Demi Lovato EXPOSES Wilmer Valderrama for GROOMING Her
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#demilovato has a new song titled #29 which is all about her relationship with #WilmerValderrama , So let's get into it.
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At that age, I was also crushing on an older man, and I went far as to tell him how I felt. This man was passed 30; of course, I did not care, but he did. This man broke my heart, and now that I am 28, I am so glad he did. I now respect guys who can shut down a young girl no matter how many times she pursues him.
Yes I had a lot of crushes on men who were in their late twenties-early thirties when I was 18/19. I’m 24 now and look back at that stage of my life and I’m glad my mom and dad kept me protected because I was def very naive and innocent. Legal in the eyes of the law but so young and clueless. It’s the perfect age for a grown man to take advantage and groom
@@clorozweepvmundosalazar5153 reminds me of a 28 y/o man that had a young DAUGHTER, and he was talking to me when I was 18. I met him at a rave. He became very verbally aggressive to me when I refused to have sex with him. He also told me how he wanted me to call him ‘daddy’ and told me he liked me cause how petite my body was and my age 🤢 I was flattered back then. But I’m glad I got red flags and got creeped out when I saw how upset he got when I rejected having sex with him. It’s fucked up too cause he had given me his jacket when I was cold at the rave we were at and I left my wallet in there. Later, his friend told me that the dude stole my $ because he was pissed I didn’t sleep with him. The 36 y/o friend gave me me back my wallet w/ my ID and then asked if I wanted to stay and hook up. He has a wife and kids.
@@clorozweepvmundosalazar5153 Well said.
When working with the youth or people that you just have more authority over, you recieve training where they specifically tell you "hey, the people under you might develop feelings for you. It's natural. Don't abuse the relationship you have with these teens, young adults, or the people you're helping get out of a bad situation. You have this sort of Halo effect over you." I feel like more people should recieve this training. If it's truly fate and things are truly meant to be, that 16yo will still be there when she's older. Till then, go away. People are so controlling...
@@kaurov4411 nothing wrong with liking older men. But let's be honest here, all (no I won't use the word most or even some) older male young woman relationships dynamics are predatory and situations ripe for abuse to take place. And abuse normally does take place. Much older people have way more experience that makes it way too easy for them to manipulate their partners. And as is the nature of humans, if they can they will. I've dated Older men. Most of the time I felt gross doing it because It quickly dawned on me that oh, this person doesn't like me for me. They just see an empty vessel that they can occupy and mark up. Someone they can turn into whatever they want. They want a femmebot. Not a partner. They want control. A slave. Not love. Not a relationship. It's gross. Also, when too many older men begin preying on younger women it throws things off. It's just bad all around
Wilmer has a history of dating young, vulnerable girls. Not only vulnerable because of their age, but also because of their issues with addiction and mental health etc
Exactly and it is gross.
Absolutely disgusting...
Yep immediately thought of lindsay
It’s because there are seriously guys out there that think they need to do a Disney “save the girl” mentality. It’s gross that they can’t be a man when they NEED to be, so they will find someone vulnerable to fulfill their own needs.
I remember the time when he was with Mandy Moore when she was up and coming. Vulnerable girls is right.
This has happened to MANY of us, and we don’t realize how horrible it is until we are older. It’s disgusting.
Yup
What’s so horrible about a legal aged relationship? She was far beyond her years, not your average 18yr at old! She lies and says 17 you were 29, Bitch you met at 17, he ran to the hills from her until she was 18, she stated this her self that he wanted nothing to do with her and she was relentless about having him but now the physcopath wants clout so she write and out right lie and makes
It a song! She not talented, she’s destroyed herself, she doesn’t know if she’s coming or going if she’s up or down she’s a shit show attention seeking ho who will say and do
Anything for a fix
Of attention bc lord knows she can’t act and her singing is just yelling and she simply lost it she has zero talent and she has herself to blame! Day late and a dollar short demdogg go away no cares about your deceitful stories you make up in ur sick him her it she he head
Stop trying your hardest to seduce way older men than you then, problem solved mostly.
I pray my daughter doesnt fall into the hands of some old ass creep, but not only that... i hope my daughter doesnt go after 30 yr olds when shes 17,18,19....
Not because that excuses a man in any way(i am 33 now and i honestly cant understand why a man my age would even look at young ladies, practically kids) but i also had to lie about my age when i was 19, i said i was 23 (i came clean almost immediately) but thats what i had to do to get my wife's attention... why??? Because dmbass little girls ignore guys their age, they feel "mature" and chase older men! Why??? Just why??? Older men that seek young girls arent looking to take em serious, yhey are looking to use and take advantage, and i fking hate that because i myself have a daughter!
@@apolinarcaborca_elrojo7878 im a boy but im super into older men, and i can tell you it is from a place of insecurity, i have always felt unsafe with people my age. If it isn´t that, then it is most likely daddy issues. Teach your precious daughter to be confident and build up trust with her so she tells you things when wrong and help her get through them. If not, she´ll fall into the hands of a creep, like i did. And the worst thing is i didn´t regret it although i do know it is wrong. But that is my experience, if YOUR daughter falls into the hands of a creep she could end up sjuicidal, dysphoric, heartbroken, hurt. And with all these things come things like being needy for older mens attention, or male attention in general. So my ADVICE as a 17 year old boy who likes 30 (plus) year olds, keep her self esteem UP, keep her feeling LOVED, keep her trusting you, keep her safe, build comfort around vulnerability, and don´t get angry with her when she does things wrong. She won´t learn, we don´t learn as humans from mistakes with aggreesiveness or violence. Teach her, tell her the wrongs. And i wish my parents told me how older men would treat me, not with love but just something to cum into. You don´t want that for your daughter? teach her, nurture, keep her safe, love her. i can´t say it enough..... I´m sending you love and well wishes 😁
I was 15 and dated a 23 year old. I couldn’t see how wrong it was at the time no matter how much my mother explained it to me. But now that I’m 23, I couldn’t even imagine being interested in a 15 year old. Like it literally makes me squirm and cringe from disgust. I saw things in such a different light because my brain had developed. This is why grooming is so fucked up, they’re intellectually mature enough to know it’s wrong yet still choose to engage in the behavior
Technically your brain is still developing love. The prefrontal cortex doesn't stop developing until you reach 25.❤️
@@Summerlove23 still old enough to know better, contextually.
