I really dont understand why every streamer doesnt do the zeke/thor approach to ads. You do your stream for 45-60 minutes. you take a short 1-2 min break and pause the game/stream to go to the bathroom or stand up walk around a bit and then you go back. This to me seems to be the most obvious and convenient way to do this for everyone? And yes, pre-rolls 100% are a major factor for me not wanting to tune into people I am not subscribed to.
It's also good for your health because it gives you the opportunity to get up and stretch your legs. If you don't, if you're sitting in the same position for hours, you run the risk of forming a blood clot in your legs that then travels back up and gets stuck in a lung, and suddenly you've got a 25% chance of dying in a few hours from a pulmonary embolism.
I am a UA-cam watcher. I have UA-cam premium. When I tune into twitch preroll ads literally cause me to switch off of twitch. Not just the streamer, I switch off the platform. I don't feel like buying twitch prime as I don't use the webpage enough to upgrade. I don't use the webpage because of pre roll ads.
Funny... and true. At least for the top IT people, the ones that actually keep the internet from imploding due to sheer mass. I was told that at least 8 out of 10 of the top tier IT professionals show up to furry conventions with a brand new costume
I Must say EZEKIEL III is such a great Co-Host. Too many co-hosts of other shows have to interrupt to add meaningless additions just to feel like they are part of the show. Zeke adds great content when he does speak, but know when it is better just to listen to the guests and enjoy.
What a kind thing to say, I appreciate it. I do actually try to be the best co-host I can be, and if that means shutting up and letting others talk, that's what I try to do. So, I'm glad you noticed. :)
@@Ezekieliii So next weeks episode it will be new PoE league Dropped Frames, I love that you just sit there and like to see JP and Cohh just geeking out. BTW PirateSoftware just got a new follower, love this show guys
I used to work at a museum and we had a huge training day where we watched all of these videos about never letting anyone in to sensitive areas without a badge and all that stuff. I few weeks later they had a moving company come in and take a bunch of stuff out of the archives and didn't issue any of them badges. That's when I realized that all of that training means nothing if no one cares.
I know Pirate Software was mentioned in previous shows, but it never spurred me to look him up. He was amazing, this show was amazing, I loved it, he needs to come back! Thank you!
Man I love the way Thor views life in general, it has to be a huge part of the reason he is successful. Besides his voice, Thor I need you to read every book for me and record, thanks in advance. Amazing guest, definitely need a show with him and Rami.
I was one of the Techs out in the field, fixing computers for my company and everyone in my Org was super appreciative of our work. I also work for a Large local company (25K+ employees), but they handle it well for the amount we had to fix.
Having an actual expert here really shows how quickly cohh jumps to conclusions and presents himself as 100% sure. So many times cohh just gives a kneejerk answer to something only for Thor to correct him.
Yeah i kinda expect that from streamers. They have this thing about wanting to be right and know wverything so their chat adores them. But most time they are just talking out their ass or parroting shit they heard. I work in IT and was not affected by it. But it was amazing how many outlier people in my company ( web designers and shit) were fucking experts on this when they have close to base level knowledge on any of it.
When Thor was talking about the guy trying to setup a Stingray and was like "oh yeah that do it yourself thing" 😂 I assume he was thinking of a Raspberry Pi
0:20 JP yells at his team of editors working backstage to bring us this glorious intro. The rumour is that several people from different departments of the JPNews squad got fired for this livestream incident that happend in front of millions of people!
The lore for Pirate Software goes deeper than any Tolkien character. I've been watching him for months now and still learning about the insane stuff he's been involved with. Like how his dad is the inspiration for the villain in the South Park WoW episode, or that the Twitter account for the TV show Mr Robot stole from his writeup and tweeted it. Dude's like a 40k character. His involvement can be traced back for thousands of years in lots of different mediums! EDIT: corrected the Mr. Robot writeup. They didn't put it in the show, but put it in a tweet.
@@brilobox2he's been streaming for closer to a decade than not. When all his stories involve information that can be checked, he would've been checked years ago if that was the case
40:00 as someone who is an HVAC tech, as well as someone who does events at fairs, Thor is 100% correct about being confident and just ignoring the people in charge. The amount of places I’ve gotten by carrying a ladder wearing coveralls, or just walking in like you are part of stuff, it’s great
I'm a truck driver and while I do deliver really big expensive stuff that normal truck drivers aren't allowed to touch Not a single person question me while I walked around a nuclear power plant with a clipboard in my hand waiting to get loaded
@@coywolfproductions7056 a clipboard is magic. People see the clipboard and immediately assume you're doing something and don't ask. I used the clipboard method to avoid working when I was tired just needed a good half hour of walking around not doing anything.
