How to setup 3D Glasses in VPX!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I show you how to setup Anaglyph 3D in Visual Pinball X (VPX)!
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The 10.8 OpenGL version (currently in beta on 11.20.2023) is a drag and drop install. The new anaglyphic modes and POV options are incredible.
I'll be checking this out and doing a potential follow-up video as suggested by @hoganzeros3572. Thanks for posting your initial thoughts!
I’ve tried the native on the latest version of 10.8 and the colors being washed out is a non starter. Am I crazy or does reshade have far better color without being washed out?
Looks very flat to me compared to re-shade in 10.7. Hmmmmm.
Great video, I totally understand the social side of this, playing with freinds and still seeing your own cab and surroundings. As for me for some reason that is beyond me, my family and friends don't understand my fascination for pinball. So it's VR for me all the way.
I can see when the Quest 3 comes out and AR becomes more popular, we will have all the classic tables in AR standing in our own room. That will be so cool.
I hope you will still be making a video covering pinball in VR and discribing your experience. I understand these aren't the easiest of videos to make because all you can really do is discribe what you are seeing.
VR pinball really needs promoting, VPX VR is already there with all the classic tables, and Zen needs encouraging to release all their tables in VR.
Another plus of VR is that you don't need the expense of building a full cab, you can build a much easier stubby cab. There's loads of examples out there.
Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Yep, AR would be awesome.... loving VR too....will look to do some VR coverage, it's on the list.... 👍
@@SpaciesArcade VR is great but I built my own custom cabinet recently and cant go back to VR. I have a 600 watt system powering 4 exciters, 1 bass shaker, 1 subwoofer and the 2 main speakers with a 43" 120hz G-Sync Samsung playfield. All Dayton and Kenwood speakers. You actually feels the ball rolling to the front and even when you hit the flippers not to mention the amazing sound effects coming from the bumpers and what not. Totally unreal experience that I cannot do without now.
It's always a good day when there is a new Spacies vid.
Love it! I need to try this on my Epson TW9400 in the theatre room with actual Active 3D glasses in desktop mode.
Should work - Let me know how you go!
Thanks for the video. I just ordered 3 . 2 for over the glasses and 1 standard.
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve got mine all set up and dialed in now. Looks incredible!
Awesome!!
Excellent video, will be trying this out as soon as I get my hands on some glasses.
This video gave me the will to build my first compact pincab. I love vpvr but sometimes I don't feel like putting it on etc, especially if I've guests. Pinball always brings guests somehow, be it real or virtual lol
what about color when using anaglyph? I assum the picture quality and color will be worse then using my OLED in flat mode?
Yes it is slightly degraded however with these glasses and settings it is the best colour reproduction I have seen to date.
Does all of this apply to people just running a single screen desktop setup in that sloping back view 1:23 you mentioned at the start? Because I don't have a cabinet, but I really want to try this out! Thankyou for the video and all the thorough information provided 👍
I'm also wondering (just out of curiosity, because I hope to have a cab one day) if this can be used in conjunction with a Microsoft Kinect device, like I have seen in some rare cabs, that also tracks your head and lets you kind of see around the payfiled objects?
Because for me, if both can be combined, then I imagine that it might go that extra step to tricking the mind that your playing a real table, at least when your're in the moment!
Yes! This will work for standard desktop view as well. Similar effect to watching a 3D movie that supports Anaglyph 3D glasses. You'll get 3d depth perception although things won't fly out of the screen at you like in a movie... :P Cheers!
@@SpaciesArcade ah that's great news! Thanks for your reply 👍I just looked up those particular glasses you mentioned (TriOviz InfiColor 3D Glasses) because they look really solid and comfortable, thankyou for that. Good news is I found some on Ebay, but unfortunately only shipping from the US (I'm in Australia) so the shipping cost adds quite a bit to the price. Did you manage to get yours from somewhere locally ?
I had to import mine as well unfortunately - but I bought four pairs to make the shipping worthwhile! Other pairs can be used by other people watching so it's more social and/or for a few spares!@@LanceTroll777
@@SpaciesArcade Haha, yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking, not much fun for others if only getting one pair, so was definitely keen to get more than one.
I see a listing for 4 pairs, probably the same one you bought, I guess I'll grab a set of those. Still works out cheaper than buying the same amount from Amazon.
I appreciate the follow up on this, thanks for clarifying the details of your purchase 👍Cheers 🍻
thanks for the great video. it's still the best out there and it's getting recommended every day. Any chance for a follow up? I'd like to seeyour thoughts on the newest VPX version's 3D integration compared to reshade. Also, a quick tutorial about making a hot key to turn 3d on/off like you mentioned would be awesome, too!
Thanks for your kind comments, most appreciated. I'll add those items to the list for a potential follow-up 👍
Great video and ordered a set of TrioVis before I finished watching 😎
Can I ask a really stupid question? If I want to play without the 3D (say if I'm playing with someone who doesn't like it or I need to give my eyes a break), can it be easily disabled on the fly?
I.e is it a simple key stroke to switch between 3D and no 3D?
