It's the first generation of the aluminum body so expect some issues. Ford will learn from their mistakes and improve the generation. The main thing is Ford trucks continue to have one of the best frames out there and continue to be at the top in safety ratings.
I really doubt this, driving in heavy rain would yield a similar if not higher force from larger rain droplets also any rocks kicked up by the tires would destroy the body if this were true. What you are showing says one thing, but logically unless your truck is garage kept and has never seen the elements its impossible for the body to not essentially be totaled unless these were 1 in a million dents that hit defective parts of the body. A literal aluminum soda can would deform less from an acorn. That looks more like someone shot it with a Pellet gun or a paintball gun or something. The larger dent, looks an awfully a lot like a golf ball hit it. For metal that is really soft and malleable, the truck should just torque in half if you took a turn at speeds exceeding 30mph roughly speaking. Even if the frame doesn't warp, the body panels still have stuff inside them and they would deform under such force. And I really doubt that's the only time an acorn or anything has ever fallen into your vehicle. And who drives a vehicle like that and assumes they won't instantly die in even a minor car wreck and keeps the vehicle? The physics of what you are saying don't add up.
Doubt what you want… I saw both events happen and I don’t have the time or even the slightest desire to make this stuff up. Did you know some people still believe the earth is flat… crazy huh? Thanks for watching
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I didn't say it was impossible, it's just so incredibly unlikely. Also LOL @ equating the earth being flat to a an acorn whose terminal velocity cannot exceed 13.6m/s or around 30mph denting a truck like that. If anything that comparison suites your side of the story more fairly. Doing the math to calculate the force generated by a 5.5 gram acorn traveling at terminal velocity, we get 0.0748 Newtons of force over a cross section of 16cm^2 for a large acorn. That equates to 46.75 Pascals of force at most, exerted on the truck upon impact. And to show how ridiculous this claim is, the air pressure at sea level is 101,325 Pascals of force for standard atmospheric pressure. Even converting that 101,325 Pascals/Meter to the size of the acorn being 16cm^2 we get 162.12 Pascals of force existing on everything at sea level just from the air pressure. To put it in laymens terms, that standard air pressure is roughly 14.69 PSI, the acorn exerted no more than 1.08^-5 PSI on the truck upon impact. That exponent is also to the negative 5, not 5. Its literally physically impossible for a acorn to have done that unless the body of the truck was nearly as thin as an aluminum soda can. Try all you want to argue this, but if you had that happen to that truck, going 60mph in it should cause the body to literally deform and be torn apart from the frame/body of the truck. The Aluminum F Series Trucks by Ford are made with 6000 series aluminum, this type of aluminum has a Tensile strength of 18-58 KSI. 1 KSI is equivalent to 6,894,757.3 Newtons per square meter, meaning that the amount of KSI exerted on the truck by the acorn was only 1.09^-8 KSI. That's right, yet again a negative exponent. And the funny thing is, that is 1 KSI, not the 18 to 58 figure given for 6000 series aluminum. And I am not saying its entirely impossible despite all this. There could be defects in your vehicle, or pre existing damage that significantly weakened the structural integrity of the area that was hit by these falling objects. But to say that this is a serious problem Ford must address when the physics at play show what they do is pretty fallacious to say the least. Very similar math applies for the larger dent, I can't really try to verify the physics of you backing up into your Honda. With out you physically backing up the truck to the Honda and having both vehicles in the exact same spot it happened can't really work out how that happened. I know that a 10th gen F150 Tailgate with no lifts and stock everything will rest higher than the bumper of an accord and most newer Super Duties are significantly higher up than an older truck like that by at least 6 inches. Yes it was on a hill, and I can see a tailgate bending a little bit with a 7,000+ pound truck pushing it into a 3,000lb object. But that at worst was simply poor luck and lack of keeping the tailgate up. However, the acorn and tree nut things are beyond the physics of this world apparently. Anyways, have a good day and enjoy your self advertised death machine that you have kept all this time despite it's proclaimed defects and complete lack of class action lawsuits over this body style by your fellow super duty owners in multiple years for effectively selling people 8000lbs soda cans that will accelerate to 60mph in less than 10 seconds towing 15,000 - 20,000lb trailers up the side of a mountain, but yes an acorn will do that type of damage to one right off the factory line. And totally its not like I have absolutely never witnessed people park their aluminum trucks up under trees and have acorns falling on them all the time with literally no damage after possibly thousands of acorns falling on them.