Thor: "So it's complicated, we don't know who's at fault" Cohh: "But... Is it Microsoft?" Thor: "We don't know, it's complicated" Cohh: "But could it be microsoft?" Thor: "We don't know" Cohh: "...so it's microsoft?" Like c'mon, dude
I want an entire dropped frames where it's just Thor and the dropped frames cast talking about random computer crap and experiences 500 plus likes... 😮
When Thor said that his knowledge refined his paranoia in the right way, that's probably the best way I've heard it explained. I've been a locksmith since i was a kid, having an uncle of whom was a locksmith, and i got into that asap because i was also into Csec. Started watching defcon talks etc, its natural to do so. But i have to say that while it certainly is easy to go down the hole of excessive paranoia, knowing that no lock is safe, theres nothing i can do to genuinely secure anything in my home or that i want safe, and a determined person can easily walk into any building with minimal effort, even without picking anything, usually with nothing mkre than a coke bottle or something to slip a latch. I've broken into my own apartment drunk, using a stick, and a BBQ scraper I found in a hard waste pile down the road that i filed down using the curb into a rake/bump key and managed to get through 3 doors. And it was even easier knowing that being an apartment, they are masterkeyed. Meaning more top pins = easier to pick. (Basically) Friends ive taught see the minimal potential and risks and freak the f out because all of a sudden, their safe is vulnerable to a hard whack of your hand on the top of the safe, or a magnet. But when you fully understand, you know that the odds of someone who knows how to pick locks properly, and targeting you, unless you had some sort of social media presence or reason to do so, is so unlikely its nearly a non issue. Doesnt change the fact that someone could walk into your house with no sound in half a second at a moments notice. But it does demonstrate that the likelihood of that happening is miniscule. Its the same with Csec. As long as youre a nobody, theres really not too much to be concerned with regarding being targeted. Mass spread malware is a different story, but being targeted is so unlikely it's just an absurd concept to worry about as a person of the general populous. (Not getting into if you work for a large corporation and have some level of access etc.) However. It does open your eyes to the security vulnerabilities around you. Wifi passwords unchanged from the sticker on the router, lock latches that have been filed out so large on doors for ease of use, that the safety pin for slipping no longer functions correctly and can be slipped. Or even in one case i observed while having my child, which resulted in a red team job, a hospital, spesifically a birthing suite with children, that had no secure locks, could all be slipped, alarms disabled because of prior complications, and sticky notes on computer monitors and folders with all the usernames and passwords for their software and the medical details of anyone in the country, available and freely accessable at a desk that was unattended all night. And since i was there awaiting the birth of my child, i poked around. The ability to write my own prescriptions, the details of anyone in the country all available. Just because one person leaves their passwords on a sticky note at their desk, is concerning. But its something that can be fixed. And as he said, theres far more of us (white/red hats etc.) Than there are of them. So yeah, the paranoia is real. But it also becomes realistic with the increase of knowledge. And that's whats important. If you learn just a little lock picking or how to use a bump key and go off half cocked, its easy to go off the deep end. But the more you know, the less its really a problem because you know the realistic limits too. Well put.
Someone needs to teach Cohh how to shut off his phone or at the very least put it on vibrate / silent. Nothings more incredibly rude to a guest that is speaking than having to hear a damn phone go off constantly.
@@rrubyrred It's OK, you don't need to defend him. He's not going to notice you. I swear these weirdos coming out of their cult closets to defend their strimmer is nutty. Go ahead Ben and Hurry back into your hole. 🤣
i love cohh but when an expert (thor) is explaining the crowdstrike situation and cohh nonstop interupting him and keep blaming windows and not actually listening to thors answer of waiting for more information is annoying.. then anytime zeke chimes in cohh talks louder.. i get being excited but cmon.
What are the odds you commented on this video, you were the first person I ever backed on Patreon during your Escapist playthroughs. A prisoner was even named after me.
I for one welcome our new Dropframes Overlord, PirateSoftware! Fantastic episode, would be awesome to have Thor back again. (Also RIP Russell, they did him dirty with that name in comparison lol)
Best guest they have ever had. Pirate was like a man coming down from a higher league in comparison to our normal hosts andowned the whole show more than any other and would love for him to come back on. Cohh needs to let the others speak and let them even have a shot at speaking. More so than any other episode cohh tried continuously to not only talk over jp and zekk but to take space from the guest
It’s not a crowd strike that worries me about human body technologies integration. My great aunt had cochlear implants. They stopped supporting the version she had and needed to buy new ones so she could continue hearing. So one day you could have some tech wired into your brain and the company behind it could just stop its support.
Fascinating episode! I usually put these on the background, but I was actually just watching the podcast the entire time. Hopefully he becomes a recurring guest--when the schedule permits of course.
1:45:25 Was so nice to see Thors patient but steadfast rebuttal to Cohh in this exchange. Cohh keeps making assumptions, clearly wanting a reason to blame Microsoft without any solid evidence (at least at the time) of who was actually at fault. I'm sure it was partly a bit to keep things entertaining, but unfortunately this is also how a LOT of people think and make decisions. So it is always good to see someone push back and try and force people to think logically and to hold back on blame and accusations when the evidence isn't there. 1:48:43 Once again, Cohh is making assumptions here that we don't have the evidence to say is true or not. For all we know Microsoft had an internal system that warned Crowdstrike of an upcoming change that somehow got lost in Crowdstrike's internal operating procedures. In which case it wouldn't be on MS at all since they had done due diligence in warning their enterprise partners (assuming this is a thing), ahead of time. It is all what-ifs at the stage this was recorded (I have not kept up with anything so have no idea if anything has changed since, so just going by what was known at the time). So, once again, it's so refreshing and incredibly important for people to take Thors advice and not jump to conclusions before all the information is available. What you think you might know is almost never the whole story.
