I got a dell inspirion 5675 for $1000 which was a not too bad deal back then in 2017 for a ryzen 7 1700 and RX 580, but now it's barely worth $400 in price points. It really shows that the crypto dummies were literally price gouging cpus and gpus .Ironic considering the Ryzen 7 1800x was worth $500 launch but since then the Ryzen 5 5600G launched at half it's price with integrated graphics too. Moral of the story: do not buy a dells with locked bios in which you cannot upgrade to gen 2 ryzens.
Can confirm. I upgraded from a 5700 XT and 3700x machine over the last few months. In my experience there's not a ton of difference between the 3600 and 3700x in gaming. And neither is going to hold back a 5700XT to a meaningful degree. I got the 5700XT in 2019 just a couple months before the crypto boom and pandemic caused prices to be ridiculous. But getting that amount of performance for ~$150 is pretty insane. The 5700XT still holds it's own in 1440p gaming, imo.
i’ve had an rx 5700 since late 2019. i can’t believe i’m saying this, but the performance of this GPU literally made me forget the need of any new GPU. However, my 2700x leaves a lot to be desired in some games (BeamNG especially)
@@zhila5958 In some games, even the 3600 was holding my 5700XT back (specifically, AC Odyssey). I recently upgraded to the R7 5700X and there is definitely a fair bit of difference at QHD UW resolution.
The 8700K was an awesome CPU when it released, and still is today. Push that bad boy to 5GHz and you're set for another 2-3 years, I reckon. Lack of AVX-512 instructions shouldn't really a problem since both 12th and 13th gen dropped support for it, anyway.
@@DyceFreakI was still using a 4770 non k until April of this year 🤣. Could surprisingly still hold up well with a lot of modern titles. Upgraded to i5 13400f since though and yep it's a massive improvement.
This video speaks so much, during 2017-2018 I went full out for the first time on a PC and bought the i7 8700k (369€ at release from one of my retailers, 429€ was the normal selling price in my country). Also with 32GB of Kingston HyperX RAM (Paid about 358€ in RAM lmao) and MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X 11G (899€) at their release. Also ~182,90€ on a MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon ATX Motherboard, still pushing to this day and only upgrade I have done is replacing all drives with nvme & SATA SSDs. The day it gives up will be a sad day with a tear in my eye so many memories
the i7 8700k wasn't decent.. It has ryzen 5 5600 level of perfomance but released 3.5 years early.. It was great and blew out of the water the ryzen competition..
@@sergioramos1287amd fanboys don’t want to admit they’ve been battling with the same 2015 Skylake architecture up until 5800x3d. Decently oced Intels are still shredding through games, and arguably are more stable with lesser dips.
This is exactly the system I built in late 2017. Same cpu and gpu. Aside from upgrading the ram and adding some additional storage, its the same pc today and it still kicks ass. I usually aim for components that will age well... my previous pc was an i7 2600k and radeon 7970. That system also aged very well and is still useable today.
I upgraded in early 2017 and made the questionable decision of getting an i5-6600k (going from an FX 8320 because it had gotten unstable) because I wanted Windows 7 compatibility, instead of waiting a month to get a Ryzen 5 1600. I also upgraded from an HD 7850 1GB to an RX 480 8GB which was a great choice since it lasted me until just a few months ago.
I bought a 8700k on release and it was a great CPU, I kept it until I upgraded to 12th gen because if you checked benchmarks a 5.0 GHz 8700k competed very well all the way up through 11tth gen. Mine was delidded which made a huge difference in temps. I didn't have the 1080 Ti but a 1080.
I was in a store on the day of the coffee lake launch and was choosing between that and an zen1 cpu. Was so interested by the ryzen cpus that I got an 1600 ie I aimed at as much similarities spec wise as an 8700k but holy moly what a disappointment the r5 was, but lets be fair here, If I stuck with that mobo I would be able to just shove an 5800x3d in it and be done with it, too bad I upgraded to all am4 chipset but the x370 and x570 for am5 when I got another am4 cpu :D
I'm still rocking my 2017 build: 2x Nvidia 1080 Ti FE (SLI'd) Intel i7 7700k (4.8 GHz) 32 GB 3600 MHz Trident-Z RGB Asus Max IX F MoBo 1 TB Samsung EVO NVME SSD Corsair AX1500i PSU Corsair 750D Case (w/ optional panels) Completely unchanged other than adding 24 TB of SSD storage. It does everything; literally paid for itself.
found your channel with your i7-2600 video some months ago. now im a daily viewer. love the quality overall and the videos are so entertaining! rooting for this channel to thrive!🔥
I have a 3600X 5700XT rig that I am very optimistic about its lifespan. I use it on my living room TV at 1080p and at that res I expect it to hold its own for a good few years yet. Likewise the 6800XT in my main rig hasn't even seen much competition from its own successors, so I am hopeful it'll see me through for a good few years. Quietly hopeful the 5800X3D comes down to bargain price in a couple of generations, and then I'll be able to squeeze even longer out of the board. People complain about hardware stagnating but fuck that, I am all in favour of it. Having hardware stay relevant for longer is nice.
The 1080ti was my dream GPU for to many years. I would actually still be inclined to buy one. I also had a soft spot for that i7 but my i5 10400f doesn't have much performance difference from the 8700k.
Same here... When i finally saved up for my "Dream GPU" it wasn't "brand new" anymore, so i jumped from gtx 680 all the way into rtx 2000 series [2060]
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Not anymore.. Made an upgrade to 2080s in the same year, cause i made mistake by buying 1440p monitor... 3 Years later, basically just recently, upgraded to "used" rtx 3090.
I actually bought one a year ago! If you're still tempted the prices are falling pretty steadily every month! Last time I checked Nvidia founders cards are going for around $230
This was basically my exact build back then, wonderful to see how well it’s aged. The 1080ti is still my favourite card of all time, what an absolute beast.
in the US, a build like this would cost 1.5/1.7K if you didn’t get stupid stuff or overkill stuff. not 2k lmao. it also has the ability to run on ultra and not locked to 30 fps low(cough cough ps4)
It's very impressive considering how performant all these parts still are in modern titles, the price of comparable high end components today, and the cost of these used parts currently in the used market
I do tons of benching, a Haswell i7 4770K with a GTX1060 6gb will do over 60fps in most games at 1440p. An 8700K with a 1080ti is still a beast especially when you know how to properly overclock them. I bought an 8700K new beginning of 2018 and if I wasn't doing videos and getting back into overclocking in the league it would still be my main CPU. They really can make use of high speed memory too unlike Ryzens. My GPU would be my GTX1070 still but I have got more powerful ones now too.
My daily driver is still a 1700X, B350 and all. The lack of upgrades, (bar a swap out from a 10603GB to a 5700XT), isn't because I couldn't, but I just haven't felt it to be necessary. I still get 60+ frame rates in every game I want to play on a Medium-High mixture, my media export times are still great and even my terrible 2400mhz DDR4 is totally acceptable. The late 2010s were like a second golden era of PC hardware.
