the cost ... 1 college course is usually 3 credits, 1 average college credit is around $300+ US dollars, Sophia Learning is "All you can eat" for $100 month. Meaning for $100 a month you could finish as many courses (most are 3 credits per each) you want/can get done. Isn't about quality or time, is all about getting cheaper way to access a degree. If you will really have the money and time to wait years for a degree, then you will not even know Sophia exists.
I totally get your point. I prefer hacking through Universities, but also getting funding through scholarships and grants. Anyone can get scholarships. It's crazy, but you can actually do it faster, and pay less than even Sophia. But also walk away with a better degree. I've had students earn Bachelor's Degrees in 3 months with ZERO 3rd party credits, and also pay zero in tuition. So, I totally understand the intrigue of $100 per month... But if you play your cards right, you can have a stronger degree, from better schools, without having 3rd party exams on your transcripts, but still pay zero... and actually end up faster than the 3rd party method.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 I understand your thinking and I resptect your view, on my experience whiever wants a "better college degree" isnt thinkiing on "hacks" is doign the regular path, bur good luck with ur business.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 so tell us where is this school people can earn a bachelors degree in 3 months with zero in tuition. I don’t care if Sophia is risky, what intrigued me is you saying there are better options…share it.
Wow I am glad I am finished. That is SAD if their doing this to people who are struggling with tuition. We want to finish fast and there is no time to wait as an adult.
Actually, SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
Bro, you just contradicted yourself and the whole point of your channel. If you can't knock out a large portion of the degree from third party sources, what's the point of choosing competency based schools and how would they be "hackable"?
To my knowledge, I'm the first to use the term "Degree Hacking". And it's definition is not to take some of your classes through 3rd parties. I don't get how that's "Hacking". That's just taking classes somewhere else. Another dude from another channel started using the term "College Hacking" after hearing me use "Degree Hacking". His definition is to take classes through 3rd parties. But we're talking about 2 different things. I totally get the confusion though... Wish that dude didn't copy my phrase 😂.. Not cool, right?! I'm a much bigger fan of testing out of classes inside of these schools. Not through 3rd parties. And not just "taking" the classes through these schools. I actually have a process for hacking them. Hope that helps clarify.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 Yes, I'm familiar with College Hacked, my other favorite channel and I happen to agree with their definition of college hacking which is finishing both quickly and inexpensively, something that third party sources allow you to do. Being enrolled in a school such as WGU mean paying over $4000 per term or even much more than that if enrolled in a school that charges per credit hour. You would still have to pay these fees even if you decided to test out, so I don't see how that could be cheaper. I'm all about saving money and finishing quickly, not just the latter.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 Im 49 and the term "degree hacked" had been used for many years even before UA-cam begins.... I got a book in 99 or 2000 call "schools hacks" how to get ur degree faster ... you believe to be the first and that's OK but what you presenting isn't new at all buddy.
Very cool! Just make sure you're mapping out which classes you need to take, and that the nursing program you're wanting to get into doesn't limit Sophia.
I thought about this, a fast math course needed for lower math but when I get to upper I need a higher math very risky not prepared, thanks for the truth
Hey man, I have a question. I agree with everything you said. Personally, I did decide to do the Sophia route and transfer it to SNHU mainly because my employer had a partnership with them and they did pay the good portion of the degree, and I made it even cheaper by doing Sophia courses. I thought it was a good idea to go that route just for the financial part of it, and luckily I will graduate a little over one year, still not under one year sadly, but at least this faster than me starting from scratch. But anyways, I was curious about something. I heard that WGU does not assign a GPA to students. I heard that you just get a passing or non-passing score. There's no A's orbies or a cumulative GPA that is asign. So I am curious how that would work for certain graduate programs. Because, I have heard that a lot of graduate programs require you to have a GPA such as medical school, law school, and some PhD programs, so how would that work. And, do you have a solution to this problem? Also, I'm not saying WGU is not a good school, I'm just simply curious how this would work with the GPA issue, and if there's a way around that. Thanks!
Great question. Yes, you basically get a Pass or Fail grade for each class. B or higher is a pass, everything else you have to re-take. This can be an issue with some undergrad programs. But oddly enough, I haven't seen it be a big issue with WGU. They have solid relationships with very high level Master's and Grad programs. It sounds crazy, but 7 out of the 8 Ivy League schools have accepted WGU grads into their Master's programs. And I've seen students get accepted into very solid Law School's and Medical. Having said that, if you're planning on attending a specific post grad program... Always map out your path ahead of time. For example, if it's Law School... Call your desired Law School on the phone and make sure they accept the Bachelor's Degree you're wanting to earn. Hope this helps!
