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Thank you MFJJ and team for taking the time to make these videos..I really appreciate the fact that you are essentially reviewing arrows and making recommendations on building practical arrows at the same time..Awesome
Thank you for these videos. I have been into archery for the past 8 years, but it wasn't until recently that I started getting into the science behind arrows and tinkering. Really enjoy these videos and learning about ways in which I can go from a beginner bow, to intermediate, to advanced and tinkering along the way.
Thank you for all your vids!! You’ve made me a better archer than I have ever been. I woke up one day and said I’m tired of sucking at archery. Started watching your videos over a year ago and now I can fine tune my bow to installing my own peep and loop. I’m a very happy archer. Thanks buddy you rock. Jim Sheldon Grayling Mi.
Thanks for all the videos!!! I was watching Elk Shape video you had with Dan about a year ago on this FOC topic. I’m new to arrow tuning, so trying to soak up as much as I can. Appreciate all the knowledge drops MFJJ!!!
I love the series. One thing I think would be really helpful is if you gave us a couple different options for components. I know there’s a thousand options out there but a lighted nock is a must for me.
Thank you. I built my first batch of these with the aluminum insert they came with and added 40 grain of FACT weight to the front for a total of 180 gr up front with 100 gr point and the aluminum outsert. Three fletch HEAT vanes and picked lightest out of the pack at 6.4 grains per vane. I’m using a sever 1.5 for mech and Magnus singer for fixed. Total arrow weight was also 447 grains and I calculated at 16.4 %. I’ll probably drop down a touch if I use a lighted nock. Thanks for the top shelf content Josh you can’t beat the info you’re putting out there. 👍👍
Great addition to the knowledge you already share with us MFJJ. I know you’re a fan of the 5mm arrows because of component availability but I hope you’ll also review some 4mm options. Thanks again
I LOVE my airstrikes… I use the aluminum insert with the collar and add 20 grains behind the insert… I do use a wrap, but I cut I’d down to just barely longer then my fletching… I take off the nock collar and use a lighted nock with a 3 fletch max stealth vein… freaking durable as heck and fly EXTREMELY well… you gotta really abuse them to hurt them.
Me too. I used the ethics archery outsert system weighing 130 grains and a 100 grain Ozcut broadhead for 230 grains upfront on a 300 spine. It was awesome last year on elk, nilgai and whitetail.
I've been Absolutely Loving CARBON Express BLU-r z-350 ..RED ZONE. These arrows are hands down my fav..And they are super accurate and blow thru bone and targets! Haha 380grains at BLAZING speed. Shooting flatter then anything out there.🏁🎯
I’m not a pro but love to tinker. I’ve seen bigger variances from these shafts as far a straightness than I’d like, for the money you pay. Now as far as weight, the 300 shafts I weighed were actually lighter than 8.5 gpi which helped with foc. Maybe they weigh nock and collar, idk! Also removed the nock bushing to keep arrow light and still achieve goal of build.
I tested some compare to other .204 ID arrows but I like how the RIP TKO flew. It also in the right weight for what i wanted to use them for. Maybe next time I will try these again.
Thank you for all the great videos !!! Would it be possible to show some results of us lighter poundage shorter draw Archers ? 60lbs - 65lb 27.5 or 28"
Just a idea, weight out the bare shafts to get a more accurate number. I know knocks and other components can cause weight difference when weighting out your arrows.
I am just curious why 15% is the target? if you have a video on it I will definitely watch, just curious how that became the standard you're basing these off of? love the videos, keep them coming! Currently shooting the Hunter Pros but leaning towards the Air Stike this year for hunting. Thanks!!
I would like to see comparisons on fletchings noise differences. I personally don't use aae vanes because my wife pointed out how loud they are compared to bohing x vanes
Cant wait to see your video on full metal jackets ! Also super curious as what your thoughts are on the full metal jacket T64 arrows curious how they will compare
Oh also what are your thoughts on the QAD Ultra Rest MXT Mirco Adjust Rest? That’s what I have and I was wondering what the similarities and differences are and which one out preforms the other
I really liked using these last year. I built a 530 grain 16% FOC in the 300 spine that was solid on whitetail, elk and nilgai. I found them to be really durable and fly well. Keep posting content mate.
The air strikes were super good on paper so I bought them in a 250 spine. Out of 12 I had a weight difference of 10 grains in some. And straightness was all over the place. Ended up going with x-impacts. Was skeptical of the .166 but so far so good.
