Damn, I NEED to hear Joseph's thoughts on story 2, I think what they're missing is Joseph's "Shinigami Eye" ability to sus out things that aren't being said. Dan and Jordan are so focused on the "Men are dumb" bit to see the bigger picture.
I stand with guy #2, some of us just completely lack brains and don't interpret anything as romantic unless someone tells us it is. And frankly it sounds like a nice thing to do for someone that needs a pick-me-up! Justice for the childlike innocence of brainlet man
I don't really care about the third guy johnny or something missing, but I'm not quite sure I can sleep tonight without knowing who was on the 1s and 2s for this one
I think Danny is confusing weaponized incompetence with being a himbo. Yes, there are dudes that are that easy-going and overall "dumb." It's an entire archetype of guy for fucks sake. Yes, there is a chance that the dude thought everything was innocent and friendly. The dude in the second post is a HIMBO.
Yeah, like he was messaging his wife, and about he being 90 minutes with her is like, have you never started talking to someone and started having fun? Maybe I'm weird, but I like talking to people, I enjoy talking about the things I like, honestly the guy just seems like an easy going person
I mean not only do I think there is a chance that he thought it was innocent and friendly it seems to me that it WAS innocent and friendly. Why would you try to seduce your friends husband and then post it on insta and while he had texted the wife to let her know and while she was the one who suggested he pick her up from the airport. The girl is described as having been through a rough patch and they seemed to have had a nice time and went from acquaintances to fond friends with a shared mutual person in your life. From the lady's perspective having had a surprisingly good night and made a new friend having been through a rough time it makes total sense to text thanks and to make a social media post about it. Seems very clear that there was no cheating etc done so the issue seems to be jealousy on the part of the wife either due to an insecurity or some other issue in the relationship. Most likely explanation to me is that op doesn't take his wife out much and that the issue is coming from how to her perspective he is treating her friend better than her. Which is a separate issue that is not commented on in the post.
@@peterusmc20 I ended up looking up the post myself. There was an update post where the OP asked his wife what was wrong. Turns out the wife's mom blew up the entire thing showing the wife the photo and saying that he was cheating on her, and that "this is how affairs start." There was also the fact that Amanda posted the picture without stating that OP and her were friends, and so a lot of comments assumed they were dating. Amanda also doesn't want to take down the picture because it had gotten a shit ton of likes. OP was definitely not in the wrong here, and he definitely seems like a cool easy-going dude. It sucks that the three stooges basically decided that this wholesome guy was evil before they even started reading the post.
"we're not saying men and women can't be friends." "so what was this guy doing, hanging out and having a good time with this women for 90 minutes???" come on now.
ok danny's comment about her posting an image "without his consent" and that the guy is in the wrong for not caring is STRAIGHT UP making up shit for this guy to be in the wrong. pretty poor episode just for the second story, i think!
@@Bladexeno The whole thing about Danny saying the dude was "weaponizing incompetence" was so weird too. Like, what that dude is doing was not weaponized Incompetence. There was absolutely no ill intent in that story except for the ill intent that Danny conjured from out of his ass.
Case 2: I kind of hate that that's wrong to do! It sounds like just the pick-me-up she needed. A friend of your wife is your friend, and you should be allowed to do nice things for them. The response should have been concern for the wife's friend, not jealousy that attention was spent elsewhere.
I genuinely dont see the issue with what the dude did in story 2 and it feels extremely like the "you cant have male/female friends" style insecurity. Like yeah if I was driving a friend home and they accidentally punched in some nice Italian place, unless I didnt have the money for it, I'd 100% eat there. I'm hungry, the food is good, what's the problem? Maybe the picture was a little much I guess but even that is like whatever. Screams of unreasonable insecurity to even suggest it was some romantic date with no further context than "they got food together and had a nice time." Edit: It might be my autism that makes me feel this way, idk. Just seems like this whole story is a big of an overreaction to nothing at all.
It's not wrong! It's fine and good! There might have needed some extra layers of communication, but you can go out to dinner with friends who are opposite sex!
What I'm reading from this is either wife is jealous as she wants more romance from #2 and maybe he hasn't taken her on a date for a while and she is annoyed that he seems to go that little above and beyond for others but not her which I think is justified but there the issue is that he should spent more time doing fun stuff with her not that he shouldn't go to dinner with her friend. Or that wife doesnt like him being friends and spending time with other girls in general in which case he's not in the wrong at all.
you should extra do nice things for them because she's a friend of your wife, idk how this is a weird thing, like if i was the wife i'd want my husband to be extra nice to my besties.
I don’t think you can get away with a “we don’t think men and women can’t be friends” hand waive when you have the same opinion on men and women having dinner as Mike Pence
I hard disagree on case number 2, simply because I know so many people (including myself) who would completely stumble into this scenario and lack either the knowledge or confidence to get themselves out of it. Re: the point at the end of telling someone "no, that's not okay," while yes you should be able to do that and have those wishes be respected, so many people are just so averse to conflict or so uncomfortable with navigating social boundaries that they'll just freeze up and go along or otherwise not object to it. I feel like y'all really lost the forest for the trees with regards to all of he factors that played into that situation. Of course, all of that only holds true if we assume he's being completely truthful in that scenario. I agree with a few other commenters pointing out that the story itself feels either fabricated or massaged into a specific narrative that excludes some other things that are probably the real sticking points of the issue at hand.
Yeah, I hard disagree with Danny saying the guy is using weaponized incompetence. Like, I know I miss a lot of "obvious social flags" due to being autistic (what's obvious for others is not obvious to me) and guy #2 just comes across as a himbo who is just trying to be nice.
The problem with scenario #2 is that it's hard to draw a line when you think someone might be coming on to you. I've been in situations where taken women have been (seemingly) hitting on me, and when I've been hit on while in a relationship. Bringing up concerns or pulling away can result in a lot of "check your ego, she wasn't hitting on you" or even "how can you accuse her of coming on to you while you/she is in a relationship??". It can be awkward. Guy 2 handled it terribly, but drawing those lines can get messy.
@@AL-ry5ly that's assuming she was being flirty. If she was being flirty or trying something then why post it on insta etc. its possible sure but it doesn't sound like op thought it was flirty and if the friend was coming out of a rough time she could just be having fun making a new friend. I think it's a extremely cynical view the boys seemed to have settled on that the friend was trying to manipulate the situation in some way. The big issue just seems to be either a social perspective of the wife seeming uncomfortable with her husband being seen with others on social media or that he is taking other girls out or that he isn't taking her out enough. Only the last one is really the husband or the friends fault tbh.
Joesph can never leave ever again. Story 2 was a disaster. There was clear communication what was happening and you should be allowed to have women as friends, end of story.
Its not even internet brain rot, this is just a problem even normal offline people seem to have, this idra that men and women cant interact unless theres a romantic or sexual subtext to it, its fuckin weird @@ducky36F
I super hate the idea of people loving big weddings when it isn’t consensual. It isn’t just for the one person and taking on financial stress in the actual marriage so that strangers can enjoy a party that should be about you. However if the guy says “let’s save up a few more years to have a big wedding” how is that any different than just making payments instead of saving for that same amount of time? He’s not against the idea in general, he just doesn’t like being in debt, which is understandable, but is realistically the same and assuages your wife’s ridiculousness. I’d rather take the best honeymoon ever than a giant wedding
I feel like learning that a mutual acquaintance shares a lot in common with you over dinner, esp if they’re having a rough time, is a good thing? He wasn’t hiding the dinner from his wife, he didn’t guide her to a fancy restaurant, and what’s bad about her saying that she had a really nice time if it’s the truth and she feels better? This podcast is too straight to function without Joseph here.
