Coming from, I'm assuming, the official company UA-cam channel, wasn't actually expecting something that feels so homemade. Usually company owned channels are basically just glorified ads, but this feels just as passion filled as the community itself.
smaller company + they dont have to pander to shareholders seeing they aren't publicly traded. The second point is why steam is still relatively ethical, they aren't public
thats why I love this company so much. they even have their own forum they run with aftermarket cases/accessories for the 60he+ where they verified the module will fit in outside companies cases. definitely a sense of people that like gaming rather than money hungry corporations
I just finished a $450 wooting build 😅 I went with the gateron jades, they had a bit of spring ping so I took some time to hand lube them. The keyboard sounds absolutely incredible, it is the best keyboard for gaming I’ve ever built!
@@idiotizador2011 I went with pretty much everything from wooting since they give a discount if you buy parts from them 60he module, alumaze 60 case, gateron jades, and I did the detachable cable they have, pretty expensive but it is crazy good quality. I went with the higround black ice caps, just really like the topograph thing and they’re pretty decent. All I did was slap a layer of kilmat in the bottom, they have a license plate kilmat thing on amazon it’s 12x4 or something like that, just needed a bit of trimming. Also I lubed the switches. It’s a heavy keyboard, I really like the sound. It sounds very dense and heavy, super smooth switches with a dull clack at the bottom
I feel like the spacebar in comparison needs a bit more 'mass' so to speak, it sounds so hollow , will probably try to put some foam into it. But i'm glad that the lekker v2 seem to do pretty good. thanks!
Spacebar is always a difficult one to get perfect. But please let me know if you have done mods for it and how that went. Potentially want to make videos on modding that as well. :)
Wow, thanks for putting this test together. I'd never heard of the Geon RAW. I think I like them best, just a bit more than my Jades I have installed, but maybe not enough to buy more switches. BUT, maybe if I decide to get the 80. I'd have gotten that one instead of the 60 if it was an option at the time. Too bad you guys don't have a trade in deal. :D
The 80HE seems like a really compelling buy for those who don't want to bother with modding. You get all the performance packaged with a pretty decent stock sound.
The only thing I miss from mechanical keyboards are the switch compatibility. Now we have to research on reddit wooting compatible switches to be sure. Would be amazing if all brands use switches based on same compatiblity
Eh I would rather have different types of switches than never ending clones, It also dissuades people from mindlessly consuming the same switches with different color given more incompatibilities but thats just me.
Does or will the 60HE ever come with the Lekker V2 switches preinstalled? As I noticed on the Wooting website when buying a 60HE+, even if I click the module only option and pick the Lekker V2 switches to install myself. I cannot pick the ABS case as an option for the 60HE, only the Alumaze60. Yet somehow you can for the 80HE when selecting module only and even buy it individually, and all this is despite the fact that it isn't even out yet? And if you just buy the Lekker V2s with the full 60HE and instantly replace the V1s.... you don't get the discount on buying the V2s like you do when you select module only and have useless V1s for no reason if they're the same but worse.
To reduce the amount of SKU's. Else we also need to make a pre-built ISO, JIS and ANSI version. This is more of a check for us to see how much interest the case gathers. Same with the Zinc Alloy Raw.
Yes, I will do a sound test on those as well. Maybe a bit later than other reviewers. I am going to China for week now and should receive samples with me to bring back home. So in two weeks, I will have a sound test hopefully.
There is no performance difference other then the fact that Gateron Jade have a maximum of range of 3.5mm, instead of the 4.0 of the Lekker switches. Our keyboards auto calibrate to make sure you can accurately use the full range of both switches.
Hall Effects switches haven't come to that just yet. But I feel like in the coming year there will be more and more development on these kind of switches.
I have the sennheisers HD800S and I can hear everything since they are open headphones, THOC sound for me is important not only because I like it the most soundwise but because its quiet as well
@@Wooting Yeah I guess open backs are a thing but speaker gaming is questionable but even when I owned a pair I must've had mine turned up too high - P.S Make my 80he already please pre-ordered in July :)
@@Wooting Oh nice! Also I was wondering, is the initial actuation force the same as the jade pro? not sure what cN and gf means for the switches when i look the specifications
cN comes close to gram force. Just a little different. But overall it is the same as the original Jades and is in the middle between L45 and L60 switches. ^Sander
I have a zinc alloy on the way. I got ceramic keycaps to put on as well. Cant decide between the Black Knights and the RAWs. Possibly thinking of doing mix, the space bar and shift keys being the Black Knights and the rest being RAW. Help me decide internet!
