creality ender 3 v2 neo with the Creality Ender 3 s1 print quality, which one do you think is better v2 neo can print at 0.05mm layer height, s1 is 0.1mm layer height. I'm thinking of buying the v2 neo because it's both cheaper and more up-to-date.
I suspect that the resonance sensor is not working correctly because you have it installed backwards. Any changes it makes are backwards, so it makes no improvements.
may sound stupid.... I have the Creality box 2 and it works relatively fine. Speed (with no degradation of quality) is the only reason I would want the CSP. The quality of the 2 benchies didn't seem worth it on quality. Adding another dangling cable (sensor) isn't cool.
just got mine in. you do not need to keep that usb stick in once you do the firmware. also some bl touchs are having issues so check yours if you have one. still testing other stuff but like it so far
Pretty much. The only advantage of this is it adds Raspberry Pi features and a slick touch interface for less hassle and cost than Pi setup. I'm not familiar with clipper, but I don't see how Klipper is any better than Marlin based on all the videos I've seen on this product. With the proper hot end, you can print faster maybe, but thats not guaranteed.
I just got my Sonic Pad Last week and I am having troubles. I have an Ender 3 Max with a CR Touch but there's no profile to auto configure this. When I add the CR Touch via the Printer.CFG I lose all bed leveling options. Any suggestions?
hello Vlad, I have ordered the ender 3 V2 but it came without the display module. I already spoke with the customer service, they will send me one.. I hooked the the sonic pad, will it work with the need of the display module ?
I have an Ender 3 Neo (not the V2). There’s no profile set up for that printer yet, but thinking the bed size is the same and the hardware is similar I tried using the profile for the Neo V2. It goes through setup but seems to think the bed is offset. It’ll start to print as well but stop extruding after the brim. Any advice for this would be helpful as I’m super new to 3D printing.
Great video which I found really useful as I've just got a sonic pad. What I can't find anywhere is the STL file for the bracket for the g sensor. Do you have a link to it, I have an ender 3 v2
Hi just vlad! Following u for a long time since like 2020 n I like watched almost every video of yours since then. Please guide me I want to buy a 3D printer for myself this time so pls gimme some advice, I always get confused which printer should I buy resin printer or a filament printer. Pls help me you would do me a huge favour!
Seeing the board of the printer powered by the Sonic Pad through the usb cable seems reason to worry. You'll basically have two 5V power sources fighting each other over the exact 5V level. That can cause their lifespan to shorten. The 5V lead of the USB cable should be interrupted to be safer. Cannot blame this on the Sonic Pad though. Better printer main boards have a jumper that needs to be connected for the odd case when you want the board to take power over that usb link, but which is off in most cases.
@@broderp Yeah, with batteries, which do not do any voltage regulation, not with switching power supplies that will actively try to maintain what they think the voltage should be.
Hi, this is Jasamine from Creality. Thank for your concern. At present, the sonic pad is in the process of debugging multiple 3D printers, and is expected to be officially released to the public in mid-November, with a maximum of 4 3D printers.Please stay tuned.
I am going to say it’s nice because there’s a larger screen but to me these days when you have to connect so many wires to connect something it is no good I can almost do that on an iPad why would I want something with so much wires wireless and Wi-Fi is the way to go
You have to flash your printer firmware with no option to back up your old? ..nah. text of gcode doesn't scroll...nah...no preview of print? ...nah. Lots of ghosting because speed is too high? Yeah. huge waste of money ... better results with custom firmware and raspberry pi.
1st of all if your using stock firmware then the backup is on the manufacturer site. If not then you can re-download fr wherever you did if you didn't keep the file saved. If it's a self done custom firmware then you should have stored a copy already on your computer. Previews work he was doing something wrong. And if you open the web UI you can see your Gcode and a console. It's no different than using a Pi and klipper. Also it's clear he needs to work on pressure advance as well. Plus he kept upping speed but not acceleration etc. He never hit the set speeds.
Why do you need to backup your old one? It's still on your computer or available from where you got it. He'd get better results if he tuned and didn't just adjust some settings on the fly... you know like you would do in the other scenario
Sent it back, any device that calls back to China, does not give you root/ssh access, has access to camera and my files, and not give you access to set permission and or access does not go on my network.
Chris can you direct me as to how I'd uninstall it and get my printer working as it did before? So far I'm not impressed, speed for the sake of speed when losing quality isn't what I'm looking for it turns out.
Do you have a cell phone? Are you sending it back? It does what your cryin about the pad doing and worse. Don't be a hypocrite. Send back your cell phone and any other wifi device you have now. lol. In time, someone will crack this and gain root. it not, it's no big deal, unless you have something to hide...