It's so awesome to see Thor here, but also very odd! Thor's one of the most organized, focused, incredibly well-put-together streamer/YTuber I know. And now he's on a podcast with these numnuts. Ver funny.
I kept wanting them to mention it could be the other way around. If Windows did push an update, Crowd Strike should have had a check in place to make sure the update was working on a tested update release Plus, most corporations don't allow windows updates to auto run, so some of those machines shouldn't have gotten any windows updates.
@@Linkman8912 🤷♂when I was writing this response I was on the UA-cam phone app, so it probably put my comment on the wrong thread. I was agreeing with somebody who posted about their crowd strike comments.
Yeah Cohh seems like a know it all ass. But that is pretty much every streamer. They deal with just a little bit of tech and think they are experts. I work in IT and i still wont claim i know what the fuck happened. Just how to fix it. Which is my job. Fixing it.
15:19 Guest: Let me tell you my sweat-tear-and-grit-drenched success story. Cohh: Omg gurl, I did the same thing TEN YEARS AGO! Then let me tell you more about me! I’m sorry, that was just such a tone-deaf comment in an otherwise incredible show.
Ikr. I watch cohh daily but this one had me cringe. I think/I hope it was just the excitement cohh was feeling, that he burst out with words b4 thinking them through.. like he just meant to say 'I did that too! we both had the same awesome idea'.. I hope
Almost put me off this episode not gonna lie. I absolutely love what PirateSoftware does and he is so fascinating to listen to but Cohh almost made me skip this one.
On the mobile game ads aspect, the one I really like and/or respect is the bonus ads. "If you watch that ad, then we'll double your earning for that level!", that's the best way I've seen, most of the time I do it!
Top 5 favorite episodes without a doubt! Thor is so knowledgeable and he does an excellent job to share it with the viewers. Of course I always enjoy the funny bits with Jp, Zeke and Cohh their synergy is enjoyable.
Shout out to ZEKE! The Spider Robinson shoutout might have been a mistake but hell ya on the Callahan's series! Going to smash a glass in the hearth for you mate!
I want the Thor and Rami crossover, and I want it now Bonus points if you also get Josh Strife Hayes in there, little different field, but perfect person for those two to bounce off of
1:13:00 Absolutely. The more you know, the more accurate your assessment of risks and hazards. You become paranoid in the right way, and you can take reasonable steps to manage the risks and hazards.
I hope you bring Thor back in a future episode(s), because the chemistry between you four is awesome! Also glad I finally get to see Thor and Cohh interact!
TTP is a real thing. I worked on terrain in a game, I implemented snow displacement, and while I was showing it to the team one guy said "you know the first thing players are gonna do with this, right?" And the artist who was testing it started to giggle uncontrollably. He was halfway to drawing a 30ft dick in the the snow. TTP from implementation was like 10 minutes.
This interview really shows how much JP asks excellent questions, Thor has the best answers possible, Ezekiel knows when to sit back and let someone talk, and Cohh will not. Shut. Up...
Man what an incredible discussion. I feel like Thor just lit a fire in Dropped Frames and everyone was here for it. Excited to catch up and watch the next one!
BTW, the Dave's Garage youtube channel has a cool short video that exactly explains how this update broke windows (and points out some glaring issues with the crowdstrike software)
I'm a Windows engineer for a major bank. Luckily, I was on vacation in Germany from the US and by the time I flew home, my team had everything fixed lol.
Crowdstike is security professionals fault also. They are the one who insisted you need kernel level access to keep things safe. This was ALWAYS going to happen.
Great show overall, didn't know who Pirate Software was and he's SUPER interesting and an awesome guest! Love to see him on again. Was there some lag in the call? I noticed that Zeke especially kept getting cut off during this episode.
I've watched all DF episodes, but I must admit this one was really something special. The chemistry was there, the subjects were interesting (as always), Thor brought a more technical viewpoint and overall I just felt like you guys had a ton of fun, which always feels great from a viewer PoV :) Please have him on again eventually!
Thor would make an incredible teacher, but apparently his discord already does that better than any school, and he gets more pay than any teacher, which isn't a high bar. At all. My dad had to quit so we wouldn't go hungry.
2:21:05 My advice based on how I was raised in the early 2000s: Don't give them access to touch screens first, give them controllers, TV remotes, mouse and keyboard. Don't give them touch screens right away, wait a few years, also don't give them smartphones until high school (I was raised this way and I think it worked out better because I was more engaged with my life as a kid)
I spent decades playing video games without ever using a controller (well, there was a short episode of Super Mario World on the SNES), so I don't think controllers are absolutely necessary. But yes, motivate kids to do things with their hands like old-fashioned crafts.
One of the best and scary examples of social engineering has been done by Marvin Wildhage a german youtuber. His mission was to get into this years opening ceremony of the EM (Football / Soccer Europe Cup). He cloned badges from instagram that influencers posted weeks before that. He used the same car as the DFB and put the same stickers on so it look identical. And with a bit of smalltalk with the security guards he got in. Like literally everyone with ill intentions and a bit of trickery could have gotten in there
Like many people have said, this was an amazing episode. I really enjoy the Rami episodes aaaand so having them both on one podcast episode somewhere.... That'd be awesome.