What you say is pretty fair. Muting the stabilizers a bit with the black knights and the raws for the pure typing sound. Keep in mind RGB is hard to get through the Black Knights, so you must not care about that anyway if you choose them.
Only with the 80HE module you'd have to install the switches yourself. The rest are pre-assembled boards and already come with the Lekker V2 L60's installed.
Yes, they do. Our keyboards auto calibrates the entire range. Even though our UI is still showing 4.0mm max it is just representing the relative distance instead of actually mm's. The actuation point in wootility has 40 steps you can change. So 4.0mm switch with 40 steps is 0.1mm each step. The RAW HE's with 3.4mm still has 40 steps. So 0.1mm in the UI would be actually 0.085 for the Geon RAWs.
We won't be developing custom cases for the current Two HE as popularity is fairly low compared to the 60HE and 80HE. Since the Two HE is out for a bit now, we'd probably be thinking of making an upgraded full size version instead.
@@Wooting Thank you thats great to know! I know most of the keyboard community lives by the Lord of the mighty Thock but as someone that worked in a huge office for many MANY years I grew kind of allergic to keyboard clackity clack. I really can't stand it but I just love the functionality of the Wooting.
Not the Lekker v2s, no. Don't think it matters as a Wooting Two user though since I've got the Geon RAWS and they sound way better than both the Lekker v1s and v2s imo
@@Luke_ but didn't the 60HE and the Two HE use Lekker (v1) and therefore have the same connection? Why would the v2 then fit the 60HE and not the Two HE? Or am I confusing something?
@@amshermansen Okay, yeah, that what I was wondering! I was just confused, because the Two HE was never mentioned in the video, while the other models did get mentioned. So I wasn't sure if it was excluded specificly. Thank you!
Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knew what screws Wooting uses to mount the PCB to the case and if they can provide a link for me to purchase these from. Thank you!
You can reach out to social@wooting.io Perhaps we can supply replacement screws. It is a bit busy though, so it might take a bit of time till we get back to you.
Why does Wooting make me feel like I made a mistake ordering the Wooting TWO HE. I feel like all the focus is only on the 80HE at the moment. I love my keyboard but it was just thrown out there with no love lol
I get what you say. Two HE has been out for a little bit now so it had more advertising and material back then. Nowadays the 60HE and 80HE are newer and more popular and new so we make all the content for that to serve a larger audience. Also I have limited time to work on all kinds of content, unfortunately. :( That's why hopefully some other content creators could serve video's for that. :)
@@Wooting that is probably the case haha. And I just checked my order status now it says “Estimated Delivery 24 September - 07 October” it went down let’s gooo
Ooof, that space bar is just... terrible. But that's what modding is for, I guess. I do see what you mean about the RAW HE switches tho, they do generally sound great.
If you're scared of a 60% keyboard not having the extra keys, don't be. Function layers are easy to remember if you set them yourself, and the mod tap feature basically reataches the arrow keys back to the keyboard like magic. If you have to have the extra keys, the 80 is there though. If you're buying a Wooting for the rapid trigger functionality for your Valorant or CS games, the 60 is all you need.
Coming from, I'm assuming, the official company UA-cam channel, wasn't actually expecting something that feels so homemade. Usually company owned channels are basically just glorified ads, but this feels just as passion filled as the community itself.
Because they are normal guys that love what they do.
Other keyboard companies dosnt matter at all no matter what they would do or invent.
smaller company + they dont have to pander to shareholders seeing they aren't publicly traded. The second point is why steam is still relatively ethical, they aren't public
Sander is funny guy that's why
thats why I love this company so much. they even have their own forum they run with aftermarket cases/accessories for the 60he+ where they verified the module will fit in outside companies cases. definitely a sense of people that like gaming rather than money hungry corporations
All the teasing...
can't wait for my 80he
Lekker v2 and Raw HE are my favourites
I just finished a $450 wooting build 😅 I went with the gateron jades, they had a bit of spring ping so I took some time to hand lube them. The keyboard sounds absolutely incredible, it is the best keyboard for gaming I’ve ever built!