Cheers mate.
Yes, you can assign a hot key in reshade to easily switch it (reshade) on or off. Some people then assign the hot key to a physical button on their cab to easily switch without needing a keyboard. Thanks for your kind comments. 👍 Cheers!
@@SpaciesArcade ah yes excellent thank you. Looks like I'll be using my shift-button function to assign a combination of buttons on the front of my cab.
Thanks for your response, and you're welcome 😎 Greetings from across the pond (presumably) 👍
I managed to get the native 3D anaglyph feature working in VPX and I really enjoyed the added depth it gave to the tables. The only thing I didn't like was how badly the default colors of the tables were altered. Does the reshade shader method minimize how much the original color is changed?
With the TriOviz glasses and the shader set to the emulation for those glasses as per the video, you will get effectively 99% original colors. It's only slightly dimmed due to the glasses lenses themselves however the color reproduction is bang on. It's massively better than when I had it on just one of the generic Green/Magenta glasses option - that looked 'chromatic' where the colors were not accurate. With the latest update and native support for the TriOviz glasses color it is now near perfect. 👍
Got it working looks much better than VPX 3d.
I tried the setup with the TriOviz glasses, but I am not getting to work. Tried your settings as a starling point but no good 3D effect is happening. There seems to be little to no dept and the picture is fuzzy.
Any tips?
First of all let me say this looks amazing, and thank you so much dude for this video - it really is a game changer in terms of the immersion. ZPD was the biggest key for me in terms of getting things to look "right" and I think the colors still look pretty good. Do you happen to know though if there's a way to tweak individual table settings? I got my settings to the point where most games are good, but on some the elements pop out too much and look detached from the playfield. Also, some tables don't seem to use the reshade depth settings at all - is it something native to the table script? Can those be made to work with this? Thank you again!
Yep, each table has a slightly different effect. I'm unsure why, however it does appear to be the way each table has been authored. I don't know how to adjust the more problematic tables in VPX itself, however fortunately there are not a lot like that.
There may be a way to have custom settings per table by using a frontend like Pinballx that supports different version vpx.exe's per table and potentially swapping out the exe's to a batch file that copies the reshade settings for that specific table first then runs vpx. Not sure if that is possible so you may want to check over at the gameex forums and ask there about that. Cheers
Thanks!
Yeah for some reason when I hit performance mode it fails to compile? Says Floating point division by zero etc.
Fixed it by deleting all my Reshade .ini files and reinstalling SuperDepth3D and Reshade, just in case anyone was having a similar compile issue with SuperDepth. Plays good now although I still have some FPS issues with some tables, particularly VPW's Red and Ted's Roadshow for some reason. I don't know if it's because there's seemingly a lot of 3D elements in that table?
Great video and great explanition how to config anaglyph method for 2D TV users. But I like to play in 3D TV wearing passive glasses with reshade renderization line interlaced. Is much better.
Loving 3d! Will this work with VPX 10.8 now? Thanks and cheers!
Yes, and version 10.8 has some improved 3d anaglyph options built in so some are not using reshade anymore and just use the vpx inbuilt options. I tried both but I'm still using reshade as there are more options to dial in the effect.
Thanks for the video! After the reshade compiled, it did not convert my screen into stereo mode like yours did at 7:05. I got no "Bam" moment. Not sure why its not working like yours. I have a newer version though.
It's a little hard to tell why that might be without more info/screenshots. You can head over to our Discord server and ask on there for possible help on the issue. discord.gg/48WtkjY Cheers
I keep getting an error "Shader Failed To Compile" happens on all tables I try?
Great tutorial. One question, do you have to go through the setup for every table or is this a global setup for all tables. Thanks.
It's a global setup although some tables will be slightly better than others, but generally, once you have it dialled in you can enjoy all tables in anaglyph 3D. Cheers 👍
Excellent, thanks much.
Does anyone have an issue with playing games without reshade? When I turn off reshade the tables layers get messed up and the ball will show yp underneath the playfield or sometimes you can see the balls in the trough. On IJ the ball goes under the inserts.
I tried installing reshade on another version of VPX renamed but it still launches with all VPX exe.
Can head tracking be used with this, so that you can look around the table and it will shift to reveal or hide objects? Or is the 3D effect “fixed” and doesn’t change no matter where you’re looking from?
Thanks
Great, thanks for the video! Which vpx version do you need?
Well because it uses the external reshader any of the latest releases should work fine. I was using a 10.7 beta version for this video. 10.8 has just been released recently which should work fine. You can get the latest beta here: github.com/vpinball/vpinball/releases/tag/v10.8.0-1138-fff5f9d
reshade failed to create graphics pipeline for pass 5 in technique.
Had it working perfectly in VPX but now I get this error and will not compile depth
I responded in Discord, cheers
I have been wanting to try this for some time and couldnt find how to make the red/green work. I love VR but having a cabinet always is the better way to play, more comfortable for longer, more real etc (and I am a huge fan of VR). I went all in, ordered the special glasses you reccommend (from USA, none in the UK sadly :( ) and now have a question. Does this work with Pinball FX and any other tables. I will probably just try it, but thought it worth asking. Love this community of pinball enthusiasts.