The woman in the first story is giving off major red flags, at least from my perspective. Dude says no, sits down with her, and explains his reasoning in a sympathetic way, and her response is to accuse him of "not caring about her happiness," then pout like a toddler and give him the silent treatment. Now, I'll admit that my viewpoint might be biased on account of being an aroace guy, but I feel like any relationship where you're unable to have a conversation like adults when you disagree on something important is going to fall apart sooner rather than later.
Aroace woman here, imagine basically every piece of media and all your friends and your parents talking about your "special day" when u grow up and get married that's what it's like for a lot of woman. Guy's not an asshole but the woman absolutely feels like she's being told santa isn't real.
So there was an update on the second story where it came out the whole reason the wife got really upset was because the MIL can in and freaked out about the husband “going behind her back” and having dinner with Amanda, and Amanda being an influencer and such. So in the end it feels like this wouldn’t even have been as big an issue if the MIL didn’t intervene
Woman here: As a woman the one big thing people tell us to look forward to is our wedding. It's like *the* thing. Like EVERYONE will be talking about "oh when i get married" "for my wedding". Your parents will be like "i saved this wine from your birth for your wedding" your friends will be like "oh i would love for this to play at my wedding". The movies you grow up with all build up to a beautiful wedding. it's super fucking annoying as an aroace. But I understand woman 1. Your first wedding is something basically everyone builds up for you and you really want it to be special. I don't think the guy is the asshole for not wanting to go into debt but I absolutely understand why she'd be upset. Like i'm aroace. I don't plan on getting married so I don't plan on having a wedding. And i feel GUILTY about that sometimes because of how much other people have invested into a day I don't plan on having. It's wild man.
The guy was screwed in everyway if he ate with her hes guilty if he left to a McDonald's hes still guilty because hes spending time with another girl if it was reversed he would still be blamed
@@vergillives9890 nah man, the task was to pick her up from the airport. She wanted food and asked to grab something from a fast food place. HE escalated it to a sit down meal and chose to go to a fancy place when she gave him the out of saying it's too fancy. This is on him
Ngl I see absolutely nothing wrong with what the resturant going guy did except maybe drop your wife a text at the time asking if it's OK. Without having more information about why the wife is so disturbed by it, like having been cheated on in the past etc I think its perfectly normal. Like clearly nothing happened, she is free to call up her friend and ask, and it was posted on Instagram etc it's not like it was shady or whatever. As the dumb guy I am I would be glad my partner made my friend feel welcome etc especially if they were going through a hard time etc. The just from the post which I get is from the guy it comes across as a weird amount of insecurity over what would seem to me as well a funny story.
Wait post edit info that they were messaging during the night then absolutely nothing wrong done. I want my partner to be friends with my friends. I do not think there is any evidence of there being a flirty aspect to this which there could be but I don't see any evidence. I also don't think that the girl was trying to cheat or whatever because clearly she posted it on insta etc.
Yeah they handwave the edit but I think it’s very important. Keeping his wife in the loop in real time vs not telling her until afterwards (or when she found out on instagram) are too very different things.
@@peterusmc20and we dont know how long hes been driving if hes been driving for an hour to pick up the person and waited for 2 hours he was probably starving
Men and women can be friends and eat food without it being romantic, but context matters and this got progressively more suspect as things went on. I find the whole string of events this husband went through to be totally defensible, but at every step where you tell yourself "no, this is fine and normal", you either have to believe that your wife will agree or reconsider if things might have gone a bit too far.
20:47 I think the thing is with weddings is you can find a way to do something nice without blowing the bank. Traditional wedding prices are predatory and you are 100% better off seeking alternatives
There's literally nothing wrong with what happened in the second story except for the friend having the picture taken and posting about it on instragram
0:00 being a streamer changes your brain 5:11 Ikea's virtual Roblox store 17:12 "Lavish Wedding or You're a Misogynist" 33:52 "The Dumbest Man in the World" 1:02:15 "Why You Suckin' on a Slurpee?"
I miss Joseph When he comes back I wanna hear him talk about #2 cause I KNOW he has a ton of shit to yap about Jordan is a good host thou nice change of pace
I guaran-fuckin-tee when the 2nd guy got the message late at night bro was running randoms on LoL or something Brain just still not grasping what he did and thinking "Oh she had fun, thats good for her"
I'm not gonna lie, the difference in conversation between Post 1 and 2 feels kind of strange to me. I don't know if I'm just being stupid, and if I'm just not getting it then that's my bad. I'm sure you guys are totally fine! But idk, the man hating does stop feeling like a bit when the only thing being discussed in Post 2 is how stupid this guy is, and just glossing over the edit that basically nulled the entire conversation. As opposed to Post 1, where you guys were at least willing to extend an olive branch to someone who imo is being much more unreasonable. I honestly don't know if I'm just taking things incorrectly, and like I said I'm sure you guys are fine regardless! It's just something I've noticed that happens every now and then and it feels strange whenever it does.
"I told my wife we were getting dinner she was cool with it" Ok but clearly she didn't know it was as fancy dinner with drinks, c'mon y'all, she's got a right to be upset
Danny drove the discussion for guy #2 wayyyyy too much. Theres no such thing as "subconscious weaponized incompetence". Intent is literally required. Hes negligent, theres a key difference. Guys 100% can be this stupid and honestly the fact that he didnt do anything to cover his tracks actually makes me believe he really is that stupid. If he wanted a date he would have hid it more. Negligent to his wife's feelings? Yes. Asshole? No. Amanda is 100% the asshole
Damn farfa fell off hard from one story to the next. He was remarkably based on the first one and then, we get a 3-0 for the wrong decision on the second one.
I am so dumb that I would be the guy in #2. I am that oblivious to hints. She baby stepped him into a date night. It started as something completely different from what it ended up being. Like the frog that slowly boils in the pot. That’s entirely on Amanda for being so public about everything.
To the first story: I think the guy is not the asshole, because he gives the opportunity to do that wedding she wants. If it comes to this topic in general I must admit, that I have totally grown up with the opinion that the wedding is THE DAY of the woman. But because I am a perfectionist I planned the things that I wanted since I am 16 and thought about a wedding with 300 people. Like Farfa said, in my culture, it is completely normal to do such big weddings and spend a lot of money in the location and invite hundreds of people you don't even know that good. So I was sure, that I will have a wedding like this until I met my boyfriend, who is german and had not the same idea of wedding, because he does not have that culture. One day I told him about my wishes and plans and he was like "Don't you think that it is too much money for only one day?" It was the first time someone said this to me and I was shocked. It took me months to think about his points and to question why it is important to me. Is it my wish? Or is it the wish of society? I thought that I already broke the rules of society with my non-muslim-boyfriend and thought about why don't I broke another? The fact, that I can spend that money for a loooong honeymoon, a car or nice furniture seems much smarter than to spend it in one day. And as I already said, that I am a perfectionist, my stress level because of me wanting to have THAT Best day in my life, sinked immediatly. I always thought, that it is sad, that my wedding has to be the best day in my life. So I should better plan everything in it's detail. And of course if it is my dream to have a big wedding, I should pay the most for it to get real. Why should my boyfriend/ husband do this, when he doesn't like events like this either?
