For The Fans! | Dropped Frames Episode 359
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It's a busy weekend with two fan conventions happening at the same time: Final Fantasy XIV's FanFest & Path of Exile's ExileCon! Announcing a new expansion for the critically acclaimed Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail as well as a ton of new info for the long-awaited Path of Exile 2. In other news Project L gives an update ahead of EVO 2023, Ubisoft cancels projects, there's weird drama with Armored Core VI! Games this week: The Expanse: A Telltale Game, Punc Club 2, Unholy & more!
0:00 - 0:50 - 4 more days
13:50 - Larian making a new Divinity Original Sin?
16:30 - X
17:50 - Armored Core VI drama
25:20 - Path of Exile 2
49:40 - Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail
58:10 - Final Fantasy XIV coming to XBOX
1:01:50 - Fall Guys x FFXIV
1:08:25 - Ubisoft cancels Immortal Fenyx sequel
1:10:50 - Ratchet & Clank on Steam... Nobody playing
1:12:45 - Remnant 2 topping the charts
1:18:35 - New Project L news
1:25:30 - Sea of Stars went gold
1:28:20 - Tencent
1:28:55 - Starfield Lore
1:30:00 - Twisted Metal show is good?
1:31:20 - The Witcher 3 season 3
1:46:20 - Halls of Torment
1:53:20 - Unholy
1:59:30 - The Expanse: A Telltale Game
2:04:00 - The Puzzler
2:21:40 - Octopath Traveler 2
2:23:40 - Punch Club 2
2:29:00 - The advertisement game
2:35:10 - Doomsday Hunters
2:38:00 - Cat game
2:42:45 - Ghosts
2:49:20 - Vaudeville
2:53:20 - Toxic co-op
2:59:00 - Shoutouts
2:31:50 - Wartale spoilers
2:35:20 - DC Dual Force
2:41:00 - NPC streaming
2:48:10 - Cohh is a game producer now
2:49:55 - Sea of Thieves: Monkey Island Part 1
2:59:50 - Shoutouts
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this episode should have been called “What’s that Sound?!”
The entire episode, I kept thinking my kids were wrestling in their room.
9:34 "No reviewer will be able to see the whole game"
Mortismal: Hold my beer
I'm honestly very excited for his review. Probably wont be until next year sometime though lol
With regards of PoE 2 and difficulty, I agree with JP - showcase looked bad, but I'm not worried about it for 2 reasons - totally new game, they were given premade characters who were also undergeared for the zone they were in and lastly, even in PoE1 it's "off" when you just get a completely new character to you and you don't know the proper rotation or how to play it, etc. But if you get the progression of that character and style, I'm sure the playthrough will be much better. The demo was made harder than what it actually is, I'm not sure why they chose to do that. Someone said that they were in Act 4 and looked at their character, and he was given gear that resulted in having about 30 all res. That's the equivalent of having 30 res in act 7 or something like that in PoE1.
One thing I noticed is that due to the movement of skills, particularly the warrior, you can result in having an attack miss while the mob is directly in front of you. That looked and felt very off to me. It would mean that you have to pre-attack approaching monsters and always move back-attack to get in position. Which may be fun for a while, but if you have to do that end-game as well, it may be tiring. Having skill based combat is great, but having it all the time can be exhausting.
they always said that exile con showcases are hypertuned (mainly to curb expectations that its a zoom zoom game and slower combat makes better showcase of animations and skills and synergies instead of just a flying blur). and they made poe2 to realize their vision. which is a slower game. but at this point they can no longer take away the zoom zoom of poe 1. they tried to "tone it down" and people rioted and sent death threats to ggg. its grown out of hand for poe 1 to the point of no return.
Yeah when Kripp was playing it was clear to me that other characters were just badly prepared. Maybe they didn't have the time to set up proper gear? Maybe proper gear wasn't ready for the demo?
@@emzdanowicz2775 they could have easily given them any gear they want, but they chose to make it harder than it is normally. Why? I don't know. At any rate, with PoE2 they should be making it so more casual gamers aren't scared off by the game. While I absolutely love what I saw, I have to say that I would not like if pretty much all moment-to-moment combat is a mini Elden Ring experience. That should be reserved for bosses and select rares.
As an armored core vet. The game is so fast paced and the maps are so huge that the game's engine can't have the photo realism that others do.
Also art direction is more important.
Can’t tell y’all how much I love this show guys.
2 hours, 14 minutes, 37 seconds when you ask Coh to make the sound it comes in loud & clear on my wireless ear bud like a drum beat so J.P. it's not just you lol!