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 thank you so much! Looks like it just takes some research and negotiation. I am planning to do WGU for a master's level program after I'm done with SNHU. Again, thank you very much! Thank you for helping students to avoid that and not to waste years of their life to get a degree.
Just a small strategy tweak can make a huge difference. Don't worry, it won't be hard to do. Shoot me an email and I'll help you map something out. (ryan@9monthgrad.com)
Don’t listen to them you did not mess up . As you may already know by now WGU has a whole transfer page dedicated to Sophia Learning. Not sure why that person told you to try to change schools when WGU is well known for accepting Sophia credits . Could it change ? Absolutely, but it hasn’t , so go for it.
Transfered almost 40 credits to WGU with no issue from Sophia. As long as you transfer the credits they offer they are fine with it. Not sure why this video is saying this. My transfers went through last week.
Hi Ryan I’m a prospective degree hacker from Canada I would like to transfer to the US the 100% online schools don’t issue student visas so I need to find one that can get me in as a international student and I’m highly motivated to test out of the classes any college/university recommendations are highly appreciated
Im very grateful my school accepts a large amount of Sophia courses. While I feel like I'm not learning as much there are gen eds so it's not like I was gonna remember them anyway. They may be changing it in the upcoming year though. 100% agree on math though lol I tried to take an upper level after Sophia and failed miserably.
They're toying with only accepting Sophia credits as electives but not counting them towards actual required classes. The scary thing is, schools can just change whether they'll accept at any time. And I know there are a lot of schools who hate that Sophia doesn't proctor their exams. Maybe they'll change that in the future. But for now, Sophia credits are yes.. easy to get but in the eyes of high level programs they're pretty weak credits.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671it was a misunderstanding though. They did decided to still accept Sophia courses. I think they just stopped accepting one or two classes. But they're still in business with Sophia.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671actually, he's correct. SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
I'm sure I can help you save a lot of time.. Shoot me an email with some info about your goals and what you're wanting to do. I'll see how I can help (ryan@9monthgrad.com)
Took as many classes I could for my health science degree at LU and they all transferred. If they weren’t required by my degree they added them to electives. classes needed for my degree were added to the degree!!
Actually, SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
There are 2 active Course in my deshboard. I can't finished that course.. So i cant run another course also. So how can i quit a course.. Because already have 2 active courses. I can take this course when you finish one of my current courses???
Hello, in my case, I only have a high school diploma and I would like to start from scratch to get a high school degree. What do you recommend? Would it be good to start with Sophia?
I would probably suggest accelerating the degree from inside a respected University. Shoot me an email (ryan@9monthgrad.com) and I'll see if I can help you find a path that's good for your situation.
Well just go to an online university that accepts them. Sometimes it’s not necessarily about earning a degree. Many jobs that pay higher salaries want you have a higher level of education but don’t necessarily require a degree. They may just require a certain amount of credit hours in certain subjects ie courses in the social sciences or course credits in the area of business. Sophia is perfect for that if you’re not necessarily concerned about the actual degree. What’s even better is that you can get it done in a short period of time(depending on how much time and effort you’re willing to invest in the courses)
Most employers are going to want your college credits on actual college transcripts even if they don't require a full degree. I've never heard of an employer being cool with some classes listed on a Sophia.org transcript. They don't actually count as college classes until they've been accepted by a University. Even then, the transcripts are still separate. If you find an employer that will give you a job, promotion, or raise just by having some Sophia courses, that's pretty cool! Take advantage! Just make sure you're not taking Sophia courses in hopes that it's going to help without getting the degree. It's usually not the case.
Yep, and even then you have to be careful. I just talked to a student who did most of their Gen Ed through Sophia.. then they enrolled in school and the school changed the course requirements a few weeks before she enrolled. She lost a ton of credits.
On a unrelated topic do you have any information on Ecpi by chance? They are a for profit university but their online mechanical engineering looks really enticing.
Looks like they are Regionally Accredited... ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/institution-profile/152619 But they don't have self paced programs. The acceleration process they offer is basically... Do the same amount of work in less time. You'd pretty much be an around the clock student for 2.5 years.