57:03 hang on if he was messaging his wife the entire time I see no problem with this at all! Men and women can be friends, men and women can become friends. If he hid it from his wife or blindsided his wife then I agree with you it is weird and therefore that is a different story but he didn’t! I’m a bisexual man married to a woman, at least half my friends are women including my best friend, I work in a female dominated profession so if I wasn’t friends with women I’d have very few people to talk to. My wife has more than a few male friends and I’m sure we’ve both done similar things to this more than once without even thinking about it. The instagram and pictures thing is odd but I don’t think he was trying to have a date at all, yes he was having a good time but there’s nothing wrong with that nothing happened.
I think the wife is most likely angry because she hasn’t been taken out for dinner and now if he did it would look like he was doing it out of pity which is still completely understandable from her part. Obviously I don’t know that but if she’s angry in spite of being told what is happening I think it is a fair assumption. Imo all he’s likely guilty of is being complacent in his relationship if she’s mad about him going out to dinner with her friend. I don’t think there was anything sinister there.
I'm totally with Farfa on the wedding stuff. I understand that this is an important day but unless you are wealthy, and i mean wealthy, i can't understand how you can spend an absurd amount of money in this kind of celebration and worse going in debt for it. It's just a single day in your life and once years passed you will get over it. There's no point throwing away money for it. Also you definitly don't need this for a healthy and nice relationship, plenty of divorces are proof that you don't.
For the first guy, I see things from a different angle, as I had my best friend (F) suffer through a lot of drama on their wedding. Why? Because of family pressure to invite certain relatives who ended up ruining the mood on such a special day. With that being said... I would suggest a smaller wedding from another angle, as in: "Consider we may have some bad guests, or that something happens during the wedding and it ends up getting ruined by one egoistical person. Now we are both in debt and we didn't even got the wedding you wanted. A smaller wedding means we also have some room for errors for unexpected events. If the wedding ends up getting ruined we can at least a great honeymoon together."
When are you guys gonna start crawling through a posters reddit history for additional context, maybe to see if they aren't neurotypical. I don't know if a heart emoji means anything its the symbol for liking a post lol. I'd do all of this stuff and not feel any guilt at all and if it upset my wife then what am I even doing with my life where my partner doesn't trust me enough to have fun with a friend? I think people should be closer with their friends and trust their partners more. A date is only a date if you agree it is a date prior to the date, otherwise anything could be a date within any context, it is not a date because it makes the stereotypical media representation of a cishet date. I love sitting with my friends in discord with our tops off and comparing breasts just like casually, platonically, nonsexually, talking about our feelings. Why can't straight people do this?
See that's the big thing for me with this story. It seems to be understood from all sides to not being sexual in any way that there was no cheating involved. The "did you enjoy the goodnight kiss" followed by being more annoyed by it was only a hug clearly shows the wife doesn't think there was anything untoward but is jealous of the attention/romance/fun with someone else. Maybe he hasn't done anything like this with her for awhile which is fair imo but still a bit of a childish response to treating your friend to a nice time.
I don't think second guy was an asshole. Oblivious maybe, a little dumb, but not the asshole. Amanda, on the other hand. Even if the place she picked was a mistake which is already kinda wonky. The getting her picture taken with him by the server, the hug, the messaging him later, and the posting all about it? She was trying to pull some shit for sure.
going from "she's hungry and wants to pick up takeout" to "so then we're eating at a fancy Italian place while my wife is away" is a bad look, surely you guys in the comments understand that right?
To be fair, this wife overracted less than that husband, and this husband did less to try and make up with his partner than that wife. I still think both jealous partners were in the wrong though.
So other people have spoke enough about how you went in too hard on the 2nd guy, but can I draw attention to that Amanda said "[he] treated me better than most of my dates"? That's your excuse to man-hate all you want, it's so sad that a guy that (in good-faith we believe) wasn't trying to get with her was so far above the bar of male interaction for her. Just fuckin... be kind to people, folks,
This was a bad episode. Joseph is really the glue holding this show together because hes willing to actually question his own and the other hosts beliefs. Perfect example 58:20 about case 2. Just straight up saying women shouldn't have male friends. Doesn't matter if you say it in the most soft boy socially conscious way, youre saying some sexist shit. Danny repeating weaponized incompetence makes him sound like a child who learned a new swear word. They literally says if his wife knew about the "date" it would be okay and then the edit reveals she did and they don't comment on it at all. I guess that's just weaponized incompetence as well
Yeah I can see situations here where husband is being clueless or such but it requires the point of view but the boys seem to have settled on that the friend is for certain the sneaky little snake in their garden which I think is a very unfair reading of what we were given that's very can't trust women coded. It's not impossible and happens of course but I don't think we have any evidence at all for that here except maybe the restaurant lookup mishap.
@@peterusmc20 It's not even that what they are saying is sexist. if they were just direct and honest and said "yeah some people don't like men and women hanging out together when only 1 is married" it's the fact that they try to hide it under terminally online therapy talk. Genuinely how could you explain to somebody you don't "consent" to take a picture with them without sounding like you are trying to fuck them and keep it a secret from your wife? It reminds me of a Patton Oswalt bit where just because you use the right language doesn't make you a good person.
They're not saying men and women can't be friends and are clear about it. But it is idiotic to think there aren't different implications to a man and woman relationship. This doesn't exist in a vacuum where everyone views a pair of people as platonic by default. We also don't know the content of the texts. Sure, the Counsil could've talked about it, but they were getting ready to be done after fixating on this for about 30 minutes. With how non-chalant the guy was, I would not be surprised if the texts to his wife were a modest: "We're out eating somewhere, it's nice." The fact that the wife knew about the dinner only highlights that the texts didn't paint the same picture in her mind she consented to.
@@snes90 Just because you say something doesn't mean you believe it. If I said "I support trans ppl but I don't think they should use the same bathrooms as cis ppl" that means I don't support trans ppl because I don't believe they deserve the same rights as me. This is why i called soft boy social conscious speak, they are trying to say something sexist but preface it with basically "im not a sexist but...." There have been many episodes where I disagree with Joseph but I always understand where he's coming from. This episode is bad because it's all mealy mouthed defensive bullshit. A bunch of guys being defensive of their sexism isn't entertaining to listen to.
