I'm probably going to build a Broadwell-E system at some point. A 2697V4 is the only way I'm gonna afford a workstation with lots of cores. Might do a dual CPU build and have a poor man's threadripper.
@@joelferguson625 Nah, the 1080 Ti still has its use as a multi GPU card. People still want to do productivity on these things. Considering the Titan V has no NVLink or SLI support, either 2x Titan Xps or 4x Titan Maxwells would be the fastest GTX config in 2024. However im not sure which one is faster than the other.
@@joelferguson625considering most still use 1080p and 1440p only getting widely adopted in the last year and a half 1080 Ti’s are still very relevant. Those GPU’s are so good that they are still more then adequate for most people.
@@wearefromserbia9714more like 500-700 since the 4070 Super ti is technically considered a mid range card 😂. But seriously I run an xfx RX 6800 Core with 16Gb Vram and I'm looking forward to playing single player games on my 70" 4k at around 60fps.
@@joelferguson625its more of a mid-high end, inbetween those two. the regular 4060-4060 ti are mid range and are still stupidly expensive. the 4070, 4070 super, 4070 ti, and 4070 ti super are some of the better priced cards in the 40 series. not good prices of course as its still overpriced, but compared to the other cards in the 40 series lineup, they gave better price-performance ratio. amd is better, but if you want RTX then the 4070 lineup is the better choice if you want a decent price-performance with rtx. 4080 super is alright, but i’d take the 4070 ti super instead. its like $200 cheaper and still has 16gb of vram.
@@joelferguson625 the 4070 lineup is one of the best price-performance ratio cards in the 40 series if you want rtx performance. they’re still overpriced of course, but if you look at the other cards like the 4060 and 4080, they’re still the better priced lineup. 4070 ti super for $200 less to the 4080 super is really good, and it even has 16gb of vram considering the performance isnt far apart. while the 4070 lineup isnt priced well and is overprice for what they are and the competitors, they’re better priced compared to the other 40 series cards. this is just my take.
I had a SLI of 980, I bought the first on in 2014 (500€) and the second in 2016 (200€) with an 3770k (to upgrade from a 2500K). On supported games it was equivalent to a GTX1080. SLI was a good idea to keep your hardware longer. I upgraded the platform in 2018 with an I5 9600K and an SLI compatible motherboard and I kept the 980's until 2020, when I did upgrade to an RTX 3070. I think that multi-gpu tech is great even more now with VR, imagine having one GPU per eye, with good optimisation it can realy 2X the performance.
"with good optimization" yeah that's the issue. Optimizing your game or engine to use 2 GPUs at the same time is a pain in the ass and only a handful of people could really afford it.
Ah yes another old PC Gaming Test. It is really interesting to see how old pc parts keeping up to the game nowadays. Just got an used i7-7700K RX5700 and Z270 PC from used market for around $300 here and i really impressed by how the old PC part can keep up with some new games today. Keep up the good work!
@@superiorstonk1823 No. The XT model in used market here is still around $130-$150. I got my Non-XT model for just $100. The performance gap is also marginal so yeah i picking the Non-XT.
Still using an X99 setup. Really amazed on how an almost decade old platform can still deliver. I7-5930k MSI X99S Krait Edition 16GB DDR4 2133 RX Vega 56
hope you OCed that CPU to at least 4.5ghz. Why the crappy ram? You can get 32gb 8x4 3200mhz ram for 30-100$ depending where you buy and if it's new or used, I just bought 64gb 4x16 of used bdie on ebay for 110$. The x99 platform runs best with at least 4 ram sticks.
@@Roman00744 I bought it during 2014 and the crappy ram is due to availability constraints in my region during that time. Why bother to fix what isn't broken
This build reminds me of 2012 TotalBiscuit's PC and how "mad" he was in 2015 that a PC at a fraction of the cost (pretty much this but with 980Ti IIRC that Jesse or Crendor built) can keep up with his dual Titans PC. I kinda miss those days. It's incredible that in titles like Horizon, Steamdeck is like "nearly" there. Yes, it did run at like 35-40FPS on medium settings but that is kinda my point, if you told me 10 years ago that there will be a handheld with the power of high end PC (not top of the line like in the video but clearly an i7-4770k and a GTX 980 are near comparable to steamdeck), consuming like less than most common lightbulb (at the time LEDs were not still out, we have had incandescents and most common was a 60W, the high end PC would take about 280W with great PSU) available for like 500 USD, and to top it off made by Valve... I'd wonder about your mental faculties. Sadly VRAM hunger will kill Steamdeck eventually too. But hope that next gen of Steamdeck will have much larger RAM pool. 32-48GB with 8-12GB dedicated to VRAM would be cool IMO.