I had a B350 board on my 1600, it degraded the VRM's even at stock speed. I've got an X570 ROG board with 3700X, no problems. I wasn't impressed with my 1700x or 1600 but the 3700X seems pretty good, not benched it against my 8700K yet but I think it will compare well. Does yours have a big delay when you press the power button before it actually starts loading windows like both my Ryzen systems did? The 1700X was on a ROG X370 Hero board but it still wasn't a good experience for me.
Few months ago I helped my sister to upgrade her AM4/B350 system from a Ryzen 3 1200 to a Ryzen 5 5600. I think I made the right choice when choosing the platform even if the Ryzen 3 1200 wasn't that good even when new. It still did well for years with her old GTX 1050
A 2017 PC is in my mind still basically a new PC. It's one of those newfangled Ryzen-era PCs. I haven't gone any more modern than Devil's Canyon (or Skylake if you count my old school laptop).
Still running a 1080ti alongside my 11700k, up from a 980ti which still holds its own. Running a quad 1080p setup, because 4k still isn’t worth it if you’re not an artist.
I hope that avx512 doesn’t become mainstream, given that even Intel’s latest 12th gen, 13th gen doesn’t support it (well it does have the diet VNNi version)
"One game that managed to appear in my Steam library (and yet I've never played) is F1 2018." This is so relatable that I feel I should be allowed to sue for copyright infringement.
17:58 This shouldn't be an issue any time soon. Due to it's popularity the Steam Deck has given developers a very good spec target to optimize for, and since the Steam Deck doesn't have great ray-tracing performance it should allow cards that don't support ray-tracing at all to thrive for at least a few more years
I've got a 8700k delidded and overclocked with a overclocked 1080 I built the start of 2018. Does great, just built a new system, so I ordered a 4070 to replace the 1080 and it will become my son's new system. Going to flash the bios of the taichi mobo, add a 2 tb nvme, and repaste the cooler and I bet it will be good for another 4 to 5 years. Good gaming rig for my son.
yes but it is a *boring* thing to see. anyone can look at the pc parts of the current era and tell you that there is not enough technological advancement. those parts will last you another 6-7 years from now. no problems.
Right before covid i bought 2 pair of 16x2 ddr4 3600 corsair rgb something for 150... in the niddle of covid I listed them and they sold for 300 each. Im glad prices have come down, its good for younger kids to get good rigs for a good price.
I am still gaming on my 8700k 1080ti to this day! This video made me smile. I guess i got super lucky with the timing of my first build. I built mine in august 2018.
Yeah it really depended on when you got the hardware in 2017. Early enough 2017 it would've been 7700k vs 1700 and late enough it was 8700k. Honestly glad to see that you tested this stuff in 2023. Still pretty viable as my 1700x felt for the most part.
Missing AVX512 is not likely to matter since its use is mainly constrained to datacenter and HPC applications, if that. Even on modern Intel CPUs it's not consistently present. I think the GPUs are more likely to age out of relevance before this generation of CPUs does, mainly because of raytracing as you mentioned.
@@Powerman293I watched comparisons between many PS3 games with it turned on vs off for an i7-12700K, basically no difference. I have an i7-12700K with AVX512, supposedly for the Switch, AVX512 can boost fps, at the end it doesn't. In fact, i lose fps because there are less cores available. Memory makes a bigger difference. DDR5 creates a far more stable experience than DDR4.
Consequence of tech slowing down. In the 90s, a rig could become outdated within two years or even less if you want to actually play the latest games with good settings. Within 4 years, it became unusable. My first gpu was a Nvidia RIVA 128. Half-life came out just a year later, and it ran like ass. It didn't play well until I upgraded to a Voodoo 3, which also started feeling slow in less than two years when it came to the latest games. Things have changed in the last decade. It's one of the reasons why budget gpus these days are just old second hand gpus. There hasn't been enough advancement on the low end.
I built a mITX custom loop back in 2017 with a 8700k that I swapped for a 8086k and 1080ti. I haven't felt the need to upgrade still as I max out my 1440p 144hz monitor in Overwatch.
In 2018, I built my more budget oriented system with a Ryzen 1500x on a B450 board, paired with a GTX 1060 6GB and 16GB of RAM. For the years I used it through the pandemic, it held up really well for the 1080p 60 performance I was targeting! Upgrading to a Zen 3 based 5700g and 32GB of RAM still held up well with the 1060’s performance until I finally replaced it with a used 3070 earlier this year, and jumped to 13th gen Intel. Even without the best top of the line hardware, this era of PC components held up shockingly well and was a great performer during the pandemic era!
You invest a lot of time and passion in your videos and it is very apparent. Spot on benchmarks, joke here and there and nice camera work makes it joy to watch... even more then once. Jumping straight to 1080ti review. Keep it up mate, good job.
STILL running my HP OMEN i7-8700 w/ 2080. Haven't seen a reason to upgrade just yet. I game at 1440p, and for that it's still beyond excellent. I've added RAM to make 32gb, and added, or upgraded storage to something more modern. But I'd venture I have another year or two with it. Got it on a BF deal in 2018 for $1099 I believe.
my i7-9700K system built in 2019 is still kicking ass and competing very well with some of the newer intel gens. Going to OC it soon as I got a 360mm rad for it to see what I can get out of it :)
10:19 the dx 12 stutters are the way the shaders cache, that stuttering is common on any dx12 title if you have just updated drivers/changed texture settings/changed gpu, so while testing different settings and resolutions and cards, you'll get stuttering because the shader cache is compiling behind the scenes, and it resets on every setting change and driver change. it can also take multiple games worth of play to go away.
That was fun. I'm still using an i7-7700k system, but for much less demanding photo editing and occasional video editing. I really can't imagine spending the kind of money the current components command and I'm not surprised to see that GPU sales are slowing.
Can confirm: the 1080ti carried my gaming experience until a few months ago when I upgraded to a 4080 and just a drop in upgrade for the CPU: from the 6800k to the 6950x. All in all a €800 investment after over 6 years, where €700 was the GPU(sold the 1080ti and got a nice deal off amazon). Thanks to DX12 the 6950x with its 10 cores seems still viable in all games that I play.
I just built my wife a PC using these exact parts. I7-8700, 32gb of Trident Z, on a MSI Z390-Pro paired it with a 2070 Super and it runs everything I've thrown at it at 1080P. I got the CPU, Ram, and Motherboard for 75 bucks locally. It's insane how much performance you can get if you are willing to look a bit.
Spending less and going with say a 1600x would cost much less. With the money saved, you could upgrade to a R5 3600 and then to a 5800x3d - altogether with the same budget, once you factor in resale values. My point here is that rolling upgrades are better than future proofing.