im totally against you guys for the 2nd guy, i dont see how its anything that bad. Amanda is a long time friend of the wife and she sent her husband to pick her up so theyre probably pretty good friends, if i was the wife i'd be happy that my husband and my good friend are getting along better, and as the husband, you're already being sent to help drive her, whats wrong with helping her talk about the breakup and having a nice dinner to cheer her up, you'd think the wife would be happy that youre helping her good friend. you guys are talking like the guy has to just be a taxi driver and isnt allowed to get anymore involved with her, like unironically men and women can just be friends, especially since he's already married and the woman is someone that his wife should trust. of course its understandable for the wife to be a little upset and jealous at first but idunno have a little trust in your bestie and your husband? amanda is allowed to post nice friend dinner photos on insta too, idk where you guys are getting the image of her being a man stealer from. and why does a man need permission to have nice and long dinners with female friends? Like if the man was bi would he be allowed to have nicer dinners with any of his friends? also its okay to send hearts to your friends especially someone who's had a rough breakup and was opening up to you, theres more forms of love than romantic
Nah yall don't get it. Your wife asks you pick up her newly single friend from the airport and somehow that turns into a fancy Italian dinner, drinks and the single friend posting pictures on Instagram. Even if you had innocent intentions, you lay all the facts out and is a TERRIBLE look. Your wife is upset, you gotta at least take a little bit of responsibility here
You are SOOOO wrong. The guy of the dinner did NOTHING wrong. The girlfriend is jealous for NO REASON. Having a Gf does NOT force you to NOT have social interactions with men, women or whoever. The girlfriend is insecure and that's it. He did nothing wrong, and you are so wrong. What's wrong with the picture??? Even the hug, who cares? Are you THAT INSECURE?
The GF has NO RIGHTS to get angry. Talking, yes, getting angry no. UNLESS there was some previously set boundaries that CANNOT BE "common socially accepted boundaries" because every person is different and every relation is different. So, if it was set before, then yes, she is right. If not, she has to TALK to him and say "I have a problem with this", and if he says "ok, sorry, let's work it out together" it's proper. Otherwise getting angry has no place in this
The 2nd post is the most fake sounding post I’ve ever heard. The fact that Joseph wasn’t on with his advanced hating to point this out is a disappointment.
Nah, I think post #2 is real. At least it is believable to me because I would definitely make the exact same mistakes as the dude in the post, though I also have diagnosed autism and I have been bullied before due to my difficulty in noticing "obvious" social cues and flags, so I am also biased here.
@@obiesenpai3869 oh I also see myself getting in a similar situation too. There are just so many details in the story that make it not like up perfectly and the edit that gets brought up also stands out as something that makes the whole thing sound fake to me.
You gotta stop considering guys that dont get some social cues as assholes im sorry man but like hes not the asshole for not thinking that was romantic. What if it turns out that he was autistic? And then youre litteraly just ableist, like this isnt very unlikely.
*too* There’s a world of difference between a drive-through McDonald’s and a sit-down local Italian restaurant. The guy spent far more time and money than he was ever expected to for what was essentially an acquaintance.
@@TheSchlegexactly. Also a lot of ppl conveniently skipping over that shes newly single, they're grabbing drinks AND that the fancy dinner was ultimately his idea (by nit changing course when offered). Even if hes not the asshole, its a bad look and should apologize to his wife instead of farming reddit engagement
As a Muslim, I think traditional weddings are kind of weird. I know it's a special day but spending what most people would consider reasonable is egregious to me. Like, why would you spend 1000s of dollars when it could barely cost you anything? Idk if this is a common mindset among Muslims but this is how my community did it since I was young.
a lot of people in the comments are already disagreeing with the decision for the second story so i wont add to that. but there's no assholes in that story but if i was to put any malicious intent on anyone id say Amanda was trying to get some free food and drinks from a more expensive restaurant and thats it. also the first story sounds fake to me, it sounds like some guys fan fiction about how "man uses logic and budgets for the wedding, women gets emotional and only wants expensive wedding" its just that the women reacts in all the stereotypical ways in the exact order that they do in these kinds of fake stories like how they only want expensive stuff and the whole "silent treatment" thing. the woman in the story is just made out to be too stupid and too stereotypical it just doesn't sound real. if it is real though it feels very massaged and just feels very off to me in how it was written
A lot of people play Roblox. In the trans community especially there are a lot of ppl that play. I played from age like, 11 to 18 and I'm 29. Now there are ~18-25 year olds or older or younger playing even if you aren't trans I'm sure. The thing about Roblox is is that it's basically just Super Mario Maker but 3d, more sandbox, and a social experience/mmo. It's fun, it's not a bad game by any means, it does have drama though and is arguably a bad company. I remember when I played I was very famous and one of the admins literally harassed me and was abusive to me. I think she still works for the company.
For a native Asian, #2 guy only exists in tv show dramas. How the hell can one gets himself in that situation irl when all Asian women would definitely use men like him to weaponize and ruin his life and anyone around him that they despise. I agree Amanda is the biggest problem here but holy shit you better be smart enough to explain to your wife well. Learn to read the atmosphere for your own safety dude
You guys asked for the opinion of a woman after the first question, and I'm a non-binary person and not a woman, but in the typical man woman relationship dynamic I fit more into the woman's side so I'll say my piece. I feel like you guys are undermining the meaning of a fairytale wedding a bit, a lot of people feel very insecure about their partners love. "Would you love me if I was a worm" is a thing people ask for a reason, no offense a lot of guys fucking suck and a lot of the time it's something you figure out way after you get into a relationship. People especially if they've gone through this kinda thing before want to feel safe and reaffirmed that they're partner truly loves them, and because of our shitty capitalist society a wedding is like the ultimate show of love. It's confirmation that your partner loves you and will love you forever and ever and ever. That's not to say I agree with the woman god no, but I can see a world where going into a little debt is fine for the marriage of your dreams
Wait, who the hell is on the 1’s and 2’s?
RIP Becky, you will be missed o7
Maybe the 1's and 2's have learned to manage themselves. Further proof of how our robotic overlords will soon take over the world.
The absolute irony that Farfa of all people brought an unexpected classiness to this podcast is fucken hilarious
Farfa is certainly something of an enigma 😂
Farfa can be very insightful, as long as he is not streaming.
second guy is literally the protagonist in an adam sandler rom com i'm sorry
Yeah well call it the 51st red fucking flags he missed lmao
That shit is so ao hilarious 😂
Damn, I NEED to hear Joseph's thoughts on story 2, I think what they're missing is Joseph's "Shinigami Eye" ability to sus out things that aren't being said.
Dan and Jordan are so focused on the "Men are dumb" bit to see the bigger picture.
I stand with guy #2, some of us just completely lack brains and don't interpret anything as romantic unless someone tells us it is. And frankly it sounds like a nice thing to do for someone that needs a pick-me-up!
Justice for the childlike innocence of brainlet man
Guy #2 is textbook himbo. Full stop.
American Sitcom Writer want to interview the 2nd guy
I love when the podcast comes out early and I get to listen instead of doing my job
I don't really care about the third guy johnny or something missing, but I'm not quite sure I can sleep tonight without knowing who was on the 1s and 2s for this one
I think Danny is confusing weaponized incompetence with being a himbo. Yes, there are dudes that are that easy-going and overall "dumb." It's an entire archetype of guy for fucks sake. Yes, there is a chance that the dude thought everything was innocent and friendly. The dude in the second post is a HIMBO.
Golden retriever kinda dude
Yeah, like he was messaging his wife, and about he being 90 minutes with her is like, have you never started talking to someone and started having fun? Maybe I'm weird, but I like talking to people, I enjoy talking about the things I like, honestly the guy just seems like an easy going person
I mean not only do I think there is a chance that he thought it was innocent and friendly it seems to me that it WAS innocent and friendly.