Literally the same exact situation with me lol. I was with him for almost 2 years before my mom got law enforcement involved. I lost my virginity to him. I was 15, he was 23. Once I turned 17 I finally found the courage to cut him out my life and move on, after that I ended up meeting another boy in my senior year of high school and we’ve been together for almost 6 years now. After turning 23 this year I look back and I think about it a lot, like what would I a 23 year old even have in common with a 15 year old? I’m old enough to vote and go out clubbing and drink alcohol legally not to mention have my own place, get married, start a family if I wanted to while they would be focusing on getting there permit and doing homework and chores. I would be doing college while they would probably be in their freshman or sophomore year of high school. I can never see myself being romantically interested in someone that age, not even being friends since that’s how me and him started out. I don’t hate him, but I do hate what he did to me only cause I can never get that innocence I lost to him back. Now I’m stuck with trauma instead, had to go to therapy for it.
whew the accuracy
Lol you should hear from my mom's mouth what she thinks I was "old enough" for at 16 years old - things that I wasn't ok with. 😬 So, my mom and I no longer speak. 😌
turning the same age as your groomer/abuser is definitely a super eye opening moment. i’m glad it’s being talked about more.
Abuser???
Same. We need to have more conversations about it. It’s so weird & gross.
@@julcsikocsis2162 groomers are abusers.
Imagine pursuing an online relationship as a 22 year old with a 16-17 year old. When I turned 22, I realized just how predatory he was. I don’t hold a grudge against this person, but I can’t wrap my mind around it.
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Her talking about being 29 and realizing how inappropriate and predatory it was for Wilmer to have dated her as a teenager was relatable.
Back in my teens and early 20s, I felt flattered when an older guy liked me, and believed it was because of my 'maturity' 🙄🤦♀️ At 25 I had my daughter, and it made me perceive those relationships/encounters in a different light.
Same... I look at it totally different
I don't even have any kids but I'm realizing the weirdness of it now that I'm 23. 18 year olds are basically babies to me. They're still kids. They still act like kids most of the time. They're clearly not emotionally mature enough to date someone older. I'm actually emotionally immature and its even weird for me so I imagine for an emotionally mature twenty something, its even worse. My cousin turns 18 just 3 days after I turn 24 in February 2023 and I can't imagine her dating someone my age. Yuck. 😬
@@Mskittenlover12 it's just for sex
@Bla bla bla keep telling yourself that 🤢IMO there's too much of an age gap there
Same i was 19-21 talking to a guy who was 25 years older. When i stopped talking to him and started talking to my now husband i realized how gross it was. Yes i was "legal" but barely and i feel very much groomed
This lie that women “mature” faster than men is toxic. Young women see themselves as more mature than the men their age because higher expectations are placed on women. Women are not more mature than men in their teens, men are just allowed to show immature behavior. A young woman is not matured enough mentally to date a guy with more sexual experience. It could be traumatic
Perfectly said
YES! Scream it from the rooftops you hit the nail on the head!!
@@lucasessman1910 that reason is because you are gay
Yeah, and a teenager thinks they are mature, but the adult WAS a teenager and KNOW they arent mature.
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Seeing everyone having such relatable stories is so comforting but also so sad . We got this y’all
Thank you 🙏🏼🩵
How is Howard Stern not cancelled. He is one of the worst when it’s comes to misogyny. He is horrible
maybe he is an "untouchable"
Agree and Agree.
He talks trash about anyone who doesn't want to appear on his show.
Because misogyny is the most normalised form of oppression. Just look at how many supposedly "woke" men are defending Andrew Tate rn.
White males don’t get cancelled
Howard Stern is so disrespectful, inappropriate, and super creepy! I am glad that Demi spoke up about this. Creepy men need to be called out on their sick behavior!!!
A man I am googling past and noticed predatory behavior of men has always been they hide with normal people. It's just now being talked about once we had rich country and time to think
Women went on that show literally knowing his "disrespectful behavior". He would literally throw bolony on their naked derriere. Who's creepier? 🤦♂️
I was 17 and he was 28. For years i thought this relationship was the healthiest, most loving relationship. I would never talk trash about him and never let anybody talking down about him. It wasn't until I learned what consent and grooming really was that I was angry and sad. He still tried to contact me and I called him out. I told him I stayed cause I didn't love myself. I ain't heard from him since.
I was 14, he was 28. Now we are 20 and he’s 35 next month. The abuse was awful, and I’m finally leaving. It’s so confusing, but it makes me feel relieved someone is talking about it without shame. You feel so embarrassed and like you asked for it
That’s horrible. I am 29 and that is truly horrifying babe. Please get out
Horrible. Never the younger persons fault. I'm so glad you are speaking up and know your worth more. 💖
That is literally child abuse, especially if you were physical. You need to file a case on that asap.
growing up as an ugly girl, it was beyond flattering to receive compliments from an older guy. i thought i was so special for someone that age to even want to be with me. and its so so sad how naive i was, and demi's song hits it right on the nail.