I think RN the Neptune 4 pro with klipper installed is a better value than buying this for an Ender 3 v2 Neo/ other ender 3's. Sell your ender and take the 170 you would have spent on this and get the neptune 4 if you want fast quality prints
Great video and explaining the software side was good enough. An in depth would make a test video too complicated. Thanx for the video, always very informative content.
Aurora Tech had a really good review of the Sonic Pad so check it out. Maybe take down this video and redo it after reading the manual and watching her video.
Anyone watching this, you're better off getting a raspberry pi and using Klipper. 100% a better idea than this. Thank you to Vlad for making this extremely good video demonstrating this device. But still better off getting a pi and using Klipper.
Could you elaborate as to why the pi and klipper is better? I’m not particularly savvy and tend to gravitate towards plug and play options. The sonic pad *seems* to fit that mold but I’m a total noob to 3DP.
If u can find a raspi for the price it was meant to be at. Send me a link.. lol.. also, it’s complicated to set up if u don’t know what you’re doing. This makes it easier and u get an actual screen for only $159
@@YourLocalRaccoon I’m a PC Tech and been doing it for years. Not everyone wants to do that shit, is knowledgeable nor has the patience. This makes it easier if you own the printers supported out the box.
I guess this thing is really just for people who want a speed bump and are only marginally concerned about a loss in quality. To me all the Klipper prints looked worse, no matter the speed. It's something I see on all klipper vs marlin tests.
Please read the instructions manual before installation. You messed up whole thing. Thumbs down. Why are you rushing? Read the whole manual, atleast the quick install guide and then proceed to installation.
I installed the sonic pad and it mess ups my brand new printer. Don’t buy this crab , it’s all a big headache and loss of money. Btw no customer support from sonic or creality’
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To show the thumbnail image you can go to Extensions > Post Processing > Modify GCode > Add Script > Add Thumbnail. Then slice and voila :)
You need to do shaper input for both x and y axis and save into config. Also need to do pressure advance
yes, lol that's the whole point! WHY didn't he do it?
Dude made the vid for affiliate money. Failed to actually show why this is worth it.
Im fairly new to 3D printing and have an S1 with a sonic Pad. From watching a few videos isn't using the G sensor on the Hot end / Bed configuring the shaping info to address your first concern? the biggest complaints ive seen is that they dont pause to ask you to move the sensor onto the bed.
after reading your comment i decided to try and see if there was a calibration built in as there was with other setting like PID. I didnt find much but did end up at the KLIPPER site which leads me to believe this is more a feature on there end not creatlity? How would you suggest calibrating it?
@@xXOAXxTempest The firmware was updated a while ago to allow you to move sensor
@@xXOAXxTempest Go into advanced settings to do resonance testing (input shaping). You can do pressure advance on the klipper /sonic homepage on your computer
Thank you for sharing your experience with the *_Sonic Pad_* . Please accept my apologies for the comment on *_Ender-3 S1 Pro_* requesting about this product. After going through your playlist, I finally found this review, so thank you. I hope once I calibrate this with my printer, the quality will be much better and open up more options to print various models I have in mind and downloaded from *_Creality Cloud_* … Look after yourself and each other & Stay Safe. Remember, *_Life_* is *_Short_* so, *_Live Long_* and *_Prosper_* 🖖… Cheers matey…
Dude, you screwed up the install by not following the instructions and then you say it's not as intuitive as you would like? No one else posting these review vids had the problem.
I bet 80% of people don't follow intructions
Just came here to say this truth. He doesnt read but say that product is not good.
Just a heads up, I tried to setup my V2 Neo using this guide. There is a new profile option for the V2 Neo Specifically if you update your sonic pad, if i used the one you selected it "bricks" the TFT and wont connect to the sonic pad. I needed to re-flash the stock creality firmware and try again having noticed and selected the new profile.
Also, For the Resonance setup, dont you need to attatch the sensor to the Y axis for that part of the calibration?
The reason for the problem at flashing the printer was, that the mainboard as the display couldn´t restart because they got powered via the SonicPad. I had the same issue when convertig my Ender3 v1 to Klipper. That´s why I opened up the USB cable from my Raspberry to the printer and cut the "+" wire.
I modified the sensor bracket so it wouldn’t lay on top of the heated bed , the bracket they have for my machine (ENDER3 S1Plus) kept on snapping at the curve of the bracket even after I printed with PETG , it’s pretty solid now . I only had a problem when I upgraded the firmware
Great video. Ender 3 s1 plus review when
you calibrated incorrectly, update your sonicpad and you will have 2 steps for "bed-slingers," first calibration for X,Z and a second process for Z where you have to remount the sensor to the bed directly. makes a huge difference!