I think the Phil moment at Fanfest was actually kinda wholesome.
Everyone acts like they would be perfect on-stage speaking in front of a million people. Reading off a teleprompter is perfecty fine for someone like Spencer.
I definitely think people feel less and less confident about that stuff, it’s just that ones who think they would be perfect at it are the loudest but the fewest or close to.
The AC6 talk is so confusing bc firstly the game visually maybe moreso artstyle is very apealing to me, secondly what the game shows for me is incredibly impressive. And lastly surface level talks of how studios should ditch an engine for UE5 so it can "look good" is so incredibly ignorant and out of touch with game development. UE5 talk in general has annoyed me this gen
It's also kind of funny to me considering a game we can compare it to, Mechwarrior 5; was plagued with bugs and prefab designs for maps. A lot of AC 6s gameplay looks to have expansive maps that are handcrafted. I wish Mechwarrior had a city landscape that looked as good as the couple mission scenarios we got to see.
People are schools of fishes, they just follow the shiniest lantern
@@pinolskun8764It’s that tiktok brain, “no pretty, no fun”. So stupid.
The Phill Spencer part of Fanfest was super weird, was watching it with him constantly saying "We at team XBOX, Love Final Fantasy" i am sure the Xbox community realy love FF so much they did not buy 13 or 15 much on it. But for 14 it was Xbox that did not want to do crossplay (thier own xbox servers) and wanted you to pay double for it (xbx gold sub and a 14 sub). It will be interesting to see how many new players it will bring in to 14 the beta test will be running from 6.5 in october to their client release at 7.0. If most of the xbox players will be free trailers they might be angry if there was another EW issue when they had to stop free trial players from playing because of the amount of Subcribers coming back for 6.0
The best part is that me with my cheap earphones, didn't hear anything the whole episode. It was hilarious
omg, I was sitting the entire show, constantly wondering if that's someone banging on my doors
Zeke: my friends and I just finished a weekend-long "ttRPG Con", and during one of the down times, I literally told them that I, too, just like hearing nerds talk about nerd stuff. :3
Holy crap, I thought that was outside my house and I was getting pissed
DOS2 has Metacritic of 93 and JP and Cohh think BG3 can't crack 90, come on haha.
Metacritic isnt reliable.
Yep. My guess is 91 or 92. I don't see how a game (early access) gets so much praise and suddenly on launch gets less than that. Not even with all the bugs that will surely appear.
I think 90 +/- 2. Bugs, expectations and a compressed review period souring some reviewers could drive it down.
there are gonna be too many eyes on BG3, DOS2 was pretty limited to the genre so it didn't have a bunch of random reviewers picking it up. There are a lot of really good games that just simply can't break 90 because all it takes is a couple bad reviews to make it virtually impossible
As of today, 92 on Opencritic, 94 on Metacritic. As expected.
zeke should take a look at the first divinity (2002) - which was like a diablo clone with actual rpg elements
Why would Dawntrail be a filler expansion when there's never been a filler expansion before? I don't understand how that's even a topic
Yea, I'll take stable 60fps on console and 120fps on pc over slightly better graphics
Same with all hardcore gamers but, unfortunately, most of the general public don't care about that. They want flashy.
@@nelliott500 flashy and better graphics don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Maybe BG3 Reviews shouldbe listed as either savescum or not savescum reviews.........quick save quick load will be getting much use in my playthrough 😅
2:29:00 I love that Zeke actually played this
(armored core drama) as i say i dont care if it looks bad as long as the gameplay is good
If only more people recognized that as a good pov, proud of you
good take on why, some Balder Gate 3 metacritics might be low, due to the play style / choices (if unhappy) of the reviewer..
... like when some games have unexpectedly difficult moments, frustration
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=> expect Balders Gate metacritic average to be around 93% too ..., it will be a clear Goty candidate!
Am I just realizing that the stutter in the intro is a Dropped Frame...
Yes.
Original Sin 2 has 93 Metacritic. Why BG3 cant :P
And PoE2 exists as a separate thing cause the gameplay feels different. It's more methodical and slower IMO, that's why the games are separate. If you wanna zoom through maps, PoE1 will be ther.
I feel like it’s going to be review bombed by people who just hate anything popular and took the bear scene seriously, it’s similar to the elden ring hate. But we never know, I really hope the BG3 community comes out on top.
JP, I also never finished FF6, got to the end and the cat stepped on the SNES and ejected the cartridge.
I think Zeke would be great as Zoltan.
Wholeass mini game is much better then a Halfassed mini game
i will say zekes indie segment is my favorite
I think it's funny that Skillup is the source of a lot of these criticisms about how AC6 looks lol, he did not enjoy how the world looked
isnt fextralife the source of the discourse?