Why would you try to seduce your friends husband and then post it on insta and while he had texted the wife to let her know and while she was the one who suggested he pick her up from the airport.
The girl is described as having been through a rough patch and they seemed to have had a nice time and went from acquaintances to fond friends with a shared mutual person in your life. From the lady's perspective having had a surprisingly good night and made a new friend having been through a rough time it makes total sense to text thanks and to make a social media post about it.
Seems very clear that there was no cheating etc done so the issue seems to be jealousy on the part of the wife either due to an insecurity or some other issue in the relationship. Most likely explanation to me is that op doesn't take his wife out much and that the issue is coming from how to her perspective he is treating her friend better than her. Which is a separate issue that is not commented on in the post.
@@peterusmc20 I ended up looking up the post myself. There was an update post where the OP asked his wife what was wrong.
Turns out the wife's mom blew up the entire thing showing the wife the photo and saying that he was cheating on her, and that "this is how affairs start." There was also the fact that Amanda posted the picture without stating that OP and her were friends, and so a lot of comments assumed they were dating. Amanda also doesn't want to take down the picture because it had gotten a shit ton of likes.
OP was definitely not in the wrong here, and he definitely seems like a cool easy-going dude. It sucks that the three stooges basically decided that this wholesome guy was evil before they even started reading the post.
@@obiesenpai3869Well, this is a misandrist podcast so it's only natural.
Finally, an episode with 3 straight guys
The shortage of bussy in this episode is palpable
based farfa on wedding culture
"this giant, almost grotesque display of pure hedonism" will live on in my brain for years
holy shit, THE GlasgowYGO?
"we're not saying men and women can't be friends."
"so what was this guy doing, hanging out and having a good time with this women for 90 minutes???"
come on now.
ok danny's comment about her posting an image "without his consent" and that the guy is in the wrong for not caring is STRAIGHT UP making up shit for this guy to be in the wrong. pretty poor episode just for the second story, i think!
@@Bladexeno The whole thing about Danny saying the dude was "weaponizing incompetence" was so weird too. Like, what that dude is doing was not weaponized Incompetence. There was absolutely no ill intent in that story except for the ill intent that Danny conjured from out of his ass.
Case 2: I kind of hate that that's wrong to do!
It sounds like just the pick-me-up she needed. A friend of your wife is your friend, and you should be allowed to do nice things for them. The response should have been concern for the wife's friend, not jealousy that attention was spent elsewhere.
I genuinely dont see the issue with what the dude did in story 2 and it feels extremely like the "you cant have male/female friends" style insecurity. Like yeah if I was driving a friend home and they accidentally punched in some nice Italian place, unless I didnt have the money for it, I'd 100% eat there. I'm hungry, the food is good, what's the problem? Maybe the picture was a little much I guess but even that is like whatever. Screams of unreasonable insecurity to even suggest it was some romantic date with no further context than "they got food together and had a nice time."
Edit: It might be my autism that makes me feel this way, idk. Just seems like this whole story is a big of an overreaction to nothing at all.
It's not wrong! It's fine and good! There might have needed some extra layers of communication, but you can go out to dinner with friends who are opposite sex!
What I'm reading from this is either wife is jealous as she wants more romance from #2 and maybe he hasn't taken her on a date for a while and she is annoyed that he seems to go that little above and beyond for others but not her which I think is justified but there the issue is that he should spent more time doing fun stuff with her not that he shouldn't go to dinner with her friend. Or that wife doesnt like him being friends and spending time with other girls in general in which case he's not in the wrong at all.
you should extra do nice things for them because she's a friend of your wife, idk how this is a weird thing, like if i was the wife i'd want my husband to be extra nice to my besties.
I don’t think you can get away with a “we don’t think men and women can’t be friends” hand waive when you have the same opinion on men and women having dinner as Mike Pence
I hard disagree on case number 2, simply because I know so many people (including myself) who would completely stumble into this scenario and lack either the knowledge or confidence to get themselves out of it. Re: the point at the end of telling someone "no, that's not okay," while yes you should be able to do that and have those wishes be respected, so many people are just so averse to conflict or so uncomfortable with navigating social boundaries that they'll just freeze up and go along or otherwise not object to it. I feel like y'all really lost the forest for the trees with regards to all of he factors that played into that situation.
Of course, all of that only holds true if we assume he's being completely truthful in that scenario. I agree with a few other commenters pointing out that the story itself feels either fabricated or massaged into a specific narrative that excludes some other things that are probably the real sticking points of the issue at hand.
Yeah, I hard disagree with Danny saying the guy is using weaponized incompetence. Like, I know I miss a lot of "obvious social flags" due to being autistic (what's obvious for others is not obvious to me) and guy #2 just comes across as a himbo who is just trying to be nice.
The problem with scenario #2 is that it's hard to draw a line when you think someone might be coming on to you. I've been in situations where taken women have been (seemingly) hitting on me, and when I've been hit on while in a relationship. Bringing up concerns or pulling away can result in a lot of "check your ego, she wasn't hitting on you" or even "how can you accuse her of coming on to you while you/she is in a relationship??". It can be awkward. Guy 2 handled it terribly, but drawing those lines can get messy.
@@AL-ry5ly that's assuming she was being flirty. If she was being flirty or trying something then why post it on insta etc. its possible sure but it doesn't sound like op thought it was flirty and if the friend was coming out of a rough time she could just be having fun making a new friend. I think it's a extremely cynical view the boys seemed to have settled on that the friend was trying to manipulate the situation in some way. The big issue just seems to be either a social perspective of the wife seeming uncomfortable with her husband being seen with others on social media or that he is taking other girls out or that he isn't taking her out enough. Only the last one is really the husband or the friends fault tbh.
@@AL-ry5lyshe used the word “friend” in her instagram post. If he was single and she did that everyone would be saying “sorry bro she’s not into you”.
Farfa is so well-spoken here
Joesph can never leave ever again. Story 2 was a disaster. There was clear communication what was happening and you should be allowed to have women as friends, end of story.
It is so funny that the two straight guys on the podcast become less normal when the bussy man is on vacation.
People being weird about men and women being friends cook me. 100% internet brain rot.
Its not even internet brain rot, this is just a problem even normal offline people seem to have, this idra that men and women cant interact unless theres a romantic or sexual subtext to it, its fuckin weird @@ducky36F
I super hate the idea of people loving big weddings when it isn’t consensual. It isn’t just for the one person and taking on financial stress in the actual marriage so that strangers can enjoy a party that should be about you. However if the guy says “let’s save up a few more years to have a big wedding” how is that any different than just making payments instead of saving for that same amount of time? He’s not against the idea in general, he just doesn’t like being in debt, which is understandable, but is realistically the same and assuages your wife’s ridiculousness. I’d rather take the best honeymoon ever than a giant wedding
Well because the debt will have interest and will end up being much more expensive over time rather than just paying outright
I feel like learning that a mutual acquaintance shares a lot in common with you over dinner, esp if they’re having a rough time, is a good thing? He wasn’t hiding the dinner from his wife, he didn’t guide her to a fancy restaurant, and what’s bad about her saying that she had a really nice time if it’s the truth and she feels better? This podcast is too straight to function without Joseph here.