@@byunniq9060 why?
@@aoife08619 Demi is crazy
I can relate to this so much, you think you know it all but you don’t
@@highimally3520 what child actor that ran through Disney wasn't? Like don't just say she's rude or crazy give examples
It’s so unfortunate how many girls relate to this. I hope and pray if I ever have a daughter I’m able to find the right words and guidance so she doesn’t make the same mistakes as me.
Im so glad she said something, because there's many of us that were groomed by adults when we were teenagers.
I was just thinking that! I look back to so many inappropriate things that happened to me that I only recognized as inappropriate as an adult. Scary
I know :( I had a friend who often had older boyfriends like in their twenties when she was barely 14/15. At the time I remember thinking it was kind of weird but now as someone who is their 20s I see it as how truly disturbing and predatory it really is. People need to talk about this more because silence is what allows this behavior to continue.
Was she groomed?? She went to his house cos she thought was cute. 17 and 18 are not children. In my country 16 ur an adult. Can get my own house. Get Married have a child, get a job and drive a car. Teens r not innocent and they know fine well what they're doing. Yeah it's a massive age gap but come on he's not just to blame. And it's a fact that men prefer younger women why donu think women try so bad to look younger. To still be attractive to men
@@laurajomcnaughton853 please stay at least 50 feet away from schools and minors
Yesss exactly!!! And we didn't knew at the time!
I feel like I need to put this out there, but predatory behaviors dont stop being an issue when a girl turns 18. I just recently turned 24 and let me tell you last year I made the mistake of dating a few men in their late 30's early 40's. Yes im capable of consent but after getting out of that relationship and got some clarity in my singlehood i realized I was really only being pursued because in his/ their minds I was still mold-able and easier to influence. These men were at MUCH different stages in their lives and they hold a lot more power which in turn made me feel subconsciously inferior and they KNOW that. They search it out. After getting away it became so obvious they only dated girls that were super young. So girls please be careful with who you pursue. Older men arent always more mature like were taught to think, and predators come in all shapes and sizes.
Huge reason why sugar bowl is so dangerous yet the public sees young women as preying on older men. Power, age, experience imbalance is taking advantage.
100% spot on. I was 23 and he was 41 (and a doctor). I was naïve, impressionable, inexperienced and he was manipulative and seeking out young women. Hindsight is 20/20 and you live and you learn, but I’m still healing from the emotional abuse. Young women need to be more aware of men like this
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I can’t stress how wrong this power dynamic is. It’s just too imbalanced.
@@cmparedes1058 exactly. But society doesn’t teach this, society says this is only a problem if it involves minors
I was groomed from my first child’s father took me many years to realize I was a victim. Learned to finally cope with it. I completely feel for Demi.
So, I met a guy once and he seemed cool. Then I found out he was 19. He was a sweet guy, but you could tell that he was just figuring out life, figuring out himself. Everyone deserves to mature without the influence of an older partner. Its just not ethical. People need to understand that so much maturing has still got to happen until the mid 20s at least
Yup. That’s how mature people behave
This is it I wish other people had this type of mindset
These grown men act like there's absolutely no possible way that they could find a woman closer to them in age 🤣 who'd make them happy. They act like someone's forcing them with a gun to their head to fuck 19 and 20yos. Just say you're a predator and go. There are plenty of beautiful 25+ yo women to choose from. Leave the kids alone.
You honestly think the Hollywood actress didn't know better at 18? At 18 those women know more than any 30 year old. They hang out in shady places till wee hours of the morning.
@@mayc8674 their minds still aren’t fully formed at 19. Yes they are exposed to a lot of adult stuff but they still mentally are children. You are waaaay different at 17, than you are even at 22.
clicked IMMEDIATELY. i remember their relationship so clearly and i remember being so sad when they broke up...i was so young that i didn't realize how wrong the relationship was. poor demi 😓💔
Same here
Ive listened to bits of her album, and my heart just breaks for her. I can’t even bring myself to listen to the whole thing, because of how much of her pain I can feel through her songs. I pray she finds true peace one day😔
that “five years a bleeder” line gave me chills oh my god
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Ew, why tf was Howard stern asking him those questions in the first place 🤢 that’s disgusting
Right!? Why would he think that ITS Ok.
Howard is the fucking worst. Always has been. Semi unrelated but I listened to a radio interview he did the day 9\11 happened. Like he was in the middle of it while the planes hit the twin towers. You can find it easily on UA-cam. He's literally encouraging bombing the middle east. All those innocent people killed because of a few idiots. Horrible, horrible man.
Because that's his entire thing, to say and ask shocking things and cause controversy? If it was anyone else I'd be shocked but since it's Howard Stern, I'm not, at all.
Howard Stern is literally disgusting the things that he would do on his show in the 90s and 2000’s would not be OK now. He would have playboy bunnies getting nude on his show 🤦🏻♀️
I've said it once and I'll say it again, if you're well over 25 years old you absolutely NO buisness dating people under 21! That is disgusting and predatory! Stop ruining these young people's lives! If they're teens or in their early 20s and you're damn near 30 or above leave them alone!
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I was gonna say I didn’t agree with you bc I think depends on the people, I know a couple who have a big age gap, they’ve been together 20yrs and still are crazy with each other BUT I do think there is a lot of toxic men, I think dating a in general you have to be cautious
I think if you truly love someone go for it but be cautious, it can work out or but it can also not
@@tulakathrine5892 Better safe than sorry lol. Did that couple you know meet when they were both adults and nobody was a teen? Then it was OK. But if you're close to 30, then pls stick to dating 30 year olds lol.