Man you are such a small time Tech UA-camr, you deserve more than 1000 subs at least. But in all seriousness though, hardware back then was very much ahead of its time in a way, while also becoming extremely dated soon after. I just can't believe Xeons still hold up as well as they do right now in some machines. That being said, I do think we are still pushing high framerates with high settings with new hardware (currently feel like we are going to hit the ceiling after this next gen of hardware,) and it is still shocking to see how well hardware from 10 years ago does compared to what we have now. But anyways, good stuff as always Iceberg!
i7 5930k ASUS X99 deluxe GTX 980 I am that guy who built it in 2014 for future proofing, only upgraded last year with a used R6700xt. had no issues with games till the upgrade, no regrets for the build, and hopefully will build a new machine later in the year.
my god CeX joke never gets old. Also for 2014 games suit can we have Battlefield4? It was optimised at that time and scales well on hardware today. Really curious to see how hardware that time pushed the limits that we breeze today
This brings back so many memories, I started learning about PCs when my dad bought me a one in 2013 and this exact PC is the one I'd be dreaming/drooling of having back then.
I do find it incredibly crazy that the 10 year old Zeon consumes about 5.5x the power of the 9700x but is about 1/2 to 1/3 the performance of the 9700x. We've come a long long way in just 10 years. It would've been crazy to tell someone in 2014 that in 10 years there will be a processor that will double or even triple the performance of the top of the line cpu that they dream of while consuming 1/5th of the power while costing 1/3 the price when adjusted for inflation. Then you tell that person that that processor you just mentioned was somehow considered a flop and watch their head explode.
Back then Intel was preparing it's own doom by slowing down with CPU's development and milking down it's customers with "4 cores 8 threads as a top of the line premium" policy and AMD was fighting for survival. But on the other hand GPU price to performance ratio was way higher and competition was much more equal in that space. Unfortunately then came first crypto boom, second crypto boom and then "AI" craze. So you would need to tell that somebody that to play comfortably on the new fancy higher resolution and refresh rate screens he would need to sell his kidney to afford a GPU.
In 2014 I built my first ground-up PC, with an FX-8350 and an R9 290. It was far from "ultimate," but is was fine for my needs at the time. I outgrew it, though, and in 2016 I replaced it with a 6850K and 980T twins. A rather massive upgrade. I still have both, and they still work.
I actually did a build like this myself. Granted it is more of early 2014 rather than just 2014 in general. Has a Xeon E5 1680 V2 and four GTX Titan Blacks. Sadly one of the Titans was on its way out so right now it only has 3 Titans. Still is a complete monster however if you can get all of the cards to work together.
still got my case, recently the front aux port went bad, you can take the case apart, use some tweezers to take the back panel off from the individual port and bend the pins back to make better contact with your headphones, or desolder and put in a new one, sold in large packs of 5 or 10 but cheap, 5 pin aux female green. absolutely god tier case and i hope we go back to cases costing at most 40 dollars, its insane to have a low budget build of 600 dollars take up 100 for the case as modern cases do. glass is a gimmick, was then is now (unless they finally figure out how to not use glass as an excuse for hilariously large margins, which they wont).
Absolute banger video as usual from you. Watching this on my somewhat old PC running X99 and a 1080 Ti, I never liked the screen tearing that seemed inherent to SLI so when I decided to spend on this computer I went for a seemingly futureproof CPU and a single powerful GPU. Part of me feels like we could find a more elegant solution for multi-GPU performance these days but I doubt manufacturers would want to invest in the R&D necessary to discover the plausibility of that.
I still have a working Haswell system that I use for troubleshooting Windows and graphics card. i7 4770 with Asus Z87 mobo. It still can play some new games at playable framerate even without FSR. Back then my card was only HD 7750 and then RX 470.
I used my 4790K for 8 years, it was an absolute beast, I got it overclocked to 4.8 ghz all core, I managed 4.9 but getting that stable and not show me blue screens every minute was next to impossible.
In 2014, there was underappreciated technology called Nvidia 3D Vision (used to this day) that is demanding as it needs 120fps for a steady 60fps per eye.
I'd love to see a video of games that were notorious for being very demanding even with the peak hardware of the time, but now are easy to crush with modern hardware.
just built my first "real" pc , with a 7600x and a 7900gre . I can play any game (cyberpunk , starfield etc.) at extreme framerates utilizing my high refreshrate monitor , so i couldnt be happier . I would go for a 4070 super for 50$ more but i wasnt going to use much raytracing or upscaling , so better performance was worth it for less money spent .
Another way you can use those dual GPUs to the max (kinda) is to use Lossless Scaling's framegen on the secondary GPU, if the game doesn't support SLI that is. Provided you have a high enough refresh rate monitor and a single GPU can render 1/2 or 1/3 of the monitor's refresh rate (let's say it's a 60hz monitor then the game ideally holds a stable 30 or 20fps), then you'll have a very good time gaming.
I always liked the 900-series Strix cards. Had a 960 as my first proper gaming GPU. Unfortunately i was woefully uneducated when it came to PC building by that time and got the 2GB variant. Still, got to game a good bit on it... Good times. This one's a cool configuration.
Game companies & graphics card manufacturing have come to an agreement to make all games minimum requirement 16gb. So people buy new GPUs the games can perfectly run in lower end GPUs but they have put some software that doesn't allows game to run smoothly.