The woman in the first story is giving off major red flags, at least from my perspective. Dude says no, sits down with her, and explains his reasoning in a sympathetic way, and her response is to accuse him of "not caring about her happiness," then pout like a toddler and give him the silent treatment.
Now, I'll admit that my viewpoint might be biased on account of being an aroace guy, but I feel like any relationship where you're unable to have a conversation like adults when you disagree on something important is going to fall apart sooner rather than later.
Aroace woman here, imagine basically every piece of media and all your friends and your parents talking about your "special day" when u grow up and get married that's what it's like for a lot of woman. Guy's not an asshole but the woman absolutely feels like she's being told santa isn't real.
How is she supposed to have her dream wedding then getting upset their had to get sold because of her and being bitter and resentful
@@vergillives9890 it's not about her being right it's understanding why she might be acting this way lol
I never thought I'd say this but we need joseph back. come on with that second story
So there was an update on the second story where it came out the whole reason the wife got really upset was because the MIL can in and freaked out about the husband “going behind her back” and having dinner with Amanda, and Amanda being an influencer and such. So in the end it feels like this wouldn’t even have been as big an issue if the MIL didn’t intervene
Woman here: As a woman the one big thing people tell us to look forward to is our wedding. It's like *the* thing. Like EVERYONE will be talking about "oh when i get married" "for my wedding". Your parents will be like "i saved this wine from your birth for your wedding" your friends will be like "oh i would love for this to play at my wedding". The movies you grow up with all build up to a beautiful wedding. it's super fucking annoying as an aroace. But I understand woman 1. Your first wedding is something basically everyone builds up for you and you really want it to be special. I don't think the guy is the asshole for not wanting to go into debt but I absolutely understand why she'd be upset. Like i'm aroace. I don't plan on getting married so I don't plan on having a wedding. And i feel GUILTY about that sometimes because of how much other people have invested into a day I don't plan on having. It's wild man.
It becomes "YOUR WEDDING" until they just become party planner for everyone else/Prom part 2 where you finally become Prom Queen
Hard disagree on the second one. Society is maybe not ready for this, but men and women should be allowed to be friends.
that's not what's going on here, the single friend is clearly up to something and the guy is too dense to realize it
The guy was screwed in everyway if he ate with her hes guilty if he left to a McDonald's hes still guilty because hes spending time with another girl if it was reversed he would still be blamed
@@vergillives9890 nah man, the task was to pick her up from the airport. She wanted food and asked to grab something from a fast food place. HE escalated it to a sit down meal and chose to go to a fancy place when she gave him the out of saying it's too fancy. This is on him
Ngl I see absolutely nothing wrong with what the resturant going guy did except maybe drop your wife a text at the time asking if it's OK. Without having more information about why the wife is so disturbed by it, like having been cheated on in the past etc I think its perfectly normal. Like clearly nothing happened, she is free to call up her friend and ask, and it was posted on Instagram etc it's not like it was shady or whatever. As the dumb guy I am I would be glad my partner made my friend feel welcome etc especially if they were going through a hard time etc. The just from the post which I get is from the guy it comes across as a weird amount of insecurity over what would seem to me as well a funny story.
Wait post edit info that they were messaging during the night then absolutely nothing wrong done. I want my partner to be friends with my friends. I do not think there is any evidence of there being a flirty aspect to this which there could be but I don't see any evidence. I also don't think that the girl was trying to cheat or whatever because clearly she posted it on insta etc.
Yeah they handwave the edit but I think it’s very important. Keeping his wife in the loop in real time vs not telling her until afterwards (or when she found out on instagram) are too very different things.
@@peterusmc20and we dont know how long hes been driving if hes been driving for an hour to pick up the person and waited for 2 hours he was probably starving
Men and women can be friends and eat food without it being romantic, but context matters and this got progressively more suspect as things went on. I find the whole string of events this husband went through to be totally defensible, but at every step where you tell yourself "no, this is fine and normal", you either have to believe that your wife will agree or reconsider if things might have gone a bit too far.
20:47 I think the thing is with weddings is you can find a way to do something nice without blowing the bank. Traditional wedding prices are predatory and you are 100% better off seeking alternatives
There's literally nothing wrong with what happened in the second story except for the friend having the picture taken and posting about it on instragram
Congrats on the honeymoon, Joseph! I hope Jillian and your new wife get along splendidly
I love that robolx is just leaning into the child labor angle
0:00 being a streamer changes your brain
5:11 Ikea's virtual Roblox store
17:12 "Lavish Wedding or You're a Misogynist"
33:52 "The Dumbest Man in the World"
1:02:15 "Why You Suckin' on a Slurpee?"
Oh my god you guys couldn't be more wrong on the second post. Sounds fine to me. Men can have women friends and vice versa.
I miss Joseph
When he comes back I wanna hear him talk about #2 cause I KNOW he has a ton of shit to yap about
Jordan is a good host thou nice change of pace
I guaran-fuckin-tee when the 2nd guy got the message late at night bro was running randoms on LoL or something
Brain just still not grasping what he did and thinking "Oh she had fun, thats good for her"
14:00 "would you still love me if I was a wardrobe"
I'm not gonna lie, the difference in conversation between Post 1 and 2 feels kind of strange to me.
I don't know if I'm just being stupid, and if I'm just not getting it then that's my bad. I'm sure you guys are totally fine! But idk, the man hating does stop feeling like a bit when the only thing being discussed in Post 2 is how stupid this guy is, and just glossing over the edit that basically nulled the entire conversation. As opposed to Post 1, where you guys were at least willing to extend an olive branch to someone who imo is being much more unreasonable.
I honestly don't know if I'm just taking things incorrectly, and like I said I'm sure you guys are fine regardless! It's just something I've noticed that happens every now and then and it feels strange whenever it does.
"I told my wife we were getting dinner she was cool with it"
Ok but clearly she didn't know it was as fancy dinner with drinks, c'mon y'all, she's got a right to be upset
Danny drove the discussion for guy #2 wayyyyy too much. Theres no such thing as "subconscious weaponized incompetence". Intent is literally required. Hes negligent, theres a key difference. Guys 100% can be this stupid and honestly the fact that he didnt do anything to cover his tracks actually makes me believe he really is that stupid. If he wanted a date he would have hid it more. Negligent to his wife's feelings? Yes. Asshole? No. Amanda is 100% the asshole
"Here's my opinion!"
"I'm gonna go outside."
Says the guy on the podcast where all he does is say his opinion, DANIEL.
Damn farfa fell off hard from one story to the next.
He was remarkably based on the first one and then, we get a 3-0 for the wrong decision on the second one.
To give the guy the benefit of the doubt: the default like button for Instagram is ❤
I am so dumb that I would be the guy in #2. I am that oblivious to hints. She baby stepped him into a date night. It started as something completely different from what it ended up being. Like the frog that slowly boils in the pot. That’s entirely on Amanda for being so public about everything.
Someone needs to explain to Jordan what Web 3.0 means.
To the first story: I think the guy is not the asshole, because he gives the opportunity to do that wedding she wants.
