This woman failed to burn down even a single tower. The man succeeded in tightening jars for 5 years. Moral of the story, if you fail, you're just not an asshole. We only want the best of the best.🤷
the woman was burning down that tower FOR HER PARTNER. the jar tightener was tightening jars FOR HIMSELF. she's a selfless queen who should be praised!!
Something you misunderstood about the third story, the friend that kept texting her that her husband was cheating on her and the friend that said you'll regret it if you go and hes not cheating and that gave her the ultimatum are two DIFFERENT friends.
@@peterusmc20 It says "best friend (different friend)" when mentioning who's babysitting then says that the best friend gave the ultimatum, so its fairly explicit. Arguably hard to keep track of if you're just listening and not reading though IMO.
I'd much rather them be this way than turn into some misogynistic podcast-bro hellhole, but the Councel has been making excuses for women since day 1 and sometimes it gets pretty silly
Great episode everyone! One comment: I think Danny is right to not be empathetic to the woman in the third question. I would be more sympathetic if A. It was a friend group rather than one single person convincing her of cheating or B. He didn't give 5-7 pieces of evidence decomfiriming the cheating before the stalking even started. This is like if your best friend told you constantly that the moon was made out of pudding and you started to believe it.
For how the friend was acting...I think the OP had issues already, and the friend does too, or wanted to ruin the relationship because of being a bitch or something. Like, nothing else explains why the fuck the friend would be that insisting on telling her friend about her husband's decent relationship with a recent female coworker, nor why OP would check all his stuff while saying she kept her friend's accusations out of mind. The way OP doesn't recognize at all how telling those actions were, simply because "they have an open device policy" is incredibly indicative that she CAN'T be fully well mentally. She needs therapy, and if her husband constantly tried to assuage her about it, I believe he can help her through all this and keep the relationship... So long as the aforementioned deranged friend is kept out of her life from then on.
I stand with anarchist amateur conspiracy theorist lady who just wants to do right by her man when the big state is out to get them!! 👏🙌🙏💯 Amen, sister!
I finally understand that Joseph has no moral compass. He cares not of right or wrong, good or evil, sanity or madness. The only thing he will base an opinion off of is if something seems reddit. Arson? That doesn't really give redditor vibes, so it must be okay.
I mean, it feels like at best, he's trying to make the entire thing more interesting to talk through by finding an angle shoot where the other person isn't completely in the wrong, and at worst, he found something he could say to make the discussion go on longer even if it is complete nuts regardless and committed to the bit entirely so it was funnier.
This episode showcases that neither the straights or gays are ok. That said, that third story reads like a fucking Spongebob episode that breached its kids rating.
Second Story reminds me of a hot take I've been cooking for a bit. Don't get married or have children before you've sorted out your various brain funks. Most people have not degunked their brains by 21
also from what I can tell its the best friend, not the bitch who gave the ultimatum, and it was probably the correct move. its someone who is doing everything in her power to prevent her best friend from throwing her life into the gutter
The whole covid story is especially wild to me because Covid barely effected me. Got on unemployment for 3 weeks, stopped going to the bar. Everything else was pretty much the same.
My take is that the friend is actually secretly in love with the wife and thus gaslighting her so her marriage will end and she will be free and single and be emotionally in debt to her and have deep trust in her for saving her from her cheating husband, thus leading them to get together as she's in deep sadness from her husband's unfaithfulness
If last week's theme was people not wanting others to be happy and the week before was Danny's entire emotional spectrum, this week is people getting manipulated by the weirdest fucking shit you ever heard. From 5G to parental incest to someone ruining a marriage just because she was bored or something. How was it that the incest story had the wholesome ending of the 3?
The last story can indeed have both answers, but it all depends on how the woman would talk to her husband about. If she's the type of person that says "I was influenced and saw that you're better than this, good boy", then we can hold some grudge about it. Otherwise, if she recognizes her mistake and apologizes for it, then protect her at all costs.