I was on a 1070ti with an i7-8700 until late last year and it could run most of these games at medium to high at 1080p so it makes sense that this pc does so well
I'm bought this hardware combination in 2018 and I'm using it to this day, although with the slightly faster Titan Xp. The 8700K with 16GB 3200MT/s RAM and NVME SSD are still super quick. The only viable GPU upgrade would be a 3090 but the Titan Xp is still plenty fast for many years to come.
it's isn't relevance to this video but iceburge is reason i looked at rx6900xt prices and i snatch one for exactly one dollar more than 260$ used.(my poor 3570k) so thx iceburge for the look out. and amazing work as always.
I got a dell inspirion 5675 for $1000 which was a not too bad deal back then in 2017, but now it's barely worth $400 in price terms since it had a ryzen 7 1700 with RX 580.
To a point, games haven't moved on from 2017. Last gen consoles are still being supported after all, and the big moves in the PC space are all up-scaling. Not to mention the 1060 is still the most common GPU used on steam. It's the longest I can remember GPU's staying relevant. Also, play Rise of the tomb raider. lol
I remember upgrade my gaming/work PC from X58 i9 950 and 3 HD5870 CF, i used this system untill 2017 upgrade to AMD Threadripper 1950X (new) and GTX 1070 Ti (new), and currently still rocking same X399 but upgrade to 2950X (used) with RTX 3080 (used) and 120Hz 4K monitor (new) & it works good for my daily needs.
@@AndersHass I am rocking the i7 7700k (i didn't overclock it as my mobo don't support it) it run cyber punk at 80 fps on 1080p low. yes, the only thing lacking is win 11 support but you can do some tweaking and run it
@@nikestream5013 yes you can unofficially make various CPUs work on Windows 11. Your GPU also matters how well your gaming performance is but getting 80 fps in cyberpunk is pretty decent if that is the CPU bottleneck.
I wish I had been wise enough at the time to just save my money up and buy parts like these back then. I'd honestly still use a rig like this today, no problem. It'll probably need upgraded in a year or two once Unreal 5 games are everywhere but getting 5 or 6 years out of one rig would be awesome.
I used to review hardware back then. But Covid ended that real quick. Haven't had a pc since. My buddy recent gave me an 8700k, 3200 of ram a z370 strix and a Poseidon 980 ti. I'm shocked at how well it runs games still.
If you had wanted to do another 2017 RTS benchmark, Halo Wars 2 released in February of that year. 2018 might not have seen many hot new games, but it did see a port of the fairly demanding Final Fantasy XV, which certainly was on my radar (I owned a 1070 at the time).
Core I7 7700k plus 980ti of early 2017 was a keeper😁 unfortunately with bf2042 it was overburdened, still regret to buy this game😣 Now i will try to keep the 5600x as long as possible, still strong.
I'm doing something similar now for a friend. GTX 1080, Ryzen 2600, and several other bits (minus PSU and m.2 ssd) that are cheap now, but were badass in the past.
I built a similar system in summer 2018. R7 1700 and 1080 ti, 16gb rama in a meshify c. I still use this PC for work(photo editing and large format printing) and it still games well! If I were to upgrade anything, I'd get 32gb ram and a new CPU and motherboard.
I actually had basically this PC. I had a system with the HEDT 6800K and a pair of Titan Xps in Sli. I sold one of the Titans when I stopped doing simulation workloads. I also sold the 6800K and its motherboard, and managed to pick up an 8700K and Z370motherboard with 32GB of DDR4 3000 (overclocked from 2667). I still only had HDDs but I had a pair in RAID0 for that extra speed. That 8700K is still kicking for a friend who bought the other Titan Xp from me, and I ran the first one with a 9900K right up to my purchase of a 13900K and a 7900XTX. It's my first time daily driving a Radeon card since the HD7900 series, so it feels right that the 7900 has found its way back into my PC.
My previous build (built in 2018) was pretty similar to what you tested, 8700k, z370 board, corsair 2x8gb, SN550 and a GTX 1070Ti. The 1080Ti was a dream but too expensive for me back then. Unfortunately the 1070Ti died in January 2022 and I replaced it with a 2070 Super. It was a sweet system, quite capable but it was time to upgrade.
Had an 8700K/1070TI setup for a good 4-5 years. It never really struggled doing anything, with the 8700k sat on a 5.1ghz overclock chewing 120+ watts and the 1070ti on a wee overclock. It was still a very effective gaming pc when i dropped the innards into a different case to use a work PC (graphics stuff) for my girlfriend. Filled the hole in my case with a 13600k and a 3080, nice upgrade and will do me a few more years yet at 1440p. Also: 46 with 40 low being 'suprisingly playable' when Starfield on the series X struggles to mantain 30fps. Lols.
I am still using the 1080 Ti and the 7700K, the GPU age greate, the CPU not so much but was available 1 year earlier than the 8700K and the price of the RAM was much cheaper at the begining of 2017.
Im still running a i7 8700 non k with a 6800. Sometimes I feel like upgrading the cpu but I think its more than fast enough to last at least a couple more years
I've said it many times and I'll say it again lol: LONG LIVE SANDY BRIDGE! My OG "high(er) end" build that lasted me almost 10 years was an i7-2600K + 2.5GB EVGA GTX 570 + 16GB (4GB x 4) 1600Mhz CL9 DDR3. And it was GLORIOUS, managed to crawl it's way into 2020 before that ol DDR3 RAM straight up died and I finally grabbed a second hand R5 2600, B450 Tomahawk, Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, and 16GB (8GB x 2) of DDR4 @ 3200Mhz RAM (this was new however cause fuck RAM shenanigans). That build was equally as special to me, my first "modern-ish" build. I was just really happy to be able to play modern games that I was previously unable to due to the lack of instruction sets or GPU driver support. But my taste for higher quality PC gaming wasn't fully satisfied, so I aimed a bit higher when prices were just right and dropped a R5 5600 in my B450 to replace the 2600, along with an RTX 3060 Ti. This was last summer, but I sold the R5 2600 and RX 580 to a local teen who was trying to get his first "1080p" gaming PC up and running. Sold the 580 for $100 (what I paid for it) and at THAT time like 25-40% less than market average so I didn't scalp him whatsoever. Sold the 2600 for like $50 iirc. Felt kinda like I was almost giving that away, since it was worth considerably more just 3-4 years prior & not a bad CPU in the slightest. That's just the name of the game though, if better stuff comes out for a reasonable price then previous gen parts lose their value. I also couldn't feel THAT bad getting $50 for a CPU that was replaced with one that was substantially more powerful/capable in every aspect. For $150 new at Micro Center just 5 weeks or so after launch. 5600x didn't make any sense at $199 with the two being so identical in performance. So really just spent $100 on my CPU upgrade. 3060 Ti was $340 lol, a decent chunk of my wallet for sure but a hell of a deal at the time. My area was still tossing them around second hand for $450 & $500+ for a 3070. This one was new/open box with proof of purchase and everything :)
You can see from the monitoring OSD that the 1080Ti still isn't a problem for 8700k. Had mine paired with a 1080, 2080 and 3090, only the latter pushing the CPU to it's limits. A beast of a processor I must say.