It's fine when Cohh interrupted Zeke a few times, it happens to anyone, but here it happened like 50 times!! Poor Zeke just gave up close to the end. Anytime he tried to join in, Cohh shouted over him like he wasn't even there. Disrespectful af...
They are friends zeke knows cohh doesn't do it maliciously and its aware that if he needs to he can tell him to shut up Yes cohh was overly excited this episode and zeke let his bro have a good time I fully understand not enjoying it, but "poor zeke and disrespectful" is a bit much
@@a3-radio Idk, did you see his face when he got interrupted over and over? Sometimes its hard to put a feet down for yourself, especially when youre in the middle of a live show and dont want to ruin the vibe and the discussion. It would be fine if Cohh would go "Sorry Zeke, I spoke over you, please, what did you want to say?" as JP does a lot of the times, because he knows the feeling of not being heard. But hey, I might just be projecting.
I also used to wonder why someone would be brazen enough to post about pirate software. But his content kept popping up in my feeds AND they were always very wise, including how to block cheats. So I subscribed😂🎉
I've just discovered this show with this episode and I was seriously enjoying it. Then Ezekiel made a Spider Robinson reference and I was immediately "subscribe"
Thor is such a reasonable and intelligent voice in the increasingly more technological world. Both in data security and gaming and honesty life in general. And now through him I found these guys
I really dont understand why every streamer doesnt do the zeke/thor approach to ads. You do your stream for 45-60 minutes. you take a short 1-2 min break and pause the game/stream to go to the bathroom or stand up walk around a bit and then you go back. This to me seems to be the most obvious and convenient way to do this for everyone?
And yes, pre-rolls 100% are a major factor for me not wanting to tune into people I am not subscribed to.
Yeah my favorite streamer does that too, they take a like 3 minute ad break every hour.
I understand a lot of viewers switch off during downtime.
Thor just probably doesn't give a s**t
It's also good for your health because it gives you the opportunity to get up and stretch your legs. If you don't, if you're sitting in the same position for hours, you run the risk of forming a blood clot in your legs that then travels back up and gets stuck in a lung, and suddenly you've got a 25% chance of dying in a few hours from a pulmonary embolism.
I am a UA-cam watcher. I have UA-cam premium. When I tune into twitch preroll ads literally cause me to switch off of twitch. Not just the streamer, I switch off the platform.
I don't feel like buying twitch prime as I don't use the webpage enough to upgrade. I don't use the webpage because of pre roll ads.
@@julian5956 I will never watch streamers with pre ads. like wtf i'm not even watching you and ur making money of me fuck them
I love how patient PirateSoftware is with everyone.
QA teaches patience outside of work alright.
It's probably easier too knowing that everyone on the podcast respects his opinion and is genuinely there to listen.
He’s a saint
@@counterstrikelord especially when copystriking criticism and vilifying Ross Scott.
@@admiraltonydawning3847Proof?
"There's no furry convention happening at the moment so the IT people are available".
That caught me as a laugh out loud moment. Brilliant one Thor
Fur cons scare me
One bad thing happens and our Internet and way of life is over
Funny... and true. At least for the top IT people, the ones that actually keep the internet from imploding due to sheer mass. I was told that at least 8 out of 10 of the top tier IT professionals show up to furry conventions with a brand new costume
I Must say EZEKIEL III is such a great Co-Host. Too many co-hosts of other shows have to interrupt to add meaningless additions just to feel like they are part of the show. Zeke adds great content when he does speak, but know when it is better just to listen to the guests and enjoy.
What a kind thing to say, I appreciate it. I do actually try to be the best co-host I can be, and if that means shutting up and letting others talk, that's what I try to do. So, I'm glad you noticed. :)
Nice try Zeke, we know this is your alt account 😏
@@Ezekieliii So next weeks episode it will be new PoE league Dropped Frames, I love that you just sit there and like to see JP and Cohh just geeking out.
BTW PirateSoftware just got a new follower, love this show guys
Hell yeah, sibling
@@Ezekieliii you are doing great
i stil watching but the part with this is to elementary for me got me so hard
love you man
I used to work at a museum and we had a huge training day where we watched all of these videos about never letting anyone in to sensitive areas without a badge and all that stuff. I few weeks later they had a moving company come in and take a bunch of stuff out of the archives and didn't issue any of them badges. That's when I realized that all of that training means nothing if no one cares.
I know Pirate Software was mentioned in previous shows, but it never spurred me to look him up. He was amazing, this show was amazing, I loved it, he needs to come back!
Thank you!
He has
Cohh: The answer is this.
Thor: Actually....
Man I love the way Thor views life in general, it has to be a huge part of the reason he is successful. Besides his voice, Thor I need you to read every book for me and record, thanks in advance. Amazing guest, definitely need a show with him and Rami.
This has by far been my favorite show. Pirate was so very informative and entertaining. Pirate and Rami both need to be on the same show. Do it.
I was one of the Techs out in the field, fixing computers for my company and everyone in my Org was super appreciative of our work. I also work for a Large local company (25K+ employees), but they handle it well for the amount we had to fix.
Are you a fury though?
Having an actual expert here really shows how quickly cohh jumps to conclusions and presents himself as 100% sure. So many times cohh just gives a kneejerk answer to something only for Thor to correct him.