Tw: real Life Trauma related to conspiracies So some real life viewer experience here, since my dad got into right wing conspiracy theories during COVID and I was struggling to keep my relationship with him until a few months ago. This stuff is like an addiction, you cannot let go of it unless you want to and if their partner doesn't want to this will not get better, no matter the husband's input. I broke off contact with my dad about a month ago when my mom was in the hospital (they separated shortly after my birth and i live with my mom, yes I have a job and pay rent) and I was seriously sick and all he did was preach about some sort of revelation I must have if I don't want my mom to DIE. So yeah, I tried this for 4 years at this point and all I got was my father, a person I know literally since birth, kicking me when I was down. There is no saving these people unless they want to be saved. It'll bring you nothing but harm to keep holding onto these sorts of relationships.
the last story is more like society constantly conditions women to be insecure about themselves and their desirability and preying on that insecurity is obscenely easy because of a lifetime of social priming and beauty standards and patriarchy and shit she obviously shouldnt have stalked her husband, and she needs to come clean about what she did and cut off that friend but im not more mad than a heartfelt apology
Can someone please tell me what peeps says in the theme song after “we pretend we know the rules to chess”? I’ve tried so hard but I cannot figure out what he is saying
I love how they attack the poster who absolutely did not deserve the hate. Like reading the fucking updates; some people just don’t feel like writing novels for a post
Totally agree it already indicates a level of distrust just by itself does it not? My wife and I have never once had this conversation nor tried to check each others devices even once in the 8 years we’ve been together.
@@ducky36F Right. If you need to have access to someone's personal messages to "trust" them, you don't trust them and probably aren't ready for a serious relationship. If we need something specific from each other's phone, my partner and I are okay with us looking for it, like a time for an event from one of our friends. Neither of us would ever snoop for dirt without the other's knowledge
Joseph really testing the limits of the man is always the one in the wrong here. I'm starting to look forward to the lesbian ones just because he HAS to think a woman did something wrong.
Okay, for the first one I agree with Joseph if he didnt extend into being ironic near the end of it. Everyone gets mislead. In her mind she was trying to do what she thought was the best. And if I may give a hot take, maybe its the fault of everyone around her for letting her believe in these things? Like where are we at as a society where people wont even speak up when someone is obviously wrong and try their best to help someone. Do people not realize how bad and stressful these negative thought patterns are? I would never even consider breaking up with my partner if they did that. But maybe the fact you even consider it shows that you should break up, I dont think if you loved someone as much as you could with whoever you'd end up living your life with, that you'd do that to them.
No. just absolutely not. This woman is not a child, she is not some helpless creature, she is an adult human being who tried to firebomb a cell tower. That's not something you do because you "get mislead". To your point about no one speaking up, her partner literally did speak up. He mentioned in the post that they'd been arguing about it on and off for months, and she refused to listen. You cannot help someone who does not want to be helped, who doesn't even realize they need help.
@@bencrandall-malcolm8303 That's not true, peoples perception of reality can be vastly different than one another. This is why psych wards exist, because the way some people perceive and therefor interact with the world is built on an aberrated manifest. Have you never done drugs before and seen this first hand? Of course shes not a child -- shes heroic, she loves her partner, she risked her life to do the only thing she could ever think was right in her frame of reality. Although, no, I guess you're right.. these crazy people don't listen to reason! That's why we just put them in the asylum and perform lobotomies on them, because they can't be helped and they aren't people.
No people who believe these things are frequently dangerous and threaten regular people trying to do their jobs. They get no sympathy from me. The husband said it was already a point of contention she just chose insanity over reason. It’s funny to Joseph because he wasn’t on the other end of it, trust me it stops being amusing real quick when you are being attacked out of the blue because of some insane conspiracy theorist, I would have been clear that if my partner chose to believe this nonsense our relationship is over long before it got to that point.
ok, incest one. Firstly, wanting to have a child which is related to you could just be something she's always wanted, its completely fine to want to share down your genetics and to want to raise a child in a conventional way. secondly, if you think about it on paper (and only on paper) if you want to have a child in a more traditional sense with someone and want to share down both people's genes, like many people would like, if youre in a gay relationship, with current technology that is publicly available, the only method is getting someone related to 1 person to take the other role. thirdly, I think that the idea of touching the father's semen is what pushes it over the line. the concept of fertilising the egg in a lab and then reintroducing it to the mother is bearable being the only option which ticks her boxes, but still a little weird, but effectively masturbating with the person you have sex with's father's semen is disgusting.
questioning why people want to pass down their own genetics feels like questioning why people want sex. Like yeah? as a human I have an imperative to pass down my genes and its not like im going to dissociate from who I am just because of that. ALSO yes it is weird and gross to try and force people to do something they arent comfortable with, Im not defending 21's actions, but her morals.
"as a human i have an imperative to pass down my genes" as a human with a bladder you have an imperative to piss wherever you need to but you don't just let blast after a glass of water, come on mate
@@johntheamazing9337the reality is right now if you are in a queer relationship and want to have children you can’t both be genetically related to child without involving a family member which is just flat out weird. So not to be mean but that means if you are in a queer relationship and want a child someone will have to accept that child is not “genetically” related to them.
