Finally, someone covering eGPUs in 2024. I (try) to run a 6800U with my PCs RX 7900XT via USB4/Thunderbolt 3. In Forza Horizon 5, I lost >40% performance. It also takes anywhere between seconds to hours to connect.
I also had to get a custom bootloader, and a custom pci.sys driver for windows to properly connect to the eGPU. code 12 and code 43 give me nightmares man
still rocking my 2018 mac mini with an eGPU. 5700xt still going strong enough for my lighter esports titles at 1080p. within the next year I’ll be upgrading to a PC (keeping the 5700xt until prices come down a bit on the higher end 40 series)
12 screws on the cooling system... That honestly feels like a simple task, 12 is alot but they are all just basic screws and from what it looked like they were all the same. I'd take the beefier cooling system with the screws over simplicity [with higher heat
I currently use an M.2 to pcie x16 adapter to use my laptop with an external GPU but I can feel that the connection is both PCIe 3.0 and limited to 4 lanes. The most exciting part about Oculink becoming somewhat mainstream in this niche is the possibility of an Oculink x8 expansion bay for the framework 16 laptop.
Will u talk about lossless scaling? Here's an Idea using the software paired with a piss poor gpu and a high end gpu and only using the low end gpu for frame generation
If it supports pcie 4.0 over oculink, I guess that means the UH125 should also support Oculink 2. With an Oculink 2 adapter that gives you 8 pcie lanes instead of 4. I wonder if that would help the gpu. I also wonder if there's a difference in pcie bandwidth utilisation between nVidia and AMD gpu's.
im curious as to what kinda performance this would get with a gpu using 8 lanes like the 4060ti or 4060, would the drops be less by comparison to if it had full lanes?
Wait, unless I am not seeing this right, it is far easier to access the CPU fan area. Why isn't that mentioned as a positive thing? You are far more likely to need to clean a fan or even replace the thermal paste, than to swap the RAM or SSD. I mean sure 12 screws is not a good thing, but how many other mini PCs allow you to easily reach the CPU fan? It might be harder to add RAM and SSD if you buy this without them, but in the long run it's far far better to have easy access to the fan and CPU. At least that's how I see it. I would like to see this with lower tier GPU, 4060/3060/1660 Super, if the percentage is the same as with this far more powerful GPU. Also I would love to see if a more powerful CPU would and how much eliminate the difference between the two connections. I think it's a fine computer and I am saying this even though I am not fan of Intel's iGPU. Fun video, thank you for sharing.
This man has never released a flop video. 10/10 bangers everytime. Love the content bro, I;m curious if you've thought about reviewing say workstation laptops and the Quadroo cards they come with?
Man, eGPUs are just too bottelnecked by its bandwith to be a generaly usefull and costefficient solution. Seriously, if people want eGPU to be a real option, they need to create a connection that carries the whole x16 slot.
This is Kind of a dumb comparison Like you cant Just leave Out the Factor of the CPU. The concept is interesting but i would have used the Same Desktop Setup once with the x16 Slot and once with x4 to See the relative drop in Performance when every other variable is the Same. This Just kinda means nothing
Hey man love the channel and watch pretty much every video but I really can’t with these mini PC videos. They’re not particularly interesting as it’s just basically testing ultrabook CPUs with somewhat ok integrated graphics. Would love to see more videos with older GPUs and CPUs or more dream builds from x year but the mini PC videos have got to stop.
Mini PCs with Strix halo will destroy this so hard in performance. If the rumored apu with gpu part made out of 40 CUs (rdna 3.5 is) is even close to desktop gpu equivalents it will even destroy the combo with the external 3080ti.
This mini pc video is at-least different than the others but these videos are so dull. These are office PCs that go mounted behind monitors they work well enough for that function and gaming performance is not interesting past the first couple of videos you did.
Yeah these mini PC's are pretty niche. This video is interesting at least because of how ridiculous and impractical it is. Mini PCs are either for business use or as a cheap console emulator box to hookup to a TV or something.
Can we see 6900XT vs 3080Ti in late 2024? Maybe some demanding latest games. It would be interesting video.
Mmmmmmaybe? 😉
@@blueboy3990but not as fun as Iceberg's 🎉😂
Yeah Iceberg just does it better. Between the narration and little stories about the product, he just makes a better video
@@AlexandruJalea Iceberg's *SEXY* voice never fails to turn me on 😍
Agree bro@@PinkSkinSisko
Finally, someone covering eGPUs in 2024.