Could you share your build please ? I also want to build my own, but 80HE doesn't have too many option for customs.... So i'm looking at the 60HE+
@@idiotizador2011 I went with pretty much everything from wooting since they give a discount if you buy parts from them
60he module, alumaze 60 case, gateron jades, and I did the detachable cable they have, pretty expensive but it is crazy good quality. I went with the higround black ice caps, just really like the topograph thing and they’re pretty decent. All I did was slap a layer of kilmat in the bottom, they have a license plate kilmat thing on amazon it’s 12x4 or something like that, just needed a bit of trimming. Also I lubed the switches. It’s a heavy keyboard, I really like the sound. It sounds very dense and heavy, super smooth switches with a dull clack at the bottom
Thnx for the vid. It makes me check my hub everytime for hopefully a faster delivery time for my fouders 80HE zinq alloy 😀
Geon RAW HE + PCR ABS
A solid option I must agree.
Yes indeed
Best one gonna buy the module and pcr abs with those geon raw he!
Oh yes
How many switches should I order?
PCR ABS and GUGU holyyyyy
I feel like the spacebar in comparison needs a bit more 'mass' so to speak, it sounds so hollow , will probably try to put some foam into it. But i'm glad that the lekker v2 seem to do pretty good. thanks!
Spacebar is always a difficult one to get perfect. But please let me know if you have done mods for it and how that went. Potentially want to make videos on modding that as well. :)
I gonna have the same setup as Sander, Wooting 80 HE in Zinc Alloy White with Razer Deathadder V3 Pro. Looks Dope !!!
Nice setup. My endgame is the Viper V3 Pro with the Wooting 80HE black Zinc Alloy. God Bless ✝️❤️.
Nice! My set up is gonna be a black zinc 80he with the RVMSE
Wow, thanks for putting this test together. I'd never heard of the Geon RAW. I think I like them best, just a bit more than my Jades I have installed, but maybe not enough to buy more switches. BUT, maybe if I decide to get the 80. I'd have gotten that one instead of the 60 if it was an option at the time. Too bad you guys don't have a trade in deal. :D
lol
Finally can see the black Ghost option a bit better. So glad I went with that
Thanks Sander for making this video, made all of our research and testings from the server come to good use from the company itself. Much love ❤
Them geon raws sound delightful
The Gateron Jades sound great! RAW HEs come in close second for me.
GUGU Black Knights + Zinc Alloy
It has a thockier sound that doesn’t sound dampened
Really wish they’d make a thocc HE switch soon lol
The 80HE seems like a really compelling buy for those who don't want to bother with modding. You get all the performance packaged with a pretty decent stock sound.
I like the Zinc + RAW HE and the ABS + Lekker combinations.
Great Sound test, been a joy to watch! Although I’ll still stick to my 60HE :p
60HE is still a champ 🏆
YO WE NEEDED THIS
White Zinc looks mint.. cant wait to buld mine. I will roll Lekker V2 with Raptor HE spring and then hand lube them.
Wooting Clan Ain’t Nuthing ta F’ Wit
I have to say the Lekker V2s take the cake for me by far.
I think I'm more exited for early October (when my KB is coming) then I was for Christmas of last year
They all sound almost identical. Linear switches are linear switches. Lekker V2 is slightly more scratchy sounding though.
The Black Knight switches are from Grain Gold which is an amazing switch manufacturer
damn those gugu black knights. love em
for me lekker v2 is more then enough! especially in pcr case
Hopefully this week my 80HE will arrive.
Will you guys ever bring the raw zinc alloy pre assembled?
For zinc alloy I felt the black knights sounded the deepest and best but for the most pcr abs the lekker sounded the deepest and best to me
Worlds best mouse by WOOTING when?
Test out the TTC KOMs
Missed opportunity to test the sticky rice switches.
I replaced my lekker v1 with them, huge difference!
lmao what about the widespread issues with them tho? don’t think they’ve been addressed
@@BEAUTYSDOWNFALL tf are you talking about? I've had them for months without issues.