You obviously don’t understand how the vibration sensor works. If you have a printer like yours with a “bed slinger” for the Y axis, you must move the sensor to the bed before running the test for Y resonance testing. Once you have run the X resonance test with the sensor mounted on the extruder and the Y resonance test with the sensor firmly taped to the bed, you can remove the sensor and store it away. It is of no use to leave it mounted and connected while printing. I think you will find significant improvement in speed and quality if you perform the resonance tests correctly.
So how does this speed up printing? This makes little sense to me. It's the tag word for this but it basically just an alternate firmware to Marlin. Cant you make the same settings in Marlin and accelerate settings? It's the same pri term hardware wise. ?
Nice review. Mine should be here in a couple of days.
hey dude, when we compare the creality ender 3 v2 neo with the Creality Ender 3 s1 print quality, which one do you think is better v2 neo can print at 0.05mm layer height, s1 is 0.1mm layer height. I'm thinking of buying the v2 neo because it's both cheaper and more up-to-date.
I suspect that the resonance sensor is not working correctly because you have it installed backwards. Any changes it makes are backwards, so it makes no improvements.
may sound stupid.... I have the Creality box 2 and it works relatively fine.
Speed (with no degradation of quality) is the only reason I would want the CSP. The quality of the 2 benchies didn't seem worth it on quality. Adding another dangling cable (sensor) isn't cool.
just got mine in. you do not need to keep that usb stick in once you do the firmware. also some bl touchs are having issues so check yours if you have one. still testing other stuff but like it so far
So its a bigger screen for same stuff
No. It uses Klipper instead of Marlin
Pretty much. The only advantage of this is it adds Raspberry Pi features and a slick touch interface for less hassle and cost than Pi setup. I'm not familiar with clipper, but I don't see how Klipper is any better than Marlin based on all the videos I've seen on this product. With the proper hot end, you can print faster maybe, but thats not guaranteed.
I just got my Sonic Pad Last week and I am having troubles. I have an Ender 3 Max with a CR Touch but there's no profile to auto configure this. When I add the CR Touch via the Printer.CFG I lose all bed leveling options. Any suggestions?
Thanks for reviewing the Pad. I'm wanting to get into 3D priniting and want to know if you can review the Creality CR-10 Smart Pro printer
hello Vlad,
I have ordered the ender 3 V2 but it came without the display module.
I already spoke with the customer service, they will send me one..
I hooked the the sonic pad, will it work with the need of the display module ?
The orientation of the Sensor does infact matter
Can we use it as a hub for the palette 2 ? 🤔
hey @JustVlads, if you have your ender 3 v2 Neo upgraded with a sprite pro, would this work anyways?
I have an Ender 3 Neo (not the V2). There’s no profile set up for that printer yet, but thinking the bed size is the same and the hardware is similar I tried using the profile for the Neo V2. It goes through setup but seems to think the bed is offset. It’ll start to print as well but stop extruding after the brim.
Any advice for this would be helpful as I’m super new to 3D printing.
how do u get the image on the sonic pad so u kno what ur printing
Will this work with my Artillery Genius?
good video, thank you.
Great video which I found really useful as I've just got a sonic pad.
What I can't find anywhere is the STL file for the bracket for the g sensor.
Do you have a link to it, I have an ender 3 v2
How do install the vibration sensor?
Hi just vlad! Following u for a long time since like 2020 n I like watched almost every video of yours since then. Please guide me I want to buy a 3D printer for myself this time so pls gimme some advice, I always get confused which printer should I buy resin printer or a filament printer. Pls help me you would do me a huge favour!
Stock display screen will not work anymore?
Nope, it stays i the Creality screen. Bot a huge deal as you can unplug it and use that nice, huge 7" touchscreen instead.
I don't know why Creality didn't mention that you need to move the sensor to the bed as well.
I just got mine and it prompted me to update the sonic pad, when I did the sensor calibration it prompted me to put the sensor on the bed.
Prompted me to move it to the bed also.
If I set it up and realize it's not for me, how hard is it to go back to the original firmware and is there a tutorial for that?
Dead easy, just flash the original firmware in the normal way from the SD card
i cant get my print to get past the homing part. it fails and gives to errors
Seeing the board of the printer powered by the Sonic Pad through the usb cable seems reason to worry. You'll basically have two 5V power sources fighting each other over the exact 5V level. That can cause their lifespan to shorten. The 5V lead of the USB cable should be interrupted to be safer. Cannot blame this on the Sonic Pad though. Better printer main boards have a jumper that needs to be connected for the odd case when you want the board to take power over that usb link, but which is off in most cases.
How so? Seems like all that's happening is you have two voltage potentials in parallel. This is done with batteries all the time.
@@broderp Yeah, with batteries, which do not do any voltage regulation, not with switching power supplies that will actively try to maintain what they think the voltage should be.
Is it only 1 SonicPad to 1 printer? I can’t use 1 SonicPad for 2 printers?