Hi I like what you said about Testing out of classes And getting credit for 1 College class per week. That is very informative! Can you please give me An example of a college and a course that I could test out of in about A week? I am just trying to get a feel for How this works. Thank you!!!
Just about every college class for my entire degree I tested out of in under a week. Here's a tutorial where I lay out how it works... www.DiplomaSecrets.com
Definitely not. It’s on your if you can’t finish your courses in the 6 mths terms they give you . WGU is known to be very affordable compared to the online based schools.
You go to college to grow as a person, not to accumulate credits. You go to Ivy League schools to make connections with the rich, bored kids going there. And so on.
I think that depends. If you're a busy adult with 20 years of experience in your field, but HR wants you to have a degree in order to get a promotion, hacks are the way to go. If you're just graduating high school or something, then maybe you should go for the full experience, if you can afford it. Everyone has different circumstances, and there are far better ways to gain life experience and personal growth than going into debt.
the cost ... 1 college course is usually 3 credits, 1 average college credit is around $300+ US dollars, Sophia Learning is "All you can eat" for $100 month. Meaning for $100 a month you could finish as many courses (most are 3 credits per each) you want/can get done. Isn't about quality or time, is all about getting cheaper way to access a degree. If you will really have the money and time to wait years for a degree, then you will not even know Sophia exists.
I totally get your point. I prefer hacking through Universities, but also getting funding through scholarships and grants. Anyone can get scholarships. It's crazy, but you can actually do it faster, and pay less than even Sophia. But also walk away with a better degree. I've had students earn Bachelor's Degrees in 3 months with ZERO 3rd party credits, and also pay zero in tuition.
So, I totally understand the intrigue of $100 per month... But if you play your cards right, you can have a stronger degree, from better schools, without having 3rd party exams on your transcripts, but still pay zero... and actually end up faster than the 3rd party method.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 I understand your thinking and I resptect your view, on my experience whiever wants a "better college degree"
isnt thinkiing on "hacks" is doign the regular path, bur good luck with ur business.
I want to do the course. I have done many courses before this. you can knock me?
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 so tell us where is this school people can earn a bachelors degree in 3 months with zero in tuition. I don’t care if Sophia is risky, what intrigued me is you saying there are better options…share it.
Wow I am glad I am finished. That is SAD if their doing this to people who are struggling with tuition. We want to finish fast and there is no time to wait as an adult.
Yep, if you're done... you're in the clear!
Actually, SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
Bro, you just contradicted yourself and the whole point of your channel. If you can't knock out a large portion of the degree from third party sources, what's the point of choosing competency based schools and how would they be "hackable"?
To my knowledge, I'm the first to use the term "Degree Hacking". And it's definition is not to take some of your classes through 3rd parties. I don't get how that's "Hacking". That's just taking classes somewhere else. Another dude from another channel started using the term "College Hacking" after hearing me use "Degree Hacking". His definition is to take classes through 3rd parties.
But we're talking about 2 different things. I totally get the confusion though... Wish that dude didn't copy my phrase 😂.. Not cool, right?!
I'm a much bigger fan of testing out of classes inside of these schools. Not through 3rd parties. And not just "taking" the classes through these schools. I actually have a process for hacking them.
Hope that helps clarify.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 Yes, I'm familiar with College Hacked, my other favorite channel and I happen to agree with their definition of college hacking which is finishing both quickly and inexpensively, something that third party sources allow you to do. Being enrolled in a school such as WGU mean paying over $4000 per term or even much more than that if enrolled in a school that charges per credit hour. You would still have to pay these fees even if you decided to test out, so I don't see how that could be cheaper. I'm all about saving money and finishing quickly, not just the latter.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 what method you use that is different from the other college hack guy UA-cam?
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 How to pass those tests quickly inside these colleges and schools?
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 Im 49 and the term "degree hacked" had been used for many years even before UA-cam begins.... I got a book in 99 or 2000 call "schools hacks" how to get ur degree faster ... you believe to be the first and that's OK but what you presenting isn't new at all buddy.
I’m just using Sophia to knock out my prerequisites for nursing.
Very cool! Just make sure you're mapping out which classes you need to take, and that the nursing program you're wanting to get into doesn't limit Sophia.
Exactly, make sure your desired nursing school accepts Sophia credit.