Same with JP
Yeah i kinda expect that from streamers. They have this thing about wanting to be right and know wverything so their chat adores them. But most time they are just talking out their ass or parroting shit they heard. I work in IT and was not affected by it. But it was amazing how many outlier people in my company ( web designers and shit) were fucking experts on this when they have close to base level knowledge on any of it.
When Thor was talking about the guy trying to setup a Stingray and was like "oh yeah that do it yourself thing" 😂
I assume he was thinking of a Raspberry Pi
Yeah, big egos can't handle no longer being the smartest person in the room
0:20 JP yells at his team of editors working backstage to bring us this glorious intro. The rumour is that several people from different departments of the JPNews squad got fired for this livestream incident that happend in front of millions of people!
I think you mean they where put in front of a firing squad.
@@iGMAS true xd
Never to be seen or heard from again…
@@alecciapara4609 According to my inside sources, I was told their bodies were stuffed into human cannons and fired into the expanse. 🎉🎉🎉
@@dennisfxdI am going to choose to believe that these ‘human cannons’ are made 100% out of human body parts-
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The lore for Pirate Software goes deeper than any Tolkien character. I've been watching him for months now and still learning about the insane stuff he's been involved with. Like how his dad is the inspiration for the villain in the South Park WoW episode, or that the Twitter account for the TV show Mr Robot stole from his writeup and tweeted it. Dude's like a 40k character. His involvement can be traced back for thousands of years in lots of different mediums!
EDIT: corrected the Mr. Robot writeup. They didn't put it in the show, but put it in a tweet.
Give it a few years until it comes out most of those stories aren’t true.
@@brilobox2 give it a few years, and you might have grown up as well
@@brilobox2 Give it a few years and you might realise that people are allowed to be interesting
THAT'S WHERE I KNOW HIM FROM!!!! I remember that clip when he explains his dad is Dildo Schwaggins 😂😂😂 (was it dildo, or the other guy? Now idr..😂)
@@brilobox2he's been streaming for closer to a decade than not. When all his stories involve information that can be checked, he would've been checked years ago if that was the case
40:00 as someone who is an HVAC tech, as well as someone who does events at fairs, Thor is 100% correct about being confident and just ignoring the people in charge. The amount of places I’ve gotten by carrying a ladder wearing coveralls, or just walking in like you are part of stuff, it’s great
I'm a truck driver and while I do deliver really big expensive stuff that normal truck drivers aren't allowed to touch
Not a single person question me while I walked around a nuclear power plant with a clipboard in my hand waiting to get loaded
And that was it just a single clipboard and me and a pair of overalls and a cowboy hat
@@coywolfproductions7056 a clipboard is magic. People see the clipboard and immediately assume you're doing something and don't ask.
I used the clipboard method to avoid working when I was tired just needed a good half hour of walking around not doing anything.
I do this at the movies with no ticket 😂
@@coywolfproductions7056after you got through security at the gate?
Thor: "So it's complicated, we don't know who's at fault"
Cohh: "But... Is it Microsoft?"
Thor: "We don't know, it's complicated"
Cohh: "But could it be microsoft?"
Thor: "We don't know"
Cohh: "...so it's microsoft?"
Like c'mon, dude
I want an entire dropped frames where it's just Thor and the dropped frames cast talking about random computer crap and experiences
500 plus likes... 😮
Make it its very own series. I'd immediately subscribe
Yes please, story time and good vibes please!!!
You might be able to get something similar when Thor and ThePrimeagen finally start their podcast.
yes please
Protect our ‘puters?
love how when piratesoftware is explaining something and they try to cut him off to tell a joke he ignores them and keep talking
We need 4 more hours of this. Top 10 episodes. Thank you!
When Thor said that his knowledge refined his paranoia in the right way, that's probably the best way I've heard it explained.
I've been a locksmith since i was a kid, having an uncle of whom was a locksmith, and i got into that asap because i was also into Csec. Started watching defcon talks etc, its natural to do so.
But i have to say that while it certainly is easy to go down the hole of excessive paranoia, knowing that no lock is safe, theres nothing i can do to genuinely secure anything in my home or that i want safe, and a determined person can easily walk into any building with minimal effort, even without picking anything, usually with nothing mkre than a coke bottle or something to slip a latch.
I've broken into my own apartment drunk, using a stick, and a BBQ scraper I found in a hard waste pile down the road that i filed down using the curb into a rake/bump key and managed to get through 3 doors. And it was even easier knowing that being an apartment, they are masterkeyed. Meaning more top pins = easier to pick. (Basically)
Friends ive taught see the minimal potential and risks and freak the f out because all of a sudden, their safe is vulnerable to a hard whack of your hand on the top of the safe, or a magnet. But when you fully understand, you know that the odds of someone who knows how to pick locks properly, and targeting you, unless you had some sort of social media presence or reason to do so, is so unlikely its nearly a non issue.
Doesnt change the fact that someone could walk into your house with no sound in half a second at a moments notice. But it does demonstrate that the likelihood of that happening is miniscule.
Its the same with Csec. As long as youre a nobody, theres really not too much to be concerned with regarding being targeted. Mass spread malware is a different story, but being targeted is so unlikely it's just an absurd concept to worry about as a person of the general populous. (Not getting into if you work for a large corporation and have some level of access etc.)