If it comes to this topic in general I must admit, that I have totally grown up with the opinion that the wedding is THE DAY of the woman. But because I am a perfectionist I planned the things that I wanted since I am 16 and thought about a wedding with 300 people. Like Farfa said, in my culture, it is completely normal to do such big weddings and spend a lot of money in the location and invite hundreds of people you don't even know that good. So I was sure, that I will have a wedding like this until I met my boyfriend, who is german and had not the same idea of wedding, because he does not have that culture. One day I told him about my wishes and plans and he was like "Don't you think that it is too much money for only one day?" It was the first time someone said this to me and I was shocked. It took me months to think about his points and to question why it is important to me. Is it my wish? Or is it the wish of society? I thought that I already broke the rules of society with my non-muslim-boyfriend and thought about why don't I broke another? The fact, that I can spend that money for a loooong honeymoon, a car or nice furniture seems much smarter than to spend it in one day. And as I already said, that I am a perfectionist, my stress level because of me wanting to have THAT Best day in my life, sinked immediatly. I always thought, that it is sad, that my wedding has to be the best day in my life. So I should better plan everything in it's detail. And of course if it is my dream to have a big wedding, I should pay the most for it to get real. Why should my boyfriend/ husband do this, when he doesn't like events like this either?
The questionnaire for IKEA Roblox applications make me think they're gonna shoot you with the Digitizer from Tron to put you in Roblox.
57:03 hang on if he was messaging his wife the entire time I see no problem with this at all!
Men and women can be friends, men and women can become friends. If he hid it from his wife or blindsided his wife then I agree with you it is weird and therefore that is a different story but he didn’t!
I’m a bisexual man married to a woman, at least half my friends are women including my best friend, I work in a female dominated profession so if I wasn’t friends with women I’d have very few people to talk to. My wife has more than a few male friends and I’m sure we’ve both done similar things to this more than once without even thinking about it.
The instagram and pictures thing is odd but I don’t think he was trying to have a date at all, yes he was having a good time but there’s nothing wrong with that nothing happened.
I think the wife is most likely angry because she hasn’t been taken out for dinner and now if he did it would look like he was doing it out of pity which is still completely understandable from her part. Obviously I don’t know that but if she’s angry in spite of being told what is happening I think it is a fair assumption. Imo all he’s likely guilty of is being complacent in his relationship if she’s mad about him going out to dinner with her friend. I don’t think there was anything sinister there.
yea as a bi i really dont get the big deal
I'm totally with Farfa on the wedding stuff.
I understand that this is an important day but unless you are wealthy, and i mean wealthy, i can't understand how you can spend an absurd amount of money in this kind of celebration and worse going in debt for it. It's just a single day in your life and once years passed you will get over it. There's no point throwing away money for it.
Also you definitly don't need this for a healthy and nice relationship, plenty of divorces are proof that you don't.
For the first guy, I see things from a different angle, as I had my best friend (F) suffer through a lot of drama on their wedding. Why? Because of family pressure to invite certain relatives who ended up ruining the mood on such a special day. With that being said...
I would suggest a smaller wedding from another angle, as in: "Consider we may have some bad guests, or that something happens during the wedding and it ends up getting ruined by one egoistical person. Now we are both in debt and we didn't even got the wedding you wanted. A smaller wedding means we also have some room for errors for unexpected events. If the wedding ends up getting ruined we can at least a great honeymoon together."
When are you guys gonna start crawling through a posters reddit history for additional context, maybe to see if they aren't neurotypical. I don't know if a heart emoji means anything its the symbol for liking a post lol. I'd do all of this stuff and not feel any guilt at all and if it upset my wife then what am I even doing with my life where my partner doesn't trust me enough to have fun with a friend? I think people should be closer with their friends and trust their partners more. A date is only a date if you agree it is a date prior to the date, otherwise anything could be a date within any context, it is not a date because it makes the stereotypical media representation of a cishet date. I love sitting with my friends in discord with our tops off and comparing breasts just like casually, platonically, nonsexually, talking about our feelings. Why can't straight people do this?
See that's the big thing for me with this story. It seems to be understood from all sides to not being sexual in any way that there was no cheating involved. The "did you enjoy the goodnight kiss" followed by being more annoyed by it was only a hug clearly shows the wife doesn't think there was anything untoward but is jealous of the attention/romance/fun with someone else. Maybe he hasn't done anything like this with her for awhile which is fair imo but still a bit of a childish response to treating your friend to a nice time.
most of these posts are on throwaway accounts
yea its such a straight issue omg
I don't think second guy was an asshole. Oblivious maybe, a little dumb, but not the asshole. Amanda, on the other hand. Even if the place she picked was a mistake which is already kinda wonky. The getting her picture taken with him by the server, the hug, the messaging him later, and the posting all about it? She was trying to pull some shit for sure.
going from "she's hungry and wants to pick up takeout" to "so then we're eating at a fancy Italian place while my wife is away" is a bad look, surely you guys in the comments understand that right?
didn't these people shit on the guy on the valentine's episode for overreacting? Now that this wife overreacts... they take her side? what?
To be fair, this wife overracted less than that husband, and this husband did less to try and make up with his partner than that wife. I still think both jealous partners were in the wrong though.
Bro I earn a little less than euros an hour as an agricultural worker, I've gotta get myself hired at IKEA Roblox!
So other people have spoke enough about how you went in too hard on the 2nd guy, but can I draw attention to that Amanda said "[he] treated me better than most of my dates"? That's your excuse to man-hate all you want, it's so sad that a guy that (in good-faith we believe) wasn't trying to get with her was so far above the bar of male interaction for her. Just fuckin... be kind to people, folks,
Week 22 without a George Santos guest appearance
Is that Fartfa of Yugioh fame?
The second post feels like they BOTH tried to cheat and BOTH FUMBLED
LMAOOOO this is my favorite take on this whole thing
neat
EARLY COUNCEL
This was a bad episode. Joseph is really the glue holding this show together because hes willing to actually question his own and the other hosts beliefs.
Perfect example 58:20 about case 2. Just straight up saying women shouldn't have male friends. Doesn't matter if you say it in the most soft boy socially conscious way, youre saying some sexist shit. Danny repeating weaponized incompetence makes him sound like a child who learned a new swear word. They literally says if his wife knew about the "date" it would be okay and then the edit reveals she did and they don't comment on it at all. I guess that's just weaponized incompetence as well
CORRECT! I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Yeah I can see situations here where husband is being clueless or such but it requires the point of view but the boys seem to have settled on that the friend is for certain the sneaky little snake in their garden which I think is a very unfair reading of what we were given that's very can't trust women coded. It's not impossible and happens of course but I don't think we have any evidence at all for that here except maybe the restaurant lookup mishap.
@@peterusmc20 It's not even that what they are saying is sexist. if they were just direct and honest and said "yeah some people don't like men and women hanging out together when only 1 is married" it's the fact that they try to hide it under terminally online therapy talk.
Genuinely how could you explain to somebody you don't "consent" to take a picture with them without sounding like you are trying to fuck them and keep it a secret from your wife?
It reminds me of a Patton Oswalt bit where just because you use the right language doesn't make you a good person.
They're not saying men and women can't be friends and are clear about it. But it is idiotic to think there aren't different implications to a man and woman relationship. This doesn't exist in a vacuum where everyone views a pair of people as platonic by default.