Yeah I'm taking classes to knock out my psychology degree
I thought about this, a fast math course needed for lower math but when I get to upper I need a higher math very risky not prepared, thanks for the truth
Hey man, I have a question. I agree with everything you said. Personally, I did decide to do the Sophia route and transfer it to SNHU mainly because my employer had a partnership with them and they did pay the good portion of the degree, and I made it even cheaper by doing Sophia courses. I thought it was a good idea to go that route just for the financial part of it, and luckily I will graduate a little over one year, still not under one year sadly, but at least this faster than me starting from scratch. But anyways, I was curious about something. I heard that WGU does not assign a GPA to students. I heard that you just get a passing or non-passing score. There's no A's orbies or a cumulative GPA that is asign. So I am curious how that would work for certain graduate programs. Because, I have heard that a lot of graduate programs require you to have a GPA such as medical school, law school, and some PhD programs, so how would that work. And, do you have a solution to this problem? Also, I'm not saying WGU is not a good school, I'm just simply curious how this would work with the GPA issue, and if there's a way around that.
Thanks!
Great question. Yes, you basically get a Pass or Fail grade for each class. B or higher is a pass, everything else you have to re-take. This can be an issue with some undergrad programs. But oddly enough, I haven't seen it be a big issue with WGU. They have solid relationships with very high level Master's and Grad programs.
It sounds crazy, but 7 out of the 8 Ivy League schools have accepted WGU grads into their Master's programs. And I've seen students get accepted into very solid Law School's and Medical.
Having said that, if you're planning on attending a specific post grad program... Always map out your path ahead of time. For example, if it's Law School... Call your desired Law School on the phone and make sure they accept the Bachelor's Degree you're wanting to earn.
Hope this helps!
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 thank you so much! Looks like it just takes some research and negotiation. I am planning to do WGU for a master's level program after I'm done with SNHU. Again, thank you very much! Thank you for helping students to avoid that and not to waste years of their life to get a degree.
I just signed up for Sophia today and started my first class there for transferring to WGU. Did I mess up?
No but try to change the school if your looking to transfer alot of credits
Just a small strategy tweak can make a huge difference. Don't worry, it won't be hard to do. Shoot me an email and I'll help you map something out. (ryan@9monthgrad.com)
i am planning on transferring 7 courses total. almost done with the first 2@@momoftwobunnies
Don’t listen to them you did not mess up . As you may already know by now WGU has a whole transfer page dedicated to Sophia Learning. Not sure why that person told you to try to change schools when WGU is well known for accepting Sophia credits . Could it change ? Absolutely, but it hasn’t , so go for it.
Transfered almost 40 credits to WGU with no issue from Sophia. As long as you transfer the credits they offer they are fine with it. Not sure why this video is saying this. My transfers went through last week.
Hey Ryan I missed the zoom meeting. Can I I reschedule it ? Thank yoj
Shoot me an email and I'll get you taken care of. (ryan@9monthgrad.com)
Hi Ryan I’m a prospective degree hacker from Canada I would like to transfer to the US the 100% online schools don’t issue student visas so I need to find one that can get me in as a international student and I’m highly motivated to test out of the classes any college/university recommendations are highly appreciated
Shoot me an email (ryan@9monthgrad.com) ... I'm happy to help you find a solid path.
Im very grateful my school accepts a large amount of Sophia courses. While I feel like I'm not learning as much there are gen eds so it's not like I was gonna remember them anyway. They may be changing it in the upcoming year though. 100% agree on math though lol I tried to take an upper level after Sophia and failed miserably.
I belive that SNHU is accepting Sophia. And that email was miss understanding from the enrollment advisor no?
They're toying with only accepting Sophia credits as electives but not counting them towards actual required classes. The scary thing is, schools can just change whether they'll accept at any time. And I know there are a lot of schools who hate that Sophia doesn't proctor their exams. Maybe they'll change that in the future. But for now, Sophia credits are yes.. easy to get but in the eyes of high level programs they're pretty weak credits.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671it was a misunderstanding though. They did decided to still accept Sophia courses. I think they just stopped accepting one or two classes. But they're still in business with Sophia.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671actually, he's correct. SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
I just need a bachelors degree it doesn’t matter in what. Sophia is perfect for me.
Awesome! Most people aren't in that situation, but if degree quality doesn't matter.. and it will get you your dream job.. go for it!
I am about to go to school and i am a mon of 5 do you have any hacks for me?