All the efforts in explaining at the start of the FFXIV Fan Fest Keynote was all a waste because there are morons who cannot understand or just simply do not want to understand what was said. THIS IS THE START OF A NEW STORY ARC. For God sake, how simple can it be.
Eh
Remnant class leveling is painstakingly long, it scales the more you have leveled, I am 90 hours in and I have 2 more classes to level, which will probably take me another 15-20 hours
27:08 i 1000% agree with
Zeke you could call mixe review Either Mixed review Monday or Mixed Monday!
How long after a new gen is released do we normally see AAA games drop old gen? Can we expect the bar to be raised to current gen in 12 months?
Good show!
People are hyped for baldurs gate because from the early access those who got to play it enjoyed the hell out of it and are surprised that there is a game that a company actually put so much effort and thought into it, which isnt common in todays game development
Built my pc nearly 3 years ago and BG3 was the first game I bought
Yeah sounds like Cohh is still confused the endgame of Path Exile 2 will still have content from all the leagues of PoE just some have been changed slightly. But that's not different from what PoE 1 does for the most part. Also, they said over and over that the content was over tuned to be overly difficult at the con same as they did last exilecon. They were all using skills either without supports or with only 1 support.
So playing the actual final game will be far easier.
Gotta love Cohh going off on chat for saying Dawntrail isn't a filler expansion then right after, "If it's not filler... it would basically have to be starting a new arc?" Dude...
I didn't know ff community hurt him this much lmao
The mental gymnastics from Cohh is so funny.
on the armoured core drama. the exact same conversation about graphics came up with Elden ring, it's from software none of their modern games are graphic show cases and most have performance issues. they usually make up for it in art design though saying that for gameplay reasons armoured core has a lot of very large flat areas.
it's simply something they don't do well/prioritise, i don't believe they use some old type of Unreal so just "making it in UE5" isnt a thing.
they are kind of in a Bethesda situation, everyone wants them to use a "better" engine but they don't/can't and are happy with what they have.
People are also forgetting that all Xbox games have to run on the Series S, which would limit graphical performance even if they dropped the previous gen. But yeah, I think people don't quite understand how expensive switching over to a new engine is. UE5 may well end up being so good that it essentially forces all AAA developers to switch over to it, but even that would take time and face a lot of resistance. I also don't think it would be particularly healthy for the industry.
As to Bethesda, I have little patience for their engine problems. I get that their core code isn't well documented, but if you're going to keep using an engine there's literally no excuse to not get people going through it and fixing the documentaiton (and other core issues). But on that same note, I don't think switching to a new engine is going to be some magic bullet for them, since their reluctance to fix the core issues with their current engine seems to be deeply cultural and would absolutely follow them through any engine switch.
I actually find it funny that the people complaining about Armored Core's graphics seem to be running into the reality of AAA development in a way that they probably haven't before. AAA games, with rare exceptions, will always be made for the mass market and target as much of the market as possible. That was always going to hit graphical quality at some point. Crysis was insane, but you need a particularly passionate development studio able to do their own thing to get a Crysis.
I got into BG3, because I love Divinity 2, and then I found out it was going to be D&D based and then I was SOLD! (cause I LOVE D&D) Never played the original BG games. I think Cohh is accurate that it is the cRPG community, BG community, Larian community, D&D community --> they are all here! So it's quite a cross section of groups coming together, it's super interesting and it's been a really good community. I think it may also get some new gamers into it, who may have always wanted to try D&D but could never find a group to play with, a single player video game can make D&D more approachable if you are already a gamer.
Battlebit shows that people don’t care about the name of the engine or how “good” it looks. They care about great gameplay.
AC6 looks great enough. I’m excited by the gameplay.
I am glad that FF XIV gang is finally coming to Latin America and Xbox!
cohh keeps making this plot of d4 devs being sent to the wolves, the people on the stream were the game directors and the lead community manager, it's literally the people who made the choices and the person whose job it is to talk to the community on behalf of the dev team.
Let's not act like most of the people on that stage saying "they feel sorry" haven't had a successful game since diablo / diablo 2, and chris wilson was making public apologies less then a year ago because of how they decided some league directions should go and everyone was shouting hate at him, i don't know in what world these people need to "feel sorry" and have learned anything, rose tinted glasses for people who did a amazing job 20 years ago.
Brian Stelter's only 37.
That sound mystery was just fun and yes I heard it too. :D
I didn’t know Anthony Mackie was the main! I don’t think he made anything that’s bad. If it has a bad story he’s the best part about it. I’m watching it tonight!