This is what I've been saying about the 8700k and 1080ti to everyone for years. I purchased an 8700k when it first came out, performed the LM mod a few years ago while pairing it with a 1070, and now I have a 1080ti that I purchased that was damaged and fixed by myself just last year. The 1080ti CORE TEMP rarely exceeds 70c until it is fully utilized, at which point its maximum temperature is 72c, usually around 45c-65 gaming. Whereas the 8700k never exceeds 65c gaming or editing. The 8700k was the first 5GHz processor out of the box. Benchmarking Furmark reveals that my 8700k achieves 82c Max Stress testing after an hour with a Peerless Assassin cooler.
so glad you are talking about theese builds!! im currently still swaping my cpus out of my 8th/9th gen mother board Currently rocking the 8086k Limited edition but hopibg to upgrade to a 9900kS .. waiting on those prices to drop, also rocking x2 vega 64s and 1 frontier edition on Asus ws z390 pro on 128gb ram to take advantage of vega cards ram sharing.
I paired my 8700k with a 3060ti last year and it's still doing really well! I stay at 1080p for fps games. I'm going to rock it till it dies, if it ever does...
Back in 2010 I remember my hd5570 - i3-310 build couldn’t run anything at 60fps after a year! In 2017 I decided to build a high end pc (1080ti-8700k) and i hoped i could play games at max settings for 2 years. It’s been 6 years and I’m still playing most games at max settings in 1440p lol. Not planning to upgrade anytime soon
I replaced a 4790K / 1080Ti Strix build about a year ago. But frankly, that was mainly to access NVME, a need for more pcie lanes, and run a new large format 4k monitor. For 1440p non-ray tracing, the old build still works just fine. 4 core 8 threads, 4.5ghz boost handles cpu work surprisingly well. And a 1080 Ti Strix OC (roughly 9% OC) is about on par with 3060 Ti in non ray tracing, but with more V-ram. Now on 7900X and 4090 TUF OC. I expect at least another 6 years out of it (probably more with DLSS as a fallback). Although I'll likely replace the 7900X with whatever "X3D" chip AMD makes at the end of AM5's socket life. Like the old build, I'm starting this out with overkill hardware, undervolted and downclocked (for thermals, longevity, & power bill), and will add juice as needed later. Pricey? Yes. But if I can get double the years out of it... there's some long term back-loaded savings which offset the cost considerably.
I think a video should be done on the settings that should be suggested for each resolution. I think the most extreme for each resolution might not be realistic for most people while also not favoring performance. I'd love to know the smartest general setting for 1080/1440/2160.
The first Pc that I put together myself had the same components except for using 32gb of Ram rather than 16gb. I loved that build and still wish that I hadn't sold it but it brought me a decent chunk of money when I sold it during 2020. That 8700k overclocked so well with the 360mm rad that I used!
I got an 8700k right after the 9900k launched. It's in a Z390 motherboard and I'm giving it to my friend's niece. I have the 9900k as well and only retired in January. Hopefully this 7700x and RTX 4090 have a solid 5 years in them.
Love your videos! So much effort put into them! But could you consider uploading at 1440p60 or even 2160p60? 1080p60 is such a terrible low bitrate mess on UA-cam…
Argh... I know, I know. I used to upload in 4K on my old channel, but when I switched back to 1080 I loved how much easier it was to work with the footage! Maybe 1440P would be a good compromise. My capture card can handle 1440/60 at least, but I'll have to invest in (another) new hard drive... 😩
@@IcebergTech Even if you just export (upscale) your 1080p timeline to 1440p for the upload it already helps a lot. 1080p is just so bitrate starved, so even having a 1080p image upscaled to 1440p or even 4K looks so much better on UA-cam…
16:07 should read 3840x2160. Oops!
I got a dell inspirion 5675 for $1000 which was a not too bad deal back then in 2017 for a ryzen 7 1700 and RX 580, but now it's barely worth $400 in price points. It really shows that the crypto dummies were literally price gouging cpus and gpus .Ironic considering the Ryzen 7 1800x was worth $500 launch but since then the Ryzen 5 5600G launched at half it's price with integrated graphics too. Moral of the story: do not buy a dells with locked bios in which you cannot upgrade to gen 2 ryzens.
don't tell me to read
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It’s okay I solved it 💪🏻🤟🏻🛸
I see you used the gta5 test run route that Wormz uses. ;)
What's interesting to me is that you could achieve this level of performance today with an rx 5700 for 150$ and an rzyen 3600 for around 70$.
This pairing is extremely good for budget builds for sure!
Can confirm. I upgraded from a 5700 XT and 3700x machine over the last few months.
In my experience there's not a ton of difference between the 3600 and 3700x in gaming. And neither is going to hold back a 5700XT to a meaningful degree.
I got the 5700XT in 2019 just a couple months before the crypto boom and pandemic caused prices to be ridiculous. But getting that amount of performance for ~$150 is pretty insane. The 5700XT still holds it's own in 1440p gaming, imo.
i’ve had an rx 5700 since late 2019. i can’t believe i’m saying this, but the performance of this GPU literally made me forget the need of any new GPU. However, my 2700x leaves a lot to be desired in some games (BeamNG especially)
@@zhila5958 In some games, even the 3600 was holding my 5700XT back (specifically, AC Odyssey). I recently upgraded to the R7 5700X and there is definitely a fair bit of difference at QHD UW resolution.
RX 5700 does not match a 1080 Ti
I am still using my pc with an i7 8700k and gtx 1070ti. It has aged like fine wine, especially with 32gb of RAM.
The 8700K was an awesome CPU when it released, and still is today. Push that bad boy to 5GHz and you're set for another 2-3 years, I reckon. Lack of AVX-512 instructions shouldn't really a problem since both 12th and 13th gen dropped support for it, anyway.
Still using a 4770k@4.4ghz as my daily driver... It's fine, or so I tell myself.
@@DyceFreakI was still using a 4770 non k until April of this year 🤣. Could surprisingly still hold up well with a lot of modern titles. Upgraded to i5 13400f since though and yep it's a massive improvement.
LOL
@@lurch789console emulation requires a beefy cpu over anything else, you’re better off with newer CPUs
My 12700K is an AVX512 batch from 2021, it makes no difference for the emulated games.
The beefy IPC is all what i need + 8 p-cores.
This video speaks so much, during 2017-2018 I went full out for the first time on a PC and bought the i7 8700k
(369€ at release from one of my retailers, 429€ was the normal selling price in my country).
Also with 32GB of Kingston HyperX RAM (Paid about 358€ in RAM lmao) and MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X 11G (899€) at their release.
Also ~182,90€ on a MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon ATX Motherboard, still pushing to this day and only upgrade I have done is replacing all drives with nvme & SATA SSDs.