I own a PC with a mismatch of parts from the later 2010's, Its on an MSI B-something with a Radeon RX480 8GB OC to 1400MHz, Ryzen 7 2700x, 32 GB of RAM. It still hangs in new titles without bumping below normal settings. ive never been able to touch those framerates in GTA5 for some reason though
The fact that I have better PC but nothing close to the history and nostalgia of this PC. A PC that could shock any PC enthusiast to their knees a true marvel... of course as expected from Ice
Me with still using i5-4690k (OC'd to 4.5Ghz), Asus Z97-A Mobo, 16Gb DDR3 and GTX 1070 (upgraded when fans died with my gtx 960) and Fractal Design Define r4.
despite its issues, the pc did what it was supposed to do, remained a capable gaming machine for a decade. "Future proofing" just meant you were speccing the system to be able to handle whatever the next decade could throw at it and still provide a playable gaming experience, which it did just that. It's likely more beneficial to build a mid range system every 5 years though. Personally, I like to build my systems with some headroom for upgrades a few years down the road, so I either aim for an early entry into a new platform with a good mid-high end gpu, or I'll go for a really good performing cpu on a platform that just reached end of life (5800X3D for example) and pair it with a budget gpu. Especially if I'm building a system for a customer, I want to make sure that when it does come time for some upgrades, they don't require a full rebuild and can get away with just a part swap or two.
Fallout 4's frame rate cap is tied to the refresh rate of your monitor; so 144fps is possible on a 144hz monitor without breaking the physics. But you can disable v-sync on the ini file, which brings those physics problems back.
Next year in June i hit the grand old age of 55 and I will be taking partial retirement. I will be purchasing the parts to build the highest end pc thats realistic at the time (hoping the Ryzen 9000 series X3d is out by then) and im going to run that pc for 10 years without upgrades testing the pc on latest games and feeding back on whats working out and whats not. I will have a 4K high refresh rate 27" monitopr and a 1080 high refresh 27" so that early in the experiment I can run on the 4K and after a few years i can migrate to the 1080 to ease some of the gpu ptressures. At age 65 i take full retirement and am looking forward to seeing how useable the pc still is then.
I still use my HAF 912 as my main gaming rig. It housed everything from my Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition to my current Ryzen 3700x. Yes, that case is large enough for the RTX 4080 Founder's Edition. Perhaps that is the most futureproof thing that this computer has. I've since added a 5-1/4" unit that gives me usb 3.2 and usb-c front panel connections and 3-1/2" card reader. The case is so large that it could comfortably fit 2 RTX 4090's if you so wished. It is a case ahead of its time if you don't like rgb or tempered glass side panels.
Great results!! I think it holds up fairly well... Despite how beastly it is right now, for some reason I doubt the 4090 will hold up as well to games in 2034. We'll see.
I had a dream last night that I had a HEDT pc, but had lost 1 of 8 DIMMs and was trying to figure out how to get quad channel memory to work with 7 sticks of ram
Bult my first pc in early 2017 (i think) Came from a ps4, and being green with envy at all the cool skyrim and fallout mods. I built a 7700k 1070 rig. It was a magical experience. Oh, and my first motherboard was a dud lol
I bought what was a high end system early 2014 (4790K and GTX 780) and it wasn't long before the 780 fell of a cliff in performance. Kepler driver support was officially dead in 2021, but already in around 2017-2018 it lost a lot of performane compared to 980/970. It seems Maxwell is one of the best generation ever released (even tho people praise Pascal more)
I came here to see modern games, idk why you only tested three of them. However it still seems to be pretty capable of 720p 30fps in new games, so that's very impressive to me for a 10 year old system
Had fantastic longevity. Of all the Graphics cards I've owned, I had the GTX 980 as my main gaming GPU the longest; July 2016 to July 2020, 4 years to the month. These are the lifespans of all my other graphics cards: Radeon 7500LE: 2002?-2004? GeForce 6200: 2004?- March 2009 (this may have lasted longer but have no idea when I got it) GeForce 7950 GX2: March 2009-January 2011 GeForce GTX 460: January 2011-January 2014 GeForce GTX 760: January 2014-January 2016 GeForce GTX 970: January 2016-July 2016 GeForce GTX 980: July 2016-July 2020 GeForce GTX 980ti: July 2020-November 2021 GeForce GTX 1080ti: November 2021-February 2023 GeForce RTX 3080: February 2023-present
I worked at Microcenter at this time. I got my 5930k From intels Retail Edge program. Ran Dual 970s but that was my first "clean build" i still miss SLi. Two cards just looked cooler.
Back in 2014 my family had a Pentium Dual Core E2160, Intel GMA 3100, 2GB of DDR2 RAM and a 20GB HDD, which lasted 8 years from 2008 to 2016. Now my PC RAM is higher than that HDD lol.
Enjoyed the video a lot, just wanted to point out that Fallout 4 came out in 2015 tho. I did watch the video with sound on, just not sure if you actually thought the game came out in 2017 or if it was just you saying "screw it, couldn't find a 2017 game so here's Fallout 4" haha
My Dad's PC still has a 4790k and a GTX 970. It runs good for the most part but I'm looking to upgrade it at some point. He doesn't want to reinstall Windows though so that's a challenge.