TRUTH I’m 29 and could never imagine being with someone under 25 years old
If you are pushing 40 then keep your thing in your pants around the 18-21 year olds THANKS
I have a few things that I noticed during this video:
1) I think Demi has been through a lot more than just her grooming. The way she almost overdosed and her seemingly having a hard time finding out who she is with the changing pronouns tells me she was traumatized somewhere down the line. I hope she continues her healing so she can continue to tell the truth of what goes on behind the scenes of child show with child stars.
2)I’m curious to know what was going on on the set of That 70s show. With Danny Masterson having his allegations and now Wilmer…makes me think something was going on there. Not to mention Mila Kunis admitted to lying about her age to get on the show, and then when she told them her real age, they didn’t care. Sounds like there may be more there too.
Right and now she’s married to one of her cohosts 🙄
Extremely relatable I'm so proud of her for speaking out like this. It confirms so much I've felt as a teen.
29 with a 17 year old? Oof. I'll be 21 in a month and I would never date a 17 year old. It's not the age gap, because at 21, I'd probably be willing to date a 25 year old if we meshed well enough. It's just the fact that at 17, you're still immature, learning about the world, figuring yourself out in such a fundamental way. I'm a vastly different person at 21 than I was at 17 and while I'll be a different person at 25 than I am now, I think I've got the fundamentals down.
At 17 you're still in high school sheesh😔
Yep I'm 22 years old and would never be with anyone that young, it's just not appropriate at all!
I'm 26 and I would never date a 17 year old. Even the thought of it is just gross.
Becareful of men's intentions
I’m 21 and wouldn’t even date a 19 year old…
Wow it's sickening how many child groomers are actually out there. I'm 35 and wouldn't even date a guy who is 21 because that just feels too young even if he's an adult. It would make me feel creepy, but that's just my personal opinion.
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21 is adult... Like its fine, its not 16
@@seliamila1005 I think it’s more about being in completely different stages in life, one is just starting out fresh out of college the other is probably stable financially and has gone through milestones already. Brain doesn’t develop until 25 and most go through an epiphany at that age. Can’t really explain the moment the frontal lobe develops but it changes your worldview.
💯 I completely agree. Makes you realize how sick these people are
Don’t forget Linsey Lohan.
This song really struck a cord with me and I remembered your video when I first heard it and I'm glad she's calling him out finally.
The wilder situation tragic but...why is Demi dating a 23 year old now?
Predators will tell you that you’re too young to be with them but still try to be with you nonetheless. I had a guy who is old enough to literally be my father say the same shit but then tell me that he had a sex dream about me later after the fact. Even told him that he was too old for Me and that him being attracted to me was weird especially when he has kids older than me.
Predators literally try to manipulate the situation and make it your idea to be with them. Telling them they are too young and to get away from is like reverse psychology
Right! It feels also as though by saying such this guys are trying to cover themselves up, because he can always say "I told told her at first that she was too young. Its not my fault" = this is also a huuuuge gateway to victim blaming. Manipulation, covering things up, victim blaming: these guys are disgusting
@@Selena0Izabelle exactly! Well said. It’s to deflect any accountability for the future.
Biggest red flag is " awwww your such a babyyyyyy" then them still pursuing you. Like wtf.
I relate to this so much. When I was 15 I started "dating" a 22 year old man. I broke up with him on my 18th birthday. When I turned 22, the thought of being with someone that young literally made me sick. It wasn't until that moment when I realized what had truly happened to me.
It’s crazy because I have a super similar story. When I was 14 I started “dating” a 22 year old man and a month before my 18th birthday he broke up with me. And it’s the same as you, when I turned 22 it made me sick because I could never think of dating a teen.
@@jessicareiser659 literally NEVER!! I remember shortly after that, when I was 18 or 19, I met this boy who had a crush on me. He was 15, and I didn't even entertain it.
The older guy spent our whole relationship saying things like, "I feel like you're wasting your teenage years on me, and if you don't want to be with me, I understand." And it's like he drilled it into me so much that I started believing it, and eventually when I turned 18, I came to the realization I didn't want to be with him. We still lived together at that point, and I had to call 911 on him twice because he kept shutting the electricity to my room off, and after he did move out, he and his friends TRASHED my apartment. Threw dirt and condiments over everything, broke and ripped things, including my senior year yearbook 🙄 to this day, he denies it, but I know it was him.
So that just goes to show how immature he was and speaks to why he would want to be with a child.
It's disgusting on so many levels.
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God dang. Dude is prob a sex offender right now
I was 25 year old man at job. The 23 year old dues would date 17 year old and think they was cool and winning. One girl was 5, 5 and a 6 2 dude 23 got busted making out with her in house. No one saw a prob. God i pray for the owners daughter, she was mean to me but I understand
I relate to Demi in so many ways. I was groomed / abused at the age 16 till I was 18 by someone who was 29/30. I didn't know it wasn't okay till I realized that it was not ok. I also got pregnant as soon as I turned 18 by someone who was 27. At the age of 16, I ended up OD-ing and taken advantage of then left at a friend's house and he took off... I never told anyone that. And I was hurting myself by doing multiple things. And watching demi lovato go from how she was to her now. It brings me happiness that she is healing her inner child and expressing the trauma she's gone through. She is my favorite artist❤️❤️ Shes strong❤️❤️
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I really relate to her. When i was 14 i was groomed by a 49 year old man. He started abusing me sexually, physically and emotionally. I finally just got away from him at age 21. When i was younger i believed it was normal . I believed the abuse was normal.