We also don't know the content of the texts. Sure, the Counsil could've talked about it, but they were getting ready to be done after fixating on this for about 30 minutes. With how non-chalant the guy was, I would not be surprised if the texts to his wife were a modest: "We're out eating somewhere, it's nice." The fact that the wife knew about the dinner only highlights that the texts didn't paint the same picture in her mind she consented to.
@@snes90 Just because you say something doesn't mean you believe it. If I said "I support trans ppl but I don't think they should use the same bathrooms as cis ppl" that means I don't support trans ppl because I don't believe they deserve the same rights as me. This is why i called soft boy social conscious speak, they are trying to say something sexist but preface it with basically "im not a sexist but...."
There have been many episodes where I disagree with Joseph but I always understand where he's coming from. This episode is bad because it's all mealy mouthed defensive bullshit. A bunch of guys being defensive of their sexism isn't entertaining to listen to.
im totally against you guys for the 2nd guy, i dont see how its anything that bad. Amanda is a long time friend of the wife and she sent her husband to pick her up so theyre probably pretty good friends, if i was the wife i'd be happy that my husband and my good friend are getting along better, and as the husband, you're already being sent to help drive her, whats wrong with helping her talk about the breakup and having a nice dinner to cheer her up, you'd think the wife would be happy that youre helping her good friend. you guys are talking like the guy has to just be a taxi driver and isnt allowed to get anymore involved with her, like unironically men and women can just be friends, especially since he's already married and the woman is someone that his wife should trust. of course its understandable for the wife to be a little upset and jealous at first but idunno have a little trust in your bestie and your husband? amanda is allowed to post nice friend dinner photos on insta too, idk where you guys are getting the image of her being a man stealer from. and why does a man need permission to have nice and long dinners with female friends? Like if the man was bi would he be allowed to have nicer dinners with any of his friends?
also its okay to send hearts to your friends especially someone who's had a rough breakup and was opening up to you, theres more forms of love than romantic
Nah yall don't get it. Your wife asks you pick up her newly single friend from the airport and somehow that turns into a fancy Italian dinner, drinks and the single friend posting pictures on Instagram. Even if you had innocent intentions, you lay all the facts out and is a TERRIBLE look. Your wife is upset, you gotta at least take a little bit of responsibility here
10 whole ass minutes about roblox jobs, cmon now.
You are SOOOO wrong. The guy of the dinner did NOTHING wrong. The girlfriend is jealous for NO REASON. Having a Gf does NOT force you to NOT have social interactions with men, women or whoever. The girlfriend is insecure and that's it. He did nothing wrong, and you are so wrong. What's wrong with the picture??? Even the hug, who cares? Are you THAT INSECURE?
The GF has NO RIGHTS to get angry. Talking, yes, getting angry no. UNLESS there was some previously set boundaries that CANNOT BE "common socially accepted boundaries" because every person is different and every relation is different. So, if it was set before, then yes, she is right. If not, she has to TALK to him and say "I have a problem with this", and if he says "ok, sorry, let's work it out together" it's proper. Otherwise getting angry has no place in this
The 2nd post is the most fake sounding post I’ve ever heard. The fact that Joseph wasn’t on with his advanced hating to point this out is a disappointment.
Nah, I think post #2 is real. At least it is believable to me because I would definitely make the exact same mistakes as the dude in the post, though I also have diagnosed autism and I have been bullied before due to my difficulty in noticing "obvious" social cues and flags, so I am also biased here.
@@obiesenpai3869 oh I also see myself getting in a similar situation too. There are just so many details in the story that make it not like up perfectly and the edit that gets brought up also stands out as something that makes the whole thing sound fake to me.
@@deshtom Not every story is gonna be retold with perfect memory. Especially if you originally saw the whole thing as "no big deal."
bathmech pop the baby poggers
You gotta stop considering guys that dont get some social cues as assholes im sorry man but like hes not the asshole for not thinking that was romantic. What if it turns out that he was autistic? And then youre litteraly just ableist, like this isnt very unlikely.
"this place is to fancy" oh c'mon what are you all 16? it's a place to eat. the location means nothing
*too*
There’s a world of difference between a drive-through McDonald’s and a sit-down local Italian restaurant.
The guy spent far more time and money than he was ever expected to for what was essentially an acquaintance.
Me, a billionaire, trying to take my friend to a place in Vegas
@@TheSchlegexactly. Also a lot of ppl conveniently skipping over that shes newly single, they're grabbing drinks AND that the fancy dinner was ultimately his idea (by nit changing course when offered). Even if hes not the asshole, its a bad look and should apologize to his wife instead of farming reddit engagement
As a Muslim, I think traditional weddings are kind of weird. I know it's a special day but spending what most people would consider reasonable is egregious to me. Like, why would you spend 1000s of dollars when it could barely cost you anything?
Idk if this is a common mindset among Muslims but this is how my community did it since I was young.
It happens in a lot of cultures.
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a lot of people in the comments are already disagreeing with the decision for the second story so i wont add to that. but there's no assholes in that story but if i was to put any malicious intent on anyone id say Amanda was trying to get some free food and drinks from a more expensive restaurant and thats it.
also the first story sounds fake to me, it sounds like some guys fan fiction about how "man uses logic and budgets for the wedding, women gets emotional and only wants expensive wedding" its just that the women reacts in all the stereotypical ways in the exact order that they do in these kinds of fake stories like how they only want expensive stuff and the whole "silent treatment" thing. the woman in the story is just made out to be too stupid and too stereotypical it just doesn't sound real. if it is real though it feels very massaged and just feels very off to me in how it was written
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A lot of people play Roblox. In the trans community especially there are a lot of ppl that play. I played from age like, 11 to 18 and I'm 29. Now there are ~18-25 year olds or older or younger playing even if you aren't trans I'm sure. The thing about Roblox is is that it's basically just Super Mario Maker but 3d, more sandbox, and a social experience/mmo. It's fun, it's not a bad game by any means, it does have drama though and is arguably a bad company. I remember when I played I was very famous and one of the admins literally harassed me and was abusive to me. I think she still works for the company.
For a native Asian, #2 guy only exists in tv show dramas. How the hell can one gets himself in that situation irl when all Asian women would definitely use men like him to weaponize and ruin his life and anyone around him that they despise. I agree Amanda is the biggest problem here but holy shit you better be smart enough to explain to your wife well. Learn to read the atmosphere for your own safety dude
and he did! see the updates
You guys asked for the opinion of a woman after the first question, and I'm a non-binary person and not a woman, but in the typical man woman relationship dynamic I fit more into the woman's side so I'll say my piece.
I feel like you guys are undermining the meaning of a fairytale wedding a bit, a lot of people feel very insecure about their partners love. "Would you love me if I was a worm" is a thing people ask for a reason, no offense a lot of guys fucking suck and a lot of the time it's something you figure out way after you get into a relationship. People especially if they've gone through this kinda thing before want to feel safe and reaffirmed that they're partner truly loves them, and because of our shitty capitalist society a wedding is like the ultimate show of love. It's confirmation that your partner loves you and will love you forever and ever and ever.
That's not to say I agree with the woman god no, but I can see a world where going into a little debt is fine for the marriage of your dreams
DANNY IS LITERALY ALWAYS CORECT