31:55 -- JP has the weirdest hang ups.
You guys are nuts, BG3 will review extremely well. Dos2 reviewed really well, Metacritic was 93 for it.
It’s just that there’s going to be an influx of haters because of all the positivity and you know how some journalist gamers are. I’ve seen huge amounts of hate about the bear scene and Steam had several negative reviews solely because of it and they only had 1-3hrs played. It’s like the elden ring hate when it was hyped. I really hope the BG3 community prevails though.
JP...having POE 1 and 2 exist at the same time with POE 1 still having mechanics that are "bad"isn't that strange a thing. Think of it Like WOW retail and WOW Classic both can exist and Both can have things in them that are Now considered "Bad" but because they are the way people are used to dealing with and would actively get mad at the devs if they "Fixed" or Changed them its not that strange at all.
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I didnt hear a single sound on any of these occasions when people in chat claimed there was a noise. I suspect shenanigans.
Luckily for you, your audio system/headphones/whatever must not have been able to pick it up. It is very obvious and distracting for me. Why you would suggest shenanigans is just silly.
@@millersj Maybe my audio equipment is just too plebian. I'll invest in some gold-plated cables and clean electricity.
It sounds like someone is hitting a mic or banging on the desk. it is not cool and it happens very often in this show. very deep bass sound.
@@millersj I don't know what to believe anymore.
Okay, did something change with Zeke's lighting? Because it frequently looks like his face is disappearing into his shirt lol
I'm sure that's nothing new, but once that thought came into my head I just couldn't stop seeing it. The beard just blends in with a black shirt too well.
You don't need to have played it to know whether it's filler. You said it yourself, it's a new arc. By the very definition of the word, filler is something to temporarily hold space, as opposed to laying the foundation for something new. Dunno what's not clicking. Guess the bit needed commitment.
It’s not bad to be skeptical.. even them saying it’s a new arc isn’t true until we see it. If you think otherwise you have more faith in the industry than many.
i just wanna know why its always fromsoftware games people wanna bitch about, its always something.
How Cohh took 1 hour and 30 minutes to beat the first episode of the telltale expanse is beyond me when most people even people that 100% read every and took their time still beat it in under an hour. I've seen people rush it in 20 mins.
did he do it on stream? that adds time. he also has children, which adds time to everything that you can't always factor in. pausing the game and such
Playlist is 1 hr and 27 minutes long. So wether it's beyond you or not, it is what it is. I suppose you can remove 10 minutes from that for pre and post talk maybe if he kept that in the vods.
Peace
50% of the show is JP hearing imaginary sounds in his $10,000 headset lol
In high school for a show my lab group built a high energy radio frequency gun. We nuked (voluntarily) personal electronics like wrist watches and used mobile phones, but it also did a wonderful job on cars with annoying high bass stereos with amps etc.
i think you misspelled awkward, i think meant cool
god stop hitting the mic whoever is doing that
ff14 new arc beginning is 6.1..
pc players shouldnt complain about armored core 6, modders will make our version look great, like previous dark souls games.
PC gamers want Ghosts, Demon's Souls and Bloodborne and Sony keeps releasing games we don't care about from their catalogue except those 3.
Sony needs to start releasing exclusives on PC day one or maybe even one month later.
And hopefully stop the double dip or try to convince players to buy a console for an exclusive game that will not be exclusive in one to two years.
18:00 Imagine giving a shit about graphics in 2023. The game looks great and that's the least important thing about it.
First? :O I love Cohh
Cohh is so fake and superficial it's laughable. He creates milquetoast content that appeals broadly. That's great for him and those that like mindless nonsense.
I think Armored Core 6 looks great.
I also think that 3 years into the life cycle of current gen consoles is long enough for last gen systems to no longer be the design benchmark. Consumers didn’t purchase a PS5/XSX just to continue playing new PS4/XBONE games. And AC6 is fundamentally a PS4/XBONE game in 2023. I totally understand the pushback even if it doesn’t bother me personally in this case.
Yeah there’s just so many more last gen owners rather than next gen, it’s just one way to do things.
Closed beta in 2024 🤣🤡
Lmao Why do Pc players think they should get cheaper games? It's two years old on Ps5 not pc.
two dyes per armor peices now? holy shit! you know? like every fuckign MMO has been doing the last 30 years. lol Little late to the party eh FF14? lol
"Like every fuckign MMO"? Meanwhile World of Warcraft doesn't even have a functioning dye system.
@@Xann7istakensome people really look for any excuse to shit on a game even if that means making one up