I’m so sorry
That's awful 😞
where was mom n dad?
@@MeHoyMinoy-cv3ps where was your mother and father?
Omg I'm so sorry but ur a victor not victim never stop telling your story beautiful
I so relate to her realization when she turned 29. I was groomed at 13 by an 18 year old and when I turned 18 that 13 would never cross my mind. It’s very eye opening
I am very sorry that happened to you. Wow; you have such a great outlook and have learned so much. You will help a lot of people with this statement ❤️ I hope you're doing well today.
Stop trying your hardest to seduce way older men than you then, problem solved mostly.
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When I turned 21 I remember thinking about how this guy dated me when he was 21 and I was 15. I wouldn't even remotely want to get close with a 15 year old like that now that I'm 21. So definitely, that's a relatable thought and makes me more aware that I was definitely groomed
Here we go again… he keeps getting older while the women/girls stay the same age.
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When I was 16 I volunteered at an Anime convention. There was a 21 year old medic volunteer and he constantly hit on me. When he found out I had a boyfriend (Also 16), he became angry and aggressive towards both of us.
I never realized until I was 21 how sick that was. An adult male was obsessing over a teenager to the point of picking a fight with another teenager is so wrong and gross.
I don't know what's wrong with some people.
Yeah, Sloan, you called this with your Wilmer video a few months ago. That Howard Stern interview is CREEEEPPPY. Good work.
Wilmer dating both Demi and Lindsey in their youngest and most vulnerable stages of life (all while they both struggled with E/D and addictions) says a lot about his use of power. I can’t speak for Mandy as I didn’t even know they dated, but I’m sure it was the same for them as well.
It’s actually disgusting how back in the day people didn’t talk about this as much
I’m on my mid 20s and couldn’t even fathom being attracted to someone 3 years younger let alone someone in their teens. Feel bad no one said anything, how oblivious we were.
Well, it's different for everyone. for example, I'm 31 and my boyfriend is 24. We met at work and share the same interests and hobbies. We also look the same age, ppl who don't know us assume we're the same age. But tbh before I met him, I also only dated ppl my age or slightly older/younger (like 1-3 years approx.) And when I fell in love with my current bf, I couldn't believe it at first. ^^ But love really is unpredictable sometimes.
@@91clarie that's still grooming. Someone in their early 20s is still figuring life out. You're in your 30s, you should know what it's like to be 24. I know a guy who got married at 25 to a woman in her 30s. He thought he was in love, now he's the same age she was at the time they got married and is looking to divorce because he sees how she took advantage of him. Dating anyone in their teens or 20s is grooming.
@@cariixxxx it's not grooming if both parties are ADULTS, you're out of your mind. By the way my parents have a 20 year age gap and are the healthiest couple I know!!
@@91clarie that's the same thing 24 year olds say about dating 18 year olds. Idc how healthy a relationship may seem, grooming is still grooming.
@@cariixxxx it's not grooming 🤦🏻♀️ it's LITERALLY not what the definition says, look it up if you don't believe me. Jesus Christ, age gaps get less important the older both ppl get
she's so brave
thank you for speaking truth
As soon as I seen this video I instantly thought of that 29 song and it’s so lovely and so expressive and sad.
I’m here for the exposure of grooming AND all of the weirdos in Hollywood. Can’t wait til the big big names get exposed. I hope everyone who comes out with their story is spiritually and energetically protected from exposing those higher ups and predators.
I hope you’re doing well too. You’re very giving and kind for this
thats probably why she's had so many identity issues. The trauma from being groomed. I've been in the music industry for about 6 years and i just got out of it. I was almost signed to a label and the founder of said label would constantly make sexual comments towards me. It made me feel so low and worthless. I'm thinking of becomng fully independent. There are so many amazing men in the world so I dont want to offend any men if they read this, but the men in the music industry and entertainment.. the ones with power... are straight up evil. They abuse their power , and gaslight as a means to avoid taking responsibility for the trauma they inflict onto younger girls AND boys. It's sad and you just gotta keep God with u, and if u dont believe in God, just keep away from bad vibes and lsten to your intution.
So glad u got out of that!! Keep going independently if it's still ur dream & u have the ability to do so!!!! Lots of love!!!!!
Good for you for getting out, that’s awful you had to go through that because you’re trying to build your career. And you are so right, always trust your intuition! It’s there for a reason.
Good luck with everything!
I’m so sorry that you had to experience that, nobody deserves that! I pray for your peace and healing 🙏🫶🏽
Demi definitely has a lot of trauma from the industry. In addition to being groomed, she was SA'd by another actor as a younger teen. Plus their parents were addicts (Mom is in recovery, no?), and also all these Hollyweird executives taking advantage of them ... yeah I'm not surprised she struggled so much
So happy that you got out of that situation, lovely! ❤️
Keep yourself safe, but don't let those awful men stop you from doing what you love and chasing your dreams. Sending you love and light ❤️
I can totally relate to this. I was 17 when my ex was 30. I thought it was normal and i stayed with him for 6 years in an abusive relationship and I wasnt proply matured and very naive. Now I'm 30 and the thought of been with a 17 year old is crazy to me! Makes me realise a lot
i remember that when i was a lovatic we all (the fans) absolutely despised wilmer because demi was so young and i kept waiting that she would realize how wrong it was and she never did and always talked about how much they loved him. I'm glad they finally realized how wrong it was and are able to heal from that
I can only imagine the kind of songs Olivia Rodrigo and Billie Eilish will put out once they turn 30 and "get perspective" too. The fact that these young girls are put in situations where grown ass men can prey, groom and date them so freely is angering and very sad, even sadder is that those kinds of things will continue happening.
sadly true
I think this is first time it's being really talked about. It's going to change real fast
@@aidk23 yeah but later she dated a guy who was 29 when she was 19
No one was groomed their adult
I feel all of this so deeply. :’) As someone in my mid-20’s now, it’s repulsive to think of why adult men were trying to hit me up while I was still in highschool. Even like 18 - 22 year olds, I think of how much I’ve grown since then, it’s so hard to wrap my mind around someone not looking at a high schooler and seeing a child.