Air strikes are not worth the money imo. I've said it on another comment but the GT Quantum is their best offering at .204 in my opinion. And 9.3gpi in 250 spine
I got six in the 300 spine to try last year. Built a 530 grain 16% FOC hammer that went well on elk, nilgai and whitetail. That said, only 4 of them spun really well, so 66%. One of the two bed ones was tolerable. I’m going to try some RIP TKO’s this year.
Thoughts on the sheen of the coating on the airstrike arrow and reflecting light possibly visible to animals? anyone have experience with that in the field?
Buy Gold Tip Quantum and cut from both ends if need be. Have Quantum and Airstrike and if I'm gonna cut from each end I might as well save a few bucks. Maybe I got a crap batch of Airstrike, but that defeats the purpose of buying a .001 arrow. Quantum's are just a tad lighter gpi also.
What are your thoughts on on how much ( length) shaft has be cut off say a 28" shaft to change the spine enough that a really good archer would be able to see the flight impact difference?
The Air Strikes are definitely one of GT’s better offerings. Don’t get me started on the Kinetic Kaos though. I’ve got a box of macaroni noodles in my cupboard that spin better.
I personally love at AS so far I ran the Pierce Platinum last year heavier GPI and just rock solid I think they spun really good for the kinetic series I never tried the kaos though good to know
Why a heavier vane? Why not a lighter vane? Do you choose your broad head before your arrow or in conjunction with it? One of the issues I think many face are... lighted nock is about 23 grains and regular nocks 8 to 10. Does that 3 or 4 % make a difference? Or of you bump up to lighted nock should you bump to 125 head?
How convenient since this arrow is one of the ones that I thought about ordering 3 of to test in a series of .204 size arrows to go with my newish PRIME BLACK 3 that’s set at 65 lbs and 29.5 in draw. I am just not sure what other arrows to roll into the test yet. Any suggestions on a couple other consistent options?
@@bmills231 a cousin of mine mentioned that he likes those a lot after building some this off season. He has been shooting BE Rampage for years and loves those too. 🏹🦌🦃 Thanks 🙏
I don't know if a person could shoot the difference in one or even five grains in weight (but I still want to know if the shafts are all equal). Straightness is fine, but spine consistency is probably the more critical factor. I don't even think you need to show it all on camera, just one or two shafts. How do you check for spine? where is the stiff side? how stiff is it? how consistent is the spine across the dozen? Good video though, I think this could be a good series. More data, is good data.
So just a random question. I have not gotten into building my own arrows yet and was wondering if someone bought a dozen blanks would an archery shop build one for me or is that not going to happen. 😂
Would depend on your shop, but if you look behind their counter and see a dozen Bitzenburger fletching jigs on a circle of wood, good bet they'll build custom arrows.
Question- As a guy slinging 31” arrows with my rest as far back as it will go- do you know of any manufacturers other than black eagle that guarantee .001” straightness the full 32” of arrow?
I’m not MFJJ, but I’d suggest you buy premium arrows from whatever your favorite brand is. Sort out the “wobbly” ones for practice. Save the best shafts for practice and tinkering. A 0.005 straightness arrow is fine for shooting field points in the back yard. Lord knows I’ve shot the crap out of my practice arrows. It’s better to ruin fletching and Robin Hood the lesser shafts.
So,, when they promise tolerances as advertised - Are they replacing the wobbly arrows ??? With the cost of arrows these days - they shouldn't leave the factory unless they meet those advertised specs.
I was wondering if the Ballistic front collar and Ballistic nock collar is figured into your FOC numbers. I know both come when you buy the pre fletched version from a box store.
I’m sorry, but I have been shooting and making my own arrows for over 40 years. For $200 a dozen for bare shafts, then better damn well be dead straight and all weigh exactly the same. I have never paid more than $125 a dozen for shafts, and those were all Easton X-7’s. Target shafts. I am a Gold Tip shooter, but just like golf clubs and other gear, people are going to price themselves out of business. It will come, but they are blind to it, and folks are helping them by buying their products when other products will shoot just as well.
Thank you MFJJ and team for taking the time to make these videos..I really appreciate the fact that you are essentially reviewing arrows and making recommendations on building practical arrows at the same time..Awesome
Thank you for these videos. I have been into archery for the past 8 years, but it wasn't until recently that I started getting into the science behind arrows and tinkering. Really enjoy these videos and learning about ways in which I can go from a beginner bow, to intermediate, to advanced and tinkering along the way.