Ah to be ignorant in the past........was bad cause I was dumb as hell back then when it comes to learning in general. Still do but better now. So good thing I decided to build one recently
I'm still enjoying SLi on my 1070s, the VRAM limits kill these older cards and for whatever reason Pascal seems to be the only card to handle API level SLi support really well, Doom 2016 is one of my best scaling games, i can go for fluid 1080 Ultra and hit the high 100s or 4K/50 with my 4930K OC'd, these werent as large on maxwell or Keplar, especially in the frametimes.for whatever reason they don't wake up as easily and hassle free but i can still make it work, albeit less titles. (Using RTSS to cap to 60/75 of the older monitors irons out the frametime issues personally) DX12 is the nail in the coffin aswell as vulkan, so long as you are on pascal, scaling is fantastic and i enjoy 3060 performance when im playing DX11 games which is a high majority of my library as the shelf life of games has increased, games like Destiny 2 or Warframe, Killing Floor 2 to name the favourites are hitting double digits on their shelf life yet run just fine. The killers of SLi are ones that move to DX12 only modes with Legacy passthroughs now broken, War thunder and Dead by Daylight as such examples that don't enjoy 2 cards anymore which is a big shame as they were amongst the best to scale. While it is dead and Nvlink Turing cards break older SLi games to support the few DX12 ones, there isn't much to go off of anymore. This rig will soon be semi retired to its golden era of the 20-teens as a simulation rig for Project cars 2, Dirt Rally etc, much like the 5Ghz 4820K and Dual 780Ti rig for the early 20-teens, but they will still continue to run those just fine and give a glimpse into just how powerful (and power hungry..320W 780tis *cough*) SLi is.
I still own a 2014 gaming PC. It's a 3770K with a Radeon HD 7870. It's now inside an arcade cabinet running arcade games and other emulation.
Great use for it
Nice
Proper application
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You can add a 1050ti or beyond GPU for it
I still would want to own this PC :)
Yeah pretty good pc still, would sell one 980 or make another rig out of it 😅
Also mine, even i'm getting a laptop which faster than this
I haven't got any pcs
I'm probably going to build a Broadwell-E system at some point. A 2697V4 is the only way I'm gonna afford a workstation with lots of cores. Might do a dual CPU build and have a poor man's threadripper.
@@alderlake12th specs?
@@nickplays1748 Mine is R5-5600H/3060
The CPU outperform the Xeon but the 3060 is on pair
SLI 1080 ti build when?
Probably not worth it, no offense intended. Have a great day.
@@joelferguson625 Nah, the 1080 Ti still has its use as a multi GPU card. People still want to do productivity on these things. Considering the Titan V has no NVLink or SLI support, either 2x Titan Xps or 4x Titan Maxwells would be the fastest GTX config in 2024. However im not sure which one is faster than the other.
@@joelferguson625considering most still use 1080p and 1440p only getting widely adopted in the last year and a half 1080 Ti’s are still very relevant.
Those GPU’s are so good that they are still more then adequate for most people.
Might as well take it to the max and have a pair of 2080 Tis. Want to see TR 2013 running at 8k.
@@Lurch-Bot that would be cool but other than RTX there really isn’t that big of a difference between a 1080 TI verse 2080 TI
the fact a current $200-300 mid range GPU theoretically has the same power as two 980's put together
the fact that the mid range gpu now costs 200/300$
@@wearefromserbia9714more like 500-700 since the 4070 Super ti is technically considered a mid range card 😂.
But seriously I run an xfx RX 6800 Core with 16Gb Vram and I'm looking forward to playing single player games on my 70" 4k at around 60fps.
@@joelferguson625its more of a mid-high end, inbetween those two. the regular 4060-4060 ti are mid range and are still stupidly expensive. the 4070, 4070 super, 4070 ti, and 4070 ti super are some of the better priced cards in the 40 series. not good prices of course as its still overpriced, but compared to the other cards in the 40 series lineup, they gave better price-performance ratio. amd is better, but if you want RTX then the 4070 lineup is the better choice if you want a decent price-performance with rtx. 4080 super is alright, but i’d take the 4070 ti super instead. its like $200 cheaper and still has 16gb of vram.
Unfortunately, mid range performance has gotten more expensive - 7700xt is where mid-range current-gen starts and thats almost $400.
@@joelferguson625 the 4070 lineup is one of the best price-performance ratio cards in the 40 series if you want rtx performance. they’re still overpriced of course, but if you look at the other cards like the 4060 and 4080, they’re still the better priced lineup. 4070 ti super for $200 less to the 4080 super is really good, and it even has 16gb of vram considering the performance isnt far apart. while the 4070 lineup isnt priced well and is overprice for what they are and the competitors, they’re better priced compared to the other 40 series cards. this is just my take.
I had a SLI of 980, I bought the first on in 2014 (500€) and the second in 2016 (200€) with an 3770k (to upgrade from a 2500K). On supported games it was equivalent to a GTX1080.
SLI was a good idea to keep your hardware longer. I upgraded the platform in 2018 with an I5 9600K and an SLI compatible motherboard and I kept the 980's until 2020, when I did upgrade to an RTX 3070.
I think that multi-gpu tech is great even more now with VR, imagine having one GPU per eye, with good optimisation it can realy 2X the performance.