Yeah! I have wondered that from the beginning!! Especially since he started showing interest in her when she was 17!! It’s about time this story is revealed.
Bruh I JUST was listening to 29. I came on UA-cam to see if I could get any more recent info on what's gone down since it came out, and sure enough, SLOAN is on it!!
I’m 26, and that was the age my cousin was when he started to groom me when I was 13/14 years old. Thankfully my mom caught on and put a stop to it. Sometimes you don’t realize you’ve been abused or groomed until you come of the same age as the person was then. I think back now and I couldn’t even imagine hanging out with a 13/14 year old everyday when I’m 26.. 🤢
The fact that he was your literal COUSIN makes this even worse, he tried flat out INCEST wtf
I’m so glad she’s speaking her truth finally, as a victim and past addict I look up to her (in certain ways) and I’m so glad she’s finally happy and content.
Same I’m also a recovering addict 🫶🏼
@@trustmeimfabulous of course she still struggles, we all do, but being “content” is saying okay, this happened how can I heal and be on a good track and be happy with myself and my life at this point in time and find peace and she seems to be doing so, healing and finding peace in what she can. We do need to pray for her but she’s one strong woman.
She is not happy or content. She is still on a downward spiral. Her blasphemous new album is vulgar and gross. She is living for this world and all the chaos in it. In reality, we all should be living for God where all beautiful and light things come from. 🙏
@@JoyInFreedom living for this world and all the chaos in it sounds pretty badass tbh
She's not a victim imo
when i was between 13 and 15 i dated a bunch of guys who were 17/18 and i thought it was pretty normal. once i turned 18 i had many friends who were around 15 bcs we had interests in common in high school, but i realized how different we were, and how 2 or 3 years of difference at that age made such a big impact in how emotionally and mentally mature can a kid/teen be
Sloan you’re killing it! Loving your content lately
Agreed 🥰
Meamwhile her parents + manager were too busy counting the money they made outta her while a 30yo was creeping on her. They failed to protect her and they are as disgusting as he is if not more.
her dad died when she was little
@@91clarie She does have a step-father, however.
I remember several interviews she did, where she said she met Wilmer at 17, and he rejected her multiple times. After her 18th birthday, he finally agreed to date her. She also thanked him publicly for helping her get through her drug addiction & other mental health issues & also thanked him publicly for not taking credit publicly for her sobriety. He was there when she was hospitalized for an OD, even though they had been broken up for years at that point. So this song took me by surprise, not gonna lie. Guess the truth will all come out eventually
I thought my ex was the best person I ever dated and only years after did I accept they were the enabler and booster of my self medicating and alcohol abuse and traumatized me to a degree I had deeply numbed within myself. Relationships with people who groom or abuse can be so incredibly chaotic and confusing and at your most vulnerable and turbulent times of life. It can take years to become clear enough to accurately perceive what you experienced. I had other more apparently damaging relationships, but this type was at such a subtle level I would never have seen it if it wasn’t for wising up on that type of subtle abuse and manipulation. I still have a hard time admitting this person was so truly disturbed and abusive, because of the subtlety as I said.
@@amcd85 I had relationships like that as well. Not until years later was I wise enough to realize the reality of what was going on.
This is SO important
ONE thing I agree with that DL has done. ONE. BUT, I AM SCREAMING THIS AGAIN- WHY DIDN'T HER PARENTS PROTECT HER? Write a song about them not protecting their child. #shame
BTW, it does not matter if an underage person seemingly throw themselves at an adult, the adult must put a stop to it - walk away, do not communicate at all, etc
Her father was pretty much death and her mother emotionally exhausted, at that time She had to threaten Demi to go to Rehab while having two other daughters to take care of...
she paid the bills for a long time at that point. Also not a fan of the “what about the parents” argument - it’s giving, let’s divert the blame. Parents, even when they aren’t being financially supported by their child, infamously cannot tell their teenagers what to do.
From watching the documentary, the mom seems like she either can't, or won't, talk Demi out of an idea. She was either exhausted or maybe ignorant to what a big deal grooming really is. Wilmer is still the most to blame ofc, bc he was an adult & could've said no to dating Demi.
We've been saying this for years.. So glad that she is coming out 🙌🏾 I can't wait for other celebrities to come out about their predatory exes
I completely agree with your "joint statement" opinion, I've always found those odd myself
Wow, seriously powerful lyrics.. love Demi so much. Glad she expressed her feelings, she’s so strong & a great role model for young girls.. learning from one’s mistakes is what makes us Stronger & Wiser.. God Bless fam 💜🙏✨✌️
I love how open and raw this woman is, that takes guts 👏
It’s very predatory behavior when i grown a$$ man or woman goes after someone so young. They take advantage of the fact they know nothing about life or about how bad of a person they really are and will let a lot of their bad behavior slide. It’s gross 🙄🤦🏼♀️
I think her writing this song and talking about her experience is such a great thing. For her but also so that we as a society can talk about these kind of relationships and so young girls now can learn from women who have grown and have realized no, it’s not flattering, it’s predatory.