I (try) to run a 6800U with my PCs RX 7900XT via USB4/Thunderbolt 3. In Forza Horizon 5, I lost >40% performance.
It also takes anywhere between seconds to hours to connect.
You mean at 4k, so that you can have the least bottleneck
Yeah 20-40% performance loss is usually my experience as well over TB3
I also had to get a custom bootloader, and a custom pci.sys driver for windows to properly connect to the eGPU. code 12 and code 43 give me nightmares man
@@aswadevg I tried 4K120Hz. PC gets around 85-130fps, eGPU got 45-90fps
@@crashgamesuhd does it stutter bad? maybe a low tier budget gpu is good atleast its not igpu?
You should compare the igpu to an arc a380, as they have the same number of cores.
Cool video idea and well executed. It's also great to see the sub counter constantly rising. Well deserved.
3:50 damn that synth goes HARD
Always a pleasant day when I get to watch performance numbers!
Half the cores, less than half the bandwidth, this wasn't bad at all. I expected a little worse. Now I REALLY want to see one in an SER7!
eGPUs wont be good until we get Thunderbolt 5.
and more cables that support 75 gb/s bandwidth lol
Albino have u ever seen someone struck by lightning 😊
Takeaway: Be careful of how good your cpu is before spending a ton of money upgrading a mini pc
The issue is the connection. It tanks performance.
@@jorge69696 what are you talking about: oculink is the fastest plug-in connection for egpus available.
still rocking my 2018 mac mini with an eGPU. 5700xt still going strong enough for my lighter esports titles at 1080p. within the next year I’ll be upgrading to a PC (keeping the 5700xt until prices come down a bit on the higher end 40 series)
Procrastination time!!!! Thanks Iceberg 😁
Oh hey, I picked up that exact PCIe adapter myself.
It's a pathway to getting funny records on TimeSpy lol.
It's kind of funny that you and RandomGaminginHD uploaded this at similar times.
12 screws on the cooling system... That honestly feels like a simple task, 12 is alot but they are all just basic screws and from what it looked like they were all the same. I'd take the beefier cooling system with the screws over simplicity [with higher heat
I'm not schitting on Oculink for their efforts. But, it would be awesome if they could double the bandwidth for next gen... A healthier 126GB/Sec.
how cool would a 5090 look plugged into the mains with a miniPC hot glued to the back-plate 😅
Gigabit, not gigabyte. If it were gigabyte, that would be faster than a Pcie 5 x16 connection.
you know that Oculink is not a company, right? right? thought so
Hi iceberg. How are you? Love the content! Keep the vids coming 😄
I currently use an M.2 to pcie x16 adapter to use my laptop with an external GPU but I can feel that the connection is both PCIe 3.0 and limited to 4 lanes. The most exciting part about Oculink becoming somewhat mainstream in this niche is the possibility of an Oculink x8 expansion bay for the framework 16 laptop.
Finally an interesting twist to one of your multiple billion mini pc videos
No more mini pc!
Would be amazing to see you try to get and benchmark an old flagship laptop
MORE POWER🔥🔥🔥
What is this fascination with EGPUs. Just buiid miniitx and done.
Oculink is just 4x PCIe..... so why not use Thunderbolt/USB 4?
this is yet another port that fills a slot that is already taken
Are you restarted? TB4 is like half the speed of oculink X4
Will u talk about lossless scaling?
Here's an Idea using the software paired with a piss poor gpu and a high end gpu and only using the low end gpu for frame generation
I would have liked to see DLSS performance numbers.
It would be interesting how high you can go with this connector and CPU till you see the upgrades being minimal
While reviewing minipcs please display CPU temp. I believe it's crucial to know the temp situation with a smaller factor pc
How did you use the Graphics Card? With just an external PSU? And how did you set it up? Curious...
Try the Oculink thing with a PCIE x8 GPU. I wanna see if it's any better.
Can you PLEASE slap that M.2 adapter into the spare M.2 port of the SER7 and re run this? PLEASE?
I would love to see how much performance lower end cards lose compared to desktop, something like 3060/3050 or a 6600
IIRC Oculink should provide 8 lanes instead of 4 in USB/Thunderbolt?
If it supports pcie 4.0 over oculink, I guess that means the UH125 should also support Oculink 2. With an Oculink 2 adapter that gives you 8 pcie lanes instead of 4. I wonder if that would help the gpu. I also wonder if there's a difference in pcie bandwidth utilisation between nVidia and AMD gpu's.