The day it gives up will be a sad day with a tear in my eye so many memories
Still using an EGVA 1080TI hybrid that i got new in my 16 year old's pc with a 5800x3D cpu. That card STILL rocks to this day!!!
The 1080ti was just tok good of a GPU! The i7 8700k was intel's first non 4 core i7, which was decent at the time
the i7 8700k wasn't decent.. It has ryzen 5 5600 level of perfomance but released 3.5 years early.. It was great and blew out of the water the ryzen competition..
@@Duuh_Eazy fr, was gonna say the same thing. That i7 980 still puts up a fight in 2023.
@@Duuh_Eazy was the i7 980 on a consumer level motherboard?
@@Duuh_Eazy i think they mean mainsteam
@@sergioramos1287amd fanboys don’t want to admit they’ve been battling with the same 2015 Skylake architecture up until 5800x3d.
Decently oced Intels are still shredding through games, and arguably are more stable with lesser dips.
This is exactly the system I built in late 2017. Same cpu and gpu. Aside from upgrading the ram and adding some additional storage, its the same pc today and it still kicks ass. I usually aim for components that will age well... my previous pc was an i7 2600k and radeon 7970. That system also aged very well and is still useable today.
I upgraded in early 2017 and made the questionable decision of getting an i5-6600k (going from an FX 8320 because it had gotten unstable) because I wanted Windows 7 compatibility, instead of waiting a month to get a Ryzen 5 1600.
I also upgraded from an HD 7850 1GB to an RX 480 8GB which was a great choice since it lasted me until just a few months ago.
you can put a mutant notebook CPU with 8 cores in that motherboard
R5 1600 to R5 5800x3d would've been an amazing upgrade
@@mircomputerser in a socket 1151 mobo? Would love more details
@@mircomputers please do explain
What have you upgraded to ?
I bought a 8700k on release and it was a great CPU, I kept it until I upgraded to 12th gen because if you checked benchmarks a 5.0 GHz 8700k competed very well all the way up through 11tth gen. Mine was delidded which made a huge difference in temps. I didn't have the 1080 Ti but a 1080.
I was in a store on the day of the coffee lake launch and was choosing between that and an zen1 cpu. Was so interested by the ryzen cpus that I got an 1600 ie I aimed at as much similarities spec wise as an 8700k but holy moly what a disappointment the r5 was, but lets be fair here, If I stuck with that mobo I would be able to just shove an 5800x3d in it and be done with it, too bad I upgraded to all am4 chipset but the x370 and x570 for am5 when I got another am4 cpu :D
haha I also bought an 8700k and gtx 1080 back in 2018. still rocking the 6 core to this day!!
same, upgraded only once 12th Gen dropped and I still use that 8700k. delidded as well
I'm still rocking my 2017 build:
2x Nvidia 1080 Ti FE (SLI'd)
Intel i7 7700k (4.8 GHz)
32 GB 3600 MHz Trident-Z RGB
Asus Max IX F MoBo
1 TB Samsung EVO NVME SSD
Corsair AX1500i PSU
Corsair 750D Case (w/ optional panels)
Completely unchanged other than adding 24 TB of SSD storage. It does everything; literally paid for itself.
Can it still play modern games?
24TBs? And hear i thought my 12TBs was alot of ssd storage lol
Thanks!
found your channel with your i7-2600 video some months ago. now im a daily viewer. love the quality overall and the videos are so entertaining! rooting for this channel to thrive!🔥
Damn! Aging like fine wine my friend. Very nice build.
I have a 3600X 5700XT rig that I am very optimistic about its lifespan. I use it on my living room TV at 1080p and at that res I expect it to hold its own for a good few years yet. Likewise the 6800XT in my main rig hasn't even seen much competition from its own successors, so I am hopeful it'll see me through for a good few years. Quietly hopeful the 5800X3D comes down to bargain price in a couple of generations, and then I'll be able to squeeze even longer out of the board.
People complain about hardware stagnating but fuck that, I am all in favour of it. Having hardware stay relevant for longer is nice.
I have an 8600K @ 4,6 Ghz since 2018. At first, it was combined with 1080 non-Ti, now with 3060 Ti. Still quite capable for 1440p.
The 1080ti was my dream GPU for to many years. I would actually still be inclined to buy one. I also had a soft spot for that i7 but my i5 10400f doesn't have much performance difference from the 8700k.
Same here... When i finally saved up for my "Dream GPU" it wasn't "brand new" anymore, so i jumped from gtx 680 all the way into rtx 2000 series [2060]
@@Noa15Lvgtx 680? Geez
Still running that 2060?
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Not anymore.. Made an upgrade to 2080s in the same year, cause i made mistake by buying 1440p monitor...
3 Years later, basically just recently, upgraded to "used" rtx 3090.
I actually bought one a year ago! If you're still tempted the prices are falling pretty steadily every month! Last time I checked Nvidia founders cards are going for around $230
This was basically my exact build back then, wonderful to see how well it’s aged. The 1080ti is still my favourite card of all time, what an absolute beast.
definitely one of the best cards nvidia have ever made
wow, a 2000$ maxed out pc with the highest end cpu and gpu lasted 5 years!!!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯
today high end gpu only will cost you 1700$🥲
in the US, a build like this would cost 1.5/1.7K if you didn’t get stupid stuff or overkill stuff. not 2k lmao. it also has the ability to run on ultra and not locked to 30 fps low(cough cough ps4)
It's very impressive considering how performant all these parts still are in modern titles, the price of comparable high end components today, and the cost of these used parts currently in the used market
I do tons of benching, a Haswell i7 4770K with a GTX1060 6gb will do over 60fps in most games at 1440p. An 8700K with a 1080ti is still a beast especially when you know how to properly overclock them. I bought an 8700K new beginning of 2018 and if I wasn't doing videos and getting back into overclocking in the league it would still be my main CPU. They really can make use of high speed memory too unlike Ryzens. My GPU would be my GTX1070 still but I have got more powerful ones now too.
@@theHardwareBench 60fps at 1440p with a 1060? In which games? Csgo, valorant and peppa the pig?
My daily driver is still a 1700X, B350 and all. The lack of upgrades, (bar a swap out from a 10603GB to a 5700XT), isn't because I couldn't, but I just haven't felt it to be necessary. I still get 60+ frame rates in every game I want to play on a Medium-High mixture, my media export times are still great and even my terrible 2400mhz DDR4 is totally acceptable. The late 2010s were like a second golden era of PC hardware.
and you could always bios update and jump to a 5000 series if you really needed to!
@@interrobangings 1700x to 5800X3D without having to buy a new motherboard is insane
I still have a 1700x and a vega 64 in one of my PCs. It still chugs along in everything I do.