"with good optimization" yeah that's the issue. Optimizing your game or engine to use 2 GPUs at the same time is a pain in the ass and only a handful of people could really afford it.
@@Kumoiwaonly if VR gets enough users, which is another can of worms.
Ah yes another old PC Gaming Test. It is really interesting to see how old pc parts keeping up to the game nowadays.
Just got an used i7-7700K RX5700 and Z270 PC from used market for around $300 here and i really impressed by how the old PC part can keep up with some new games today.
Keep up the good work!
Not a 5700xt model?
@@superiorstonk1823 No. The XT model in used market here is still around $130-$150. I got my Non-XT model for just $100. The performance gap is also marginal so yeah i picking the Non-XT.
@@superiorstonk1823 AMD RX 5700 blower is good, I own one. Completely silent at idle, and does not heat too much at load
I have an i7 8700k. Would the RX5700 be a good pairing?
@@BREEZYM6015 Yes, that would be okay. RX5700 is still good with its 8GB VRAM
Still using an X99 setup. Really amazed on how an almost decade old platform can still deliver.
I7-5930k
MSI X99S Krait Edition
16GB DDR4 2133
RX Vega 56
the vega packs 8gb wich helps massively. is the best gpu you can buy now used under 50/60dls, especially if bios moded .
hope you OCed that CPU to at least 4.5ghz.
Why the crappy ram? You can get 32gb 8x4 3200mhz ram for 30-100$ depending where you buy and if it's new or used, I just bought 64gb 4x16 of used bdie on ebay for 110$. The x99 platform runs best with at least 4 ram sticks.
@@Roman00744 I bought it during 2014 and the crappy ram is due to availability constraints in my region during that time. Why bother to fix what isn't broken
Got my eye on a dual 2697v4 workstation. 72 threads. Quadro RTX 5000.
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This build reminds me of 2012 TotalBiscuit's PC and how "mad" he was in 2015 that a PC at a fraction of the cost (pretty much this but with 980Ti IIRC that Jesse or Crendor built) can keep up with his dual Titans PC. I kinda miss those days. It's incredible that in titles like Horizon, Steamdeck is like "nearly" there. Yes, it did run at like 35-40FPS on medium settings but that is kinda my point, if you told me 10 years ago that there will be a handheld with the power of high end PC (not top of the line like in the video but clearly an i7-4770k and a GTX 980 are near comparable to steamdeck), consuming like less than most common lightbulb (at the time LEDs were not still out, we have had incandescents and most common was a 60W, the high end PC would take about 280W with great PSU) available for like 500 USD, and to top it off made by Valve... I'd wonder about your mental faculties.
Sadly VRAM hunger will kill Steamdeck eventually too. But hope that next gen of Steamdeck will have much larger RAM pool. 32-48GB with 8-12GB dedicated to VRAM would be cool IMO.
Man you are such a small time Tech UA-camr, you deserve more than 1000 subs at least. But in all seriousness though, hardware back then was very much ahead of its time in a way, while also becoming extremely dated soon after. I just can't believe Xeons still hold up as well as they do right now in some machines. That being said, I do think we are still pushing high framerates with high settings with new hardware (currently feel like we are going to hit the ceiling after this next gen of hardware,) and it is still shocking to see how well hardware from 10 years ago does compared to what we have now. But anyways, good stuff as always Iceberg!
He has 66,000 subs. Unless you meant 100,000 subs.
In 2014 I had an i7-920, 12GB DDR3, GTX 660, 120GB SSD + 2TB and 500GB HDDs
i5 3570, Radeon R9 270X 2gb, 8GB DDR3, 2TB HDD, 120GB SSD
i7 5930k
ASUS X99 deluxe
GTX 980
I am that guy who built it in 2014 for future proofing, only upgraded last year with a used R6700xt.
had no issues with games till the upgrade, no regrets for the build, and hopefully will build a new machine later in the year.
my god CeX joke never gets old. Also for 2014 games suit can we have Battlefield4? It was optimised at that time and scales well on hardware today. Really curious to see how hardware that time pushed the limits that we breeze today
Gotta say, you've been cranking out some really high quality content, particularly over the past six months or so. Keep it up!
-and my PC's still somehow lower specced than this💀
for now homie... for now
its a used xeon 1660v3, you can build it for like 300 dollars with a chinese x99 mobo
Bruh I got a 2620 V3, don't tell me yours is somehow worse than mine
the GTX 980 is still strong- it's at least as fast as GTX 1060 and RX 580, which beats GTX 1650 and 780m
You're broke
This brings back so many memories, I started learning about PCs when my dad bought me a one in 2013 and this exact PC is the one I'd be dreaming/drooling of having back then.
Now this is the type of cex machine video i want
I do find it incredibly crazy that the 10 year old Zeon consumes about 5.5x the power of the 9700x but is about 1/2 to 1/3 the performance of the 9700x. We've come a long long way in just 10 years. It would've been crazy to tell someone in 2014 that in 10 years there will be a processor that will double or even triple the performance of the top of the line cpu that they dream of while consuming 1/5th of the power while costing 1/3 the price when adjusted for inflation. Then you tell that person that that processor you just mentioned was somehow considered a flop and watch their head explode.