@@yungnachty4474 the earth statement was actually just a generic statement and one I find amazingly incredible people believe that it is true. From the sounds of it you are an engineer or equivalent. I have worked in an industrial for close to 20 years now and have had many projects with engineers many of which I’m very close friends with. With that experience I know that not everything from “the book” makes sense in the “real world”. In this case I saw an acorn literally fall from the tree and strike my trucks hood… 🤷🏻♂️ Science may say it’s not possible but it did occur. I wish it wasn’t the case because the dent annoys the crap out of me as well as my tailgate. Lastly, I don’t get joy out of arguing, I mean it gets us no where. I see your perspective, and I respect it but we are going to have to agree to disagree and that’s ok. I’m not mad; I needed a refresher on physics. Thank you for the feedback!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 That's a good guess. And yes I am aware the real world can produce puzzling phenomena. I did say, it is technically possible. Per the principle of parsimony, more commonly known as Occam's Razor. It is most likely there is a defect at least surrounding those area's of impact for items so small, possessing so little force to create such an exaggerated outcome considering the physics involved. It would annoy me as well considering aluminum is more expensive to fix and the complexity of the body panels on modern vehicles means you can't simply hammer out a dent or deformation like that.
With inflation and our current climate I think all manufacturers are looking for ways to cut costs for them and the consumers. Cheaper parts should mean cheaper prices… should…
Military grade aluminum 🤔 aluminum is still aluminum. I always wonder what they really mean when they call it that. I think they say it to decrease your anxiety when buying an aluminum truck 😄 But I love ford trucks so I still bought one too😆
I concur on why Ford most likely went the “military grade” route. I’m also a pretty big fan of Fords. I think they make some of the best trucks! Thanks for watching and for taking time to comment.
I’ve already made a video for you showing the car on a slight hill. I have nothing more to prove. Don’t believe me carry on. I’ll sleep fine tonight because I am 100 percent transparent on this channel.
No need to explain anything… you will have trolls who are just negative about anything
Thank you for the support!
Get an old school steel body truck. Give up payload, and gas mileage and roll dog. Trade offs. It's what we all deal with.
I like the way you think! 🤘🏻
It's the first generation of the aluminum body so expect some issues. Ford will learn from their mistakes and improve the generation. The main thing is Ford trucks continue to have one of the best frames out there and continue to be at the top in safety ratings.
Correct! Everyone is starting to use boxed framing now… ford has solid frames! I still love my Ford!
I really doubt this, driving in heavy rain would yield a similar if not higher force from larger rain droplets also any rocks kicked up by the tires would destroy the body if this were true.
What you are showing says one thing, but logically unless your truck is garage kept and has never seen the elements its impossible for the body to not essentially be totaled unless these were 1 in a million dents that hit defective parts of the body.
A literal aluminum soda can would deform less from an acorn. That looks more like someone shot it with a Pellet gun or a paintball gun or something.
The larger dent, looks an awfully a lot like a golf ball hit it. For metal that is really soft and malleable, the truck should just torque in half if you took a turn at speeds exceeding 30mph roughly speaking. Even if the frame doesn't warp, the body panels still have stuff inside them and they would deform under such force.
And I really doubt that's the only time an acorn or anything has ever fallen into your vehicle.
And who drives a vehicle like that and assumes they won't instantly die in even a minor car wreck and keeps the vehicle?
The physics of what you are saying don't add up.
Doubt what you want… I saw both events happen and I don’t have the time or even the slightest desire to make this stuff up. Did you know some people still believe the earth is flat… crazy huh? Thanks for watching
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I didn't say it was impossible, it's just so incredibly unlikely. Also LOL @ equating the earth being flat to a an acorn whose terminal velocity cannot exceed 13.6m/s or around 30mph denting a truck like that. If anything that comparison suites your side of the story more fairly.
Doing the math to calculate the force generated by a 5.5 gram acorn traveling at terminal velocity, we get 0.0748 Newtons of force over a cross section of 16cm^2 for a large acorn. That equates to 46.75 Pascals of force at most, exerted on the truck upon impact. And to show how ridiculous this claim is, the air pressure at sea level is 101,325 Pascals of force for standard atmospheric pressure. Even converting that 101,325 Pascals/Meter to the size of the acorn being 16cm^2 we get 162.12 Pascals of force existing on everything at sea level just from the air pressure.