I had a B350 board on my 1600, it degraded the VRM's even at stock speed. I've got an X570 ROG board with 3700X, no problems. I wasn't impressed with my 1700x or 1600 but the 3700X seems pretty good, not benched it against my 8700K yet but I think it will compare well. Does yours have a big delay when you press the power button before it actually starts loading windows like both my Ryzen systems did? The 1700X was on a ROG X370 Hero board but it still wasn't a good experience for me.
Few months ago I helped my sister to upgrade her AM4/B350 system from a Ryzen 3 1200 to a Ryzen 5 5600.
I think I made the right choice when choosing the platform even if the Ryzen 3 1200 wasn't that good even when new. It still did well for years with her old GTX 1050
A 2017 PC is in my mind still basically a new PC. It's one of those newfangled Ryzen-era PCs. I haven't gone any more modern than Devil's Canyon (or Skylake if you count my old school laptop).
Still running a 1080ti alongside my 11700k, up from a 980ti which still holds its own. Running a quad 1080p setup, because 4k still isn’t worth it if you’re not an artist.
I hope that avx512 doesn’t become mainstream, given that even Intel’s latest 12th gen, 13th gen doesn’t support it (well it does have the diet VNNi version)
Is it 8700k+1080Ti?
"One game that managed to appear in my Steam library (and yet I've never played) is F1 2018."
This is so relatable that I feel I should be allowed to sue for copyright infringement.
17:58 This shouldn't be an issue any time soon. Due to it's popularity the Steam Deck has given developers a very good spec target to optimize for, and since the Steam Deck doesn't have great ray-tracing performance it should allow cards that don't support ray-tracing at all to thrive for at least a few more years
I've got a 8700k delidded and overclocked with a overclocked 1080 I built the start of 2018. Does great, just built a new system, so I ordered a 4070 to replace the 1080 and it will become my son's new system. Going to flash the bios of the taichi mobo, add a 2 tb nvme, and repaste the cooler and I bet it will be good for another 4 to 5 years. Good gaming rig for my son.
Late 2018 would have been even better. 9900k & 2080ti..........immortal
yes but it is a *boring* thing to see. anyone can look at the pc parts of the current era and tell you that there is not enough technological advancement.
those parts will last you another 6-7 years from now. no problems.
Ive been running a 8gb 1070 and an I76700k and 2k/4k gaming since 2016, no plans to upgrade.
Right before covid i bought 2 pair of 16x2 ddr4 3600 corsair rgb something for 150... in the niddle of covid I listed them and they sold for 300 each.
Im glad prices have come down, its good for younger kids to get good rigs for a good price.
I am still gaming on my 8700k 1080ti to this day! This video made me smile. I guess i got super lucky with the timing of my first build. I built mine in august 2018.
Yeah it really depended on when you got the hardware in 2017. Early enough 2017 it would've been 7700k vs 1700 and late enough it was 8700k.
Honestly glad to see that you tested this stuff in 2023. Still pretty viable as my 1700x felt for the most part.
8700k made it to my country with sane prices only in late 2018.
Missing AVX512 is not likely to matter since its use is mainly constrained to datacenter and HPC applications, if that. Even on modern Intel CPUs it's not consistently present. I think the GPUs are more likely to age out of relevance before this generation of CPUs does, mainly because of raytracing as you mentioned.
AVX 512 is only relevant for gaming when doing PS3 emulation.
@@Powerman293I watched comparisons between many PS3 games with it turned on vs off for an i7-12700K, basically no difference.
I have an i7-12700K with AVX512, supposedly for the Switch, AVX512 can boost fps, at the end it doesn't. In fact, i lose fps because there are less cores available.
Memory makes a bigger difference. DDR5 creates a far more stable experience than DDR4.
@@Powerman293If you use AVX512, shader compilation would take 40% more time to finish.
Consequence of tech slowing down. In the 90s, a rig could become outdated within two years or even less if you want to actually play the latest games with good settings. Within 4 years, it became unusable. My first gpu was a Nvidia RIVA 128. Half-life came out just a year later, and it ran like ass. It didn't play well until I upgraded to a Voodoo 3, which also started feeling slow in less than two years when it came to the latest games.
Things have changed in the last decade. It's one of the reasons why budget gpus these days are just old second hand gpus. There hasn't been enough advancement on the low end.
I built a mITX custom loop back in 2017 with a 8700k that I swapped for a 8086k and 1080ti. I haven't felt the need to upgrade still as I max out my 1440p 144hz monitor in Overwatch.
In 2018, I built my more budget oriented system with a Ryzen 1500x on a B450 board, paired with a GTX 1060 6GB and 16GB of
RAM. For the years I used it through the pandemic, it held up really well for the 1080p 60 performance I was targeting! Upgrading to a Zen 3 based 5700g and 32GB of RAM still held up well with the 1060’s performance until I finally replaced it with a used 3070 earlier this year, and jumped to 13th gen Intel.
Even without the best top of the line hardware, this era of PC components held up shockingly well and was a great performer during the pandemic era!
You invest a lot of time and passion in your videos and it is very apparent. Spot on benchmarks, joke here and there and nice camera work makes it joy to watch... even more then once. Jumping straight to 1080ti review. Keep it up mate, good job.
STILL running my HP OMEN i7-8700 w/ 2080. Haven't seen a reason to upgrade just yet. I game at 1440p, and for that it's still beyond excellent. I've added RAM to make 32gb, and added, or upgraded storage to something more modern. But I'd venture I have another year or two with it. Got it on a BF deal in 2018 for $1099 I believe.
“The only difference between my life in 2017 and 2023…” the subs baby! Look at that growth
Always a stellar review my man! Much appreciated.
I am the 777th like of the video
Lulz, 2017? Did you mean 2017 with a 1080 Ti before Etherium where the 1050 Ti became mainstream during Etherium?
my i7-9700K system built in 2019 is still kicking ass and competing very well with some of the newer intel gens. Going to OC it soon as I got a 360mm rad for it to see what I can get out of it :)
10:19 the dx 12 stutters are the way the shaders cache, that stuttering is common on any dx12 title if you have just updated drivers/changed texture settings/changed gpu, so while testing different settings and resolutions and cards, you'll get stuttering because the shader cache is compiling behind the scenes, and it resets on every setting change and driver change.
it can also take multiple games worth of play to go away.
That was fun. I'm still using an i7-7700k system, but for much less demanding photo editing and occasional video editing. I really can't imagine spending the kind of money the current components command and I'm not surprised to see that GPU sales are slowing.
It's crazy how a 6 year old GPU is still such a beast. If you had a 6 year old GPU in 2017, you couln't even play games at low on 1080p on 60 fps.
Can confirm: the 1080ti carried my gaming experience until a few months ago when I upgraded to a 4080 and just a drop in upgrade for the CPU: from the 6800k to the 6950x. All in all a €800 investment after over 6 years, where €700 was the GPU(sold the 1080ti and got a nice deal off amazon).
Thanks to DX12 the 6950x with its 10 cores seems still viable in all games that I play.