Im not making comment about whether she's in the right to be trying to force her partner into that, in fact I explicitly say its wrong somewhere in this block of text. What I was doing was giving an explanation for why people can think like this.
I thought about it more and the extreme reaction to this situation most people have could be most easily compared to an allergy. Allergies are when the body mistakes something for poison and rejects it even to the extent of severely harming the person. Of course telling them this isnt going to stop their allergic reaction its going to kill them. This reaction to having her to be father in law's child is an extension of this extreme rejection of incest which has served humanity well. Her wife effectively told an allergic person to just get their immune system to accept nuts instead of getting an epipen.
A woman can burn down a tower and we are all hunkie dorie but a man tightens one too many jars and its all over!! I love this podcast
This woman failed to burn down even a single tower. The man succeeded in tightening jars for 5 years. Moral of the story, if you fail, you're just not an asshole. We only want the best of the best.🤷
okay in my defense i was both pro-woman AND pro-jar. those other two freaks are on their own
@@MBTYuGiOh Yeah, and you were wrong on both.
the woman was burning down that tower FOR HER PARTNER. the jar tightener was tightening jars FOR HIMSELF. she's a selfless queen who should be praised!!
MBT's hypothetical in the first one is so funny "so what if instead of being sick for awhile the guy was GOING TO DIE AT THIS MAN'S HANDS"
Something you misunderstood about the third story, the friend that kept texting her that her husband was cheating on her and the friend that said you'll regret it if you go and hes not cheating and that gave her the ultimatum are two DIFFERENT friends.
@Perdix458 yeah I was thinking that too, not sure if it's explicitly stated to be two different friends but I think it reads that way.
@@peterusmc20 It says "best friend (different friend)" when mentioning who's babysitting then says that the best friend gave the ultimatum, so its fairly explicit. Arguably hard to keep track of if you're just listening and not reading though IMO.
@@TheDocperian that or I'm a just big dummy head or both.
Peeps really was charging his "I hate men" on the 5G post until MBT was done reading
Words cannot describe the terror and anticipation I feel at seeing "Ah, real coffee" in the description
Whenever Joseph gets the way that he got in the first story, it makes me sort of get why the guys who killed Socrates did that.
The first 12 minutes are the most Guys in their 30s conversation I’ve ever heard I need more 😂
Joseph getting too empathetic. Just because someone was misguided doesn't make what they did excusable.
"Even in the weirdest situations a relationship can be salvageable" BARRING EXCLUSIVALY JAR-BASED CONFLICT
Can you imagine if that woman tighten jars instead of burning towers
Many such cases
I couldn’t help but think that if the genders were swapped in the first and third stories this week, there would be zero empathy
Yeah get the wackjobs and the people that can’t deal with you having friends outta here regardless of their gender.
I'd much rather them be this way than turn into some misogynistic podcast-bro hellhole, but the Councel has been making excuses for women since day 1 and sometimes it gets pretty silly
Great episode everyone! One comment: I think Danny is right to not be empathetic to the woman in the third question. I would be more sympathetic if
A. It was a friend group rather than one single person convincing her of cheating or
B. He didn't give 5-7 pieces of evidence decomfiriming the cheating before the stalking even started.
This is like if your best friend told you constantly that the moon was made out of pudding and you started to believe it.
For how the friend was acting...I think the OP had issues already, and the friend does too, or wanted to ruin the relationship because of being a bitch or something.
Like, nothing else explains why the fuck the friend would be that insisting on telling her friend about her husband's decent relationship with a recent female coworker, nor why OP would check all his stuff while saying she kept her friend's accusations out of mind.
The way OP doesn't recognize at all how telling those actions were, simply because "they have an open device policy" is incredibly indicative that she CAN'T be fully well mentally. She needs therapy, and if her husband constantly tried to assuage her about it, I believe he can help her through all this and keep the relationship...
So long as the aforementioned deranged friend is kept out of her life from then on.
@@KuroeNezumi My soap opera theory is that the friend wants the husband and is trying to break up their marriage
you know peeps is gonna cook when he says "I'm sorry but"
I stand with anarchist amateur conspiracy theorist lady who just wants to do right by her man when the big state is out to get them!!
👏🙌🙏💯 Amen, sister!
Oh so now we're stepping into the truly, iredeemably crazy territory.
I finally understand that Joseph has no moral compass. He cares not of right or wrong, good or evil, sanity or madness. The only thing he will base an opinion off of is if something seems reddit.