Unfortunately it doesn't work on PinballFX....yet....I keep putting my two cents into them to do what ever they need to do so it will work. We'll just have to wait and see if they do. For now though enjoy it on all the great VPX tables. 👍
Thanks for the reply. I am having some problems, I was disappointed with the result when I first set it up and then by accident my playfield was on the backglass and all of a sudden it looked awesome. After that initial set up, I cant figure out how to get the settings up again, I guess its a key config the web site for reshade says Shift F2 but that brings up a vp menu. How do you get to adjust the settings again after that initial please.
@@colinparnell5815 Press the Home button to get the re-shade menu up. If you then can't see your settings make sure you are not in Performance Mode (click the checkbox). Cheers
Have you tried this with those polarized grey glasses you get at the movies?
when installing reshade, is the 3d mode always on with vpx or is can i switch between the 2d and 3d mode?, Thanks for the nice tutorial :)
You can set a key in reshade settings to enable/disable shaders. Some people wire up a button to this key so they can switch using hardware. I've got it set to the ~Tilde key, so I can turn on/off with that key. I might setup a button one day although right now I'm defaulting to ON as I'm playing all VPX tables in 3D as my preferred option...
Nice tutorial. Do you notice any performance hit, like lower fps, or lag?
No noticeable FPS hit... I'm only running a 1080TI with a 3GHZ I5....However I'm also only running at 1080p and not 4k. So it didn't seem to make any difference to the frames.
@@SpaciesArcade Good to hear definetly something I want to try in my cab also:)
You know a program or app that allows you to convert from 2D to 3D on your PC. I only have LG passive lenses.
You need a compatible 3D TV for those glases.
My cabinet is in portrait, every thing moves up and down, not side to side. I thought my eyes were going to fall out of my head after 1hr trying! The tables look better just with the glasses🤣
What setting to not get so much separation on the side rails?😋
any chance of a BAM kinect tutorial with VPX? thank you!
Probably not something I will setup however I may discuss this further....
Do you need a special screen/monitor for this to work? Im using an old hd tv in my cap, 😊Thanks in advance
No special monitor required. I'm using a standard TV screen running at 60hz. Cheers
great video!!! until now i wasn't be able to use kinect in VPX only in FP, but the best experience i get is the kinect + 3d anaglyph, due the hype!m i'm looking for a 3d momnitor or tv capable of vertical 3D! is it possible?, regards and theanks for the video! it's a must!
I don't have one, but the old LG 3D LCD TVs with "Cinema 3D (FPR)" mode should work in vertical 3D as they use circular polarised passive 3D glasses which means it doesn't matter if the screen is rotated. Some 3D TVs seem to use linear polarised glasses which becomes a problem when rotating, however there is a fix that you can do by sticking a screen protector film over each lens which seems to cancel out the polarisation (mostly) but can have odd rainbow effects.
Unfortunately most of the 3D TVs were only 1080p, and the 4K ones may have the rotation issue depending on what polarisation they use in the glasses (or active/passive).
When you do test it out, keep in mind that you may need to set "use y axis" depending on your windows orientation. Also experiment with 3D modes top/bottom (over/under) vs side by side vs interlaced, as top/bottom is supposedly slightly higher resolution in 3D since side by side loses half of it resolution on one axis during the TV conversion process to 3D. Its a bit hard to explain when you start adding in monitor rotation settings, but basically switch between the three modes and hopefully one mode should look slightly clearer.
@@Fontgod really appreciate the answer!, I will look for one of those Lg cinema 3d tv’s
since acer and asus are launching this year monitor and laptops with 3d without glasses, seems there is a possibility of seen another effort for being to life the 3d, I hope so! If no I’m sure in some years we will see Vpx in Ar modes, thanks again bro!
@@mercury7912 Yeah it would be nice to see a consumer 40-43" 4K or even 8K TV again with today's TV technology. A shame they went the way of the dinosaur, there are still some larger medical screens for 3D but super expensive.
I'd link you to some sites, but Spacie seems to be blackholing any messages with links in them. (I wrote the original tutorial 18 months ago at VP Forums to get reshade/superdepth3D running for VPX, but unable to link back to it here unfortunately) . Maybe Spacie will see my message and unblock them.
So Im running a 3 screen cab. I dont see the 3d overlay like you show in your video. When I select SuperDepth3D no "global preprocessor definitions" panel shows up. Im literally only in the first step and somehow lost. Any help?
Not sure, would need more info. Head over to our discord server and ask there as you can share any screenshots or other info with our community that may be able to assist. Discord invite: discord.gg/48WtkjY
@@SpaciesArcade got it figured out. First step was unchecking performance mode. Then had to flip the axis since I run in landscape. Joined the Discord but I did get it all figured out. Awesomeness.
@@doughnut101 Ah yes the performance mode would have hidden it. Great! Glad you worked it out! Thanks for sharing your fix in case others hit the same problem. Welcome also to the discord server! Get those 3D glasses on! 😀