@@BEAUTYSDOWNFALLwhat issues do you mean wanted to buy. them?
@@BEAUTYSDOWNFALL yeah you don't know what you're talking about per usual with idiots spreading lies.
lol i exactly searched for a video like that and now you did one :D
Id love to see an "closed" bottom, but its actually a thin felt that's hit. Seems like it would help a lot with silence.
I will forward the feedback to the team! :D
Sounds interesting for sure.
What would be a good silent switch to use with the 80HE? I like as little sound as possible.
Glorious lynx silents. Though idk if there's compatibility for it
The RAWS OMGGG 🔥
They are sooo goood yeah!
I love the black knights but not the space bar😭
PCR ABS and Gugu are fucking amazing
Everything sounds great！
Are the ws dashes also compatible with the keyboard?
The only thing I miss from mechanical keyboards are the switch compatibility. Now we have to research on reddit wooting compatible switches to be sure. Would be amazing if all brands use switches based on same compatiblity
Eh I would rather have different types of switches than never ending clones, It also dissuades people from mindlessly consuming the same switches with different color given more incompatibilities but thats just me.
they're different types of switches with different features so..
Does or will the 60HE ever come with the Lekker V2 switches preinstalled? As I noticed on the Wooting website when buying a 60HE+, even if I click the module only option and pick the Lekker V2 switches to install myself. I cannot pick the ABS case as an option for the 60HE, only the Alumaze60. Yet somehow you can for the 80HE when selecting module only and even buy it individually, and all this is despite the fact that it isn't even out yet? And if you just buy the Lekker V2s with the full 60HE and instantly replace the V1s.... you don't get the discount on buying the V2s like you do when you select module only and have useless V1s for no reason if they're the same but worse.
60he will come with v2 when entire stock of v1.5 will be gone
@@JakubixIsHere and when is that?.... You sure 60he even is 1.5?
@@shiro5392 yes
Find us the Quietest switch for the 80HE. That would make me immensely happy.
Gateron I saw is working on a Silent switch. So that could be interesting.
The question now is how do the newly released jade pros and jade maxes sound. I think the maxes are going in my 80he
Will get those as well to try out. :)
Quick question, why is the frost colourway for the plastic case ONLY available as a module?
To reduce the amount of SKU's. Else we also need to make a pre-built ISO, JIS and ANSI version. This is more of a check for us to see how much interest the case gathers. Same with the Zinc Alloy Raw.
@@Wooting gotcha, thanks for clarifying things up, looking forward to the release!
any new information about the EU-Brug Batch, cant wait to get my 80he!
Are there any plans for the new video to coverore switches? Would like to hear the jade max switches
Yes, I will do a sound test on those as well. Maybe a bit later than other reviewers. I am going to China for week now and should receive samples with me to bring back home. So in two weeks, I will have a sound test hopefully.
@@Wooting Nice! :D
PCR w/ Raw HE 🤤
Yep. Sounds like a keyboard. Now which of the switches have the least wobble?
Geon RAW HE have the least wobble.
doesn't the 80he come with lekker v2 l60?
Please do white abs case, I like sound better but I cant purchase white case
me too I want abs white housing!!
Hey, what about the performance of the GEON RAW HE? Doesnt the shorter travel distance affect that somehow?
Doesnt gateron jades also have a shorter travel
@@ZeroChoices Yes but i think the Geon is a tiny bit shorter
Jades and Geons are shorter travel, yes. But the keyboard auto calibrates so you can still customize the full range motion of that switch.
3.4mm
#9 yeet yeet. Can't wait for my 80HE!!! @Wooting love you guys
The most important is does wooting80he can use jade switch pro/max?😊😊I have wait it for half year 😅
you'r'e the best! love my Two HE
How is stem wobble with the Geon RAW HE, compared to the Lekker v2?
Much better. There is nearly no wobble at all.
Question, Can I only swap my WASD switches on my 60he+ with L45 V2 and remain the other key switches L60
Yes, you can :)
Thock maxing damn
Lekker V2s sounding better than jades tbh.
Do you think that compatibility with the new jade low profile HE switches is possible ?