Arson? That doesn't really give redditor vibes, so it must be okay.
I mean, it feels like at best, he's trying to make the entire thing more interesting to talk through by finding an angle shoot where the other person isn't completely in the wrong, and at worst, he found something he could say to make the discussion go on longer even if it is complete nuts regardless and committed to the bit entirely so it was funnier.
This episode showcases that neither the straights or gays are ok.
That said, that third story reads like a fucking Spongebob episode that breached its kids rating.
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this is my new favorite episode of the podcast
Perfect timing I just went to check for it when it went up
Second Story reminds me of a hot take I've been cooking for a bit.
Don't get married or have children before you've sorted out your various brain funks. Most people have not degunked their brains by 21
when i heard the 3rd story all i could think of is the friend being the woman who gives bad advice in the "wolf bitch" episode of the boondocks
SOUL READ: that "friend" of the wife who is telling her hes cheating, is the one who wants in the husband
also from what I can tell its the best friend, not the bitch who gave the ultimatum, and it was probably the correct move. its someone who is doing everything in her power to prevent her best friend from throwing her life into the gutter
Really didn’t expect the Malk reference in 2024.
fartin on my roommate’s door
did you see it?
did you see it
This line up already sounds peak
I'm stealing "Barstool Sports Universe" to replace NPC/Normie now.
Never trust anyone who thinks you can have an emotional affair
50:50 ergh people who are weird about men and women being friends are the worst.
I love how we kept saying she didn't actually commit the arson like conspiracy to commit Arson doesn't land you up to 25 years by itself.
The whole covid story is especially wild to me because Covid barely effected me. Got on unemployment for 3 weeks, stopped going to the bar. Everything else was pretty much the same.
My take is that the friend is actually secretly in love with the wife and thus gaslighting her so her marriage will end and she will be free and single and be emotionally in debt to her and have deep trust in her for saving her from her cheating husband, thus leading them to get together as she's in deep sadness from her husband's unfaithfulness
36:33 this can’t be real I refuse to believe it
excellent title
If last week's theme was people not wanting others to be happy and the week before was Danny's entire emotional spectrum, this week is people getting manipulated by the weirdest fucking shit you ever heard. From 5G to parental incest to someone ruining a marriage just because she was bored or something.
How was it that the incest story had the wholesome ending of the 3?
The last story can indeed have both answers, but it all depends on how the woman would talk to her husband about. If she's the type of person that says "I was influenced and saw that you're better than this, good boy", then we can hold some grudge about it. Otherwise, if she recognizes her mistake and apologizes for it, then protect her at all costs.
Tw: real Life Trauma related to conspiracies
So some real life viewer experience here, since my dad got into right wing conspiracy theories during COVID and I was struggling to keep my relationship with him until a few months ago.
This stuff is like an addiction, you cannot let go of it unless you want to and if their partner doesn't want to this will not get better, no matter the husband's input.
I broke off contact with my dad about a month ago when my mom was in the hospital (they separated shortly after my birth and i live with my mom, yes I have a job and pay rent) and I was seriously sick and all he did was preach about some sort of revelation I must have if I don't want my mom to DIE.
So yeah, I tried this for 4 years at this point and all I got was my father, a person I know literally since birth, kicking me when I was down. There is no saving these people unless they want to be saved. It'll bring you nothing but harm to keep holding onto these sorts of relationships.
The funny part of hawk tuah is clearly supposed to be the line delivery right, like people surely aren't laughing at the existance of head
what happened to this week?
gone, forever lost.
the last story is more like society constantly conditions women to be insecure about themselves and their desirability and preying on that insecurity is obscenely easy because of a lifetime of social priming and beauty standards and patriarchy and shit
she obviously shouldnt have stalked her husband, and she needs to come clean about what she did and cut off that friend but im not more mad than a heartfelt apology
Can someone please tell me what peeps says in the theme song after “we pretend we know the rules to chess”? I’ve tried so hard but I cannot figure out what he is saying
i asked this about a week or two ago and someone said "regular and such"
It’s king scarlet singing, not peeps
I always heard "We are Marincess" but there's no reality where that's correct
@@passtheyaoi I think it's "hither and such"
@@hydraheadhannukah I mean, we have Marincess Blue Tang on the pod
being chairmen mao of the redditors sounds like a horrible title lmao
I love how they attack the poster who absolutely did not deserve the hate. Like reading the fucking updates; some people just don’t feel like writing novels for a post
having an "open device policy" is such a red flag.
Totally agree it already indicates a level of distrust just by itself does it not?