I hope for 890m amd graphics in mini pcs later this year.
Do the lanes affect the performance? Because that oculink only utilizes x4 lanes which is the quarter of max bandwidth.
im curious as to what kinda performance this would get with a gpu using 8 lanes like the 4060ti or 4060, would the drops be less by comparison to if it had full lanes?
What port is the monitor connected to? If the nvidia card has to send its framebuffer back over the pcie bus, it can slow down a ton
Could we get the power consumption difference as well?
So whats the best mini pc option? With oculink?
Since it's a pcie 4 x4, could you use a x4 video card, like a 6500xt?
Wait, unless I am not seeing this right, it is far easier to access the CPU fan area. Why isn't that mentioned as a positive thing? You are far more likely to need to clean a fan or even replace the thermal paste, than to swap the RAM or SSD.
I mean sure 12 screws is not a good thing, but how many other mini PCs allow you to easily reach the CPU fan?
It might be harder to add RAM and SSD if you buy this without them, but in the long run it's far far better to have easy access to the fan and CPU.
At least that's how I see it.
I would like to see this with lower tier GPU, 4060/3060/1660 Super, if the percentage is the same as with this far more powerful GPU.
Also I would love to see if a more powerful CPU would and how much eliminate the difference between the two connections.
I think it's a fine computer and I am saying this even though I am not fan of Intel's iGPU.
Fun video, thank you for sharing.
I dont want anymore more mini pc's 😢
Now...if we could see this in a laptop format 😂.
Another mini pc video, at least this isn't a review again
IGPU on top🤑🤑
I have a 6900 XT and would like a 2024 3080 ti comparison
why not use the ultra 7 155h and compare it with the 8945hs for egpu?
This man has never released a flop video. 10/10 bangers everytime. Love the content bro, I;m curious if you've thought about reviewing say workstation laptops and the Quadroo cards they come with?
Ah yes, legendary Intel core I5 (i3 inside).
👏👍
Can I just say, THANK YOU for the death star reference!
16:17 That's you?
what's up with that white noise every time you talk? is that always there...
Man, eGPUs are just too bottelnecked by its bandwith to be a generaly usefull and costefficient solution. Seriously, if people want eGPU to be a real option, they need to create a connection that carries the whole x16 slot.
High chance the x16 slot is gen 3 so no advantage from oculink reapect to tb4
thanks for doing blender
Another good video Mr.GlacierTech.
Always been curious about external GPU's.
This is Kind of a dumb comparison Like you cant Just leave Out the Factor of the CPU. The concept is interesting but i would have used the Same Desktop Setup once with the x16 Slot and once with x4 to See the relative drop in Performance when every other variable is the Same. This Just kinda means nothing
Oh, god. They are putting Co-Pilot buttons onto these things now? That is an auto no-buy from me.
Can someone explain to me the apeal of mini pcs?
Safer and easier to travel with than a laptop. Every hotel room has a TV.
Here in less than a minute
stupid things I want to do
Hey man love the channel and watch pretty much every video but I really can’t with these mini PC videos. They’re not particularly interesting as it’s just basically testing ultrabook CPUs with somewhat ok integrated graphics. Would love to see more videos with older GPUs and CPUs or more dream builds from x year but the mini PC videos have got to stop.
Mini PCs with Strix halo will destroy this so hard in performance. If the rumored apu with gpu part made out of 40 CUs (rdna 3.5 is) is even close to desktop gpu equivalents it will even destroy the combo with the external 3080ti.
no gunshot sound fx on the title screen... my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
More views than my whole channel in 2 hours💀
Bro we know you are sponsored but STOP WITH THE MINI PCs. No one actually cares about them, especially when over half of your content is just those.
true, fuck this endless stream of cookie cutter mini pc content
im so early omg
no views in 42 seconds bro fell off
the only thing that fell off is your evacuated cranium
This mini pc video is at-least different than the others but these videos are so dull. These are office PCs that go mounted behind monitors they work well enough for that function and gaming performance is not interesting past the first couple of videos you did.
This is an L take on your part... I think your being hyper critical.
Yeah these mini PC's are pretty niche. This video is interesting at least because of how ridiculous and impractical it is. Mini PCs are either for business use or as a cheap console emulator box to hookup to a TV or something.