No, they sue a different pin out. You will have to go with the nuphy air60he.
lekkers sound great
Whats the performace like? I dont really care about sound. Noone compares performance. L45 vs gateron jade.
There is no performance difference other then the fact that Gateron Jade have a maximum of range of 3.5mm, instead of the 4.0 of the Lekker switches.
Our keyboards auto calibrate to make sure you can accurately use the full range of both switches.
Thanks bro
does the 80 come with the new lekker 45 v2 (0:41)? on my order it says linear60 v2
Pre-installed is Lekker V2 L60 yes. I swapped them out to L45 as this was also personally use by me and I prefer the lighter springs.
Does anyone know any hall effect switches that provide a creamy sound but are compatible with the wooting?
Hall Effects switches haven't come to that just yet. But I feel like in the coming year there will be more and more development on these kind of switches.
These are all so so loud…any options if you didn’t want to hear the keys at all?
Lets goo, I just bought the module just waiting for it to arrive got the Lekker 45 V2 swtiches
ME TOO IM SO EXCITED
Same got the module but imma put geon raw he switches in it
lekker man!
Are there any plans for a ISO german version of the pbt dye sub keycaps?
If you mean the white and black dye-subbed keycaps, then no. Not yet.
The market is still too small to support it.
why doesnt the tape come as default? it's clearly superior
There already is a rudimentary tape mod stock the painters tape is the tiniest bit better
I am ordering one for my birthday this month but do you know when it’s probably going to arrive
The checkout will give you an estimate. :)
@@amshermansen ok thank you so much
Why do so many people worry about the sound of their keyboard, when if you're gaming you've got some sort of audio device and can barely hear it?
I have the sennheisers HD800S and I can hear everything since they are open headphones, THOC sound for me is important not only because I like it the most soundwise but because its quiet as well
I use open headphones as well, so I hear everything. And those who use mainly speakers also hear it of course.
@@Wooting Yeah I guess open backs are a thing but speaker gaming is questionable but even when I owned a pair I must've had mine turned up too high - P.S Make my 80he already please pre-ordered in July :)
because it's fun
are the gateron jade pro compatible as well?
Yes, they are compatible. I am working on a sound test video as we speak!
^Sander
@@Wooting Oh nice! Also I was wondering, is the initial actuation force the same as the jade pro? not sure what cN and gf means for the switches when i look the specifications
cN comes close to gram force. Just a little different. But overall it is the same as the original Jades and is in the middle between L45 and L60 switches.
^Sander
I have a zinc alloy on the way. I got ceramic keycaps to put on as well. Cant decide between the Black Knights and the RAWs. Possibly thinking of doing mix, the space bar and shift keys being the Black Knights and the rest being RAW. Help me decide internet!
What you say is pretty fair. Muting the stabilizers a bit with the black knights and the raws for the pure typing sound.
Keep in mind RGB is hard to get through the Black Knights, so you must not care about that anyway if you choose them.
Does the v2 come fixed in the 80he or would I have to have them fixed myself? :)
Only with the 80HE module you'd have to install the switches yourself. The rest are pre-assembled boards and already come with the Lekker V2 L60's installed.
do the RAW HEs work with all the wooting features including as little as 0.1mm rapid trigger?
Yes, they do. Our keyboards auto calibrates the entire range. Even though our UI is still showing 4.0mm max it is just representing the relative distance instead of actually mm's. The actuation point in wootility has 40 steps you can change.
So 4.0mm switch with 40 steps is 0.1mm each step.
The RAW HE's with 3.4mm still has 40 steps. So 0.1mm in the UI would be actually 0.085 for the Geon RAWs.
@@Wooting wow that's why you're the best. this answered a lot of questions I had
@@Wooting so if i use 1.2 actuation now i need to go to 1.4 to have the exact same thing on the geon raw he?
I’d love to see this treatment given to the Wooting Two HE, zinc alloy and all, because I just can’t give up my numpad 😢
We won't be developing custom cases for the current Two HE as popularity is fairly low compared to the 60HE and 80HE.
Since the Two HE is out for a bit now, we'd probably be thinking of making an upgraded full size version instead.
What will the thickness of the PCB be? 1.2mm or 1.6mm?