Then you tell them about 7800x3d and 9800xd3
Back then Intel was preparing it's own doom by slowing down with CPU's development and milking down it's customers with "4 cores 8 threads as a top of the line premium" policy and AMD was fighting for survival. But on the other hand GPU price to performance ratio was way higher and competition was much more equal in that space. Unfortunately then came first crypto boom, second crypto boom and then "AI" craze. So you would need to tell that somebody that to play comfortably on the new fancy higher resolution and refresh rate screens he would need to sell his kidney to afford a GPU.
This is my absolute favourite type of video on the internet, old flagship PCs in the modern day. Thanks Iceberg!
In 2014 I built my first ground-up PC, with an FX-8350 and an R9 290. It was far from "ultimate," but is was fine for my needs at the time. I outgrew it, though, and in 2016 I replaced it with a 6850K and 980T twins. A rather massive upgrade. I still have both, and they still work.
Should've put a epilepsy warning for when the MSI afterburner overlay was having a seizure
From 2014? Goodness this is genuinely amazing seeing how well it kept up! If I had this beast I would have still been happy! Absolutely no complaint.
I actually did a build like this myself. Granted it is more of early 2014 rather than just 2014 in general. Has a Xeon E5 1680 V2 and four GTX Titan Blacks. Sadly one of the Titans was on its way out so right now it only has 3 Titans. Still is a complete monster however if you can get all of the cards to work together.
still got my case, recently the front aux port went bad, you can take the case apart, use some tweezers to take the back panel off from the individual port and bend the pins back to make better contact with your headphones, or desolder and put in a new one, sold in large packs of 5 or 10 but cheap, 5 pin aux female green.
absolutely god tier case and i hope we go back to cases costing at most 40 dollars, its insane to have a low budget build of 600 dollars take up 100 for the case as modern cases do.
glass is a gimmick, was then is now (unless they finally figure out how to not use glass as an excuse for hilariously large margins, which they wont).
Absolute banger video as usual from you. Watching this on my somewhat old PC running X99 and a 1080 Ti, I never liked the screen tearing that seemed inherent to SLI so when I decided to spend on this computer I went for a seemingly futureproof CPU and a single powerful GPU. Part of me feels like we could find a more elegant solution for multi-GPU performance these days but I doubt manufacturers would want to invest in the R&D necessary to discover the plausibility of that.
No MGSV? That thing looked gorgeous and ran like a dream, even with the 970 that I had at the time
I still have a working Haswell system that I use for troubleshooting Windows and graphics card. i7 4770 with Asus Z87 mobo. It still can play some new games at playable framerate even without FSR. Back then my card was only HD 7750 and then RX 470.
Still better than my PC.
I still can't get over that the intro sound is very similar to the Ford chime
A dream PC would have had the 290x which is more powerful, has more vram, doesn't require SLI, and also natively supports dx12 and async compute.
a dream pc would have a 4090 ti
Loving the X99 content! Im still on X79 with a 1680v2.
For me i built dream pc 2017. I have an i9 7920x at 5ghz with 128gbs of ram and 2 vega 64 engineering samples.
good
Is it bad that I can’t understand if he is joking or not
@@Da-money_guy its a real system. I made some yt shorts on this system minus the vega 64 engineering samples.
How did you get 7920x to 5ghz without melting?
@@LawrenceTimme 420mm aio. Pulls around 380 watts but scores 22k in R23.
This is the content I look for when I’ve got my food ready
my 2014 build used the 4790K with a gtx 970. shit was beautiful. it serves as my home server now
I used my 4790K for 8 years, it was an absolute beast, I got it overclocked to 4.8 ghz all core, I managed 4.9 but getting that stable and not show me blue screens every minute was next to impossible.
Please add more GPUs! we need four for the ultimate PC. Enjoying the content.
In 2014, there was underappreciated technology called Nvidia 3D Vision (used to this day) that is demanding as it needs 120fps for a steady 60fps per eye.
Somehow when i think of a powerful beast PC this comes to mind
I had an SLI of Gtx 970’s and had exactly the same issues as you mentioned in the video
Great video, had my coffee and enjoyed another one of your videos! Thanks again!
I'd love to see a video of games that were notorious for being very demanding even with the peak hardware of the time, but now are easy to crush with modern hardware.
love these videos. would be cool to see X79 vids whenever possible :)
just built my first "real" pc , with a 7600x and a 7900gre . I can play any game (cyberpunk , starfield etc.) at extreme framerates utilizing my high refreshrate monitor , so i couldnt be happier . I would go for a 4070 super for 50$ more but i wasnt going to use much raytracing or upscaling , so better performance was worth it for less money spent .
I still rock that case, its very spacious and good at cooling. Only downside is it collects a lot of dust.
That cooler master case brings back memories
wow i got to fully upgrade my i7 with my x99 deluxe ii im impressed
I'm running a fx 8350 and a 980 ti extreme waterforce from gigabyte, all mounted in a crosshair v formula z.
Best gaming pc era.
Holy crap. I've got a very similar pc. Its an old workstation with 2 Intel XEON e5-2690 V3s. 128gb of ddr3 ram, and 1gb ssd.