My wife and I have never once had this conversation nor tried to check each others devices even once in the 8 years we’ve been together.
@@ducky36F Right. If you need to have access to someone's personal messages to "trust" them, you don't trust them and probably aren't ready for a serious relationship.
If we need something specific from each other's phone, my partner and I are okay with us looking for it, like a time for an event from one of our friends. Neither of us would ever snoop for dirt without the other's knowledge
You're all being weird about the genetics things. Why else would people try for kids instead of adopting?
Joseph really testing the limits of the man is always the one in the wrong here. I'm starting to look forward to the lesbian ones just because he HAS to think a woman did something wrong.
Okay, for the first one I agree with Joseph if he didnt extend into being ironic near the end of it. Everyone gets mislead. In her mind she was trying to do what she thought was the best. And if I may give a hot take, maybe its the fault of everyone around her for letting her believe in these things? Like where are we at as a society where people wont even speak up when someone is obviously wrong and try their best to help someone. Do people not realize how bad and stressful these negative thought patterns are? I would never even consider breaking up with my partner if they did that. But maybe the fact you even consider it shows that you should break up, I dont think if you loved someone as much as you could with whoever you'd end up living your life with, that you'd do that to them.
No. just absolutely not. This woman is not a child, she is not some helpless creature, she is an adult human being who tried to firebomb a cell tower. That's not something you do because you "get mislead".
To your point about no one speaking up, her partner literally did speak up. He mentioned in the post that they'd been arguing about it on and off for months, and she refused to listen. You cannot help someone who does not want to be helped, who doesn't even realize they need help.
@@bencrandall-malcolm8303 That's not true, peoples perception of reality can be vastly different than one another. This is why psych wards exist, because the way some people perceive and therefor interact with the world is built on an aberrated manifest. Have you never done drugs before and seen this first hand? Of course shes not a child -- shes heroic, she loves her partner, she risked her life to do the only thing she could ever think was right in her frame of reality. Although, no, I guess you're right.. these crazy people don't listen to reason! That's why we just put them in the asylum and perform lobotomies on them, because they can't be helped and they aren't people.
No people who believe these things are frequently dangerous and threaten regular people trying to do their jobs. They get no sympathy from me. The husband said it was already a point of contention she just chose insanity over reason.
It’s funny to Joseph because he wasn’t on the other end of it, trust me it stops being amusing real quick when you are being attacked out of the blue because of some insane conspiracy theorist, I would have been clear that if my partner chose to believe this nonsense our relationship is over long before it got to that point.
ok, incest one.
Firstly, wanting to have a child which is related to you could just be something she's always wanted, its completely fine to want to share down your genetics and to want to raise a child in a conventional way.
secondly, if you think about it on paper (and only on paper) if you want to have a child in a more traditional sense with someone and want to share down both people's genes, like many people would like, if youre in a gay relationship, with current technology that is publicly available, the only method is getting someone related to 1 person to take the other role.
thirdly, I think that the idea of touching the father's semen is what pushes it over the line. the concept of fertilising the egg in a lab and then reintroducing it to the mother is bearable being the only option which ticks her boxes, but still a little weird, but effectively masturbating with the person you have sex with's father's semen is disgusting.
questioning why people want to pass down their own genetics feels like questioning why people want sex. Like yeah? as a human I have an imperative to pass down my genes and its not like im going to dissociate from who I am just because of that.
ALSO yes it is weird and gross to try and force people to do something they arent comfortable with, Im not defending 21's actions, but her morals.
"as a human i have an imperative to pass down my genes"
as a human with a bladder you have an imperative to piss wherever you need to but you don't just let blast after a glass of water, come on mate
@@johntheamazing9337the reality is right now if you are in a queer relationship and want to have children you can’t both be genetically related to child without involving a family member which is just flat out weird. So not to be mean but that means if you are in a queer relationship and want a child someone will have to accept that child is not “genetically” related to them.
Im not making comment about whether she's in the right to be trying to force her partner into that, in fact I explicitly say its wrong somewhere in this block of text. What I was doing was giving an explanation for why people can think like this.
I thought about it more and the extreme reaction to this situation most people have could be most easily compared to an allergy.
Allergies are when the body mistakes something for poison and rejects it even to the extent of severely harming the person. Of course telling them this isnt going to stop their allergic reaction its going to kill them.
This reaction to having her to be father in law's child is an extension of this extreme rejection of incest which has served humanity well. Her wife effectively told an allergic person to just get their immune system to accept nuts instead of getting an epipen.