I just built my wife a PC using these exact parts. I7-8700, 32gb of Trident Z, on a MSI Z390-Pro paired it with a 2070 Super and it runs everything I've thrown at it at 1080P. I got the CPU, Ram, and Motherboard for 75 bucks locally. It's insane how much performance you can get if you are willing to look a bit.
I had a 6600K / GTX 1070 build that I put together in 2016 and it lasted me all the way up to black Friday 2022
Spending less and going with say a 1600x would cost much less. With the money saved, you could upgrade to a R5 3600 and then to a 5800x3d - altogether with the same budget, once you factor in resale values. My point here is that rolling upgrades are better than future proofing.
I was on a 1070ti with an i7-8700 until late last year and it could run most of these games at medium to high at 1080p so it makes sense that this pc does so well
I'm bought this hardware combination in 2018 and I'm using it to this day, although with the slightly faster Titan Xp. The 8700K with 16GB 3200MT/s RAM and NVME SSD are still super quick. The only viable GPU upgrade would be a 3090 but the Titan Xp is still plenty fast for many years to come.
I've recently gotten my hands on a HAF X, it's rad. 200mm fans everywhere, 7 x HDD slots. The only downside is no front panel Type C.
cheers iceberg tech
it's isn't relevance to this video but iceburge is reason i looked at rx6900xt prices and i snatch one for exactly one dollar more than 260$ used.(my poor 3570k)
so thx iceburge for the look out.
and amazing work as always.
I got a dell inspirion 5675 for $1000 which was a not too bad deal back then in 2017, but now it's barely worth $400 in price terms since it had a ryzen 7 1700 with RX 580.
To a point, games haven't moved on from 2017. Last gen consoles are still being supported after all, and the big moves in the PC space are all up-scaling. Not to mention the 1060 is still the most common GPU used on steam. It's the longest I can remember GPU's staying relevant.
Also, play Rise of the tomb raider. lol
This kind of stuff is my bread and butter so i will subscribed
I remember upgrade my gaming/work PC from X58 i9 950 and 3 HD5870 CF, i used this system untill 2017 upgrade to AMD Threadripper 1950X (new) and GTX 1070 Ti (new), and currently still rocking same X399 but upgrade to 2950X (used) with RTX 3080 (used) and 120Hz 4K monitor (new) & it works good for my daily needs.
My i7 7700t is still kickin despite its age
my 7200u is not doing that lol 😂
It's struggling while playing EA games and in emulation. But other than that it's still very good.
Only shame is it isn’t official Windows 11 support. But maybe you are using Linux, lol.
@@AndersHass I am rocking the i7 7700k (i didn't overclock it as my mobo don't support it) it run cyber punk at 80 fps on 1080p low. yes, the only thing lacking is win 11 support but you can do some tweaking and run it
@@nikestream5013 yes you can unofficially make various CPUs work on Windows 11.
Your GPU also matters how well your gaming performance is but getting 80 fps in cyberpunk is pretty decent if that is the CPU bottleneck.
9:13 You missed the perfect opportunity to have him say "SEAN!" instead. XD
I'm still running a 8700k and 1080ti, but it's been reduced to being the "tv pc", for 1080p gaming. Still can do it all and will for years to come.
I wish I had been wise enough at the time to just save my money up and buy parts like these back then. I'd honestly still use a rig like this today, no problem. It'll probably need upgraded in a year or two once Unreal 5 games are everywhere but getting 5 or 6 years out of one rig would be awesome.
I used to review hardware back then. But Covid ended that real quick. Haven't had a pc since. My buddy recent gave me an 8700k, 3200 of ram a z370 strix and a Poseidon 980 ti. I'm shocked at how well it runs games still.
In late 2016 early 2017 I built my first gaming pc. 6700k, 1070, 460x case and 16gb of ddr4
If you had wanted to do another 2017 RTS benchmark, Halo Wars 2 released in February of that year.
2018 might not have seen many hot new games, but it did see a port of the fairly demanding Final Fantasy XV, which certainly was on my radar (I owned a 1070 at the time).
Core I7 7700k plus 980ti of early 2017 was a keeper😁 unfortunately with bf2042 it was overburdened, still regret to buy this game😣 Now i will try to keep the 5600x as long as possible, still strong.
5600x is really a beast when it comes to game performance.
I'm doing something similar now for a friend. GTX 1080, Ryzen 2600, and several other bits (minus PSU and m.2 ssd) that are cheap now, but were badass in the past.
Ive only just found your channel with this video, and I'm now subscribed! You have a certain presentation style reminicense of the Nostalgia Nerd!
Ayyyyy, the Cooler Master HAF! I still have its brother, the HAF XB EVO.
I built a similar system in summer 2018. R7 1700 and 1080 ti, 16gb rama in a meshify c.
I still use this PC for work(photo editing and large format printing) and it still games well! If I were to upgrade anything, I'd get 32gb ram and a new CPU and motherboard.
finally - year based pc build video! U made it - nice! keep it up cheers 🤙
My mate got a HAF case in the early 2000s and it was gargantuan. I'll never forget it and have great respect for its presence.
I like the humour in this vid👌
I actually had basically this PC. I had a system with the HEDT 6800K and a pair of Titan Xps in Sli. I sold one of the Titans when I stopped doing simulation workloads. I also sold the 6800K and its motherboard, and managed to pick up an 8700K and Z370motherboard with 32GB of DDR4 3000 (overclocked from 2667). I still only had HDDs but I had a pair in RAID0 for that extra speed.
That 8700K is still kicking for a friend who bought the other Titan Xp from me, and I ran the first one with a 9900K right up to my purchase of a 13900K and a 7900XTX. It's my first time daily driving a Radeon card since the HD7900 series, so it feels right that the 7900 has found its way back into my PC.
My previous build (built in 2018) was pretty similar to what you tested, 8700k, z370 board, corsair 2x8gb, SN550 and a GTX 1070Ti. The 1080Ti was a dream but too expensive for me back then. Unfortunately the 1070Ti died in January 2022 and I replaced it with a 2070 Super. It was a sweet system, quite capable but it was time to upgrade.
Had an 8700K/1070TI setup for a good 4-5 years. It never really struggled doing anything, with the 8700k sat on a 5.1ghz overclock chewing 120+ watts and the 1070ti on a wee overclock. It was still a very effective gaming pc when i dropped the innards into a different case to use a work PC (graphics stuff) for my girlfriend. Filled the hole in my case with a 13600k and a 3080, nice upgrade and will do me a few more years yet at 1440p.
Also: 46 with 40 low being 'suprisingly playable' when Starfield on the series X struggles to mantain 30fps. Lols.
I am still using the 1080 Ti and the 7700K, the GPU age greate, the CPU not so much but was available 1 year earlier than the 8700K and the price of the RAM was much cheaper at the begining of 2017.