I'm sure I can help you save a lot of time.. Shoot me an email with some info about your goals and what you're wanting to do. I'll see how I can help (ryan@9monthgrad.com)
Can anyone else verify how accurate this is?
im still seeing WGU accept sophia. I've done 12 classes on there so I hope it still counts
Took as many classes I could for my health science degree at LU and they all transferred. If they weren’t required by my degree they added them to electives. classes needed for my degree were added to the degree!!
Actually, SNHU was never planning to stop accepting Sophia courses for general education. It was actually a miscommunication with one of the advisors. But SNHU has made an official statement saying they're still accepting Sophia and that email was a mistake. Most people thought it was true but it turned out it was actually never true. They're still accepting Sofia for both electives and general education.
There are 2 active Course in my deshboard. I can't finished that course.. So i cant run another course also. So how can i quit a course.. Because already have 2 active courses.
I can take this course when you finish one of my current courses???
I'd reach out to their customer service team.
Theres an option under each course that says "drop". Just click it.
Hello, in my case, I only have a high school diploma and I would like to start from scratch to get a high school degree. What do you recommend? Would it be good to start with Sophia?
I would probably suggest accelerating the degree from inside a respected University. Shoot me an email (ryan@9monthgrad.com) and I'll see if I can help you find a path that's good for your situation.
Well just go to an online university that accepts them. Sometimes it’s not necessarily about earning a degree. Many jobs that pay higher salaries want you have a higher level of education but don’t necessarily require a degree. They may just require a certain amount of credit hours in certain subjects ie courses in the social sciences or course credits in the area of business. Sophia is perfect for that if you’re not necessarily concerned about the actual degree. What’s even better is that you can get it done in a short period of time(depending on how much time and effort you’re willing to invest in the courses)
Most employers are going to want your college credits on actual college transcripts even if they don't require a full degree. I've never heard of an employer being cool with some classes listed on a Sophia.org transcript. They don't actually count as college classes until they've been accepted by a University. Even then, the transcripts are still separate.
If you find an employer that will give you a job, promotion, or raise just by having some Sophia courses, that's pretty cool! Take advantage! Just make sure you're not taking Sophia courses in hopes that it's going to help without getting the degree. It's usually not the case.
Is University of People bad? There are some transferable credits from Sophia.
I don't like U of the People at all.
Sophia is good just for general ed courses
Yep, and even then you have to be careful. I just talked to a student who did most of their Gen Ed through Sophia.. then they enrolled in school and the school changed the course requirements a few weeks before she enrolled. She lost a ton of credits.
Hey.Is it somehow possible for an international student to get admission at WGU?
I have seen WGU accept International Students with special permission. I always recommend reaching out to their admissions office.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 I've contacted them and the answer was: not accepting people not resident in the States :(
On a unrelated topic do you have any information on Ecpi by chance? They are a for profit university but their online mechanical engineering looks really enticing.
Looks like they are Regionally Accredited...
ope.ed.gov/dapip/#/institution-profile/152619
But they don't have self paced programs. The acceleration process they offer is basically... Do the same amount of work in less time. You'd pretty much be an around the clock student for 2.5 years.
@@9monthcollegegrad-ryansway671 I appreciate you taking a look into it.
Hi
I like what you said about
Testing out of classes
And getting credit for 1
College class per week.
That is very informative!
Can you please give me
An example of a college and a course that I could test out of in about
A week?
I am just trying to get a feel for
How this works.
Thank you!!!
Just about every college class for my entire degree I tested out of in under a week. Here's a tutorial where I lay out how it works... www.DiplomaSecrets.com
WoW!
That is outstanding!
Testing out of a class,
In a week is outstanding!
I will need to talk to you soon!!!
Thank you!!!
It's not about learning with WGU, they want more money.
Definitely not. It’s on your if you can’t finish your courses in the 6 mths terms they give you . WGU is known to be very affordable compared to the online based schools.
You go to college to grow as a person, not to accumulate credits. You go to Ivy League schools to make connections with the rich, bored kids going there. And so on.
I agree about making connections at high level schools.
I think that depends. If you're a busy adult with 20 years of experience in your field, but HR wants you to have a degree in order to get a promotion, hacks are the way to go. If you're just graduating high school or something, then maybe you should go for the full experience, if you can afford it. Everyone has different circumstances, and there are far better ways to gain life experience and personal growth than going into debt.
@@Jersey.D3vil201 Well said!