Wow I thought I was the only one who went through this. When I turned the age as my “groomer” was at that time it made me even more pissed and I had to like reexperience it again but through a different perspective. So interesting to hear others have experienced this.
I’m glad she’s coming out and speaking on it. It takes a lot of strength and bravery to do what she’s doing. This is completely off topic but Sloan, your eyes are stunning!!!
I was 19 when I met and started dating “him” and he was 34. I turned 26 this past February and finally realized EVERYTHING and broke it off. The relationship was abusive physically, mentally, sexually, and financially.
He had just moved to my city a few years before meeting me. (He stopped me at the gym and reeled me in with a bullshit pickup line. Which now, I see that it really was disgusting).
To get away and be safe from him I had to move states.
Glad you realized it. Hope you’re better and healed.
19 is legally an adult and it sucks. They should definitely change the age to 21 when our minds are fully developed. Just like the legal age to drink and smoke is 21 it should be with relationships with big age gaps.
@@Liztoofly the maturation of the brain actually starts at 23 and ends around 30. (It’s different ages for everyone.) even in your 20s your still vulnerable.
@@purplehood8418 wait....you're saying sex should be illegal until you're 30?
How would he know how old you were at the gym
Really well done💗
Sloan your voice is so good for narrating!
She’s so brave for opening up about it. And by doing so she’s helped so many other people come out and share their own stories. Sharing her own experience has given others strength to do the same. It’s so amazing.
So brave! 🤣
*They
@@DauntingBlue did you not listen to Sloan? it's she now so get it right!
@@penskepc2374 my bad it was a honest mistake…getting over aggravated over a comment simply just having the state to notice someone’s pronouns..could’ve have corrected me in a different tone…like I said I made a mistake I didn’t get to watch the vid yet..I was just reading the comments
@@DauntingBlue I was just joking, don't apologize for not being able to keep with up with that stuff.
I'm 27 now and I remember thinking how creepy their relationship was. That and Courtney Stodden as well. Trust a lot if us knew. But what can you do when it comes to celebrities.😔
You have such a nice voice that I literally heard all of the cyber ghost ad without skipping. Also, now I'm interested in cyber ghost......dayum you Sloan!! It worked. 😆
There is so much more to this story!!!
If her new guy doesn’t have substance issues but chooses to support her by not drinking around her I think that is incredibly supportive and hope that they have a beautiful relationship. She has been through a lot. She deserves happiness.
He took his show “Handy Manny” too literal
One thing I will say is @sloan eyebrows are always on point!!
I just found your channel Sloan and im subbing. Excellent explanations and gave us all the sauce. 10/10
Exactly this. I dated 2 men much older than me when I was younger and at the time I thought I was cool and in control. Now I’m much older the thoughts of them dating someone so young and innocent disgusts me. It’s scary.
I see people questioning her about this with "Well why did she stick up for him so many times while they were together?!" The answer to that is, she was still being groomed. Everyday. She was still young. She was still naive to it all.... He needs to be CANCELED
*THIS*
Feel and understand that you've been taking advantage it's heart breaking. It feel you betrayed your self. And that can happen at any age. I can't imagine it happening while being a young girl like that.
Sloan is looking snatched
I didn’t even realize this happened to me and how wrong it was until I heard this song and started seeing the trend with everyone’s stories. #16/23
So thankful to her for speaking out and helping me heal from trauma I didn’t even know I was carrying.
29 is my absolute favorite song off her new album! I'm so happy she's able to speak out and it's truly inspiring!
That 70’s Show was one of my favorites growing up, but it’s hard to watch it now knowing how many abusers and questionable people are in that cast 🙁 Kitty Foreman is still my favorite TV mom ever tho.
That company you opened from, ADORABLE, and So beautiful. Legit. Im going to check then out.
Even tho I’m not a fan of hers and her problematic self , I’m glad she’s exposing the people that have done a lot of harm to her and mental health. She should also add Trace Cyrus to the list.He was 20 when she was 16 and started to flirt with her.
Agree with this 100%
I was 16 when i was groomed by a 23 year old. i thought i was so cool and mature that instead of picking someone their age, he picked a junior in HS. i had always liked older guys. but its true, he was toxic and manipulated the heck out of me. now im 21, free from him thankfully i left him. i can see how messed up it truly is. i could never date anyone whos under 20.....im 21 girl. messed up man. the trauma stays forever.
Good video! Jute$ is one year older than Demi though, but I’m sure you found out overtime. Love you SLOAN!
What she's going through with this seems to be common. I remember being 15/16 dating men in their mid-to-late 20s and thought "I must be really mature for my age since older men like me." Then I entered my mid-20s and saw things much, much differently. I have heard similar things from others who were young dating older people.
(To anyone wondering where my parents were: My mom was suffering narcissistic and financial a bus e, my stepfather kicked me out; I was homeless. Older men often had their own place and I'd try to make the ones I liked fall in love with me so I could have a place to stay.)
@@MayISpeak Thank you 😇💖 It's taken a long time, but I'm now grateful as the bad experiences have helped make me the person I am today, and will hopefully help me with my own daughter as she grows up.
Surely Demi opening up about her own experience will serve as a warning to many, many young people for years to come. It was horrible for her to go through, but if her song can help others avoid a similar path, then some good came from her bad. I can't speak for Demi, but I know if I was her and someone said "Your song and you talking about things really helped me" I would be touched and feel like it was all worth it to help that one person. And she'll definitely be helping way more than one person with this.