However. It does open your eyes to the security vulnerabilities around you. Wifi passwords unchanged from the sticker on the router, lock latches that have been filed out so large on doors for ease of use, that the safety pin for slipping no longer functions correctly and can be slipped. Or even in one case i observed while having my child, which resulted in a red team job, a hospital, spesifically a birthing suite with children, that had no secure locks, could all be slipped, alarms disabled because of prior complications, and sticky notes on computer monitors and folders with all the usernames and passwords for their software and the medical details of anyone in the country, available and freely accessable at a desk that was unattended all night. And since i was there awaiting the birth of my child, i poked around. The ability to write my own prescriptions, the details of anyone in the country all available. Just because one person leaves their passwords on a sticky note at their desk, is concerning.
But its something that can be fixed. And as he said, theres far more of us (white/red hats etc.) Than there are of them.
So yeah, the paranoia is real. But it also becomes realistic with the increase of knowledge. And that's whats important. If you learn just a little lock picking or how to use a bump key and go off half cocked, its easy to go off the deep end. But the more you know, the less its really a problem because you know the realistic limits too.
Well put.
I love showing friends how secure a masterlock isn't. 😂😂😂
Someone needs to teach Cohh how to shut off his phone or at the very least put it on vibrate / silent. Nothings more incredibly rude to a guest that is speaking than having to hear a damn phone go off constantly.
Cry about it
@@rrubyrred It's OK, you don't need to defend him. He's not going to notice you. I swear these weirdos coming out of their cult closets to defend their strimmer is nutty. Go ahead Ben and Hurry back into your hole. 🤣
Cohh needs to learn something from Zeke: sometimes less is more. With that said, what an incredible guest. Looking forward to his return!
i love cohh but when an expert (thor) is explaining the crowdstrike situation and cohh nonstop interupting him and keep blaming windows and not actually listening to thors answer of waiting for more information is annoying.. then anytime zeke chimes in cohh talks louder.. i get being excited but cmon.
Cohn strikes me as textbook adhd. I have the same problem sometimes where my brain wants to get the info I have out now or it will forget it
@@tatara102188and your only half paying attention because your actively remembering that info rather than paying attention
What are the odds you commented on this video, you were the first person I ever backed on Patreon during your Escapist playthroughs. A prisoner was even named after me.
@@SuperGingerRob Something about GingerRob rings a bell =P nice to see we enjoy the same content!
I for one welcome our new Dropframes Overlord, PirateSoftware! Fantastic episode, would be awesome to have Thor back again.
(Also RIP Russell, they did him dirty with that name in comparison lol)
Man, i absolutely LOVE Zeke, how he goofs and how he is on board with everything. This episode of dropped frames was awesome
Thank you for saying.
Best guest they have ever had. Pirate was like a man coming down from a higher league in comparison to our normal hosts andowned the whole show more than any other and would love for him to come back on.
Cohh needs to let the others speak and let them even have a shot at speaking. More so than any other episode cohh tried continuously to not only talk over jp and zekk but to take space from the guest
It’s not a crowd strike that worries me about human body technologies integration. My great aunt had cochlear implants. They stopped supporting the version she had and needed to buy new ones so she could continue hearing. So one day you could have some tech wired into your brain and the company behind it could just stop its support.
People forget that the cyberpunk genre is already a reality for many disabled people.
That's awful dude, she should sue them, it's literally extortion!
I have cochlear implants too they cost alot and two sets could ruin life thats alot of money
piratesoftware looked and sounded like he'd been here and known you for years. Excellent chemistry, fantastic topics.
I have been a part of DF since the beginning, and Pirate is my absolute favourite guest. I was glued to the screen. Amazing
Fascinating episode! I usually put these on the background, but I was actually just watching the podcast the entire time. Hopefully he becomes a recurring guest--when the schedule permits of course.
1:45:25
Was so nice to see Thors patient but steadfast rebuttal to Cohh in this exchange. Cohh keeps making assumptions, clearly wanting a reason to blame Microsoft without any solid evidence (at least at the time) of who was actually at fault. I'm sure it was partly a bit to keep things entertaining, but unfortunately this is also how a LOT of people think and make decisions. So it is always good to see someone push back and try and force people to think logically and to hold back on blame and accusations when the evidence isn't there.
1:48:43
Once again, Cohh is making assumptions here that we don't have the evidence to say is true or not. For all we know Microsoft had an internal system that warned Crowdstrike of an upcoming change that somehow got lost in Crowdstrike's internal operating procedures. In which case it wouldn't be on MS at all since they had done due diligence in warning their enterprise partners (assuming this is a thing), ahead of time. It is all what-ifs at the stage this was recorded (I have not kept up with anything so have no idea if anything has changed since, so just going by what was known at the time).
So, once again, it's so refreshing and incredibly important for people to take Thors advice and not jump to conclusions before all the information is available. What you think you might know is almost never the whole story.
Great to see Thor on Dropped Frames! Now let's hope he becomes a regular :)
this is by far the most entertaining episode iv seen so far, def need to bring him back again
Does Cohh have the rest of his co-hosts on mute?
i get that delays are a thing in video calls, but man Cohh really likes to interrupt people
It's so awesome to see Thor here, but also very odd! Thor's one of the most organized, focused, incredibly well-put-together streamer/YTuber I know. And now he's on a podcast with these numnuts. Ver funny.