1 gb ssd? 💀
@@hubzertzert oh shoot. 1 tb
Another way you can use those dual GPUs to the max (kinda) is to use Lossless Scaling's framegen on the secondary GPU, if the game doesn't support SLI that is. Provided you have a high enough refresh rate monitor and a single GPU can render 1/2 or 1/3 of the monitor's refresh rate (let's say it's a 60hz monitor then the game ideally holds a stable 30 or 20fps), then you'll have a very good time gaming.
I always liked the 900-series Strix cards. Had a 960 as my first proper gaming GPU. Unfortunately i was woefully uneducated when it came to PC building by that time and got the 2GB variant. Still, got to game a good bit on it...
Good times. This one's a cool configuration.
I love videos like this. Good job, dude 👍🏻
Makes you realize how little power those components drew at the time even though they were top of the line.
Nice! I was just watching your other old pc rigs videos!!
I had 2 radeon 270x in crossfire back then. Ran pretty well in games that supported it.
Game companies & graphics card manufacturing have come to an agreement to make all games minimum requirement 16gb. So people buy new GPUs the games can perfectly run in lower end GPUs but they have put some software that doesn't allows game to run smoothly.
Humor is absolutely on point with this channel
Entertaining and informative quality is great
Always a good day when iceberg Posts
I have all these parts somewhere haha.
Amazing video as usual.
Still using my 5960x for my backup rig. Its held up rather well for some tasks.
Interesting look back Iceberg, Maybe a "What if", 1080ti upgrade to the Ultimate Gaming PC? Thanks for video. Cheers!
I think 5 years is a good point to start changing key components such the cpu or gpu
I own a PC with a mismatch of parts from the later 2010's, Its on an MSI B-something with a Radeon RX480 8GB OC to 1400MHz, Ryzen 7 2700x, 32 GB of RAM. It still hangs in new titles without bumping below normal settings. ive never been able to touch those framerates in GTA5 for some reason though
The fact that I have better PC but nothing close to the history and nostalgia of this PC. A PC that could shock any PC enthusiast to their knees a true marvel... of course as expected from Ice
I was very wrong this PC outperforms my 5 5600X paired with rx5700 build by a far shot.. My oh my I am stunned..
Replace that SLI setup with an RTX 3070 and that thing will still game like a madman.
Heck, a single 980Ti would probably do better
Love x99. Just upgraded from it this week. Amazing how it still can perform nowadays but sadly it was time
Me with still using i5-4690k (OC'd to 4.5Ghz), Asus Z97-A Mobo, 16Gb DDR3 and GTX 1070 (upgraded when fans died with my gtx 960) and Fractal Design Define r4.
despite its issues, the pc did what it was supposed to do, remained a capable gaming machine for a decade. "Future proofing" just meant you were speccing the system to be able to handle whatever the next decade could throw at it and still provide a playable gaming experience, which it did just that. It's likely more beneficial to build a mid range system every 5 years though. Personally, I like to build my systems with some headroom for upgrades a few years down the road, so I either aim for an early entry into a new platform with a good mid-high end gpu, or I'll go for a really good performing cpu on a platform that just reached end of life (5800X3D for example) and pair it with a budget gpu. Especially if I'm building a system for a customer, I want to make sure that when it does come time for some upgrades, they don't require a full rebuild and can get away with just a part swap or two.
Fallout 4's frame rate cap is tied to the refresh rate of your monitor; so 144fps is possible on a 144hz monitor without breaking the physics.
But you can disable v-sync on the ini file, which brings those physics problems back.
Another great video from Mr.Berg.
Next year in June i hit the grand old age of 55 and I will be taking partial retirement. I will be purchasing the parts to build the highest end pc thats realistic at the time (hoping the Ryzen 9000 series X3d is out by then) and im going to run that pc for 10 years without upgrades testing the pc on latest games and feeding back on whats working out and whats not. I will have a 4K high refresh rate 27" monitopr and a 1080 high refresh 27" so that early in the experiment I can run on the 4K and after a few years i can migrate to the 1080 to ease some of the gpu ptressures. At age 65 i take full retirement and am looking forward to seeing how useable the pc still is then.
I still use my HAF 912 as my main gaming rig. It housed everything from my Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition to my current Ryzen 3700x. Yes, that case is large enough for the RTX 4080 Founder's Edition. Perhaps that is the most futureproof thing that this computer has. I've since added a 5-1/4" unit that gives me usb 3.2 and usb-c front panel connections and 3-1/2" card reader. The case is so large that it could comfortably fit 2 RTX 4090's if you so wished. It is a case ahead of its time if you don't like rgb or tempered glass side panels.
Awesome video my man! Makes me wonder how the 980ti would have held up?
A blast from the past indeed. I rmbr how buggy Xeon proc was for gaming since its meant for server usage.
then you must be extremely stupid because that was never the case, the CPUs are identical
Great results!! I think it holds up fairly well...
Despite how beastly it is right now, for some reason I doubt the 4090 will hold up as well to games in 2034. We'll see.
Sort of reminds me of the Large Pixel Collider build that PC Gamer did 10 years ago. That monolith was my envy back in high school.