I love this channel so much
I’m still using my pc built with an i7-8700k, 32gb ram and a 1060 6gb and it can still run most games today at 100~fps it’s crazy how it’s aged
Im still running a i7 8700 non k with a 6800. Sometimes I feel like upgrading the cpu but I think its more than fast enough to last at least a couple more years
I've said it many times and I'll say it again lol:
LONG LIVE SANDY BRIDGE! My OG "high(er) end" build that lasted me almost 10 years was an i7-2600K + 2.5GB EVGA GTX 570 + 16GB (4GB x 4) 1600Mhz CL9 DDR3. And it was GLORIOUS, managed to crawl it's way into 2020 before that ol DDR3 RAM straight up died and I finally grabbed a second hand R5 2600, B450 Tomahawk, Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, and 16GB (8GB x 2) of DDR4 @ 3200Mhz RAM (this was new however cause fuck RAM shenanigans). That build was equally as special to me, my first "modern-ish" build. I was just really happy to be able to play modern games that I was previously unable to due to the lack of instruction sets or GPU driver support. But my taste for higher quality PC gaming wasn't fully satisfied, so I aimed a bit higher when prices were just right and dropped a R5 5600 in my B450 to replace the 2600, along with an RTX 3060 Ti. This was last summer, but I sold the R5 2600 and RX 580 to a local teen who was trying to get his first "1080p" gaming PC up and running. Sold the 580 for $100 (what I paid for it) and at THAT time like 25-40% less than market average so I didn't scalp him whatsoever. Sold the 2600 for like $50 iirc. Felt kinda like I was almost giving that away, since it was worth considerably more just 3-4 years prior & not a bad CPU in the slightest. That's just the name of the game though, if better stuff comes out for a reasonable price then previous gen parts lose their value. I also couldn't feel THAT bad getting $50 for a CPU that was replaced with one that was substantially more powerful/capable in every aspect. For $150 new at Micro Center just 5 weeks or so after launch. 5600x didn't make any sense at $199 with the two being so identical in performance. So really just spent $100 on my CPU upgrade. 3060 Ti was $340 lol, a decent chunk of my wallet for sure but a hell of a deal at the time. My area was still tossing them around second hand for $450 & $500+ for a 3070. This one was new/open box with proof of purchase and everything :)
You can see from the monitoring OSD that the 1080Ti still isn't a problem for 8700k. Had mine paired with a 1080, 2080 and 3090, only the latter pushing the CPU to it's limits. A beast of a processor I must say.
18:25 Lol, 12th and 13th gen don't support AVX-512 either.
Yes they actually kinda do
@@mitsuhh Only pre-2022 12th Gen chips though, and you neeed to disable E cores.
@@Le_Grand_Rigatoni Also nothing the average person does on a PC even uses AVX 512
NIce video, the 8700K was almost imposible to buy until 2018, 1080 ti was available many months earlier but the 7700K was the top CPU back then.
This is what I've been saying about the 8700k and 1080ti to everyone for years. I purchased an 8700k when it first came out, performed the LM mod a few years ago while pairing it with a 1070, and now I have a 1080ti that I purchased that was damaged and fixed by myself just last year.
The 1080ti CORE TEMP rarely exceeds 70c until it is fully utilized, at which point its maximum temperature is 72c, usually around 45c-65 gaming. Whereas the 8700k never exceeds 65c gaming or editing. The 8700k was the first 5GHz processor out of the box. Benchmarking Furmark reveals that my 8700k achieves 82c Max Stress testing after an hour with a Peerless Assassin cooler.
Hey! I still have my 780ti plugged in and it works!!! Im right now in search of a new pc, my 10 year old is no longer "up to date"
This is awesome do another one!!!!!! Maybe 2010?? LOVE IT!
My pc still consists of an i5 8600k running at 4.5ghz all core and a GTX 1080.
Super happy with the performance to this day
8700K IPC is really outstanding
Here at 35.7k subs, great video.
so glad you are talking about theese builds!! im currently still swaping my cpus out of my 8th/9th gen mother board Currently rocking the 8086k Limited edition but hopibg to upgrade to a 9900kS .. waiting on those prices to drop, also rocking x2 vega 64s and 1 frontier edition on Asus ws z390 pro on 128gb ram to take advantage of vega cards ram sharing.
I paired my 8700k with a 3060ti last year and it's still doing really well! I stay at 1080p for fps games. I'm going to rock it till it dies, if it ever does...
Back in 2010 I remember my hd5570 - i3-310 build couldn’t run anything at 60fps after a year! In 2017 I decided to build a high end pc (1080ti-8700k) and i hoped i could play games at max settings for 2 years. It’s been 6 years and I’m still playing most games at max settings in 1440p lol. Not planning to upgrade anytime soon
I replaced a 4790K / 1080Ti Strix build about a year ago. But frankly, that was mainly to access NVME, a need for more pcie lanes, and run a new large format 4k monitor.
For 1440p non-ray tracing, the old build still works just fine.
4 core 8 threads, 4.5ghz boost handles cpu work surprisingly well. And a 1080 Ti Strix OC (roughly 9% OC) is about on par with 3060 Ti in non ray tracing, but with more V-ram.
Now on 7900X and 4090 TUF OC. I expect at least another 6 years out of it (probably more with DLSS as a fallback). Although I'll likely replace the 7900X with whatever "X3D" chip AMD makes at the end of AM5's socket life. Like the old build, I'm starting this out with overkill hardware, undervolted and downclocked (for thermals, longevity, & power bill), and will add juice as needed later. Pricey? Yes. But if I can get double the years out of it... there's some long term back-loaded savings which offset the cost considerably.
Cool rig,and great to see it !!
I think a video should be done on the settings that should be suggested for each resolution. I think the most extreme for each resolution might not be realistic for most people while also not favoring performance. I'd love to know the smartest general setting for 1080/1440/2160.
The first Pc that I put together myself had the same components except for using 32gb of Ram rather than 16gb. I loved that build and still wish that I hadn't sold it but it brought me a decent chunk of money when I sold it during 2020. That 8700k overclocked so well with the 360mm rad that I used!
I had an 8700k at 5.0Ghz with a 2070 back then and it was such a ripper for those times I miss that build
I got an 8700k right after the 9900k launched. It's in a Z390 motherboard and I'm giving it to my friend's niece. I have the 9900k as well and only retired in January. Hopefully this 7700x and RTX 4090 have a solid 5 years in them.
Love your videos! So much effort put into them! But could you consider uploading at 1440p60 or even 2160p60? 1080p60 is such a terrible low bitrate mess on UA-cam…
Argh... I know, I know. I used to upload in 4K on my old channel, but when I switched back to 1080 I loved how much easier it was to work with the footage!
Maybe 1440P would be a good compromise. My capture card can handle 1440/60 at least, but I'll have to invest in (another) new hard drive... 😩
@@IcebergTech Even if you just export (upscale) your 1080p timeline to 1440p for the upload it already helps a lot. 1080p is just so bitrate starved, so even having a 1080p image upscaled to 1440p or even 4K looks so much better on UA-cam…