-I've been developing the feeling that Cohh should be reminded than when on a group talk show, he doesn't need to fill the air space.
100% this
Yeah...
I thought I was the only one who thought that. I like the guy. I guess he just got overly excited but it's definitely super noticeable
True, it won't work tho. As a fellow person with ADHD it's nearly impossible to shut up at the best of times 😅
He's great at keeping the stream rolling when he's solo, probably just hard to turn that habit off.
1:45:59 when thor mentions hating armchair experts, sitting (virtually) across from one (cohh). He just keeps going on it
I kept wanting them to mention it could be the other way around. If Windows did push an update, Crowd Strike should have had a check in place to make sure the update was working on a tested update release
Plus, most corporations don't allow windows updates to auto run, so some of those machines shouldn't have gotten any windows updates.
@@GSpacmanvicewhy are you replying to this comment?
@@Linkman8912 🤷♂when I was writing this response I was on the UA-cam phone app, so it probably put my comment on the wrong thread. I was agreeing with somebody who posted about their crowd strike comments.
@@GSpacmanvice oh, I see. That happens to me all the time
Yeah Cohh seems like a know it all ass. But that is pretty much every streamer. They deal with just a little bit of tech and think they are experts. I work in IT and i still wont claim i know what the fuck happened. Just how to fix it. Which is my job. Fixing it.
I love that EVERYONE else loves the drawling just as much as Thor's chat does.
One of the best guests on this show and Coh interrupts him every 2 mins. Just let the guy talk.
15:19 Guest: Let me tell you my sweat-tear-and-grit-drenched success story.
Cohh: Omg gurl, I did the same thing TEN YEARS AGO! Then let me tell you more about me!
I’m sorry, that was just such a tone-deaf comment in an otherwise incredible show.
Ikr. I watch cohh daily but this one had me cringe.
I think/I hope it was just the excitement cohh was feeling, that he burst out with words b4 thinking them through.. like he just meant to say 'I did that too! we both had the same awesome idea'.. I hope
Almost put me off this episode not gonna lie.
I absolutely love what PirateSoftware does and he is so fascinating to listen to but Cohh almost made me skip this one.
thanks for the quick upload as always, could not catch it live today ❤🔥
On the mobile game ads aspect, the one I really like and/or respect is the bonus ads. "If you watch that ad, then we'll double your earning for that level!", that's the best way I've seen, most of the time I do it!
Top 5 favorite episodes without a doubt! Thor is so knowledgeable and he does an excellent job to share it with the viewers. Of course I always enjoy the funny bits with Jp, Zeke and Cohh their synergy is enjoyable.
This was a really interesting guest and you guys asked him a lot of good questions. Great episode.
Shout out to ZEKE! The Spider Robinson shoutout might have been a mistake but hell ya on the Callahan's series! Going to smash a glass in the hearth for you mate!
This might honestly be my favorite episode of DF ever
This was one of your best episodes in recent memory! We NEED more Thor and you!
I want the Thor and Rami crossover, and I want it now
Bonus points if you also get Josh Strife Hayes in there, little different field, but perfect person for those two to bounce off of
1:13:00 Absolutely. The more you know, the more accurate your assessment of risks and hazards. You become paranoid in the right way, and you can take reasonable steps to manage the risks and hazards.
Prevented entire power plants with a hundred hospitals on their load from being hacked, thats a pretty huge service bub.
It's a hell of a lot more service than military members provide.
I hope you bring Thor back in a future episode(s), because the chemistry between you four is awesome! Also glad I finally get to see Thor and Cohh interact!
always a treat to have the crew put out another great podcast. PiratwSoftware aka Thor an Rami would be a great sight to see.
Glad to see Thor seems to get Unions and is for them.
TTP is a real thing. I worked on terrain in a game, I implemented snow displacement, and while I was showing it to the team one guy said "you know the first thing players are gonna do with this, right?" And the artist who was testing it started to giggle uncontrollably. He was halfway to drawing a 30ft dick in the the snow. TTP from implementation was like 10 minutes.
As someone who watched the whole episode on twitch, this was great! So much info and good banter around.
This interview really shows how much JP asks excellent questions, Thor has the best answers possible, Ezekiel knows when to sit back and let someone talk, and Cohh will not. Shut. Up...
What a great guest. Something about the way he talks, he's so easy to listen to.
Man what an incredible discussion. I feel like Thor just lit a fire in Dropped Frames and everyone was here for it. Excited to catch up and watch the next one!
BTW, the Dave's Garage youtube channel has a cool short video that exactly explains how this update broke windows (and points out some glaring issues with the crowdstrike software)
This is great. I'm an old PC guy and listen to how the new kids roll is awesome.
Idk if im just slightly socially awkward which is fine, but Thor explaining socail contructs helped me personally a lot. Thank you!
I'm a Windows engineer for a major bank. Luckily, I was on vacation in Germany from the US and by the time I flew home, my team had everything fixed lol.
JFC this was the greatest DF episode ever. Just putting that out there.
I absolutely loved having Thor on. He should come on more often.
Crowdstike is security professionals fault also. They are the one who insisted you need kernel level access to keep things safe. This was ALWAYS going to happen.
4 good vibe streamers in one place makes my day!