Thank you for all your vids!! You’ve made me a better archer than I have ever been. I woke up one day and said I’m tired of sucking at archery. Started watching your videos over a year ago and now I can fine tune my bow to installing my own peep and loop. I’m a very happy archer. Thanks buddy you rock. Jim Sheldon Grayling Mi.
Thanks for all the videos!!! I was watching Elk Shape video you had with Dan about a year ago on this FOC topic. I’m new to arrow tuning, so trying to soak up as much as I can. Appreciate all the knowledge drops MFJJ!!!
Perfect timing this is the arrow I was looking at building up. Look forward to it!!!!
I really liked using these arrows last year. Built a 530 grain 16% FOC in the 300 spine. You won’t be disappointed.
I love the series. One thing I think would be really helpful is if you gave us a couple different options for components. I know there’s a thousand options out there but a lighted nock is a must for me.
Thank you. I built my first batch of these with the aluminum insert they came with and added 40 grain of FACT weight to the front for a total of 180 gr up front with 100 gr point and the aluminum outsert. Three fletch HEAT vanes and picked lightest out of the pack at 6.4 grains per vane. I’m using a sever 1.5 for mech and Magnus singer for fixed. Total arrow weight was also 447 grains and I calculated at 16.4 %. I’ll probably drop down a touch if I use a lighted nock. Thanks for the top shelf content Josh you can’t beat the info you’re putting out there. 👍👍
I love these videos so much! You guys are awesome!
Love your vids! I learn something every time.
Great addition to the knowledge you already share with us MFJJ. I know you’re a fan of the 5mm arrows because of component availability but I hope you’ll also review some 4mm options. Thanks again
Thank you for the continued wealth of knowledge
I ready enjoy your videos. Found your videos a couple months ago🏹
I LOVE my airstrikes… I use the aluminum insert with the collar and add 20 grains behind the insert… I do use a wrap, but I cut I’d down to just barely longer then my fletching… I take off the nock collar and use a lighted nock with a 3 fletch max stealth vein… freaking durable as heck and fly EXTREMELY well… you gotta really abuse them to hurt them.
Me too. I used the ethics archery outsert system weighing 130 grains and a 100 grain Ozcut broadhead for 230 grains upfront on a 300 spine. It was awesome last year on elk, nilgai and whitetail.
Love learning about different arrows! You should review the Axis Long Range they are super popular right now. I've had multiple shops recommend them.
Great video guys keep it up. I would like to see a video on proper broadhead tuning.
Gold Tip is exceptional. The AirStrikes seem to be the best choice for hunting
Great videos love the content 100%
Thanks for the videos as always
Great review . Kindly do one on the pierce platinum .
Nice. I shot these last year. Using the collar, 4-fletch Heats, and Nockturnal I was able to get to 13.6%. (29” shaft)
I've been Absolutely Loving CARBON Express BLU-r z-350 ..RED ZONE. These arrows are hands down my fav..And they are super accurate and blow thru bone and targets! Haha 380grains at BLAZING speed. Shooting flatter then anything out there.🏁🎯
I’m not a pro but love to tinker. I’ve seen bigger variances from these shafts as far a straightness than I’d like, for the money you pay. Now as far as weight, the 300 shafts I weighed were actually lighter than 8.5 gpi which helped with foc. Maybe they weigh nock and collar, idk! Also removed the nock bushing to keep arrow light and still achieve goal of build.
I can't believe you grew to 17000 subscribers that quick
Not meaning that in the ignorant ways to dislike people alone for good information I'm glad they can get it from you
Love the videos. I know it takes time. But I'd love to see a review on the GT pierce platinum and the easton 4mm with the Halfout.
I tested some compare to other .204 ID arrows but I like how the RIP TKO flew. It also in the right weight for what i wanted to use them for. Maybe next time I will try these again.
Great content as always & like the cheat codes… 3 bow builds pleaseeeee!
Great video.
Great info, do the victory arrows next, am really curious about them
When weighing for consistency, do you remeasure after cutting down to length? Is there any utility in doing this? Thanks Josh great work as usual.
Love this idea
I like these videos
I believe straightness is measured on center 28" if I'm not mistaken
Would be great to see an arrow video focused on the long draw crew!
If you carry gold tip kentic peirce maybe a review on that with the balistic colars. Thanks for the content guys!
Thank you for all the great videos !!! Would it be possible to show some results of us lighter poundage shorter draw Archers ? 60lbs - 65lb 27.5 or 28"
Just a idea, weight out the bare shafts to get a more accurate number. I know knocks and other components can cause weight difference when weighting out your arrows.