Always 1.6mm
@@amshermansen thanks!
Are there actually any compatible silent switches?
Not yet. But Gateron is working on a silent switch as we speak. Which could be interesting.
@@Wooting Thank you thats great to know! I know most of the keyboard community lives by the Lord of the mighty Thock but as someone that worked in a huge office for many MANY years I grew kind of allergic to keyboard clackity clack. I really can't stand it but I just love the functionality of the Wooting.
Will changing switch still allow modifying the actuation point to 0.1mm in Wootility?
I've got the RAWs and can still do 0.1mm
@@Luke_ how are they worth buying? also what bottom force is the best?
@@mosh8726 They’re the best sounding HE switch imo. As for which actuation force, it’s personal preference. I went with 50g which was good for me.
@@Luke_ did you had to replace something else? i have a prebuild 60he+.
@@ronald0122 nope, everything else in the keyboard is stock, didn’t have to change the stabilisers which was nice
So these are not available for my Wooting Two HE, which should arrive tomorrow?
Not the Lekker v2s, no. Don't think it matters as a Wooting Two user though since I've got the Geon RAWS and they sound way better than both the Lekker v1s and v2s imo
@@Luke_ but didn't the 60HE and the Two HE use Lekker (v1) and therefore have the same connection? Why would the v2 then fit the 60HE and not the Two HE?
Or am I confusing something?
Your keyboard won't have these preinstalled - But you can absolutely buy V2s or any of the other compatible switches for your board.
@@amshermansen Okay, yeah, that what I was wondering! I was just confused, because the Two HE was never mentioned in the video, while the other models did get mentioned. So I wasn't sure if it was excluded specificly. Thank you!
Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knew what screws Wooting uses to mount the PCB to the case and if they can provide a link for me to purchase these from. Thank you!
You can reach out to social@wooting.io
Perhaps we can supply replacement screws. It is a bit busy though, so it might take a bit of time till we get back to you.
Why does Wooting make me feel like I made a mistake ordering the Wooting TWO HE. I feel like all the focus is only on the 80HE at the moment. I love my keyboard but it was just thrown out there with no love lol
I get what you say. Two HE has been out for a little bit now so it had more advertising and material back then. Nowadays the 60HE and 80HE are newer and more popular and new so we make all the content for that to serve a larger audience. Also I have limited time to work on all kinds of content, unfortunately. :(
That's why hopefully some other content creators could serve video's for that. :)
i Have the WS Dashs' for the wooting sounds very poppy
optimum tech collab when?🥲
When we have anything ready we will let you know! :D
u shud make a cherry magnet switches keeb
What desk pad?
i cant wait to get my 80he in october! so exacited!
october?💀 i get it mid november
@@il_kiri im in canada and my order status says "Arrives October 1 - 14"
Could be that kiri is in the second batch while you stonie, are in the first. Also courier choice matters a bit. :D
@@Wooting that is probably the case haha. And I just checked my order status now it says “Estimated Delivery 24 September - 07 October” it went down let’s gooo
I wanna try Lekker V2 on my Wooting TWO HE
How about jade switch pro
Ooof, that space bar is just... terrible. But that's what modding is for, I guess. I do see what you mean about the RAW HE switches tho, they do generally sound great.
Can you explain for a laymen
When will Wooting keyboards be available in INDIA? Lots of gamers are waiting 😢
I cant choose between Raw or GuGu😅
I liked mine ks20u oranges, but wanna test new jades pro
Curious about the pro's as well. Definitely keen on trying those out. :)
@@Wooting There are also Jade Max now on Gateron
No silent options ? 🥵
Please do it with jade maxs
Will do! :D
Gateron jades for me 👌👌👌
Could anyone push me in the right direction for a custom 80he/60he?
If you're scared of a 60% keyboard not having the extra keys, don't be. Function layers are easy to remember if you set them yourself, and the mod tap feature basically reataches the arrow keys back to the keyboard like magic. If you have to have the extra keys, the 80 is there though. If you're buying a Wooting for the rapid trigger functionality for your Valorant or CS games, the 60 is all you need.
@@middle_pickup mostly overwatch 2 rn
@@sethviewsjust buy the 80 if u havent got the 60 yet anyway
woot woot