I'm over 45 minutes in, and i think EVERY MOMENT of this has been split into about 45 youtube shorts. Thor is just that interesting to watch.
Jack black, Gimli and grown up Peter Dinklage got Thor to join their podcast. What a n intriguing fellowship.
*horse laugh
Man I have not watched JP since he dropped dnd, wish it hasn’t been so long. Really happy to see someone like Thor on dropped frames great content man
‘Wha- it froze. Is my video buffering? It says the video is playing…’
“HEY! WHY ARE YOU FROZEN!”
“Pfffff-“
Great show overall, didn't know who Pirate Software was and he's SUPER interesting and an awesome guest! Love to see him on again. Was there some lag in the call? I noticed that Zeke especially kept getting cut off during this episode.
ive been waiting for this colab for ages!
I've watched all DF episodes, but I must admit this one was really something special. The chemistry was there, the subjects were interesting (as always), Thor brought a more technical viewpoint and overall I just felt like you guys had a ton of fun, which always feels great from a viewer PoV :)
Please have him on again eventually!
Amazing guest! Even though I ended up with the feeling that I heard more of and about Cohh than the rest 3/4 of the people present.
Thor would make an incredible teacher, but apparently his discord already does that better than any school, and he gets more pay than any teacher, which isn't a high bar. At all. My dad had to quit so we wouldn't go hungry.
2:21:05 My advice based on how I was raised in the early 2000s: Don't give them access to touch screens first, give them controllers, TV remotes, mouse and keyboard. Don't give them touch screens right away, wait a few years, also don't give them smartphones until high school (I was raised this way and I think it worked out better because I was more engaged with my life as a kid)
I spent decades playing video games without ever using a controller (well, there was a short episode of Super Mario World on the SNES), so I don't think controllers are absolutely necessary. But yes, motivate kids to do things with their hands like old-fashioned crafts.
@@QuentinPlant this too!! OR even give ‘em the big tub of Lego
This is by far one of my fav Dropped Frames episode, so so good.
One of the best and scary examples of social engineering has been done by Marvin Wildhage a german youtuber. His mission was to get into this years opening ceremony of the EM (Football / Soccer Europe Cup). He cloned badges from instagram that influencers posted weeks before that. He used the same car as the DFB and put the same stickers on so it look identical. And with a bit of smalltalk with the security guards he got in. Like literally everyone with ill intentions and a bit of trickery could have gotten in there
Like many people have said, this was an amazing episode. I really enjoy the Rami episodes aaaand so having them both on one podcast episode somewhere.... That'd be awesome.
Tbh I prefer watching these on VOD since i cant cast twitch to my TV, popcorn is ready 🍿
Genuinely think I could have listened to you 4 talking for 8 hours and still been interested. Good job
Best dropped frames in a loooong time - Awesome stuff ! :)
Man this intro RANDOMLY made me remember the Co-optional podcast with Total Biscuit intro. Rip Biscuit.
Also great episode!
really enjoyed this ep, as always; woild love to see Thor on the show again! he fits the theme of DF perfectly
I need a compilation of all the bits where Thor is drawing stuff while talking.
1:47:53 we all know that any journalist will see that part and be all like "HA, they admited it was their fault, let's crucify them for it"
It's fine when Cohh interrupted Zeke a few times, it happens to anyone, but here it happened like 50 times!!
Poor Zeke just gave up close to the end. Anytime he tried to join in, Cohh shouted over him like he wasn't even there. Disrespectful af...
They are friends zeke knows cohh doesn't do it maliciously and its aware that if he needs to he can tell him to shut up
Yes cohh was overly excited this episode and zeke let his bro have a good time
I fully understand not enjoying it, but "poor zeke and disrespectful" is a bit much
@@a3-radio Idk, did you see his face when he got interrupted over and over?
Sometimes its hard to put a feet down for yourself, especially when youre in the middle of a live show and dont want to ruin the vibe and the discussion. It would be fine if Cohh would go "Sorry Zeke, I spoke over you, please, what did you want to say?" as JP does a lot of the times, because he knows the feeling of not being heard.
But hey, I might just be projecting.
@@The_MarTyNihit the nail on the head projecting
dude, the defcon stories from thor are nuts
Best guest spot hands down!!
the collab i didn't think we all needed.
One of the best guests Fr. Hopefully thor becomes a regular
Just finished watching this stream. Great conversation with good info dump, thanks!
I also used to wonder why someone would be brazen enough to post about pirate software. But his content kept popping up in my feeds AND they were always very wise, including how to block cheats. So I subscribed😂🎉
This episode is so fun thor is such a positive energy and made the boys more playful and eager
I came for Thor, and became a fan. Was an enjoyable experience so thank you for that!
Was gonna tune in for like 5 mins but ended watching whole stream.
Actually I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE an episode with Rami and Thor together!!
I've just discovered this show with this episode and I was seriously enjoying it. Then Ezekiel made a Spider Robinson reference and I was immediately "subscribe"
Thor is such a reasonable and intelligent voice in the increasingly more technological world. Both in data security and gaming and honesty life in general. And now through him I found these guys
Great episode. Rami S-tier level of guest in terms of interesting perspectives.
Best episode of the year.
2:24:25 PIRATE SOFTWARE brings up the beginning of the 5th world and shadowrun.