@gypsy woman……wow! I’m
so sorry that you had such a tough beginning. I pray that life is much better for you now.
Without going into it, I had a tough start too. The positive to it all is that it has made me a compassionate, very aware human. But I’d be lying to say that I’ve totally healed from it all.
Why didnt you go to a place that helps runaways who are young . They have lots of them. Instead you said you chose to try and make older men fall in love with you for a place to sleep.
@@allencanales1894 There was (and still is) only one youth shelter in my area. By 16 I was too old for foster care. The shelter could only keep us for 3 months at a time; it wasn't a permanent solution. But mostly I wanted someone to love me and take care of me, but mostly I wanted to be loved. Don't most people want to feel loved?
I can't change my past and don't pretend I didn't make my own mistakes. I'm not a complete victim. I was young, dumb, and seeking love in all the wrong ways to compensate for not receiving healthy love from my parents. I know that now. But I can't change my past.
All that aside; presuming the resources from your area are available everywhere (particularly when you don't even know where the person is from) isn't a great idea on the internet. We're all spread far apart. For example; I often wonder why there aren't more resources for males seeking to escape DV; plenty of help for women. Yet when I once posted a rant about that, others (I assume Americans, but may be wrong) said there's plenty of help for men leaving DV where they're from. Help for people in all kinds of situations *should* exist globally, everywhere, in every community, every country. But they don't. Certainly not in my general vicinity.
@@marymendicino9132 *HUGS* I'm sorry you've been through some ish, too, and the healing journey can be a real b. AA has the right idea with "One day at a time" it's so true for so many things when it comes to recovery. You're stronger than you may sometimes feel and you have a beautiful soul 💖
I dated a man who was much older than me when I was 15 he did lie on his age. Now that I’m grown and our son is almost 18 I look at his birth certificate and the age gap really hits home. I’m so beyond thankful for my son but I would be irate if an older woman was taking advantage of him ☹️ sending love to all the others who have been through this! Don’t let it define you, they don’t deserve your future self!
I ended up pursuing someone who was 32 when I was 17. I ended up going through hard stuff by myself. I wish he would have shot me down, and I wish he didn’t say all the things he said to me. The older I get the weirder I feel about the whole situation.
Hell no. She was a legal adult and able to make her own decisions. She does not get to now play the victim card.
Exactly thank you
SHE👏WAS👏BARELY👏LEGAL. You disgust me. You said this one year ago and I hope you regret saying these words now.
My son is 17....picturing a 29yr old looking at him in that way is so scary. Thank God she didn't end up married to him.
Okay, I’m not saying it’s right but in the Latino community, men dating young women/teens is not uncommon. … literally no one bats an eye.
and???? stop trying to justify old men preying on teenagers all because hes latino. no one gives a single fvck about his race when the topic at hand is how wrong and gross grooming is, IT DOESN'T MATTER THE RACE IN WHICH A PERSON IS WHEN THEY ARE INTENDING ON GROOMING A YOUNGER PERSON INTO HAVING A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. it's wrong, plain and simple. so you saying that is completely irrelevant to the issues being discussed here. sit this one out.
@@haileypeterson989 I work with children and after reading several of your comments I would mark you on the list of adults not allowed on school property just from this comment section alone. Please seek therapy something has happened to you and you’re not thinking properly.
@@dollinterrupted That's a horrible thing to say to someone. You do not know me. I work with children too...so your opinion based on a couple comments I made regarding ADULTS doesn't mean a thing. That is a very hateful thing to say about someone you do not even know. You should watch what you say to people.
Ur awesome at doing what u do
My first relationship was when I was 18 years old... My boyfriend was 25 yrs old. I didn't think it was a big deal, in fact I was proud that I was dating a 25 yr old. When I turned 25 I felt like I'd been punched in the face "how could a 25 yr old date a teenager!?".... its gross and I am embarrassed that I ever dated him. He was also an abusive, controlling, cheating narcissist, so that played a massive role in me leaving him when I was 21. Moral of the story, 18 yr olds don't make good decisions 🤨
Speak for yourself. It was literally a couple years difference you re victimizing yourself. I made better choices when I was 10 than u did at 8 ur just delayed. As a 24 yo female who dated a 26 yo at 16 honestly. All men can be manipulative all ages.
I'm sorry you went through that. Don't feel bad. It's crazy how mature we think we are when we're teenagers. Your pre frontal cortex wasn't even fully developed yet.
It's evil that society tells adult men and young girls that these kinds of relationships are okay. I'm Demi's age and I remember seeing lots of social propaganda normalizing this type of thing growing up. Misogyny is so cruel.
I'm glad to see more of these conversations happening. It used to be you were just a jealous old hag if you criticized it at all
18 year olds don't make good decisions? However, they have the intelligence and maturity to vote in a presidential election? Hmmm
You are no longer a "teenager" @ 18. You are grown. I pray to God you were kidding 🤦♂️
@edub9930 Yes, you are, moron! 18 is a teen! Yes, you are legal, but still a teen! And you really need to ask yourself why a mid 20's man would want to date an 18 year old. My ex also told me when we were dated that he made out with a 14 year old when he was 24... He was a preditor!
I'm really glad people are speaking out, slowly but surely we will have a safer environment, I believe that. I still feel a very real thread of fear for everyone who does it. Seems like there's a ramped up desperation to keep things hidden, now that more people are aware of the corruption. I hope Demi stays safe and her art continues to be a release for her. Thanks for another one! 💗✨