I had a dream last night that I had a HEDT pc, but had lost 1 of 8 DIMMs and was trying to figure out how to get quad channel memory to work with 7 sticks of ram
For Fallout 4 there's a mod called High fps physics fix, it's not perfect but you should have a mostly playable experience. You should check it out.
Bult my first pc in early 2017 (i think) Came from a ps4, and being green with envy at all the cool skyrim and fallout mods. I built a 7700k 1070 rig. It was a magical experience. Oh, and my first motherboard was a dud lol
such a well made video it was quite interesting
Let’s give it up for the real star of the show the Coolermaster HAF
Looking forward to your The Ultimate Gaming PC (of 2024)
See ya in 10 years 🫡
I bought what was a high end system early 2014 (4790K and GTX 780) and it wasn't long before the 780 fell of a cliff in performance. Kepler driver support was officially dead in 2021, but already in around 2017-2018 it lost a lot of performane compared to 980/970. It seems Maxwell is one of the best generation ever released (even tho people praise Pascal more)
Still rocking with my GTX 980 and i7-4790k
I came here to see modern games, idk why you only tested three of them. However it still seems to be pretty capable of 720p 30fps in new games, so that's very impressive to me for a 10 year old system
That machine is a timeless beast. Even 10 years old, if you read the specs and look at it you just thing BEAST.
Old School baby
Good video. A single gtx 980ti would probably be the way to go.
And trust me, the got some top-notch gear you're gonna want!
love the subtle ASUS roast!
Had fantastic longevity. Of all the Graphics cards I've owned, I had the GTX 980 as my main gaming GPU the longest; July 2016 to July 2020, 4 years to the month.
These are the lifespans of all my other graphics cards:
Radeon 7500LE: 2002?-2004?
GeForce 6200: 2004?- March 2009 (this may have lasted longer but have no idea when I got it)
GeForce 7950 GX2: March 2009-January 2011
GeForce GTX 460: January 2011-January 2014
GeForce GTX 760: January 2014-January 2016
GeForce GTX 970: January 2016-July 2016
GeForce GTX 980: July 2016-July 2020
GeForce GTX 980ti: July 2020-November 2021
GeForce GTX 1080ti: November 2021-February 2023
GeForce RTX 3080: February 2023-present
I worked at Microcenter at this time. I got my 5930k From intels Retail Edge program. Ran Dual 970s but that was my first "clean build" i still miss SLi. Two cards just looked cooler.
Hmm, mines in the loft except it was the 5960x and 2X R9 Fury`s, toying with the idea of kind of retro resurrection.
Back in 2014 my family had a Pentium Dual Core E2160, Intel GMA 3100, 2GB of DDR2 RAM and a 20GB HDD, which lasted 8 years from 2008 to 2016. Now my PC RAM is higher than that HDD lol.
Enjoyed the video a lot, just wanted to point out that Fallout 4 came out in 2015 tho. I did watch the video with sound on, just not sure if you actually thought the game came out in 2017 or if it was just you saying "screw it, couldn't find a 2017 game so here's Fallout 4" haha
My Dad's PC still has a 4790k and a GTX 970. It runs good for the most part but I'm looking to upgrade it at some point. He doesn't want to reinstall Windows though so that's a challenge.
DX12 and Vulkan both have multi GPU support, but it has to be enabled by devs.
this is the exact case i use even today!!
my old build was an x99 build. Asus rampage V edition 10 32gb of ram paired to a i7-5960x and 1080ti
Ah to be ignorant in the past........was bad cause I was dumb as hell back then when it comes to learning in general. Still do but better now. So good thing I decided to build one recently
I'm still enjoying SLi on my 1070s, the VRAM limits kill these older cards and for whatever reason Pascal seems to be the only card to handle API level SLi support really well, Doom 2016 is one of my best scaling games, i can go for fluid 1080 Ultra and hit the high 100s or 4K/50 with my 4930K OC'd, these werent as large on maxwell or Keplar, especially in the frametimes.for whatever reason they don't wake up as easily and hassle free but i can still make it work, albeit less titles. (Using RTSS to cap to 60/75 of the older monitors irons out the frametime issues personally) DX12 is the nail in the coffin aswell as vulkan, so long as you are on pascal, scaling is fantastic and i enjoy 3060 performance when im playing DX11 games which is a high majority of my library as the shelf life of games has increased, games like Destiny 2 or Warframe, Killing Floor 2 to name the favourites are hitting double digits on their shelf life yet run just fine. The killers of SLi are ones that move to DX12 only modes with Legacy passthroughs now broken, War thunder and Dead by Daylight as such examples that don't enjoy 2 cards anymore which is a big shame as they were amongst the best to scale. While it is dead and Nvlink Turing cards break older SLi games to support the few DX12 ones, there isn't much to go off of anymore. This rig will soon be semi retired to its golden era of the 20-teens as a simulation rig for Project cars 2, Dirt Rally etc, much like the 5Ghz 4820K and Dual 780Ti rig for the early 20-teens, but they will still continue to run those just fine and give a glimpse into just how powerful (and power hungry..320W 780tis *cough*) SLi is.