Hi, this is Jasamine from Creality. Thank for your concern. At present, the sonic pad is in the process of debugging multiple 3D printers, and is expected to be officially released to the public in mid-November, with a maximum of 4 3D printers.Please stay tuned.
I heard there was an update that allowed up to 4 printers to a pad. I'd love to see how that works.
i want it to control multiple printer like my pi
Will this work on Creality Ender 5 Pro?
you have to set it up manually. Watch Teaching tech's info on how to install Klipper.
I’m not exactly sure what’s the point, apart from the fancy screen.
Hay Vlad, is this going to work with the original Ender 3 or just the new Ender 3s?
I think its only for the newer printers but not sure.
Good morning,
what max print speed do you get for good quality?
I am going to say it’s nice because there’s a larger screen but to me these days when you have to connect so many wires to connect something it is no good I can almost do that on an iPad why would I want something with so much wires wireless and Wi-Fi is the way to go
You have to flash your printer firmware with no option to back up your old? ..nah. text of gcode doesn't scroll...nah...no preview of print? ...nah. Lots of ghosting because speed is too high? Yeah. huge waste of money ... better results with custom firmware and raspberry pi.
1st of all if your using stock firmware then the backup is on the manufacturer site. If not then you can re-download fr wherever you did if you didn't keep the file saved. If it's a self done custom firmware then you should have stored a copy already on your computer.
Previews work he was doing something wrong. And if you open the web UI you can see your Gcode and a console.
It's no different than using a Pi and klipper. Also it's clear he needs to work on pressure advance as well. Plus he kept upping speed but not acceleration etc. He never hit the set speeds.
Why do you need to backup your old one? It's still on your computer or available from where you got it. He'd get better results if he tuned and didn't just adjust some settings on the fly... you know like you would do in the other scenario
Sent it back, any device that calls back to China, does not give you root/ssh access, has access to camera and my files, and not give you access to set permission and or access does not go on my network.
Chris can you direct me as to how I'd uninstall it and get my printer working as it did before? So far I'm not impressed, speed for the sake of speed when losing quality isn't what I'm looking for it turns out.
Do you have a cell phone? Are you sending it back? It does what your cryin about the pad doing and worse. Don't be a hypocrite. Send back your cell phone and any other wifi device you have now. lol. In time, someone will crack this and gain root. it not, it's no big deal, unless you have something to hide...
Bro you have to put the sensor on the y axis on the center of the bed 😅 dammit
it looks buggy still
I think RN the Neptune 4 pro with klipper installed is a better value than buying this for an Ender 3 v2 Neo/ other ender 3's. Sell your ender and take the 170 you would have spent on this and get the neptune 4 if you want fast quality prints
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Excellent video, very helpful for myself. Thanks for posting.
Great video and explaining the software side was good enough. An in depth would make a test video too complicated. Thanx for the video, always very informative content.
Go watch Aurora Tech's video and then rewatch this.
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Aurora Tech had a really good review of the Sonic Pad so check it out. Maybe take down this video and redo it after reading the manual and watching her video.
Anyone watching this, you're better off getting a raspberry pi and using Klipper. 100% a better idea than this.
Thank you to Vlad for making this extremely good video demonstrating this device. But still better off getting a pi and using Klipper.
Could you elaborate as to why the pi and klipper is better? I’m not particularly savvy and tend to gravitate towards plug and play options. The sonic pad *seems* to fit that mold but I’m a total noob to 3DP.
If u can find a raspi for the price it was meant to be at. Send me a link.. lol.. also, it’s complicated to set up if u don’t know what you’re doing. This makes it easier and u get an actual screen for only $159
@@CDub512 bigtreetech has a pi clone for $50, and just follow a tutorial on UA-cam
@@YourLocalRaccoon I’m a PC Tech and been doing it for years. Not everyone wants to do that shit, is knowledgeable nor has the patience. This makes it easier if you own the printers supported out the box.
Lmao klipper is klipper you can custom config a profile if you don't want to use crealitys. A Pi wpuld be no different really.
I guess this thing is really just for people who want a speed bump and are only marginally concerned about a loss in quality. To me all the Klipper prints looked worse, no matter the speed. It's something I see on all klipper vs marlin tests.
Please read the instructions manual before installation. You messed up whole thing. Thumbs down. Why are you rushing? Read the whole manual, atleast the quick install guide and then proceed to installation.
Spaz click. To fast to get anything useful out of this video.
The Sonic Pad is kind alike a virus in a way, It takes over your printer and your the printer can't boot up normally anymore.
I installed the sonic pad and it mess ups my brand new printer. Don’t buy this crab , it’s all a big headache and loss of money. Btw no customer support from sonic or creality’
You’re probably just new to printing and don’t know what you’re doing
LOL, you seriously thought pointing out it had the Creality logo on the back was somehow relevant to the unboxing?