Always enjoy the videos. What would be an equivalent Easton arrow for a Gold Tip Pro Hunter? 300 spine. Thanks
I am just curious why 15% is the target? if you have a video on it I will definitely watch, just curious how that became the standard you're basing these off of? love the videos, keep them coming! Currently shooting the Hunter Pros but leaning towards the Air Stike this year for hunting. Thanks!!
I would like to see comparisons on fletchings noise differences. I personally don't use aae vanes because my wife pointed out how loud they are compared to bohing x vanes
Just watched your vid great . But my question is about the knife you used to open them up what make. Thanks
The weird intros are the only reason I watch this😂😂😂
Cant wait to see your video on full metal jackets ! Also super curious as what your thoughts are on the full metal jacket T64 arrows curious how they will compare
Oh also what are your thoughts on the QAD Ultra Rest MXT Mirco Adjust Rest? That’s what I have and I was wondering what the similarities and differences are and which one out preforms the other
Can you review the Black label and black label quantums as well MFJJ? Thanks for the content brother.
Would you do a review on the Bohning Cauldron fletching jig and compare to the Arizona fletching jig?
Have you considered checking consistency of spine around the shaft? Or actual spine to what they are packaged as?
I really liked using these last year. I built a 530 grain 16% FOC in the 300 spine that was solid on whitetail, elk and nilgai. I found them to be really durable and fly well.
Keep posting content mate.
This is awesome. Can you explain pros&cons of 4 fletch? I see a bunch of ppl doing it, but from a F.O.C POV it doesn’t make sense
You use smaller vanes that weigh less. Weighs close to the same as 3 fletch but get the stability of 4 fletch
What size wrap should I use with a gold tip air strike arrow with a 300 spine??? Answer is very much appreciated
The air strikes were super good on paper so I bought them in a 250 spine. Out of 12 I had a weight difference of 10 grains in some. And straightness was all over the place. Ended up going with x-impacts. Was skeptical of the .166 but so far so good.
I saw the same wide variances and went with victory Rip Tko. Happier with them!
Air strikes are not worth the money imo. I've said it on another comment but the GT Quantum is their best offering at .204 in my opinion. And 9.3gpi in 250 spine
I got six in the 300 spine to try last year. Built a 530 grain 16% FOC hammer that went well on elk, nilgai and whitetail. That said, only 4 of them spun really well, so 66%. One of the two bed ones was tolerable.
I’m going to try some RIP TKO’s this year.
Thoughts on the sheen of the coating on the airstrike arrow and reflecting light possibly visible to animals? anyone have experience with that in the field?
At the end of the video it shows one of the arrows at 282.1 instead of 284.1.
Buy Gold Tip Quantum and cut from both ends if need be. Have Quantum and Airstrike and if I'm gonna cut from each end I might as well save a few bucks. Maybe I got a crap batch of Airstrike, but that defeats the purpose of buying a .001 arrow. Quantum's are just a tad lighter gpi also.
All you need to do is contact gold tip they’ll send you the brand-new dozen
What are your thoughts on on how much ( length) shaft has be cut off say a 28" shaft to change the spine enough that a really good archer would be able to see the flight impact difference?
The Air Strikes are definitely one of GT’s better offerings. Don’t get me started on the Kinetic Kaos though. I’ve got a box of macaroni noodles in my cupboard that spin better.
My experience with the air strikes was really good. Interesting to hear the KK’s were not.
I personally love at AS so far I ran the Pierce Platinum last year heavier GPI and just rock solid I think they spun really good for the kinetic series I never tried the kaos though good to know
Been looking for a HEXX replacement! Thinks he’s founds one :)
I am curious if the heaviest and lightest shaft have the most wobble...🤔
Why a heavier vane? Why not a lighter vane? Do you choose your broad head before your arrow or in conjunction with it? One of the issues I think many face are... lighted nock is about 23 grains and regular nocks 8 to 10. Does that 3 or 4 % make a difference? Or of you bump up to lighted nock should you bump to 125 head?
Have you done a review of the Easton Axis Long Range 340’s yet?
How convenient since this arrow is one of the ones that I thought about ordering 3 of to test in a series of .204 size arrows to go with my newish PRIME BLACK 3 that’s set at 65 lbs and 29.5 in draw. I am just not sure what other arrows to roll into the test yet. Any suggestions on a couple other consistent options?