To put it in laymens terms, that standard air pressure is roughly 14.69 PSI, the acorn exerted no more than 1.08^-5 PSI on the truck upon impact. That exponent is also to the negative 5, not 5. Its literally physically impossible for a acorn to have done that unless the body of the truck was nearly as thin as an aluminum soda can.
Try all you want to argue this, but if you had that happen to that truck, going 60mph in it should cause the body to literally deform and be torn apart from the frame/body of the truck.
The Aluminum F Series Trucks by Ford are made with 6000 series aluminum, this type of aluminum has a Tensile strength of 18-58 KSI.
1 KSI is equivalent to 6,894,757.3 Newtons per square meter, meaning that the amount of KSI exerted on the truck by the acorn was only 1.09^-8 KSI. That's right, yet again a negative exponent. And the funny thing is, that is 1 KSI, not the 18 to 58 figure given for 6000 series aluminum.
And I am not saying its entirely impossible despite all this. There could be defects in your vehicle, or pre existing damage that significantly weakened the structural integrity of the area that was hit by these falling objects. But to say that this is a serious problem Ford must address when the physics at play show what they do is pretty fallacious to say the least.
Very similar math applies for the larger dent, I can't really try to verify the physics of you backing up into your Honda. With out you physically backing up the truck to the Honda and having both vehicles in the exact same spot it happened can't really work out how that happened. I know that a 10th gen F150 Tailgate with no lifts and stock everything will rest higher than the bumper of an accord and most newer Super Duties are significantly higher up than an older truck like that by at least 6 inches. Yes it was on a hill, and I can see a tailgate bending a little bit with a 7,000+ pound truck pushing it into a 3,000lb object. But that at worst was simply poor luck and lack of keeping the tailgate up.
However, the acorn and tree nut things are beyond the physics of this world apparently.
Anyways, have a good day and enjoy your self advertised death machine that you have kept all this time despite it's proclaimed defects and complete lack of class action lawsuits over this body style by your fellow super duty owners in multiple years for effectively selling people 8000lbs soda cans that will accelerate to 60mph in less than 10 seconds towing 15,000 - 20,000lb trailers up the side of a mountain, but yes an acorn will do that type of damage to one right off the factory line.
And totally its not like I have absolutely never witnessed people park their aluminum trucks up under trees and have acorns falling on them all the time with literally no damage after possibly thousands of acorns falling on them.
@@yungnachty4474 the earth statement was actually just a generic statement and one I find amazingly incredible people believe that it is true.
From the sounds of it you are an engineer or equivalent. I have worked in an industrial for close to 20 years now and have had many projects with engineers many of which I’m very close friends with. With that experience I know that not everything from “the book” makes sense in the “real world”. In this case I saw an acorn literally fall from the tree and strike my trucks hood… 🤷🏻♂️
Science may say it’s not possible but it did occur. I wish it wasn’t the case because the dent annoys the crap out of me as well as my tailgate.
Lastly, I don’t get joy out of arguing, I mean it gets us no where. I see your perspective, and I respect it but we are going to have to agree to disagree and that’s ok. I’m not mad; I needed a refresher on physics. Thank you for the feedback!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 That's a good guess. And yes I am aware the real world can produce puzzling phenomena. I did say, it is technically possible. Per the principle of parsimony, more commonly known as Occam's Razor. It is most likely there is a defect at least surrounding those area's of impact for items so small, possessing so little force to create such an exaggerated outcome considering the physics involved. It would annoy me as well considering aluminum is more expensive to fix and the complexity of the body panels on modern vehicles means you can't simply hammer out a dent or deformation like that.
well if true then ford makes some cheap hoods and tail gates...
With inflation and our current climate I think all manufacturers are looking for ways to cut costs for them and the consumers. Cheaper parts should mean cheaper prices… should…
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 agree with the prices on these new truck. the consumers are paying way to much.
Military grade aluminum 🤔 aluminum is still aluminum.
I always wonder what they really mean when they call it that.
I think they say it to decrease your anxiety when buying an aluminum truck 😄
But I love ford trucks so I still bought one too😆
I concur on why Ford most likely went the “military grade” route. I’m also a pretty big fan of Fords. I think they make some of the best trucks! Thanks for watching and for taking time to comment.
Back the truck up with the tailgate down so we can see the height ???
I’ve already made a video for you showing the car on a slight hill. I have nothing more to prove. Don’t believe me carry on. I’ll sleep fine tonight because I am 100 percent transparent on this channel.
Could just imagine what would happen if it was hail!
I would image it would be pretty ugly…. I hope that my truck doesn’t see hail! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!