GT Quantum .204
@@bmills231 a cousin of mine mentioned that he likes those a lot after building some this off season. He has been shooting BE Rampage for years and loves those too. 🏹🦌🦃 Thanks 🙏
RIP TKO’s and Black Eagle Rampage are comparable.
Does anyone have any experience with the gold tip black labels?
Mfjj can you do a review on the apex covert pro and truglo range rover pro duo with the pin less sight
Is this a good hunting arrow ima looking for some good hunting arrows
Awesome work. Maybe state what the final cost per arrow is.
He did 200 a dozen
Could you test carbon Express triad!?
Sooooo, what's the 2022 bow choice??
Can you show the variance between .01 .03 .06 ? Not numbers but the difference in actual group size. That would be super helpful
Can you do one on the axis 4mm
I would be interested in seeing if arrows rated at 300 spine are actually 300 and not actually 285 or 315 or something.
I don't know if a person could shoot the difference in one or even five grains in weight (but I still want to know if the shafts are all equal). Straightness is fine, but spine consistency is probably the more critical factor. I don't even think you need to show it all on camera, just one or two shafts. How do you check for spine? where is the stiff side? how stiff is it? how consistent is the spine across the dozen? Good video though, I think this could be a good series. More data, is good data.
So just a random question. I have not gotten into building my own arrows yet and was wondering if someone bought a dozen blanks would an archery shop build one for me or is that not going to happen. 😂
Would depend on your shop, but if you look behind their counter and see a dozen Bitzenburger fletching jigs on a circle of wood, good bet they'll build custom arrows.
Question- As a guy slinging 31” arrows with my rest as far back as it will go- do you know of any manufacturers other than black eagle that guarantee .001” straightness the full 32” of arrow?
Most of the companies seem to only make that guarantee out to 28”
I’m not MFJJ, but I’d suggest you buy premium arrows from whatever your favorite brand is. Sort out the “wobbly” ones for practice. Save the best shafts for practice and tinkering. A 0.005 straightness arrow is fine for shooting field points in the back yard.
Lord knows I’ve shot the crap out of my practice arrows. It’s better to ruin fletching and Robin Hood the lesser shafts.
Can you make a vid with Tko elite 70 lb 30” draw length for us men please thanks Josh awesome info
The strings you guys did on my v3x 33 came out awesome feels like a different bow like it picked up some good speed thanks
Overall weight of the arrow is ?
I like the airstrikes.. But I seen someone weight a dozen before and they where all over the place.
I’d like to see a review on vector customs HMR
Can you do the black eagle rampage .001?
MFJJ
Can you review Black Eagle Rampage please I am considering them
Why are we addicted to Archery???
Because it’s like Arrowien😆
7 inch per grain vanes :D
So,, when they promise tolerances as advertised - Are they replacing the wobbly arrows ??? With the cost of arrows these days - they shouldn't leave the factory unless they meet those advertised specs.
MFJJ Can You Please do the Gold Tip Black Label Quantum Arrows, Plz an Ty Sr
It is only Easton Procomps for me.
31 inch draw, dude says "you're gonna cut 4 inches off the front" 🤣🤣🤣
MFJJ please export your videos at a higher decibel level. i usually export my videos at -7db for youtube
I shoot good tips hunters like the video.trying go get the right broad head
Easton axis 15% please. I'm a short draw at 26. I know it's gonna be hard to get there.
Why don't you do a video on 100% breakdown of string building like 100% I'm talking about serving tension the whole 9 yd
Someone needs to fix that into. It’s so jarring how it just cuts out.
I was wondering if the Ballistic front collar and Ballistic nock collar is figured into your FOC numbers. I know both come when you buy the pre fletched version from a box store.
This is why I shoot Black Eagles. No wobbly ends.
Not may want to check out the videos on those garbage arrows
Are you and elk shape frens. Same guy ? Or am I off. Any ways. Saalute
Lol ,200 a dozen
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I’m sorry, but I have been shooting and making my own arrows for over 40 years. For $200 a dozen for bare shafts, then better damn well be dead straight and all weigh exactly the same. I have never paid more than $125 a dozen for shafts, and those were all Easton X-7’s. Target shafts. I am a Gold Tip shooter, but just like golf clubs and other gear, people are going to price themselves out of business. It will come, but they are blind to it, and folks are helping them by buying their products when other products will shoot just as well.
How about a 6.5 mm regular cheapo kill alot of stuff arrow that is what us poor people put meat 🍖 on the table with lol